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Speaker 1: Paul Women Yeah, pause his word.

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Speaker 2: I don't care, it's still a pause. Liquefying days. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: That's what dude anywhere he gets that movies get one.

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Speaker 3: Years the Talk of New York Tony. Yeah, yo, you

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Speaker 3: that was dope. This guy on You don't know that

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Speaker 3: was your name because I.

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Speaker 4: Was gonna go with the Turbulus Tony, but I was

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Speaker 4: just something new.

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Speaker 3: Whatever whatever man whatever man were alcohol up. Can I

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Speaker 3: say my name? I forget my saying that. That's the

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Speaker 3: boy Uncle Murdy jet Lenny. You know the bout we

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Speaker 3: turbinly Tony. Just the real report live from New York City.

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Speaker 3: Make sure y'all like sharing, subscribe. Make some noise for

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Speaker 3: the infamous icon mogul Paul Rosenberg, Shady Aftermath and the

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Speaker 3: infamous one of the best DJs in the world I've

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Speaker 3: seen to do a world wide tune and mixtape.

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Speaker 1: He's been there from the beginning. Makes some noise for

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Speaker 1: DJ who.

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Speaker 4: Who Yo, yo kid, I can't believe I got this guy,

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Speaker 4: Paul Rosenberg.

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Speaker 1: I know, it's like it's like Rick Rubens, like you

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Speaker 1: got a Tupac s.

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Speaker 5: I made him come for just for some cover you know, definitely,

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Speaker 5: definitely not. I'm not gonna I'm his lawyers, as our lawyer,

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Speaker 5: I'll defer any questions that I don't really want to

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Speaker 5: answer to.

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Speaker 1: Who can look at that?

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Speaker 4: Oh not well for me, you know, I'm just glad

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Speaker 4: I got you guys. Here brings back a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of to be here. Yeah, congratulations, by the way, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Shout to everybody who's watching for value doing great. When

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Speaker 3: I see you, I have flashbacks of me being on

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Speaker 3: the run, like with my brother's passport and we was

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Speaker 3: in Barcelona.

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Speaker 5: Called with your brother's passport. Yeah, that's say you violated

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Speaker 5: your probation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have my brother's passport right, And I remember

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Speaker 3: being in Barcelona with you guys and cigars.

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Speaker 1: And the O and who Kid and were the days?

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Speaker 1: Those were the days? Man?

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Speaker 3: You know, shady aftermath people don't you know, they don't

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Speaker 3: know how it feels to be like in the studio

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Speaker 3: with greats like Eminem, doctor Dre and being around guys

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Speaker 3: like you, like how did you meet Eminem?

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Speaker 5: I met Eminem through proof?

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Speaker 5: So when I was in law school in Detroit, I

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Speaker 5: went to University of Detroit Law School. I used to

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Speaker 5: and so he had his store and they used to

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Speaker 5: used to have open mics and MC battles and Proof

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Speaker 5: So one Saturday, he pulled me aside and he said, yo,

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Speaker 5: Proof knew me as a rapper, so that's why he

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Speaker 5: So I graduated law school and moved to New York,

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Speaker 5: he said, you have to check out the new stuff

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Speaker 5: and I said, Hey, do you remember me? And he

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Speaker 5: said yeah, of course. I said, can you send me

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Speaker 5: the new stuff you're working on? Yeah, I'll send it

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Speaker 5: So he mailed it to me. Remember there's no MP three's,

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Speaker 5: So he sends me this cassette and on it was

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Speaker 5: So then I was like, Okay, pressed, He's got it

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Speaker 4: We got DJ Kid, one of the biggest DJs in

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Speaker 4: the world, mixtape DJs our dj My guy, what do

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Speaker 1: What do you like better and what do you feel

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Speaker 2: It kind of like works hand in hand because you know,

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Speaker 1: You know, I just did something with.

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Speaker 2: They want that energy, right, It's kind of like a

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Speaker 2: just like people grow with that. Like it's kind of like,

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Speaker 1: Like people were sold tapes to pay bills, Like.

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Speaker 2: I never saw people that. There's so many different stories

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Speaker 2: it shows how powerful, like there's a difference between music

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Speaker 1: They like you said, there was no Internet, there was

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Speaker 1: And back then it was like what Biggie Tupac that

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Speaker 2: And then fifty came out with this amazing story that

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Speaker 2: What was the system when fifty cents the future was?

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Speaker 2: It was it sodom Are got the tape and then

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so THEO is representing him and he was like,

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Speaker 5: Passed it to Marshall and at the time he was

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Speaker 5: So so you know, we met with him and and

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Speaker 1: Definitely come on, you be on Shapeful five.

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Speaker 5: You know, my brother answering it.

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Speaker 3: You guys who kids, tell me how you do it

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Speaker 3: the pizzol mask?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 3: How do you like when we're going to Italy, how

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Speaker 3: that's how do you do like you know, like good time.

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Speaker 2: The clean cup version is like I was involved with

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Speaker 1: So it's either you. Your fifty cent was always first.

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Speaker 2: Back then, we were and we had no we had

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Speaker 2: no you know, you know, it's like it goes up

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was number three, like Banks was number two,

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Speaker 2: I was give me that at that at that point,

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Speaker 2: yeah he was. He wasn't around like in the beginning

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Speaker 2: of the moisture days, you know.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, but it's like they always crazy. I never,

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Speaker 1: I never had issues women.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't care.

