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Speaker 1: Happy holidays everyone.

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Speaker 2: We are re releasing our most popular episode of twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five today to close out the year. This is

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Speaker 2: our book club episode with our friend Joe Firestone, where

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Speaker 2: we discuss her book Murder on Sex Island, which you

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Speaker 2: can still purchase wherever books are sold. We will be

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Speaker 2: back with new episodes January thirteenth, and in the meantime,

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Speaker 2: you can find tickets to our two San Francisco shows

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Speaker 2: on January twenty second and twenty third at linktree dot com,

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Speaker 2: slash Stradio lab or on the SF sketch Fest website.

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Speaker 2: And you can also see me George do stand up

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Speaker 2: in London on February twenty third at the Soho Theater

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Speaker 2: and tickets to that are in my Instagram bio and

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Speaker 2: on the Soho Theater website.

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Speaker 1: So that's it for now. Enjoy the episode and we'll

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Speaker 1: see you soon. Start the podcast. Did you come prepared

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Speaker 1: or not? No?

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Speaker 3: Listen, listen, listen.

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Speaker 1: We're doing this as a favorite and I know that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to send you something.

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Speaker 1: After Okay, don't do you want us to die?

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Speaker 3: I know exactly what I'm getting for both of you.

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Speaker 4: Don't do that, Joe like, you're getting a gift. Too

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Speaker 4: many gifts for people.

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Speaker 1: I've never gotten a gift.

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Speaker 3: Say, I've given Sam eighteen gifts, and each one he's

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Speaker 3: like thanks.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm like, you don't need to give me a gift,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I do think Sam, if

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Speaker 1: I may please, I could see Sam being more nervous

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Speaker 1: about how to respond to a gift than he is

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Speaker 1: happy about receiving it. Even if it's like the dream gift.

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Speaker 4: The stress outweighs the gift's value. I will say, you

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Speaker 4: have us.

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Speaker 1: I think it's funny because in fact, you follow social

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Speaker 1: norms perfectly, and no one is ever like wow, no

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Speaker 1: one's ever like Sam's rude. Sam didn't do something correctly,

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Speaker 1: and yet you have the fear of someone who does

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Speaker 1: has never actually heard of a social norm.

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Speaker 4: Well, the fear is what makes you act correctly, That's true.

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Speaker 4: If you don't have fear, you're going to act out.

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Speaker 3: Well. Sam told me a very important story about his

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Speaker 3: formative years.

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Speaker 1: What is it? Wait? What was that?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Nothing? Just remind me, it's just about your formative years.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about my formative years. Remind me, Yeah, tell us, Joe.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So basically Sam was young once.

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Speaker 1: And dragged me. Okay, not anymore.

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Speaker 3: Damn got me, Sam, whatever, I'm still twenty years older

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Speaker 3: than you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so that's really not sure. Seventieth birthday, you look amazing.

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Speaker 1: You look amazing.

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Speaker 3: I swear every time I say hey, Sam, how old

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Speaker 3: are you, he goes twenty six, and I'm like, that's crazy.

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Speaker 3: I just turned forty.

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Speaker 1: And I don't say that, Joe. I don't say that

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Speaker 1: my age.

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Speaker 3: You stay twenty six, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I do feel emotion emotionally twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where you stay.

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Speaker 1: Well, we were saying Sam and I are currently on

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Speaker 1: tour together doing stand up comedy and not podcasting or

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Speaker 1: anyone wondering good and which, by the way, I actually

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Speaker 1: want to come back to this because Sam said you

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Speaker 1: told him comedy is over.

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Speaker 4: Sam, Sam, Joe, Joe, we brought you in here to

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Speaker 4: sort of pretend we were going to talk about your book.

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Speaker 1: I'm here to expose you.

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Speaker 3: Almost. I don't understand. I really, I really was trying.

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Speaker 3: I was trying all week. I was like, I'm going

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Speaker 3: to be normal today.

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Speaker 1: You told Sam.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know.

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Speaker 4: I have a text message that says I'm not going

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Speaker 4: to be normal on Friday.

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Speaker 3: But I'm trying to be normal.

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Speaker 1: Well how do you it hadn't started yet. How did

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Speaker 3: Because I was kind of like, be normal, be normal,

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Speaker 3: because sometimes Sam and I sometimes basically what happens? Basically

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Speaker 3: it started off normal, just like you and me. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I they were normal, and then and then basically what

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Speaker 3: Yeah something?

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Speaker 1: Oh oh you mean like I thought you were saying

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Sam and I. I don't know what happened, but

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Speaker 4: This is so one sided. I feel so normal all

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Speaker 4: the time, I would say. Joe, for example, Joe and

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Speaker 4: I went out to a gorgeous dinner with a dear friend,

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Speaker 4: and Joe kept saying, let's be normal tonight. Can we

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Speaker 4: just be normal tonight? And I said, one hundred percent,

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Speaker 4: let's be normal. We're walking back and Joe see's a

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Speaker 4: cactus and goes, what would happen if I flipped upside

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Speaker 4: down and got stuck on this cactus, she says, and

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Speaker 4: then I start peeing on myself, and then I'm peeing

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Speaker 1: Then what happens?

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, okay, I'm laughing, Joe, that's a crazy

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Speaker 1: No, okay, just a few things off the bat. First

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Speaker 1: of all, cacti seemed to be a real theme with you,

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Speaker 1: because I noticed there was, in fact a cactus cactus

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Speaker 1: centric injury in this very book that you are here

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Speaker 1: to promote.

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Speaker 3: Murder bringing it to the promotion.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, do you think you? Uh? You said that

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Speaker 1: disgusting thing about the cactus to Sam in order to

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Speaker 1: sort of incept him into inviting you to be a

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Speaker 1: guest on our podcasting about your book on our inaugural

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Speaker 3: George, I'm not. I said please do Maggie Smith and

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Speaker 3: you like didn't listen to me?

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Speaker 1: Head Does she have a book out? Is she for

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Speaker 4: Wait, Joe, this is crazy because at our show in Chicago,

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Speaker 4: I brought up Maggie.

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Speaker 4: That's true, like completely randomly, we got Maggie Smith on

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Speaker 1: So because so.

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Speaker 3: Do we have the same dream once?

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Speaker 1: That is insane? First of all, Second of all, okay,

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Speaker 3: Say, is that you're twenty seven?

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Speaker 1: I'm twenty seven. No, Dragon, No, I'm perpetually fifty five,

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Speaker 1: and Sam is perpetually twenty six. And yet Sam is

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Speaker 1: actually more mature and responsible than me. Really, Yes, we

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Speaker 1: meet in the middle, We meet in the but Sam,

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Speaker 1: I threw line in Sam's current material, current half hour

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Speaker 1: for anyone out there listening is producing comedy specials. Is

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Speaker 1: that it's about his inner child?

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Speaker 3: Are you and are you doing any jokes at in

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Speaker 3: with the Bang Bang?

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Speaker 1: With the Bang Bang? The comedy Bangang is a different podcast.

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Speaker 1: This is Stradio Lab. We're owned by Will Ferrell's Big

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Speaker 1: Money Players exclusive deal with iHeart, and we are so

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Speaker 1: thrilled to have you on for our inaugural book club podcasts.

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Speaker 1: We become. Maggie Smith, author of Murder on Sex Island.

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Speaker 1: What's the Bang Bang?

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Speaker 3: You know you do this thing where you do the

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Speaker 3: bang bang with your foot?

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Speaker 1: Me?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you mean that that one show when I stomped

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was funny.

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Speaker 4: That was funny, But I didn't know it was going

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Speaker 4: to bang bang. I was wearing boots that I don't

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Speaker 3: You don't do that.

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Speaker 1: Again, that was less of a part of his material,

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Speaker 4: I stomped on the stage and it was so loud,

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Speaker 3: I don't wear boots on stage. Keep the boots in

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Speaker 3: the show.

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Speaker 1: You were talking about my formative years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, so basically I found out that Sam had

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Speaker 3: just switched schools a lot. I do know that, and

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Speaker 3: Sam stayed cool.

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Speaker 1: That's not true.

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Speaker 3: No, No, Sam stayed cool at.

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Speaker 1: I know more than you do.

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Speaker 3: And every school, every school.

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Speaker 4: George is thinking of when I moved to Southern Virginia,

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Speaker 4: I was bullied for at the beginning, but then I

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if that. I think you're both right.

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Speaker 1: Sam was bullied by Jeremy O. Harris. Did you know that? No,

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Speaker 3: Oh that's wonderful.

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Speaker 1: Oh why Jeremy is famous. Sam and Jeremy went to

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Speaker 1: I'm not making any of this up. And then Jeremy

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Speaker 3: Wow did Jeremy apologize?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it was very sweet.

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Speaker 1: It was actually really lovely. It was lovely.

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Speaker 3: How many times did you get that experience? Were you bullied?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 1: Wasn't bullied, but I also wasn't popular.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe it. I don't believe it.

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Speaker 1: I would say, Okay. When I was in New Jersey,

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Speaker 1: And then my family moved back to Greece, and then

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Speaker 1: up and to be That's what I did. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: imagine also being from a different country.

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Speaker 4: Okay, some would say the Midwest is a different country

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Speaker 4: they would go from the Midwest to southern Virginia, go,

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Speaker 4: I feel like I'm in a different country.

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Speaker 1: This place is so different. What was the biggest culture, shock,

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Speaker 1: the accents? Anything else? No, nothing else? Pretty much? Okay.

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Speaker 1: I asked Joe, have you ever experienced bullying?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I have.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and tell us more, tell us about that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So starting from when I was very young, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I was as a child, I was probably two feet

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Speaker 1: One point two feet tall, that's true.

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Speaker 3: But puberty really got me to the three feet to.

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Speaker 3: I think you might guys might not want hold on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like everything is micro these days. Write that down,

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Speaker 1: Write that down, microplastics. It actually is true that everything

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Speaker 4: Well, it allows people to have anxiety in a different way, Yes, exactly,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because you know a lot of people say, you know,

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Speaker 1: Are? They said? Tits? Like you're afraid of little tits? George, Please,

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Speaker 1: So you what color is it? Right now? Auburn?

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Speaker 4: Because you know in the book, your your character Luela,

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Speaker 3: I am not the same as the character. It's not autobiography.

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Speaker 1: This pretty much happened to you. Let's be honest. No,

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Speaker 1: this is a true story. No, this is the true story.

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Speaker 1: Your book Murdering Sex Island is based on your life.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I have no connection to this?

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Speaker 1: Well you wrote it. Well yeah, no, Maggie Smith, you

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Speaker 3: So book club, schmook club. Okay, wow, So what are

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Speaker 1: know what Reese Witherspoon does? She tells chat Shobut to

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Speaker 1: But we do we do want to talk about the book,

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Speaker 1: So, Joe, you're a star of stage and screen. What

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the seventies meaningly, you're we're aging her

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Speaker 4: The moment he walked into our door, he said, let's hug.

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Speaker 4: And Joe Joe this, I was like, oh, he must

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Speaker 1: I had literally you really set her up for that one.

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Speaker 3: He literally had wanted nothing to do with me. I

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Speaker 1: No, They're bending over and they're saying please fuck me.

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Speaker 1: It's yes. Well it's interesting, you know, I see both

447
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 1: of you walking around, and this might have to do

448
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 1: with your not acting normal, so to speak, because the

449
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 1: two of you are a funny pair. You know. Sam

450
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 1: is just looking straight ahead as people are like whipping

451
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 1: out cocks but anything they can get their hands on,

452
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 1: and Sam is just like don't look, don't look, and

453
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 1: then meanwhile you're you're screaming, who's gonna fuck me?

454
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,399
Speaker 3: George? I want to know where you are in this spectrum.

455
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 1: Okay, I have to agree with you that Sam has

456
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 1: a charisma that stays with people. And the best way

457
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,200
Speaker 1: I can describe it is if you introduce some one

458
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 1: to Sam, they will keep asking you how is Sam? Forever?

459
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 1: So I will say, like, one example is my father

460
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 1: in law. We introduced him to Sam once because Sam

461
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 1: had a medical issue. And the medical issue that I

462
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 1: would say is like not a sexy one. I was

463
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 1: internally bleeding. Yes, it was a gastrent trology issue. Scary,

464
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 1: so you know we're talking. I don't know what kind

465
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,679
Speaker 1: of photos for exchange, and nor is it my business

466
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 1: to ask, But this man's sight the inside of my asshole.

467
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,160
Speaker 1: This Sam saw Sam ad his most vulnerable. You would

468
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,160
Speaker 1: think he'd be in there. You would think he'd want

469
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: to move on after that and not like keep checking

470
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 1: in when I tell you to this day, every time

471
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:44,360
Speaker 1: I see him, how's Sam doing? He literally heard about

472
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: the after midnight not being on air anymore and and

473
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 1: proactively asked me without me telling him, like a back

474
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: to New York.

