WEBVTT - Katherine Power

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, my love. It is La La Keent with Randal.

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<v Speaker 2>We are back for another exciting episode. First, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to just say, so nobody forgets we are going on tour.

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<v Speaker 3>That is right, That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it's up. Give them Lala with Randall is going

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<v Speaker 1>on tour. Give them Laalat with Randall Live. You can

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<v Speaker 1>get your tickets at give them live dot Com and.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go. You go to there. What say one

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<v Speaker 3>more time, just case saying to.

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<v Speaker 1>Hear you give them live dot com and.

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<v Speaker 3>Here are our cities that we are going to tell

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<v Speaker 3>you to not miss.

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<v Speaker 2>Our cities are November thirtieth, Dallas, Texas December one, Austin,

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<v Speaker 2>Texas December two, Houston December third, New Orleans, and then

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<v Speaker 2>we go from there to beautiful Fort Lauderdale on December fifth, Clearwater,

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<v Speaker 2>Florida December sixth, Orlando Home with Disney World on December eighth,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you're lucky to catch our season finale, go

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<v Speaker 2>to Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what's up. And just a quick reminder that DJ

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<v Speaker 1>James Kennedy will be with us for all of the

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<v Speaker 1>Texas dates, and Jackson, Brittany and hopefully Baby Cruz will

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<v Speaker 1>be with us throughout our Florida dates, and.

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<v Speaker 2>We have one new surprise to add to the tour,

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<v Speaker 2>which we will continue to add tour surprises.

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<v Speaker 3>We have the.

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelorette Hannah Godwin.

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<v Speaker 3>We have Hannah and her man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, we have we have Hannah Godwin and her dude, Dylan.

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<v Speaker 1>We're super hyped about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and by the way, Hannah Godwin will be joining

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<v Speaker 2>us for in Florida for the segments of get to

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<v Speaker 2>Know Your Partner, So they're going to try to oust

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<v Speaker 2>us with knowing each other. We're going to try to

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<v Speaker 2>ouse them and we're going to see what couple knows

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<v Speaker 2>each other better. But we're also gonna have guests from

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<v Speaker 2>the audience coming up participating as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's gonna be so much fun. It's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be super interactive. I'm trying to kick it with you, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't just want to like stand on a stage

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<v Speaker 1>and look at your faces. I really, I know you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go on tour if you.

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<v Speaker 3>If you can't tour with the people, well.

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<v Speaker 1>Because here's the thing, Rand, I'm gonna be real without

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<v Speaker 1>the people that come to the tour, without the people

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<v Speaker 1>that you know watch the show. I don't get to

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<v Speaker 1>like have the things that I have. So it's important

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<v Speaker 1>for me to get to like know the people that they.

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<v Speaker 3>Support your businesses, your brands, and by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>They support me as a human, like the amount of

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<v Speaker 1>people that reached out to me, like when I can

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<v Speaker 1>when we conceived Ocean, when my dad passed away. Like

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<v Speaker 1>these people are ride or die for La La, and

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<v Speaker 1>I really fucking love them.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta say, I can't relate to any of this support,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do have.

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<v Speaker 3>You know how many friends I have? I think by

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<v Speaker 3>the way I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was at one of the vander Pop restaurants recently

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<v Speaker 2>and I had over seven people come.

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<v Speaker 3>Up to me.

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<v Speaker 1>So why that you counted?

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<v Speaker 3>Don't show with me?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think I have twenty fans. Now I went

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<v Speaker 2>from four to nine and I think I have twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>So I contribute a little bit to your fan base.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. So today is super you guys. I

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<v Speaker 1>never get intimidated by anybody that we have on the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and I won't even lie. I've like broken out into

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<v Speaker 1>Colt sweats because we have Catherine Power.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and by the way, I'm a.

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<v Speaker 1>Good clot baby, give her a good.

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<v Speaker 2>Class, no, But I'm excited about Catherine because because this

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<v Speaker 2>is a special guest.

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<v Speaker 3>That we were very lucky to get.

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<v Speaker 2>Catherine is a power player in the entrepreneurial space. She

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<v Speaker 2>has built incredible brands. She's actually, believe it or not,

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<v Speaker 2>and Laala. People don't know this, but this is one

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<v Speaker 2>of Lala's biggest role models. Because as Lala is building

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<v Speaker 2>your as you're I'm talking about you here.

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<v Speaker 3>Not here, as you're building.

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<v Speaker 2>Your platforms, She's the kind of CEO and boss that

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<v Speaker 2>you want all of your brands to end up. And

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<v Speaker 2>she's had her businesses for a decade, some of them

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<v Speaker 2>some of them much newer. But she she's gonna tell

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<v Speaker 2>us all about it. But she's got incredible brands that

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<v Speaker 2>she's built from the grad up. And she also even

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<v Speaker 2>has a line company with superstar actress Cameron Diaz.

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<v Speaker 1>So no big deal, no big deal, let's start just

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<v Speaker 1>Cameron Diaz. I know it's really incredible. So before I

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<v Speaker 1>fully go into meltdown mode.

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently are you spilling tea right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I got to check out of this part.

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<v Speaker 1>So this troll who goes by the name of Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>Dodd decided to come out of her hole can come

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<v Speaker 1>for me.

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<v Speaker 3>But who is that? Who is Kelly Dodd? Because I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, I mean, because you know, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>reality that well. I know vander Pump.

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<v Speaker 1>She used to be on Real Housewives of Orange County. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>she got fired, and God what I would give to

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<v Speaker 1>have her on this podcast because I just want to know, like, like,

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<v Speaker 1>when you mess up rand and people like you have repercussions,

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<v Speaker 1>you learn from the behavior, right, Yeah, of course she doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have a question, and I want to know why.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, stop person, because I'm lost, because I don't really

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<v Speaker 2>know all the tea because you're spilling, So you want

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<v Speaker 2>to bring somebody on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>She'll never do it, but I would love it if

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<v Speaker 1>she was like, sure, but.

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<v Speaker 2>You're are you officially inviting this person on our podcast

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<v Speaker 2>that you have beef with?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have beef with her. She has beef with me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know why what?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>So it started with we had Nick Ritchie on a

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<v Speaker 1>couple weeks ago and she commented like that I'm an idiot, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and Nick Ritchie was like, I didn't know you had

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<v Speaker 1>beef with Kelly Dodge. She called you an idiot in

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<v Speaker 1>the comment section. I was like, really, I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>I had beef with her either, So like whatever, I

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<v Speaker 1>comment back and then I move on with my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Then she fucking which I was just sent this, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, and it happened a few weeks ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, how did I miss this? And then

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<v Speaker 1>I remembered that's right. I was working because I still

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<v Speaker 1>have a job. And she posted a picture of me

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<v Speaker 1>with Gallum from Lord of the Rings and granted, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I do see the resemblance between me and Gallum and

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<v Speaker 1>the photos she posted, but she said, does anyone else

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<v Speaker 1>see a resemblance? I would have clicked yes, because I

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<v Speaker 1>do this.

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<v Speaker 3>You see a resemblance between you and Gollam in the photo?

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<v Speaker 1>Like definitely, I would have clicked yes. But more people

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<v Speaker 1>clicked no. So she deleted it. But I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, what have I possibly said about her

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<v Speaker 1>that she would like be so upset at me?

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<v Speaker 3>So what did you say it upset her?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how I'm still recognized right she's.

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<v Speaker 2>Treating this article right now, Lalla, fireback. Oh no, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a whole thing between you two.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh. This started in October of twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait it did. That's news to me.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, that's something that she did. Okay, sorry, you

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<v Speaker 2>just fired back about Okay, so here's the thing. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me summarize this for people that don't know, because I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know you have a beef with this Kelly Dodd.

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<v Speaker 3>She came for you.

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<v Speaker 2>She posted a picture of Gullum. She said, do you

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<v Speaker 2>guys look blike that's that's little mean because Gullum's a monster,

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<v Speaker 2>so you're not a monster.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was more about the physical appearance.

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<v Speaker 3>But okay, so what so keep in mind on the

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<v Speaker 3>show or not? I want to know is it official?

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<v Speaker 3>Say it or not?

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly Dodd hit a bit up man, like I got

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<v Speaker 1>to pick your brain. You're a fascinating human to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know you have a lot of time on

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<v Speaker 1>your hands now, so please fucking be on my podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that was what you would call it, dig is it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I just wanted you to invite her. Come on, Well listen.

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<v Speaker 3>All I want to say is I don't know Kelly Dodd.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know any of this except what I just

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<v Speaker 2>saw on this column, which I consider not not nice.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the end of the day, you invite her

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<v Speaker 2>up here and maybe she'll join the podcast. And by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, do you think maybe you guys could be

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<v Speaker 2>friends after the podcast? Do you think you can make up?

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<v Speaker 2>Could I broke her up? Peace treaty between you two

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<v Speaker 2>on the podcast?

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<v Speaker 1>I think we would say, like we like she here's

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a beef with her at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, she has a beef with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm confused why I want I want to pick

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<v Speaker 1>her brain. I didn't know we had a beef.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, right, let me back up. So that's just

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<v Speaker 3>my she has.

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<v Speaker 2>A beef with you, You've now invited her on our podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>and I am hoping that through this peace treaty, you

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<v Speaker 2>guys could figure out And.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to know, like, because people asked me, how

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<v Speaker 1>did you feel about this? And I was like, when

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<v Speaker 1>you have people like Jennifer Lawrence call you and see

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<v Speaker 1>you next Tuesday, when other people come for you, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of trivial, like Kelly Dodd coming for me,

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<v Speaker 1>not that big of a deal. Like I've had the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest movie stars. I've had a lot of people come

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<v Speaker 1>for me, you know, and I've shaken that shit off.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is like whatever like, Kelly Dodd, please come

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<v Speaker 1>on my podcast. I want to take your brain so bad.

