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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation, how we do it? Well, that's

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Speaker 2: good us too. Our number two here as the afternoon

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Speaker 2: rolls into the evening Wetshuler, Matt Williamson. Of course, it

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Speaker 2: is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. And Matt, we have our combined practice reports

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Speaker 2: here on a Thursday for both teams. We will start

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Speaker 2: with the Steelers before we get into some Packers injury

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Speaker 2: news and updates. Matt, there's good news and there's bad

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Speaker 2: news with the Steelers injury report. Which would you like?

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Speaker 3: First?

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Speaker 4: Give me the Calvin Austin news. I don't know if

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Speaker 4: that's good or bad.

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Speaker 3: The good news, Oh good? Okay, After not having practiced

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Speaker 3: for a couple of.

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Speaker 2: Weeks, Yeah, yeah, he has been a full practice participant

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Speaker 2: all week Wednesday and Thursday.

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Speaker 3: Full participation for Calvin Austin.

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Speaker 4: I think that's really big for this game specifically too,

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Speaker 4: because I'm not I mean, Green Bay is a hard team.

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Speaker 4: We haven't dug into them a lot, but we have

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Speaker 4: mentioned it on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. They're a hard team.

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Speaker 4: To find things like, oh this stinks, you know, like

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Speaker 4: the Bengals. There was a lot of things to think.

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Speaker 3: You know this this you're a roller coaster.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean like Packers are like a nice,

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Speaker 4: pretty solid and the organization's gonna be different. And this

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Speaker 4: isn't a bash Bengals segment, but it's kind of a

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Speaker 4: Packers are good segment. But I would say corners the

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Speaker 4: position I'd be least confident about. Like if if I

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Speaker 4: had to bet who the Packers first round pick is

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Speaker 4: gonna be, well, they don't have them because of Parsons,

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Speaker 4: it'd be a corner. You know what I mean? You

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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Yes, And so therefore I want

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Speaker 4: my best to wide receivers, not just pass catchers. My

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Speaker 4: best two wide receivers available.

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Speaker 3: Makes a ton of sense.

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Speaker 2: And it looks like Calvin Austin is trending in that

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Speaker 2: direction after being a full participant, no limitations so far

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Speaker 2: this week in practice. You want the bad news.

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Speaker 4: Now, yeah, and give me all the news.

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Speaker 2: Zach Fraser was limited in practice yesterday with a calf injury.

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Speaker 2: He did not practice today with that calf injury. That's

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Speaker 2: it's only Thursday. But that sounds like trending in the

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Speaker 2: wrong direction here at less than I.

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Speaker 4: Do like Calf seems like such. I mean, I'm totally

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Speaker 4: guessing and making this up as we go along, But

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Speaker 4: that smells like a game time decision.

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Speaker 3: It certainly does.

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Speaker 2: We'll be waiting to see what his status is tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: but going you want to see he.

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Speaker 4: Gives it a try and then the first series he's

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Speaker 4: out or you.

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Speaker 2: Know, you want to see guys going from limited to full,

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Speaker 2: not limited to did not.

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Speaker 4: Practice backwards in terms of status always a bad sign.

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Speaker 2: Correct, Yes, let's see resting vet days for a couple guys,

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Speaker 2: Cam Heyward, DJ Watt, DK Metcalf. Nothing crazy there.

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Speaker 4: Very usual even after the long week cares.

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Speaker 2: Good news With Calvin Austin sounds like Scotty Miller picked

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Speaker 2: up an injury in practice after having no designation on Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: he was limited today with a finger issue. Okay, So

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Speaker 2: something to keep an eye on there for Scotty Miller.

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Speaker 2: If you've got Calvin Austin back, what we saw from

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Speaker 2: Roman Wilson, that's not an end of the world type.

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Speaker 4: At something end of the world, especially if Austin's back,

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Speaker 4: that's you're still upgrading it wide.

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Speaker 2: You know, obviously still you would like to have all

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Speaker 4: Is it made me sound bad at my job, and

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Speaker 4: it is. But the returner, dude, that's been a good returner. Johnson, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I was gonna call him Washington. It's not Washington. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Kyron, that's bad, but we are being bad at that.

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Speaker 4: We're both bad at our job. But anyway, he's been

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Speaker 4: an impressive returner. I wonder if he gets demoted no,

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Speaker 3: He's gonna do is return Seawan Williams.

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Speaker 4: Seehan Williams, Okay, yeah, and he's kind of exciting, but

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Speaker 4: he only plays I think one offensive snap last week.

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Speaker 4: So if Austin comes back, you're like, you're the punt returner.

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Speaker 4: And even if Miller's out, I don't know if he

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Speaker 3: You know, it's a it's a uh A good note

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Speaker 4: I might offer him to Austin as a returner, like

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Speaker 2: He's given him more juice in that department than we'd

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Speaker 4: I'm actually thinking the other way now, like, if Miller

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Speaker 4: doesn't go, they're the guy. I won't give him a helmet.

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Speaker 4: And Calvin, you're not returning today, you know, just there

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Speaker 3: I don't think that'd be the worst either.

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Speaker 2: And then the two guys that are, you know, in

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Speaker 2: of course, Milie Harrison and Will Howard.

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Speaker 3: They have both been full participants all week as well.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so you can fire him up when ready if needed.