475
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 4: Yes, that is wild. To be fair, I had a

476
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,159
Speaker 4: really special bond with Matthew's dad. Yeah, there was really

477
00:22:59,280 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 4: something there.

478
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, So I do uh, I do agree with

479
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: what you're saying, But does you too? I would say

480
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: Sam and I have different types enough that I've never

481
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 1: felt not that I would ever feel competitive, but I've

482
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 1: never felt like, oh no, like that person is giving

483
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 1: Sam or me more attention in a way that is noticeable.

484
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 4: And I think George has a more There's something about

485
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 4: George where he's the one that people go to to

486
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 4: like ask to be on the podcast, Like people feel

487
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 4: more comfortable talking with George, and in a way that

488
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 4: I'm like confused, Like I'm like, I feel like I'm

489
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 4: like presenting a smiley vibe. You're more smiley vibe than

490
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 4: I am, and people are like not messaging me for anything.

491
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 1: Here's what I think it is. I think, broadly speaking,

492
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: if you were to see me and not know me,

493
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 1: I would maybe seem kind of bitchy and not super forthcoming.

494
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: But if we're having a one on one conversation, I

495
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: think I get more. I don't want to say I'm

496
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 1: i access a fake thing because I don't think it's fake, ye,

497
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 1: but I'm a to get into a small talk mindset,

498
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: maybe one on one, yesier Oka. And so then people

499
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 1: immediately feel like we have a connection. Yeah, how do

500
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 1: you feel about that? I think that makes sense. Yeah,

501
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: I think that makes sense.

502
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 4: But Joe, you everyone's obsessed with you, with this beloved

503
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 4: comedian in all of America, to be completely honest, and

504
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 4: the thing is you can't.

505
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: You refuse to accept it, and you refuse to do

506
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: stand up comedy to be honest.

507
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 3: I told you I hit that stage in my woman's life.

508
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 1: In my woman's life whatever.

509
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 3: Okay. So then basically basically, gosh, I'm so sweaty with

510
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 3: this long sleeve shirt. Okay.

511
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: So I called Joe. I called Joe out for having

512
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 1: a long sleep shirt.

513
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 4: And I was like, there's so much backstory on Joe's

514
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 4: outfits that we cannot get into.

515
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: What do you about Joe's formative years? Yeah?

516
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 3: What what are you doing?

517
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 1: I just know that there was a point when she

518
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: was so short that she had to crawl up the

519
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 1: stairs with her Yeah. I heard that too. I read

520
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: just say that and one time, is that also part

521
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: of Louella's back No.

522
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 3: One time I order your shoes online, it turned out

523
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 3: they were baby shoes.

524
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: That okay, how old were you at the time?

525
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 3: I was twenty four.

526
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 1: That's not that.

527
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 3: Stride Right was like a cool brand. But then it

528
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 3: turns out it's for babies. But on the picture it

529
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 3: looked like human shoes.

530
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: Babies are humans. Oh oh, babies are second class.

531
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 3: Oh whatever. You you're trying to get a gotcha me. Okay,

532
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 3: so I'm not going to get gotcha today. No, okay.

533
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 3: Just because she's mousey doesn't mean there's two. There could

534
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 3: be multiple mousey women.

535
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: That's true. But a name one famous mouseie woman.

536
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 3: Uh okay, And.

537
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: Don't say Maggie's man. Don't say Maggie Smith. Don't you dare?

538
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 3: Okay, Fine, okay, fine, how about oh, I know, how

539
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 3: about uh Zoe Macintosh?

540
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: Never heard of, Oh you're man someone.

541
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 3: I did make it up. But oh, let me think

542
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 3: of another one, A real one, a real one.

543
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: I thought we're gonna say, Zoe Deschanel.

544
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 3: Who is a carpenter? Is she mousey? She's little.

545
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 1: She's little. It's little. The only the fighting factor of her.

546
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: She's not mousey, but she's so little that she's actually

547
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: enough like a mouse that you could say she's mousey,

548
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: even though she's that's not what mouse she's a mouse like,

549
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: she's a mouse like. But I think a mousey. You

550
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 1: know what mousey is is like uh, Catwoman out of

551
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 1: Drag where she's like, oh oh god, like my glasses

552
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: are crooked and I'm photo copying wrong. Yes, yeah, I

553
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: love that.

554
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 3: But yeah, I would say that. I would say that

555
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 3: there's the main character is kind of incompetent and also mousey.

556
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 3: And just because I'm also incompetent and Mousey doesn't mean

557
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 3: that we're the same person by any means.

558
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: First, I don't think commtent because you did write a

559
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: book the auto fiction. I want to say, No, so

560
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: it's like, how so Sex Island is Love Island?

561
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 4: And then and then you're the detective, so like that's.

562
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: This is a murder mystery based on your life. No,

563
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: and it's called murder on Sex Island. So Sex Island

564
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: is clearly inspired by Love Island, although there are major

565
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: differences like what name one? Okay, here's one. Okay, they

566
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 1: live in a big apartment. Yeah, complex, is that what

567
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: happens on Love Island?

568
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 3: No, they say on the same beds.

569
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, they sleep in the same it's that. Actually,

570
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 1: one of the few things about your book that is

571
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 1: less disgusting than Love Island is that because on Love

572
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: Island they sleep in true like a communal room with

573
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: communal beds.

574
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 3: Yes, but then in the Love Island UK, some people

575
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: get to sleep in single beds up above.

576
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. I've watched exactly two

577
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 1: episodes of Love Island US, and I watched even less.

578
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, Well I've watched almost almost Yeah. Well we're different.

579
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: Oh but it's like your character that's not that's really interesting.

580
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 3: I did not write an auto fiction book, so.

581
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: It was autobiography. No, so do the contestants on the

582
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: reality should represent your family members? No?

583
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 3: No, okay about trauma, No, no, there's no trauma. Okay,

584
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 3: it is. It is a book.

585
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: And yeah, there's actually trauma in the book. No, okay,

586
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: there's murders.

587
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 3: Murder is in trauma. It's a different genre name one trauma.

588
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't know why this is so difficult, Okay,

589
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 3: So okay, okay, I wrote a fiction.

590
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: Book, correct, and it's called and it's out now.

591
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then there's a second book coming out in

592
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 3: a year called Sex on Murder Island?

593
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: And have you already written that one?

594
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that one's written.

595
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 4: Was that one easy to write because you could just

596
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 4: control F sex and change it for murder and control

597
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 4: F and vice versa.

598
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, same question.

599
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 3: I did not need you to make control if to

600
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 3: make to make control if I'm a novelist, okay, and

601
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 3: I don't need you doing control if if jabs.

602
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: Is it hard to take off your wig when you

603
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: get home to write the things that happened that day? George?

604
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 3: I didn't, George. This is Yes, it's written in first person, right, Yes,

605
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 3: it's from a mousie woman who's incompetent.

606
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: Well, I actually don't think she's in competent because she

607
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: does spoiler she does. Yeah, just like you finished the

608
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: book at the end. Yeah. Despite your own self mythology

609
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: about oh god, I'm always dropping things, you're getting up

610
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: every day and you're doing five full hours of writing

611
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: and you are one of the most productive people are

612
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: literally you're productive. Your last two big entertainment jobs, You've

613
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: been the Boss. You are currently a guest on The Boss.

614
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 3: Oh say, I'm am I the Boss? You it was

615
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 3: the boss.

616
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: Joe, I would say that you are the boss.

617
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 3: Sam was the boss. I'll tell you that much. Everyone

618
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 3: looks to Sam every moment. Sam always Sam looking. Everyone

619
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 3: looks up to Sam. Sam is six foot five. He

620
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 3: is extreme taste.

621
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 4: Joe, I was silent in that room. I never said

622
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 4: a word. I was just like, I was believable.

623
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: No, but I think you're I think when when you

624
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: think you're being mousey, other people take it as I

625
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: better impress him because he's being He's like, he's not

626
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: going to crack a smile unless he's actually impressed with something.

627
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 3: Sam had an issue with wraps.

628
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: The food.

629
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 4: We kept ordering wraps, and mine had a big asshole

630
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 4: in it.

631
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: Not to mention dry. All of them did well. Just

632
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: the one had the big hole. Okay, and he's he

633
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: personally hit you.

634
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 3: Basically he got He basically turned the whole room against raps.

635
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: Oh that's so much social capital.

636
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm the boss.

637
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, Joe, there was an undeniable hole in my wrap.

638
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,479
Speaker 4: What was I supposed to And on top of that,

639
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 4: they're consistently dry.

640
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 3: This is the wettest rap you'll ever eat.

641
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: I don't know why. Just to be clear, that doesn't

642
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: sound better. No, no, no, no, I don't think the

643
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: hard is decided in a dry rap and a wet rap.

644
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: I would go for a dry personally, I only.

645
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 3: Eat wet food. Okay, I don't.

646
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: Interesting so like how Loela only eats soup because of

647
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: her fake teeth. Just making a just putting it out there,

648
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: just putting that out there, making a making an observation,

649
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: kind of like the ones you made as Detective Loela

650
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: of von Horn.

651
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 3: Okay, first of all, thank you for pronouncing it in

652
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 3: the Dutch.

653
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: Of course, he's international, Yes, I know. I'm international American.

654
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: That's my that's my nationality. I'm second generation international American.

655
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 3: And Sam feels like that because he still used to

656
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 3: go to high school Midwest.

657
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it was different because the accents, right exactly.

658
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, my wife his.

659
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: First generation in national American because he moved to Virginia.

660
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: It was a really difficult transition, you guys.

661
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you know how it goes. Oh, high school.

662
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 3: I just got I just got invited to my twentieth

663
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 3: high school reunion. Speaking of old.

664
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: And are you going to go?

665
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 3: I don't think I can.

666
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: How come the people are active because you have that

667
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: Big Case Island on Sex Murder, George Wet Wrap on

668
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: Dry Island.

669
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 3: Oh oh oh, you to YouTube combined. It is truly, honestly,

670
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 3: I tell you this, You to combined. It's like you're

671
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 3: two puzzle pieces, but when you put the puzzle pieces together,

672
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 3: it is a gun. Okay.

673
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 4: When I complained about the wraps, Joe assigned me to

674
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 4: get really into rap culture.

675
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: No, I didn't mean it like that. I meant it

676
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 3: like rap culture.

677
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: This is all you guys are. This entire story is

678
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: like being told to me so that you can do wordplay.

679
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: It's all been leading up. It's all been leading up

680
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: to someone being like it was hardcore rap and it's

681
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: like a chicken Caesar wrap.

682
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 3: No, okay, So okay, okay, that is good, Okay, thank you, Okay,

683
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 3: But George, seriously, I think that the thing is, this

684
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 3: is what I'm just getting it, okay, is that I've

685
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 3: never commanded respect in my life.

686
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: But but respect is being showered at you on all

687
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: left and left and right. No, and you are sitting

688
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: there and saying, I'm MOUSEI.

689
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 3: I honestly don't understand why people come up with they

690
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 3: beg you to get on this show.

691
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 4: They beg you, and I told Georgia a story here

692
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 4: you can let Joe can finish one thought.

693
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that I'm practically begged. I said, please, please, mothers,

694
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 3: please get me on this show, and just to say

695
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 3: just to get on there, saying, well, that's all it is.

696
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: What I didn't I actually regret. I regret interrupting Sam

697
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: and having you finish your thoughts.

698
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 3: So what's your story?

699
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: Can I tell George about to Tek?

700
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 4: Okay, So Joe loves to be like I'm I'm normal,

701
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 4: I'm acting normal and how do you guys possibly laugh

702
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 4: at me? And then she'll say the craziest thing on earth?

703
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 4: For example, she was like everyone has crazy thoughts. She

704
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,439
Speaker 4: was like, everyone has crazy thoughts. We're all going around

705
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 4: sharing like, okay, well I believe this. I believe this,

706
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 4: like sort of you know, trying to relate and be

707
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 4: like I'm crazy, I'm crazy. Uh, you know, somebody's like

708
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 4: I think some people are psychic or whatever.

709
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: Sure, whatever.

710
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 4: We go to Joe and she's like, well, my boyfriend

711
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 4: believes in you know, past lives and babies often know

712
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 4: him as Toe Tech. Babies often know him as to

713
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 4: Tech and We're like, what are.

714
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: You talking about? And she's like, babies will point at

715
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: him and go to Tech. And then after that you

716
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: just asked lead the writers for the rest of that.

717
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 4: And then literally she's like, oh, by the way, you

718
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 4: have notes like it's like, it's like, what is going on.

719
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 4: Babies often know him as toe Tech, so then it

720
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 4: implies that like babies know him, and then you reach

721
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 4: a certain age and you no longer know him as

722
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 4: to Tech.

723
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: You forget who he is.

724
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

725
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: So how many babies? How many babies have pointed him?

726
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 3: Several babies have done this? Okay, so happens like the

727
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 3: stick their little fingers pointing at him as to Tech.

