WEBVTT - Why Did Ben Franklin Look Up to Genghis Khan?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, well, well, what's that mango. So did you

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<v Speaker 1>know that Ben Franklin was this huge, huge fan of

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<v Speaker 1>Genghis Khan. I did not. He actually had these books

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<v Speaker 1>about Khan and they were popular during the day, and

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<v Speaker 1>he'd circulated them across the colonies. So Ben Franklin was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of Genghis Khan's book publicist. I guess, like, this

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<v Speaker 1>seems like a pretty niche interest here if you if

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<v Speaker 1>you asked me, yeah, I mean. The funny thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't just Franklin, like, it was a national obsession.

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<v Speaker 1>So like Jefferson, he bought a ton of the copies

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<v Speaker 1>of this book. He gave him to relatives and gifted

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<v Speaker 1>him libraries. George and Martha Washington had the biography and

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<v Speaker 1>Mount Vernon like for some reason that's never mentioned in

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<v Speaker 1>Hamilton's think it is there were even like plays about

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<v Speaker 1>con that were put on stage at the time. But

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<v Speaker 1>this was a super peculiarly American obsession. And people in Europe,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they had some interest in Genghis Khan, but

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the reason it was so popular in the

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<v Speaker 1>US was they were really looking for new non European

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<v Speaker 1>heroes to look up to and also new models of government,

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<v Speaker 1>and weirdly enough, Genghis Khan kind of fit into both

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<v Speaker 1>those categories. But as we poke around his biography, we

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to know how much of a hero was Genghis Khan,

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<v Speaker 1>Like why was he so enamored with a meritocracy? And

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<v Speaker 1>did he really invent the hamburger? So let's dive in

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<v Speaker 1>pay their podcast listeners, Welcome to Part Time Genius. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Will Pearson and as always I'm joined by my good

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<v Speaker 1>friend Mangesh Ticketer and sitting on the other side of

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<v Speaker 1>the soundproof glass wearing yet another perfectly themed shirt. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy nails it every time. That's our friends and

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<v Speaker 1>producer Tristan McNeil. And actually I forget what it says exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you show us, Tristan, it says if Genghis Khan

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<v Speaker 1>sokn you. I mean, you know, it's just spot on

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<v Speaker 1>mango that is so terrible and it almost feels like

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<v Speaker 1>a bad motivational poster. But I have a feeling that's

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<v Speaker 1>not an original Genghis Khan quote. No, I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it is. It feels a little more Tristan,

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<v Speaker 1>if you know what I mean? But what's clear from

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<v Speaker 1>this week's reading is that Genghis Khan didn't need motivational

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<v Speaker 1>phrases or a life coach to get things done. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this was a born go getter. And in roughly two

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<v Speaker 1>and a half decades, Genghis Khan and his army conquered

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<v Speaker 1>more lands and people than the Romans did over a

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred years span. I mean, that is just insane

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<v Speaker 1>to me, like four hundred years of Roman rule and

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<v Speaker 1>and like they didn't accomplish what Genghis Kan did in

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<v Speaker 1>two and a half decades. But you know what's weird

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<v Speaker 1>and Gabe told us to me is that Genghis Khan

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<v Speaker 1>was apparently a really good boss, which is just such

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<v Speaker 1>a funny idea to me, Like, I love the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of Genghis just you know, sitting behind a desk pile

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<v Speaker 1>of paperwork, like sipping from his world's best boss mug.

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<v Speaker 1>But apparently this is true. He had all these progressive policies,

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<v Speaker 1>like um, he granted universal religious freedom, he abolished torture.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh in just about every country the Mongols took over,

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<v Speaker 1>the quality of life actually improved for the citizens. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>as long as they pledged the loyalty to con things

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<v Speaker 1>got better, and that's really what we wanted to get

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<v Speaker 1>to the bottom of that today's show, like who was

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<v Speaker 1>the real Genghis Khan? Was he a super innovative, ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of his time mastermind or or was he just this

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<v Speaker 1>blood thirst deep barbarian who kind of cleverly slaughtered his

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<v Speaker 1>way to the top. Well, before we get into that debate,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we should start with a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a recap on how Genghis rose to power, and

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<v Speaker 1>to do that, I feel like we really need to

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<v Speaker 1>set the scene a little bit. So this may be

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit weird, but Tristan, if you don't mind,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we need a little bit of mood

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<v Speaker 1>music here. So picture life for a twelfth century Mongol

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<v Speaker 1>And at the time there were about a million nomadic

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<v Speaker 1>people living on the Central Asian step and this is

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<v Speaker 1>not too far from the border between modern Mongolia and Siberia.

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<v Speaker 1>And as you might imagine, life was pretty brutal, to

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<v Speaker 1>say the least, and you had dozens of different tribes

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<v Speaker 1>living in the same general area, all vying for these

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<v Speaker 1>same limited resources. That's funny because, like the way you

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<v Speaker 1>described it started out so pastoral and romantic, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it ended kind of like a really terrible game of Katan,

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<v Speaker 1>or like game of Throne. That's exactly what it sounds like.

