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Speaker 2: What a cool perspective. I like, my heart hurts a

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Speaker 2: with what was going on in your like irl?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so season one of Laguna was my freshman year

443
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Speaker 1: of college. I transferred to UCLA my junior year because

444
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Speaker 1: in the UC school system you can transfer your junior year.

445
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Speaker 1: And by that time, The Hills had begun, and so

446
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Speaker 1: I moved to LA and I joined that show, and

447
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: I needed a job.

448
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Speaker 4: And you know, we got.

449
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Speaker 1: Paid a little bit of money for season one and

450
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Speaker 1: season two of Laguna, you know, like a couple thousand dollars.

451
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Speaker 1: And by the time The Hills was on, I think

452
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Speaker 1: that the first season had already premiered and was pretty popular.

453
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Speaker 1: And so it felt like a good opportunity and a

454
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Speaker 1: good job because I could go to school and then

455
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Speaker 1: I could I could work for you know, a few

456
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Speaker 1: hours every week. And to me, at that point, it

457
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: was really kind of an escape because socially, like the

458
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: environment at school was so uncomfortable at that point that

459
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: like it did feel like an escape to be able

460
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Speaker 1: to go and you know, see people on the show

461
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 1: and film and feel like, you know, I was like

462
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Speaker 1: appreciated in some way, you know, like I was like

463
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Speaker 1: part of something. And so it was that balance between

464
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Speaker 1: school and work. And then by my senior year, you know,

465
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Speaker 1: the show was really kind of at its peak of

466
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Speaker 1: popularity and viewership. I graduated in two thousand and eight,

467
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Speaker 1: and then for a few years after, you know, working

468
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Speaker 1: on the Hills was my was my full time job,

469
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Speaker 1: and you know got paid, you know, was paid to

470
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Speaker 1: reflect that and it was It was great, apart from

471
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Speaker 1: sort of just the continuous weird social aspect of it.

472
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Speaker 1: And at that time, you know, like Perez Hilton was

473
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Speaker 1: becoming a thing and gossip blogs were becoming a thing,

474
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Speaker 1: and so that sort of became the new struggle socially,

475
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Speaker 1: you know, and like we were in LA and paparazzi

476
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: started to follow us and stuff. It was so weird,

477
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: and so that kind of became the new norm with

478
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Speaker 1: its own set of struggles, I would say. And the

479
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Speaker 1: show ended in twenty ten, and by twenty twelve, I

480
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Speaker 1: was like, all right, I'm out of here.

481
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Speaker 4: I'm moving to New York.

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Speaker 2: Wow. So that's the catalyst for you making that big

483
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Speaker 2: move to New York and when you make that move,

484
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Speaker 2: obviously you have to adjust to all that is. Living

485
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 2: in Manhattan a very different lifestyle than living in LA

486
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Speaker 2: Talk to me about what that was like for you.

487
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Speaker 1: So I have this one story that feels monumental to me,

488
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: and it probably is not as significant to other people.

489
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Speaker 1: But I remember when I first moved to New York.

490
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Speaker 1: You know, New Yorker's had this attitude, right, and I

491
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: definitely have it at this point because I've lived here

492
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: for almost a decade, but just this confidence, you know

493
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Speaker 1: what I mean, And you know, it's like a no

494
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: bullshit kind of attitude. And I remember walking into a

495
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Speaker 1: coffee shop one morning when I had first arrived, and

496
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Speaker 1: I got up and I realized that it was cash only,

497
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Speaker 1: and I didn't know that before I went in, and

498
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Speaker 1: I was so horrified that I didn't know that it

499
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Speaker 1: was this cash only coffee shop. And so, you know,

500
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: like I left and I took, you know, like I

501
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: did my order and I ran out like when I

502
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Speaker 1: got cash and came back, and I just remember being

503
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Speaker 1: so embarrassed because I thought that New Yorkers were so

504
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: cool and so intimidating, and I had already like messed

505
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Speaker 1: up in my like local little coffee moment, you know,

506
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Speaker 1: with a kind of like kind of mean barista behind

507
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Speaker 1: the counter and the long line behind me, and I

508
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I'm in New York. Now, I gotta,

509
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta figure out how to survive at

510
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Speaker 1: these cash only coffee shops.

511
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Speaker 2: Oh my god. I mean it could be worse. You

512
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Speaker 2: could have like accidentally upstood someone for a cab and

513
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Speaker 2: like stood in front of them, or I'm sure I

514
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Speaker 2: have so many New.

