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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Jaguars Broadcast We Can Review podcast presented

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Speaker 1: by t I A A Bank JP Shadrick with the

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Speaker 1: best of the week from Jaguars Radio, Jaguars dot Com

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Speaker 1: Let's begin with the reaction of the franchise tag applied

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Speaker 1: to left tackle Cam Robinson. It's a sixteen point six

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Speaker 1: million dollar salary and two if he signs the tender,

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Speaker 1: and Robinson and the Jaguars have until July fifteen to

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Speaker 1: work on a long term deal. If they don't get

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Speaker 1: one done, he plays on that number in twenty two.

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Speaker 1: NFL Network analyst Bucky Brooks and Jaguars dot Com senior

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Speaker 1: writer John Osier on the Huddle Up Podcast Wednesday on

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Speaker 1: the Free I Heart Radio app securing Cam Robinson on

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Speaker 1: the tag and maybe a long term deal. It enables

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Speaker 1: you to kind of free up yourself from having to

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Speaker 1: commit to take an offensive tackle at the top of

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Speaker 1: the board. Um, you still have the opport need to

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Speaker 1: put walk a little in the lineup somewhere, and then

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Speaker 1: maybe you turn your efforts towards getting the pass rusher

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Speaker 1: or another position at the top of the board. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I think we talked about it last week, but um,

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Speaker 1: in trying to sort of predict what they would do,

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Speaker 1: I kept going back to this, and we may have

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Speaker 1: talked about it. It's what may have second my mind

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Speaker 1: the idea that from a GMS perspective, when you're looking

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Speaker 1: at your roster, you've only got X amount of players

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Speaker 1: that you feel like our front line guys. Had you

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Speaker 1: let Cam go, you're taking one drop out of that bucket,

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Speaker 1: if you will, and you've got to fill it back

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Speaker 1: up with another drop, which would probably been in the draft. Well,

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Speaker 1: the idea of of keeping Cam is you keep that

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Speaker 1: in the bucket and then add one more into the bucket. Uh,

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Speaker 1: as the former scout, That's how personnel people think, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean what you're trying to do is you're trying

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Speaker 1: to look at it in team building. You're trying not

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Speaker 1: to do it in an isolated fashion. So what you

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Speaker 1: want to do is you away your options. If I

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Speaker 1: Uh option better than okay, I can take this draft

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Speaker 1: pick and another player. So it's almost like, um, what's

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Speaker 1: the plan? Crisis? Right? Showcase show downtnity, to which one

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Speaker 1: that you want at the end, um, you get you

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Speaker 1: get to figure out which one that you wanted in

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Speaker 1: And so that's what you're doing in the office is

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Speaker 1: you're trying to figure out, Okay, what gives us the

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Speaker 1: best opportunity to hit all the needs and all of

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Speaker 1: the things that we must address for the best personnel.

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Speaker 1: And obviously after doing the evaluation, Cam Robinson was in

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Speaker 1: that picture. Because if you're Doug Peterson and you're trying

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Speaker 1: to figure out what's the best way for us to

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Speaker 1: get this rolling. Do I want to break in a

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Speaker 1: newbie at left tackle? Do I want to go with

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Speaker 1: someone who may have some flaws, but at least I

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Speaker 1: know what those are, and we feel confident enough that

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Speaker 1: maybe we can mask some of those efficiencies while getting

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Speaker 1: the rest of the pieces of the puzzle right. Just

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Speaker 1: remember John to have your pet spade or newter to

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Speaker 1: help control the pep. That's right, That's right, that's right. Um.

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Speaker 1: So now, Bucky, what you know I said last week

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Speaker 1: and I said, ah, off season, this is the most

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Speaker 1: uh intriguing puzzle that I can remember on the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: offensive line. And maybe it's a reflection of the way

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Speaker 1: the league's going in the sense that offensive lineman can

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Speaker 1: play more positions. Now, you know, you see more guys

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Speaker 1: who can play left hand right tackle. But I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure what they're gonna do. I mean, I'm assuming Walker

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean he can play inside? Who are you trying

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Speaker 1: not a left tackle though, right to swing right? Well, um,

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Speaker 1: And let's be honest, how do they view walk a

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Speaker 1: due to the self evaluation and how you really evaluate

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Speaker 1: your team compared to what could be available on free

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Speaker 1: agency and in the draft. Jaguars analyst Jeff Logerman joined

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Speaker 1: me on Jaguars Happy Hour Radio Thursday afternoon on Tin

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Speaker 1: Tin x L for more Cam Robinson discussion. If I'm

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Speaker 1: it because I think it's gonna end up being just like,

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Speaker 1: very similar to last year. It's gonna be a one

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Speaker 1: to do. You think so, First of all, Cam Robinson

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Speaker 1: That's that's not what he is. He's a good he's

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Speaker 1: But he's a he's a starter. He's a starter, and

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Speaker 1: those players are not cheap, and so you want to

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Speaker 1: and when when you're a football team that hasn't won

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Speaker 1: to keep all the best players that you possibly can

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Speaker 1: so that you're not trying to fill holes. I mean,

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Speaker 1: to concentrate on getting better. And the way that you

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Speaker 1: putting the tag on Cam Robinson is the right thing

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Speaker 1: you play a draft pick at guard. Absolutely, Can you

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Speaker 1: at some point there's not a surplus. If you know this,

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Speaker 1: bring different things. The offensive lineman, Evan Neil and Ikey Kuano,

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Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson to me, is a mix of all those things.

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Speaker 1: Like when I talked to him and some of his teammates,

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Speaker 1: I'm getting a very very good player. And then Cabin

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Speaker 1: play hard enough consistently, whether he's maybe more preoccupied with

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Speaker 1: the brand and all of those things. That's it. He's

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Speaker 1: the safest big to me would be Aidan Hudsonson, But

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you could go wrong with the

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