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<v Speaker 2>So by the way, So what I get from this

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<v Speaker 2>is I think Kelly will hear this, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>she's probably reasonable, and I think she'll take you up

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<v Speaker 2>on your offer. And I'm interested to see why it

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<v Speaker 2>even started for her and then you guys, can.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you what I think it was? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>remember when we were in Puerto Rico when we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking to Bronwyn and we were saying, like, because Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>Dodd was coming for Bronwin with her sobriety, do you

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<v Speaker 1>remember this? And we were like, you can't come for

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<v Speaker 1>someone who's like trying to get sober or is continuing

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<v Speaker 1>to be sober. That's the only thing I can think of.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, she'll be on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys will sort it out right here. I think

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<v Speaker 2>this is great. I think it's a nice platform for

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<v Speaker 2>you and her to get on.

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<v Speaker 1>This is my prediction. She won't do the podcast, but

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<v Speaker 1>after she hears this, she's going to come for me

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<v Speaker 1>on her Instagram. Okay, that's my prediction.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I tell you my prediction what my prediction is

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<v Speaker 2>she hears this podcast, she hears my voice or reason,

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<v Speaker 2>and I believe that she will accept her invitation because

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<v Speaker 2>she she probably has a reason for whatever it started.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you guys will talk and I think you

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<v Speaker 2>guys will be friends after That's my prediction. So let's

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<v Speaker 2>see you is right. I'm betting that Kelly Dot's going

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<v Speaker 2>to come on and be cool and talk to you,

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<v Speaker 2>and you guys are going to figure it out. Your

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<v Speaker 2>prediction is she's going to take it to the GRAM

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<v Speaker 2>and keep coming for you. Let's see next week what

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<v Speaker 2>the result is.

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<v Speaker 1>Either way, I'm thoroughly looking forward to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I want to tell you that I want to

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<v Speaker 2>get right into this first guest.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to give her all the time in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you both are are CEO bosses, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that you guys are gonna have a lot in common.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you've been excited as it gets about this,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm going to actually remain probably okay, pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>Quiet from my perspective. I'm trying to get to a

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<v Speaker 1>level where I can say that she and I have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot in common. I'm excited to really pick her brain.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not lost upon me that she has built

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<v Speaker 1>something that I dream about daily.

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<v Speaker 2>So I kind of say to that, I understand you're

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<v Speaker 2>giving her mad respect because she has been doing this

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<v Speaker 2>for over a decade and she's, you know, achieved major, major,

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<v Speaker 2>high level success. But but you also have achieved a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of success in a short three and a half

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<v Speaker 2>four year period, and don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Discredit that either.

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<v Speaker 1>But thank you, baby.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what, we're going to learn a shit

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<v Speaker 2>ton from Catherine that I feel.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. So we're going to take a short break

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<v Speaker 1>and we will be right back with Catherine Power. And

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<v Speaker 1>we are back. I'm so intimidated. Oh my gosh, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so giddy. Catherine. What's that babe?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, Hello, Hello, I'm so happy to be with you

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<v Speaker 5>guys today. I can't think of anything I'd rather do

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<v Speaker 5>after my lunch break on this Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we like to bring you happiness into Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>So before we start, we just have to acknowledge the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that Randall was so excited when you did a

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<v Speaker 1>podcast with Cameron Diaz and someone the guy asked you

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<v Speaker 1>who is your favorite house husband?

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<v Speaker 3>You could take it back now, don't worry, you can

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<v Speaker 3>take it.

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<v Speaker 4>Back my favorite.

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<v Speaker 5>You have brought such a great energy to that show

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm so happy that you finally, you know, stepped

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<v Speaker 5>on to it because you are It's true, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>so nice.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened was you know, for a long time, I

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<v Speaker 2>was you know, I come from the other side of

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<v Speaker 2>the camera, so definitely wasn't comfortable in any respect. And

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<v Speaker 2>after about three years they got really smart and they

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<v Speaker 2>went to Lala and said, but we're going to make

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<v Speaker 2>a part of your deal, so whether he likes it

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<v Speaker 2>or not, he's showing up.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, oh, whoa.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, we worked it out and it was very

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<v Speaker 2>minimal the first season, and because I was petrified I

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<v Speaker 2>know what was going to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I actually had like a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I was just I made.

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<v Speaker 2>The best of it and now and now they got

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<v Speaker 2>me in there like a lot, a lot more than

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I would ever be.

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<v Speaker 4>So I love it.

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<v Speaker 5>You're so likable, and I think it was good after

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<v Speaker 5>hearing for so many years all of these different opinions

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<v Speaker 5>of who you may or may not have been with,

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<v Speaker 5>Like to actually see this amazing guy and personality I

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<v Speaker 5>think is really good.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>And honestly, Lala had been telling me for years, She's

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<v Speaker 2>like baby, you don't understand. If you just do it,

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<v Speaker 2>then the myth and all the drama of what you

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<v Speaker 2>really are will go away. And I'm like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not who I am, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And ultimately, of course I I she puts a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of pressure, can't say no to laws.

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<v Speaker 3>So there you go. But thank you because it was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was really really that's a good thing because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you don't like, you don't take no for it.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't get to where you are by taking no

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<v Speaker 1>for an answer, right.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right. Yeah, no is just a you know, change

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<v Speaker 4>in horse.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>So will you tell everybody?

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<v Speaker 2>Because you know, I know what you do and who

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<v Speaker 2>you are and what you've accomplished. Can you just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of give us like how how it started, how it became,

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<v Speaker 2>what it is, and where it's going to go kind

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<v Speaker 2>of snapshot and then we can kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>get under the hood.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure.

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<v Speaker 5>So I am an entrepreneur and CEO mostly in the fashion,

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<v Speaker 5>beauty and now beverage space. So I created a brand

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<v Speaker 5>called who What Where about fifteen years ago. So who

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<v Speaker 5>What Where was kind of the first company to bring

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<v Speaker 5>fashion magazine sensibilities to the Internet and then make the

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<v Speaker 5>content shoppable. So we you know, grew this business to

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<v Speaker 5>what you know now reaches about twenty million women per

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<v Speaker 5>month and turn that into a clothing line as well.

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<v Speaker 5>So we launched an apparel collection back in twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 5>really trend forward, size, inclusive, affordable fashion that has been

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<v Speaker 5>you know, mainly distributed throughout Target across the US. And

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<v Speaker 5>now we're launching a new what We're collection actually on

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<v Speaker 5>our website on August fifteenth, so you'll be able to

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<v Speaker 5>shop unique pieces from the site. I also started a

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<v Speaker 5>skincare brand called Verst First is the cleanest and most

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<v Speaker 5>sustainable drug store skincare brand today, and that really came

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<v Speaker 5>out of, you know, information we were getting from the

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<v Speaker 5>who what We're audience, you know, women saying I live

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<v Speaker 5>two hours from a Saphora or you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 5>have enough disposable income to go buy you know, beauty

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<v Speaker 5>products at a department store.

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<v Speaker 4>But I want you know, cleaner.

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<v Speaker 5>Products, I want cooler products, I want more effective products.

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<v Speaker 5>And we saw that the majority of our customers were

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<v Speaker 5>still discovering all their beauty products and drug stores. So

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<v Speaker 5>when we looked at the drug store skincare Ale. We

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<v Speaker 5>saw that hadn't changed in about fifty years, and so

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<v Speaker 5>we developed this brand called First, which now is distributed

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<v Speaker 5>through about five thousand retailers. Everything's under twenty dollars an item,

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<v Speaker 5>and because we were able to launch at such scale,

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<v Speaker 5>it helped us really drive down the cost of the

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<v Speaker 5>formulations and drive up the quality. I also have a

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<v Speaker 5>makeup brand called Merit, which just launched in January that

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<v Speaker 5>sold at Sephora and direct to consumer. But that's a

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<v Speaker 5>luxury brand that's kind of all based around this concept

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<v Speaker 5>of minimalist beauty. And finally, I have Aveline, which is

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<v Speaker 5>my clean and organic wine brand that I yes that

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<v Speaker 5>I like me at least once a week I text

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<v Speaker 5>Cameron and say, I'm so happy we created this because

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<v Speaker 5>you know, it's like we needed it.

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<v Speaker 4>But Avuline I created.

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<v Speaker 5>A partnership with Cameron Diaz, who is one of my

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<v Speaker 5>really good friends. And you know, we saw that everything

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<v Speaker 5>in our lives has gotten healthier, it has gotten better

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<v Speaker 5>for us. And you know, we were sitting there drinking

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<v Speaker 5>a bottle of wine and we said to ourselves, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I wonder if there's any way to make wine better

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<v Speaker 5>for us? And when we really dug into the wine

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<v Speaker 5>making process and how most commercial wines are made.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it was really shocking to us just the.

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<v Speaker 5>Amount of additives that can be added throughout the wine

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<v Speaker 5>making process without any disclosure. Most of the wine is

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<v Speaker 5>not organic because there are just not a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>organic land here in the US. So aveline is wine

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<v Speaker 5>that's made from organic grapes with super low intervention, and

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<v Speaker 5>it's delicious. You know, we're very discerning wine drinkers, so

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<v Speaker 5>we went, you know, all over the world to find

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<v Speaker 5>the perfect wine making partners for each unique blend.