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<v Speaker 1>But so it was really a terrible time, and because

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<v Speaker 1>of that scarcity, everyone was always drinking and fighting and

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<v Speaker 1>stealing from each other. People were afraid to go out

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<v Speaker 1>after dark, and it was really just a chaotic way

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<v Speaker 1>of life by most accounts, at least, like I read

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<v Speaker 1>that most people slept on top of their weapons just

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<v Speaker 1>in case anyone tried something during the night. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is the world Genghis Khan was born into in the

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<v Speaker 1>early eleven sixties. So according to the myths, he came

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<v Speaker 1>out of his mother clutching a blood clot and his fist,

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<v Speaker 1>which is an odd detail and I don't really know

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what that means, but I guess it was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be a sign that he was destined to be

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<v Speaker 1>a great leader. I love that that's the re sure,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a nice story. But you know, even without

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<v Speaker 1>that blood clot, the boy would have been in line

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<v Speaker 1>for a pretty kush leadership role. So he was the

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<v Speaker 1>son of a Mongol chieftain. He was the head of

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<v Speaker 1>the Borgigan clan, and this was composed of around families,

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<v Speaker 1>and because Asia's feudal system was what it was, it

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<v Speaker 1>favored class and ancestry, and that kind of set Genghis

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<v Speaker 1>up nicely well. And besides, his name was Genghis Khan,

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<v Speaker 1>which literally translated means universal ruler. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a kid with a name like that,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty clear what the plan is. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, that's what the name means. But the boy

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<v Speaker 1>who would be Khan actually didn't go by that name

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<v Speaker 1>until he was already in his forties. Before that, he

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<v Speaker 1>was actually called Timidgen, which was the Mongol word for blacksmith,

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<v Speaker 1>and his dad actually took that name from an enemy

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<v Speaker 1>chief that he'd recently captured, so he was named for

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<v Speaker 1>an enemy. Apparently it was this common practice in Mongol

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<v Speaker 1>culture to name a newborn after some kind of important event,

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<v Speaker 1>like something good that happened recently. So I guess you

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<v Speaker 1>could say that like Timidgen wasn't so much named after

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<v Speaker 1>the father's enemy, but I guess the capture of that enemy,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess that makes a little more sense. It's

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<v Speaker 1>still a little but so if Timidgen's dad was this

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<v Speaker 1>hot shot clan leader and the soldier. Does that mean

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<v Speaker 1>Genghis Khan was basically born into success and just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of expanded the empire because I don't know, I always

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<v Speaker 1>had this thought of him as as being more of

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<v Speaker 1>a self made man. Yeah, me too. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for the most part, Mongol leaders went through the same

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<v Speaker 1>hardships as their people, So it's not like his family

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<v Speaker 1>status really put him on easy street or anything. But

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<v Speaker 1>Genghis's story actually takes a turn for the worst before

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<v Speaker 1>things start to go really well for him. So, when

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<v Speaker 1>Timidgin was just nine years old, his father was poisoned

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<v Speaker 1>to death by assassins from Arrival Klan, and since he

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<v Speaker 1>was so young, Timiden wasn't given the chance to take

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<v Speaker 1>over for his father obviously, you know, like a nine

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<v Speaker 1>year old is not going to lead however many people.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, instead of being able to live among

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<v Speaker 1>the tribe, the clan kind of saw his family as

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<v Speaker 1>a burden now and that they'd have to be responsible

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<v Speaker 1>for feeding and housing. So instead Timagen, along with his

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<v Speaker 1>mother and their six siblings were banished from their own clan. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean this is honestly, it feels like the start

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<v Speaker 1>of I don't know, like a good superhero origin story.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's because I saw the recent Spider Man movie,

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<v Speaker 1>but that just just feels that's coming, yeah, into the

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<v Speaker 1>Genghas verse. But you know, things don't get easier for

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<v Speaker 1>Genghas here. Like during his teenage years, they're spent mostly

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<v Speaker 1>hunting and foraging with his family. There's this really low

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<v Speaker 1>point in their situation where Timidgen actually murders his older

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<v Speaker 1>half brother because his brother isn't sharing the limited food

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<v Speaker 1>they have. I mean, that's how bleak things get. And

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<v Speaker 1>then after facing his mother and grappling with what he'd done, somehow,

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<v Speaker 1>things even get worse for Timidgen. So while foraging for food,

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<v Speaker 1>he gets captured and enslaved by the same clan that

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<v Speaker 1>had banished him a few years earlier. Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you think about abandoning his family being bad enough,

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<v Speaker 1>But but what happened though? He must have escaped at

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<v Speaker 1>some point, yeah, I mean pretty soon after his capture

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<v Speaker 1>he got away, and it was kind of this morale boost,

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<v Speaker 1>strangely for him, because after that he decided he was

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<v Speaker 1>strong enough to return to society, and now he had

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a chip on his shoulder, so he decided

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<v Speaker 1>to go in and asked to marry the woman that

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<v Speaker 1>had been betrothed to them just before his father's death.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of a confusing image though, like so he

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<v Speaker 1>just storms back into the village and makes these demands

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<v Speaker 1>and does that work or what? Yeah, So this is

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<v Speaker 1>actually where things start to turn around for Timigen. So

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<v Speaker 1>he convinces the tribe leader to honor this old agreement

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<v Speaker 1>with his father, and Timidgen's allowed to marry the chief's

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<v Speaker 1>daughter named Borte, And now Timidgen's honor is more or

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<v Speaker 1>less restored. He kind of has a place in society again.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, you know, this is ancient Mongolia we're talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>so so things don't stay that peaceful for long. Pretty

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<v Speaker 1>soon after the wedding, this rival tribe goes on a

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<v Speaker 1>raid and during the scuffle, Timidgen's bride is kidnapped and

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<v Speaker 1>carried away on horseback. But it's like they can't get

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<v Speaker 1>a break, like nothing is easy in this cult where

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like I know, and and he's he's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like the ziggy of Mongols like that thinks keep

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<v Speaker 1>happening to him. But this ends up being like the

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<v Speaker 1>last straw for Timogen. So right then, like backing down,

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<v Speaker 1>he rallies some friends and he rides out and he

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<v Speaker 1>rescues Borte, and he kind of realized he's good at this.

