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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys

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Speaker 1: on there war room for in center news and draft

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Speaker 1: analysis from deep within the confines of Cowboys headquarters at

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Speaker 1: the Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Selectio Elliot and now

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Speaker 1: your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman, and Brian brought us.

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Speaker 1: But we welcome you to the SWBC Mortgage Studios. You

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Speaker 1: do have the Draft Show. Brian brought us, Dan Brugler,

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Speaker 1: David Hellman, Kate Garrison Executive producing. Today. We are full

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Speaker 1: on in the middle of free agency going on right now,

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Speaker 1: players being signed, released, big time players. How does that

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Speaker 1: affect what we're about to see in this NFL drafting again?

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Speaker 1: Forty two days, Yeah, forty two days. I'm really again

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Speaker 1: happy to have my guys here to kind of talk

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Speaker 1: about what direction I initially want to go with that.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about that and also want to

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Speaker 1: get into though, you know, we have this philosophy. I'm

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Speaker 1: an old scout, you know, nineteen ninety two. Dane is

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Speaker 1: a young scout, but an old scouted heart. With some

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Speaker 1: of his thoughts and with some of these signings and stuff,

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Speaker 1: I want to get into maybe talk about that a

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Speaker 1: little bit later about does our ideas change about when

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Speaker 1: guys need to be taken or not? And I know

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Speaker 1: I always fight with you guys about drafting guards and

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Speaker 1: stuff like that when you do that, but I want

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Speaker 1: to ask some questions about if things change, you know,

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Speaker 1: if your philosophy. Do we always seeing a shift in

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Speaker 1: scouting philosophy when it pertains to some of these positions

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Speaker 1: that we really didn't feel like was going to be.

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Speaker 1: You know, like I remember, Chris Niolie, I told you

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Speaker 1: this earlier. New Orleans Saints drafted a guard tenth overall,

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Speaker 1: I want to say, and that that to me was shocking.

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Speaker 1: You know, as far as that goes today, that doesn't

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Speaker 1: bother me. I know it. I know it kind of

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Speaker 1: it goes against the norm of drafting. But I want

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Speaker 1: to get into that later. But as we look at

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Speaker 1: the landscape of free agency in the way it's going

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Speaker 1: right now, I'm looking at teams for the Cowboys perspective, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you've got all those quarterbacks we're talking about, can you

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Speaker 1: drive players down that board? That's gonna be the key.

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Speaker 1: Is there somebody gonna be coming down that board that

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Speaker 1: we didn't see? Quarterback teams that took ahead of you,

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals, they signed Sam Bradford. That's a pick at

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Speaker 1: you at fifteen. Sam Bradford help you? Or does that?

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Speaker 1: Does the Arizona do they still need to draft a

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Speaker 1: quarterback at fifteen? If one's there, I'm gonna go out

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Speaker 1: on a limb and say, the only quarterback needy team

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Speaker 1: in the league that now is not quarterback needy is Minnesota. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they gave they gave Kirk Cousins all the money in

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Speaker 1: the world. I don't I can't imagine them spending a

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Speaker 1: big time draft asset on a quarterback, but literally everyone

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Speaker 1: else you're talking and stop gaps. I mean Case Keenum

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Speaker 1: and Denver, Okay, but if I agree that's the only

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Speaker 1: one where well, but I would even say, I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you love a quarterback at five or you think

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Speaker 1: you can get I mean Case Keenum isn't enough and

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Speaker 1: I don't think they paid him enough where if they

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Speaker 1: really feel like they can get a great quarterback, it

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Speaker 1: would stop him. Same goes. I mean a J. M.

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Speaker 1: McCarron is clearly a stop gap for the quarterback that

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Speaker 1: Buffalo wants to draft. Um Sam Bradford is not stopping

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Speaker 1: me from doing anything. Yeah, Sam Bradford's up, you know

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Speaker 1: at with the New York Jets, McCown and Teddy. I

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Speaker 1: think I'm very intrigued by the Bridgewater deal, and I

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Speaker 1: hope it works out for him because I root for

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Speaker 1: him as a person. But that wouldn't stop me from

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Speaker 1: drafting a quarterback if I were the Jets either. No, No,

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Speaker 1: you're astol. You're right, and so nothing has changed for

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Speaker 1: you guys, nothing's changed the shot on that front, like

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Speaker 1: it's still gonna be. It's still gonna still feel like

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Speaker 1: they're potentially that all those quarterbacks can go early. Then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, now, hey, here's that You've You've

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Speaker 1: been on the train about the why receiver Ridley. You

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Speaker 1: have been on that train since the combine. And I

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Speaker 1: like what you're saying there. I like what you're saying there.

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Speaker 1: So to me, if I'm interested in Ridley, which we

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Speaker 1: Ridley though all these quarterbacks, nothing's changed for us, right,

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Speaker 1: No quarterback is going number one to the Browns. Lock

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Speaker 1: Dave was saying about case Kiman in Denver. I think

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Speaker 1: what that does for them is they don't have to

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Speaker 1: trade up. Now. Now if the right quarterback is there

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Speaker 1: at five, yeah you don't, you take them, But they

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Speaker 1: don't have to trade up. They're not pressure to do that.