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Speaker 2: There's still a pause liquefying days. Yeah, yeah, that's another pour. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: it was it was always easy for me to get

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Speaker 1: So uh yeah, I've always had like women in the room.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why it was they called me Captain

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Speaker 2: saber Hole because I alwould make sure to get home.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm the guy that's like, why are you

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Speaker 1: doing this? You could do better? You're beautiful kid. Was

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Speaker 3: Like there's so many stories, good times and I feel like,

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Speaker 2: Tell people this story all the time. When I first

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Speaker 2: So I walked down there and it's funny because outside

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Speaker 5: You turn around and leave. I wanted to, but you know,

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Speaker 2: Who I never met these guys, you know, so can

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Speaker 1: No, I mean I didn't want to rob. I never

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Speaker 2: Banks had an attitude. He wasn't talking to nobody because

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Speaker 3: Hear because fifty situation kind of turned into our situation.

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Speaker 2: But that's why the infamous question when he said, I

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Speaker 1: Like I come at me with a UZZI like are

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Speaker 1: you good? And I told him out of here, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't tell me you could have jump in

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Speaker 2: I know how to move now, you know, which is

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Speaker 2: I think being truthful, I don't need to be gangster.

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Speaker 2: I came from like you know, DJing for CNN and

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Speaker 4: The first person that DJ foard because he just came around,

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Speaker 4: I don't think a lot of people see in them

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Speaker 4: that you was with Chris Lighty at that time.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I had to find my way.

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Speaker 2: You know, Chris Lighty was my mentor and Russell so

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Speaker 2: for me to get I'm queen, so I'm in Hollege

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Speaker 2: to Springfield. DJ Clue was a block away. It was

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Speaker 2: so much queens and and and you know, ship going

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Speaker 1: I learned from Clue. You know what I'm saying. So

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Speaker 4: I remember Yo re MEMBERY I had. I remember Pol's wedding,

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Speaker 5: It was like you were at the feature DJ.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, features DJ.

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Speaker 5: It was DJ A like he was like DJ and

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Speaker 5: move out of the way.

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Speaker 1: Was crazy play sexy Back.

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Speaker 5: I do think it was crazy sexy Back twenty times

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Speaker 3: So Paul comes up to me. He says, YAO, this

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Speaker 3: is you know who this guy is? He passed away

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Speaker 3: right and rest in peace. To p he was like

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Speaker 3: this DJ am He said, you know how much I'm

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Speaker 2: Bro?

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Speaker 1: And what you mean you wasn't happy with him?

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Speaker 5: Well, I had a great DJ that was supposed to

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Speaker 1: To tell Yo to get off the DJ.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I got the DJ in the world here.

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Speaker 1: What do you do? Got you the greatest DJs in

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Speaker 1: the world. I didn't realize it. You just having fun drinks.

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Speaker 5: He was playing sexy Back over and over and over again.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like it was a.

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Speaker 5: Big record at the time, don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 3: And I fell wild because I know DJ am Rest

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Speaker 3: in Peace wanted to slap me in my head.

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Speaker 4: So it was like this, I didn't even realize how

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Speaker 5: DJ was, like DJs, you know, I mean you got

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Speaker 5: to remember, like fifty was there, Dre was there, Jimmy

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Speaker 5: was there, the guys were there, like you know, all

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Speaker 6: Had to leave your wife and let Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 6: he was doing a little bit too wanted he wanted

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Speaker 6: smack people I had.

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Speaker 5: I had to shut him down, all right, got you

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Speaker 5: got in a very nice well.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, ship my bad.

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Speaker 4: I was just always over excited because I came out

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Speaker 4: of jail and I always.

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Speaker 5: Give Jimmy Ivan was there, he was like, is that

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Speaker 5: is that who?

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Speaker 1: Kids?

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Speaker 5: Was like, no, oh, I know, Tony, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'll swear to go out.

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Speaker 3: My wildless experience was eating and eating on top of

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Speaker 3: the Scope balcony and it was fifty, me and Jimmy

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Speaker 3: Ivien and it was it was.

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Speaker 4: I didn't say a thing. I just sat there just

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Speaker 4: always let the bullses talk.

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Speaker 1: What did you eat?

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Speaker 5: Though you're famous for your for yours, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, it's crazy.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what we ate, but it was Jimmy

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Speaker 4: Ivian so it was good food, some type of exacty.

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Speaker 1: It was all right, got you.

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Speaker 3: It was a funny moment because I remember Jimmy saying,

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Speaker 3: fifty we're back cool, I can put your plack back

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Speaker 3: on the wall.

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Speaker 1: I was just laugh.

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Speaker 4: I just I just sat there laugh because I just

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Speaker 4: watched the bosses be the bosses. That's why I appreciate

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Speaker 4: you guys taking time to come out here.

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Speaker 6: You know what I wanted to actually, how did the

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Speaker 6: whole process of the free Yal search went with eminem

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Speaker 6: That's all because this guy was legend w with that.

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Speaker 1: How did that whole process come over tho?

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Speaker 5: It became a slogan right that everybody was saying, and

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Speaker 5: you know, we all wanted to see him free like

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Speaker 5: it was genuine right. So when we did the it

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Speaker 5: was the Grammys, Marshall performed Lose Yourself with the Grammys

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Speaker 5: with the Roots and he wore the free AO shirt

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Speaker 5: that we had made up.