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<v Speaker 1>And and with those connections established and he's got this win,

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<v Speaker 1>he starts to form alliances and then he attracts more followers,

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<v Speaker 1>and over the course of the next few years, this

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<v Speaker 1>just keeps growing and growing, and he gradually consolidates all

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<v Speaker 1>the various nomadic tribes one by one, until in twelve

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<v Speaker 1>o five when Timodgen best the very last of his rivals,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's now looking for more things to do, and

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<v Speaker 1>and at this point, like the Mongols really have established

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<v Speaker 1>their leadership, Like he's toppled the entire structure that I've

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<v Speaker 1>been there before. The step tribes are all united for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time in history, and honestly, everything is about

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<v Speaker 1>to change. And the following year, Timogen calls together representatives

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<v Speaker 1>from every part of the region, and once they're gathered,

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<v Speaker 1>he informs them there now all part of this brand

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<v Speaker 1>new nation. It's going to be organized by these universal laws.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be overseen by a universal ruler him

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<v Speaker 1>And at the end of the meeting, Timagen has proclaimed

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<v Speaker 1>Chengis Khan, or the universal Ruler, and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in the West this gets translated as Genghis Khan. Al Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So just to kind of wrap my head around this

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing, I mentioned that we're about a million people

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<v Speaker 1>living on the step when Khan came to power. So

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, the prince, turned outcast, turned slave

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<v Speaker 1>is now in charge of a million people. Is this right? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>It is this miraculous return to grace. And and you

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<v Speaker 1>know he really meant it when he came out of

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<v Speaker 1>the womb clutching that blood clout, I guess, because that

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<v Speaker 1>was just the start of it. But uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with the tribe United, con spent the next two decades

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<v Speaker 1>just growing and growing this empire. And at the peak

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<v Speaker 1>of his power, the Mongol leader controlled roughly twelve million

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<v Speaker 1>contiguous square miles, which was more than twice as much

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<v Speaker 1>land as any other person before or since. And at

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<v Speaker 1>the heart of that conquest was this ferocious but highly

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<v Speaker 1>disciplined Mongol army composed of just a hundred thousand men.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious to like, how could such a small army

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<v Speaker 1>conquered that much territory? Like, I know it happened, but

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<v Speaker 1>it really feels impossible. Yeah, and I think it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have been possible for most countries. But that's really where

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<v Speaker 1>Genghis Khan's genius comes in. Like the innovations he brought

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<v Speaker 1>to society and warfare really made it possible for his

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<v Speaker 1>people not only to conquer an empire, but to run

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<v Speaker 1>it effectively once the fighting was done. And so what

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<v Speaker 1>kind of innovations are we talking about? Like, what what

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<v Speaker 1>did Genghas do differently that made his reign so successful?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean all kinds of things, but I'd say one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most important was the way he dealt with

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<v Speaker 1>the people in the places he conquered. Like his whole

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<v Speaker 1>focus was expansion. He wanted to extend his empire and

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<v Speaker 1>grow his hoard, and that meant that wholesale slaughter was

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<v Speaker 1>really out of the question. And that doesn't mean he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't kill people. He killed plenty of people. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>that his army always needed new recruits, and any nation

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<v Speaker 1>that was conquered had plenty of them waiting in the way.

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<v Speaker 1>The only catch was that these people would have to

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<v Speaker 1>be treated well enough that they wouldn't mind joining forces

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<v Speaker 1>with him and also bending the need in So how

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<v Speaker 1>did he make these people convert? Well, once he conquered

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<v Speaker 1>a nation, he killed the leaders on the spot, but

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<v Speaker 1>he had kind of like a weird justification for that,

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<v Speaker 1>like he thought those kings and royals or chieftains like

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<v Speaker 1>they all deserved it for leading their people into a

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<v Speaker 1>war they couldn't win. And then he also killed off

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<v Speaker 1>the wealthy ruling class because on one hand he considered

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<v Speaker 1>them soft, but he also figured he could never really

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<v Speaker 1>win their loyalty anyway. But everyone else, if they surrendered,

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<v Speaker 1>they were spared, and anyone with useful skills was allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to stay and essentially carry on with their lives pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much as usual, though now with sort of greater security.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was for really any type of skills, so

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<v Speaker 1>like basket weavers and and those with ability to write

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<v Speaker 1>were essentially as valued as those who farmed or forged weapons.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So what about the conquered citizens who didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have certain skills, Like, what would happen to these people? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they were spared as well. They were typically

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<v Speaker 1>forced into labor or or sometimes used as human chields

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<v Speaker 1>in the army's next battle, which was I'm sure, a