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Speaker 1: Buffalo they made that trade with Cordy Glenn. So now

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Speaker 1: they're picking number twelve and twenty two puts them in

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Speaker 1: striking distance. I mean, they're basically doing what Philly did

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Speaker 1: in terms of the we're going to see four, maybe five,

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Speaker 1: probably five quarterbacks go somewhere in the top fifteen picks,

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Speaker 1: Cowboys at nineteen. That helped them, I think, yeah, so,

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Speaker 1: but in terms of like the landscape, that's you know,

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Speaker 1: when Buffalo made that trade, everybody was like, well, this

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Speaker 1: it's not any different because yeah, we knew that quarterback

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Speaker 1: know it was twelve to the Bills, but we knew somehow,

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Speaker 1: some way, one of those guys would probably go in

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Speaker 1: that range. Could Buffalo sit there at their spot and

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Speaker 1: pick a quarterback, You think they could, But I don't

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Speaker 1: think you're going to. If you look at the history

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Speaker 1: of quarterbacks that have gone in the first round, if

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Speaker 1: you didn't have that number one pick, right, chances are

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Speaker 1: you traded up for your quarterback. Sure. And this is

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Speaker 1: why I don't understand people saying, oh, Cleveland could just

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Speaker 1: take Barkley at one and get their quarterback at four.

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Speaker 1: That's that's a dangerous play. Well, no, you don't get

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Speaker 1: And it's not position where oh we didn't get our

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Speaker 1: don't settle for a quarterback. You go and get your guy.

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Speaker 1: And if it cost you an extra second round pick, okay,

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Speaker 1: chance we see Buffalo trade into somewhere in the top

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Speaker 1: The Jets, they have so many quarterbacks on that roster,

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Speaker 1: have you know Teddy be your your week? Word is

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Speaker 1: option with him behind him? Word is that Woody Johnson,

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Speaker 1: the owner, and Mike mcagnan, they they they by directive,

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Speaker 1: Which and to that point about the Bills, you don't

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Speaker 1: here tells me they're going they're going to let me

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Speaker 1: ask you this though, Okay and okay, now we're talking

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Speaker 1: about what some chaos that could happen at the top

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Speaker 1: Now if they want to get up, say we've we've

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Speaker 1: does that make Does that affect them in any way

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Are they as looking for a quarterback? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: been pinpointing twelve for weeks, right, and now that seems

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Speaker 1: unlikely because it's either the Bills who are looking for

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Speaker 1: already traded down one. See. What I'm saying is is

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Speaker 1: somebody to try and get ahead of Buffalo. Probably That's

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Speaker 1: Miami might be one of the teams it's not going

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Speaker 1: to trade up for a quarterback. We don't know. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: to and I'm and I'm now I think I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: have some trouble here. Who's who's it? Thirteen thirteen Washington?

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Speaker 1: it's a three to four. That's it's a three to four.

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Speaker 1: I don't love this. See that's what I'm saying. I

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Speaker 1: was I'm glad you got to explain the quarterback thing

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Speaker 1: of maybe driving a guy. That was my first point.

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Speaker 1: Second point is though, what if I want to go

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Speaker 1: is Miami? Is somebody gonna hold you up thinking that

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Speaker 1: they've got value as long as those quarterbacks are still

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Speaker 1: there will be teams that are will be perfectly okay

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Speaker 1: with trading back twice. So let's just say that would

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Speaker 1: be nice. Let's say it's Indie. Say Buffalo goes up

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Speaker 1: to number three, they go, they call Chris Ballard, they

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Speaker 1: get the third pick for what twelve, twenty two, and like,

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Speaker 1: what next year's three if that could have done? And

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Speaker 1: player he's getting at nineteen. If Ballard were to go

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Speaker 1: we've talked about this before. Dallas would have to be

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Speaker 1: that's still a second round pick, as we've talked about.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're right, would Ballard be okay picking up

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis would then have pick nineteen twenty two and multiple

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Speaker 1: talent poor. We saw them. They need more. Yeah, exactly

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Speaker 1: So I mean you still had your choice of plenty

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Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley. He made a very good he made a

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Speaker 1: very good, very good speech about it. But I mean

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Speaker 1: enough to make it true, enough to make me think, hey,

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Speaker 1: at nineteen, if I got a fifty fifty chance a

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Speaker 1: drafting the best receiver, who I feel like, I feel

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Speaker 1: like he'd come in and helped his team. You know,

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Speaker 1: isn't I feel like a first team for this year's

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Speaker 1: show is like, there's not much in the way of

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Speaker 1: pass rush help for this team. And the way this

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Speaker 1: board stacks up, have we taking it thirty three? Courtland Sutton,

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Speaker 1: Anthony Miller, Will Hernandez Isaiah Wynnum. Who am I forget

435
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Speaker 1: a linebacker? Yeah, there's any number of guys. Well, I

436
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Speaker 1: mean we've talked a million times about traffic trading down

437
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Speaker 1: to like twenty six. I mean it's the same range. Yeah,

438
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Speaker 1: you're talking about the same specifically, maybe for a guard

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Speaker 1: at that point in time, the Will her Nand is

440
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Speaker 1: of the world. I bet you, I guarantee you there

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Speaker 1: will be a guard, linebacker, or receiver that you feel

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Speaker 1: good about there at thirty three. Let's also remember pick

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Speaker 1: thirty three has a little extra value. It's that first

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447
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Speaker 1: he's still there. Oh no, he's still there too. You

448
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Speaker 1: finished day if we finished Day one with the first

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Speaker 1: pick on Friday, Brian wouldn't be able to sleep that night,

452
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Speaker 1: like be so geeked. Yeah, I like it. I like

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Speaker 1: it though, that's what you know what again, I just

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Speaker 1: trying to I'm just trying to listen to what you

455
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Speaker 1: think about DJ Moore, and I'm thinking, like you know what,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna throw away both those I'm gonna

458
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Speaker 1: throw away both chances to go for those guys. What

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Speaker 1: do we what do we learn about this team every March.