728
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: And are you sure it's not like you're they're saying

729
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: something like, you know, like baby sounds, but you're primed

730
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: to hear it as to Tech. No, I wish, And

731
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: how many babies are we talking?

732
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 3: This happens with several babies and then we and we

733
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 3: looked up to Tech and to Tech isn't as Tech

734
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 3: god of war?

735
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 1: And so do you think in his past life he

736
00:36:59,120 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: was to Tech?

737
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 3: It seems only I don't know how explain, and I actually.

738
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: Have an explanation for why babies know him as totech. Oh,

739
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 1: I would love to know your explanation. It's actually pretty simple,

740
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: and I'm sure everyone would have gotten there eventually. But

741
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, so if there are past lives, Okay,

742
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 1: a baby is born, that's a new life being started.

743
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: But maybe like there's residual past life until the baby

744
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: grows up, you know what I mean. So like there's

745
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: there's the new life is only just getting started, and

746
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: it's filling in the container that previously had the past life.

747
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: So in the beginning, there's enough of the past life

748
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: for them to recognize him as to Tech, and then

749
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 1: as they get older, the part of them that would

750
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 1: recognize him fades away and now they are just like Keith.

751
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: It's essentially the plot of Baby Geniuses. I don't know

752
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: if you guys have seen it. I actually I have

753
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 1: not seen it, but I know of the famous scene

754
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: where you're in the point of view of the sperm.

755
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, so pretty much there's a movie called Baby Genius

756
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 4: and Kirsty ally right, uh no, that's look who's talking?

757
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 3: I think, Oh, Okaylyn, then there's also a baby Giant.

758
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: Well I was talking about who's talking Baby Boss? I do.

759
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: I have seen Baby Genius is actually Sam Boss. Take

760
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: it back, but I still want to know the plot.

761
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 4: Well, the promise is, of course, that you that babies

762
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 4: are born in their geniuses until they reach a certain

763
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 4: age and they forget it all.

764
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 3: He Isn't there a book? I mean a movie like

765
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 3: that to like Smart Dogs?

766
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: Yes, no, they're actually his, but I can't remember what

767
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: it's called. It's like, do you remember there's also one

768
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: about with cats and dogs that are battling one another. Yes,

769
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: and they're using technology. It's called cats and Dogs.

770
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 4: I'm learning, Joe, are you ever worried that if you

771
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 4: were to have a child, that your own baby would

772
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 4: know him as Totec and then eventually, like maybe know

773
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 4: him better as Totech than as dad.

774
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 3: Sounds like you're worried about that. Sounds like that's something

775
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 3: you're worried about.

776
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: I guess my question would be, are you worried that

777
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: your baby would be a god Messiah?

778
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 4: To talk about a fictional book, okay, it's nonfiction.

779
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 3: Okay, I came here to and I'm sorry if everyone

780
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 3: else here comes on here to talk about.

781
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: Their memoir again. This is the inaugural Stradiola Book Club.

782
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 4: This is the first book club. I think many authors

783
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:16,919
Speaker 4: are going to begging to come.

784
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 3: On, wait till I get on the Reddit forums.

785
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: So okay, okay.

786
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,240
Speaker 3: So basically here's what you do is it's really easy

787
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 3: to you write them. It's very You can write a

788
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 3: mystery novel really quickly, okay, And so that's what I did.

789
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 3: I thought I was never going to work again. And

790
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 3: then I thought, oh, you know what, I'm going to

791
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 3: write a sexual book that's going to pop off, you know.

792
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: And why did you choose the mystery I mean, I

793
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: guess you choose the mystery genre because it is like popular.

794
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 3: Well, I love mysteries, and so then I was like,

795
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 3: I'm gonna write a psycho sexual thriller, very good, very juicy.

796
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 3: Then I couldn't really bring pen to paper when it

797
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 3: came to the sexuals. You know, I did notice that,

798
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 3: unfortunately there is no intercourse or a.

799
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: Book called Murder on Sex Silent. It's actually pretty late

800
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 1: on the sex. You'd be surprised how little sex there is. No.

801
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 3: I just couldn't. It's just so hard to be like,

802
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 3: he put his sausage in there, or whatever you do.

803
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: You say cock at one point.

804
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 4: Oh, but I just yeah, I mean there was something

805
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 4: when you referred to one character's ten inch penis throughout,

806
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 4: and it was sort of like, Joe, stop it.

807
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: Well, I do think it's written from the perspective of

808
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: someone who doesn't know it's okay.

809
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, enough.

810
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: Okay, which is part of the character.

811
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, okay, so yes, she doesn't, she does whatever.

812
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 3: So then basically I wrote this book thinking it's going

813
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 3: to be a smash hit. Wouldn't have to ever go

814
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 3: back to these comedy.

815
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 1: Clubs right where he were making the big books. The clubs.

816
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 4: You see Joe up there at the cellar every damn night.

817
00:40:58,440 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 4: And here's the problem with Woke.

818
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 3: Well, well, well you too, you too. I hope you

819
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 3: enjoy each other. Okay, this isn't this is just ghastly Okay,

820
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 3: So you know, truly, Okay. So I wrote this book

821
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 3: think it is going to pop off. Then you know,

822
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 3: I started querying it.

823
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: No, query, showing it to people, Yeah, you send it,

824
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: and they.

825
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 3: Said no, no, And so then I was like, well,

826
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 3: I wrote this whole book though, and so then I

827
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 3: self published it. Okay, and then self publishing it is uh,

828
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 3: it's it is a it is not. It is a

829
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 3: tough process for it is. I accidentally made the book

830
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 3: really big.

831
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: How do you mean, like physically, like like the font

832
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: was really big. Pages.

833
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 3: No, it was like the size of a calendar.

834
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: You just yeah, yea. So and then when you're holding

835
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: it almost like even more giant. Please, Okay, you're climbing,

836
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: this's there. Meanwhile you're surfing on the book, surfing down

837
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: the stairs on your giant's book. Just what we were

838
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 1: calling your friends hated. Some things are micro, somethings are macro?

839
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: Can anything be normal?

840
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 3: You all, why don't you audition for ass? Can't like

841
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 3: this we had and.

842
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: We didn't make it. They don't like us over there? Okay, yeah.

843
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 3: So then so then basically I did this. I did

844
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 3: this whole self published book. Okay, and then uh and

845
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 3: then I uh and then I I and then eventually

846
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 3: it became a published book. But then they were like,

847
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 3: you have a lot of plot holes. So then I

848
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 3: had to revise the book and write it again. So

849
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 3: I've written this book I think nineteen times.

850
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: What was the holes? Well changed? I want to just

851
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: push back a little bit. What you're describing is the

852
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: editing process.

853
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 3: I don't actually need you to push back at this

854
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 3: book at this moment. And I think that maybe an author.

855
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: Working with an editor at the end, like I keep

856
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: having to rewrite it.

857
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 3: No, I think, and I think this is obviously not

858
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 3: a time to push back. It actually is a time

859
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 3: to push.

860
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: Forward, push forward. Wow, no more than ever?

861
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 3: Oh okay, So basically, yeah, I guess it got edited

862
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 3: normal totally.

863
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: YEA.

864
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 3: For example, there is a knife.

865
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

866
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,439
Speaker 3: In the self published version. I may have forgotten there.

867
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: Was a knife, but the belly button thing was still there.

868
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: You just didn't know how it happened. Or the knife

869
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: in the underwear drawer? Which knife? There were no knives?

870
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 3: No, no, no, there was a knife, but they never found.

871
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: The knife, so it was like an implied knife. And

872
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: which knife did they not find? The one that was

873
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: used on the murder victims to do the belly button thing?

874
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: So the one in the chicken in the rochessary chicken.

875
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the rochestry chicken wasn't that wasn't at it?

876
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay.

877
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 3: So I'm sorry I didn't know you guys had or

878
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 3: were uh Reddit. Okay, so book Club, I guess goes

879
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 3: like this.

880
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so that is so classic Joe. No. One time.

881
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 4: One time, Joe was like getting up and she was

882
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 4: like really like emphatically, like I'm gonna make a point.

883
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 1: I'm going to make a point. What you guys don't understand.

884
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: What you guys don't understand is people love to go

885
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: like this. For anyone not watching, Sam is merely holding

886
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: a cup. This is all she does. And we're like,

887
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: finish the sentence, what did they love to go like?

888
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: And she's like, people love to go like this and

889
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: she just holds her cup and it's like, what were

890
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: two hands with two hands? And so people love to

891
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: go like this? Okay, did you mean that people like

892
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: to hold something with both hands? No, so what did

893
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: you mean?

894
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 3: Basically, here's what happened. It's like every day, head go

895
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 3: in there and I'd be like, Hi, guys, have a

896
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 3: great day today, love you so much. I hope I

897
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 3: hope you feel supported, and they would stare at me like.

898
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: For anyone listening. By the way, I do want to

899
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: say Joe was the head writer of After Midnight, and

900
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: that is why we are saying she was Sam's bosst

901
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: and that is where all these stories are coming from.

902
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 3: But basically I'd be like, hey, everybody who needs milk?

903
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: Who eys water? And everyone would be like, everyone would

904
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: like look at you disrespectfully.

905
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 3: Yes, And that's why I said people love to do this.

906
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: I'm wait, okay, so you're saying you're saying, does anyone

907
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: want milks? Anyone water? Everyone says no, and You're like,

908
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 1: but people love that. They love drinking something.

909
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 3: People love to do this. This no, which is which

910
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 3: is nothing no, which is basically it's.

911
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: Like, oh, okay, I'm seeing the miscommunication. Can I attempt George?

912
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 3: Honestly, you've never gotten wrong.

913
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: Thank you. Here's what I think happened. Okay, okay, I

914
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: actually like completely understand what happened. All right, So is

915
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: to tech all over again? No, this is I babies,

916
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: We'll start thinking I'm to tech by the time I've

917
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: been with this explanation. So basically, Joe asked a question.

918
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 1: People stared at her blankly, and then Joe was like, wow,

919
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: people love to go like this, and then you did

920
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: the blank stare look simultaneously, and unrelatedly, you were holding

921
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: a cup with two hands, so the way Sam interpreted

922
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: it is people love to hold a cup with two hands.

923
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: But that's not the thing you were showing, George.

924
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 3: Genuinely, I just wonder if we should spend more time together,

925
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 3: Like I just am wondering if maybe we should.

926
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: I do you remember that one time we got lunch

927
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: in Manhattan?

928
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 3: That was cool? I remember what we got?

929
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: What do we get? Well?

930
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 3: I remember what you got?

931
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: Yum? I do think I have to be Joe. You're

932
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: painting like a a sort of a wrong picture. Uh oh,

933
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: he's back to push forward if well, if if one

934
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: of us, you know, I pushed back one. So now

935
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: Sam has his turn.

936
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 3: Okay, fine, but guess what my turn is coming up?

937
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 4: And it's not gonna be pretty uh oh, because Joe

938
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 4: comes in and is like boo boo boo, Like she

939
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 4: does something so silly, and we're all like, okay, that's

940
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 4: the silliest thing I've ever seen. Like we're like we

941
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 4: and we support it. We say that is so funny, Joe,

942
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 4: you are so funny. And she goes, I'm not being funny.

943
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 4: I see, Joe respond.

944
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 3: I conducted myself in a professional manner every day. Every

945
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 3: day I go in in every day, I would actually

946
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 3: listen to these, listen to this, listen to these, listen

947
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 3: So I listened to this music on the way there.

948
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 3: That was like, you're going to have a good day.

949
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 3: Nothing's gonna go wrong, dude. Like I had to listen

950
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 3: to every day.

951
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: This is like Barney's Hits Volume one.

952
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 4: There was literally a song called I'm Making a Move.

953
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 4: I've never heard the song in my life, and it's

954
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 4: like I'm making a move, and it's like it's like

955
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 4: not Lizzo, but.

956
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: It's really close. Would you say it's like Pink hmm, it's.

957
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 3: Closer to Lizzo. But I would listen to it every

958
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 3: day to try to feel good going in there.

959
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: Were you like dreading going into work every day?

960
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 3: So then I would basically I would basically go and

961
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 3: be like, this is the day I'm gonna have a

962
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 3: good attitude, because whenever I had a bad attitude, everyone

963
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 3: was like, oh, when are you going to be in

964
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 3: a good mood again? Terrible? Okay. So then basically I

965
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 3: was driving and playing that song trying to get in

966
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 3: a good headspace. When I crash my car, I'm making

967
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 3: a move.

968
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: You know. There's something actually very powerful about what you're

969
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: describing because you know what it reminds me of. Okay,

970
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 1: there's nothing then something violent happening while happy music is playing,

971
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: And of course my mind goes to the TV show Lost,

972
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: where famously that song play your own kind of music

973
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: would play as like something bad would happen in the

974
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: bunker don't call in with Basically, something like that happened,

975
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: and so I could see that being a very traumatic

976
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: experience for you to be both listening to a Lizzo

977
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: esque song and also be having a near death experience.