515
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Speaker 1: York I'm sure I've made all the mistakes. But you know,

516
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Speaker 1: for me, moving to New York was really just like

517
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Speaker 1: a breath of fresh air and an escape. And I

518
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Speaker 1: had been a number of times over the previous few

519
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Speaker 1: years working with MTV because TRL was in Times Square

520
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: and you know, MTV was head ordered in Manhattan, and

521
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: so we got to come, you know, pretty often. And

522
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Speaker 1: so my love affair with New York City started, you know,

523
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Speaker 1: in my early twenties, and I moved, yeah when I

524
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Speaker 1: guess I was maybe turning twenty five or twenty four,

525
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Speaker 1: and it just it was the first few years were

526
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: so magical. New York is an amazing place, and like

527
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: being in New York City right now during this pandemic

528
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Speaker 1: and recording this episode, and like thinking about the time

529
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: that I have spent here like truly just makes my

530
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: heart hurt a little bit, you know, because like the

531
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: city is like sick right now, and it just makes

532
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:40,479
Speaker 1: me feel so overwhelmingly sad because I feel like like

533
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: I'm such a part of the fabric at this point

534
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: because I've been here for so long. Anyway, But when

535
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Speaker 1: I when I first moved to New York, I found

536
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Speaker 1: a summer rental that was listed in the New York Times.

537
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Speaker 1: Because street Easy didn't exist back then.

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Speaker 2: I literally just made a hand gesture and then I

539
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 2: realized that no one can see that, but wow, a

540
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 2: New York Times summer rental listing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it was on Bethune Street in the West Village,

542
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Speaker 1: And it was an apartment that my friend and I

543
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Speaker 1: charmingly called the cat Hotel. It was the third floor

544
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Speaker 1: of Brownstone on Bethune Street, but it was a totally

545
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Speaker 1: like decrepit rundown brown Stone, And there was a woman

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Speaker 1: that lived on the first floor who you know, was

547
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Speaker 1: in her older years and she loved cats and she

548
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Speaker 1: would let her cats roam the hallways of the building,

549
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Speaker 1: and so at night we would like hear her cats

550
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Speaker 1: scratching at our front door and like meowing to try

551
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Speaker 1: to get in. And her daughter actually owned the third

552
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: floor apartment and rented it every summer, and so it

553
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: was fully furnished and all of like the furniture and

554
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: art and everything was all cat themed. Oh my god,

555
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: the doorbell was like a cat doorbell. The internet password

556
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: was tons of Cats Abounding zero. And the woman who

557
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: owned the building was also a hoarder, and so it was.

558
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Speaker 1: It was it was like a very interesting introduction to

559
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Speaker 1: New York.

560
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 4: City that was like so raw and real and so

561
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Speaker 4: New York.

562
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 2: Everything that has been waiting for you right here totally.

563
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Speaker 1: And my mother came to visit me once and the

564
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: toilet had stopped working, and they had taken the toilet

565
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Speaker 1: out of the bathroom and it was sitting in our

566
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Speaker 1: like quote unquote living room, and the woman from the

567
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: first floor was up and like in her pajamas, Like

568
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: the cats were like walking around our apartment, and my

569
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: mom was like, what are you doing here?

570
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Speaker 2: Your poor mother was probably like, I had no idea

571
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: it was this bad. Wow.

572
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: Actually, when the toilet stopped working. We got a hotel

573
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Speaker 1: room for a few nights, and I was so relieved

574
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Speaker 1: to be with her at her hotel because this apartment

575
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: was so dirty and.

576
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: So run down, Oh my goodness.

577
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Speaker 1: But also probably one of the best summers of my

578
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Speaker 1: whole life. You know, come to New York, you're like

579
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Speaker 1: twenty five. You know it's hot outside, You go to

580
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: the Hamptons, and you ever, just life changes, you know

581
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Speaker 1: the best.

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Speaker 2: What are you doing for work at that time?

583
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Speaker 1: At that point, I was working on another startup with

584
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Speaker 1: a friend of mine, and that was sort of like

585
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Speaker 1: the quote unquote reason we moved to New York. We

586
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Speaker 1: were like, you know what, the environment is really friendly

587
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: for female entrepreneurs in New York City right now, and

588
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: let's let's go do it there. And it's a it's

589
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: a funny idea. We were trying to sell this like

590
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: party in a box concept, and it was in twenty twelve,

591
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: and so it was before any of the stores had

592
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: cute disposable party stuff, like literally the only option was Party.

