WEBVTT - Bonus Episode: Jay-Z Developments, Sid and Nancy, and a One Buck Utopia 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:04.800 Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life, 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:08.000 just to touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:12.000 This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:30.320 to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:32.680 a little thing we like to call the after party. 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:34.960 This is the show after the show, the party after 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:36.480 the party, the bridge to get you from one full 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:39.720 episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:43.240 into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:47.200 about this week's full episode subject said Vicious, Sean Diddy, 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:49.320 Combs and jay Z. We got an update for you. 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:51.840 We're getting into the next two episodes that are hitting 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:54.279 your feet in honor of the Academy Awards that are 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:56.960 coming up. First Dorothy Stratton and then our part two 0:00:56.960 --> 0:01:01.480 episode on Martin Scorsese, and we get into your voice, text, DMS, 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:05.000 emails and as always, a whole lot of rosie. Alright, 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:18.319 disc goes, let's get into it all right, So just 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:22.880 imagine we're not sitting here in February. We're not blanketed 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:25.520 in snow, We're not freezing our butts off. Imagine it's 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:29.440 the summer. It's summer twenty twenty five, there's a worldwide 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:32.880 cooling in temperature. It's perfect weather everywhere. It's seventy two 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:36.360 and sunny. There's no humidity at the beach. This morning, 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:38.800 you pulled a perfect pearl from an oyster. It was 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:41.480 your second pearl on what seems like an endless vacation. 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:44.960 There's peace in the Middle East. At home here in America, 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:48.400 there's consensus among voters and our leaders on the direction 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:50.880 of the country is to follow Morrissey and Johnny mar 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:53.400 They've reunited the Smiths, as have Jack and Meg White 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:55.760 the White Stripes. Both bands are on tour right now 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:58.040 and tickets are only twenty bucks each. There are no 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:02.400 additional fees. Even Okay, Congress has passed the Buck Stops 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:06.000 Here Bill, a bipartisan piece of legislation that makes it 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:08.480 illegal to charge more than a dollar for a hot dog, 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:12.079 a coffee, or a glass of cheap beer. And Sean 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:17.480 Ditty Combs has just been convicted of sex trafficking, racketeering, conspiracy, 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:21.800 and transportation to engage in prostitution. The evidence against Ditty 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:25.560 numerous videotapes showing him committing unthinkable sex crimes against his 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:28.639 victims while being cheered on by other complicit a list 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:32.480 celebrities is so damning that he's given the maximum sentence 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:35.320 one hundred years plus life in a federal prison where 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:39.680 he will spend all of the rest of his breathing moments. 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:42.640 You want all of these things to happen, sure, but 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.359 that doesn't mean that they will. Okay, we didn't get 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:47.640 justice for sid Vicius's death. You can hear all about 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:49.840 that in this week's full episode of Disgrace San And 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:52.799 this past week we learned that the case against jay 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:56.520 Z was thrown out and that got me thinking, what 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:59.720 in the hell is actually going to happen with this 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:04.280 coming Sean Diddy Comb's trial. Do we think Comb's is guilty. 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:06.799 That's a tough question. We've talked about it a bunch here, 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:09.600 and you know we have evolving opinions on this, all right. 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:13.880 Combs has been indicted and legally accused in multiple cases, 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:18.440 criminal and civil, of sexual assault, abuse, and sex trafficking. 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:22.400 Sean Diddy Combs denies all of these charges. Now when 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:25.040 the court of public opinion, Combs has also been accused 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:28.840 of a lot of other things, Okay, of grooming, of 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:34.800 running a large scale celebrity blackmail operation and even of murder. 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:39.040 Over on TikTok. With one quick search, you can find 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:42.160 numerous videos accusing Sean Diddy Combs of murdering his ex 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:45.640 wife kim Porter, of conspiring with jay Z to have 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:48.680 so called Becky with the Good Hair to have her oft. 