978
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 3: Of course, I mean it wasn't so bad, but yeah, no,

979
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 3: I would say that, you know, like, uh, what's the

980
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 3: guy's name that did all those movies?

981
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 1: Keaton, Michael Keaton, JJ Abrams.

982
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 3: No, it's the guy that did those movies like Pope

983
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 3: Fiction Tarantino.

984
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 1: Yes, so Terence Tarantino. Yeah, Keaton Tarantino. I love Keaton Tarantino.

985
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 3: I didn't catch up on my textbooks before coming on

986
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 3: this show, okay, and next time I'll know to read

987
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 3: my textbooks.

988
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: We both did our reading, okay, okay, so okay, So.

989
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 3: Then basically, you know, Tarantin noticed that those famous things.

990
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: Oh sure, sure, yes, it's like music being discordant with

991
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: what is happening, and that's where the I mean.

992
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 4: It's and to be fair to pick a picture, it

993
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 4: wasn't like crash with another car. You were scraping against

994
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 4: a pillar, correct, I.

995
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 3: Scraped against the walls of the garage.

996
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: I see that sort of kept going, Yeah, well, once

997
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: you start scraping, there's no stop in it. Okay. And

998
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: then just to go back to the story, how does

999
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: this relate to anything we were talking?

1000
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm just saying, I'm just saying, oh, this is

1001
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 3: what's the issue.

1002
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:56,919
Speaker 1: Okay.

1003
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 3: So I'm just saying that basically I didn't realize this

1004
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 3: was here.

1005
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: I was thinking this for anyone only listening. There was

1006
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: a pillow of a seashell does a seashell illustration pillow?

1007
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: And sell shaped pillow behind Joe's giant back. Yeah, oh

1008
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: my gosh.

1009
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:28,919
Speaker 3: Okay. So basically all I'm saying is that, so Sam

1010
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 3: and I just have different views on how this all

1011
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 3: went down, Okay, Right, So basically I'm in there thinking

1012
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 3: I'm normal every day, I'm professional, I'm gonna have I'm

1013
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna run a tight room. And Sam has

1014
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 3: this idea that I'm coming every day saying wacky wackle

1015
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 3: everybody who wants a balloon? And that's not what I felt.

1016
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 3: I did, and I felt I said, who wants a pencil?

1017
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 3: Time to get to work? And I guess in his mind,

1018
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 3: I was you know what I was wearing a big uniform.

1019
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: You were being Patch Adams to Sam. You are Patch

1020
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: Adams to you. You are Meryl Streep and Devilware's product.

1021
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 1: That is interesting. That is interesting. Those are the two

1022
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 1: poles of professionalists.

1023
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 3: Are you watching Gilded Age?

1024
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: You know? I actually have a request and I want

1025
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: to look straight into my camera. No. I would like

1026
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: to no longer be asked if I'm watching the Gilded Age.

1027
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 1: I think I have been asked enough times whether I'm

1028
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: watching the Gilded Age. It has nothing to do with

1029
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: my opinions on the Gilded Age. I think theater actresses

1030
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: are the patch atoms of the culture industry, and I

1031
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: respect them. I would Venmo carr Cooon personally if I could.

1032
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: If anyone has revenge, will let me know. But I

1033
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: would officially like to be asked to no longer be

1034
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 1: addressed by someone asking me, do you watch the Gilded Age?

1035
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 4: I think that is such a beautiful sentiment, and I'm

1036
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 4: of course thrilled for all the actors and everyone that

1037
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 4: is employed by that show, and I hope it goes forever.

1038
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: I agree, I just don't want to be associated with it,

1039
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: and assumed that I would watch it. I okay, okay,

1040
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: I don't, but Matthew does. So it's playing in my

1041
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: home alone and I don't as well, but Misha does,

1042
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: so it's playing.

1043
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 3: You know, I have so much nice to have husbands

1044
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 3: that are going in there.

1045
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: Well you've got you're the Matthew and Misha of your relationship,

1046
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 1: because I assume he doesn't. No, he watches okay, So

1047
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: what are you complaining about it? Some that you are

1048
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: so you guys are in sync and watching it together.

1049
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that. Ever since I've been on this podcast,

1050
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 3: I've been called in twenty.

1051
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: Times, called in. Well, that's the good one. Do you

1052
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: want to be called out? No? Hello, complaining about being

1053
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: called in?

1054
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 3: I just wish I did it right?

1055
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 1: Did what? Right? Everything? Well, you're doing something right here? Yeah? Right?

1056
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: Writing a book? Yeah yeah, oh I don't need that.

1057
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 3: And listen and this listen. I know that people are

1058
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 3: going to return their books after listening to this podcast.

1059
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: What I know you're going to do that you're them?

1060
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: Does that hurt your sales if they do? Yeah, oh no,

1061
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: you pocket that money from you pocket it no matter what. No,

1062
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: you're asked to. If you get little book residuals, they

1063
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: have you, they say, write a check for twenty four dollars.

1064
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 1: And someone just returned. Someone just returned this book to

1065
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: Burns and Noble. They call you personally and they say, Joe,

1066
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: you're good using bad news.

1067
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 4: Somebody bought your book. That's amazing. Here's twenty four dollars.

1068
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 4: The bad news is they returned it. You owe us

1069
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 4: that money back?

1070
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 3: Can I tell you something? That's so embarrassing? So I

1071
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 3: keep going, I keep going into bookstores so humble, yeah,

1072
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 3: of course, being like a wonder if my book is here.

1073
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 3: It's not, then I have to walk out real humble.

1074
00:54:58,520 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: Wait, it's surely it.

1075
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 3: No it's not. And I walk out saying, must be nice.

1076
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: To be a patch it sure Oh yeah, that bitch

1077
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: and patch it dumb bitch. I don't care if she's listening,

1078
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: stupid bitch. So, Joe, how did you decide how it

1079
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 1: was gonna end?

1080
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 3: Like?

1081
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 4: Pretty much spoiler alert, there's like a group of killers.

1082
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 1: Why there are men? And there are men? Yeah? What

1083
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: were why? Why? Why group instead of one? Yeah? Sicko?

1084
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: Well feminism was it? Was it about feminism?

1085
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 3: Do you think it was about feminism?

1086
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 1: Honestly? A little?

1087
00:55:54,960 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 3: I guess, Uh, I guess basically, you know, you just

1088
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 3: you just have to say what makes the most sense

1089
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 3: in the moment.

1090
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: Okay, what leads me to my follow up question?

1091
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 3: I don't want what? I don't want what? I don't

1092
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 3: want any wats in this?

1093
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 1: Are you saying that you sort of figured out the

1094
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 1: plot as you went along?

1095
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 4: No, No, Joe, Joe did tell me that her You

1096
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 4: told me your writing process for a mystery, you just

1097
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 4: have to know how it ends and everything else you

1098
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 4: can kind of riff.

1099
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: Is that? I never, Joe, you said that to me.

1100
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: You're gaslighting. You're literally gaslating. You're being Phil from the book.

1101
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:43,720
Speaker 3: Oh you know what's really good? What Phil's coffee?

1102
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: Oh? I agree? But it's so strong love it? Okay,

1103
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 1: so you know it's Palestinian?

1104
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 3: Yes, I did, really, yes, And you know what, it's

1105
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 3: only I wish it was on the East coast.

1106
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's in DC. I wish it

1107
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: was a little less sweet, to be honest, like the

1108
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 1: coffee itself without sugar.

1109
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:03,399
Speaker 3: He doesn't know what he's doing.

1110
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: Have you ever had the ice mint mohido?

1111
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 3: He says ice cream is too cold?

1112
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,240
Speaker 1: It is too cold. That's actually one of Sam's favorite

1113
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 1: things to say.

1114
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 3: Get a life. These clothes are too soft. My skin

1115
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 3: is too good.

1116
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 4: You know I've been can Joe, can you tell George

1117
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 4: the term you invented for what that is that I do?

1118
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 4: And and sort of this I think will feed into

1119
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 4: this is a term for what you saying my complaints,

1120
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 4: your complaints, you know.

1121
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 3: So Sam has weird complaints like I don't like dinner

1122
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 3: or whatever.

1123
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: I sure, I know. My complaint was I don't like

1124
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: when I like dinner because it makes me feel lame.

1125
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: I mean, that's classic.

1126
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 3: Is an insane that is And he, meanwhile, charming the

1127
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 3: pants off a half the country.

1128
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: It's unfair, it's unfair.

1129
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 3: I meanwhile, you have to under give the self process

1130
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 3: things like oh, he doesn't like dinner.

1131
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, So what is the word this? I

1132
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: would love to have a word for this.

1133
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 3: Here's what happens. So Basically, if I'm like, hey, does

1134
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 3: everybody want a present? Or hate? Who here? Who here?

1135
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 3: Needs a coffee? I can tell when Sam goes like

1136
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 3: he does a little inhale like, and then I know

1137
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 3: that is a stage of pre com pre calm.

1138
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: Pre com is calm communication complain. Oh okay, okay, yes, no,

1139
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: I know exactly what you mean. Yes, okay, keep going.

1140
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: And you must understand that when Joe says Sam's going

1141
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: to pre calm, people are like, Joe, what that is crazy?

1142
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: And this is this is what you're saying when you

1143
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: think you're being so professional.

1144
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 3: Oh I am it is pronounced. I'm not saying he's

1145
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 3: gonna pre calm everybody.

1146
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: Okay, So how are you saying.

1147
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that.

1148
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: Okay, So how are you saying it he's going to

1149
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: pre comb. I doubt you're over I'm saying it that way.

1150
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 3: I'm saying it that way. I'm sanelly.

1151
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: I also want to say he's not gonna pre comm.

1152
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: When you're saying at the LEAs you saw him pre

1153
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: colm correct, he's gonna calm, you're not seeing him pre

1154
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: comm and saying he's gonna pre calm. Don't worry Joe,

1155
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: this is part of the editing process. I have to say.

1156
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: It would be insane to be having sex and say

1157
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring it, so I'm gonna pre com that

1158
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: would honestly be something that happens on in your book.

1159
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 3: Whatever, because I don't know what sex he is.

1160
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: No, Luella doesn't know. It's Luela, who you may or

1161
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 1: may know. You are not related to. From what I

1162
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: understand now, I wanna ask you something, which is you

1163
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: have been doing this. Thank you for bringing this up.

1164
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: Thank you for bringing this up. It's okay. First of all,

1165
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: you're just drawing our big prop.

1166
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 3: Oh dear, I guess I gotta replant.

1167
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: Now you're performing mousiness to prove Oh dear, oh dear,

1168
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: okay you are. First of all, I uh, I was

1169
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: very grateful you agreed to be on a show of

1170
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: mine that I hosted George s. Verison Friends.

1171
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 3: That was really cool. Sponsored at a twenty four day

1172
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:34,439
Speaker 3: Cherry Tree Trees.

1173
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: Yes, Cherry Cherry Lane Theater. Ter look out for more

1174
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: and you do more well, hopefully when you hear back

1175
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: about dates and I said, Joe, I would absolutely love

1176
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: for you to do the show. You said, I don't really.

1177
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: I haven't really been doing stand up, but for you,

1178
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: I'll come out of retirement. And I said that would

1179
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: be amazing. I can't wait you get there the day

1180
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: of you say, I'm actually not going to do stand up,

1181
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna do this bit I've been doing on stage.

1182
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: And would you like to explain what the bit is?

1183
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 3: I don't remember.

1184
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: It's called suck or fuck. And you say things and

1185
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: say whether they suck or fuck or whether they correspond

1186
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: to suck or fuck.

1187
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, basically it got a little bit confusing because

1188
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 3: you guys accuse me of homophobia by saying this suck

1189
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 3: was bad but fuck was good. So then I had

1190
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 3: just witch it to say suck was good and fuck

1191
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 3: was bad.

1192
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,439
Speaker 1: But which one do you think is better?

1193
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 3: No, I'm not doing it again.

1194
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: You were so you initial you initially, oh, you would

1195
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 1: know all about that. You initially said fuck was good

1196
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: and suck was bad. And then I said, you know,

1197
01:01:55,520 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: in queer relationships, actually suck can count as sex because

1198
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: we're not so penetration.

1199
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 3: And once again, and neither is this book, to be honest.

1200
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: This book is what non penetrative. But there's also no

1201
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 1: sucking yeah, I would say there's more fucking than sucking.

1202
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: There's not even any there's not even any jerking referred to.

1203
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 3: I didn't know everyone was keeping score.

1204
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 1: There is also a what was it called a grief orgy,

1205
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 1: and I'm just being a cuddle puddle.

1206
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, cuddle puddles happen on Wednesdays.

1207
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 1: Yes, that's women Wednesdays. Women pick Wednesday, women pick Wednesdays.

1208
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 3: You guys think I could have written this better. I

1209
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 3: just wonder if maybe now I'm hearing these things out

1210
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 3: loud from your voices, that maybe they could have.