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Speaker 1: They don't like to get involved in free agency. I'm

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Speaker 1: twenty Twitter. Yeah, well you guys know how I love

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Speaker 1: segues so based in you know, considering what we just

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Speaker 1: so let's let's just say they do trade up to

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Speaker 1: ten or the tennis range. Yeah, like we were just

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Speaker 1: but is there a guy that they would do that

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Speaker 1: about this last week, but a name if you would fall,

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Speaker 1: Minka Fitzpatrick. Yeah, that makes sense to me. Yeah, and say,

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Speaker 1: you know, Cleveland, with all these quarterbacks going top five,

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Speaker 1: Barkeley is going to go somewhere in the top ten

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Speaker 1: or quarterbacks going top ten. Barkeley's going on top ten.

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Speaker 1: Nelson probably goes top ten. Durwin, Uh, there's a chance

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Speaker 1: that Minka could fall a little bit. He's a top

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Speaker 1: five player in this draft in my opinion. He can

563
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Speaker 1: play outside, corner, play free seat, you can play a nickel,

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Speaker 1: play anywhere you want. If he were available, he is

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Speaker 1: absolutely worth trading up for with what he can bring

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Speaker 1: to this secondary. And some people might look at him

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Speaker 1: and say, oh, well, you know, Byron Jones, he could

568
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Speaker 1: play coronicles, safety wasn't great at either fits Minka's the

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Speaker 1: the exception where yes he's versatile where he can play

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Speaker 1: different spots, but he can also be above average close

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Speaker 1: to elite in several different spots as well. So it's

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Speaker 1: not a Byron Jones situation. You draft him at ten

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Speaker 1: purely to play safety, like, forget the rest of that.

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Speaker 1: Probably I have in my in my scouting, in my book,

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Speaker 1: he'll be an outside corner just because I think that's

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Speaker 1: the worst value is the best. But for this team,

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Speaker 1: he'd be a free safety. Yeah, what's funny safety and

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Speaker 1: play him an Outsideyeah, it's funny you say that because too,

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Speaker 1: because you think about people are asking about Tyron Matthew,

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Speaker 1: you know, and Tyron Matthew is very is very positioned

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Speaker 1: specific scheme specific. Yeah, and you know you talk about

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Speaker 1: a guy that has the flexibility to play outside, play slot,

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Speaker 1: play deep. That's Mica Fitzpatrick, right, and and and be

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Speaker 1: a good tackler. You know. The thing about the thing

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Speaker 1: with Tyron Matthew now is Tyron Matthew has become a

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Speaker 1: slot player blitzer, but he's lost that ability to tackle.

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Speaker 1: He's not as good at as he once was. Again

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Speaker 1: and so, but he has to be very specific where

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Speaker 1: you play him. Ty He's tough because he's coming off

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Speaker 1: the ACL two years ago and he was rusty last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and so I think he'll be better this year. Sure,

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Speaker 1: but you're still committing a lot of money trying to

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Speaker 1: bet on. I think he'll be better coverage, you know,

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Speaker 1: And so that's just he's gonna get you. Watch year,

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Speaker 1: watch him play coverage he could cover, you know, and

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Speaker 1: he's but he will gamble too. I mean, he will

597
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Speaker 1: give up some big plays, but that has been his career.

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Speaker 1: He can make big plays and he could give up

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Speaker 1: big plays. But I think he's he's specific for what

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Speaker 1: a scheme. You have to have a plan for him.

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Speaker 1: If this team is not going to be creative with

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Speaker 1: how they call him down. No, I'll be fascinated to

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Speaker 1: see his market though, because I mean, I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I think he can still command twelve thirteen dollars a year.

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Speaker 1: But I've had conversations with football people who think that

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Speaker 1: his history is enough to drop that price. Yeah. We well,

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Speaker 1: we talk about undersized safeties and how a lot of

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Speaker 1: teams that scares them away. That's Tyron, Matthew and that's

609
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Speaker 1: why he's not that true safety, because he's really has

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Speaker 1: the size of a corner. Yeah. I would do cartwheels

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Speaker 1: if they were to acquire him, but I don't know

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Speaker 1: how good of a fit he actually is for this team, right,

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Speaker 1: if you got to use them the right way. Um,

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Speaker 1: all right, this is a this is a question that

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Speaker 1: I really like from from a listener of ours down

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Speaker 1: in Argentina. Uh, we talk about how many picks they

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Speaker 1: have and how they can use that to move around.

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Speaker 1: They've got four comp picks ten total. We think we

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Speaker 1: all agree they're not going to use them, all right,

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Speaker 1: So what are those comp pics actually worth? So they

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Speaker 1: you know, you can sit there and say like, well,

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Speaker 1: maybe they use a fourth and a fifth to get up,

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Speaker 1: but like how far does a fourth and a fix

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Speaker 1: You've got the numbers, yeah, I do, Okay. They have

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Speaker 1: pick one thirty seven in the fourth round. One thirty

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Speaker 1: seven is worth thirty eight points on their board. They

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Speaker 1: is worth twenty three on their board. They have pick

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Speaker 1: one seventy three in the fifth round that is worth

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Speaker 1: twenty two on their board. And they have picked two

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Speaker 1: o eight in the sixth round that is worth eight

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Speaker 1: on their board. All right, So how much is pick

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Speaker 1: eighty one worth? Pick eighty one David Hellman is worth

636
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: one eighty five one? All right? See, And that's that's

637
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: exactly what I'm talking about, right there is even just

638
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: dropping all the way. I mean, so you're not even

639
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: dropping halfway from you know, from pick one third from

640
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: pick eighty one to one thirty seven. I mean it's

641
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: a fraction, right, So even if you're packaging multiple of

642
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: these picks, I mean, how far up? How how Let's

643
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: all right, let's just say you throw one thirty seven

644
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: with one eighty one, or excuse me with eighty one.