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Speaker 1: Definitely shout to trace Mark. What did that?

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Speaker 5: What was that like for you?

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Speaker 1: I mean you was in jail at that.

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 3: I was in C seventy three two while and that

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Speaker 3: was the most amazing thing in my life. Like it

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Speaker 3: because they could have forgot about me.

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Speaker 1: I was in jail.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's it's music business.

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Speaker 6: But to me it always felt like I probably wuld

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Speaker 6: got about you, but god, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I know, but it was like it always for me

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Speaker 3: when we came into business, it always felt like a family.

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Speaker 3: With with with Shady Aftermath who kid violated, always felt

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Speaker 3: like a family to me.

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Speaker 1: So when he wore that and I'm locked down, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, shout to Tracy, you know, did a whole bunch

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Speaker 3: of stuff for me though, Shady send me stuff, fifty

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Speaker 3: send me stuff.

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Speaker 1: So for me, I just I felt good.

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Speaker 3: And then I'm on Rikers so you know you got

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Speaker 3: to ask people, yo, can we use can I watched

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Speaker 3: this because you know they might want to fight a stab.

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Speaker 1: You over the TV. Prisoners react to that. It was good.

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Speaker 1: That was big.

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Speaker 3: That's when they wanted to kind of like put me

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Speaker 3: in PC on Rikers Island was getting shipped out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because people started to know, you know, but that

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Speaker 3: Shady called me, you know, and people from Shady called

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Speaker 3: me and it was like, yo, m one wear the shirt.

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Speaker 3: I was like, Wow, you're gonna do something special. The

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Speaker 3: didn't tell me what it was. And then the free

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Speaker 3: Aal shirt came about.

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Speaker 1: For that, I mean, did we say, oh man? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I gotta check on he got bootleg like crazy.

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Speaker 5: Who kid was probably selling more than anybody who.

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Speaker 1: Came on here with a bootleg eminem shirt on right

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Speaker 1: now and with Paul got crazy.

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Speaker 5: I promise you we did not make that.

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Speaker 1: This guy is crazy right here. It's a kinky d.

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Speaker 1: I thought I was coming in. I see Paul.

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Speaker 4: I was like, that's crazy to be that's crazy. What's

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Speaker 4: your favorite in the mixed tape?

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Speaker 1: I got a automatic gunfire. That's what we killed one

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Speaker 1: one day. Best that was in the studio, that was crazy.

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Speaker 2: The best jar skits were like and shout out. I

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Speaker 2: don't want to snitch him out, but he did all

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Speaker 2: the skits. He's like a big executive right now, isn't

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Speaker 2: that crazy?

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Speaker 1: A huge executive. I don't know who you're talking about

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Speaker 1: this the real report.

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Speaker 2: You got to talk on heim who did the skits?

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Speaker 1: You know did it?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: His name was Riggs. I don't know if this is

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Speaker 1: a real they you never do that.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well I heard which ones?

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Speaker 1: You got the Rigs was shout. We never we never

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Speaker 1: shot because because he was like in the labels, you know,

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Speaker 1: he was an R.

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Speaker 2: So it's like the easiest gotta beat up would be Riggs.

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Speaker 2: So we just I never released that information. It's too late.

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Speaker 5: Now he's like he did a bunch of skits. He

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Speaker 5: just kids with alchemists too. Yeah, let me ask you

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Speaker 5: a question when you came out, right, because I remember

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Speaker 5: the day you came out. First of all, you looked crazy,

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Speaker 5: Your eyes were wild. People were throwing jewelry on you,

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Speaker 5: stuffing money in your pockets, giving you fur coats and

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Speaker 5: ship like watch.

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Speaker 1: He should have got down with us. What did that

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Speaker 1: feel like?

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Speaker 5: I felt like.

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Speaker 3: You could never get a hot like that again. Because

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00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm in the shock program. At this point,

447
00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 3: we sounded with eminem like even the first fifty Son.

448
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 3: I remember being in THEO office and that's when Crystal

449
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 3: was like popping and it was on the phone and

450
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,200
Speaker 3: I think it was me, fifty Smurf, somebody else and

451
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 3: Banks maybe I think Banks was there too at that time,

452
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 3: but it was only a couple of of us, you know,

453
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 3: Theo's office, and was on the phone and he was

454
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 3: like yo, were about to do it, were about to

455
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 3: sign he signed Crystal Pop and like, I just remember everything.

456
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,159
Speaker 5: So for me And then how many days later were

457
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 5: you locked up?

458
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 3: Remember I was on the run for a good while

459
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 3: because I never wanted to go to jail. I was like, well,

460
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to jail. We signed with Eminem, you

461
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 3: know what I mean, doctor dre.

462
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 5: Shape within a few months, right.

463
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like yeah, probably within a few months.

464
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 1: Would you say it was been like a year. You

465
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:51,120
Speaker 1: got caught at uh the infamous with that Spanish because

466
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 1: you got to go, you got cook the band. And

467
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 1: when I came back to New York, that's when I

468
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: got caught up.

469
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 3: If I would have stayed out of New York, like

470
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,040
Speaker 3: been overseas with you guys and I didn't know, I

471
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 3: would have been good forever.