1211
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 1: Actually, I have a I have a correction. There is sucking. Well,

1212
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 1: there's kind of lingus and that there's one of my

1213
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 1: favorite jokes. There's one guy who's famously good at kind

1214
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: of lingis, famously hates kind of lingis. And then after

1215
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 1: the show he gets a reality show where he goes

1216
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 1: to different restaurants and it's called Noah's Eating Out. Yes.

1217
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 4: Oh, and there's there's rim jobs. There's jobs well, it

1218
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 4: implied like they happened in the past.

1219
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 3: Oh, you want them to happen in a moment.

1220
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would like a description of the act.

1221
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 3: This is the issue I had. I couldn't bear to

1222
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 3: do it. I couldn't bear to do it.

1223
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:30,959
Speaker 1: Do you not want your readers to pre calm?

1224
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 3: Okay? First of all, I don't. I'm trying to get

1225
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 3: my readers.

1226
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: People love to do this.

1227
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 3: No, okay, so no I don't need that. Okay, So

1228
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,439
Speaker 3: this this? Oh do you need the coffee breaks? Thirt okay?

1229
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 1: So basically make sure to hold it with both hands.

1230
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 1: People love to do that, George, Okay, go ahead.

1231
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 3: Basically I never understood how this could feel. Okay. So

1232
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 3: basically basically, oh, I should maybe not sit. This is

1233
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 3: recorded and visually.

1234
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: Mm hm oh I'm sitting the same damn way.

1235
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

1236
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 1: How crazy would it be if it wasn't there? We're

1237
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 1: just cameras everywhere.

1238
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 3: Well I did ask if these were iPads, and apparently

1239
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 3: they're not.

1240
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 1: No, just wait, okay, I keep going. Basically, approximately ten

1241
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: minutes ago, you started a sentence with what it's basically, well,

1242
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 1: that could have been anything. That's what we're saying. That's

1243
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 1: why we want to narrow it down to what it is,

1244
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: what would it have to do with instead of what

1245
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 1: it could be. You know, when you start a sentence,

1246
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 1: it could be anything, But as you go it gets

1247
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 1: more and more specific.

1248
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 3: You know, I have rolling blackouts.

1249
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 1: You have rolling blackouts in my head.

1250
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 3: I don't remember any single thing that happened too much.

1251
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 1: Do you think that contributed to the various miscommunications in

1252
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: the writer's room? You blacken out every morning, hitting back,

1253
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 1: getting the fucking building with your car, and then walking

1254
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 1: in and saying completely indecipherable things to your entire staff.

1255
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh, this is a not how I

1256
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 3: pictured it. Here's what I pictured. Yes, okay, coming on

1257
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 3: this pod. Okay I pictured here. Hey, hihy, this book

1258
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 3: is to do for.

1259
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 1: You're so trusty you're doing the pod.

1260
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 5: It's nice to have you back. It was so nice

1261
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 5: to see you the other day. That tuning was mine.

1262
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 5: I'm so heavy back and work. Oh my god, I

1263
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 5: love what you're doing with your hair. The back is

1264
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 5: so normal. This book is to I literally could not believe.

1265
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 5: And the knife who was so perfectly placed in the chicken?

1266
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,479
Speaker 1: You know, I could tell that an earlier version didn't

1267
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 1: have knives, but it was such an improvement that this one. Dude,

1268
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: and I love the lack of sex.

1269
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 5: I really did met feel like it wasn't gonna precl

1270
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 5: if I had to decide between second fock, I would

1271
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 5: fun for this book?

1272
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: Which had better? Is that? How you imagine that? What

1273
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 1: the hell are you talking about? Oh? My god? You

1274
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 1: know what?

1275
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 3: Good thing you found each other? Good thing you found

1276
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 3: each other. The two of you are like two horns

1277
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 3: of a devil, two horns of a devil.

1278
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 1: So where two jigsaw pieces that create a gun and

1279
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 1: two horns of a devil.

1280
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 3: You know that mixing metaphors is my specialty. But basically

1281
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 3: what happened is you had a horn, and you had

1282
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 3: a horn, and basically what together you create the face

1283
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 3: and horns of a devil?

1284
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 1: And it was Luella van Horn whoa character? Name? It is?

1285
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 1: It is?

1286
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 3: Here's the thing, here's the.

1287
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 1: Thing, what's the thing? What's the thing?

1288
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 3: Okay? I am grateful that both of you read.

1289
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: I actually didn't read the book.

1290
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 3: Okay, I did, And I just think that also, you

1291
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 3: guys really did you really did have this book club VB.

1292
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 1: First one, we really had this, We really did have

1293
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 1: this be the first one.

1294
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 3: I don't need you to repeat what I said to

1295
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 3: you that.

1296
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 1: You're doing it again.

1297
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 4: No.

1298
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 3: No, Secondly, certainly, damn Maggie Smith, is that you.

1299
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: Certainly?

1300
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 3: How you watching the Kill to age?

1301
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 1: Secondly? What?

1302
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 3: Secondly? I I just when I was coming here. You know,

1303
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 3: I spent twenty seven dollars set of noodles.

1304
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 1: Yes, and I spent seventeen dollars on half a sandwich.

1305
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:31,560
Speaker 1: I spent eighteen dollars on a kish that's nuts. It

1306
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 1: is all nuts.

1307
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:33,719
Speaker 3: It is all nuts.

1308
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: But I thought to myself, I've heard of walnuts, but

1309
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 1: all nuts.

1310
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 3: I don't even know what I'm doing here.

1311
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 1: Okay, you're promoting your big book. It's not available on

1312
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 1: any bookstores. Have to listen to this podcast.

1313
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 3: What do you call it a big book? It reminds

1314
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 3: me of how I met you up and ordered it

1315
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 3: big okay?

1316
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 1: Calendar style? Oh, when you were checking out? Was there

1317
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 1: a choice for calendar style and book style? Accidentally chose calendar.

1318
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 3: It was really big?

1319
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:03,759
Speaker 1: Okay?

1320
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 3: And I didn't realize. I don't have a tape in

1321
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 3: my house.

1322
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 1: You know what's funny. If I were to go about

1323
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,759
Speaker 1: self publishing something, and I don't mean this is the criticism,

1324
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 1: I would immediately say, ebook. This is an ebook. I'm

1325
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 1: self publishing an ebook. It would sound so difficult. To

1326
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: actually pay to have it printed. Well, it was clearly

1327
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 1: it came back giant Joe. Was that like the test print?

1328
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: Or did you have like five hundred of these things?

1329
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,719
Speaker 1: How many people bought the collector's edition calendar style books

1330
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 1: pre edits just a branded out Google doc with comments

1331
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 1: and highlights. It TKTK had killer. Here you have the ending,

1332
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: and then the rest was like this, I'll pick this

1333
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:47,639
Speaker 1: out later.

1334
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 3: Absolutely not. Okay, I listen, this was a highly regimented

1335
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 3: writing process.

1336
01:09:55,280 --> 01:10:00,679
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, let's tell let us in your Yeah.

1337
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 3: First of all, I never say riff excuse me, Sam said, oh,

1338
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 3: just riff it?

1339
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 1: Oh oh oh okay, yes, I do want you to

1340
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 1: correct Sam. So Sam said, you said the way to

1341
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 1: write a mystery come up with the ending and then

1342
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 1: just rift the rest, which you're saying that's wrong, that's

1343
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 1: missing for me. I never said, what did you say?

1344
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 3: Come up with the ending and then come up with

1345
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 3: the middle.

1346
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 1: And then.

1347
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 3: First of all, you too, you too are basically like

1348
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:34,719
Speaker 3: a devilish monkey.

1349
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 1: Okay, and you know that is this like a wicked thing? Oh? Oh,

1350
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: do you know what I think?

1351
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 3: What I think that the wicked dorm room is the

1352
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 3: same as the Wednesday dorm Room.

1353
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 4: Oh well, of course, Okay, I think you should incorporate

1354
01:10:58,200 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 4: this into your standa.

1355
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 1: This is really big. Well maybe instead of sucking fucking

1356
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 1: be Wicked dorm Room or Wednesday dorm Room show. I

1357
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: just want to say, that's such a good point, the

1358
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,640
Speaker 1: Wicked dom Room in the Wednesday dor.

1359
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 3: I need you all to delete it.

1360
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 1: Do you think it's part of the dorm room cinematic.

1361
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 3: I need you all, No, I need you all to

1362
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 3: delete it. I'm bringing in hot fresh observations.

1363
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 1: Let's know, I actually love that observation. I think this

1364
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 1: is this is FI right here? What else?

1365
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 3: What? Here's what happens? I come in here with hot

1366
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 3: fresh cultural commentary. Okay, would y'all any podcasts would be

1367
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 3: grateful to have? And you all think I'm making I'm saying, hey, jure,

1368
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 3: you want some lemonade med at the blueberries? What I

1369
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 3: told you I don't want anymore?

1370
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 1: What? Oh? That's actually a good rule. Yeah, that's a

1371
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 1: really good rule. I could see that being a sort

1372
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:00,799
Speaker 1: of Mariah Carey esque diva thing where she's like Mariah,

1373
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 1: Mariah doesn't want any whats like that's her? What it's

1374
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 1: like in her writer that when you talk to her

1375
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 1: you are not allowed to say what because it makes

1376
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 1: her feel not heard if she says something, even if

1377
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 1: you literally didn't hear and you're like, excuse me, you

1378
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:13,560
Speaker 1: can't say what?

1379
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. I used to never. I used to never repeat

1380
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 3: my jokes if someone didn't hear it, because they'd be like,

1381
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 3: what did you say? And then if I repeated it,

1382
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 3: they'd go and I said, no, it's no longer.

1383
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 1: Yeah you missed it.

1384
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 3: I said it's time to move on. But people don't

1385
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,719
Speaker 3: like that. But I'm just saying that a lot of people.

1386
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 3: I bet you you guys have comments.

1387
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:35,719
Speaker 1: We got some comments.

1388
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 3: I bet the comments on this, this whole interview.

1389
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:46,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I're gonna be like, what, No, damn, George, that

1390
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 1: was good. You ate that up. What are the comments

1391
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 1: gonna be like.

1392
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:54,720
Speaker 3: No, spit it back out, Okay, spit it back out.

1393
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 1: Okay.

1394
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 3: The comments are all going to be like, that is

1395
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 3: true about the worms?

1396
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 1: No, I think it's true. I think it's really genius.

1397
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 1: Have you seen Wednesday? No, Joe, Joe.

1398
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 4: I noticed that the murder weapon spoiler alert is often

1399
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:15,799
Speaker 4: anti freeze.

1400
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 1: Have you ever tasted anti freeze? Yeah? Is it delicious?

1401
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 3: Basically, you're coming on me here. I'm coming on here.

1402
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 3: Basically I'm coming on here. And you're all saying, hey,

1403
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 3: why don't you kill yourself? Which I have had enough.

1404
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:42,679
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Sorry, but this is like you're being

1405
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 1: a stereotype of a uh triggered no no college student.

1406
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 1: We are asking a question. You're saying, so basically, you

1407
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 1: want me to kill myself.

1408
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 3: Basically you're saying no. Basically you're saying, oh, I noticed

1409
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 3: that there's a bomb in their book. Any interesting in

1410
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:02,799
Speaker 3: putting a bomb in your own house? Okay, I'm being sensitive.

1411
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 3: I think you're asking me to kill myself.

1412
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:09,839
Speaker 1: I need to play something. Okay, oh multimedia.

1413
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,520
Speaker 3: Teacher, teacher, please kill yourself?

1414
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 1: What's that? That's what Joe? You say, No, you say it.

1415
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 1: That's what Joe said that we were like in the room.

1416
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 3: And they were like that. Every day they would they

1417
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 3: would hope and pray that they say, hope and pray

1418
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:37,759
Speaker 3: teacher kills himself, rubbing their little paws together. Teacher, teacher,

1419
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 3: please kill yourself. Oh well, here's some more brownies. Everybody.

1420
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:45,799
Speaker 3: Anybody want a gift?

1421
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 1: None for me, thanks, George. Yeah, he's tired. Okay, Joe,

1422
01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 1: you make me laugh like no one else. It is

1423
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 1: so wild over here, one of the funniest. No, excuse me, sorry,

1424
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 1: that's hard.

1425
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 3: I don't don't worry about it.

1426
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 1: It's really difficult for me to give compliments to women.

1427
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:15,719
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, I'm so sweaty okay. So basically, basically, basically,

1428
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 3: I would be in the middle of being like, hey,

1429
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 3: here's the what we're doing today, and samul go.

1430
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 1: Like it's it's Sam will occasionally have a performative yawn.

1431
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 1: It's not performative. It's not performative. I get sleepy. I'm

1432
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 1: I'm self diagnosis and narcoleptic. Oh that's right, I forgot.

1433
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 3: And how do you sneeze?

1434
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 1: Are you a big one?

1435
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 3: And how do you pee?