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Speaker 4: I wonder about Harrison. Does Killer Brew's injury help his

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Speaker 4: seems like I know the results aren't great, but Wilson

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Speaker 3: No, I think you're right on that.

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Speaker 2: But Malik Harrison is a guy who has plenty of

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Speaker 2: special team's acumen. And so that's another good point by you.

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Speaker 2: Good called by you. In the absence of Killer Brew

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Speaker 2: perhaps that's the opportunity the rule for them to slide in.

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Speaker 2: Taking a look at the Packers now, Josh Jacobs has

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Speaker 4: He was questionable a week ago and went yes, and

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Speaker 2: As is Xavier McKinney, guy we talked about a little

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Speaker 2: both of those key contributors for the Packers have been

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Speaker 2: limited so far this week. Okay, as has Matt zach Tom,

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Speaker 4: blaming him for this necessarily, but I do think it's

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Speaker 4: it hurts their cause in this regard, is the Packers

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Speaker 4: it reflects on their corners, but also linebacker safety. I

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Speaker 4: mean that's where they roam. We know that they're thirty second.

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Speaker 3: I mean, last yea.

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Speaker 4: And meanwhile, this will shock people because everyone thinks the

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Speaker 4: Russell Wilson. Steelers are seventh best in attacking that area.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, so you might make the yeah, yeah, that is

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Speaker 4: He's one of the best guys in that area.

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Speaker 2: Maybe there's some matchups the Steelers can exploit there. Maybe

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Speaker 2: that's something we'll dig a little bit more into tomorrow

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Speaker 2: when we do our matchup segment.

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Speaker 3: A little five Star Friday.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they obviously featured the tight ends a lot

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, hey, and Steelers just got some good production

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Speaker 2: from that group. Absolutely this past week or I guess

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Speaker 2: yeah this past Thursday. Uh finally, Matt. Last one of

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Speaker 2: by you, Lucas van Ness as well last week. Didn't

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Speaker 3: All this week.

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Speaker 4: Interesting player because you would think, uh, they you know,

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Speaker 4: interesting is if you go to draftistory dot com and

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Speaker 4: which was what five years ago something like that, and

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Speaker 4: this past year Golden the receiver, like thirteen out of

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean it's stretched during Aaron Rodgers' tenure where

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Speaker 3: Then when they broke the streak with Aaron Rodgers, it

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Speaker 4: He was the only offensive player, and they took a

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Speaker 4: they have a lot invested. Everyone talks without the Steelers

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Speaker 4: But this team has a ton of first round capital

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Speaker 4: on defense. Not all of them are still there. Kenny

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Speaker 4: and I think some people looked at van Ness and thought, eh,

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Speaker 4: if he was living up to it, they and traded

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Speaker 4: I'm guessing right in that neighborhood. But he's an interesting player.

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Speaker 4: He's a lot different because he's not an edge bender

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Speaker 4: They call him a three four outside linebacker, but he's

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Speaker 4: really a rocked up power, two hundred and seventy pound

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Speaker 4: He's not the dip and rip, you know, Parsons Watt

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Speaker 4: on passing downs with Gary, kind of a NASCAR package

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Speaker 4: and he's been decent, So, I mean he was out

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Speaker 3: Something to keep an eye on, Mat. Ye, Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: wanted to bring this up.

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Speaker 4: I doubt he plays the more I think about it,

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Speaker 4: because I don't think he was even like questionable last week. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And if you haven't, if you didn't play the previous

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Speaker 4: Right, he's done nothing yet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's usually a very a very not so

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Speaker 2: good sign Matt before we break here, And it's kind

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Speaker 4: more of those might make it fifty one because they're that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to be a busier you said this.

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Speaker 2: I think a week ago could be should be a

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Speaker 4: And there's still a lot in it, teams like running Away.

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Speaker 3: You give what it could be on the move, guys

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Speaker 4: Who are And so much of this, folks, has to

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Speaker 3: If i'm I think.

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Speaker 4: It's like November third, it's it's always on a Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: Twelve twelve days you're you're at Mathews.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about some of those names from a Steeler

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Speaker 1: About drive on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 3: Matt, we are as.

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Speaker 2: It took us a roundabout way of doing the math

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Speaker 2: there about twelve days away, say about twelve days away

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Speaker 2: to still give myself some wiggle room. Twelve days away

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Speaker 2: from the NFL trade deadline, A lot of big names available,

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Speaker 2: I think, and you know you brought this up to me.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember if it was the combine or training

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Speaker 4: Looking at it.

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Speaker 2: It's a great I think it's It's certainly part of

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Speaker 3: Little bit busier.

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Speaker 5: It used to be like one trade would have appen, yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: Like a second string middle linebacker.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, now we see big names moved,

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Speaker 4: So the head coaches right, right, right, like we don't

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Speaker 2: You know, I think every sport has gotten less and

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Speaker 3: Yes, Hockey, ye, hockey big time.

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Speaker 4: There, I'm sure of it. I was drinking highlights.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that is your that's been your twenty five

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Speaker 4: That's what. You can almost walk there. I mean it's

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Speaker 4: I think there's like two week seven or eight sellers

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Speaker 3: And that's why trade these guys have two more games.

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Speaker 2: Matt Trey Hendrickson I think is the most interesting name

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And again it's it's the it's the delicate act

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Speaker 2: This is a real This is a really interesting one

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Speaker 2: But if you have any chance of hanging around five

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Speaker 3: Is this is this?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you gotta play too.