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<v Speaker 4>And that has been so fun.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, we launched during the pandemic and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>for better or worse, alcohol consumption has been up, so you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know that's good time and time.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, at least if you're you know, if somebody is drinking,

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<v Speaker 5>we're happy to give them, you know, a cleaner option.

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<v Speaker 3>That's great. Wow. So that's you're pretty pretty busy.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and all of your your brands that you

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<v Speaker 1>just spoke about, all of your lines I've obviously heard of.

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<v Speaker 1>I've tried them. Joy Lab is also yours.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, you know I've seen you wear Joy Lab girl.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all I wear. That's amazingmon, who is where it's at.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the cutest like ath leisure, workout apparel, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>fit is fantastic. I mean, you really just kill it

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<v Speaker 1>all around. So it's really a pleasure to have you

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<v Speaker 1>on this podcast. And you know, it's so relatable. When

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<v Speaker 1>when I started doing give Them La La Beauty, you

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<v Speaker 1>were saying with Verst, you know, there aren't many people

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<v Speaker 1>who can go out and spend hundreds of dollars on

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<v Speaker 1>their skincare. And I think the fact that you, before

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<v Speaker 1>anybody made skincare affordable and approachable is just brilliant.

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<v Speaker 3>That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>And the fact that it's everything's twenty dollars under in right,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like such a smart, smart move. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>especially like you said, fifty years, nothing's changed in these

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<v Speaker 2>drug stores and you found a way to come in

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<v Speaker 2>and bring an uplift you know, to it. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's a that's an anomaly that's not easy

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<v Speaker 3>to come up with. That place. Find your place such

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<v Speaker 3>a busy, busy space.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean that's what I like to do, is

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<v Speaker 5>I search for white space, you know, specifically in this

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<v Speaker 5>kind of millennial gen Z and you know merits even

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<v Speaker 5>like older millennial you know gen X, which I saw

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<v Speaker 5>as like a big opportunity, but I love you know,

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<v Speaker 5>finding the white space and then you know, creating a

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<v Speaker 5>brand a value proposition for the consumer based on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have a lot of partners in the other brands?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you the sole you know? Yeah, an owner.

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<v Speaker 4>I have a wonderful co founder in Who What Where?

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<v Speaker 5>Who I launched the business with fifteen years ago, Hillary Kerr.

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<v Speaker 4>I have amazing executive teams.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, That's how I'm able to do so many

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<v Speaker 5>things is that, you know, I have a president who's

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<v Speaker 5>been with me for nine years, a CFO, a CEO,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, all of these people who are just so

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<v Speaker 5>talented and really are executing on the day to day.

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<v Speaker 4>And then we bring in.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, different investors based on the you know, the knee,

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<v Speaker 5>the strategic need, the skill set, and so a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of different partners. I tend to work with the same

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<v Speaker 5>people over and over. It's probably like making a movie.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, you go with the.

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<v Speaker 5>Same you know, the same people over and over because

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<v Speaker 5>you just have your groove, you understand each other. And

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<v Speaker 5>so I've kind of built that little ecosystem in the

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<v Speaker 5>CpG world.

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<v Speaker 1>So when when you talk about all of these things

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<v Speaker 1>that you've created, do you feel like, because you said,

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<v Speaker 1>who what where has been around for quite some time?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that the market now is saturated when

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<v Speaker 1>people try to come in and start something, do you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of look at it and go, Okay, I respect

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<v Speaker 1>the hustle, but it's like, you know, we had it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say that what you did was easy,

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<v Speaker 1>let's not get that twisted. But do you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>with time, you know, anyone can create a brand, but

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<v Speaker 1>to make it a success is much harder than it was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, X amount of years ago.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I certainly think you can become a self

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<v Speaker 5>made expert now right without having to go to you know,

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<v Speaker 5>chemistry school or having been a makeup artist for example.

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<v Speaker 4>The world today allows you to do that.

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<v Speaker 5>It doesn't mean you could just wake up one day

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<v Speaker 5>and decide you want to do it with no passion

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<v Speaker 5>or interest or willingness to learn. I mean, when Cameron

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<v Speaker 5>and I wanted to make a wine brand, we knew

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<v Speaker 5>nothing about the alcohol industry.

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<v Speaker 4>We knew about the.

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<v Speaker 5>Consumer, okay, and so what we did is we set

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<v Speaker 5>out and we would we took a meeting with anyone

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<v Speaker 5>who would ever meet with us that remotely was connected

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<v Speaker 5>to alcohol or that industry, and we would just start

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<v Speaker 5>asking questions and learning. I mean, I do think certain

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<v Speaker 5>categories are saturated, but I also think that, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the way that the world is now, we're going to

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<v Speaker 5>have like fewer multi billion dollar brands and a lot

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<v Speaker 5>more sort of smaller brands that meet you know, consumers

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<v Speaker 5>where they are so much more niche. And I think

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<v Speaker 5>that's you know, the consumer demand has what's really resulted

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<v Speaker 5>in so many brands coming to market with so many

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<v Speaker 5>different points of view.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think as.

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<v Speaker 5>Long as you do have a really unique point of

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<v Speaker 5>view and a unique position in the market, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>you can make room for yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, you feel like you have to also be an

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<v Speaker 1>expert with branding because we we live so much, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on our phones, with social media, and you know, even

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<v Speaker 1>though I am a part of that generation who should

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<v Speaker 1>be fantastic at it, I actually really suck at it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I wish that it wasn't such a huge part

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, the day to day and selling. And

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<v Speaker 1>I hear you it's a real bitch Catherine.

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<v Speaker 5>I know I'm personally not great at it, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>for the brands, I hire the people that really get

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<v Speaker 5>it and understand it and just totally let them do

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<v Speaker 5>their thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I would probably be so much more successful if I

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<v Speaker 4>did lean in a little bit more personally, But I

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<v Speaker 4>just it's not organic to who I am. So I

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<v Speaker 4>totally get it right.

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<v Speaker 1>And you had posted a story This had to have

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<v Speaker 1>been a few weeks ago, and I think it was

0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:05.480
<v Speaker 1>your husband who was talking about how gender roles really

0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:09.240
<v Speaker 1>don't exist in your households. Yes, yes, I love that

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<v Speaker 1>so much. Can you expand on like what your day

0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:15.399
<v Speaker 1>looks like and like what your husband takes on that

0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:18.640
<v Speaker 1>most people would say, oh, that's a quote unquote woman's job,

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<v Speaker 1>Like what does it look like at your house?

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<v Speaker 4>So I think, you know, for one thing, my husband

0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:24.440
<v Speaker 4>grew up with a mom.

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<v Speaker 5>Who ran her own business, you know, was definitely a career,

0:23:29.160 --> 0:23:32.480
<v Speaker 5>you know, driven woman. So I think he's really comfortable

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<v Speaker 5>with that. I mean, he literally started dating me the

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<v Speaker 5>moment I decided to start who what where?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow?

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<v Speaker 5>So he's been through you know, everything with me, and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, we've gone through so many different phases of

0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:48.040
<v Speaker 5>him you know, helping to support me in the early

0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:50.919
<v Speaker 5>days when we were just funding at ourselves and you

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<v Speaker 5>know what, weren't taking a paycheck.

0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:54.200
<v Speaker 4>And now he's.

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<v Speaker 5>Doing a startup, so I'm able to support him where

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<v Speaker 5>well he can just take the time to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know he.

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<v Speaker 5>Has, he's been an advertising photographer and director and you know,

0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:11.600
<v Speaker 5>kind of developed this passion for cooking on the side.

0:24:11.600 --> 0:24:14.960
<v Speaker 5>It really accelerated during COVID. So now he's you know,

0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:19.200
<v Speaker 5>he cooks. I do not cook, what's all. And now

0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:21.600
<v Speaker 5>he's kind of turned that into a business. He's launching

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<v Speaker 5>a food line and you know, I have a four

0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:28.320
<v Speaker 5>year old son, and you know, he's obsessed with Disney

0:24:28.320 --> 0:24:32.560
<v Speaker 5>princesses and Elsa and you know, jewelry and and hair

0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:36.359
<v Speaker 5>accessories and so you know, it's not what you would

0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:40.920
<v Speaker 5>traditionally expect or historically expect, and it works so well

0:24:40.920 --> 0:24:41.600
<v Speaker 5>for our family.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so special.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, we love our son and it's just a

0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:49.840
<v Speaker 5>real it's just you know, I guess I think that's

0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:52.959
<v Speaker 5>what he meant when you know, he said things are changing,

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<v Speaker 5>and he thinks it's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I fully agree. I mean, I think it's absolutely spectacular

0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:02.680
<v Speaker 1>when you see a man like really supporting his wife

0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:06.200
<v Speaker 1>while she goes out and does the things that you do.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm sure he's so proud, and what an

0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:09.760
<v Speaker 1>epic example for your son.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, and it is.

0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 5>You know, it is a full time job to be

0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:20.120
<v Speaker 5>in a relationship with an entrepreneur, and you know, with

0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 5>someone with really bold ambitions.

0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:25.280
<v Speaker 4>You know, he's totally.

0:25:25.119 --> 0:25:28.879
<v Speaker 5>You know, just probably very comfortable with with you know,

0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:30.760
<v Speaker 5>what he's doing right now in our life.

0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:33.960
<v Speaker 4>And I'm just always like driving for more. He puts

0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:37.440
<v Speaker 4>up with that, and so no, I.

0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:38.880
<v Speaker 3>Love it like that too.