645
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: Saw you throw eighty one one with one thirty seven,

646
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: so you got eighty one? Help me with matths it's

647
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: one eighty five and then one thirty seven. Uh, well,

648
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: one eighty five is no, it's worth eighty one is

649
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: worth one eighty five. And how much is one thirty

650
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: seven worth? And one is worth that's worth thirty eight? Right,

651
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: So that gives you what two hundred and fifteen total

652
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: points or something like that. So how far up can

653
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: that get you? Well, the probably if we did it

654
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: on the chart, though, let's see say in the second

655
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: round you're talking about going some fifty up or how

656
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: far up could you go from fifty with that? Okay?

657
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: From fifty or at four hundred? Okay, so say you

658
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: want to go to You've got two hundred total points

659
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: to move with. Yeah, you got two hundred tild You

660
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: could go to the top of the round if you

661
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: wanted to, I'll call that. So fifty plus eighty one

662
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,959
Speaker 1: plus that right, get you there? Right? Okay, you got

663
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: the top because pick thirty three is worth five eighty.

664
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: That's one hundred and eighty points right there. But these

665
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: all right, but you could do it with You could

666
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: do it with just the third round pick if you

667
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: wanted to. Yeah, which I guess is my point, which

668
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: I think they are going to use these picks to

669
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: move around but too, but let's not kid ourselves and

670
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: say that you can jump half around with pick one

671
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: thirty seven and pick two away. That's not how it

672
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: works right now, but you but you can maybe move

673
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: up two spots with those picks. Well, yeah, what you

674
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: could do is though you could find a way though people.

675
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: People will sometimes sell short and they'll say, okay, yeah,

676
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: give me that pick and that pick. You know, it

677
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: gives you at least it gives you flexibility. It will be,

678
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: it will be. It gives you the ability to say, Okay, hey,

679
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: we want your pick, but and we'll kick in that

680
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: that fourth round pick, right, we'll kick in a fifth

681
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: round pick. I guess, I guess that's the point I

682
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: want to make, is that you need to do damage

683
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: with the You need to do damage with eighty one,

684
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: four and five. You do your you do your damage,

685
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: and those are in the game. You've got that right there.

686
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: You've got two fourth round picks, two fifth round picks,

687
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: am I right? And yeah, three sixth round picks. Right,

688
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: we only charted out the compic right. But yeah, but

689
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: but but you know what I'm saying, You've got the

690
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: you've got the picks to say, okay, package both your fours.

691
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: You know how much is one sixteen worth? Real quick?

692
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: One sixteen is worth? Make me look at these things today.

693
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate you doing this though it's worth sixty two?

694
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: So what what's God? I'm so bad at math that's

695
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: what I mean. That's where one hundred points right, Yeah,

696
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 1: like even see that, that's enough to get somebody to

697
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: talk to you. Yeah, somebody will talk to you if

698
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: you've got picks. It's see, hey, how about next years.

699
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 1: We'll give you next year's three. We'll give you next

700
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 1: year's four. Right, you're not picking now, you're kind of like, Okay,

701
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: that'll be nice to have next year. That's what i'd

702
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: like to see them do. I'd like them to take

703
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: one of this year's fours and get a three next year. Yeah,

704
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 1: that's what I would like to see it. Or even

705
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: a trade of five for a four next year. Yeah,

706
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: that's what I would That's yeah, if you get to

707
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: a certain point in time, you could do it with

708
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: those sixes. Now you can do it. You can say, hey,

709
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 1: we'll take next year five. And it's basically what the

710
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: Zevier Wills. I'm gonna say that that for Xavier Wills, right, yeah,

711
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: exactly exactly right. So yeah, it's it's it's a nice

712
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: little arsenal that helps you get things done, but you

713
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: can't get things done with just these Yeah, you've got it.

714
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: You've got to be again, you've got to use your

715
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: own picks plus two compensatories, like you know, give me

716
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: two fours, give me two fives. Right, you know, that's

717
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: how these things work. As long as we're talking about this,

718
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: Dylan has a question. Cowboys put the tender on David

719
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: Irving yesterday. Yeah, if somebody were to sign him away,

720
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: they would get a second round pick for it, which, again,

721
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 1: all right, let's just hypothetically say that that that happens.

722
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: David Irving is a Miami Dolphin and you have a

723
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: second round pick. Um again, so that gives you eleven

724
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: picks and four big time picks. Yeah, that gives me

725
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: two first, that gives me a one and two twos.

726
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: You think that you think it's more likely they make

727
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: all those picks? Or do you When you have something

728
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: as valuable as two twos, do you use it to

729
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: try to go somewhere? We want to keep picking in

730
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: the top one hundred, don't we? You do? Plus, you

731
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: have to factor in that you're losing a player and

732
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 1: that creates another need, a big time player. Right, So

733
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: you know, if you're looking on those defense, yeah he's

734
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: a three, you're picking up a two, and that's great,

735
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: but you're also creating another need. So yeah, maybe you

736
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: could take both those twos and go up to get

737
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: you know, if there's two Well, I'm just saying, if

738
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: you wanted to go up into the second round, if

739
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: you want to go up high in the second round,

740
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: if you wanted to go to Cleveland spot that we

741
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: were talking about, that Cleveland spot to get a Taven Bryan, Yeah,

742
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,959
Speaker 1: three technique or something like that. Yeah, right, you're losing,

743
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: you're losing it. Yeah, just for exactly, That's exactly I

744
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: pulled Miami out of nowhere. But I'm just okay, So

745
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: if you did that, you would have pick forty two.