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Speaker 2: Though they are a notoriously difficult organization to make trades.

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Speaker 4: I mean I've never talked trades, but on the plan

445
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:24,680
Speaker 4: will tell you.

446
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,679
Speaker 2: That's why the most if you look at NFL team's

447
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,439
Speaker 2: draft position and trades that they make on they're the

448
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,399
Speaker 2: most static of. If they're picking eighteen, they stay at eighteen.

449
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,040
Speaker 2: If they're picking twelve, they stay at twelve. If they're

450
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 2: picking twenty four, they stay at twenty four.

451
00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,159
Speaker 4: Which would make me crazy. Yeah, I mean, you got

452
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:41,440
Speaker 4: to be more flexible.

453
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,159
Speaker 3: You gotta, you gotta be way more flexible.

454
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,159
Speaker 2: Best team fits, according to ESPN dot Com, would be

455
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:48,719
Speaker 2: the Niners, the Eagles, and the Colts.

456
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 4: Niners losing Bosa and they just keep winning games makes

457
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:52,719
Speaker 4: a ton of legals.

458
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 3: I think you take off the list now that they

459
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 3: brought Brandon Grant, probably on the Colts. I would not

460
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 3: like to see that. That's dangerous defense.

461
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:05,159
Speaker 4: I would put the Lions. That's aggressive organization. Put him

462
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 4: upsit Hutchinson. I mean, oh baby, that would be scary. Yeah.

463
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,920
Speaker 3: Number two on this list is Jalen Waddle.

464
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 4: All right, real quick, there's a couple of these terrible teams.

465
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,679
Speaker 4: I can understand trading anybody, but I could also understand

466
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 4: he's part of the solution, not the problem, you know,

467
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,160
Speaker 4: like a lave, you know, like you know, a lave

468
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 4: or Waddle like Hall, like we d about. At least Hall,

469
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 4: though he's up after this year like a lave has

470
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 4: this year and next. Wattles under contract, he has at

471
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 4: least that, maybe even more. They recently gave him money.

472
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 4: And it's not like he's Hendrickson's you know age or this,

473
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 4: you know, not happy in the organization.

474
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 3: He's in the prime of his career.

475
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, could you get those guys from bad teams? Probably,

476
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 4: but I don't know if they have to go right,

477
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Right, you's gotta have somebody

478
00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 4: next year.

479
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 2: You absolutely do, especially if you're the Dolphins and you're

480
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 2: trying to more than likely hire a head coach at

481
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 2: some point, you want to have some Hey, look what

482
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 2: we got for you to work with and build around.

483
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 4: Not if Tyreek was still healthy. That that's the name.

484
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 4: It doesn't mean everybody has to go you.

485
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 2: Know, no again, you don't have to go full matted

486
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,880
Speaker 2: in that regard and just fire sale everybody. Number three

487
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:25,119
Speaker 2: on this list is Breise Hall contract contract year. A

488
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 2: lot of good teams would love some running back help.

489
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 4: Throw him on the Chiefs or you know.

490
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:35,880
Speaker 2: Chiefs, Chargers, and Texans listed the three potential landing spots.

491
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 4: Houston should definitely be on the phone with them, and

492
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,679
Speaker 4: the Jets should very much be interested in moving on

493
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 4: from that.

494
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 2: I would hate it if all three teams got all

495
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 2: three of those teams got him, because the Chiefs, Good Lord, Texans,

496
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,159
Speaker 2: Steelers could be complete competing for in the playoffs or

497
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 2: for a playoff spot with them.

498
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 3: Chargers, you're going to see them in three weeks.

499
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 2: You could be competing in the playoffs or for a

500
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 2: playoff spot with them.

501
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, those would be great fits. But I would And

502
00:22:59,040 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 3: if you're.

503
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 4: Legits that maybe you don't plan on resigning him because

504
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 4: you have so many other needs. You don't invest in

505
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 4: running backs when you're the worst in the league.

506
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 3: Not good business. No, Reek wooland number four. Uh, they're

507
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 3: a good team. But is he.

508
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 4: That's the thing.

509
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 3: He's much more system new defensive.

510
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 4: Thing is he's a Pete Carroll Cover three long Sherman

511
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 4: esque type guy. He's not a McDonald's got Yeah. I

512
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 4: mean it's so much and he hasn't played great.

513
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 2: ESPN says, of all these names, he's the most likely

514
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 2: to get traded Eagles, Falcons, Bucks as potential landing spots.

515
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 4: People would want them.

516
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 3: Philly. Philly needs another thing.

517
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 2: They need another corner because they're set in the slot

518
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 2: with with with and Mitchell is a star on the outside,

519
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 2: but the corner has been I mean, it's a massive

520
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 2: weakness that could be and we know Howie Roseman's aggressive

521
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 2: there in Philadelphia. I could I could definitely see that

522
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 2: being a being a deal that gets done. Jacobe Myers

523
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 2: comes up on this list.

524
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 4: Matt of the white outsid. I think he's the one

525
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 4: most likely to.

526
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 2: Move and you and I, I mean we talked about

527
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: him back at training camp. Yeah yeah yeah and team

528
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 2: fits Steelers, Giants, Patriots.

