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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink

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Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing, and we are going to talk

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Speaker 1: about the biggest news items of the week as well

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Speaker 1: as breakdown and preview the Ravens upcoming game against the

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders, the home opener at M and T

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Speaker 1: Banks Stadium. That's going to be really fun one. So, Garrett,

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Speaker 1: a fair amount of news coming this week, as always

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Speaker 1: during a game week, coming off the loss of the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs and now getting ready for the Raiders, and certainly

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Speaker 1: a big talking point on Wednesday was Lamar Jackson and

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Speaker 1: his running. You know, he ran sixteen times against the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: That was the most he's run in a game for

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Speaker 1: a couple of years. And he took some shots in

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Speaker 1: that game, including one that he opted to take where

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Speaker 1: he lowered the boom on a Chiefs cornerback. So what'd

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Speaker 1: you think about what Lamar said about his running and

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Speaker 1: do you think that it's going to continue?

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Speaker 2: You know the other part of it, too, is that

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Speaker 2: he did he did not practice on Monday. So the

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Speaker 2: Ravens had the long week, you know, they had a

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Speaker 2: weekend off after the Thursday game. Practice on Monday, he

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Speaker 2: did not participate in that. Then on Wednesday he practiced

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Speaker 2: and was not on the injury report. So he's a

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Speaker 2: full participant. There's no lingering issue here.

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Speaker 1: And he said he felt just fine on Monday. He

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Speaker 1: said it wasn't because of soreness, which was reported. He

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Speaker 1: said he just took a day off. Yeah, so that

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Speaker 1: was a bonus practice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was.

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Speaker 2: So I think I do not think that that will

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Speaker 2: be the stat line for Lamar Jackson consistently throughout the season.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to run that often. I

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Speaker 2: don't think he's going to have one hundred plus rushing

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Speaker 2: yards every game. I just don't think that's going to

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Speaker 2: be the general practice.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember. Did you go over under a thousand

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Speaker 1: rushing yards for Lamar?

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Speaker 3: I think I went under. We both went under.

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Speaker 1: We said, I yeah, not looking great right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he's on pace or well over that. That's the thing,

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Speaker 2: he said, right, yeah, So I think I don't think

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Speaker 2: that's going to be like the general mode of operation.

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Speaker 3: And Lamar basically said that as well.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it got Derek Henry here, they got Justice Hill,

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Speaker 2: so like he wants those guys to carry the workload

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Speaker 2: from a running depart He.

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Speaker 1: Was asked if if that's a sustainable formula. He said,

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to find out right, right, So that

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Speaker 1: to me, that was a one game thing, right, Like

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Speaker 1: Lamar really badly wanted to beat the Chiefs and he

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Speaker 1: kind of put it on his shoulders, and you know,

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Speaker 1: they're and just likes and likes and it's exactly well done, sir,

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Speaker 1: you know. And and protection was breaking down, he saw

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Speaker 1: avenues to run and he took him. And and so

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Speaker 1: that's just the way he plays the game. Like that

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Speaker 1: part is not going to change for Lamar Jackson. Now

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Speaker 1: do I think there are some games when you know,

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Speaker 1: he even said in the AFC Championship last year against them,

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Speaker 1: like he wasn't feeling great. You know, he wasn't feeling

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Speaker 1: like he could run as much. He was feeling all

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Speaker 1: right going into this game. So he said, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I want to beat these guys so bad. If that's

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Speaker 1: what presents himself.

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Speaker 2: I'll do it well that but like, yeah, that's what

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Speaker 2: I think, Like basically he will do both of these

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Speaker 2: of sustainability that the Ravens want, or Lamar Jackson wants

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Speaker 2: from a stat line standpoint for him. But I also

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Speaker 2: think he has made clear and the Ravens have made

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Speaker 2: clear that within games, he will do whatever it takes

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Speaker 2: to win games. So I don't I don't think as

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Speaker 2: Todd Mounkin and the Ravens that especially applied to the ship,

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Speaker 2: that definitely definitely applied to the Chiefs in particular. I

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Speaker 2: don't think as Todd Monkin is drawing things up this week,

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Speaker 2: he's saying, you know, we gotta get Lamar fifteen to

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Speaker 2: twenty carries, Like I don't think that's what he's putting

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Speaker 2: on the websorree this week, okay, And I don't think

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Speaker 2: Lamar would say go to Monky and say, hey man,

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Speaker 2: you got to give me more carries this week. I

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Speaker 2: don't think like that's what the conversation is. But like

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Speaker 2: he won't be hesitant to take off and run. And

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Speaker 2: if if it's a critical game, if it's the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: if it's situations where the Ravens feel like this is

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Speaker 2: not gonna go so far in the other direction to say, nah,

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Speaker 2: you know, we could we can beat this team if

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Speaker 2: Lamar ran, but we don't want to give him fifteen carries.