472
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 2: Well's is it safe to say that? Because he was

473
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 2: cool with being on the run. Is when he heard

474
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,679
Speaker 2: Eminem is gonna be in Barcelona, he.

475
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 1: Was like fuck that. He took his brother's passport. It

476
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 1: took the opportunity to hang out with him.

477
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 5: So it got you out, but it didn't get you back.

478
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy? That was crazy?

479
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,959
Speaker 3: Somebody from the office. I'm not gonna say, yeah, oh

480
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 3: my god, my first day getting out. They put the

481
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 3: passport in the paperwork, and I'm so excited you had

482
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,360
Speaker 3: the steakhouse for me night.

483
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 1: Wow.

484
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 4: I don't want to say no. The name, I don't

485
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 4: want to say. I don't want to say we just

486
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 4: made who get.

487
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,400
Speaker 1: Okay?

488
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 3: Okay, they put that, they put the passport and they

489
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 3: mistakenly mistake. Okay, I faced my brother's name. So it's

490
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 3: kind of idiot. Moved all right, gotch you you know

491
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,400
Speaker 3: what I mean. Passport was no good. So I'm so excited.

492
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 3: I'm not looking even in the paperwork. I'm just like,

493
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 3: fuck it, going to parole. Got much chain for music,

494
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 3: shit going feeling good, Thanks.

495
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 1: For going on.

496
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 3: Ain't no click albums are selling eminem out of here,

497
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 3: and mind you, we're selling hard copies. It's not that's

498
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 3: why it's about the mixtape for streaming, because we were

499
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 3: selling hard copies.

500
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 1: What'd you think about that? Poorly the mixtape, like the

501
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 1: hard copies versus streaming and all that.

502
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 5: And then well, I'll tell you what this you're streaming

503
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 5: saved the music industry because if you recall around twenty fifteen,

504
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 5: right when streaming was starting, people weren't buying albums, right,

505
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,479
Speaker 5: everybody was getting stuff for free and there was no streaming,

506
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 5: so there was no money pouring into the business at all. Right, Wow,

507
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 5: So all of a sudden streaming comes along. People start

508
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 5: getting used to the idea that they can pay ten

509
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 5: bucks a month or whatever it was to get everything

510
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 5: the whole hit story of recorded music right at their fingertips.

511
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 5: So it's really you're paying for the convenience of not

512
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 5: having to download music, put it into iTunes, make sure

513
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 5: it's labeled correctly, make your playlist like, you don't have

514
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 5: to do any of that. It's all right there, right,

515
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 5: So people were it turns out we're willing to pay

516
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 5: ten bucks a month for that convenience and for that service.

517
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 5: And you know, when before we had people buying CDs

518
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 5: maybe you know, every other month or you know, five

519
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 5: times a year.

520
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: Crack, you got to go bottom CD again if you

521
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 1: really like it.

522
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, but they weren't.

523
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 1: They weren't.

524
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 5: They weren't buying one every month necessarily. But now you know,

525
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 5: you have people locked in to pay that ten I

526
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 5: think now it's twelve, ninet nine whatever. It is a month, right, right,

527
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 5: and people kept adopting it. Streaming numbers went up and

528
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 5: up and up, the audience grew, and all of a sudden,

529
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 5: the industry is making money again, right, So it saved

530
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 5: the music industry. And you know, at the time, before streaming,

531
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 5: the music industry revenue had decreased to fifty percent of

532
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 5: what it was. Most industries don't survive that. You can't

533
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 5: survive a fifty percent decrease in revenue. But somehow, you know,

534
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 5: they held together and the major label stayed together and

535
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 5: they made it through. So it really saved things in

536
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 5: a lot of ways. And I know people complain about

537
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 5: what the arming rate paid. They get paid off, but

538
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 5: the same people complaining about that weren't really selling CDs either.

539
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: Fact. Oh, look at that. That's crazy. That's a hard

540
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 1: fact right there.

541
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 5: So of course the artists who are the biggest are

542
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 5: going to make the most money because they are listened

543
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 5: to the most. You know, is it entirely equitable? Could

544
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 5: it be better? Probably? But it's not terrible?

545
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: Got you.

546
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 2: I saw an interview the other day with a what's

547
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 2: the name from Black Eyed Peas.

548
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 5: I know, easy for me to say, right, but still was.

549
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: From Black Eyed Peas.

550
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 6: If you broke it down, I think people going to

551
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 6: find that you broke it down right this I think

552
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 6: I'm definitely like that.

553
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:06,479
Speaker 1: So will i Am.

554
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 2: The other day he was like, I think when he

555
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,239
Speaker 2: first met Jimmy, he was like, you know, maybe one

556
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 2: day you would be one of these artists. So he

557
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 2: compared eminem as the guy that keeps the building on.

558
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 2: But when you found fifty cent, was that like another

559
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: like jackpot?

560
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 5: It was it was lightning striking twice in the same place,

561
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 5: and that doesn't happen. But it happened. Lightning struck twice

562
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 5: in the same place. I mean, there was there was

563
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 5: a moment where I mean, I'll say it, fifty was

564
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 5: bigger than Marshall was. Wow, there was a moment that

565
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 5: that happened, and you know we were thrilled because you know,

566
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 5: fifty was was our artists, of course, but that kind

567
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 5: of success and that level of popularity and sort of

568
00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 5: worldwide notoriety doesn't happen twice in the same place.