529
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 4: Okay. The other aspect that I don't know if we

530
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 4: talked about back then is I think that he's a

531
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 4: third round pick on Jack Besh, who's also a big

532
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 4: power slot that all though things have gone so miserably

533
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 4: for the Raiders, he's one of the few he likes promising, right,

534
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 4: so you have to do the youth movement. You're not

535
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 4: gonna give Meyers a contract. I don't know if the

536
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 4: new team would have to extend him immediately or if

537
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 4: you could talk half the season, and I think his

538
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 4: price keeps going down when he originally said he wanted traded.

539
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 3: I think it's two prices higher in August than it

540
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 3: is now.

541
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and out Raiders know that everyone the plant knows.

542
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 2: Everyone the planet knows they're selling, and they have somebody

543
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 2: in his role that they kind of like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

544
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 2: Mark Andrews on this list. I don't see that he

545
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 2: is in the last year of his deal. Isaiah like

546
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 2: also hits free agencies, so they're gonna have to pay.

547
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 4: You probably want some offseason talk that Andrews could go.

548
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 3: You probably don't want to pay two tight ends in

549
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 3: the same offseason. Probably the whole kind.

550
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 4: Of can't imagine that raven being a seller, even if

551
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 4: they lose again. Now maybe that would be. That would

552
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 4: be because maybe the math just tells you you got.

553
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 2: To team fits Jags Bucks Bills. According to ESPN.

554
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 4: Imagine the Ravens trade under the Bills.

555
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 3: Though I can't.

556
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 2: I can't, and of all the like, I know Knox

557
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 2: and ken Kine are world beaters, but I don't look

558
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 2: at Buffalo and go you need a tight end to

559
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 2: put you in the top Buffalo.

560
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 3: I'd rather go get a wide receiver.

561
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 4: You don't see many tight end trades period, you know.

562
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 2: Speaking of receivers, Chris o'lava also on this list, Steelers, Niners, Gen.

563
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 4: Waddle or the best receivers possible. I just don't know

564
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 4: that said team's gonna be psyched to give them away.

565
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 2: And you and I have talked about this too. Guys

566
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 2: like Olave, guys like Waddle rightfully, so I'm not knocking

567
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 2: them for this. They view themselves as number one wide receivers.

568
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 2: They're gonna want those type of contracts they're gonna.

569
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 4: Want, Oh, they're gonna get that kind of contract.

570
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 3: And they're gonna want that type of target share.

571
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, Water already got that contract.

572
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: I while in theory, yeah, sure, you'd love to add

573
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 2: someone like you'd love to add someone like Garrett Wilson,

574
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: you know, but in terms of again with business allocating

575
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 2: your resources, how they fit in their offense. Jacoby Myers

576
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 2: feels like the perfect fit because he's gonna expect to

577
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 2: be a number two wide receiver. He's gonna expect number

578
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 2: two wide receiver, money wide receiver to targets.

579
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 4: He wouldn't phase Austin either, because like Pounds.

580
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 2: He's gonna slot behind DK Metcalf, not thinking I'm pushing

581
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: that guy to be wide receiver number one a compliment.

582
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 4: I'm a spoke in the wheel, you know, right.

583
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 3: I think Chris o'lave is great, But I just you know, again,

584
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 3: those waters thirty million when they're.

585
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 2: Gonna make DK Metcalf money, and they're gonna want to

586
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: make DK, They're gonna want DK Metcalf targets rightfully, So

587
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 2: I'm not knocking those guys for that.

588
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 4: And then nice thing about them. If you would trade

589
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 4: for water or a lave, you inherit a contract, but

590
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 4: that also is gonna cost you a second round pack.

591
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 4: I mean, it's not going to be it's chief either.

592
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 4: Myers is a fifth.

593
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 2: Yes, and the Steelers do still have a lot of

594
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 2: draft capital and they still are going to get some

595
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 2: nice comp picks, But that Russell Wilson compick isn't gonna

596
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 2: be as high as we all find. And I would

597
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 2: have to look more into justin fields based off his

598
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 2: playing time and everything. He might have already hit his numbers,

599
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 2: but what if they benched see I don't know, Yeah, Matt.

600
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 2: Two good players on the Miami Dolphins defense listed here

601
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 2: as well too, and Jalen Phillips and Bradley Chubb.

602
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 4: I can see both being very attainable.

603
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 3: They're guys that, you know, if I'm the Niners, if

604
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 3: I'm the Lions.

605
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 4: They also have Chop Robinson last year's first round there,

606
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 4: they have a little bit of a surplus there.

607
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 2: If I'm the Niners, if I'm the Lions, heck maybe

608
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 2: if I'm even the Chiefs. These are the type of

609
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 2: moves I'm interested in making. Not going to break your bank,

610
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: but clearly going to make you a better team, going

611
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: to improve your defense.

612
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,479
Speaker 4: I really like Phillips, but he's had an extensive injury history,

613
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 4: like bad stuff, Like I mean when he was at

614
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 4: UCLA they retired him for a year. Yea, he came

615
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 4: back like I don't know the exact details. I think

616
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 4: it was like a knack, something bad.

617
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 2: A couple more here for us to uh, to close

618
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: down this conversation. Jermaine Johnson of the Jets, I'm also

619
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: listed on here.

620
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 4: You know, you have a lot of teams in then

621
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 4: mark for Edge Rusher.

622
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 2: You'd want to pick up his fifth year option for

623
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: next year, obviously, but it's just a little over thirteen

624
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 2: million dollars that's not a bad number for a for

625
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 2: a productive edge rusher.