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<v Speaker 2>I say, I cook and I clean, No kidding, I

0:25:41.920 --> 0:25:45.280
<v Speaker 2>don't do anything of us star.

0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:48.000
<v Speaker 3>By the way, La La bullshited me, just so we're

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:49.200
<v Speaker 3>all clear, and I will.

0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:50.679
<v Speaker 1>I did totally.

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<v Speaker 3>She costs me two one one thousand dollars.

0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:55.680
<v Speaker 2>So she looked at me and she's and I said, babe,

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 2>you know like when I met her kind of similar.

0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:01.159
<v Speaker 2>She was just starting on the SHO Show. She was

0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:04.400
<v Speaker 2>just she had all these dreams and ambitions. And when

0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:06.320
<v Speaker 2>I met her, She's like, Babe, I want to start

0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:08.960
<v Speaker 2>a skin a makeup brand. I was like, oh, that's great,

0:26:09.320 --> 0:26:11.119
<v Speaker 2>and just out of the gate, you know, needed my

0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:14.920
<v Speaker 2>support and love and cheerleading. And I did it because

0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:16.680
<v Speaker 2>I knew she was a boss. So I wasn't even

0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:20.199
<v Speaker 2>a question. And I said, can I invest in in

0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:22.959
<v Speaker 2>this thing? Because I know whatever she does, she's going

0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:25.639
<v Speaker 2>to drive it home. And I was like, she's definitely

0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:28.040
<v Speaker 2>gonna take my money. And she came home like a

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:31.080
<v Speaker 2>few days later and she's like, baby, you know, I

0:26:31.119 --> 0:26:34.320
<v Speaker 2>really love you and I just need your support, but

0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:37.640
<v Speaker 2>not financially. And I was like, what, You're not gonna

0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 2>And I was so like bent. And now she's turned

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:43.120
<v Speaker 2>into a multi million dollar business. I'm so proud of her.

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:47.639
<v Speaker 2>It is, baby, it is. She downplays it, but but

0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:49.280
<v Speaker 2>the thing is, I'm so proud of her. She did

0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:51.439
<v Speaker 2>it all on her own, didn't. I mean, you know,

0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:54.119
<v Speaker 2>with my emotional support, but not. But did it all

0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:56.359
<v Speaker 2>on her own. R. But the funny thing is she

0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:58.399
<v Speaker 2>did cost me two undred grand with the cooking because

0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:00.840
<v Speaker 2>I said to her, baby, if you would just cook

0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 2>one time a week for you, just so.

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:04.840
<v Speaker 3>I feel like, pretend, just play, pretend.

0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:08.200
<v Speaker 2>I'll buy the apron, I'll stand around the side, I'll

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:11.600
<v Speaker 2>I'll even put the ingredients on the stove for you

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:13.359
<v Speaker 2>and we could just like kind of do it together.

0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:17.119
<v Speaker 3>She's like, if I had a nice kitchen, I would,

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:18.240
<v Speaker 3>So what did I do?

0:27:19.119 --> 0:27:21.199
<v Speaker 4>I built her the best in the kitchen.

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:23.920
<v Speaker 2>The best okay, they asked me, and I don't know

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:26.159
<v Speaker 2>about cooking. They asked me, like, do you want the

0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:27.680
<v Speaker 2>four bird or the six burn of the apron? I

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:31.080
<v Speaker 2>was like, apron. My girl needs an apron. She hasn't

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:33.680
<v Speaker 2>been in that kitchen since that thing was completed.

0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:35.199
<v Speaker 1>So it's gorgeous.

0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:39.720
<v Speaker 4>Though, you know, it's you gotta love it. You love

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 4>and you know if you don't, it's like why you know?

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:47.719
<v Speaker 1>But Catherine, he likes he likes beef jerky, which is

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 1>his version of steak, and like well done chicken. And

0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 1>that's not fun. It's like, give me something fun. I

0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:54.720
<v Speaker 1>like a challenge.

0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 3>So you did cook a smoothie. I'm cooking. You did

0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 3>blend the smoothie for me the other day. I was shocked.

0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:02.800
<v Speaker 3>You're like. I woke up and she's like, do you

0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:04.960
<v Speaker 3>want a smoothie? And I was like, who are you?

0:28:05.440 --> 0:28:07.240
<v Speaker 3>And she's like, I'm into it right now. It's like

0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:08.240
<v Speaker 3>I'll take it whatever.

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:11.360
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell that's true. I do stup my ja body.

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:13.399
<v Speaker 4>During lockdown, you guys didn't even get.

0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 1>Any Can I tell you it was hysterical because we're

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:22.640
<v Speaker 1>sitting down after restaurants opened for takeout, and we sit

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:24.439
<v Speaker 1>down and Randall's like, don't you just feel like a

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:26.960
<v Speaker 1>normal person again now that we can order takeout? I

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 1>was like, and this is why we're meant to be.

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:33.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, we didn't. We didn't.

0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, We're lucky that, you know, because I have

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 2>I have three kids told to I have two kids

0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 2>that are seven to eleven and now a newborn was

0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 2>five months four and a half months. And when we're

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 2>in lockdown, you know, we have a nanny that helps

0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:49.080
<v Speaker 2>out when I go to work, and she goes to work,

0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:52.959
<v Speaker 2>and thank god, she does cook. Isabelle does cook and

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 2>she is she loves. She gets home and she's like,

0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:57.560
<v Speaker 2>what can I make everybody? I was like, oh my god.

0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:00.720
<v Speaker 2>So I think that we're both a little spoiled. She

0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:02.480
<v Speaker 2>knows that her Like last.

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:03.640
<v Speaker 3>Night, I'll give you a perfect example.

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 2>We're alone last night with our with our four and

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:09.160
<v Speaker 2>a half months old, and we get home and and

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 2>we're sitting there, it's like eight o'clock and I'm like,

0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 2>what are we have for dinner? And she's like, I

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:15.120
<v Speaker 2>don't know, Like we just we just hit a wall.

0:29:15.160 --> 0:29:17.000
<v Speaker 2>We're just alone. I don't know what.

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:20.360
<v Speaker 4>I totally get it. By the way, it's a little

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:20.960
<v Speaker 4>bit of a myth.

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 5>You know, Justin is out a different house filming like

0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:28.280
<v Speaker 5>four things at a time. They're not actually making right

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:33.160
<v Speaker 5>home to me, and my wonderful nanny is downstairs right

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 5>now making a chicken as we speak.

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:36.960
<v Speaker 3>So it's a.

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:40.120
<v Speaker 4>Little bit of a myth. But he definitely does cook

0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:40.960
<v Speaker 4>for us, you.

0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 3>Know, has the ability when he wants to step up.

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:46.960
<v Speaker 1>He'll step up two three times a week after that's

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:47.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot.

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, could I take what's a month at this point?

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 1>But right, okay, we're going to take a short break

0:29:52.560 --> 0:30:01.360
<v Speaker 1>and we will be right back. And we're back. That's

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 1>so short, that's so it's quick.

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 4>Great.

0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 1>So I have a question. You said your husband's name

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 1>is Justin. Yeah, you said you met him right before

0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 1>you started Who what where? What were you doing before

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:17.480
<v Speaker 1>you started that?

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 4>So? I was the West Coast editor of L magazine, And.

0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 1>So you're just a baller. You're just a gangst like

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:27.440
<v Speaker 1>you just have always been a hustler.

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:27.920
<v Speaker 3>That.

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've always been a hustler. You know, I did not.

0:30:31.640 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 5>Have a traditional education path I was. When I was young,

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 5>I was a very serious dancer.

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:39.400
<v Speaker 4>Kind.

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:43.719
<v Speaker 5>I did everything, mostly jazz and ballet. I was in

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 5>a performing company here in the valley and spent you

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:51.360
<v Speaker 5>know ten am till ten at night, about four days

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:54.680
<v Speaker 5>a week, you know, dancing And so as a result,

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:57.719
<v Speaker 5>I ended up doing home study for high school.

0:30:58.320 --> 0:31:00.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, did that?

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:02.920
<v Speaker 4>And I graduated early.

0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:05.959
<v Speaker 5>You know, I was sixteen, and I was doing a

0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:09.640
<v Speaker 5>lot of you know film and TV as a dancer,

0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 5>and so you know, you had to be emancipated really

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 5>in order to work those adult hours. And so my mom,

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 5>you know, took me at sixteen to be emancipated so

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:23.320
<v Speaker 5>I could do the movie Austin Powers.

0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:24.080
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 5>From then on, Yeah, from then on, I was able

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 5>to work as an adult. So I actually started in film.

0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 5>That's what I thought I wanted to do.

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I went to.

0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:37.240
<v Speaker 4>Work at Touchstone for a producer.

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 5>I was the youngest employee there outside of the kid actors.

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 4>It was owned by Disney.

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 5>But I started working there when I was seventeen, and

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:48.160
<v Speaker 5>I was only able to do that because I had

0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 5>been you know, emancipated and did that for a while,

0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:53.520
<v Speaker 5>and then I got into night life.

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 4>And you know, I always say.

0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 3>When you say, I said, didn't we all at a

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 3>nightlight at some point?

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 5>And my you know, my, my advice to to anyone

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 5>looking for a career is just find something you love

0:32:07.440 --> 0:32:08.840
<v Speaker 5>to do and then figure out a way to get

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 5>paid for it. So I followed my own advice and

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:15.520
<v Speaker 5>started working for a really big club promoter and here

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:17.800
<v Speaker 5>here in Los Angeles called Brent Bulthouse.