1436
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 1: Pious people is no, no, no, no, no, no, something

1437
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 1: I found interesting.

1438
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:53,679
Speaker 3: No, yeah, excuse me, sorry, I was keeping going.

1439
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 1: I guess I do want to, uh stay a little

1440
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 1: more on weather. This book is a feminist text, famous

1441
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 1: because a big part of the twist is that anti

1442
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:13,599
Speaker 1: freeze is seen as a feminine weapon, like poisoning, because

1443
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 1: it's poison Yeah, like poisoning is something women do, not men,

1444
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 1: and the men take advantage of like systemic sexism by

1445
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:29,599
Speaker 1: basically having by basically using poison knowing that the police

1446
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 1: and the detectivele think it was a woman. So I

1447
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 1: guess my question for you is, what's a badass woman

1448
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 1: you look up to? And you can't say Maggie Smith

1449
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 1: or Luella Van Horn?

1450
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 3: Can I tell you what it seems like when you

1451
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:52,720
Speaker 3: just talk to me right now? It was like it

1452
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 3: was like, here, honey, I gave you this flower. I

1453
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 3: gave you this flower. Here is this flower in a pot.

1454
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm being like condescending, no, no, no good,

1455
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,639
Speaker 1: google it, no good. You're being like a street sweet

1456
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:09,679
Speaker 1: sweet person.

1457
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 3: Okay, here's this flower in a fresh pot. I put

1458
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:15,799
Speaker 3: a fresh dirt on it. And then I'm like, where'd

1459
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:17,719
Speaker 3: you get the dirt? And You're like you're a grave.

1460
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 1: It's crazy that there's you're having an interaction that I'm

1461
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 1: part of. And then there's this entire undercurrent of this

1462
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 1: story you're making up about it that I cannot predict

1463
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 1: at all.

1464
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 3: You know exactly what it's like, What do you think

1465
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 3: this is? What do you think this has been?

1466
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 1: Like I gave I gave you a compliment.

1467
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 4: I think this has been a really productive conversation about

1468
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 4: your creative process.

1469
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:55,680
Speaker 1: I think I think we're are the ones that we're

1470
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 1: the ones that keep bringing it back to the book.

1471
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 1: You know, often it's the other way around. The celebrity

1472
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 1: will be in view a celebrity on this podcast, authors

1473
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:06,560
Speaker 1: are celebrities. Yeah, nowhere else. So a celebrity will be

1474
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 1: interviewed and then the interviewer will be like, so you

1475
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 1: were spotted with Brad Pitt, And then the celebrity will

1476
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 1: be like, I actually just want to talk about when

1477
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 1: you play, it's about a woman who has a difficult

1478
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 1: time in the grocery store because of the pandemic.

1479
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 3: Oh, sounds a good book.

1480
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 1: Mm hmmmmm. This was a play actually, But and did

1481
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 1: change your book to play.

1482
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 4: That was confusing, Wait, because we were talking about authors

1483
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 4: and then it was like the author of that.

1484
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 1: I actually said celebrity in my story, not author. Well

1485
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 1: I changed it. Oh. My point is usually the interviewer

1486
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 1: is the one trying to take the conversation away from

1487
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 1: the work, and the celebrity tries to bring back to

1488
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 1: the work. But I think Sam and I have done

1489
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:48,599
Speaker 1: such a good job of going back to the book,

1490
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 1: which you see him in fact, not wanting to talk.

1491
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 3: I want to talk about it, believe me.

1492
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 1: What do you want to say about it?

1493
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,480
Speaker 3: Basically, it's like a great summer.

1494
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:09,640
Speaker 1: Read or fall because you know summer's ending soon. But

1495
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 1: it's a quick read, so you know there's still time

1496
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 1: in the summer for it to be a summer reading.

1497
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 1: That's true.

1498
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 3: Well, it's not that quick, that's true.

1499
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 1: Especially we get the big version. It w takes so

1500
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:26,839
Speaker 1: long to read the big version, tire turning those giant pages.

1501
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 3: First of all, okay, first of all, here's how this

1502
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 3: should go. It's been going no, no, no, here's how

1503
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:42,639
Speaker 3: this should go. Okay, the lean to all that from

1504
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 3: before done. Okay, Hey George, nice to see you again. Sam,

1505
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 3: what's that babe? Okay? Okay. So then it's like then

1506
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 3: it's like they're like, do you have a book?

1507
01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, great impression of us, by the way, you

1508
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:01,719
Speaker 1: think we have, queen Ee feminine voices?

1509
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 3: First of all, I used my masculine voice.

1510
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 1: You think this is what we sound like? Hi, wal

1511
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 1: high Grace, I'm trying that's you. That's who you think

1512
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:11,599
Speaker 1: we are.

1513
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:16,799
Speaker 3: I had never trying to bait, I mean get baited.

1514
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:19,840
Speaker 1: Uh, huh. That makes one of us.

1515
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 3: Okay, who he's he's obsess he's obsessed. Okay, So basically, basically,

1516
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 3: here's the thing.

1517
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 1: Mm hmm okay, here's you go again with basically, let's

1518
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 1: hope you land this one.

1519
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:43,760
Speaker 3: Really cool that you brought a book. They're really cool

1520
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 3: that thanks for giving us to this book.

1521
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 1: So you think we're like straight acting because we're self

1522
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 1: hating gays and we wanna we want to see Mike masculine.

1523
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 1: Is that what you think?

1524
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 3: Sam? That was really flattering impression, wasn't it.

1525
01:20:57,479 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 1: I thought that was really flattering. Thank you for that. Okay,

1526
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 1: so tell us how is it going to go.

1527
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 3: Impressions aside. I'll just be neutral.

1528
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 1: Uh huh. Yeah, So you think we stand for nothing,

1529
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 1: never vote, We've never voted in an election. We're just

1530
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 1: like centrists. I hope, I hope Biden goes back into

1531
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 1: the race.

1532
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 3: Honestly, I don't know if you're staying away from sugar

1533
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 3: and carbs or what's happening. Okay, I noticed that George

1534
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 3: was ripped when I got here. Say, I might be

1535
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 3: shocked if you weren't ripped as well.

1536
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 1: So I'm not ripped.

1537
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 3: I would be shocked to find that out. Both of

1538
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 3: you are obviously on a steaming rocket to the top.

1539
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 3: But but I just want to warn you that there

1540
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 3: are monsters drag getting it down.

1541
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't notice there was an anti fame

1542
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 1: sentiment in the book. Yeah, And actually that is something

1543
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:09,560
Speaker 1: we wanted to talk to you about. Is like, is

1544
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 1: this book you having been inside the Hollywood Beast. You know,

1545
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 1: you're a head you know, head writer these big shows.

1546
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:21,639
Speaker 1: You've met people that would literally kill to be on TV.

1547
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 1: On Jeffrey Epstein's Islands post cancelations, you're the only ones

1548
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 1: still going. People are like, no one lives here anymore,

1549
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 1: you say, I'm ready to part. And so then you're

1550
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:42,639
Speaker 1: writing the satire about all everything you've seen. Yes, a satire,

1551
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 1: it's a satire the entertainment industry. No.

1552
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 3: But and I just want to say that I wrote

1553
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 3: this before I did work with I did work with

1554
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 3: Sophie Buttle, who's who has yes, Yes, And I worked

1555
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 3: with Taylor Tomlinson and Taylor and Sophie are to I

1556
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:01,640
Speaker 3: would say, two of the most those villainist characters in

1557
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:03,600
Speaker 3: the book. But that has no relation. I wrote the

1558
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 3: book before I met them. Uh, okay, I just wanted

1559
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 3: to get that clear.

1560
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 1: So we did not accuse you of that. No, But

1561
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 1: I also don't think Sophie's villainous. I think Sophie is

1562
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, she seems kind of neutral. Yeah, and

1563
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 1: she's also sort of like I think, honestly, like she

1564
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:24,759
Speaker 1: seems mousey.

1565
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 3: What Sophie de Plaza, She's.

1566
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 1: Sort of like she doesn't seem to have a lot

1567
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 1: of people in her life. She on a moment's noticed

1568
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 1: she can go cat sid for two weeks. She's like

1569
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 1: clearly wanting human interaction. That's why she keeps texting Luela.

1570
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 4: And to me it felt like, you know, it felt

1571
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:48,639
Speaker 4: like family where it was like, oh, she's mean because

1572
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 4: you're so close.

1573
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you think she's mean, like really mean.

1574
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 3: Okay, So I guess what's happening here is that you

1575
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 3: guys are kind of on the literary side. Well obviously,

1576
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 3: and it's becoming clear to me after my series of

1577
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 3: tests that you did a deeper read than I thought.

1578
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 1: Well, we're just being respectful.

1579
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 3: What if I told you this was all.

1580
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 1: A try to engage with the text, What was all

1581
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 1: at once writing the book like a Willy Wonka style thing?

1582
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:25,599
Speaker 3: I am tired of you comparing me to Willy Wank.

1583
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 3: That's the last time you're doing it. I feel more.

1584
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 1: Once, no more Wonka's you don't like compared to anyone.

1585
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 1: You don't like being compared to Luela. You don't like

1586
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 1: being compared to Willy Wonka.

1587
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 3: These are two poor examples. That's like saying, oh, you

1588
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 3: don't like being compared to that squirrel in the ground,

1589
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:45,599
Speaker 3: and you don't like being compared to Witch.

1590
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 1: And you couldn't think of one badass woman that you look.

1591
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 3: Up to, and I thought we moved on from that.

1592
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 1: You couldn't think of one badass woman. And you think Sophie,

1593
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 1: a female character you wrote, is a huge C word.

1594
01:24:57,920 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 3: I never said.

1595
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:01,720
Speaker 1: You said that. I can't repeat it, but you said it.

1596
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 3: I now said the C word A woman I look

1597
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 3: up too strong? I would have to say. I would

1598
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 3: have to say Viola Davis.

1599
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 1: Have you met her?

1600
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:16,599
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1601
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 1: Really? What's she like?

1602
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 3: She's amazing?

1603
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:22,680
Speaker 1: I where you meet her?

1604
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 3: Well? I got I got a part playing opposite her

1605
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 3: in the TV show What TV show? It's called The

1606
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 3: First Lady?

1607
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 1: Oh?

1608
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 3: Okay?

1609
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:35,719
Speaker 1: She plays Michelle Obama.

1610
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:39,000
Speaker 3: Yes, And I was supposed to play a high status

1611
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 3: character opposite her, and I couldn't really do it, and

1612
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 3: I got sequestered several times by the director who kept

1613
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:51,719
Speaker 3: telling me to please do better. And then the director

1614
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 3: who hates famously hates red lipstick, after pulling me aside

1615
01:25:57,120 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 3: ten times to do better, she said, put her in

1616
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 3: the red lipstick.

1617
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 1: Meaning red lipstick will elevate your performance.

1618
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 3: That was her last attempt before she just cut me

1619
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 3: all together, I think so. She said, put her in

1620
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 3: the red lipstick, and all of them knew what that meant.

1621
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 1: What what? What was she putting you in red lipsticks

1622
01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 1: so that she would hate you on screens so that

1623
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 1: she could cut you.

1624
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:26,640
Speaker 3: I'm not sure, but it was.

1625
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 1: It was.

1626
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 3: It was one of the worst experiences I've yet to have.

1627
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 3: And yes, I'm including working with you and our lunch George.

1628
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 1: Okay interesting so and and Viola was so kind.

1629
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 3: And she was like, it's okay, so nice.

1630
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 1: That's nice.

1631
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:56,280
Speaker 3: She's really much much better at almost everything than I am.

1632
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 3: And she was so nice.

1633
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 1: So I'm curious about this high status thing. Yeah, yeah,

1634
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:09,639
Speaker 1: who are you playing? I was supposed to Angela Merkel? Joe,

1635
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:14,680
Speaker 1: be honest, were you playing Angela Merkel? Don't lie.

1636
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 3: No, I didn't have the part of Angelo.

1637
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:19,719
Speaker 1: Angolo Merkele in a bold lip.

1638
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 3: Angle.

1639
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:25,800
Speaker 1: If she slayd angle, If she slayed is Luela van

1640
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:28,640
Speaker 1: Horn based on Angela Merkel. If she's slayd.

1641
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:33,680
Speaker 3: I don't even know what frame of mind you all

1642
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:34,640
Speaker 3: are in anymore.

1643
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 1: Okay, Hillary Clinton, how big of a role was this?

1644
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 3: This was one scene. Basically I was supposed to be

1645
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 3: her chief of staff.

1646
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:47,720
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's big, I know.

1647
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 3: And I was supposed to be like dismissive of her,

1648
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 3: being like I know how to do this, you don't.

1649
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 3: But it was Viola Davis. So what am I supposed

1650
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:59,799
Speaker 3: to do? Pretend like acting? I'm not gonna be acting.

1651
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 1: Mm hm. That's not fair. To make your high status

1652
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 1: against her, that's not fair. That is crazy. And to

1653
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 1: make your high status against a Viola Davis b playing

1654
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 1: Michelle Obama.