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<v Speaker 1>little less appealing for them. It's kind of a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a mixed bag for these people. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you might have been progressive, but he was still, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a con but uh um, you know, Genghis was still

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<v Speaker 1>this incredibly harsh and violent guy when he had to be.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we get into the mass murder and the

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<v Speaker 1>city burning, I do want to spend a little more

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<v Speaker 1>time building the case for Khan as a great progressive. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see what you come up with,

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<v Speaker 1>but first, let's take a quick break. You're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>Part Time Genius and we're talking about the softer side

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<v Speaker 1>of Genghis Khan. At least I think that's what we're

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<v Speaker 1>about to talk about. Yeah, it almost feels like a

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<v Speaker 1>Hallmark movie, right, it should be all right? Well, migo,

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<v Speaker 1>before the break, you were playing devil's advocate for Khan

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<v Speaker 1>and laying out some of the surprisingly tolerant views he

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<v Speaker 1>had held. But do you do you want to give

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<v Speaker 1>us a few more examples of him. Yeah, definitely, so again,

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<v Speaker 1>so much of what he did differently came down to

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<v Speaker 1>how he treated his subjects, and those were really not

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<v Speaker 1>just his own people, but the people from the conquered territories. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>he knew that if he kept people happy, they'd be

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<v Speaker 1>less likely to rebel, and his empire would continue to

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<v Speaker 1>grow as a result. So with that in mind, Khan

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<v Speaker 1>created universal laws aimed at keeping the peace and preventing

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<v Speaker 1>the infighting that had previously plagued his tribe. So first

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<v Speaker 1>and foremost, he granted religious freedom to everyone under his rule.

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<v Speaker 1>This was super crucial because so many of his followers

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<v Speaker 1>practice completely different religions. So within his ranks you'd find Jews, Christians, Muslims, Buddhist, Taoists,

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<v Speaker 1>and and even people who followed animistic traditions like the

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<v Speaker 1>shamanism Genghis Khan himself practiced. And then his new regions

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<v Speaker 1>fell to the Mongol invaders, religious representation within a hoard

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<v Speaker 1>became more and more diverse. But you know, con didn't

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<v Speaker 1>stopped just that tolerance. He he also rewarded piety by

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<v Speaker 1>exempting religious personnel and places of worship from paying taxes,

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<v Speaker 1>which is kind of a huge boon. And he also

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<v Speaker 1>exempted any person whose profession contributed to the common goods.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you think about it, like these are people

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<v Speaker 1>like teachers, doctors, undertakers, all of them were exempt as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, you know, as we mentioned earlier, Genghis also

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<v Speaker 1>outlawed other traditional practices at the time, like torturing prisoners, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>kidnapping women, and taking other Mongols as servants or slaves.

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<v Speaker 1>And as you might have noticed, that some of those

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<v Speaker 1>decisions drew directly from his own life experiences. So his

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<v Speaker 1>wife had been kidnapped, he himself had been slaved as

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<v Speaker 1>a teenager, and all this taught him firsthand that you

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<v Speaker 1>can't really build a healthy community or economy when fellow

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<v Speaker 1>citizens are living in bondage. Wow. I mean, those are

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<v Speaker 1>great examples, and I feel like you make a compelling

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<v Speaker 1>point here. But there was one example that I thought

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<v Speaker 1>you would include here, one of really I think his

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<v Speaker 1>biggest achievements, and that is, of course, that he devised

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<v Speaker 1>one of the first international postal systems in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was basically an early version of the Pony Express.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. So here's a breakdown that actually saw on

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<v Speaker 1>history dot com. I thought it would just read it directly,

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<v Speaker 1>so it says one of his earliest decrees as con

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<v Speaker 1>involved the formation of a mounted courier service known as

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<v Speaker 1>the Yam. This medieval express consisted of a well organized

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<v Speaker 1>series of post houses and way stations strung across the

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<v Speaker 1>whole empire. By stopping to rest or take on a

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<v Speaker 1>fresh mount every few miles, official writers could often travel

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<v Speaker 1>as far as two hundred miles a day. The system

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<v Speaker 1>allowed goods and information to travel with unprecedented speed, but

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<v Speaker 1>also acted as the eyes and ears of the con

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to the Am, Genghis could easily keep abreast of

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<v Speaker 1>military and political developments and maintain contact with his extensive

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<v Speaker 1>network of spies and scouts. I love that it's called

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<v Speaker 1>Yam first off, that feels like such a weird, fun branding,

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<v Speaker 1>But I I think you're right that is way too

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<v Speaker 1>cool to leave out, especially since it's such a great

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<v Speaker 1>example of like advantages that Khan's army had over other people.

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<v Speaker 1>And speaking of advantage is one of my favorite things

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<v Speaker 1>about Genghis Kan's leadership style is the way he used

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<v Speaker 1>his army's diversity as a strength. Like if you remember

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<v Speaker 1>all those skilled workers they accumulated from fallen cities, you

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<v Speaker 1>know he had brought in these engineers, craftsmen, experts on

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<v Speaker 1>everything from like Chinese metallurgy to um to Arabian mathematicians.