0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:21.720
<v Speaker 2>I was going to say, he's the greatest, by the way,

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:22.960
<v Speaker 2>the greatest.

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes.

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 5>So I started, much like you, Lala, as a hostess

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 5>at these clubs, and you know, started doing bottle service.

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:33.920
<v Speaker 5>We didn't have it in LA it was a big

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 5>thing in New York. But I used to book people

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:40.440
<v Speaker 5>in these tables and charge for them. And then I

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 5>from there, you know, started to see that all of

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 5>these brands were coming to us asking, you know, hey,

0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:48.520
<v Speaker 5>can we hand out our soda in your club? Or

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 5>hey can we give out you know products as people leave?

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:55.400
<v Speaker 5>And I realized we had such a valuable audience that

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:58.320
<v Speaker 5>was coming together, you know, three days a week. So

0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 5>I went to brand and I pitched this idea of

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:05.760
<v Speaker 5>starting a marketing division there where you know, companies would

0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 5>pay us to integrate their products. Yeah, that was kind

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 5>of how I got into you know, integrated advertising, which

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 5>is ultimately what a media company does. And so from there,

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 5>between that and my relationships just in Hollywood, I got

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 5>the West Coast editor role at L and L Girl

0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 5>because a lot of that job was booking talent, so

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 5>booking celebrities for covers, all of that. So that's really

0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:37.360
<v Speaker 5>how I got into publishing and fashion and all of that.

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 5>And and you know, from there, as I saw my

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:43.960
<v Speaker 5>own behavior shift to being online, you know, decided to

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 5>start something that was internet based.

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 3>Wow, that's a pretty dope story.

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like I'm friends with Brent and Noah and

0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:55.280
<v Speaker 2>Jason all the you know night. Yeah, because I'm fifty,

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:58.120
<v Speaker 2>and we all came up, you know together at a

0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 2>time where they you know, were promote or they were

0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean they turned it into these you know,

0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:05.960
<v Speaker 2>no adjacent soul to Madison Square Garden. My friend David

0:34:05.960 --> 0:34:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Grutman sold to Live Nation. I mean, all these guys

0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 2>turned into moguls, and I'm so proud of all of them, because,

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 2>like you said, it was a time that was so

0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 2>new and fresh in night life and then became like

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:20.080
<v Speaker 2>you said, I could I mean you said it so well,

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, the brands came in and the big businesses

0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:25.759
<v Speaker 2>came in and it just, you know, grew. But I

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 2>mean that's a that's such a neat story because I

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 2>think people who are listening sometimes look at themselves, at

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:33.239
<v Speaker 2>least people I speak to, or like, how do I

0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:35.600
<v Speaker 2>get into Hollywood? Or how do I start a business?

0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:37.359
<v Speaker 2>How do I do all that? And they think kind

0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:40.400
<v Speaker 2>of like you just start there, but you're look, you know,

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:42.680
<v Speaker 2>you started as a dancer and then went into night

0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 2>life and then went into publishing. And I just think

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:47.279
<v Speaker 2>there's the moral of the story for me when I

0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:49.239
<v Speaker 2>when I hear someone like you was so successful, is

0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 2>there is no right path. It's it's got to have

0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 2>passion and it's got to have determination and a vision,

0:34:55.640 --> 0:34:58.719
<v Speaker 2>and if you have that, you really can't fail ultimately.

0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:00.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean you just you have to just kind of

0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 2>drive that passion into success, right.

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And so when you started, did you have to

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 1>give up that job at el or what like what

0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:13.879
<v Speaker 1>did your your justine at the time when you were

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:15.759
<v Speaker 1>like I'm going to start this, was it like I'm

0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:18.120
<v Speaker 1>going to make this a hobby or did you have

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:19.680
<v Speaker 1>like a really grand viil.

0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:22.839
<v Speaker 5>We were committed to making it a business. In fact,

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 5>we were so offended in those early years when anyone

0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:30.359
<v Speaker 5>would call us a blog because literally, like you know,

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 5>we took our savings and invested it in this, in

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 5>this business, and we licensed photos from day one and

0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 5>did everything legally. When you had all of these like

0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:43.440
<v Speaker 5>pres Hilton and all of the you know, really gossip

0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:46.440
<v Speaker 5>sites that were that were coming up, we were just

0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:51.359
<v Speaker 5>taking a pure approach to fashion and always ran it

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:54.840
<v Speaker 5>that way. And because we had such a positive spin

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:58.920
<v Speaker 5>on everything this, you know, celebrities that we feature started

0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:02.759
<v Speaker 5>talking about us, and that's really what propelled the you know,

0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:06.120
<v Speaker 5>the brand to become a big media company.

0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Wow, it's and I love that you you say that,

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:13.520
<v Speaker 1>because so often we see things online where it's you know,

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:16.840
<v Speaker 1>obviously things are to get clicks. You know, if I

0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:19.399
<v Speaker 1>see something that says that someone has beef with someone,

0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:21.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to click on that rather than like so

0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:24.000
<v Speaker 1>and so is so happy right now? You know, it's

0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:28.520
<v Speaker 1>so for you guys to take a positive approach to Yeah,

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:31.719
<v Speaker 1>I just think that's amazing. So you really did put

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 1>all of your eggs in this basket.

0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:35.279
<v Speaker 4>We really really did.

0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:39.920
<v Speaker 5>And I've always been someone who just is a risk taker.

0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:42.920
<v Speaker 4>I mean specifically with more my mind.

0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:45.000
<v Speaker 5>I would never like jump out of a plane, really,

0:36:45.200 --> 0:36:48.680
<v Speaker 5>but I will, you know, take my last dollar and

0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:52.440
<v Speaker 5>and throw it into something I believe in, or you know,

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:54.640
<v Speaker 5>stand up on a stage and tell people I'm going

0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:56.920
<v Speaker 5>to do this and then make sure it gets done.

0:36:57.080 --> 0:37:00.720
<v Speaker 5>So it's just not I I've always had that sense

0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 5>about me where I just kind of go do something

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:05.200
<v Speaker 5>and that's just what's going to happen.

0:37:05.920 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 1>I love it. And you know, you're a mom of

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 1>a four year old. I'm a new mom, and I've

0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:16.240
<v Speaker 1>found it hard to balance the two. You know, someone

0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:18.960
<v Speaker 1>who wants to go out and work and create something

0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:22.120
<v Speaker 1>for herself and be a great mom to my daughter.

0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:24.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm sure a lot of moms feel that

0:37:24.880 --> 0:37:26.719
<v Speaker 1>guilt when they walk out the door and they're like,

0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:28.399
<v Speaker 1>am I doing the right thing?

0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 4>Like?

0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Do I need to make adjustments so that I can

0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 1>be with my kid all the time? How do you

0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:33.400
<v Speaker 1>manage that?

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:38.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's a great question, and you know, I didn't

0:37:38.320 --> 0:37:41.960
<v Speaker 5>really get comfortable, I think, with being a mom until.

0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 4>My son was almost two.

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:46.279
<v Speaker 5>Really wow, you know, it felt kind of for it

0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:47.600
<v Speaker 5>still felt foreign to me.

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:49.959
<v Speaker 4>Am I doing this right? Am I spending enough time?

0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:51.680
<v Speaker 4>Is it okay if I travel now?

0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:55.160
<v Speaker 5>And honestly, the first eight months were sort of a blur,

0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:57.840
<v Speaker 5>like I can look back on it now, but I

0:37:57.840 --> 0:37:59.759
<v Speaker 5>think when I was in it, it was just it

0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:01.800
<v Speaker 5>was just sort of a blur. And I think, you know,

0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:05.040
<v Speaker 5>I didn't take I took like a month off and

0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:07.279
<v Speaker 5>I you know, wasn't long enough and I should have

0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:11.160
<v Speaker 5>done more. But you know, I I did struggle with

0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:14.719
<v Speaker 5>that in the beginning. But ultimately I think, you know,

0:38:15.200 --> 0:38:18.120
<v Speaker 5>you just have to realize, like you're you're always going

0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:20.879
<v Speaker 5>to be the mom, and you can define your own

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:23.920
<v Speaker 5>way of being a parent. And that may look different

0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 5>than you know, your your friends who are stay at

0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:30.840
<v Speaker 5>home moms. But I found actually a great community of

0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:35.640
<v Speaker 5>moms who helped support me. So like my friends who

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:37.640
<v Speaker 5>are stay at home moms, will make sure my kids

0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 5>enrolled in a class.

0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:39.400
<v Speaker 4>That they're doing.

0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:42.160
<v Speaker 5>And I know the best you know psychologists to go

0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:45.239
<v Speaker 5>to without having to research it. And so for me,

0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:49.000
<v Speaker 5>it's it's just also creating that network of support. But

0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:50.879
<v Speaker 5>I just think it's going to be so much more

0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:54.600
<v Speaker 5>valuable to your child, you know, to have them see

0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 5>you do something you love, you know, whether that is

0:38:57.520 --> 0:39:01.280
<v Speaker 5>being a full time mom or having full time career.

0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:05.919
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, I think there's no right or wrong way

0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:06.400
<v Speaker 5>to do it.

0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:08.480
<v Speaker 3>I want to say that I agree with you.

0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:10.400
<v Speaker 2>I think you said it perfectly, like there are people

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:13.680
<v Speaker 2>who are equally as passionate about being at home with

0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:16.920
<v Speaker 2>their child every single minute. And there are people like

0:39:17.160 --> 0:39:19.920
<v Speaker 2>both of you who love your career and love your children.