593
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 4: City and everything there. Well, you know what it's.

594
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: Like there, and so we thought that we have this

595
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: great idea, and it turns out it is very challenging

596
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Speaker 1: when you don't have a great supply chain to put

597
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Speaker 1: you know, like twenty things into a box at an

598
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: affordable price point, and like maintain your margins and ship

599
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: it in a box that's small enough, et cetera, et cetera,

600
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Speaker 1: et cetera. And also back then, like none of this

601
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: amazing technology existed, like Shopify didn't exist. Back then, you

602
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: couldn't just like go build an e commerce site in

603
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: five minutes. You actually had to have somebody build you

604
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: a website. And so it was a struggle and the

605
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: business failed, but we chipped away at it for a

606
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: few years, and I took so many lessons away from

607
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: that experience and applied them to what I was starting

608
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: with Love Wellness that actually have you know, saved me

609
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: so much time and energy, and so even though it

610
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: was a failed business experiment, it definitely taught me many

611
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: many lessons. It kind of felt like going to business

612
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: school at the time without actually getting a business degree.

613
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: And then when we wound that business down, I decided

614
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Speaker 1: to go to culinary school because I've always had a

615
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: really deep passion for cooking and for food, and you know,

616
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: part of that played into the party in the box

617
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: thing because we were creating like menus and recipes and

618
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: like a whole experience within the system. And also at

619
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: that time, my television agents had been talking to like

620
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: Food Network and Cooking Channel and they were looking for

621
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: new talent, and you know, we had sort of extended

622
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: conversations with them about potentially me moving onto one of

623
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: those platforms and to cook for them. And so culinary

624
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: school for me was sort of like the next big

625
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: project that was tied to my career in a certain way.

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Speaker 4: You know, It's kind of like my next big opportunity.

627
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Speaker 2: It's always so interesting to come to terms with the

628
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 2: fact that you love cooking and you love food, but

629
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Speaker 2: as a New Yorker you're also dealing with the smallest

630
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Speaker 2: amount of kitchen space ever.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. So when I was another fun apartment story.

632
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Speaker 1: When I was in culinary school, one of my ex

633
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: boyfriends and I had just broken up and I moved

634
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: into the smallest apartment. It's on Prince and sixth Avenue,

635
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: and I didn't even have a kitchen. Like my kitchen

636
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: sink was like a bathroom sink, and I think it

637
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: got It had two burners and no counter space, and

638
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: it was like in the living room, which was very small,

639
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: and so I only cooked when I was at school

640
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: every day when I lived there, because I literally could

641
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: not cook in my apartment. But god, that was got

642
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: another awful apartment. I think like the main theme of

643
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Speaker 1: New Yorkers is awful apartments.

644
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Speaker 2: I remember before I moved to the apartment that I'm

645
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Speaker 2: in now, I was shown an apartment on the Upper

646
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: West Side and it was literally an apartment that a

647
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: college student would live in. It was like a college

648
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 2: dorm room. There was no kitchen at all as well,

649
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 2: and it had a hot plate. And I looked at

650
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Speaker 2: the broker after we walked in, and there was like

651
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Speaker 2: a girl sitting on her law did bed who was

652
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: about to move out. And I said, I am in

653
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: my late twenties. What made you think that I wanted

654
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Speaker 2: to move into this apartment? With all, with all respect sir,

655
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Speaker 2: this is not what I told you that I was

656
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Speaker 2: looking for.

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Speaker 4: Okay, times can be tough.

658
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 2: It's hard to find an apartment the New York apartment scene. Okay, Okay,

659
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Speaker 2: So you're in culinary school and how does that go

660
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Speaker 2: for you?

661
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Speaker 1: It went wonderful, probably like one of the best years

662
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Speaker 1: of my whole life. It was so exciting, and for me,

663
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 1: I really thrived on just the routine, to be honest

664
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: with you, and I've always been a good cook, and

665
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: so this was an opportunity for me to just really

666
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: learn and expand upon my skill set and really thrive

667
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: at something. Then like negotiations with Food Network Cooking Channel

668
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: like came to a halt. They decided that they didn't

669
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: want to move forward with me on any projects, and

670
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: so I felt like, oh, my gosh, I've invested so

671
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: much time and energy and love and passion into food

672
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: and now like my my dream is over, you know

673
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: what I mean. At that point, I had been creating

674
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: so much food content on YouTube and on my blog

675
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 1: and it.