569
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: You know, how did you and m hook up with Dre?

570
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: How did that connection?

571
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 5: Like first thought, Yeah, so Marshall was out in La

572
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 5: doing something called the Rap Olympics, and it was it

573
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 5: was a rap battle put together by Wendy Day from

574
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 5: the Rap Coalition, Okay, and this was in ninety seven,

575
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 5: I believe, and they were putting teams together and Wendy

576
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 5: had her her Rap Olympics team and they were going

577
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 5: to battle in you know, different teams, which is why

578
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 5: they called it the Olympics. But then there was also

579
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 5: an individual battle and Marshall entered the individual battle. He

580
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 5: got up all the way to the finals and he

581
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 5: lost to a dude from La named Otherwise and he

582
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 5: sort of was, you know, a hometown favorite and Marshall

583
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 5: choked a little bit. This is all really well documented.

584
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 5: So afterwards he was really depressed because the grand prize

585
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 5: the battle was like a Rolex and five hundred dollars,

586
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 5: which at.

587
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: The time that's crazy.

588
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 5: He was being evicted. He didn't he didn't have you know,

589
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 5: two Nichols to rub together and that would have, you know,

590
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 5: changed things for him. So he was he was upset.

591
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 5: He was at the bar. I was with him, and

592
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 5: these dudes came up and they were like, yo, do

593
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 5: you have any music? We really liked you know, what

594
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 5: you were doing up there, and so he had, you know,

595
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 5: a promo copy of the Slim Shady EP, and he

596
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 5: gave each one of them a copy, two different guys.

597
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 5: One of the guys his name is Dean Geislinger. He

598
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 5: worked in Jimmy's office, he was one of his assistants.

599
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 5: And then another guy worked in Tom Wally's office, and

600
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 5: his name was Evan Bogart. So I stayed in touch

601
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 5: with those guys that got their number. And as things

602
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 5: started to continue to develop and Marshall's buzz grew, we

603
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 5: put together a trip for him to come out to

604
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 5: LA to meet with labels. And I may have guessed

605
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 5: the story up a little bit right, and I said,

606
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 5: I said, yeah, you know, Marshall's going out. We're we're

607
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 5: about to close the deal with whoever sony. I can't

608
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 5: remember what I said. If you guys want to take

609
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 5: a meeting, you know it's going to be your last opportunity.

610
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 5: So Dean and Evan finally had the the courage to

611
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 5: bring Marshall's music to their bosses. And you know, Dean

612
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 5: brought it to Jimmy and he said, you know, there's

613
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 5: this kid. I've been checking him out and following him.

614
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 5: I really think you should. You should check it out.

615
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 5: They have a deal on the table, which we didn't,

616
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:30,719
Speaker 5: but good one.

617
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,959
Speaker 6: I ow man worked out, looking worked out, It worked out,

618
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 6: worked out.

619
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 5: So Jimmy brought the cassette with him home and he

620
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 5: used to listen to music in his gym when he

621
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 5: was working out. And Dre was over there one weekend

622
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 5: and he was going through, you know, his bag of

623
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 5: tapes and he saw Eminem's and he was like, who's

624
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 5: this And Jimmy said, oh, you know, it's this kid,

625
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 5: one of the guys.

626
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: Gave to me.

627
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 5: You should check it out. So Dre takes the tape home,

628
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 5: listens to it, realizes that he was famili with it

629
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 5: because he heard Marshall when he was in town doing

630
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 5: the rap Olympics rhyming on the wake up show.

631
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

632
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 5: Didn't know who he was, didn't know he was white,

633
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 5: but thought he was good. Heard the tape and he

634
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 5: was like, oh shit, this is the guy I heard

635
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 5: on the radio. So he went back to Jimmy and

636
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 5: he said, bring him out here.

637
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: I like that. Look at that, and that was it.

638
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Who can you remember going to Jimmy Alvien house.

639
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: That's how I got caught what because I was hiding.

640
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 5: I told part earlier like what he said that he

641
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 5: was running around hiding because we were all looking for

642
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 5: him because he was stealing everybody's music and releasing it early.

643
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 5: We were upset with how that's how his mixtapes, aside

644
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 5: from the fact that he had the exclusive fifty cent freestyles,

645
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 5: he would get music early and put him on these mixtapes.

646
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you know how I did it. I would wait.

647
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: It was really like Ocean's eleven, so I knew all

648
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: like right track and all the like you know, Chun King.

649
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: I knew all the king.

650
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: He brought it back the engineers, so all the engineers

651
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: will call me and be like, oh, jay Z got

652
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 2: a block from twelve to six. I know jay Z

653
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: ain't gonna be there all night. He'll probably leave at four.

654
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 2: So I'll get there like two AM, and I park

655
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 2: and see Memphis Leak everybody coming out of Beanie and

656
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 2: once they come.

657
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: Out, see yup, see yup, four hundred dollars. But what

658
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: they do is they record the whole session.

659
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: So even when jay Z's talking everything, do it over

660
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: fuck him, it records. So I just got to go

661
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: through you know the DAT that's old school too, don't matter.

662
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 2: N you gotta go get.

663
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 5: Walked out of the studio with a DAT for five

664
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 5: hundred dollars and you didn't know what was on it.