746
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: So does it make more sense to do that and

747
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: try to go up and get a better player or

748
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: just pick at forty two and fifty and assuming you

749
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: make good picks, I mean, that's two guys who should

750
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: start for you, I would hope. So we get three

751
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: picks inside the top fifty, right, And it depends what

752
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: you want, you know, like, okay, if if you need

753
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: a three technique, if you want a draft a three technique,

754
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: who you're taken, let's just I mean, let's just yeah, no,

755
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: I know, I'm with y'all. Let's stay cursed off the

756
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: board for the sake of the conversation. And you know,

757
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: I mean Taven, Bryan's probably your best bet. After Taven

758
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: and Brian, who's the next best three technique? This draft

759
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: is void of under tackles. Yeah, it no doubt about that.

760
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of options. And so Shepherd, I

761
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: love Shepherd. You're fort Wayne Guy or Hayes excuse me,

762
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: I mean the guys I would me targeting personally. Shepherd

763
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: and Brian would be the two guys I would look at,

764
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 1: and both are gonna go somewhere in the second round. Yeah,

765
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: probably before you pick. Yeah, Brian might go in the

766
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: first round. Yeah. So again because just like the offensive tackles,

767
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 1: these guys are gonna go early because of the lack

768
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: of depth in this class. I mean it's maybe maybe

769
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: it's a situation where you sit there and you move,

770
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 1: you do move, You move our guy back to from

771
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: one to three, you know, Malik, Yeah, I think I

772
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: think they should right. That's just because again this is

773
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: we've talked about it at length. The amount of one

774
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: technique or nose tackles in this class. It's I mean,

775
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: for you, I don't want to I don't want to

776
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: win these guys. In the first round he can, I'll

777
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 1: pass on Veya and those guys. But in the second round,

778
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: you're telling me I can get a Harrison Phillips. Yeah,

779
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you about it. I was gonna

780
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: ask you about Phillips. Could Phillips play three? I don't

781
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: think it's his strength? No, no, he could. I don't

782
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: think it's a strength though. But I mean give me,

783
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: give me b J. Hill in the third round. Give

784
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: me uh you know the Yukon kid. You can find

785
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: about the brown kid from North Carolina, from Virginia, Andrew Brown,

786
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: Andrew Brown. I don't want him, but that's just man,

787
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: that's but I no, no, yeah, no, no, no, I

788
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: was just throwing a name. I was just throwing a

789
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: name down the line. Yeah. I mean played better than

790
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: the senior ball than he did on Virginia tape. There's

791
00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: no question. I got a four or five on him,

792
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: and I think he'll go a lot higher than that.

793
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: That's I'm saying he's got He's got like two three

794
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: talent though, doesn't he that's probably yeah, based on just ability.

795
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: I mean, a former five star guy who there's a

796
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: lot of unrealized potential there sounds like the way they

797
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 1: draft off in defensive linement round. Oh, I was gonna say,

798
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, I kind of I tuned with

799
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: part of that conversation out because I'm just like, they're

800
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: not going to draft a defensive tackle that high and

801
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 1: they're just not going to. They did it with Malik

802
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: they did so third round. Gotta give him credit for that. Yeah,

803
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 1: but I just I don't believe it when I see it.

804
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: It's just crazy, though. I mean, he's right though. If

805
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: there's a position that doesn't have a lot of depth

806
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: in it, it set under tackle spot technique, a three technique.

807
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: Now you want a one go all day, Yeah, you

808
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: could go all day with those cats. I think they

809
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: got some three technique traits the kid at South Florida. Yeah,

810
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: short but one gap player. Yeah, I don't He's not

811
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: gonna be a penetrator in the NFL though. I don't

812
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: think he can get up field because he's he's a

813
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: good athlete and he plays with the energy that you want.

814
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 1: But I don't think he's gonna be a consistent upfield player.

815
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: Disagree with you on that because he's more of a

816
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: he's more of a one for me. Yeah, I don't know.

817
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: I watched him. He's like a disruptive guy. Yeah. I mean,

818
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: but I think there's a different I mean to get

819
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: some good I mean I'm watching to play good teams.

820
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: I mean they're not. Yeah, I just think there's a

821
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: difference between being an interior pass rusher and being able

822
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 1: to know. So the way you would have this if

823
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: I'm correct, of those ones that are left, would it

824
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: be Phillips pain in him? Would that? How would be

825
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: for you? My top one technique's Veya payin Phillips sonat

826
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah Hill, naughty Fatakasi. Yeah, so that those guys, Yeah,

827
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: I'm with you. One guy, I don't We haven't talked

828
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: about much as a three technique. That could be a

829
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: possibility to Shawn Hand from Alabama. Yeah, he's a good player.

830
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: He had a good week of the Senior Bowl, waited

831
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: his turn at Alabama. Um, he might not be a

832
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 1: bad day two option. Yeah, people on people on the

833
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: people on periscope saying come on ya could play the three?