676
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 4: Was going really well.

677
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: People were really interested in it. And even now when

678
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: I Instagram stories when I'm cooking, I get hundreds of

679
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: thousands of viewers. That's my most popular content. But you know,

680
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: like I've always just had this love for cooking, and

681
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: then the dream sort of fell apart. And it was

682
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: at that point that I was starting to not feel

683
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: my best, and so everything kind of like collided and

684
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: collapsed at once.

685
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Speaker 4: I would say, wow.

686
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: That sounds really overwhelming.

687
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.

688
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Speaker 1: You know, like you're working towards this goal. You know

689
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: for years, you've been in touch with these people, you

690
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: know that you like think you're going to have this

691
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: great new job. You've been putting in all this effort,

692
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: you know. Thankfully, when I was a culinary school, and

693
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: this really lends itself to my life now and my

694
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: business now, I did a firm to table program in

695
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: addition to kind of just like the traditional French cuisine,

696
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: and so there was a really big emphasis on nutrition

697
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:22,959
Speaker 1: and on food sourcing and really understanding how to make

698
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: nutritious meals that were just delicious. And so I started

699
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: to gain a pretty good understanding of nutrition and how

700
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: food could be used as medicine. And one of my chefs,

701
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: like the professors at school, you know, had shared with

702
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: me that her partner at what time had had cancer,

703
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: and so she started to cook only macrobiotic food and

704
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: help that person get a lot better. And so I

705
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: started to really learn about food and the power of food.

706
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 1: And you know, that experience in and of itself, I

707
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: didn't know it at the time, but would really we

708
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: lend itself well to kind of developing this wellness company.

709
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 1: And in regards to the supplements that we make because

710
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: you know the ingredients that we use, our organic herbs

711
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: and digestive enzymes and things like that, and so, you know,

712
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 1: in a weird way, I couldn't see it at the time,

713
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: but everything had. You know, you do everything for a

714
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: reason in the long run.

715
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Speaker 2: Taking a break from today's episode to give some love

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718
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Speaker 3: crafty in the kitchen. It can feel a little overwhelming.

719
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Speaker 3: I have been there.

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Speaker 2: Again, that's Daily Harvest dot com. And I think what's

736
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Speaker 2: also really interesting for you in this experience is that

737
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 2: you have found a way to bring some of those

738
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 2: passions into your next project. Before you made that hard pivot,

739
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: were you trying to think of other ways to utilize

740
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: what you had learned in culinary school.

741
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: You know, I think for me, when I make decisions,

742
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: I'm really good at diving in head first because I

743
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: strongly believe that if you make a decision and you

744
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: hate it, you can very easily make another decision. So

745
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 1: I'm never somebody that has been held back by fear

746
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: in that regard. And so, you know, the experience with

747
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: culinary school and with food only really supported what I

748
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: was doing next. And to be frank with you, I

749
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: was so unwell after kind of the series of disappointments

750
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 1: that I wasn't really doing anything for a period of time.

751
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: I was creating content, you know, and still continuing to

752
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: work with brands to create content to support myself financially.

753
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: But I was so unwell that I really wasn't doing anything.

754
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: I was living with a previous partner and it was

755
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: a bad relationship, and I was so depressed. I was

756
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: so sick every single day, you know, Like mostly what

757
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: I would do is like get up and like take

758
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: the dog out and like walk around Tribeca and like

759
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: try to put something out in the world to publish

760
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: that felt genuine. And it wasn't until I made the

761
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: switch and finally started to talk about what I was

762
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: going through physically, mentally, emotionally that I kind of got

763
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: inspired to move into the next thing, which was love wellness.

764
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 2: And when you have this idea, and I think this

765
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: can be a point of disconnection for a lot of

766
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 2: people because you have this idea, you're having this experience,

767
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 2: you want to do something with it. But how do

768
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 2: you take what is an idea for love wellness and

769
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 2: make it into a viable product, a viable thing, something

770
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: that you can actually pursue.

771
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: Sure, So for me, I think first and foremost it

772
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: kind of goes back to what I just said. When

773
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: I make a decision, I make a decision, it's it's

774
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: not that hard for me. I don't really second guess

775
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: myself and I kind of just go for it but reasonably,

776
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: so like I feel like I have a good sense

777
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 1: of like.