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<v Speaker 1>And because Khan put all religions and cultures on the

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<v Speaker 1>same equal footing, he was able to wield this big

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<v Speaker 1>melting pot of international expertise however he wanted, which is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>But what did he do with this? Exactly? Like, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like the Mongols mostly fought on horseback with bow

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<v Speaker 1>and arrows, So how do you improve on that? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that archer approach worked really well early, and

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<v Speaker 1>so when enemy is retreated behind city walls, Mongols could

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<v Speaker 1>just aim higher and pepper them with arrows until they surrendered.

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<v Speaker 1>But it got harder and harder as word got out,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, the nations started building up their defenses,

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<v Speaker 1>walls got taller and stronger. It became clear that Mongols

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<v Speaker 1>would have to like change their tactics, and that's where

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<v Speaker 1>the fleet of engineers and craftsmen really come in. So

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<v Speaker 1>pretty soon the Mongols were catapulting these iron balls filled

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<v Speaker 1>with gunpowder over the walls or just straight up tearing

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<v Speaker 1>down the walls with grappling hooks, and on at least

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<v Speaker 1>one occasion, the army diverted the flow of an entire

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<v Speaker 1>river as a way to flood a walled city and

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<v Speaker 1>force the people out. Isn't the insane It really is.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you look back at this and you think,

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<v Speaker 1>not only is he building this huge and sweeping empire,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's also changing the face of warfare. In the

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<v Speaker 1>process of all of this exactly. But beyond all these tactics,

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<v Speaker 1>Con also changed the way armies were structured and ranked.

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<v Speaker 1>So in the past, Mongol armies had been organized according

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<v Speaker 1>to the same feudal system that governed society as a whole.

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<v Speaker 1>Officers were appointed and promoted based on which class they

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<v Speaker 1>belonged to or who they were related to. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>Genghis Khan was having none of this right, he had

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<v Speaker 1>this traumatic childhood experience, so that really showed him the

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<v Speaker 1>flaws of the system. So, rather than perpetuating something he

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<v Speaker 1>saw and had experienced as broken, Con decided to up

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<v Speaker 1>end that too, and he started promoting his officers based

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<v Speaker 1>on individual merit and skill. And this setup, which feels

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<v Speaker 1>kind of obvious and almost American, you can see why

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<v Speaker 1>all those founding fathers liked him. It really made his

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<v Speaker 1>soldiers work harder to distinguish themselves, since all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden they felt like they had this chance to improve

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<v Speaker 1>their standing and it was on them to do it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually reading this week about how Khan was

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<v Speaker 1>a big fan of meritocracy, which we kind of alluded

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<v Speaker 1>to earlier. But you know, it makes sense when you

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<v Speaker 1>look back at how he had to prove himself to

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<v Speaker 1>his fellow tribe members. But I feel like the clearest

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<v Speaker 1>example of his philosophy is from this early encounter his

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<v Speaker 1>army had with a rival tribe. So this enemy archer

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<v Speaker 1>managed to shoot down Genghis Khan's horse in the heat

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<v Speaker 1>of battle, and when the horse fell, it nearly killed

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<v Speaker 1>Khan on its way down. And in the end, the

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<v Speaker 1>Mongols were victorious and the opposing soldiers were all taken prisoner.

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<v Speaker 1>And so at this point Genghis demands to know who

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<v Speaker 1>the archer was that had shot his horse. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows if he actually expected anybody to raise their

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<v Speaker 1>hand and kind of cop to it. But he might

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<v Speaker 1>have just been looking for an excuse to punish all

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<v Speaker 1>of them. I guess, at least that's what I would

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<v Speaker 1>have thought if I were in that position. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is Genghis Khan we're talking about. But anyway, at any rate,

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<v Speaker 1>after a pause, one soldier steps forward and admits to

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<v Speaker 1>having shot the arrow. And this kind of bravery actually

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<v Speaker 1>catches Genghis off guard, so rather than having the man

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<v Speaker 1>killed where he stood, Genghis immediately pardons him and makes

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<v Speaker 1>him a ranking officer in his army. In fact, contakes

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<v Speaker 1>to the guy so well that he even gives him

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<v Speaker 1>one of those callback nicknames like he had when he

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<v Speaker 1>was a kid. So what do you mean, like he

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<v Speaker 1>he gets a name like almost shot me or something.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really not far from that. kN actually started calling

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<v Speaker 1>him jeb A, which means arrow. And yeah, you might

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<v Speaker 1>assume that being renamed by a conquering warlord would rub

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<v Speaker 1>this guy the wrong way, but Jeb didn't mind one bit.

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<v Speaker 1>He remained loyal to Khan throughout his life and eventually

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<v Speaker 1>became one of his most successful and respected field commanders.