1655
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 3: That's like two layers of like can you stand up straight?

1656
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 1: Tough? That's tough?

1657
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 3: Tough because I can't. Turns out it turns out I

1658
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 3: can't led the audition. No, no, no, I didn't.

1659
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 1: Was your dad directing it? JJ? Abrams?

1660
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 3: I know you guys think I'm grazy. Abrams but I'm not. Okay,

1661
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 3: I told you this several times, even though I look

1662
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 3: it sound like her. What's that song she does sing?

1663
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:42,840
Speaker 1: I literally couldn't tell you. I know the one from

1664
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 1: the meme? No no, no, no, no, no, oh yeah yeah,

1665
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 1: oh my god, oh my god, it was a meme.

1666
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:59,679
Speaker 3: Gosh, you guys really do like mean culture?

1667
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 1: How dare you accuse us of liking meme culture? Everything

1668
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 1: we every meme we have been exposed to, has been

1669
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:10,639
Speaker 1: against our will. This is one of Joe's big things

1670
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 1: that she would accuse the room of being obsessed with

1671
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:14,680
Speaker 1: meme culture. But this is a classic. It's because you're

1672
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 1: not on Instagram, so you get none of it, and

1673
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 1: we like get some of the backwashed from just like residually,

1674
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 1: she has a Burner account. It's private and secret. Are

1675
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:24,599
Speaker 1: you the one commenting on all our videos?

1676
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 4: What Joe and George? You'll know it's her secret account

1677
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 4: because it's just Joe Firestone.

1678
01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:34,760
Speaker 1: Okay, But like, but with numbers instead of letters.

1679
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:38,960
Speaker 3: You two can go, kid, you guys can go. Why

1680
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 3: don't you go to dinner? Why don't you take an

1681
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 3: early break and go to dinner? So, yeah, it was

1682
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 3: numbers instead of letters, and yeah, it is my name,

1683
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 3: and I didn't know that if you get a Burner account,

1684
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 3: you're supposed to make it different.

1685
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 1: Can I say something, cornhead? I rarely have this sort

1686
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 1: of like childlike fomo or like fear of being left

1687
01:29:57,040 --> 01:30:00,280
Speaker 1: out anymore. But one way in which I'd wait, oh

1688
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 1: my gosh, it's so unprofessional. Joe's head ones just fell

1689
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 1: clear off her head. One of the ways in which

1690
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:11,040
Speaker 1: I do, oh, look, i'm holding it with two hands

1691
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 1: and on a review, people love to go like this.

1692
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 1: One of the ways in which I have I don't

1693
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 1: know fear of being left out is I have this

1694
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:29,479
Speaker 1: fear that everyone I know has all accounts that I

1695
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 1: don't know about, because occasionally I do learn about one

1696
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 1: of them, and then I follow, and then I'm like,

1697
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:40,800
Speaker 1: so this has been happening this whole time. I know,

1698
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:45,479
Speaker 1: no one told me. I know everyone else is just chatting.

1699
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 1: I know, and sometimes you know, in our community, Joe,

1700
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 1: those accounts will also have full cock. What are your

1701
01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:57,000
Speaker 1: thoughts about that?

1702
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:03,920
Speaker 3: If you talk at bout a chicken, if you're talking

1703
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 3: about the Vaney tube, the.

1704
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:12,360
Speaker 1: Tube, Ainy tube, Damn, that's nasty. No, that's a really amazing.

1705
01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:14,479
Speaker 3: No, yeah, no, Sam texted me.

1706
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:17,640
Speaker 1: They all feel that feel in the veiny tube hit.

1707
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:25,000
Speaker 1: Oh wow, what would you call it here?

1708
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:32,280
Speaker 3: What do you call it on a day to day basis?

1709
01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:34,439
Speaker 3: You see one on the street, what do you say

1710
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:34,920
Speaker 3: it's called?

1711
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 1: If it's on the street, I would say that, uh

1712
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 1: maybe penis or.

1713
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:47,919
Speaker 3: But if it's inside a house, like fucking the house.

1714
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:50,880
Speaker 1: Like a giant Vaney tube fucking.

1715
01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:55,599
Speaker 3: A house, you all need to get your priority street. Okay,

1716
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:58,000
Speaker 3: I'm talking about if it's inside the.

1717
01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:03,280
Speaker 1: House, inside my house? Sure is it? Is it mine?

1718
01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1719
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 1: Again, it's going to have to go ahead and be

1720
01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:12,080
Speaker 1: context dependent whether it's in or out of the house.

1721
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:16,600
Speaker 3: Okay, whatever tube tube, tube to go?

1722
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:23,439
Speaker 1: Okay, so I have one tube to go. Carpenter, No,

1723
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:24,879
Speaker 1: that's chapel.

1724
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:26,360
Speaker 3: Oh my mistake.

1725
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:32,560
Speaker 1: We were wanting for all. We don't want to keep you.

1726
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:33,360
Speaker 1: We don't want to keep you.

1727
01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:37,440
Speaker 3: Okay, amazing, How time flies when you're being viscerated?

1728
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:40,800
Speaker 1: What in your dream of this? Are not being eviscerated?

1729
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:43,400
Speaker 1: We have been uplifting you this entire time. We've been

1730
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 1: promoting your book, we've been singing your praises. We're saying

1731
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:49,000
Speaker 1: you're the funniest person we know. Uh, Sam is talking

1732
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:50,760
Speaker 1: about all the funny things you've been saying that you

1733
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 1: refuse to believe are funny and you think are professional.

1734
01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 1: I didn't even tell them about t job, Jobo. We

1735
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:59,120
Speaker 1: gave you a platform to talk about acting alongside Viola

1736
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:00,760
Speaker 1: Davis and to me award.

1737
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:03,120
Speaker 3: Winner, and I did enjoy that platform.

1738
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:13,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think that story is faked. We'll play along, Joe.

1739
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 1: Would you like us to ask any other questions about

1740
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:17,559
Speaker 1: your book? Yeah? Yeah, Like what do you want us

1741
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:17,840
Speaker 1: to ask?

1742
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 3: Like maybe like what's your what was your favorite? Like

1743
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:22,639
Speaker 3: what is it evolved?

1744
01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 1: Okay, what is your favorite? What is it evolved? That's

1745
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 1: a great question, Sam, Joe, what do you think? Feel

1746
01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 1: free to take them one at a time. I don't

1747
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:34,280
Speaker 1: like it.

1748
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 3: When you repeat exactly what I'm saying what I feel it.

1749
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:45,160
Speaker 3: So we're on a playground and you all have a

1750
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:47,439
Speaker 3: big ball and I am running to it.

1751
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:51,559
Speaker 1: Joe, we have one final question, So what's your take?

1752
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:57,559
Speaker 3: Huh, my take?

1753
01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:06,479
Speaker 1: What's your take? Here's a question for you. Yeah, what

1754
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:10,599
Speaker 1: are your three favorite books? That's a tough one. We're

1755
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 1: letterbox now, but for books.

1756
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:19,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, I really enjoy the friend notes Yes, okay,

1757
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 3: but I never remember if the that is at the end,

1758
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:23,360
Speaker 3: so I'm always hesitant.

1759
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:26,799
Speaker 1: Have you seen the film adaptation? I haven't either. Well, gosh,

1760
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:29,280
Speaker 1: go together. I'm not even kidding.

1761
01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 3: Actually, okay, you didn't.

1762
01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 1: Like that?

1763
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:38,360
Speaker 3: Maybe the meanest thing you've ever I'm not even joking

1764
01:34:38,439 --> 01:34:40,800
Speaker 3: and not even being satired that I would spend time

1765
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 3: with you free.

1766
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:45,040
Speaker 1: Okay, the friend what else? This is a really hard

1767
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:47,960
Speaker 1: question I read. I thank god we don't have to

1768
01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:49,720
Speaker 1: answer it. I literally.

1769
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:58,280
Speaker 3: I really like uh, I really had fun with with

1770
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:03,679
Speaker 3: Janice Howitt's the appeal? Okay, that's that's written in emails

1771
01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:07,760
Speaker 3: and text messages. Ooh and it's a mystery about a

1772
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:09,360
Speaker 3: fundraiser gone wrong.

1773
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love that. Okay, got that one down.

1774
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:17,240
Speaker 3: That's got it jotted down in a community theater. Oh

1775
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:21,720
Speaker 3: that's really okay, great, okay, And I'll have to say,

1776
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:25,680
Speaker 3: you know what I'll put up there. I'll put up

1777
01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:28,040
Speaker 3: there The Secret History by Donna Donatar.

1778
01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 1: Great book. We both read that. We both read that

1779
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:32,400
Speaker 1: you didn't Did you like it? Yes? We loved it.

1780
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:34,000
Speaker 3: I had a fun time with it.

1781
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:36,560
Speaker 1: You know, there was an aborted adaptation of it. It

1782
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:40,639
Speaker 1: was like for years, like in development helmet, it never happened. Really, Yeah,

1783
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:43,519
Speaker 1: can you see it being so good?

1784
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:44,040
Speaker 3: Yes?

1785
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:47,960
Speaker 1: Joe by the rights, Joe by the rights, Joe by

1786
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:48,599
Speaker 1: the rights.

1787
01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:52,559
Speaker 3: I actually don't have a job right now, so I'm

1788
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:55,760
Speaker 3: not really And I did just spend accidentally, twenty seven

1789
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:58,640
Speaker 3: dollars on noodle, So I kind of am in a

1790
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 3: place where I need to kiss or kind of what

1791
01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:03,440
Speaker 3: I'm putting.

1792
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:05,720
Speaker 1: Out, Well, you have to spend money to make money.

1793
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:09,400
Speaker 1: That's so true. Go in debt, Go in debt. Just

1794
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:12,680
Speaker 1: go in dead, go in debt, take out alone. I'll

1795
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:13,760
Speaker 1: do it with you. Let's go in debt.

1796
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:18,840
Speaker 3: And I'm not even joking. And I'm not even joked, to.

1797
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:21,360
Speaker 1: Be fair, at that time he was joking. I was joking, Joe,

1798
01:36:21,360 --> 01:36:23,680
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go in debt. I'm not like you.

1799
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:27,120
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go in debt. I have savings,

1800
01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:29,000
Speaker 1: I like take I'm like good with money.

1801
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:32,720
Speaker 3: I am nearly forty and I never I never have

1802
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 3: spent an hour and a half like this.

1803
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:36,759
Speaker 1: Spending twenty seven dollars on noodles to me is like nothing.

1804
01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:37,840
Speaker 1: You know what.

1805
01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:42,800
Speaker 3: Normally do you know what. Normally my podcast appearances are like, what, Hi,

1806
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:45,479
Speaker 3: how are you good good? How are you?

1807
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:46,719
Speaker 1: Sounds ribting?

1808
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 4: Hi?

1809
01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:54,920
Speaker 1: HOI? How are you good good? How are you.

1810
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:00,280
Speaker 3: All?

1811
01:37:00,760 --> 01:37:00,800
Speaker 1: You?

1812
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:03,679
Speaker 3: Will you all deserve? You all deserve a long break

1813
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:04,479
Speaker 3: with a ro coup?

1814
01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:11,559
Speaker 1: What? What a long break with a rokup?

1815
01:37:11,640 --> 01:37:12,200
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

1816
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:15,800
Speaker 1: No? Not at all, not even a little. Do you

1817
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 1: mean like like we did watch the TV to watch

1818
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:21,400
Speaker 1: them TV? Yeah? Maybe? Have you been watching The Hunting Wise?

1819
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:23,200
Speaker 3: I thought you were gonna ask about Gilded Age?

1820
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 1: I would never I already know you watched the Gilded Age?

1821
01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:30,320
Speaker 3: No, I don't watch The Hunting Wise. It was too sexual.

1822
01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:32,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're not gonna like that.

1823
01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 3: I don't like I don't like simulated sex.

1824
01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:36,120
Speaker 1: There was both fucking suck in that show.

1825
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:38,080
Speaker 3: I can't watch it. I like it when it's implied

1826
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:41,799
Speaker 3: with the sheet, with the sheet up here covering the nipples.

1827
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:47,880
Speaker 1: Joe, you don't like sex and things scare you easily right?

1828
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:49,240
Speaker 1: You don't like scary.

1829
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:53,960
Speaker 3: If if you said those sentences to anyone else, they

1830
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:56,320
Speaker 3: would out of their way to kill you.

1831
01:37:57,520 --> 01:37:59,559
Speaker 1: You know your mind always goes to murder. No one

1832
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:01,439
Speaker 1: would kill you if you ask them if they like

1833
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:01,960
Speaker 1: sex or not.

1834
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:05,840
Speaker 3: No, he says, you don't like sex, and you're scare easy,

1835
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:10,280
Speaker 3: like honestly, like, honestly, that's how I'm supposed to walk around.

1836
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:11,160
Speaker 1: Joe.