778
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 4: What's a good decision, what's a bad decision.

779
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 1: And so, you know, for me, I'm really good at

780
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: building stuff. I think I can even tie that back

781
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: to cooking, like that's building stuff. You know. I'm really

782
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: good at opening up the fridge and seeing what's in

783
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: it and taking anything that's in there and like making.

784
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 4: A cool meal.

785
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: And you can kind of think about building a business

786
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: in the same way. It's like, what are all of

787
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: the pieces of the recipe that I need, you know,

788
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: to to create something. And so when I first started,

789
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: the products came first because my doctors had introduced me

790
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: to products that were available from you know, kind of

791
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: like really small, kind of like mom and pop companies

792
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: that were more naturally derived kind of like stuff that

793
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: you could get at like a Natural Paths office. And

794
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: so I had some things that were kind of starting

795
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: points in terms of what I wanted products to be.

796
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 1: And really it was just kind of like the awakening

797
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: to the idea that was what was available in mass

798
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: for women.

799
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 4: Was just not working for women.

800
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: You know, like cleansers for women like.

801
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 4: Are bad for you.

802
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: But if you still want to use the cleanser that's

803
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: like a personal care cleanser, Like it should be made

804
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: with all natural ingredients and it should be pH balanced

805
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: to match the vaginal microbiome and there should be no

806
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: fragrance in it that's irritating to that part of the body.

807
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 4: But nothing like.

808
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: That existed, and so I was like, well, I can

809
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: make something like that, Like I'll work with my doctors

810
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 1: in a great chemist to like put together a formula.

811
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: And so it was sort of like knocking these products

812
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: down one by one, things that likested for a really

813
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: long time that just didn't really work for women or

814
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: serve women, and had been marketed towards women in like

815
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: a low key anti feminist way forever. And so I

816
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: kind of like built this list of like, Okay, you know,

817
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: these are products that like I have discovered work or

818
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: things that you know, we think will work. And so

819
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: that was really kind of like the first baseline was like, Okay,

820
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: if I were to dream of things that I wish

821
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: that I could buy in the store myself, what would

822
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: they be? And created kind of just that first baseline

823
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: of products and then from there figured it out by

824
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: myself with my cell phone and the internet, like how

825
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: to get them manufactured, and from there it all kind

826
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: of just fell into place.

827
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Speaker 2: It's really, I think, inspiring and impressive to many people

828
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 2: again who have these big ideas but just don't know

829
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: how to run after them or to go for their

830
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: big dreams. That you, again, like you just said, with

831
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: your cell phone and the internet, figured out the best

832
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: now steps. You talked about feeling really run down after

833
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: everything fell through with Colin near your school, and I

834
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 2: can only imagine when it's just you and your cell

835
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 2: phone and the internet, that there had to be a

836
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 2: time or two, especially at the beginning, when you felt

837
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: knocked down. Is there anything specific that you think about

838
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: when I ask you about those early quote unquote failures.

839
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: Probably the biggest challenges for me in the first year,

840
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 1: year and a half or that was that I was

841
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: operating the business by myself, and I didn't have any

842
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: touch points or like data to compare what I was

843
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: doing to like other companies out there, to know if

844
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: like what I was doing was like successful, or you know,

845
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: is my conversion right good? Whatever you know things that

846
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: like I know like the back of my hand now

847
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 1: because it's been four years, and you know, I didn't

848
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: get better right away, you know what I mean, Like

849
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: I was i started the business, but I was still

850
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: not feeling well, you know, like when when you're deal

851
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: with the deficiencies I was dealing with and with depression

852
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: and with anxiety. It's not like this overnight fix, and

853
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: anybody that has dealt with it knows that it can

854
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: be like a lengthy process. And so for me, Love

855
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: Wellness was like a like this amazing thing for me

856
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 1: to focus on day to day, but there were times

857
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 1: when I still felt so unwell that I wouldn't pay

858
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 1: attention to it, you know, and like the orders would

859
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: just come in and the fulfillment center would just fill them.

860
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: And so I would say that it really required me

861
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: getting better emotionally physically, or like ninety percent better to

862
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: get to a place where I decided that I wanted

863
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: to focus on love Wellness full time and commit all

864
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: of my time and energy to it, if that makes sense,

865
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: Because when I launched it, it was still kind of just

866
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: like a project, you know what I mean.