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Speaker 3: That's not who we are. Like, they're not going to

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Speaker 1: Here the rape when it comes to Lamar Jackson. From

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Speaker 1: the very beginning of drafting this guy, the Ravens have

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Speaker 1: not played scared. That's just not how they've operated, right,

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Speaker 1: And like it's funny I see this and I even

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Speaker 1: saw it this week with Jayden Daniels right where they're

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Speaker 1: like Dan Quinn I think was quoted as saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: they wanted him to hang in the pocket and throw

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Speaker 1: and running, you know, Like I want to see this

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Speaker 1: guy staying there and deliver, right, And like the Ravens

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Speaker 1: have just never played that game with Lamar. They've been like,

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Speaker 1: if he feels like he needs to run, run, you know.

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Speaker 1: DeVante Adams called him the best running runner ever ball carrier, right, like,

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Speaker 1: go for it. If you're the best, go for it,

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Speaker 1: and like, and that's why John Harball was even you know,

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Speaker 1: he was asked this week. You know, is there a

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Speaker 1: it comes to like, yeah, you want to let him run,

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Speaker 1: but you don't also want him to take this punishment,

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Speaker 1: this physical punishment. And like again John Harwall said, and

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Speaker 1: this has been the case over Lamar's entire career, like no,

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Speaker 1: like we're not gonna play that game. We're not gonna

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Speaker 1: play scared, We're not going to like fear could he

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Speaker 1: get hurt and all this stuff like that's just not

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Speaker 2: I mean, I go back to when we had Lamar

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Speaker 2: on the lounge right before the season and you asked him, basically,

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Speaker 2: are the days of you running for one thousand yards

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Speaker 2: over because you've become you've progressed as a passer and

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Speaker 3: And he was like, no, we'll see.

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Speaker 2: Like he didn't say like, yeah, I'm done with that.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to carry the ball that much. And

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Speaker 2: that was to me, that was evident in the opener.

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Speaker 2: And so I just think that like this, this this topic,

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Speaker 2: this question will be will remain a topic of conversation

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Speaker 2: for the rest of Lamar's career. It's been that way

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Speaker 2: for six years and now now a seventh and it

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Speaker 2: But he and the Ravens I think are much less

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep, all right.

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Speaker 2: So let's you know another I think takeaway for me

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Speaker 2: hearing from players, I think that, like, I really think

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Speaker 2: some ways that lost to Kansas City even made them

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Speaker 1: The opposite. Right, if the Ravens had beaten the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: let's say Isaiah Likely's toe is in bound.

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Speaker 3: Were about to do spin zone here?

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Speaker 1: Well, no, here we go, it was better.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just gonna say about the spin zone here.

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Speaker 1: two point version, they beat them at the buzzer. Right,

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Speaker 1: you know what the talking point this week would be,

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Speaker 1: you can't have a letdown. You know, you beat the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: It was this emotional draining win, but man, you have

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Speaker 1: the Raiders. It would be the classic letdown storyline. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: going into week two and now it's the opposite, right,

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Speaker 1: It's like, man, this tough law you played pretty well.

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Speaker 1: You almost beat the two times defending champions in their

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Speaker 1: now they're even hungrier to get it done. And I

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Speaker 1: On the flip side, like there would be like, man,

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Speaker 2: You know, I thought Kyle Hamilton summed it up pretty

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Speaker 2: well on multiple fronts.

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Speaker 3: He made the point that, like, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Glad that some of the issue issues that they had

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Speaker 2: and get us sorted out, and it kind of makes

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Speaker 2: it very clear that things that you need to improve on.

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Speaker 1: He also you want to immerve on those things with

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Speaker 2: Of course that would be the preference, but when you honestly,

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Speaker 2: when you lose a game, it makes it a little

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Speaker 2: bit more pressing to it like you can overlook things

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Speaker 2: at times, but yes, you would prefer to have a win.