834
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: People love Veya like. I think if you pulled the

835
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: fan base, I think he would be one of the

836
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,919
Speaker 1: absolute top vote getters. Who would you I'm gonna put

837
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: you on the spot on this and this is we

838
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: gotta go after this one. You know, you know, me

839
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: and my taco kind of you know that kind of

840
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: that kind of went ah saw, you know when ya

841
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 1: thank you Taco. But he's I will make me look

842
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 1: really bad. But who who does that? Out of Veya?

843
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: That who who added that group? Kind of if they

844
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: took him at at nineteen, you would kind of go

845
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: ah um, I mean, we know how I feel with

846
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: the guards. Yeah, I know that. Yeah, I mean, Veya

847
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: so talented. But if I'm talking about the just about

848
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: the player, I'm talking about the position. What player would

849
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: make you go you know, probably uh probably probably one

850
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: of the guards, whether it's Win or I mean, I

851
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: don't I don't think there is a what if they

852
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: took more? Fine, Okay, you're okay with the receiver. You

853
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: have no problem with the receiver. The president of the

854
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: fan club, I okay, I'm with you there, Okay, go ahead,

855
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: But again, I think I don't think there's a player

856
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: that they would take at nineteen that would How about

857
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: the linebacker from Alabama? I like Evans, He's a good plauser.

858
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,439
Speaker 1: If those are my two the Evans and vander Esch.

859
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: They if they were the pick at nineteen, I would go, Okay.

860
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: See the problem with Taco last year was passing on

861
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: oh No, and so I'm so I'm trying to think

862
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: this at the corner, I think he's going to be

863
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 1: a good Well, I'm trying to think of a player

864
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: where they I could see them passing on a better

865
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: player at that position. And I don't know if you know,

866
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: because it's like if they took Tremi and Edmunds over

867
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: Roal quant Smith, No, they're not going to be there.

868
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: But if they did take Que, or they did take

869
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: Tremaine over Roque one, that would make me go, you know,

870
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: like yeah, I feel like they passed on the better

871
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: player at the position like they did last year with

872
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: Watton Taco. This year, I don't know if I necessarily

873
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 1: see that with this group where there's an obvious better player,

874
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: but they might prefer someone else. Because even if they

875
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: took more O a Ridley, I wouldn't be that upset

876
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: because as much as I like Ridley, I love more too.

877
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: What if they if they what if they took what

878
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: if they took one of those tight ends at nineteen. Yeah,

879
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,720
Speaker 1: that would that would upset me too. Yeah, that wouldn't

880
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 1: make much sense. Okay, I think it may. In a way,

881
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: it's a little bit easier this year because at nineteen

882
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: you're talking about the back end of the first round talent,

883
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: whereas at twenty eight you're trying to make sense of

884
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: the start of the round two talent. You know, it's

885
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: there's a much more diverse cast of characters, Whereas I

886
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: really feel like by the time you get to nineteen,

887
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a pretty clear cut There's gonna be

888
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: a pretty clear cut two or three name bunch that's

889
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: gonna make a lot more sense than the rest of

890
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: the options. Right right, good answer. A pair of skipt

891
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: calling me a hater. You are a hater, Josh sitting

892
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: just sound with the Dolphins. Hey, other guard off the board? Yeah,

893
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: my guy, My guys signed with you. Saw my guy yesterday?

894
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: Dane the guard? That the guard. They are going to

895
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: sign a guard. I'll stake my I don't have much revisitation. Well,

896
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: it's not going to happen on Friday of the first

897
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: week of free agency. It's gonna happen. Vale should sign

898
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Speaker 1: a guy from the Saint should I loved him out

899
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,120
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900
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: All right, you're gonna go huh who We gotta take

901
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,520
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a those three days were long. Got

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Speaker 1: I gotta make sure I got some in the rotation

955
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Speaker 1: for draft weekend because it's a long It is a long,

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Speaker 1: long weekend sitting in here with you. I need to

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961
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: here in the coming weeks as we get ready for

962
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: this NFL drap. Okay, David, I'm gonna turn it over

963
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: to you for some tell me more please. I decided

964
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: to switch it up today because we do two shows

965
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 1: a week now and there's still six weeks to the draft,

966
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: so I don't think with forty days left, I'm not

967
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: sure we need to be digging through seventh round picks

968
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: and undrafted free I think people enjoy the fact that

969
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: going and looking at guys. No, they do, they do,

970
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: But I just I there's basically and you guys watched

971
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: way more tape than me. But I feel like there's

972
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: bigger names that kind of fell through the cracks. So

973
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 1: I wanted to pick out a couple of those, uh,

974
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: you know, maybe first, second, third round considerations that I

975
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: feel like we haven't talked about on this show, and

976
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: Dan actually alluded to one of them. I know we've

977
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: said his name, but I feel like, he's not a

978
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: guy we talk a lot about. So tell me more

979
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: about Florida defensive tackle Taven Bryan. I compared him to

980
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: Robert Candici. Just he's a really good athlete who can

981
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: get up the field. He just scared everybody in well

982
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: not often feel just just on the field. But there

983
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: are some discipline issues, technique issues. It's great you have

984
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: the athleticism, but it doesn't mean much if it doesn't

985
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: translate the football production. Right there's a guy who had

986
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 1: ten and a half tackles for loss in his career

987
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 1: at Florida, and trust a tape, not the stat sheet,

988
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: but I think it translates where what you see on tape,

989
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: you don't see a guy that's making consistent plays in

990
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: the backfield. Now, you watch his highlights and always signed

991
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: me up first round, right, But when you watch the tape,

992
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 1: the full body of work, that's where you realize he's

993
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: a very inconsistent player right now. But you project him

994
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: forward and I think you do see the ability to

995
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,439
Speaker 1: be a much better player than he is right now.