665
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: Yeah I would. I would take it and go through

666
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: the whole thing. There you go DJ's secrets.

667
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: Right Christ And then you know, there's there's so many

668
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 2: dats that I heard, real conversations.

669
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: If I leave those conversations, I wouldn't be alive today.

670
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: You still have those? Yeah, somewhere I have the old

671
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: old dads. We could definitely use some of those for

672
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: the real point. But we know everything. Course it's so good.

673
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: He got a nice check. Shout out to the value.

674
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,239
Speaker 5: He's the first DJ that I ever saw people ought

675
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 5: a Lamborghini off of mixtapes. You remember that he had

676
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 5: a yellow Lamborghini.

677
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: I used to put the tapes in the front.

678
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 5: And he sell mixtapes as his income and sold enough

679
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 5: mixtapes and made enough money off the mixtape game to

680
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 5: buy a lambing game.

681
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: Look at that.

682
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 5: That's crazy.

683
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: I never cared about the seven checks. I was like,

684
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: he wasn't really on there too long. Yeah, don't pay

685
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: him over there. He didn't kid.

686
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 2: That's why I was because you know, thank god he

687
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: heard me one day whiling out, I did crackhead Mondays

688
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: and then I had Bobby Brown call up, but he

689
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: didn't know it was crackhead Mondays. So Paul was dying

690
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 2: in the car and then he's like, this guy got it.

691
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 2: He got to be a host on the channel they

692
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 2: were about to buy. So that's how I got hired.

693
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 4: But you know how I did radio on the radio

694
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 4: was the best that was classic classic hip hop at

695
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 4: that point.

696
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: Believe it. When Clue left Hot, that's how I got

697
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: that Monday spot. I definitely remember that. But r ip

698
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: Chris Lidi.

699
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 2: The way I leaked, like any record, like if I

700
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 2: did a song with fifty, like the Big N fifty

701
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 2: or the two Pack fifty. The Big N fifty was

702
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 2: like the more like, you know, if I get caught,

703
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: they'll kill my ass. So what I did is when

704
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: Flex gets off, I waited. My show was ten to eleven, right,

705
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: so at ten fifty five I set it up where

706
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 2: I press played, but my brother had the car running downstairs,

707
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 2: and there's always like a secret elevator high night seven.

708
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 2: If you gotta get beat up, you take it, you know,

709
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 2: like or whoever's outside waiting and they beat up the DJ.

710
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: But I played the song There's a back Secret elevated

711
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 2: and skate out, So ten fifty five to eleven, I

712
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 2: play big in fifty realist Killers.

713
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: So I'm gone, I'm not. Yeah.

714
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: So you know Diddy whatever his name, puff whatever, he's

715
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: in the can you imagine your puff daddy? You never

716
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 2: heard a biggie verse like you.

717
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: I remember with that record. I remember that.

718
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 4: I'm was like, where did that record even come from?

719
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 4: That was crazy from never.

720
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: Even heard that biggie verse?

721
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 5: Where did you get it?

722
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: You told me that this this the same way from

723
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: that's from?

724
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 2: Just like so the thing is, I would just I

725
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 2: would steal the dats because you know, I think before that.

726
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: Record get clear, it got clear.

727
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 2: It was.

728
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 5: Before you said you were saying engineers. Then you just

729
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 5: said you stole them, which which is it?

730
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 2: So paying is when I go to the studio and

731
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: then I and then I and I paid to get

732
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: the recorded session. Stealing is I go? You thank god

733
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 2: you had shady records, so you have to really physically

734
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 2: be there.

735
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, we had that ship.

736
00:34:59,160 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was locked down.

737
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 5: He weren't allowed there anyway.

738
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: Shady Records was like, yeah, he wasn't allowed.

739
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 2: Oh bro, when I had to, it's like going to

740
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: the Vatican. I had to take off my phones, passport

741
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 2: everything because.

742
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: You had.

743
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 5: We called him listen, we called him Scooby Doo all right,

744
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 5: because every time you said something, he'd be like.

745
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: It is on a Russian website.

746
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 5: I got him from a Scooby Doo is not allowed

747
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 5: in the building.

748
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: Period from from music.

749
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 2: But but Shady Records, they they had a separate entity,

750
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 2: so I couldn't go in there. But Universal Sony Uh

751
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 2: Warner Brothers.

752
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: I just go up there. Who's up there? The Mexican

753
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: lady vacuum me. I looked. I know racism, but I

754
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,479
Speaker 1: look like a black an R. So I just walked.

755
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 3: I go to everybody room. I remember this murk. Back then,

756
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 3: it was a tight system. So you noticed like a

757
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 3: lot of Eminem fifty records, Doctor dre them things really.

758
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: Wasn't getting leaked like hell.

759
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 3: The hardest to get that was crazy because that's when

760
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 3: records were exclusive. I love streaming, but back then a

761
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 3: record was exclusive. You might have one DJ that has

762
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 3: this record. First he used to he gonna rocket for

763
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 3: what I learned that from Blue.

764
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: You know, so wait, you.

765
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 5: Would walk around the offices and go in people's offices

766
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 5: and steal thats so because nobody locked the offices.

767
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 2: So I looked like a black A and R. I

768
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: would dress like that. I would wear like a button up.