626
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd have to study how well he's playing this year.

627
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 3: Eagles and Bears listed as fits.

628
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, but he was really really coming on strong

629
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 4: before he got injured a year ago.

630
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: Logan Wilson another Cincinnati Bengal popping up on this list.

631
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 4: Major youth movement at linebacker, like he's been kind of phased.

632
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: Out next year. Just a six million dollar salary and

633
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 2: cap hit.

634
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 3: Very manageable if they become sellers.

635
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 4: I would think he goes to.

636
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 3: I think so too.

637
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: He's not a light the world on fire superstar, but

638
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 2: he's a three down linebacker that's affordable.

639
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 4: And that's there's more of a shortage for those guys

640
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 4: than you think right now. Totally veteran.

641
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: You talk about that all the time. Yeah, it's like

642
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 2: other than offensive line, and that might be the biggest

643
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 2: shortage in the league. It's pretty bad is reliable off

644
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 2: ball linebackers.

645
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 4: Let alone stars. There aren't many stars.

646
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 2: Last ones that I want to run past you here.

647
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: Matt Trio of Tennessee Titans, another team that is clearly

648
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 2: looking to the future. Edge rusher art and key corner

649
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: Roger McCreery and Okwonkwo the tight end.

650
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 4: Ridley was another name i'd throw in there too, And

651
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 4: I think he's like an honorable mention.

652
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 3: I think he might be lower down on this.

653
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, I don't. If I were them,

654
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 4: I'd love to keep Simmons. Of course you're going to

655
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 4: keep Ward. Other than that, I mean, I don't think

656
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 4: i'd Zeitler could even go. I mean he's a thirty

657
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 4: five year old guard Pollard. I mean, they're a terrible

658
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 4: football team with a new coach coming in. I think

659
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 4: fire sale for them.

660
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 3: Hold on to Simmons.

661
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: I would, but because again he's one of those guys

662
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 2: that he's part of the solution.

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Speaker 3: Actually, no doubt, he's like the definition of that.

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Speaker 4: Like we got two really good defensive he's really good

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Speaker 4: to need the money. But if I were Howie Roseman,

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Speaker 4: I mean, in particular, the biggest spender, most aggressive GM

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Speaker 4: out there, I'm at least calling.

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Speaker 3: Right, right right, see what the price would be?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: Okay? I lied two more that I want to run

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Speaker 3: past you real quick.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Two guys that at one point were the bell of

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Speaker 2: the ball, Russell Wilson and Kirk Cousins would have been

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Speaker 2: the team, right. I think Kirk Cousins we have I

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Speaker 2: feel like we haven't talked about him. He's disappeared from

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Speaker 2: the from the lexicon here.

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Speaker 4: What about Minnesota, especially for Cousins, I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 4: they've had poor quarterback play.

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Speaker 3: If you're Atlanta, wouldn't you just kind of want to

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Speaker 3: get rid of him at this point?

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Speaker 4: Like the thing is, he's so nice, he doesn't cause

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Speaker 4: any problem.

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Speaker 3: It's true.

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Speaker 2: I mean, and I'm sure you love having him in

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Speaker 2: that room with Pennix every week, that they could sit

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Speaker 2: there and go over the film and tape together.

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Speaker 4: That's a lot of people have said. It's like usually

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Speaker 4: a big name quarterback, you get out of the building,

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Speaker 4: you move it over to the other guy. But Kirk's

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Speaker 4: just nice and he's like he gets it. He's fine

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Speaker 4: with it.

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Speaker 2: You know, you have to pay him a twenty million

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Speaker 2: dollar contract bonus in March for whoever acquired or sorry,

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Speaker 2: a ten million dollar contract bonus in March.

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Speaker 3: That's not backbreaking type money.

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Speaker 4: I mean a couple of days ago, we went through

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Speaker 4: the whole league of who needs a quarterback, But it's

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Speaker 4: a lot different of who needs a first round quarterback

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Speaker 4: as opposed to a thirty six year old quarterback. You know,

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Speaker 4: because are all the bad teams. I don't want to

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Speaker 4: the Miami doesn't want them.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know exactly right, Like for for Kirk Cousins,

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Speaker 2: they have Vikings as a trade partner. For Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 2: it's the Raiders and the Saints.

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Speaker 4: What are they gonna do with them?

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Speaker 3: Were the Raiders? What are the Raiders?

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Speaker 4: What's different than even if he.

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Speaker 2: Goes in there and he's better than Rattler, they're one

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Speaker 2: and five already.

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Speaker 4: The only way that those guys make sense other than

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Speaker 4: Minnesota is if an injury happens this week, sure, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean.

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Speaker 3: Or even next week and a team gets desperate.

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Speaker 4: Let's say Mahomes have him forbid. You know what if

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Speaker 4: he's going to miss six weeks, Josh Allen, I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's the Borough situation. It's yes, okay, we're a contender.

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Speaker 4: We lost our dude for the short term, but he's

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Speaker 4: coming back save the day for a while.

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Speaker 3: TJ.

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Speaker 2: Watt blows up Jordan Love and he's going to be

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Speaker 2: out with a rib injury. Ye, you know, if something

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Speaker 2: like that that, you're absolute right if something like that

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Speaker 2: happens in the next week, next call, then then it

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Speaker 2: I think becomes a viable conversation. But right now it

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Speaker 2: just doesn't feel like there's the market there.