0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:22.359
<v Speaker 2>But I do think the people that do love their

0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:27.000
<v Speaker 2>career as mothers. I always tell Lala, don't worry like

0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:29.719
<v Speaker 2>you're home all the time with our baby when you

0:39:29.760 --> 0:39:30.200
<v Speaker 2>need to go.

0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 3>Out and work and make a living.

0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 2>She's going to look up to you when she's ten, eight, twelve, fifteen.

0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:39.680
<v Speaker 2>She's going to say, my mom set a role you know,

0:39:39.719 --> 0:39:41.480
<v Speaker 2>she's a role model for me, just like an stay

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:44.399
<v Speaker 2>at home mom that that daughter will say about her

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:47.040
<v Speaker 2>mom or son, My mom was there every day and

0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:51.640
<v Speaker 2>did this, whereas you two will have the perspective of

0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:53.880
<v Speaker 2>it's okay to go out and work and it's okay

0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:56.440
<v Speaker 2>to have a family and have a full time career.

0:39:56.440 --> 0:39:58.319
<v Speaker 2>And I think, you know, I try to tell Lala

0:39:58.360 --> 0:40:01.920
<v Speaker 2>because she goes, you know, up and down tears, you know,

0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:04.759
<v Speaker 2>while leaving my baby. I'm like, you are in it

0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:07.960
<v Speaker 2>every day you come back from the set and you

0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:09.839
<v Speaker 2>sit there in the middle of the night. Why I

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:14.920
<v Speaker 2>snore and don't hear a friggin thing, you know, breastfeeding, feeding,

0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:18.040
<v Speaker 2>changing diapers. So it's like, you know, you're you're a

0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:19.920
<v Speaker 2>wonder woman. And I think you you know, you just

0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:23.440
<v Speaker 2>have to or Superman, you just have to, like you said,

0:40:23.560 --> 0:40:28.120
<v Speaker 2>you have to just own that you're a successful, strong woman,

0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 2>like you know, both of you, and and and women

0:40:30.640 --> 0:40:34.799
<v Speaker 2>who choose careers. I know they feel guilt. I see

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:36.759
<v Speaker 2>it every day with her. Every day she asks me,

0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:40.040
<v Speaker 2>am I a good moming. Stop you are the best?

0:40:40.320 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 2>You're the best.

0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I said it this morning, Catherine. I was like, you

0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:44.560
<v Speaker 1>want to know what would make me feel really good

0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:46.239
<v Speaker 1>right now is if you told me that I'm a

0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:46.759
<v Speaker 1>good mom.

0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:48.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, every day everything.

0:40:48.120 --> 0:40:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I just need to hear it right now.

0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:53.239
<v Speaker 5>Just just the fact that you are wondering that and

0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:55.960
<v Speaker 5>you're worried about it, like you're a good mom, and.

0:40:55.840 --> 0:40:59.319
<v Speaker 4>By the way, enjoy this time right now and go

0:40:59.360 --> 0:40:59.680
<v Speaker 4>out and.

0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:03.520
<v Speaker 5>Get shit it done because she has no idea what's going.

0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:05.920
<v Speaker 1>On, like, so I say.

0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:09.399
<v Speaker 5>Only just now, like, mom, don't go upstairs. My home

0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:13.680
<v Speaker 5>office is upstairs. He has no idea that I was

0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:16.279
<v Speaker 5>flying all over the country when he was two months old,

0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:19.560
<v Speaker 5>or even he doesn't even remember when I used to

0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:22.120
<v Speaker 5>go into an office and that was just eighteen months ago.

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:22.439
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:24.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, zero recollection zero.

0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:29.640
<v Speaker 5>He only knows life and a mask and mommy works upstairs.

0:41:29.680 --> 0:41:31.120
<v Speaker 4>So she has no idea.

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:31.840
<v Speaker 3>Honey, I.

0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Just want to say I agree. And I said to her,

0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:39.160
<v Speaker 2>I said, babe, once she starts preschool, learn from me.

0:41:39.280 --> 0:41:43.359
<v Speaker 2>Once they start elementary school and they remember, shit, oh,

0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:45.920
<v Speaker 2>mommy's got to go to New York for two days.

0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:50.320
<v Speaker 3>They know right now, surely wants the bottle, surely wants

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:51.960
<v Speaker 3>the bottle, and to just google.

0:41:52.040 --> 0:41:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Gotta right totally. Yeah, So what was it? What was

0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:57.960
<v Speaker 1>your what was your first trip if you remember away

0:41:58.040 --> 0:42:00.759
<v Speaker 1>from your baby that you had to take and did

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:03.040
<v Speaker 1>you leave him at home or did you bring someone

0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:03.520
<v Speaker 1>to help.

0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:07.440
<v Speaker 5>No, I left my baby at home. We had our

0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:09.920
<v Speaker 5>baby nurse for about four and a half months. And

0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:12.800
<v Speaker 5>that was so during that time, I just did everything,

0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:16.200
<v Speaker 5>you know, I because I felt more comfortable having somebody

0:42:16.200 --> 0:42:17.799
<v Speaker 5>who was there, you know, all night.

0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:20.960
<v Speaker 4>I think I went to New York.

0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:23.440
<v Speaker 5>I mean I did so many trips. I don't remember

0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:25.560
<v Speaker 5>what the first one is, but you know it was

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:29.960
<v Speaker 5>certainly New York, certainly Minnesota tons of times. But that's

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 5>where targets located. San Francisco, Europe.

0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Like I've you know, oh you you were working, hustling.

0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:38.759
<v Speaker 3>Working, But that's what I say.

0:42:38.840 --> 0:42:41.120
<v Speaker 2>It's like, you know, I know that we bring the

0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:43.120
<v Speaker 2>baby on some of the little trips with down, but yeah,

0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:45.160
<v Speaker 2>it's okay for you to get on a plane and

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:46.040
<v Speaker 2>go to New York for.

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:49.399
<v Speaker 3>Three days because right now is the time, Like she's saying,

0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:49.960
<v Speaker 3>I agree with that.

0:42:50.680 --> 0:42:53.279
<v Speaker 1>We have we have Bravocon coming up. And I was

0:42:53.320 --> 0:42:56.160
<v Speaker 1>talking to my friend Sheena, who's also on the show,

0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:57.759
<v Speaker 1>who has a three month old.

0:42:58.000 --> 0:43:01.680
<v Speaker 4>Oh I know, Sheena, yes, And you know, we were going.

0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Back and forth like do we bring our babies or

0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:06.920
<v Speaker 1>do we not? For them? Obviously for us, we selfishly

0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:09.520
<v Speaker 1>want them there just because they're a part of us.

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:12.680
<v Speaker 1>It would be a nightmare, Like I already know that

0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 1>there would be a lot of work, but now we've

0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:18.960
<v Speaker 1>decided we're going to leave them home, and I'm like,

0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I have anxiety about it at night, you know, because

0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:23.959
<v Speaker 1>I haven't left her yet.

0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:27.359
<v Speaker 4>I understand, but it's better for you.

0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:30.040
<v Speaker 5>To go get in, get out, get it done, come

0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:30.720
<v Speaker 5>home faster.

0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:31.400
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:33.440
<v Speaker 5>I felt like it would I would have to be

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:36.239
<v Speaker 5>there longer if he was there and settle him in

0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:41.239
<v Speaker 5>and like to not disrupt her routine right and her

0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:42.280
<v Speaker 5>you know flow.

0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:46.239
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's going to be great, and you know

0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:49.279
<v Speaker 4>great by the way, be.

0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:51.560
<v Speaker 5>In the mindset of work, go get it done right

0:43:51.960 --> 0:43:52.520
<v Speaker 5>by home.

0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:54.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, I totally like that.

0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:56.960
<v Speaker 3>I also think that you're going to be better on that.

0:43:56.880 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 2>Trip than you would because you would every five seconds

0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:04.319
<v Speaker 2>be asking me to go to the hotel and check

0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:06.120
<v Speaker 2>on our child, but in not.

0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:07.839
<v Speaker 3>Being able to be present. Just get your work done,

0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:10.600
<v Speaker 3>you know. You know, are like, we had a night.

0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 2>Nurse for four plus months two and now we're into

0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:17.080
<v Speaker 2>the nanny you know phase, and she loves for nanny.

0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:21.120
<v Speaker 2>She went through thirty interviews before we found her, and now.

0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:23.600
<v Speaker 3>She's like, you feel safe, Yeah.

0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:27.759
<v Speaker 1>Definitely, Yeah, so before we let you go be a

0:44:27.800 --> 0:44:31.760
<v Speaker 1>boss again. I saw this question on I was watching

0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:34.400
<v Speaker 1>The Big Shot with Bethany Frankel, and you're a boss

0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:36.400
<v Speaker 1>like she is, so and I want to know, is

0:44:36.400 --> 0:44:40.400
<v Speaker 1>there any is there any thing that you would say

0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:43.280
<v Speaker 1>no to? I mean, you're you're in the wine business,

0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:45.640
<v Speaker 1>you have a peril, you have the makeup, the skincare.

0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Is there anything that you'd be like, I don't need

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:51.680
<v Speaker 1>that a part of my brand? You know.

0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:56.040
<v Speaker 5>I'm I'm trying to learn to say no to a lot, okay,

0:44:56.040 --> 0:44:58.879
<v Speaker 5>And I think that's you know, I think like there's

0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:03.719
<v Speaker 5>been this real hustle culture of wanting to do all

0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:05.960
<v Speaker 5>of the things as hard as you can. And I

0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:08.880
<v Speaker 5>think just now I feel like I'm in a position

0:45:08.920 --> 0:45:11.520
<v Speaker 5>in my career to be able to say no to things.