996
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: Where does that put his value in the draft. Wouldn't

997
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: be shocked at all if he goes top twenty in

998
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: a top thirty somewhere somewhere in the twenties, right, But

999
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: I put a second round great on him. I think

1000
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 1: on my top fifty board he was somewhere like thirty

1001
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: three thirty four. Is im so a good player? He

1002
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 1: definitely earned his Wyoming wild Man label label. Yeah, because

1003
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: he's he's like the first Wyoming player to ever good Florida.

1004
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 1: But there are some questions there not a slam dunk player. Yeah,

1005
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I think. Dane got him exactly right.

1006
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a relentless guy. When you watch

1007
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: him on tape, he does not stop. I mean he

1008
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: just keeps coming at you, coming at you. Sometimes he

1009
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: gets knocked off balance. He's always trying to make plays.

1010
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: I then d comparisons. I could see that because how

1011
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: disruptive those guys were. So. Yeah, but he's a better

1012
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 1: person off the field. Yeah, you don't have to worry

1013
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: about directly on the field. Yeah, this guy right here

1014
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 1: is as tough as they come. His dad is a

1015
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: Navy seal. Yeah, and relentless. He raised him just you

1016
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: would not he would not be Again, there's there's sometimes

1017
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: where he's good for two, three, four plays, and then

1018
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: there's other times you kind of seem disappeared a little bit.

1019
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: But again, the effort, intensity and all that is okay,

1020
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: But he just can't hurt you in the run game,

1021
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, that's where the discipline us come up,

1022
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 1: exactly if he doesn't need to be in the backfield

1023
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: every play, but if he's hurting you in the run

1024
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: game and he's taking himself out of plays, that's where

1025
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: he's hurting you. And that's what you worry about with him.

1026
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: This guy is universally I've seen him as a top

1027
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: forty prospect on every list I've ever looked at. And

1028
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 1: obviously Cowboys aren't super corner needy. But I really feel

1029
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: like we've never talked about Colorado corner Isaiah Oliver, Like

1030
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: I don't know that his name has ever come up

1031
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: on this show. If he has, I don't remember it. Well.

1032
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: It's funny because when you you watch last year watching Cheeto,

1033
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: you're watching what Tedric Thompson was a safe je Witherspoon

1034
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 1: the other corner, and yet it was Oliver number twenty six.

1035
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: He kept popping off the screen, which he was doing

1036
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: the other cornerback there. But he was a sophomore, so

1037
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 1: we couldn't come out. Went back for his junior year

1038
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: this past season, and he was just as productive, I mean,

1039
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: had double digit passes defended, a bigger guy, good athlete,

1040
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 1: was the cathalon athlete in high school and at Colorado,

1041
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: So there's a lot to like there. Uh. He's a

1042
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: guy that not necessarily quick twitch, but good size, uses

1043
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:32,720
Speaker 1: length well. He's consistently within arm's length of the receiver,

1044
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: so he can make plays on the football. Well built

1045
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: for the position. I think smaller quicker receivers will give

1046
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: him some trouble at times, but as an outside corner,

1047
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: I think he's that classic press man type of guy

1048
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: who can help you out on the outside. This is

1049
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: a guy that the Cowboys might really like. That's I

1050
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: mean because now and Dane once again hit him. He's

1051
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: six foot, he's two oh one. You know, you look

1052
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: at the measurables and stuff there. The speed is write

1053
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: about four or five one, you know, let's see and

1054
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 1: you and we talk about reach thirty three and a

1055
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: half on the arms. This is a guy. This is

1056
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: this has Chris Richard written all over it. As a

1057
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: guy that they'll probably have a lot higher. And I

1058
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if we're sitting there and maybe not

1059
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: at not at at nineteen, but if they said something, Hey,

1060
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: you know you talked about moving guys around that three

1061
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 1: that we're getting. Yeah, yeah, No, I mean, here's a

1062
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: guy that has tremendous length. He really really does, and

1063
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 1: he's a tall guy, and Dane's right. I The thing

1064
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: about him is, though I watched him play press because

1065
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: of the length, you know, maybe he's a guy you

1066
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: can flip because he's a he's got that kind of

1067
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: that start stop quickness stuff press man Corner. This might

1068
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: be a guy that's pretty high on their board when

1069
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: it's all said and done. Carlton Davis or is they

1070
00:52:55,440 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 1: Oliver I have I have? I have Davis higher on

1071
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: my board. Carlton Davis is A yeah. I think they're

1072
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: they're stacked for me, and they're pretty similar, you know,

1073
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: bigger guys, they're right there. I mean, I'm good athletes.

1074
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: It's a great conversation that we don't have time for today,

1075
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 1: but it kind of goes back to last year. You know,

1076
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 1: they spent so many resources on Corner. You gotta feel

1077
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: good about their depth chart at cornerback right now, but

1078
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: you could put yourself to the test in terms of,

1079
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 1: you know, window dressing your board. I mean, what if

1080
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: you wind up where a cornerback is obviously the best

1081
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: option available to you. There's a good chance that happens,

1082
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 1: because this is the cornerback class is the best, the most,

1083
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 1: the strongest position this year and this year's draft hidden's

1084
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: pretty good though too. It isn't running back cornerbacks better,

1085
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: And I think with the way this league is set up,

1086
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: I'm not sure you could turn that down. Yeah. You, um,

1087
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: this guy did some freaky stuff at the combine, and

1088
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: I feel like we don't talk about him. Florida states

1089
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: Josh Sweat, not liking that side. I think I liked

1090
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: them better than how are you broad ested? You did?