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Speaker 4: And even if ill that Giants, I don't know if

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Speaker 4: I'd rather have Winston or Wilson or who they'd rather

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Speaker 4: have as their backup. I guess who's ever the better

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Speaker 4: influence on dark Yeah, which probably Winston. I mean, it

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Speaker 4: probably is just a hune.

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Speaker 2: But I think he's at least he's built for that

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Speaker 2: mold of he knows what he is at this study

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Speaker 2: more career where Russ still seems like the guy who

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Speaker 2: still wants to be a number one Matt, One more

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Speaker 2: segment to go. When we return on the other side,

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Speaker 2: we'll get to some tweets to close this thing down.

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Speaker 2: It is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the

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Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Your tunes about drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Down the home stretch here on a Thursday, Matt, and

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Speaker 2: what do you say we get to some tweets, although

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Speaker 2: you know what before we do real quick thoughts on

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Speaker 2: tonight's game. Another pretty good another intriguing Thursday night game.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of those Dinnesota Vikings and their quarterback situation, they

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Speaker 2: are in La at Sofi to take on the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: Another crossroads type game for these teams. If you're miss

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Speaker 2: if you're Minnesota, you get the four and three, you're

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Speaker 2: keeping your head above water. If you're the Chargers, you

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Speaker 2: get the five and three and you're like, Okay, we

752
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Speaker 2: survived some terrible injuries, We're still right where we want

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Speaker 2: to be. Chargers three and a half point favorites at

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Speaker 2: home tonight.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I really don't have a feeling on terms of

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Speaker 4: like who i'd pick or against the spread. I mean,

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Speaker 4: so then I would just take points. But that was

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Speaker 4: my takeaway was even though it doesn't matter because it's

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Speaker 4: NFCF NFC AFC kind of Steers packers where you don't

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Speaker 4: crush the other one with a loss or destroy your

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Speaker 4: your mathematical chances, it does seem like a crossroad for both.

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Speaker 4: And one of them got a stud quarterback, one of

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Speaker 4: them is really searching a quarterback, and it just feels like,

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Speaker 4: you lose a game like this are starting to really

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Speaker 4: drift out of it. I mean, I'm not sure a

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Speaker 4: win puts you back in it, but I feel like

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Speaker 4: a loss. Yeah, it's like, oh no, we're starting to

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Speaker 4: really drift out of this thing in our perspective. Offer.

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Speaker 2: I think, particularly from Minnesota, who who would fall to

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Speaker 2: three and four and then really be chasing the lines

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Speaker 2: and the Packers you're three and.

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Speaker 4: Four, would be pretty easy to come up with seven

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Speaker 4: NFC teams that are more deserving than you. Absolutely, Dallas

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Speaker 4: is coming on Chicago and some of these teams that

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Speaker 4: aren't the obvious ones.

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Speaker 2: I'm very interested to see how the Vikings defense looks tonight. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: after we much malign the Steelers defense but also kind

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Speaker 2: of gave them the grain of salt of this happens

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Speaker 2: a lot to Thursday road teams. Yeah, particularly veteran defenses.

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Speaker 2: Vikings have a veteran defense. It's it's a further trip

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Speaker 2: for them than even Cincinnati. I'll be interested to see

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Speaker 2: what that looks like, if Flores changes anything up, how

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Speaker 2: they hold up mm hm, you know, over the course

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Speaker 2: of three hours against Justin.

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Speaker 4: It should be a good game, though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it felt like the last couple of years,

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Speaker 2: the Thursday night games, you'd get like one or two

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Speaker 2: good ones at the beginning of the year and then

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Speaker 2: it'd be.

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Speaker 3: A lot of blay.

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Speaker 4: It was a lot of like bad afc.

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Speaker 2: Was like Jeff Bezos picked up the phone and was like,

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Speaker 2: you know how much I'm paying for this?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, give me something a little when they'd be playing

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Speaker 4: like Titans on man.

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Speaker 2: All right, Matt, a few tweets here to close us

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Speaker 2: down today. Me tweets and says, do you think the

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Speaker 2: Steelers should concentrate on bolstering the offense as much as

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Speaker 2: we can ahead of the trade deadline? We can compete

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Speaker 2: in track meets against teams like Cincinnati, Indianapolis, Buffalo, and Detroit.

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Speaker 3: Where would you wide receives.

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Speaker 4: It's been talked to death, but I mean I would

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Speaker 4: be very open to trading for Jacoby Meyers totally. And hey,

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Speaker 4: I'm still kicking the tires on a lave and waddle

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Speaker 4: another name. The tute names I like best are Myers

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Speaker 4: and Shaheed with the Saints too, because Shaheed's up after

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Speaker 4: the season. I don't even know if he was on

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Speaker 4: that trade list or not, but I think he could go.

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Speaker 4: He's a really dynamic player too. I mean, he's a

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Speaker 4: little redundant to Austin, but I don't care. He's just good.

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Speaker 4: You know. The rest of the offense, though, I mean,

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Speaker 4: you're not gonna get O line depth. Where else are

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Speaker 4: you looking? Yeah, I just don't really see it.

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Speaker 3: I don't either.

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Speaker 2: You're not in the running back market. O line forget

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Speaker 2: about it, I mean, and get scraps and yeah, you

817
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Speaker 2: don't need tight end. You don't need quarter back. Another

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Speaker 2: wide receiver feels like.