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<v Speaker 1>And in this entire vast army, Oh Jeffy, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>surprised we don't hear that name more often. Well, don't

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<v Speaker 1>sing his praises too much. Remember, being an effective general

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<v Speaker 1>really just means he was super good at killing people,

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of people. Sure, So, now that we've

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<v Speaker 1>covered what a tolerant, unifying statesman genghas Khan was we

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<v Speaker 1>should probably address the pile of dead elephants in the

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<v Speaker 1>room and talk about just how bloody his rise to

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<v Speaker 1>power really was. Yeah, I mean, the progressive policies were

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<v Speaker 1>great and all, but it's hard to get around the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that Genghis Khan was also responsible for the deaths

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<v Speaker 1>of as many as forty million people. So I I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't realize the head count was actually that high. The

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<v Speaker 1>official number is forty million people. I mean, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>official numbers, not like anybody was keeping track out on

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<v Speaker 1>the battlefield or anything like that. But the best guess

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<v Speaker 1>according to historians is that somewhere around forty million people

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<v Speaker 1>were killed during Genghis Khan's conquest of Asia and of

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<v Speaker 1>course Europe. I mean that is staggering. So how are

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<v Speaker 1>they getting that sort of number if there's no written record. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no written record from the battles, but that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean there are no records at all. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 1>actually have details sensus reports from the Middle Ages, and

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<v Speaker 1>those show that the population of China dropped by tens

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<v Speaker 1>of millions during Khan's lifetime. So when you add up

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<v Speaker 1>all the circumstantial evidence, it's likely that the Mongols rampage

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<v Speaker 1>reduced as much as eleven percent of the entire world population.

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<v Speaker 1>That is horrific. I feel like I can't even wrap

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<v Speaker 1>my head around that amount of carnage. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's definitely a lot to process. But on the bright side, though,

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<v Speaker 1>there are these studies that show that something like point

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<v Speaker 1>five percent of the global population is descended from Genghis Khan.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess you could make the case that he

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<v Speaker 1>indirectly replaced all these lives that he took. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think you could really say that makes up for

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<v Speaker 1>too much. What a hot take to make that case.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, you know, instead, let's take another quick break

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<v Speaker 1>and then when we come back, let's talk about how

0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Genghis Khan might have affected climate change. Okay, well, so

0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:35.119
<v Speaker 1>was Genghis Khan a blood thirsty tyrant or was he

0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:39.439
<v Speaker 1>a progressive champion of the people? We need your take. Well,

0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:40.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, at the end of the day, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>been thinking about this, I'd have to say my answer

0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:46.920
<v Speaker 1>is a resounding yes. Sure, So yes to both. I'm

0:23:46.960 --> 0:23:49.399
<v Speaker 1>guessing yes to both. I mean, I don't know what

0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:51.960
<v Speaker 1>the other conclusion you could draw, really, I mean, on

0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:55.480
<v Speaker 1>the one hand, he was tolerant of other religions, other cultures,

0:23:56.480 --> 0:24:00.080
<v Speaker 1>relatively kind to women and prisoners, a staunch defender of

0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:02.680
<v Speaker 1>the rule of law. I mean, his life as the

0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:06.000
<v Speaker 1>underdog story for the ages. And it just so happens

0:24:06.040 --> 0:24:09.640
<v Speaker 1>that this really innovative and inspirational figure was also a

0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:11.920
<v Speaker 1>mass murderer, like the likes of which the world had

0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:16.560
<v Speaker 1>never seen before and honestly hopefully we'll never see again. Yeah,

0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:19.639
<v Speaker 1>he's definitely a difficult figure to pin down, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in my mind, there are some things that do come

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<v Speaker 1>across as kind of tough but fair. Like his laws

0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:27.960
<v Speaker 1>are incredibly harsh, but he does seem to like abide

0:24:27.960 --> 0:24:31.240
<v Speaker 1>by them and enforce them in equal measure, which, if

0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:34.840
<v Speaker 1>you look at like Europe and other places, his peers

0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:37.159
<v Speaker 1>aren't doing this, Like they play fast and loose with

0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:41.400
<v Speaker 1>laws and they rarely hold themselves or their friends accountable. Yeah,

0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:42.919
<v Speaker 1>that's a good point. I mean. Another thing is that

0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:46.919
<v Speaker 1>from everything I've read, Khan also seemed to be unfailingly loyal.

0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Like as you were saying before, he was of course

0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:52.040
<v Speaker 1>loyal to the law itself, but he was also loyal

0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:55.080
<v Speaker 1>to soldiers and to the people who followed him. So,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, Ginghis Khan is often thought to be one

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<v Speaker 1>of the richest people in history, if not the richest,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's mostly because of the sheer quantity of land

0:25:03.440 --> 0:25:05.639
<v Speaker 1>that he possessed, I mean, those twelve million or so

0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:08.600
<v Speaker 1>acres that we were talking about before. But the thing is,

0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:11.359
<v Speaker 1>Kant never kept all the money and riches that he

0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:15.760
<v Speaker 1>won through the conquest for himself. Instead, he redistributed all

0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:18.240
<v Speaker 1>that wealth to his people, thereby ensuring that it would

0:25:18.240 --> 0:25:21.879
<v Speaker 1>go right back into growing the nation's economy. And he

0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:24.359
<v Speaker 1>didn't just do that for the soldiers and craftsmen either,

0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:27.119
<v Speaker 1>like even widows and orphans were given a share of

0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:29.679
<v Speaker 1>the spoils. So in the end, here was a ruler

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<v Speaker 1>who never built himself a palace, never ordered a monument

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<v Speaker 1>to be built in his honor, and instead he made

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<v Speaker 1>sure that the weakest and most vulnerable members of the

0:25:37.920 --> 0:25:41.920
<v Speaker 1>community were all provided for. And yet for all that good,

0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:43.960
<v Speaker 1>there was still a lot of blood and death. I mean,

0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:46.480
<v Speaker 1>he's definitely president of contradictions. I mean, you know what's

0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:48.520
<v Speaker 1>funny is that you hear about Genghis Khan and even