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Speaker 2: But he also made the point that that after the game,

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Speaker 2: and he couldn't sleep because he kept thinking about the game.

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Speaker 2: Finally he did fall asleep and was dreaming about making

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Speaker 1: He was remembering all the sacks against Gardner Minshew that

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Speaker 1: he had last year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so he just said that he can't wait to

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Speaker 2: play again. And you know, speaking to Kyle like and

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Speaker 2: talk about someone taking accountability, that's pretty cool, you know.

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Speaker 2: He he on the play on the second Xavier Worthy

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Speaker 2: to coverage, Kyle raised his hand and when he talked

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Speaker 2: That was my fault, one hundred percent on me. He

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Speaker 2: just played the wrong coverage on that play.

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Speaker 1: You don't you don't often see that, to be honest,

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Speaker 1: especially on like those busted things, like you know, coaches

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Speaker 1: lot of times, you know, these players are like you know,

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Speaker 1: You're trying to establish yourself as a premier player in

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Speaker 1: the league and all this stuff. Is a good player

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Speaker 1: often you're not, like, yeah, I screwed that one up, right, Like, No,

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Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton's proven it. He's an All Pro. Everybody knows

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Speaker 1: he's one of the best players in the league already, right.

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Speaker 1: That play doesn't change that. Yeah. So but even with

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Speaker 1: that said, like to see a player and a team

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Speaker 1: says speaks to Kyle Hamilton's character and it speaks to

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Speaker 1: why he's a leader on this team.

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Speaker 2: I agree with that, And I also think when you

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Speaker 2: have you know, since since that game on last Thursday,

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Speaker 2: you've had your your two real key defensive leaders steca

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Speaker 2: step up and take accountability. Kyle did immediately after the game,

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Speaker 2: roquand Smith did, talking specifically about communication, some of the

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Speaker 2: the need to emphasize communication and that starts with him

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Speaker 1: So I I do think in the yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 3: I agree.

434
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Speaker 2: I mean I think that like if the Ravens, like

435
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Speaker 2: if if the Raiders were to come in here and

436
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 2: beat and upset the Ravens, I think the way that

437
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,320
Speaker 2: happens is that Max Crosby and Christian Wilkins and this

438
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,120
Speaker 2: defensive front that the Raiders have just wreck the game.

439
00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,600
Speaker 2: And they have and they're creating turnovers and they're wreaking

440
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,440
Speaker 2: havoc Like that to me is like priority number one.

441
00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 2: And they've got this great front, Like it's a really

442
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 2: really good front. Yeah, I think obviously the Ravens are

443
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,919
Speaker 2: big favorites in this game, but like that defensive front

444
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 2: is not one to at all take lately. It's it's

445
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,920
Speaker 2: it's one of the better ones in football. And so

446
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,840
Speaker 2: I think that, yeah, that that's going to be critical

447
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 2: for this team. And I'm curious to see how Todd

448
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 2: Monkin in this offensive line, what they do, I mean,

449
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,200
Speaker 2: how they keep it in an extra blockers, how they

450
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 2: handle it from a from a scheme standpoint, knowing just

451
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Speaker 2: how dynamic that group is.

452
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think that there's been a lot of

453
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 1: handering about the Ravens offensive line after that Chiefs game.

454
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 1: I do think that it was better than some people

455
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 1: are giving it credit for. Was it the best in league?

456
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 1: Certainly not, But when you compare it against other offensive

457
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 1: lines around the league, like it wasn't nearly close to

458
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:24,120
Speaker 1: the worst either, right, and John Harball referenced that and said, yeah,

459
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,919
Speaker 1: I watched the other ones around the league, like we're okay,

460
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like a lot of fan

461
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,160
Speaker 1: bases are complaining about their offensive lines right now. And

462
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 1: you know, even when you look at the Pro Football

463
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Speaker 1: Focus grades in terms of pass blocking, the Ravens were

464
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Speaker 1: among the leaders in grades and in pass blocking win

465
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Speaker 1: rate by ESPN. Ronnie Stanley was at one hundred percent,

466
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,160
Speaker 1: Tyler Linerbaum was at one hundred percent. You know, these

467
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 1: guys weren't that bad. And even you know, I know

468
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,919
Speaker 1: that we got this question in mail bag and it

469
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 1: was kind of like people are going back to the

470
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Speaker 1: off season decision to turn the page and rebuild this

471
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Speaker 1: offensive lines. Why are you did you do that? Why

472
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 1: did you do that? Right? Well, you know I added

473
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Speaker 1: this up. I went into the PFF grades and the

474
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 1: PFF grades for Andrew Vorehe's Daniel fought Lele and Patrick McCarry.