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:51.400 There are those who accuse Sean Combs of having something 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:53.760 to do with the deaths of Andre Herrel and Heavy d, 0:03:54.240 --> 0:04:00.280 even Aliyah and Whitney Houston TikTok conspiracy theories about Sean Combs. However, 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:03.800 they do not stop there. The hip hop mogul is 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:08.160 not only accused of sexually grooming underage pop stars Usher 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:11.480 at the time and Justin Bieber also at the time. 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:15.560 But you can hear and you can watch on TikTok 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:21.360 ai Sean Combs. You can see this artificial intelligence content. 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:25.239 You can see how do we refer to that AI content? 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:30.240 Doesn't sound right anyways, It's AI generated content depicting Comb's 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:36.560 raping and abusing Meek Mill, Bad Bunny and that fat 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:39.720 dude from Family Matters the Dad. Not only are you 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:41.960 going to get this deep fake content over on TikTok 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:46.160 again audio and video, you're gonna get testimony from members 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:49.920 of Sean Combs's inner circle, all right, mostly bodyguards and such, 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:57.080 testifying on video corroborating these wild conspiracy theories. Now, to 0:04:57.120 --> 0:05:01.599 my knowledge, Sean Diddy Combs hasn't dignified these rumors. These 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:04.120 the wildest of these rumors were a response, and he 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:06.920 certainly hasn't admitted guilt in any way. And I am 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:12.000 in no way suggesting that he is culpable for the 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:15.800 wildest of these conspiracies that are being charged against Cobs 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:19.920 so far, other than the actual video we have showing 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:23.120 Sean did he Comb's viciously beating on his ex girlfriend 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:27.039 Cassie Ventura, who, lets remind ourselves, accused Combs of abuse. 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:29.960 Combs denied it, and then he settled with Cassie for 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.000 thirty million dollars a day later, and then he denied 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:34.440 all the subsequent abuse charges that were brought against him 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:37.680 after that, charges by Rodney Little, Rod Jones and others. 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.800 And then we saw and then we saw the video 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:43.680 of Comb's beating Cassie that not only proved that Combs 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:45.480 was an abuser, but it was also a proof that 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:47.400 he is a liar or was a liar. That he 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:50.000 lied about it. Okay, So aside from that evidence, however, 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:52.719 nothing has leaked. No other evidence has leaked. There's been 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:55.559 zero other evidence proving Sean Combs is guilty in any 0:05:55.640 --> 0:06:00.120 of these seedier, more outrageous TikTok conspiracy theories which bring 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:03.359 me to jay Z. Jay Z is wrapped up with 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:05.760 Sean Combs and a lot of these conspiracy theories as 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:09.400 well over on TikTok and the civil case against jay 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:12.479 Z that was just thrown out last week a couple 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:15.920 of days ago, had a lot to do with Sean Combs. Okay, 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:21.200 but puff it's gone. Why we don't really fully know 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:27.200 yet officially because of quote unquote inconsistencies with the accuser's account, 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:29.640 and I'm betting there was also a lack of evidence here. 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:34.920 But that case is dead, jay Z free and clear. 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:38.560 How does this relate to Sean Diddy Combs. So what 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:42.640 we have to ask ourselves is the actual evidence against 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:46.680 Sean Diddy Combs. What is there that is going to 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:49.920 prevent Sean Diddy Combs and his case from going puff 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:52.800 the way the jay Z's did. How consistent are the 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:57.040 accounts from Sean Diddy Combs's accusers. How consistent are those 0:06:57.080 --> 0:07:00.559 accounts going to be on the stand. Let's cut the chase. 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:04.680 What I believe that most people want, and maybe this 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.320 is just because I'm fucked up and I'm being cynical here, 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:10.200 but what I believe that most people want is they 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:13.200 want Sean Ditty Combs to be found guilty, not only 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:15.880 everything that he's accused of legally in that federal indictment, 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.160 but also of everything that he's accused of on TikTok. 