0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:14.880
<v Speaker 5>You know, I think if you mean, is there a

0:45:14.920 --> 0:45:19.080
<v Speaker 5>category of business I wouldn't get in? You know, I

0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:22.120
<v Speaker 5>I I think it's always going to be something that

0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:24.879
<v Speaker 5>I have interest in, because if you're interested in what

0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:26.319
<v Speaker 5>you do, you're just driven.

0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:27.040
<v Speaker 4>That much further.

0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:29.600
<v Speaker 5>And there's going to be, you know, plenty of things

0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:31.840
<v Speaker 5>like I'm probably not going to start a camping line,

0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:37.160
<v Speaker 5>much to my husband's dismay, but I'm not, you know.

0:45:37.560 --> 0:45:40.799
<v Speaker 5>But but but in general, like I'm trying to say

0:45:40.800 --> 0:45:42.319
<v Speaker 5>no to more stuff I can.

0:45:43.920 --> 0:45:44.720
<v Speaker 3>LAA.

0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:48.839
<v Speaker 2>This is probably the best podcast. I feel like if

0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:49.920
<v Speaker 2>you absorb.

0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:50.800
<v Speaker 3>This, oh.

0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:55.040
<v Speaker 2>Off and then she wakes up and she's like losing

0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:58.240
<v Speaker 2>her mind, and I'm like, honey, you've been saying yes everybody.

0:45:58.320 --> 0:46:00.880
<v Speaker 1>I I feel like when when you to the position

0:46:00.920 --> 0:46:03.880
<v Speaker 1>that you're in, you can start saying no. You know,

0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:06.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm still I like to say that we're off of

0:46:06.920 --> 0:46:09.920
<v Speaker 1>the floor. You know, we're above the ground, but we're

0:46:09.920 --> 0:46:12.200
<v Speaker 1>still hovering. We're still waiting to figure out how to

0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:15.920
<v Speaker 1>fly with what I'm you know, what I've created, And

0:46:16.000 --> 0:46:19.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like I have the luxury yet to

0:46:19.560 --> 0:46:22.080
<v Speaker 1>say no to a lot of things. You know, I

0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:24.400
<v Speaker 1>have bills to pay, I have a lot of things

0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:26.680
<v Speaker 1>that come in and I just don't think that that's

0:46:26.680 --> 0:46:30.600
<v Speaker 1>something that I should do quite yet. Yeah.

0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:32.799
<v Speaker 5>Well, I mean you have sections of your life though,

0:46:32.880 --> 0:46:35.560
<v Speaker 5>right so some sections you may be further ahead in

0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:38.480
<v Speaker 5>and I can start saying no in those things. I mean,

0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:41.799
<v Speaker 5>for me, like, there are things and people like I

0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:44.320
<v Speaker 5>don't say no to, right then there are other things

0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:46.240
<v Speaker 5>that I've been doing for a while that I can start,

0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:48.120
<v Speaker 5>you know, so you just run.

0:46:49.520 --> 0:46:51.360
<v Speaker 3>Talking about when.

0:46:51.239 --> 0:46:53.239
<v Speaker 2>I say when I say, she say no, I mean

0:46:53.360 --> 0:46:57.319
<v Speaker 2>like the makeup line is really thriving, right, And then

0:46:57.360 --> 0:46:59.560
<v Speaker 2>she'll go start three more businesses.

0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:01.520
<v Speaker 3>But that'sbody will come from the back and say, you

0:47:01.600 --> 0:47:03.360
<v Speaker 3>want to start this business, and I'm.

0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:06.440
<v Speaker 2>Like, law, take a beat, like grow the three things

0:47:06.480 --> 0:47:10.160
<v Speaker 2>you have right now, take those to the top, and

0:47:10.239 --> 0:47:12.239
<v Speaker 2>then kind of go down that road.

0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:16.040
<v Speaker 3>Because because she gets very like she wants.

0:47:15.719 --> 0:47:17.839
<v Speaker 2>To get it all done, she never wants to quit,

0:47:17.960 --> 0:47:20.960
<v Speaker 2>she never wants to stop. So there then then there

0:47:21.000 --> 0:47:24.440
<v Speaker 2>starts to be a little too much of herself given.

0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:27.399
<v Speaker 3>And I worry about her in your and her.

0:47:27.400 --> 0:47:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Sanity because you know, I handle stress like I love

0:47:31.080 --> 0:47:31.520
<v Speaker 2>the stress.

0:47:31.560 --> 0:47:32.680
<v Speaker 3>I can't get enough of it.

0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:37.400
<v Speaker 2>She's somebody that she she deals with it all day long.

0:47:37.840 --> 0:47:41.040
<v Speaker 2>But sometimes it'll just too much, too much, too much,

0:47:41.040 --> 0:47:44.000
<v Speaker 2>too much, right and now being a mom, but yeah.

0:47:44.160 --> 0:47:48.160
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I mean also, you're leveraging your face and

0:47:48.200 --> 0:47:50.680
<v Speaker 5>your being in a way that I'm not, and I

0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:54.759
<v Speaker 5>think that is absolutely exhausting.

0:47:55.160 --> 0:47:58.400
<v Speaker 4>You know. It's that you know, when you when it's

0:47:58.440 --> 0:47:59.400
<v Speaker 4>about your face.

0:47:59.440 --> 0:48:03.480
<v Speaker 5>When I have to do something, you know, a TV appearance,

0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:07.000
<v Speaker 5>you know, appearing at a conference or whatever, that's performing

0:48:07.080 --> 0:48:10.040
<v Speaker 5>that takes so much energy. So you can't do that

0:48:10.480 --> 0:48:12.920
<v Speaker 5>as much as you can do a behind the scenes

0:48:13.040 --> 0:48:14.120
<v Speaker 5>kind of a job.

0:48:14.440 --> 0:48:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Right now, that is a great see like from so much, but.

0:48:19.760 --> 0:48:22.759
<v Speaker 3>Honestly, honestly, that is such a great point. I didn't

0:48:22.760 --> 0:48:23.400
<v Speaker 3>even think about that.

0:48:23.680 --> 0:48:26.879
<v Speaker 2>When I'm making movies, I'm behind the scenes, I can

0:48:26.920 --> 0:48:30.239
<v Speaker 2>do six at one time, negotiate because but when I

0:48:30.280 --> 0:48:32.800
<v Speaker 2>go on her show and I have to film literally

0:48:33.200 --> 0:48:35.760
<v Speaker 2>two days in one week for three.

0:48:35.560 --> 0:48:37.760
<v Speaker 3>Hours in the office, I feel you have to can nap.

0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:39.479
<v Speaker 3>I need like, yes time.

0:48:39.719 --> 0:48:43.879
<v Speaker 2>So she does it five days a week and does all.

0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:46.000
<v Speaker 2>I agree, babe, because the difference is that you're right,

0:48:46.120 --> 0:48:48.160
<v Speaker 2>your face is out there, your being is out there.

0:48:48.760 --> 0:48:52.040
<v Speaker 2>Most of our stuff we're sitting, you know, behind the scenes,

0:48:52.080 --> 0:48:54.920
<v Speaker 2>and that's where I think you start to get exhausted,

0:48:55.160 --> 0:48:57.080
<v Speaker 2>right you know. But yeah, that's great advice.

0:48:57.160 --> 0:49:00.000
<v Speaker 5>And you know, the show has given you a platform

0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:04.480
<v Speaker 5>now to go and create something bigger, and I do

0:49:04.600 --> 0:49:07.400
<v Speaker 5>think how you handled it over the next couple of

0:49:07.480 --> 0:49:10.319
<v Speaker 5>years is going to be so important for your longevity.

0:49:10.719 --> 0:49:13.399
<v Speaker 5>And that might mean saying no to a bunch of,

0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:17.799
<v Speaker 5>you know, opportunistic things, because you want to focus on

0:49:17.920 --> 0:49:22.000
<v Speaker 5>what's gonna send you beyond this this career today.

0:49:22.280 --> 0:49:24.560
<v Speaker 1>No, You're absolutely right. I think about that all the time,

0:49:24.560 --> 0:49:26.560
<v Speaker 1>and I'm taking your advice great advice.

0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:28.759
<v Speaker 2>I want to ask you a question, Catherine, what's your

0:49:28.760 --> 0:49:30.520
<v Speaker 2>favorite episode on the show?

0:49:30.840 --> 0:49:37.279
<v Speaker 1>Do you have a favorite episode that you.

0:49:34.480 --> 0:49:39.440
<v Speaker 3>Can't all my friends before I ever met her, I.

0:49:39.360 --> 0:49:44.360
<v Speaker 5>Mean, like for me, you know, season two, like Stassy,

0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:50.240
<v Speaker 5>the whole Kristen thing. I mean, it's like Vanderpunk Rules

0:49:50.400 --> 0:49:54.120
<v Speaker 5>is the best show that's ever been on television period,

0:49:54.440 --> 0:49:59.000
<v Speaker 5>end of story, Like you could not make that up,

0:49:59.320 --> 0:50:02.120
<v Speaker 5>you know, Like I couldn't script something like that.

0:50:02.239 --> 0:50:06.719
<v Speaker 4>So I think, like it's gotta be in that, you know,

0:50:07.080 --> 0:50:08.200
<v Speaker 4>in that season.

0:50:08.520 --> 0:50:11.040
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I think there were some great episodes with

0:50:11.160 --> 0:50:14.799
<v Speaker 5>you and James the pasta, like there were just you know,

0:50:15.280 --> 0:50:16.440
<v Speaker 5>she does so many.