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Speaker 3: The I mean, the seems like the only move.

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Speaker 2: If you're going to push some chips to the center

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Speaker 2: of the table, that's the move to make.

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Speaker 4: And I've gotten a lot of people ask me, was like, well,

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Speaker 4: I know they have a lot invested financially on defense,

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Speaker 4: but the defense doesn't look good? What could you do

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Speaker 4: to get better?

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Speaker 3: And you know, yeah, I don't know for a veteran safety.

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Speaker 4: Right, I mean, you can bring Manca back. I mean

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Speaker 4: I know people like I'll do that. Like, yeah, that's

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Speaker 4: a pretty big investment though, too.

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Speaker 2: A big chunk of change to add to a defense

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Speaker 2: that everybody always likes to talk about how much change

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Speaker 2: they're making.

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Speaker 4: You get older and more expensive on defense with a

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Speaker 4: trade like that, Yeah, right.

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Speaker 2: Right, Savan tweets s v A n Span Yeah, tweets

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Speaker 2: and says, when you, guys, when you did your wide

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Speaker 2: Receiver rankings yesterday, you emphasized about a hundred times about

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Speaker 2: how they are right now today. Can you please explain

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Speaker 2: to me then, how JSN isn't number one? He leads

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Speaker 2: every category by a mile. That doesn't make sense to

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Speaker 2: me at all. It's a fair question.

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Speaker 4: That's a fair question.

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Speaker 2: And here's the thing though, this is this is the

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Speaker 2: balance of doing those today right now, power rankings type things.

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Speaker 2: M hm, Scotty Pippen, you've been using the Jordan analogy

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Speaker 2: a lot. Scotty Pippen might have had a better month

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Speaker 2: than Jordan at one point.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure he did.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't mean I'm still not I'm putting them ahead

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Speaker 2: of Jordan right right. JSN has been incredible. He leads

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Speaker 2: all of these categories by a significant chunk. But you

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Speaker 2: know who's like right behind him and all of them

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Speaker 2: is Jamar.

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Speaker 4: Chase, especially after last week.

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Speaker 2: And you know who had an incredible week tied a

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Speaker 2: record of Jerry Rice's last week. Yeah, it was Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 2: So it's it is a it is a fair question.

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Speaker 2: It's something I believe me. Span I thought about just

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Speaker 2: putting JSN number one. I really did, and maybe I

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Speaker 2: should have had him two or three behind Chase.

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Speaker 4: But I mean the coup Is numbers were bonkers too.

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Speaker 4: He's happening to get injured for a game.

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Speaker 2: McDonald's can put up more revenue than five guys. I

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Speaker 2: still know who has a better cheeseburger.

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Speaker 4: Right, So I've actually given your rankings some thought, not

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Speaker 4: negative question since we got together yesterday, and that you

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Speaker 4: built your list more based on twenty twenty five production

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Speaker 4: than I would have not seeing your list, Like if

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Speaker 4: it if it was best of the mat my ten

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Speaker 4: would have been close to.

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Speaker 1: It.

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Speaker 4: Might they maybe have been the same ten, but I

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Speaker 4: probably wouldn't have Pickens or Davante, and I would have

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Speaker 4: deferred to tape in history a little bit more. And

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Speaker 4: I'll still contend as great as JSN is, I would

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Speaker 4: rather cover JSN for sixty snaps than Chase. I means

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Speaker 4: Chase is better at football and JSN is incredible and

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Speaker 4: he's skyrocking up aboard.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a fair question by span, but I

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Speaker 2: think there's also fair nuance in there right from our perspective.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think if you asked any defensive coordinator

882
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 4: in league would rather play against Smith Jigo or Jamar Chase.

883
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 4: They would all say Smith Jega and then'd say, boy,

884
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 4: he's getting better and he's awesome.

885
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 3: I don't want to play against that guy.

886
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 4: But right right, if I have to pick, Paul.

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00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: Tweets and says, is Pickens better than DK Metcalf? Do

888
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: you think Aaron Rodgers could have kept Pickens?

889
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 3: And check?

890
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 4: I have no idea about the second party.

891
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 3: Backing off of that. Yeah, I who knows? Who knows?

892
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 3: I listen.

893
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Speaker 4: He might have despised him, He may have loved them,

894
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 4: what might have embraced him. He might have done the

895
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 4: Ceede Lamb thing we talked about yesterday.

896
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Speaker 2: And what George Pickens has done through the first eight

897
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 2: seven weeks of the season is crazy impressive. Yeah, but

898
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Speaker 2: that also doesn't Again, it's not just as simple as

899
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: he's putting up more production. His numbers are better. Yes,

900
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 2: he's better. We should have kept that guy. You know

901
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: you would have rather had that guy. It also doesn't

902
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 2: mean too that between now and Thanksgiving or between now

903
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: and Christmas, George Pickens couldn't do some George Pickens stuff,

904
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Speaker 2: and you lose him for a couple of weeks and

905
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: the head case stuff, the checking in and out of

906
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: game stuff. Yep, I think I did a good job

907
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 2: of giving Pickens his flowers yesterday.

908
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I thought you were very kind of But.

909
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean that that is now in perpetuity going forward.

910
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 4: Or that he'd be on the list if he was

911
00:40:59,200 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 4: a Steeler.