769
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 2: I looked like I went to church, but I looked

770
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: like those cornyer rs they had up there. And I

771
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 2: just walk around and then the Mexican lady vacuum and

772
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: she looks at me and Poppy mimmy whatever. And I'd

773
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: be like, and then I just go and I'm there

774
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 2: all night. I'll turn the light on and then all

775
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 2: you know, how you have the dat's packed up. All

776
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 2: I got to do is see oh Beyonce featuring Q Tip.

777
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: I'll just take that.

778
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 2: Anything has a feature. But back then R and B

779
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: ran the world, like hip hop needed R and B

780
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 2: to live, like jay Z and all them. They had

781
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: to like ride off of R and B. You know,

782
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 2: until we came and changed the whole algorithm where hip

783
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: hop is here to stay.

784
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: But back then everything was R and B.

785
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: So if you go to Sony, I would just wait

786
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 2: to see feature in j That's how I got the

787
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: shot day in jay Z's on so I'll see jay

788
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 2: Z shot.

789
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 1: They take that so out of courtesy. Out of courtesy,

790
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: I would record it was out here stealing these records.

791
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 5: But sometimes I'll just take lock your offices.

792
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: That lock your office. Yea, this is it right here.

793
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: You just hold it, wait four or five months. And

794
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: I just did that with Dre. Dre go take a leak.

795
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: I'm like hurrying out trying to get this song from Dre,

796
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 2: and I just leave it. Like a year later, I

797
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: saw Dre at Super Bowl. He's like, Yo, the fucking guy.

798
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: J I tried to Yo, this is a true story.

799
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: Shout the Curtis Curtis saved my life in Super Bowl.

800
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 2: I tried to you know, when jay Z was coming.

801
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: Through, they have a what you call Bloe Curtis battle

802
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: Big Curtis. Yeah, Big Curtis. You know he's the production

803
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 1: for super Bowl. Somebody's trying to get Curtis.

804
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: No.

805
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: So when jay Z comes through that somebody with a

806
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: blowhorn be like Jayson coming through, like.

807
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 2: You know, so they clear the you know, the the area.

808
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 2: You know where we were at with the you know,

809
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 2: all of us had our own like cubicle.

810
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. So when Jay walks through, they just scream it.

811
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: So he just walks through.

812
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,959
Speaker 2: So it was too far to get to M's joint

813
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 2: or fifties room, so I would jay Z would have

814
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 2: seen me. So I tried to like hide behind Curtis

815
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: because Curtis is like twenty feet tall.

816
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So I'm hiding by Curtis.

817
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 2: And Anderson Pack was like, you are right. I was like, bro,

818
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: just give it like five bays. Once he passed by it,

819
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 2: then I'll just was I at the M and M's room,

820
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 2: Nobody's gonna touch me.

821
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: You know, I'm good.

822
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: If I go to fifty room, nobody's definitely not gonna

823
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 2: touch me because you know the issues with him and Jay.

824
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 2: So all I hear I turned around and I heard yo,

825
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: that's who kid over there hiding behind Curtis. And then

826
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 2: jay Z's like yo, ma. I was like what, so

827
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 2: Dre's coming at the same time. That's why I got

828
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 2: it on video. And then you can see like, oh

829
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 2: he robbed you too.

830
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: Oh here's Drake. Oh he robbed you too. J Ya.

831
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: I was like, this is get it out of head.

832
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: That was on jay Z fifty two Super Super Bowl.

833
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, Kendrick and Marshall, this guy and Mary J.

834
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: Blige. First of all, thank you because you know, thanks

835
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: to this guy, I'm reading anybody podcast. Gotcha?

836
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 5: Okay, So imagine lighted the Thief. We know better now, okay,

837
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 5: ship laying around?

838
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: All right? Got you? Okay, all right? Got you? Got

839
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: you know what imagine during COVID and you're I'm good.

840
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: Now you could put Eminem's on right here.

841
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 5: I'm like, I learned because you know he'll get fired.

842
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: I stole enough that I came up. I'm good. I

843
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: don't need to do it though. Boy.

844
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 5: Plus, the game is different, right, the game is different.

845
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 5: Spe Civity doesn't exist once records out there, it's everywhere everywhere.

846
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 5: Back then, it was on your mixtape. You were the

847
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 5: only it was the only place.

848
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: Because you get to talk over it. Certain things, your

849
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: d you say, little things.

850
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 5: Can take it. But by the time they put their

851
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 5: mixtape together and they got that there, like everybody's already

852
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 5: brought who kids and it was the only place.

853
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: To get it.

854
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 2: And I was like, if I stole Uncle Murders like

855
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 2: some song he did like months ago, I won't tell

856
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 2: Uncle Murder what I'll do I'll put it out and

857
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: if he has the title, I'll change the title. So

858
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: I'll even trick the public. So I'll call it like

859
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 2: kill a Nigga remix Uncle Murder, like.

860
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: A different name. That's my DJ. Clue is like you know,

861
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: Clue is everything.

862
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 2: Man. Back then, if you oh, we got Clue, we

863
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 2: don't need your tape, We're good. I had to find

864
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,439
Speaker 2: a way to fucking bypass him, like I got.

865
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: Some ship, Clue don't got.

866
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like Clue stopped the because

867
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 3: it was all about mixtape, like the blends, like you

868
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 3: had Grandma, yeah, dog time, and then when you came

869
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 3: to Clue, he was just it was it changed into exclusives,

870
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 3: just playing the exclusive record on this.