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.320 I think there's a burning appetite in this country after 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:25.680 years of injustice, particularly around the Jeffrey Epstein case. There's 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:28.080 a yearning for justice when it comes to powerful people, 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:31.720 particularly famous people who've abused their power, or who we 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:34.880 believe to have abused their power. And I believe that 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:37.840 most people want these atrocious conspiracy theories to be true, 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:41.640 and that they want Diddy to be found guilty, and 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:44.280 they want all of his celebrity friends to be found 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:47.679 guilty too. Lebron and Kevin, Oprah and Gail and Ellen 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:50.200 and Ashton and even the Donald. They're all on tape, right, 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:53.200 They all gotta burn alongside Ditty? Am I one of 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:57.240 these people? I don't know? Some days, sometimes I want 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.960 the most entertaining outcome to be true just out of 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:03.760 pure selfishness. The caveman part of me, I guess, wants 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:08.360 some vengeance, but I try to keep that instinct pretty 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:12.560 tamped down for the most part. You know, Ultimately, more 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:16.880 than anything, I don't want these stories, the crazy conspiracy 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:18.679 TikTok theory, I don't want any of it to be true. 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:19.120 You know. 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:22.000 I actually think that the best outcome is that Sean 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:25.880 Diddy Coombs is actually innocent of what he's being accused of, 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:28.480 because then there's no victims, then there's no collateral damage. 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:33.280 I do I think that's going to happen. No, Do 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:35.120 I think he's guilty of what he's being accused of 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:37.480 on TikTok, of all these wild conspiracy theories. Do I 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:39.480 think that he's going to be convicted of that We're 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.480 going to find out it, you know, factually, that he 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:43.960 did these things and that he's going to go to 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:45.360 jail for them. As I teed it up at the 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:49.760 beginning of this episode, I don't think so. That said, 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:55.280 I'm not naive. Where there's smoke, there's fire, But we 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:57.680 have to look at the facts, especially in light of 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:01.280 this jay Z case being dismissed again on account of 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:05.840 inconsistencies with the accusers account and likely lack of evidence. 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:13.720 How strong is the evidence against Shandity Combs. We don't know, okay, 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:17.319 but we've heard nothing about evidence that the Feds have 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:22.400 that his legal accusers have. We've heard nothing in the 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:25.080 way of real evidence. I'm not talking again, I'm not 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:31.040 talking about the TikTok accusations. We've heard nothing and we've 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:36.920 seen nothing that supports any of those TikTok conspiracy theories. Nothing, 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:41.160 all right. All we know for sure is the following. 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:46.880 Shandy Combs is in jail awaiting trial. The Feds, his 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:52.240 accusers believe in this case. They brought the case. The 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:55.120 judge believes Combs is too big a threat to be 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:58.719 let out on bail. We don't know what the evidence is. 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:03.079 We can only assume it supports the sexual assault, the abuse, 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:05.760 the sex trafficking, and the RICO charges that the federal 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:09.120 government is charging him with as of yet. As of late, 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:12.120 no other high profile friends of Sean Combs have been 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:15.040 legally accused, except for jay Z, who had the case 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:18.920 thrown out again for inconsistencies from his accuser is Sean 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:22.320 Didty Comb's going to be found guilty when he stands 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:25.199 trial in two months. I don't know. Do I think 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:28.240 we're going to get earth shattering evidence that incriminates not 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:32.400 only Combs but also his A list celebrity friends in 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:35.199 crimes that are unspeakable in most places except for the 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:38.680 dark corners of TikTok At this point, judging by what 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:41.200 went down with the jay Z case, and giving that 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:44.440 there's been no again there's been no other actual evidence 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:50.920 released or leaked to suggest otherwise, I really don't think so. However, 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:53.760 this is still America, and just like Sean Didty, Combs 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:56.280 maintains his right to plead the fifth so as not 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:58.719 to incriminate himself, I maintained the right to change my 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.920 mind new evidence. I'm not a dumb ass, but this 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:03.560 is where I'm at at the moment. This jay Z 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:05.400 thing threw me. I did not see this coming. I 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:08.160 did not see this thing getting thrown out. So that's 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:09.920 where we're at. I haven't done a Diddy update in 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:13.560 a while. That's the Diddy update you know again out 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:15.160 here throwing it at