475
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Speaker 1: When you add those up cumulatively, were better than John Simpson,

476
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 1: Kevin Zeitler and Morgan Moses in week one. Yeah, okay,

477
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 1: it's one week, and the Ravens did it, by the way,

478
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 1: because they think those young guys have an upward trajectory

479
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: and those older, more expensive veterans have a downward trajectory.

480
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Speaker 2: Well, who was who was who struggled the most out

481
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Speaker 2: of the three who are no longer in Baltimore?

482
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Speaker 1: Moses? Interesting, Yeah, Moses had a rough one Okay, according

483
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 1: I didn't watch the game. According to the PFF, Yeah yeah,

484
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 1: And you know those Zeitler and Moses didn't practice for

485
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Speaker 1: large chunks of the offseason, not much at all. They're

486
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Speaker 1: coming off of surgery. They were more The Ravens had

487
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: a ton of cap savings. Like, look, it's one week.

488
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Speaker 1: The verdict on whether this is going to work out

489
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,199
Speaker 1: will be made much later in season. Sure, right, but

490
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 1: the Ravens are confident that our guys are going to

491
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Speaker 1: keep getting better, and I am right there with them.

492
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: I agree with that, and that the guys that left

493
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 1: will see but they're on the downward trajectory of their career.

494
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Speaker 2: I think that, Like you make a good point, which

495
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 2: is if you just talk to a fan of every

496
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 2: team in the league. Like, I don't know, this is

497
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 2: the most unscientific like study ever, but like fans never

498
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 2: like the offensive line, they never like the offensive play caller.

499
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Speaker 3: Like that's just always how it is.

500
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 2: It's like everyone's always just like I want to run

501
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 2: a different play.

502
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 3: Our guy, we call bad plays. We can't block.

503
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 2: That's what every fan says whenever you lose a game,

504
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 2: like that's it, even if you win. Sometimes that's what

505
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 2: every every fan says about their their play caller and

506
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 2: their offensive line. So I think that, like I agree

507
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 2: with you. I think that some of the some of

508
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 2: the strong, like there are things that need to clean

509
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 2: up and gave them up a strip sack in that game,

510
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 2: like that can't happen.

511
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 1: And Roger Rosengarten said this week that basically he got

512
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 1: the rookie yips on that play, you know, first snap

513
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 1: and you just got the yips. I thought he better

514
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: when he came back in you know, uh, not great,

515
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 1: But like I think another young player that has shown promise,

516
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: they want to keep giving him snaps. Since Patrick Cankerry

517
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 1: is the starter, but they want to keep working in

518
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: Rose Garden and getting them reps.

519
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think on with you. I do think that

520
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 2: this offensive line will will continue to improve. But but

521
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 2: like the continued improvement needs to happen fast, because as

522
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 2: we just spent all this time talking about, like this

523
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 2: is going to be a really really challenging test, and

524
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 2: you play it out, you keep going, like Micah Parcels

525
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 2: in the week after that, like there's no letup. Every

526
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 2: team has a great pass rusher, and especially kind of

527
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 2: early in the season, they're gonna have to face a

528
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 2: whole bunch of really talented guys and.

529
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Speaker 1: They need to be able to run the ball better.

530
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Speaker 1: That's really the thing. It wasn't so rough, you know that.

531
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Speaker 1: I think Ravens fans are jaded in part, but are

532
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 1: scarred in part by like the first pass that Lamar

533
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: Jackson threw. You know, Chris Jones just blew by fi

534
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: Lele and was in the backfield immediately right first past

535
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: the year, You're like, oh man, and that like stuck

536
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 1: with you, yeah, right, and then the strip sacking, right,

537
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: and so like those two plays really stuck out. But

538
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 1: like pass blocking was a lot better than the run blocking.

539
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: So to me, they got to get that a lot better. Yeah,

540
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: because you got Derrick Henry and if he you know,

541
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 1: he scored the touchdown his first game, but it wasn't

542
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 1: like a dynamic showing for Dereck Henry in this run

543
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: game outside of Lamar running the ball. And and that's

544
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: where you saw the Raiders get gashed last week against

545
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: the Chargers. JK. Dobbins broke several big ones on him,

546
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 1: had a long touchdown run against them.