0:50:16.360 --> 0:50:19.560
<v Speaker 2>She does understand that like half of my Hollywood community

0:50:19.680 --> 0:50:23.080
<v Speaker 2>that like like and I'm just I'm gonna name drop

0:50:23.120 --> 0:50:25.880
<v Speaker 2>one person, but Emma Coscoff, who's one of my best friends,

0:50:26.040 --> 0:50:30.399
<v Speaker 2>who's Martin Scorsese's partner, like literally showed up at the

0:50:30.440 --> 0:50:34.440
<v Speaker 2>season finale of the last season, just to see everybody

0:50:34.520 --> 0:50:36.640
<v Speaker 2>she's like and I was like, kind of, that is

0:50:36.680 --> 0:50:38.800
<v Speaker 2>the power of your show, like we love it. And

0:50:38.960 --> 0:50:42.600
<v Speaker 2>season two was insanity.

0:50:42.040 --> 0:50:45.839
<v Speaker 1>During the pandemic because I'm I had never seen an

0:50:45.880 --> 0:50:49.640
<v Speaker 1>episode of inter Bump Rules that I wasn't on because

0:50:49.680 --> 0:50:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm that being I guess, but I started watching it

0:50:54.960 --> 0:50:57.640
<v Speaker 1>from the beginning and I was like, yeah, damn, this

0:50:57.800 --> 0:50:59.480
<v Speaker 1>is like great TV. And I don't know if I

0:50:59.520 --> 0:51:02.040
<v Speaker 1>should feel like honored that I get to be a

0:51:02.040 --> 0:51:04.200
<v Speaker 1>part of it, or if I should like kind of

0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:08.879
<v Speaker 1>question my mental states because they're crazy and.

0:51:09.120 --> 0:51:12.080
<v Speaker 4>It is very well watch it. If you watched it,

0:51:12.120 --> 0:51:13.319
<v Speaker 4>you may not have done it.

0:51:13.600 --> 0:51:14.840
<v Speaker 1>By the way, it's true.

0:51:15.120 --> 0:51:18.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean season two, season three, what they did. I

0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:23.000
<v Speaker 2>used to tell friends of mine, this cast is like gold.

0:51:23.200 --> 0:51:26.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't want them to go anywhere. It's unreal.

0:51:27.160 --> 0:51:32.480
<v Speaker 5>How could they possibly find this perfect comp I just

0:51:33.280 --> 0:51:36.759
<v Speaker 5>anyone who's never watched the show, I say, just go

0:51:36.800 --> 0:51:39.120
<v Speaker 5>start at season one. This is the greatest gift I'm

0:51:39.160 --> 0:51:43.360
<v Speaker 5>ever going to give you. I wish I could live.

0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:45.000
<v Speaker 4>Through you again. And seeing it for the first time,

0:51:45.080 --> 0:51:45.880
<v Speaker 4>oh my gosh.

0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I love hearing that and.

0:51:48.160 --> 0:51:50.000
<v Speaker 3>I would say to her she never watched the show.

0:51:50.040 --> 0:51:52.839
<v Speaker 2>Like the first early season, I said, you don't understand

0:51:52.960 --> 0:51:55.000
<v Speaker 2>why we all feel this way.

0:51:55.080 --> 0:51:57.839
<v Speaker 3>Now, I know the first three seasons you get it,

0:51:57.920 --> 0:52:01.760
<v Speaker 3>But I mean it was like days I just going backwards.

0:52:01.800 --> 0:52:04.279
<v Speaker 2>I would call Emma. There were days where I'll call

0:52:04.320 --> 0:52:06.359
<v Speaker 2>them and say, this can't be really like.

0:52:06.280 --> 0:52:11.080
<v Speaker 3>This is too it's scripted. It's so insane perfect, it's

0:52:11.080 --> 0:52:12.520
<v Speaker 3>too perfect, right perfect.

0:52:12.840 --> 0:52:15.960
<v Speaker 5>I mean, are the producers just amazing or is it

0:52:16.120 --> 0:52:17.840
<v Speaker 5>just these perfect people.

0:52:18.600 --> 0:52:22.080
<v Speaker 1>I think that the way that they edit the show,

0:52:22.360 --> 0:52:26.640
<v Speaker 1>they make it so funny, but like we're really just

0:52:26.840 --> 0:52:31.400
<v Speaker 1>that insane. Like I sit there and when things are happening,

0:52:31.440 --> 0:52:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I sometimes have out of body experiences and I'm like,

0:52:34.400 --> 0:52:37.440
<v Speaker 1>are we really like talking about this stuff?

0:52:37.640 --> 0:52:39.600
<v Speaker 2>I'll give you one. I'll give you one and sight first.

0:52:39.880 --> 0:52:42.800
<v Speaker 2>I definitely think the producers are very talented.

0:52:43.000 --> 0:52:45.279
<v Speaker 1>Of course, everyone on the show is amazing, but.

0:52:45.280 --> 0:52:47.680
<v Speaker 2>I do think that they have lightning in a bottle.

0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:51.120
<v Speaker 2>I think that that the whole cast who they how

0:52:51.160 --> 0:52:53.840
<v Speaker 2>they put it together, and these personalities. But I'll just

0:52:53.840 --> 0:52:56.759
<v Speaker 2>say this from an outsider, because even if I'm in

0:52:56.800 --> 0:53:00.520
<v Speaker 2>the show, I'm still an outsider looking in the season

0:53:00.560 --> 0:53:05.319
<v Speaker 2>finale and off the record, I'll tell you, but yeah,

0:53:05.440 --> 0:53:09.719
<v Speaker 2>I was sitting there just having a dinner with everybody,

0:53:10.680 --> 0:53:13.320
<v Speaker 2>and it's like, all of a sudden Fourth of July happens,

0:53:13.440 --> 0:53:16.120
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, what is fucking going on?

0:53:16.560 --> 0:53:21.040
<v Speaker 3>It's everywhere, It's insanity. It's cam this season, this season, and.

0:53:20.960 --> 0:53:24.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking like I forget that they have cameras even

0:53:24.280 --> 0:53:26.480
<v Speaker 2>around me, and I'm I can't help myself.

0:53:26.520 --> 0:53:29.439
<v Speaker 3>I check out and I start watching like I'm at home.

0:53:29.840 --> 0:53:32.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's unbelievable what they do and they are

0:53:33.440 --> 0:53:35.200
<v Speaker 2>they I really believe.

0:53:34.840 --> 0:53:38.240
<v Speaker 3>That this cast them. It is lighter than a bottle.

0:53:38.320 --> 0:53:41.120
<v Speaker 1>They just have this thing that we're very resilient. I

0:53:41.120 --> 0:53:43.600
<v Speaker 1>think that's why people think that it's scripted, because our

0:53:43.680 --> 0:53:46.400
<v Speaker 1>bounce back is so on point that it's like normal

0:53:46.480 --> 0:53:50.000
<v Speaker 1>people like you sleep with my sorry, sleep with my boyfriend,

0:53:50.040 --> 0:53:53.080
<v Speaker 1>like we're not friends anymore. But this group is like,

0:53:53.520 --> 0:53:55.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get over it. Just give me something.

0:53:56.120 --> 0:53:59.120
<v Speaker 5>So at that age, you're just so messed up and

0:53:59.280 --> 0:54:03.400
<v Speaker 5>you just you know, you just you really do it.

0:54:03.480 --> 0:54:06.600
<v Speaker 2>But it's so real, I know real, and none of

0:54:06.640 --> 0:54:10.080
<v Speaker 2>it I've been I've been around for many years watching her,

0:54:10.360 --> 0:54:13.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, do her thing, and then just recently and

0:54:13.280 --> 0:54:15.360
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you you know, people will come up and

0:54:15.400 --> 0:54:17.920
<v Speaker 2>ask is it scripted? These people wouldn't know how to

0:54:17.960 --> 0:54:19.640
<v Speaker 2>do with the script if you gave it to right,

0:54:19.840 --> 0:54:25.480
<v Speaker 2>it's so raw, insane great that yeah, it's all that.

0:54:26.840 --> 0:54:29.080
<v Speaker 5>You were the greatest gift at the right time with

0:54:29.200 --> 0:54:33.840
<v Speaker 5>that click, just like you know most new cast members.

0:54:33.920 --> 0:54:36.120
<v Speaker 4>You're like, no, no, no, no, no, go mess.

0:54:35.840 --> 0:54:38.480
<v Speaker 1>This up right, like we have a good thing that's not.

0:54:39.160 --> 0:54:41.000
<v Speaker 4>Exactly what we needed at that time.

0:54:41.160 --> 0:54:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh, Catherine, that means so happy. Well, thank you so

0:54:45.280 --> 0:54:48.759
<v Speaker 1>much for all of the compliments and watching the show

0:54:48.800 --> 0:54:50.800
<v Speaker 1>and most importantly being on the podcast today.

0:54:50.800 --> 0:54:54.640
<v Speaker 5>We really appreciate it, you guys, thank you, thank you

0:54:54.640 --> 0:54:55.560
<v Speaker 5>guys for having me.

0:54:55.719 --> 0:54:57.280
<v Speaker 1>Of course we'll talk soon, I hope.

0:54:57.680 --> 0:54:59.120
<v Speaker 4>Okay, call me anytime.

0:54:59.200 --> 0:55:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's how you upon that by baby

0:55:02.480 --> 0:55:02.520
<v Speaker 4>M