867
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's something that you can put your energy

868
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 2: into But I mean, at the end of the day,

869
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 2: it's that classic saying, if you don't put on your

870
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 2: oxygen bask first, then you can't help somebody else.

871
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 4: Totally, yes, And your exact.

872
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: Mission with love Wellness is to be able to help

873
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 2: women and help women decipher and figure out how to

874
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: help themselves.

875
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.

876
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: So now Love Wellness, I think I read has an

877
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 2: office and fifteen people on staff.

878
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 4: Yes, so we are based in Soho.

879
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: Well, we've been working from home now since March twelfth,

880
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: but normally we're based in Soho in the heart of

881
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 1: New York City. And yeah, we're about fifteen people right now,

882
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:46,439
Speaker 1: and the business has just grown so quickly. It's grown

883
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: three thousand percent in two years. We broke eight figures

884
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 1: of revenue in twenty nineteen, and so's it's like it's

885
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: really happening, which is just mind blowing and humbling to

886
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: me and really remarkable to see that we can make

887
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: an actual difference in people's lives, because that's what I

888
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 1: set out to do, and so to see that manifest

889
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: is like overwhelming sometimes.

890
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 2: And where can people buy the Love Wellness products?

891
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 1: So we have a few distribution channels, lovewlleness dot com.

892
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: It's like, you know where you can get all of

893
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: the stuff, and we also sell kits sort of like

894
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: exclusively on lovewlleness dot com, so we bundle different products together.

895
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 1: You can get everything on Amazon and then you can

896
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: also buy us at Olta Beauty. We were Alta's twenty

897
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 1: nineteen Emerging Brand of the Year, which is really exciting,

898
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 1: and so I know that. And if you're listening to

899
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,240
Speaker 1: this during sort of like the shutdowns, the Olta Beauty

900
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: retail locations are closed for right now, but Ulta dot

901
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: Com is still up and running obviously, and you can

902
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: get love Wellness there.

903
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 2: Also, when you look back on everything that has happened

904
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 2: thus far with love Wellness and you think about the

905
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 2: advice that you've been offered in building this company and

906
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 2: this brand, what would you say has been one of

907
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 2: the best pieces of advice that you have been offered?

908
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: You know, I think more than anything, it's to just

909
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: follow your gut. I knew from the beginning that there

910
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: was a market for this and an appetite for this,

911
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: even before I think a lot of women knew that

912
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: because it was an experience that I went through myself

913
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: and I hoped and prayed when I started the business

914
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 1: that I was not alone. So like it was a hunch,

915
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: but it was a really good hunch. And I have

916
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: kind of taken that or those gut instincts forward as

917
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: I have continued to develop the brand and develop products

918
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: and specifically develop like our brand pillars and who we

919
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: are and what we stand for and how we communicate

920
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 1: with our community, because I think that we do it

921
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: in a really remarkable way, Like we are kindness at

922
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 1: its core. Our ethos is to love yourself well. And

923
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: I see a lot of brands in the personal care

924
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: space that are that you know, sit on like one

925
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: end of two ends of the spectrum, as like old

926
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: school like Legacy don't know how to market to women,

927
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: and on the other end of the spectrum like hyper

928
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: feminist like shout vagina from the rooftops kind of thing.

929
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: And you know a lot of women or the majority

930
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: of the women aren't comfortable on either end of the spectrum.

931
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: They're kind of comfortable in the middle. Right At love Wellness,

932
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: we just want you to feel good about taking care

933
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: of your body. If you want to share that with

934
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: your friends, great, we love that. If you still want

935
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: to keep your experience private and personal. Great, We're here

936
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: for that too, and so, like I said, like, we

937
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: are kindness at our core, and our goal is just

938
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,439
Speaker 1: to support women and to educate them and to help

939
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: them feel positive about taking care of their bodies.

940
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 4: So you know, that's that's really what we do.

941
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 2: Where where along the journey of founding Love Wellness and

942
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 2: growing the brand would you say that you felt as

943
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: though your personal health really turned a corner.

944
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 4: I would say.