1837
01:38:11,479 --> 01:38:13,640
Speaker 3: I'm trying to promote a book and you're going off

1838
01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:17,160
Speaker 3: saying explicit sentences you don't like sex and you're scare easy.

1839
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:20,679
Speaker 4: I think what Sam is leading to is it's interesting, Yeah,

1840
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:23,360
Speaker 4: that you wrote a book focusing on sex and murder.

1841
01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:24,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, sex and violence.

1842
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:27,760
Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad that both you find it interesting, but

1843
01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:29,680
Speaker 3: it's important to scare ourselves.

1844
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:33,160
Speaker 1: Were you scared writing the book where you like you're like,

1845
01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:44,360
Speaker 1: especially when it's so giant in the calendar letters, your

1846
01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:48,120
Speaker 1: baby shoes were quaking. You couldn't even got on top

1847
01:38:48,160 --> 01:38:55,920
Speaker 1: of those stairs to escape. Big back, going left and right.

1848
01:39:00,680 --> 01:39:08,280
Speaker 3: Well, I can't believe I went to Dumbo for this.

1849
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:14,880
Speaker 1: I want to say, we've been we could talk to

1850
01:39:14,920 --> 01:39:17,479
Speaker 1: you for hours, and you're welcome to stay. We're trying

1851
01:39:17,479 --> 01:39:19,200
Speaker 1: to wrap it up for your sake, because we want

1852
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:22,479
Speaker 1: to be respectful of your tent, obviously, but it's hard

1853
01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:24,400
Speaker 1: to wrap it up. I'm feeling I'm struggling to find

1854
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 1: an end point.

1855
01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:26,080
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll give you an end point.

1856
01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:29,240
Speaker 1: Oh okay, well you're good at the end, that's what

1857
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:31,840
Speaker 1: you do first. Oh, but that's a good point. And

1858
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:37,800
Speaker 1: after after you do that, we can just riff Joe,

1859
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:38,639
Speaker 1: what's the end?

1860
01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:43,760
Speaker 3: Okay. So you guys could say something like, oh, I

1861
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:46,000
Speaker 3: didn't know my hair was this Okay. So basically you

1862
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:49,280
Speaker 3: guys could Okay, you guys could say something like, oh,

1863
01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:51,360
Speaker 3: I didn't realize what it took to write a book

1864
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:55,200
Speaker 3: and to be so and to be into and to

1865
01:39:55,320 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 3: get out, to get on the same level, let's just

1866
01:39:57,400 --> 01:40:01,160
Speaker 3: say something that we want to do a that's a

1867
01:40:01,240 --> 01:40:02,040
Speaker 3: big goal of ours.

1868
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:07,000
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, So we can both say, oh, I

1869
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:09,639
Speaker 1: didn't know how hard it was to write a book,

1870
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:12,439
Speaker 1: and so to get on the same level, let us

1871
01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:14,559
Speaker 1: all say something that is a goal of ours.

1872
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:18,880
Speaker 3: Sure you are not doing a self tape.

1873
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:24,080
Speaker 1: For the role of me, Okay, sorry, I was doing

1874
01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:26,599
Speaker 1: a self tape for the role of Michelle Obama's chief

1875
01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:29,920
Speaker 1: of staff, and I think I absolutely nail you booked down,

1876
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:37,280
Speaker 1: booked get him some red list. Okay, So what is

1877
01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:39,720
Speaker 1: a goal of ours? We're talking short term, medium term

1878
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:40,960
Speaker 1: or long term long term?

1879
01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:43,479
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I am stuck to the chair.

1880
01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:46,040
Speaker 1: Long.

1881
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:48,719
Speaker 4: Okay, I didn't realize how hard it was to write

1882
01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 4: a book. I'm so impressed that you have put pen

1883
01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:57,519
Speaker 4: to paper and really done it. For self published. You

1884
01:40:57,640 --> 01:41:00,440
Speaker 4: said I won't take no for an answer. I'm self publishing,

1885
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:03,639
Speaker 4: and then eventually they did say yes and real published.

1886
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:12,160
Speaker 4: That is really beautiful and I hope to put myself

1887
01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:16,160
Speaker 4: out there in the long term and short term, forever

1888
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:16,599
Speaker 4: and ever.

1889
01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:23,479
Speaker 1: Amen. Amen, Joe, you are quite literally one of my

1890
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:27,280
Speaker 1: role models. Joe, You're the funniest person on earth.

1891
01:41:27,479 --> 01:41:29,959
Speaker 3: You guys are just saying that because I'm twenty years older.

1892
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:32,000
Speaker 1: Than so we are not moving. Even if you were

1893
01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:36,080
Speaker 1: twelve years old, I would say, fuck, I am behind,

1894
01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:39,080
Speaker 1: because that twelve year old is really funny and talented.

1895
01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:41,519
Speaker 3: You know what would be wonderful is not to go

1896
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:45,760
Speaker 3: back at some point. I would say that maybe when

1897
01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 3: I by the time I was eighteen or so before,

1898
01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:52,320
Speaker 3: when I was seventeen, I had I just took I

1899
01:41:52,439 --> 01:41:54,400
Speaker 3: took a hormonal birth controlled it.

1900
01:41:55,520 --> 01:41:59,000
Speaker 1: It made Yeah, keep going, please keep going. This is

1901
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:05,240
Speaker 1: how I hope this episode would end. Thank you for

1902
01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:06,439
Speaker 1: bringing it up, by the way, because it's been the

1903
01:42:06,479 --> 01:42:08,280
Speaker 1: elephant in the room the whole time. So when you

1904
01:42:08,360 --> 01:42:13,880
Speaker 1: were when I was seventeen, you took a hormonal birth control. Yes,

1905
01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:15,320
Speaker 1: so far, so good.

1906
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:24,719
Speaker 3: It made my it made my brisk grow long. Okay,

1907
01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:26,680
Speaker 3: I just think about when I was.

1908
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:31,000
Speaker 1: Twelve forward or down both. Oh w well that's not long,

1909
01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:31,920
Speaker 1: then that's just big.

1910
01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:37,280
Speaker 3: No, no, no, trust me. Okay. So then so basically

1911
01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:40,320
Speaker 3: and then ever since then, the rest of my body

1912
01:42:40,360 --> 01:42:43,840
Speaker 3: has changed, but they stay long, and you know.

1913
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:45,759
Speaker 1: It was because of the hormonal birth control.

1914
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:48,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think about when I was twelve, I

1915
01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:49,320
Speaker 3: didn't have this.

1916
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:51,880
Speaker 1: Are you sure it wasn't just puberty? Right?

1917
01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:54,200
Speaker 3: No, I don't go through puberty at age seventeen.

1918
01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:59,000
Speaker 1: Sure, Oh so twelve to seventeen normal boobs? Yeah, starting

1919
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:04,640
Speaker 1: seventeen long? What you're saying, Yes, I have to say this.

1920
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:06,439
Speaker 1: You're putting us in a trap because for us to

1921
01:43:07,160 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 1: either debunk or agree with this, we would have to

1922
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:12,240
Speaker 1: ogle at your body and comment on it, which.

1923
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:14,439
Speaker 4: Is complicated I don't want to do. If I were

1924
01:43:14,479 --> 01:43:17,439
Speaker 4: to deflect, I would just say what and we know

1925
01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:18,200
Speaker 4: I'm not allowed to do that.

1926
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:21,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, strap in the summer camp because you're about you

1927
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:22,839
Speaker 3: don't need to debunk.

1928
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:28,400
Speaker 1: You need to pre bunk prebunk. Is that the same

1929
01:43:28,479 --> 01:43:31,560
Speaker 1: as pre comm or No, So you're raising awareness for

1930
01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:34,840
Speaker 1: birth control and changing people's Can I tell you something.

1931
01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:38,680
Speaker 3: I try to do callbacks like you will callbacks.

1932
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:47,240
Speaker 1: Callbacks, Okay, no cowbacks. I literally was like, what is she?

1933
01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:53,800
Speaker 1: Oh got it, it's no cowilbacks. We'll have two cower

1934
01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:54,360
Speaker 1: back shots.

1935
01:43:56,880 --> 01:44:00,360
Speaker 3: I try to do qullibacks like you all. Okay, I

1936
01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:01,760
Speaker 3: know you guys have been doing call back.

1937
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:04,919
Speaker 1: I guess my question is, what is the long boobs

1938
01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:08,479
Speaker 1: calling back to? To me, it's like an entirely new joke.

1939
01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:10,000
Speaker 1: I know we're trying to end and you're bringing up

1940
01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:12,479
Speaker 1: a new thing. So now now we suddenly have to

1941
01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:13,320
Speaker 1: do long boobs.

1942
01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:17,760
Speaker 3: No, I was trying to do a callback to two.

1943
01:44:18,160 --> 01:44:19,200
Speaker 3: I'm not sure I didn't.

1944
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:23,360
Speaker 1: So you thought, let me start this story about long

1945
01:44:23,439 --> 01:44:26,400
Speaker 1: boobs and hopefully it'll lead somewhere that is actually a

1946
01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:27,400
Speaker 1: thing we've already said.

1947
01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:30,560
Speaker 3: Improv is so hard. I just wish I could watch it.

1948
01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:36,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, everyone wishes they could watch it. If only

1949
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:38,680
Speaker 1: we could all just watch improv, the world will be

1950
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:39,599
Speaker 1: so much easier.

1951
01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:41,960
Speaker 3: It's just like you all kind of have your own

1952
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 3: little thing in your all states starting sentences together. You're

1953
01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:49,120
Speaker 3: doing callbacks, and I just think that it's Oh, is

1954
01:44:49,120 --> 01:44:50,280
Speaker 3: this supposed to be a toothbrush?

1955
01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:50,880
Speaker 1: No?

1956
01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:57,799
Speaker 3: Oh, basically, basically, I just think that it's really impressed

1957
01:44:57,840 --> 01:44:58,640
Speaker 3: with what you guys do.

1958
01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:04,360
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, Joe. We think you are so impressive.

1959
01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:06,719
Speaker 1: We literally are the funniest person on earth.

1960
01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:07,000
Speaker 3: You are.

1961
01:45:07,080 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 1: It's true. We talk about it all the time. Supposed

1962
01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:13,280
Speaker 1: to be like little lab like you know, you might

1963
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:17,200
Speaker 1: call it a cock. Yeah, they're like vy vany tubes,

1964
01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:19,799
Speaker 1: the old Vaney tube.

1965
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:25,280
Speaker 4: Everyone go buy Murder on Sex Island. It's an amazing

1966
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:28,479
Speaker 4: late summer read or early fall read.

1967
01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:30,839
Speaker 3: Is that your Chester to Vaney tubes?

1968
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:36,400
Speaker 1: Okay, I get it, I get it, you get it.

1969
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:38,400
Speaker 1: Good job, Joe.

1970
01:45:39,439 --> 01:45:41,120
Speaker 3: I never want anyone to look at me the way

1971
01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:41,720
Speaker 3: you just did.

1972
01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:49,559
Speaker 1: In my defense, what happened is it doesn't matter.

1973
01:45:51,320 --> 01:45:52,360
Speaker 3: Can I take this home?

1974
01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 1: Yes, of course, it's for you, Joe.

1975
01:45:57,680 --> 01:45:59,360
Speaker 3: Say, I'm enjoy nine am.

1976
01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:05,560
Speaker 1: Because because of the time difference. Okay, it's not a

1977
01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:11,000
Speaker 1: seven hour time difference. That was a New York first

1978
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:16,479
Speaker 1: la joke. Everyone, I'm in La Joe. So the time

1979
01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:20,160
Speaker 1: is different. Joe. We love you.

1980
01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:21,000
Speaker 3: I love you too.

1981
01:46:21,439 --> 01:46:23,760
Speaker 1: Joe. You're the greatest there ever was. You are literally

1982
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:27,439
Speaker 1: the greatest ever was. And I have to say I'm

1983
01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:28,880
Speaker 1: so happy you're back in New York. Yeah.

1984
01:46:30,120 --> 01:46:30,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1985
01:46:31,439 --> 01:46:33,600
Speaker 1: And if I were to choose between second fuck, I

1986
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:35,400
Speaker 1: would say, whichever one's the best one, that's the one

1987
01:46:35,400 --> 01:46:38,800
Speaker 1: I would choose for you. I'm confused about which one

1988
01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:44,400
Speaker 1: you prefer. I think her preference was quite clear in

1989
01:46:44,439 --> 01:46:47,240
Speaker 1: the original reading of which Yeah.

1990
01:46:47,200 --> 01:46:50,080
Speaker 3: Okay, no, I prefer if you're going to have a candy,

1991
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:52,160
Speaker 3: I'd rather shuck it than fuck it.

1992
01:46:53,080 --> 01:46:58,920
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't know candy it was involved. We have

1993
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Speaker 1: to end. This is crazy, Okay, goodbye, Okay, goodbye.

1994
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2002
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