1091
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 1: You did? And it's go ahead if you want to

1092
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: describe him well and they see about the kid, let

1093
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: me start with the negative. Oh wait, that's my job. Well,

1094
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: just because you have to talk about it, get it

1095
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 1: out of the way. Is the medicals have to come

1096
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: back clean. Yeah, he had a devastating knee injury his

1097
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 1: senior year in high school. Yeah, he was a he

1098
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: was a five star guy. He was kind of tabbed

1099
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: that next Jadeveon Clowney and he likes like with just

1100
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: his body type and everything, so he he has that

1101
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 1: type of ability. But again you worry about the knee. Uh,

1102
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 1: that has to check out, okay, but he didn't barely

1103
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: miss any time over his care at Florida State, so

1104
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: it's just more of a long term question mark than

1105
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 1: anything else. This is a guy that can bend the corner.

1106
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: He's athletic, um, he doesn't always have that rush plan

1107
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: that you want, kind of just relying on that athleticism

1108
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: kind of like you. But you don't have to use

1109
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: the first round pick on him, right You can get

1110
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 1: him on day two and develop him and build him up.

1111
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: And as long as the medicals check out okay, and

1112
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: they give you two thumbs up where he's still gonna

1113
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: be on or he's gonna play through his rookie contract

1114
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: and without any trouble, that's a that's a perfect day

1115
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: two target. I want to can I can I just

1116
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 1: ask you about a different guy because we're right Yeah, No,

1117
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: I mean I again, he's right about the guy. I

1118
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: just I think he's laid off the snap and I

1119
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: see him get bounced. That kind of Bothers me about

1120
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 1: the guy he gets bounced out of place. I well,

1121
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: they's got down on him. Maybe I can get you

1122
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,479
Speaker 1: a guy that you're up on. I don't know, we'll see. Um.

1123
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: This is again, you know I talk about after Davenport

1124
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: and Landry, you don't see a lot in the way

1125
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,919
Speaker 1: of pass rushing options about George's Lorenzo Carter. I've seen

1126
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 1: this guy mocked in the first a few times. I

1127
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: see him high up on all these lists. Again, not

1128
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: sure we've ever talked about him. Well, and the reason

1129
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 1: he's being monked in the first is six five two

1130
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: fifty nine, a four four six forty. I like it.

1131
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: He's got thirty four inch arms. He's just he's a freak.

1132
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 1: So what's the bad part. Well, he's always been a freak.

1133
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: And yet you know he didn't have great sack production

1134
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: in college. He's very lean, doesn't have the play strength

1135
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,439
Speaker 1: that you want. I don't where are you gonna play him.

1136
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: That's that's a big issue, because I don't think I

1137
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: have this outside linebacker and I'm not sure that's the

1138
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: spot that might be his best pot. I put him there,

1139
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure about it. He's not a traditional

1140
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 1: hand on the ground, plush the edge because he doesn't

1141
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: have he doesn't play with that power. But he's more

1142
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: of a jack of all trades, master of none. Where

1143
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: you stand him up, let him use that athleticism where

1144
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: he can rush at times where he can drop. He

1145
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 1: can use his range, but that's more of a luxury

1146
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: than a you know, focal point of your of your defense.

1147
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: So if you're going to draft him high, you know,

1148
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 1: top fifty, which good chance he goes that high because

1149
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: the measurables. You better have a plan for him, and

1150
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: maybe a team will you know a team you know

1151
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,240
Speaker 1: like uh, like the way they Seahawks use Bruce irvn

1152
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: or you know one of these other guys that don't

1153
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: necessarily fit a hand on the ground end, or you

1154
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: know a stand up linebacker that kind of a mix

1155
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 1: of both. He's a hybrid player, And as long as

1156
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 1: you have a plan for him, he's probably worth a

1157
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: pick in the top fifty, top sixty. But I don't know,

1158
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: there's some question. The thing that probathered me the most

1159
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: about he absorbs blocks for a long arm guy doesn't

1160
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: know how to use him. He just does not. I mean,

1161
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 1: people get on him and he is struggling to get

1162
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 1: off them. So yeah, I had a real problem. He's

1163
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: like all arms and legs when he rushes, very la.

1164
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's it's kind of like watch

1165
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: him do that, but he dever gets the corner. Yeah,

1166
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: it's like, you're going, Okay, get the court. And I

1167
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: watch him against Notre Dame because I want to see

1168
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: him play against mcclinchy, and mcclinchy just wore him out

1169
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: this year, and I'm like, that's the kind of guy

1170
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna be playing against the NFL exactly. You know,

1171
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: I come in with like five names in this segment

1172
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: every week, and I'm pumped about all of them, and

1173
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: I usually only come away still excited about one by

1174
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: the time. Y'all, Hey, at least it's the names, right, Yeah,

1175
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: it's the name. Sorry, all right, hey, listen, Thanks everybody

1176
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: out there for joining us today on the Draft Show.

1177
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: We appreciate that. It's always fun to get to talk

1178
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: to you guys about this. We'll be back Monday, right,

1179
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: we do it again, Monday at ten am. Ye, Monday

1180
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,919
Speaker 1: at ten am, Draft time. Like the days are running together,

1181
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: Monday at ten am, under forty days exactly, so for

1182
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: Dane Burglar, David helmet Kin, Garrison, I'm Brian Bruss. Keep

1183
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: watching the tape. We'll talk to you soon. Thanks,