945
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: About the start of twenty eighteen, because I launched the

946
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: business in October of twenty sixteen, that's like when we

947
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: went live, and so by the beginning of twenty eighteen,

948
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: I was really starting to feel good. And I had

949
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: actually spent some time in California. After I launched the brand,

950
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: I went through a really, really bad breakup that didn't

951
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 1: help either, and so spent some time in California to

952
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: kind of like rest, recover, recuperate. It was during that

953
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: period that I was like, Okay, I'm like all in

954
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: on this Love Wellness thing, and then moved back to

955
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: New York City and it was at that point that

956
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 1: I really started to feel good and energized and like

957
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 1: I had something to like really work on every single day.

958
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 2: There's nothing worse than feeling like you can't figure out

959
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 2: what's going wrong with your own body.

960
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's terrible.

961
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: I would say, to be honest with you, like I

962
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: started the business to help other women because I felt like,

963
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: oh my god, my doctors have really helped me kind

964
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: of seen the light. And it turns out that the

965
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: business really saved me.

966
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 2: That's a beautiful revelation.

967
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it changed my life and it just

968
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: gave me purpose every single day, and so like, I'm

969
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: so thankful even during this moment that is really difficult

970
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: for everybody to be able to do what I do

971
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: every day.

972
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 2: When people come to your social media page, they might

973
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 2: see someone that they think they know and a beautiful

974
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 2: soul both on the outside and the inside. When you

975
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 2: wake up every day and you look in the mirror,

976
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 2: what is it that you seeing looking back.

977
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 1: At you, Well, my answer would probably be different if

978
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: we were not experiencing a pandemic.

979
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 4: Right now.

980
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 1: I'll be totally honest with you. I see somebody that

981
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: is like emotionally exhausted and just trying to do my

982
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: best every single day. If you had asked me this,

983
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: Like a few weeks ago, i'd be like somebody who

984
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: feels really good about the future. But we are experiencing

985
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 1: just you know, the most upside down thing. I think

986
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 1: of our lives thus far, say from like nine to eleven,

987
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: and so truly, like right now, I just I feel

988
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: emotionally exhausted and honestly Love Wellness still right now is

989
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: like why I'm able to get through my days. So like,

990
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: I'm just so thankful that I have this thing to

991
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: work on and to continue to iterate. And we really

992
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: have built a wonderful community of women Love Wellness customers.

993
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: People are interested in the brand, my team in and

994
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: of itself, and truly it's that community that is getting

995
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: me through this moment more than anything else. So yeah,

996
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,720
Speaker 1: I look in the mirror and I'm just I'm so tired.

997
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 2: I am right there with you. I'm in this. I

998
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 2: need to find out what the square footage of my

999
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 2: apartment is. But I'm in this one bedroom apartment on

1000
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 2: the Upper east Side, day in, day out, and I'm

1001
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 2: just thinking to myself, like, there is good that you

1002
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 2: can do from there. You have a purpose, just keep

1003
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,280
Speaker 2: going and keep pushing.

1004
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I know that there is light at

1005
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: the end of the tunnel, right, because all things have

1006
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: to come to an end, and this also will end

1007
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: or change in some way at some point over the

1008
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: next few months. I think the hard part about it

1009
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: is like when is that? And like, as humans, we

1010
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: don't really operate very well when we don't have good

1011
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: information or like you know stuff, or like have goals

1012
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 1: in sight, and so I think like that's part of

1013
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: why this is so particularly challenging for everybody is that

1014
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: there's just so much unknown out there, Like every quantity

1015
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: is unknown currently, you know what I mean.

1016
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, well I still have this job, will the.

1017
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: Business still be in business? Like can I pay my rent?

1018
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 1: Will my parents get sick? Like there's so many anxieties

1019
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 1: like hanging around us right now, and so all I'm

1020
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: trying to do every day is just like do my

1021
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: work and stay healthy and try to.

1022
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 4: Keep other people healthy.

1023
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 2: How do you inspire your team to stay well during

1024
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 2: this time?

1025
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: Well, we have established a really great schedule day to day,

1026
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: and Slack has been like our technology hero, so thank

1027
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: god that platform exists. We do team conference calls every

1028
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: morning for about forty five minutes, where everybody jumps in

1029
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: says hello, gives their daily update for the day, and

1030
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 1: then we also do check and calls with our team

1031
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: leads at the end of the day also, And so

1032
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: just being able to see people's faces even though it's digital,

1033
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 1: is really really helpful. And one of my primary roles

1034
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: in this moment is to be a cheerleader for everybody else,

1035
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 1: even if I have to fake it, Like I know

1036
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: that that is my responsibility, you know, like I keep

1037
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 1: the team together, and it's my job to boost morale

1038
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: and to keep everybody moving forward, even if I could

1039
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: use the morale boost myself. And so just being able

1040
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: to connect with everybody every day is really important.

