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Speaker 1: for one, Shawnee want to be a part of the program. Now,

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court hearing major challenges to Biden's vaccine mandates.

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Speaker 1: There even some predicting we could get a stay or

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Speaker 1: some type of interim decision. From what I've heard of

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Speaker 1: this and you can listen, Um, I did not feel

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Speaker 1: as well. The Court's really ruling, as this Wall Street

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Speaker 1: Journal says, will will echo far beyond the current pandemic

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Speaker 1: as they take this up. And the issue here is,

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Speaker 1: you know, stretching the ambiguous statutes in the administration, you know,

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Speaker 1: the worker vaccine mandates by OSHA, the Occupation Safety and

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Speaker 1: Health Administration, and the Centers for Medicare Medicaid Services. The

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Speaker 1: Fifth and Sixth Circuits Courts of Appeal handed down conflicted

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Speaker 1: rulings on the ocean mandate. Three federal judges have enjoined

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Speaker 1: the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services in twenty five states.

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Speaker 1: The courts ruling will echo into the future about how

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Speaker 1: far an executive branch can go in rewriting statutes. And

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Speaker 1: I guess some justices will be tempted to defer the

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Speaker 1: executive given the pandemic emergency. But presidents have been increasingly

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Speaker 1: eager to find emergencies whenever they are politically convenient. So

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Speaker 1: that's the story there. We have other news about what's

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Speaker 1: going on in the world of COVID. Novak Djokovic has

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Speaker 1: been quarantined in Australia after originally been he was given

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Speaker 1: A battle has broken out between Jen Saki and rohn

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Speaker 1: just the opposite, you know. Ronda Santis now ordered a

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Speaker 1: million tests for at risk Floridians because Joe Biden ran

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Speaker 1: out of tests, just like ron Da Santis. Once Joe

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Speaker 1: the first time and the only time he's mentioned monoclonal antibodies. Well,

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, something that was never in

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Speaker 1: So DeSantis rightly goes out and buys his own. Now, unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: that's becoming harder and harder because the federal government is

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Speaker 1: that they have. And of course Americans all across the

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Speaker 1: country still cannot get COVID test, but the administration is

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Speaker 1: bragging we ordered another eight thousand, eight thousand, you know,

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Speaker 1: all a disaster. Anyway. Here to discuss all of this

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Speaker 1: is doctor Peter McCullough, he's the chief medical Advisor Truth

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Speaker 1: for Health Foundation, talking about the real questions of the vaccine,

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Speaker 1: the mandates and everything we've been discussing. Sir, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the program. Thanks for having me any chance. I doubt

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Speaker 1: you probably did. Like most of us, you're busy, you're working.

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Speaker 1: But any chance you heard in any of the oral

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Speaker 1: that was needed. There was beyond belief. With the omicron variant,

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Speaker 1: we are seeing a marketly reduced mortality. And this is

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Speaker 1: For omicron, Omicron is rapidly supplanting, is rapidly supplanting the

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Speaker 1: so it has displaced delta except with some rare exceptions.

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Speaker 1: That's true. And clinically, what the challenge is to figure

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Speaker 1: Regeneron and Eili Lily, here's my question. You know, Joe

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Speaker 1: that proposal. Now we've run out of tasks. We've had

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Speaker 1: virals that every doctor that I've talked to is extremely

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine if we had these drugs we could

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Speaker 1: the unforgivable part. You know, the only time we have

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Speaker 1: Within a matter of hours, eight or eight to twelve hours,

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Speaker 1: I felt noticeably better, and that they are such a

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Speaker 1: successful therapy. You're exactly right. We should be taking every

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Speaker 1: step we can to ensure that they are available to

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Speaker 1: every single American who needs one. But instead the Biden administration,

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Speaker 1: of course, we initially heard they were potentially rationing them

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Speaker 1: nothing to maximize the supply. It's all vaccine, vaccine, vaccine.

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Speaker 1: Pay no attention to these successful therapeutics. And well, listen

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Speaker 1: the whole mantra of follow the science, follow the science.

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Speaker 1: We're following the science. Would we be vaccinating five to

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Speaker 1: eleven year olds. The answer to that question is no, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's exactly right, And I think the failure of OSHA

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Speaker 1: today too, because, as some of the justices pointed out,

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Speaker 1: the theory behind this workplace vaccine mandate was that you

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Speaker 1: were going that everybody was the vaccine was somehow safe.

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Speaker 1: They could not get the virus, they could not transmit it,

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Speaker 1: and so the only people at risk in the workplace

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Speaker 1: of getting the virus. Were the unvaccinated, Well, that might

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Speaker 1: have been the impression of some people at the beginning

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Speaker 1: of November, but we know that that is absolutely false today.

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Speaker 1: So the OSHA got it wrong as well, not accepting

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Speaker 1: or not doing a good Joe Biden said again this

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Speaker 1: That's not true. He's just lying, I mean, And that's

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Speaker 1: the problem. They lied about mass their projections, they lied

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Speaker 1: about they have. You know, they keep raising the bar,

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Speaker 1: lowering the bar, changing standards almost you know, on a

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Speaker 1: daily basis. They've been wrong in every single projection. You know,

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Speaker 1: the idea that Joe actually said that we did see

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Speaker 1: amicron coming, What do you mean you didn't see it coming?

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Speaker 1: You know, we had just had the delta variant, and

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Speaker 1: we knew other variants were on the way and on

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Speaker 1: the other side of omicron, we're gonna have other variants.

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Speaker 1: We have one apparently now emerging in France that originally

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Speaker 1: began I believe they said in Cameroon. So is that

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Speaker 1: going to be like the mu variant that didn't go

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Speaker 1: the r dot two variant that didn't go far. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. But that's the thing about you know, COVID nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Early on we knew. I had one doctor say, this

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Speaker 1: is about as close to airborne omicron as any of

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Speaker 1: the variants out there. This are the most contagious. We

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Speaker 1: didn't know in the beginning if it would be as

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Speaker 1: deadly as delta. It appears not to be the case,

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Speaker 1: thank god. But that doesn't excuse the fact that they

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Speaker 1: don't have tests and that they don't have the anti

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Speaker 1: viral medicines. There's no operation warp speed for producing mass

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Speaker 1: producing these things or monoclonals. You know, eighteen months later,

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Speaker 1: how are we short on monoclonal antibodies? How is it

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Speaker 1: no American can get a test on demand at this point? Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: you hit the nail on the head. And look, you've

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Speaker 1: described the environment as it is. It's changing. What the

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Speaker 1: government thought they knew to be fact has actually turned

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Speaker 1: out to be false. And so in that situation, where

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Speaker 1: get a changing environment, why in the world would we

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Speaker 1: adopt a one size fits all coming down from the

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Speaker 1: geniuses in the federal government, this is the time when

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Speaker 1: you do not have one size fits all. You let

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Speaker 1: people trust the advice of their doctors, trust the emerging

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Speaker 1: evidence that's coming out, and don't let the federal government

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Speaker 1: tell everybody what to do. This is a situation where

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Speaker 1: you need flexibility, not mandates, and especially on constitutional mandates.

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Speaker 1: Coming from Watsonton, DC. All right, quick breakmore with Chris Kullback,

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Speaker 1: General counsel for the Alliance for Free Citizens, talking about

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court oral arguments on the vaccine mandate from

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Speaker 1: earlier today. As we continue,