547
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 2: Well, he had a touchdown run. He had a long

548
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 2: run and then he had a touchdown run long.

549
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 1: Touchdown two he got I think he had two, that's true.

550
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: He got long runs todown.

551
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, he got howked on the very long one, but.

552
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: He get off.

553
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know he's like you know, he's I think

554
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 2: he still doesn't totally have that top gear yet. But yeah, anyway,

555
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:51,959
Speaker 2: but he had a big day. He had. He had

556
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 2: over one hundred yards and a touchdown. And so, like

557
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 2: you hope that if the Ravens can hold up well

558
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 2: in the run blocking game, then Derrick Henery could be

559
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 2: talking about his first hundred yard game is raped exactly.

560
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: That's my point, and I think the Ravens need to

561
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: run block better in order for that to happen. Yeah,

562
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: another guy who has the potential certainly to wreck the game,

563
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: who we've already talked about is DeVante Adams. I mean

564
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 1: this is just point blank is one of the best

565
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: receivers in the NFL, right, no doubt about it, has

566
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: been for a decade, exactly, skill set, all that stuff,

567
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: Like he's the cream of the crop. Now, you know

568
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: when he went from Aaron Rodgers to now Gardner Minshew

569
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: and last year, you know, the Raiders did not have

570
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: a long term roplow and yeah, exactly, and so that

571
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: has certainly impacted his production. But like Gardner Minshew beat

572
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 1: the Ravens last year and completed some pretty impressive passes.

573
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: Can he get the ball to DeVante Adams? I have

574
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: no doubt? And so I also really like Brandon Stevens

575
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: and the Ravens corners and their ability. But like when

576
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: you're talking about threats to bust one and take over

577
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: a game, DeVante Adams is at the top list.

578
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 2: Also, Yeah, it seemed the whole Gardner Minshew conversation that

579
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: that seems to have been something that has been a

580
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 2: reminder for the Ravens this week potentially meetings. Like everybody

581
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 2: mentioned that from last year, like, hey, we know what Gardner,

582
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 2: Mitch you can do. He came in here with the

583
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 2: Colts and beat him, you know when the Ravens were

584
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 2: big favorites last year.

585
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 3: In that game.

586
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: So like Zach Moss had a big game in that game. Also,

587
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: he did the Colts running back, like the Ravens need

588
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 1: to make sure that's some mere white. The Raiders running

589
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: back doesn't do the same thing.

590
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 3: The other guy, too is brock Bowers, the rookie tight end.

591
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: So he led them in targets. Yeah, last week he

592
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: had eight targets in week one. Todd Monkin knows quite

593
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: well what brock Bowers can do. He coached him at Georgia.

594
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, he's a dynamic you know, he's kind of

595
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: like their Isaiah Likely right, He's like a wide receiver

596
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: slash tight end. I wonder if he calls himself a

597
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: chess piece.

598
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 3: Maybe he does.

599
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: And so a lot of attention is going to be

600
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: paid to Devonte Adams and making sure that he doesn't

601
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 1: break the game open. But you can't forget about brock

602
00:27:58,920 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: Bowers either.

603
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then on the other side of the ball,

604
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: I think that this is definitely a week where are

605
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 2: the defensive line. We just talked about them a little

606
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 2: bit ago, Like the defensive front they could get after

607
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 2: Minshew and the Chargers last week had four sacks. You know,

608
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 2: we talked about Mattabik and a Jabo and like, I

609
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 2: think that this this group that the Ravens have as

610
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 2: talented and I think that there's a there's potential there

611
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 2: for them to try to get after the quarterback.

612
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: Yep, I totally agree with that. I mean, this defensive front,

613
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: it has the chance. How many times have I said

614
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: it this offseason that the Ravens are going to have

615
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: one of the best defensive lines. You said, you're gonna

616
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: have to give me credit for that, all right.

617
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 3: I don't know that. I was on the other side

618
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 3: of that.

619
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: Yeah you were. Yeah, you're trying to silence me. So

620
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: I predict that Travis Jones is going to get his

621
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: first SEC in this game, all right.

622
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 2: I like that.

623
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: Lastly, I just want to point to the Ravens tight ends.