you guys because of the jay 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:18.240 Z news. Thought I should bring it up. It's definitely changed, 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:21.120 adjusting the way that I'm thinking. It's definitely affecting the 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.439 way that I'm thinking I should say. But I'm interested 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:24.959 to know what you guys think, all right, So hit 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:26.439 me up and let me know what do you think 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:28.960 is going to happen here with Sean Combs. Now, I 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:31.160 mentioned it at the top of the show, the injustice 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:33.480 surrounding Sid Vicious' death. We get into that in this 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:36.560 week's full episode on Sid and Nancy, a classic Love 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:39.120 Kills episode of disgrace slaying that we brought back for 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:43.880 Valentine's Day. Now, the Oscars they're coming up, and with 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:47.240 it being Valentine's Day, so the Valentine's Day Day season, 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:49.920 I guess we have another wild love Kills them story. 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:53.440 But again because the Oscars are coming, this love Kills 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:57.319 themed episode comes from Hollywood. It's on Dorothy Stratton. Now, 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:59.719 if you do not know who Dorothy Stratton is, do 0:11:59.880 --> 0:12:03.120 not let that stop you from listening. Dorothy was the 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:06.720 next big thing, a true beauty, a perfect ten a 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:10.040 dime spot, a woman so gorgeous. Playboy Hugh Hefner called 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:14.040 her the next Marilyn Monroe. All right. That was the 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:18.320 promise of Dorothy Stratton's burgeoning Hollywood career, and then it 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:22.640 all ended quickly, violently, and disastrously. And I'm not going 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:25.400 to spoil it, but let's just say that this story 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:29.439 is so compelling. It's inspired multiple films, including by the 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:33.680 Great Bob Fosse his excellent Star eighty with Eric Roberts, 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:37.440 and also multiple songs like the Red Hot Chili Pepper's Californication, 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:41.160 Brian Adams's Cuts like a Knife. So check out this 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:44.640 episode on Dorothy Stratton, and then and then, and then, 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.360 and then the following episode before we talk again in 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:49.800 the next after party. You're gonna get another episode that's 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.640 coming on Tuesday. It's Oscar themed as well. It is 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:57.160 the wild story about the murder that director Martin Scorsese 0:12:57.440 --> 0:13:02.000 did not commit. The murder Martin Scorsese needed his friends 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:06.000 Steven Spielberg and others to talk him out of on 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:10.959 one legendary Hollywood night. This might be my favorite episode yet. 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:14.319 It might be my favorite episode that I've written. Okay, 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:17.360 I love it that much and I cannot wait for 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:19.200 you to hear it. I wanted to tell this one 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:21.440 for a while. The story is legendary in Hollywood. It 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:23.640 was rumored to be true forever, but it wasn't confirmed. 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:26.800 Quentin Tarantino would speak about it from time to time, 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:31.199 and then in twenty fourteen, I believe Scorsese and Spielberg 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:35.880 appeared together and confirmed it. It's a vicious story of 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:40.160 violence and creative obsession and artistic commitment, and it involves 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:43.240 some of the greatest directors, not only of the seventies 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:46.200 but just from Hollywood history in general. When you're listening 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.320 to it, I want you to be thinking of this, 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:53.400 Who is your favorite filmmaker and why which director? Martin Scorsese, 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:57.400 Steven Spielberg, Brian DePalma, any of the guys from this episode. 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.480 This episode guys, it's like remember the Muppet mupp Babies. 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:04.400 It's like Muppet babies for awesome Hollywood directors. This is 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:09.600 about Scorsese, Spielberg, Brian de Palma, John Millius, Paul Schrader. 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:11.839 When they're all just you know, coming up in the 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:15.000 in the seventies. It's it's like their origin story in 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:17.480 a way. That's the backdrop. Anyways, it's really solely about 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:19.920 Martin Scorsese. But all these guys are characters in it, 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:22.800 and it just begs the question, the question that I 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:24.600 want you to be thinking about when you're listening to 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:28.480 this episode, which is which director slash filmmaker makes the 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:32.080 movies that resonate most with you and why I want 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:33.680 to know let me know six one seven nine oh 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:37.560 six six six three eight voicemail and text at Disgrace 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:40.000 lampod on the Socials. That's going to be the question 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:42.640 of the week next week, relative to our episode on 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:45.760 Martin Scorsese coming this Tuesday, however, but before that, you're 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:48.400 getting that Dorothy Stratton episode. Don't forget that. I'm gonna 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:50.400 be back in a flash with the answers to last 0:14:50.400 --> 0:15:10.040 week's Question of the week right after this. All right, 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:11.760 we are back. Just a quick reminder to make sure 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.760 that all you Apple podcast listeners have auto downloads turned 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:16.080 on so you're not missing any episodes. 