1041
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 2: So to be that source of confidence and strength for

1042
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 2: other people. How not just right now, but typically do

1043
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 2: you give back to yourself?

1044
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: Hmm, Well, I'm pretty good at self care, I would say,

1045
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: I'm kind of this kind of the queen. I like,

1046
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,720
Speaker 1: am happy to take two baths a day, a steam shower, exercise,

1047
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: eat lots of vegetables, drink lots of water. So I'm

1048
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,760
Speaker 1: really good at taking care of my physical body.

1049
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 4: But I didn't always used to be this way.

1050
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: I had to become good at it through you know,

1051
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: my I don't want to call it illness right because

1052
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 1: like vitamin deficiencies, like you can get better from that.

1053
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 1: But from when I was not well, like I really

1054
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 1: had to learn and adopt a totally different lifestyle. But

1055
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 1: since I have, I really rely on all of these

1056
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 1: things to help me get through the day. But I

1057
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: would also say that, like it's also okay to be

1058
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: like an emotional mess and to break down, and like

1059
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 1: the past few days, like I have been on the brink,

1060
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, you know, like I'm away

1061
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: from my family, I'm totally isolated, and it's really challenging.

1062
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 1: And so as much as like self care is great,

1063
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: it's also okay to lean into your feelings and to

1064
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: just like sit in the shower and to just cry,

1065
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: because like nobody knows what we should be doing right now,

1066
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: and so like, if you have feelings, just feel them,

1067
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: allow your body to process the emotion and to at

1068
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: least get it out of your body. So like, don't

1069
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,479
Speaker 1: keep that energy pent up, because that's when things start

1070
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 1: to turn ugly on you.

1071
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 2: I love that piece of advice. The other day, I

1072
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 2: was taking a class and the instructor, just hold space

1073
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 2: for yourself, to feel. And I thought that was so

1074
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,439
Speaker 2: poignant and important because so often we feel as though

1075
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,439
Speaker 2: we should be a certain way, but right now there

1076
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 2: is no rule book whatsoever on what we should be

1077
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 2: doing or how we should be feeling.

1078
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no right way.

1079
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 2: All right, I'm going to wind us down here. Right now,

1080
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 2: you have an opportunity to offer yourself a piece of advice.

1081
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 2: When you feel like your world is crumbling around you,

1082
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 2: you're not sure how to move forward, you're fresh out

1083
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 2: of culinary school and figuring things out, you have an

1084
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 2: opportunity to offer yourself one piece of advice. Looking back

1085
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 2: on that, now, what do you tell yourself?

1086
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: I would tell myself that no state is permanent, nothing

1087
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: is forever, and I think that that is equally as

1088
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: important to remember right now through this difficult moment, and

1089
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,479
Speaker 1: I wish that I had understood that in the same

1090
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: way back then. However, it did allow me to achieve

1091
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: quite a bit, you know, because from like the really

1092
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: dark places, you get a lot of energy and a

1093
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: lot of inspiration, and it's when a lot of really

1094
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: good work happens.

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Speaker 4: So I would just yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Just like you will get through this. There is light

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Speaker 1: at the at the end of the tunnel.

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Speaker 2: I love it. Thanks so much for your time today.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Emily, it's great.

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Speaker 2: Please take a moment and leave a quick review of

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Speaker 2: the podcast by clicking the link or the description to

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Speaker 2: this episode. We all face hurdles in life. I want

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Speaker 2: to hear about yours. Reach out to me at Emily

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Speaker 2: at Hurdle dot us, connect with the podcast, Instagram and

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Speaker 2: Twitter at Hurdle Podcast Low Where do they find you?

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Speaker 2: Where do they keep up with love Wellness? Give me the.

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Speaker 1: Details absolutely so you can find me on Instagram at

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Speaker 1: Low Bosworth. My Instagram's not that exciting though, so it

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Speaker 1: definitely recommend checking out the love Wellness instagram which is

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Speaker 1: at love Wellness and head over to lovewlleness dot com

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Speaker 1: to see what we can do for you.

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Speaker 2: I am at Emily a Baddi at Hurdle Podcast. Another

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Speaker 2: hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next time.