624
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: We talked about break brock Bauers, but you know, Isaiah Likely,

625
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember what he had. You

626
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: have a nice game, Yeah he did. Likely has three

627
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: consecutive games of a touchdown catch of twenty five twenty

628
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: five or more yards. That's pretty impressive. Going back to

629
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: last season, obviously, he has four straight games with at

630
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: least one oh no, sorry, six straight games with at

631
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: least one catch of twenty five or more yards. So

632
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: what do you think going into this game? Obviously it's

633
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: not going to be you know, he had twelve targets

634
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: versus marks two in Week one. It's not going to

635
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: be that unbalanced. But what do you think this looks

636
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: like for the Ravens tight ends long term?

637
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: I think it's basically it's I think by the season's

638
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 2: end they're going to have very similar numbers.

639
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 3: And I think, yeah, I think they're both.

640
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: I told Wes Moore, I know when picking this fantasy

641
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: team this advice, you listen to me.

642
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: I hope the Governor listened to you, because I mean

643
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: that the video came out just to fit listeners and

644
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 2: viewers don't know this. Basically, Wes Moore, Governor did a

645
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 2: video where he was asking for some fantasy football advice.

646
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 2: He called us, of course, the experts here. I told

647
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 2: him Lar Jackson, that pick was looking pretty good. You

648
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: told him Isaiah likely late round steal and that's also

649
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Speaker 2: a letter that's very good. So anyway, I think that

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Speaker 2: their numbers will be pretty similar by the end of

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Speaker 2: the season. I think they're both probably in that like

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Speaker 2: eight to nine hundred yard range is like kind of

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Speaker 2: my guess. And I think there's gonna be some games.

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Speaker 2: Obviously Likely had the big game and Mark didn't have

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Speaker 2: a big game. It's gonna be flipped the other direction too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's gonna be some two catch games for Isaiah

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Speaker 1: likely and.

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Speaker 3: Ten catch game for Mark Andrews.

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Speaker 2: And Lamar Jackson said this week, which is something that

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Speaker 2: we said on our film breakdown. Mark Andrews was getting

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Speaker 2: doubled a ton, and Lamar said that, like that's something

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs do, Like they don't want Mark to beat him,

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Speaker 2: and so they double him a ton, They bracked him

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Speaker 2: in coverage, they put a lot of attention, a lot

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Speaker 2: of eyes on him, and so Isaiah likely didn't have

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Speaker 2: as much attention. Well, he made the most of it.

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Speaker 2: And I think that that's gonna flip at times. And

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Speaker 2: do not like this whole notion of like, wow, Isaiah

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Speaker 2: likely has overtaken Mark Andrews and all this conversation that's

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Speaker 2: out there right now. Isaiah likely is great, but I'm

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Speaker 2: just don't don't forget about Mark Andrews.

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Speaker 3: Here and the Ravens certainly are not.

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Speaker 2: So I think that Mark's gonna have maybe it's this game,

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Speaker 2: but he's going to have a very good year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that. Well, the Ravens, as you

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Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, are heavy favorites to beat the Raiders, but

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Speaker 1: this is a good team coming into M and T

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Speaker 1: Banks Stadium. The Ravens have only once lost back to

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Speaker 1: back games to start a season under John Harbal. That

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Speaker 1: was that disastrous twenty fifteen year. I think it was

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Speaker 1: that that was a rough year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've eliminated that from the memory bank.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, and so I expect the Ravens to

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Speaker 1: bounce back in a big way in this game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And one quick thing, just on the injury front for

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Speaker 2: the Ravens, adsa Isaac rookie pass rusher, a third round pick.

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Speaker 2: He did return to practice this week as a limited participant.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's going to make it to

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Speaker 2: the game and be able to play, but it's.

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Speaker 1: At least sounded pretty optimistic.

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Speaker 3: It's at least.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's good that he's back on the field,

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Speaker 2: and we'll see where that goes for him, but I

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Speaker 2: think it's good to have him back. Kyle van Noy

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Speaker 2: not practicing it, he's he's set on his podcast. He

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Speaker 2: has a fractured orbital bone and so we'll see exactly

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Speaker 2: how long term that is. But you know he is,

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Speaker 2: he is dealing with that. So maybe I dis Isaac

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Speaker 2: if he's healthy enough, steps into that role of Kyleve

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Speaker 2: and no, I can't go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed, Well, Garrett, it's gonna be a beautiful day

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Speaker 1: at M and T Banks see him. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: even more beautiful because the Rivens are gonna get him

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Speaker 1: when against the Raiders. Let's go