0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:51.439
<v Speaker 1>though I knew how wide his empire was, I rarely

0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:54.600
<v Speaker 1>compared it to Julius Caesar and Alexander the Great. I mean,

0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:57.240
<v Speaker 1>both of these guys. He really puts the shame, to

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<v Speaker 1>be honest. Yeah, you know, one thing I hadn't realized

0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:03.000
<v Speaker 1>was that there was this concerned effort from the Soviets

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<v Speaker 1>to stamp out the memory of Genghis Khan. And it

0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:08.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of sounds weird now because modern day Mongolia is

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<v Speaker 1>right next door to Russia, but you know, Mongolians revere

0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Khan as kind of a national hero and founding father

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:18.520
<v Speaker 1>all sort of rolled into one. But in the early

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<v Speaker 1>twentieth century, when the region was still under Soviet rule,

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<v Speaker 1>it was illegal to even mention the name Genghis Khan.

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't just his name that was taboo either,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the Soviets also removed con story from their textbooks,

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<v Speaker 1>their history books. They it made it a crime to

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<v Speaker 1>visit his birthplace. It was insane. Wow. So the Mongols

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<v Speaker 1>really did a number on Russia. I mean, if you

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:39.479
<v Speaker 1>think about all of those centuries later, they were still

0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:43.240
<v Speaker 1>insecure about this defeat. Yeah, I mean, the crackdown was

0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:46.480
<v Speaker 1>definitely fueled apart by hard feelings, but the bigger concern

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:49.040
<v Speaker 1>was that the memories of Khan's conquest would ignite a

0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:52.320
<v Speaker 1>sense of nationalism in the Mongolians, and the Soviets really

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:55.160
<v Speaker 1>wanted to like keep their thumb on the population, so

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:57.360
<v Speaker 1>it was kind of in their best interest to race

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<v Speaker 1>any connection to a hero or a figure who might

0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:03.880
<v Speaker 1>be inspirational to the Mongolians and give them any ideas

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:06.520
<v Speaker 1>of independence. Yeah. But once the Cold War ended and

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:09.360
<v Speaker 1>the Soviet Union fell in the early nineties, Mongolia did,

0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:12.680
<v Speaker 1>of course become a sovereign nation again, that's right. And

0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 1>when it did, the history of Genghis Khan was restored.

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:17.280
<v Speaker 1>And of course he's been a huge part of the

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:20.240
<v Speaker 1>art and culture in Mongolia ever since. In fact, CON's

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:23.879
<v Speaker 1>faces even featured on Mongolian currency. All right, So what

0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:26.639
<v Speaker 1>about outside of Asia? Like, why do so many people

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:29.320
<v Speaker 1>in Europe and the States have such a limited view

0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 1>of Khan's accomplishments. I mean, I think a lot of

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:35.680
<v Speaker 1>it comes down to this idea that Mongols were really

0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:39.280
<v Speaker 1>barbaric and savage. But there are a lot of historians

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 1>out there who have made it their mission to set

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:43.119
<v Speaker 1>the record straight on Genghis Khan, and and chief among

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:46.400
<v Speaker 1>them is is this anthropology professor and this author named

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Jack Weatherford. He's written multiple books on the life and

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:52.440
<v Speaker 1>exploits of Genghis Khan, and much of his work focuses

0:27:52.480 --> 0:27:55.320
<v Speaker 1>on the duality we've been talking about today. But you know,

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:57.199
<v Speaker 1>thanks to his efforts, a lot of people have this

0:27:57.359 --> 0:28:00.760
<v Speaker 1>much fuller picture of who Genghas Khan was. And as

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:04.960
<v Speaker 1>a nice bonus, books have actually helped Mongolia's economy. Apparently

0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:07.600
<v Speaker 1>tourism there has more than tripled in the decades since

0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:10.480
<v Speaker 1>his first book on Genghis was published. Wow, and does

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:13.760
<v Speaker 1>he have a theory for wa Genghis isn't more celebrated. Yeah,

0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 1>he does. I Actually, I've got a quote right here,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is from an interview he did two years

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 1>ago with the History News Network. So in it he says, quote,

0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 1>contrary to common myth and cliche, history is written not

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:28.560
<v Speaker 1>necessarily by the victors, but by those who hold the

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 1>deepest grudges. The so called civilized world, Europe, the Middle East,

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:36.720
<v Speaker 1>in China was not only defeated by, but humiliated by

0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:41.040
<v Speaker 1>its conquest by people whom they considered inferior barbarians. For

0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 1>a long time, we have been unable to accept that

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 1>an Asian conqueror might have something to teach us. Still today,

0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:49.800
<v Speaker 1>it is time to reconsider that legacy of Genghis Khan.

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<v Speaker 1>To label him an environmentalist, feminist, liberal, or democrat would

0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:57.720
<v Speaker 1>be silly and anachronistic. He was a conqueror, but he

0:28:57.800 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 1>was also more a man of the future than the past,

0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:02.560
<v Speaker 1>because we still not have been able to fulfill his

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 1>vision of a just world. I mean, it's it's weird.