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:16.440 All right. 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:19.920 It has been a year since we started our all 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.920 Access membership, and I want to thank all of you 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:25.280 who have signed up and are receiving ad free episodes. 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:28.600 You're also receiving an extra exclusive episode per month, and 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:31.800 you get some extra bonus content here in the after party. Okay, 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:34.560 extra shout out also to all the all Access members 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:36.640 in Patreon who are in the chat with me and 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:39.640 the rest of the discos on a fairly regular basis. 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:41.080 I try to get in there every single day. I 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:43.240 do my best, all right, I just wanted to update you. 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:45.880 It's been a year since we started this. It's been awesome. 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:47.920 It's been an awesome experience for me. I've been able 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:50.200 to meet a bunch of you virtually, which has been great. 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:52.800 We've been even on screen. We've had some sort of 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:55.840 impromptu meetups, some book clubs, all kinds of stuff, and 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:58.600 it's been awesome getting to know you guys. So just 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:00.240 you know, it's been a year. Thank you, Thank you, 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:02.720 I appreciate it. Wanted to update you on how we're 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:05.880 going to be doing this in the future. Slight, slight, 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.640 slight change we're going forward. We're going to be releasing 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:13.120 one of our previously exclusive episodes into the wide feed 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:16.640 per month, but only after those exclusive episodes have been 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:20.120 exclusive for a full year. Doing this is going to 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:22.640 free us up to make even more content for you guys, 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:24.960 and it's going to allow those who can't afford to 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:27.240 pay the five dollars a monthly fee to eventually hear 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:29.480 all of the Disgracelane episodes. Granted they're gonna have to 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:32.200 wait a year to do so. 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All right six one seven nine oh six 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:38.840 six six three eight to leave me a voicemail, send 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:40.600 me a text. You can also reach me at Disgrace 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:46.639 lampod on Instagram, Facebook, and x relative two. This week's 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:49.320 episode on Sit and Nancy, we asked the question which 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:52.560 celebrity couples were the most toxic and this is what 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:56.040 we heard back from you, guys, ad on Instagram. Rights. Hey, hi, 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:58.480 Jake Ad from the four one to ero with my 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:01.320 contribution for the worst and roll couple, Which rock and 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:04.600 roll couple could possibly be worse? And the ultra cringey 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:08.760 couple of Jerry Lee Lewis and his thirteen year old 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:12.959 cousin Myra Gale. Hard to fault Myra Gale in this 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:14.880 whole thing, not that you're doing that four one zero, 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:19.520 but you know she was thirteen and uh what a 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:22.560 whirl win that stirred up. I hear you great one 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:24.480 name and you know, awesome for us to be able 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:26.840 to call back to our Jerry le Lewis episode. You 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:28.720 guys can check that out. That's in the archive. You 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:30.520 have not heard it yet. That is the very first 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:34.000 episode of Disgrace Sland. Chris Hillman on Spotify chimes in 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:36.800 on this topic, writing, Hey, Jake, didn't know much about 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:40.080 this story, but o MG crazy. I mean, Sid beats 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:43.160 the murder rap for killing Nancy and then his mother. Basically, well, 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:44.600 I'm not gonna give it away for you guys here. 