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00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 2: There's there's a lot more volatility around him than there

913
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: is the consistency. And then know what you're getting. George

914
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Speaker 2: Pickens is right now he is a ribi at Hyde

915
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 2: Park Steakhouse, but he could also in a couple of

916
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: weeks from now be Arby's Roast Beef. I know what

917
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: DK Metcalf is week in and week out going forward,

918
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: and I'm very confident in that.

919
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 4: Yes, and I would rather be tied to Metcalf than Pickens. Yes,

920
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 4: that's on game day and in the locker room, and

921
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 4: financially as we stand as opposed to extending them that

922
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 4: even you would have had to extend them, And that's

923
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Speaker 4: a different animal now. Many of the analytics people, a

924
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 4: lot of fantasy folks when that trade happened, and they

925
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 4: were one hundred percent right, and we're seeing it. Dak

926
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Speaker 4: and Pickens are peanut burn and jelly. Yeah, I mean

927
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 4: they are perfect for each other. They are, and Dallas

928
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 4: recognize that. And I mean, you know it's why they targeted.

929
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 5: Him, Yes they did, and not that Rogers would be

930
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 5: bad with them. And let's also it's perfect for him.

931
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Speaker 2: Let's also remember too that Ceedee Lamb has He was

932
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: back thelast week, but he's missed a few weeks in

933
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Speaker 2: a row, and so it was like it was Pickens

934
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Speaker 2: feeding time.

935
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Speaker 4: I mean it was the least.

936
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Speaker 2: He was the guy for the offense and he feed

937
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: I mean the table was set and he filled his

938
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 2: plate for sure.

939
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Speaker 4: But see, this won't change my opinion, but I'm really

940
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Speaker 4: interested this week and we'll bring it up probably tomorrow

941
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Speaker 4: and break down games they get the Broncos. I wonder

942
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 4: if I think certain goes on Pickens and because Lamb

943
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 4: operates out of the slot a lot, and they'll try

944
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 4: to help him, you know. And I'm not saying Pickens

945
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 4: won't like catch it on a pass. I mean I

946
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 4: don't think that at all, sure, but he might get

947
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 4: a different kind of treatment this upcoming week.

948
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Speaker 2: Last one for you, Matt from Andrew and this we'll

949
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 2: get out of here on a positive note. Okay, if

950
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 2: you everyone knows Mike Tomlin's record on the road, the

951
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: losses on Thursday Night, right, but if you take a

952
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: look at the outcome of the following game, it's very encouraging.

953
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Speaker 4: So I bet because long week he's good, short week

954
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 4: he's not.

955
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 2: In the last ten Thursday Night games that Mike Tomlin

956
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 2: has lost as a Steelers head coach, that states back

957
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 2: to two thousand and nine, I.

958
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 3: Guess the losses just the losses.

959
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 2: Okay, so ten, but let's take Cincinnati out of the

960
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 2: equation because we don't know the following game. So in

961
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 2: the last nine Thursday Night losses before that, the Steelers

962
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Speaker 2: are seven and two in the following game.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't surprise me.

964
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Speaker 2: One doesn't surprise me one bit. So that's an encouraging

965
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 2: kind of Hey, the Thursday Night losses are bad. The

966
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Speaker 2: good news of that is, more often than than not,

967
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: they make up for it if they get it right,

968
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Speaker 2: they rebound the following week.

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Speaker 3: I thought that that was a good stat pool By.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's great, and it doesn't shock me one bit.

971
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Speaker 3: Doesn't shock me one bit either.

972
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Speaker 4: Cam Hayward's and Pouncy's marinate on a loss for a

973
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Speaker 4: couple extra days. I bet it resonates through the building.

974
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Speaker 2: I bet you with a guy like Jalen Ramsey right now,

975
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Speaker 2: that's doing mister Rogers DK Metcalf. Certainly you don't think dk'

976
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 2: cho at a bit to get out there and make

977
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 2: up for that interception and all those things. And hopefully

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00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 2: I should say that trend continues Sunday night at Akershuer Stadium.

979
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Speaker 4: In cornerback room in particulars a lot of.

980
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 2: A lot of pride, a lot of pedigree, a lot

981
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Speaker 2: of Super Bowl rings, a lot of All pros, maybe

982
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 2: a future gold jacket in that room. And yeah, I'm very,

983
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Speaker 2: very excited to see how they respond on Sunday Night

984
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Speaker 2: against the Packers Tomorrow, matt we will deep dive into

985
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Speaker 2: that Sunday night football contest.

986
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Speaker 3: We'll catch up with Missy Matthews.

987
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Speaker 2: We'll have five Star Friday, We'll have all of our

988
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 2: NFL pick them, all the traditional fixings. Yeah, for the

989
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Speaker 2: Friday Show. But that will do it for us today.

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Speaker 2: Big thanks to the Dean of Doom, the lord of

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Speaker 2: living in his fears, Bob Labriola for joining us in

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Speaker 2: the first hour. Big shout out to our Video Producer

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Speaker 2: TV mister Tyler V for making sure we look nice

994
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Speaker 2: and handsome on the YouTube. And shout out to Nathan

995
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: hanging out with us and doing some training here today

996
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 2: in the studio, learning the reps, earning the reps here

997
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Speaker 2: as we get into the meat and potatoes of the

998
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Speaker 2: football season for Matt Williams and unus Uiler. Take care everybody.

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Speaker 2: We will talk to you tomorrow. As always, you know

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