0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:08.440
<v Speaker 1>I never would have guessed that Genghis Khan's vision was

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 1>something to aspire to, but here we are. I mean,

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I guess in the end, it all goes back to

0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Tristan's T shirt. Like, if the world is heading in

0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 1>the wrong direction and you don't feel like finding any

0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 1>longer to try and make it right, just remember if

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Genghis Khan so kanu thanks Tristan. Yeah, truly words to

0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:28.280
<v Speaker 1>live by. But before any of you go out and

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 1>change the world, we still got a few great facts

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 1>to cover, so let's do this fact. One of the

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 1>weird things about Genghis Khan is that no one knows

0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 1>where he was buried. He he wanted to be placed

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 1>in an unmarked grave. And there are all these theories

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 1>of the people who buried him being killed so that

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:54.960
<v Speaker 1>the secret died with them. There's another story that his

0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:57.800
<v Speaker 1>engineers diverted a river over his grave to cover it up.

0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 1>But whatever they did, it worked because even now this

0:30:01.680 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 1>many centuries later, we still don't know where his body

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:07.760
<v Speaker 1>is actually. Speaking of devoting rivers, apparently it was a

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 1>favorite trick of Genghis. After vanquishing one enemy, he diverted

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 1>a river through the enemy's birthplace so that it would

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:18.440
<v Speaker 1>be totally erased from the maps. So here's a fun one.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know that one of the world's hardest horse

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 1>races is directly inspired by Genghis Khan. Apparently as part

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 1>of the Mongol derby, writers try to stay on these

0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 1>half wild Mongols horses as they raced along Genghis's old

0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 1>postal route, which was over six miles long. That's pretty cool.

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 1>One of the things we really didn't touch. I mean,

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:40.719
<v Speaker 1>we mentioned that forty million number, but we really didn't

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 1>touch on how brutal Khan could be. So after defeating

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:47.320
<v Speaker 1>a Russian army, he and the Mongols forced the Russian

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:50.560
<v Speaker 1>army to lie on the ground and they basically threw

0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:53.280
<v Speaker 1>a party on top of them, like they put this

0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 1>giant wooden gate, then chairs and tables, then feasted and

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 1>danced on their enemies, cru shing them beneath. I know

0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:02.920
<v Speaker 1>we usually like to keep it kind of light and

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<v Speaker 1>the fact off, but I felt like I had to

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:09.040
<v Speaker 1>mention this one. But how horrible is that? That is horrific?

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:11.120
<v Speaker 1>You know. I feel like it's almost like when my

0:31:11.160 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 1>mom used to kill an ant in the kitchen and

0:31:12.800 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 1>then leave it there as a warning to all the

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 1>other ants to see you. Both my mom and Genghis

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:21.479
<v Speaker 1>Khan like to send a message. You know. Here's one

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 1>of the weirder theories I read about this week. The

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Guardian had the story that because Khan killed so many

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:30.960
<v Speaker 1>millions of people, he was actually an unintentional eco warrior.

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Raid supposedly resulted in man made climate change cooling the

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 1>planet and possibly scrubbing seven metric tons of C O

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 1>two from the atmosphere. Yeah, I'm not sure I can

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:45.160
<v Speaker 1>get behind that argument. But that's that's pretty well well,

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:47.400
<v Speaker 1>I will say. I know we've shared some pretty terrible

0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:50.560
<v Speaker 1>things about Genghis Khan, but one thing that does really

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:53.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of redeem him, to be honest, is the spread

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 1>of the Hamburger. So nat g O and first we

0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Fees both trace the big mac back to Khan and

0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:03.000
<v Speaker 1>his squad. And that's because Mongolians would carry meat under

0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 1>their saddles to transport on the go, and this would

0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 1>tend arise the food. And they brought this technique to

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Russia they started eating steak tartar and from there it

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:14.960
<v Speaker 1>past to Germany where people started making these hamburg steaks,

0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:16.880
<v Speaker 1>and of course you fast forward from there and it

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:19.800
<v Speaker 1>was finally slapped on buns and ordered animal style at

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:23.480
<v Speaker 1>in and outs. I really hope someone comes up with

0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:25.960
<v Speaker 1>like a new fast food chain called Genghis Is for

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 1>you wait like three yards from the restaurant and they

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:33.880
<v Speaker 1>just pony expressed that's a good thing. So good. But uh,

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:36.440
<v Speaker 1>I do think you take the prize today. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>before we go, I I did want to give a

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 1>special shout out to my wonderful sister in law. Even

0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:45.080
<v Speaker 1>though I've got this terrible voice, it's it's sincere Laura Cravis.

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 1>She's one of the world's best teachers. And if your

0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:48.720
<v Speaker 1>kid is lucky enough to have her, your kids are

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna fall in love with history and reading and learned

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 1>so much but you know, not only has she been

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:55.680
<v Speaker 1>a big champion for mental floss over the years, but

0:32:56.320 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 1>essentially since the first time I've met her, she's been

0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:00.360
<v Speaker 1>telling me how we should do an article on Gangs Khan,

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 1>or an issue one Genghis Khan, or make Genghis Khan

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 1>t shirts or poster her. She's been such a supporter

0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 1>and I never did any of it, so all this

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 1>years later, this episode for her. Oh, we're a little

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<v Speaker 1>late on the execution here, I think that thank you

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 1>for listening to our little show. If you have thoughts

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:18.080
<v Speaker 1>or comments, hit us up at part time genius at

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<v Speaker 1>from Gabe, Tristan, Mango, and me, thanks so much for listening.