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:48.000 What didn't see this coming at all? Awesome episode, love 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:51.720 definitely kills. As for worst rock and roll couples, my 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:55.439 pick is Pam and Tommy loved this podcast, Chris and 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:58.479 everyone else. I've long wanted to do a Pam and 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:00.879 Tommy episode, and maybe that's in the future. There's so 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:03.760 much so I did a Motley Crue episode. There's so 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:06.040 much more there, though, and a Pam and Tommy episode 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:09.080 might be a way in. All right, let's hear from 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:11.679 the five to four to oh on Sid and Nancy. 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:16.320 Hey Jake, this is justin from the five four zero. 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:24.400 I just finished listening to the didn't Nancy episode. I'm 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:27.480 only listening to that thing like four times probably, but 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:33.480 that is some of your best work. That is amazing. 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:38.240 I don't know, man, It's just the way you tell 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:41.439 the story. It comes across so vividly and so just 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:46.639 I mean, the utter despair and grit and grime of 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:52.040 nineteen seventies London, nineteen seventies New York. It was all 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:57.400 just you know, a complete shit show. But they had 0:19:57.440 --> 0:19:59.960 some of the best music in the whole damn world. 0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:02.920 And that's what Mike said, all right, But I appreciate 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:07.119 your story telling, man, I like that story. Rock and Rolling. 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:10.639 Justin thanks to your voicemail, Man, happy you're digging the 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:14.639 grime and the crime and the CID and the Nancy story. 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:18.280 Appreciate your call and appreciate your listening. Six one seven 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:22.640 nine oh six six six three eight. I talked last 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:25.280 week a little bit about and I think I did 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:27.439 it only in the Yeah, I did. I did the 0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:33.760 recommendations in the exclusive portion of the after party, so 0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:36.240 you guys missed out if you're not All Access members. 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:40.640 But I gave some Valentine's recommendations, and one of them 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:43.399 I won't I'll share it now because Valentine's Day has 0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:45.120 passed for the most part, I mean, I mean those 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:47.720 still some of us celebrating, you know, for the lovers 0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:50.600 out there, I recommended Rocky as one of my favorite 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:52.680 love stories and eight to eight rights and hey, Jake, 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:54.920 I cannot agree with you. More on the Rocky love story. 0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:57.240 When I proposed to my wife, I used Rocky's proposal 0:20:57.240 --> 0:21:00.760 to Adrian voice and all. It was awesome piece Lee 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:03.000 in the four one two Lee. That is some serious 0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:06.520 Rocky commitment there, proposing to your wife and the visistalone. 0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:09.640 Boyd you want to get married to? What? Okay, let's 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:12.000 see what else we got here? All right? More on 0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:15.000 Prince versus Michael Jackson. This one won't die three h 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:17.240 two writes in I will die on the hill of 0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:20.600 not being able to compare Prince and Michael Jackson. Sure 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:24.240 they were of the same time, Sure they benefited from MTV, 0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:27.480 but what they did was colossally different. MJ was a 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:30.560 pop singer and dancer. Prince was a musician. He played 0:21:30.600 --> 0:21:35.720 the instruments and all styles of music. He was pop, rock, soul, funk, jazz, blues, 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:38.840 and sprinkled gospel and even did at least one rap. 0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:42.159 There's styles as musicians were hugely different. Okay, there's styles. 0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:45.240 Weren't that different. I mean, come on, you're really really 0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:47.760 nippicking here. I think to say that Prince and Michael 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:54.560 Jackson's styles were did you say colossally different, hugely different? Yeah? Man, 0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:56.840 I don't know. I feel like this is like saying 0:21:56.920 --> 0:22:02.680 you can't compare Pedro Martinez to Manny Ramirez because one 0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:05.600 guy was a pitcher and the guy was a hitter. 0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:08.520 They both played during the same time, they both contributed 0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:11.000 to the game at the same time. Who would you 0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:13.600 rather have on your team? Type of thing? Right, you 0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:15.440 know what I'm saying. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong, 0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:19.080 Maybe I'm in the wrong. I like, you know, I 0:22:19.160 --> 0:22:22.399 like this. I like this one, Prince versus Michael Jackson. 0:22:22.480 --> 0:22:24.600 You guys like it too. Keep it coming, all right? 0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:26.640 This one comes from the three to two three. Hey man, 0:22:26.880 --> 0:22:29.080 Spike here from Hollywood. I just wanted to say thank 0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:31.840