871
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 2: I mean he leaked Biggie, he leaked one more chance,

872
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 2: biggiess biggest record. One verse in the hook is all

873
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 2: a DJ would need. Biggie went on high Night, So

874
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: it was like, who is this guy? I'm ready to

875
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 2: kill him right now.

876
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: That's so that made it's like adrenaline rush. I want

877
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: him to try to kill me. Like because back then,

878
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: like I said, popping's no social media.

879
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 2: So imagine you're like a street legend with a rumor

880
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 2: like that, like Biggie's looking for you. Everybody's talking about

881
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 2: that with no YouTube nothing, So that makes you like

882
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: you're in the system.

883
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: That's why there's only like five top DJs.

884
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 2: You can say like you can say me, you can

885
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 2: say like Envy, you can say like you know Drama,

886
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 2: you can say like case le RP the Dead, like

887
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 2: we're part of that system.

888
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: The fact that in the DNA of everybody that's.

889
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 4: Hip hopped out because before that it was Grand Master Vig,

890
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 4: you had dog Chime.

891
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: Everybody was more doing blends, you know what I'm saying.

892
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 1: And then Clue was already Harry, Yeah, he was the

893
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: first dude to play this.

894
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 3: Yep, he was the first dude to start kind of

895
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 3: playing exclusive because I was a fan of wrong G.

896
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: Classic you know hip hop.

897
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 2: I mean Kickapri did the first, like did the Bad

898
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: Boys stuff back in the days, and then that's why

899
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 2: it made me like get into it. But Clue was

900
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 2: my clue, lift blocks away from me, so I had.

901
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 5: To get it all you queens, guys, jeans baby broke.

902
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 5: Let me ask you this though, because now the DJ

903
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 5: is like all the names you're talking about you're all

904
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 5: as a kid say, you're all unks now? Oh yeah,

905
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 5: And I love that term, by the way, it's so

906
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 5: much better than being old. But it's respectful, right of course. Anyway,

907
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 5: I digress. So, all these all these older DJs, where

908
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 5: are the new ones? Where's the new kids? Because like

909
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 5: when we have Shade forty five and we're looking at like, okay,

910
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 5: we got some space, we want to hire somebody new.

911
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 5: There's no new who kids, right, there's no new kids

912
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 5: doing that to get But you know, but at a

913
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 5: point you started popping, you know, twenty years ago, right

914
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 5: when you were when you were much younger. Where is

915
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 5: the young guys that are popping now?

916
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: Is it?

917
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 5: Is it even fees the ball or is it a

918
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 5: desirable thing for them to want to be a DJ?

919
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: It's so easy, gay, but it's so easy to get

920
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: the music. It's hard.

921
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like now there's a lot of good

922
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 3: music out there, but it feels like it's microwave music.

923
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: So it's like that's true, like.

924
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 3: When you look at eminem, you look at Snoop Dogg,

925
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 3: you look at Dre. To me, it's timeless music. So

926
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 3: if we go to Apple, you're gonna see eminem is

927
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 3: still Spotify, he's still number one, still fifties, number one

928
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: on YouTube. To me, it's timeless music, I think, well

929
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 3: who Kid did is timeless, like the mixtapes we did.

930
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 3: I remember like it's started from the first one to

931
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 3: the second one and everywhere we went to when we

932
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 3: go to Jamaica Avenue, the Coliseum block recipes to the

933
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 3: Colesee inbox two with we go to Hot Wax, Me

934
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 3: and Banks was like, stars are ready, everybody you know

935
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 3: who Kid was a star already? Like I was happy

936
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 3: with just that in the beginning because it was big

937
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 3: what he did in the streets. So for me, I

938
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 3: don't think too many DJs could just replicate that time

939
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 3: and do that case.

940
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 5: So the time is different and it's more probably more

941
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,439
Speaker 5: lucrative for guys with personalities and that kind of drive

942
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 5: to do other things right right, And those are probably

943
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 5: the YouTubers and the social media guys, right, those are

944
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 5: the big Like a guy like Drew Ski he could

945
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 5: probably be.

946
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: A of course because of the personality and all the

947
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: things he do.

948
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 5: Right, Tysonatt all those guys probably where that kind of

949
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 5: talent goes these days.

950
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: But these guys ain't trying to find a fifty cent.

951
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 2: They're not trying to find an artist like I was.

952
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 2: I had planning.

953
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: BCD E like I hang always snoop but hung out. Yeah,

954
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: like that ship don't work. I'm gonna steal these guys records. Yeah,

955
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 1: I had legendary clicks. Maybe I'm lucky, maybe I'm an unicorn.

956
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, you have Samuel Jackson, like Chris

957
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: Rock and like.

958
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 2: But that's how I upgraded, because if I'm up against Clue,

959
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, I'm just gonna get

960
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 2: the actors.

961
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 1: I'm going to get like because nobody's asking them. I

962
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: started with the label execs like Leo Cohen, come on you,

963
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: Lebron James On. Everybody's like, that's what made it big,

964
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: and everybody.

965
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 3: Samuel Jackson, this guy had Malford Stewart. Everybody came to

966
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 3: shape eminem and what he built, and the empire built

967
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 3: was so big that people were willing to come.

968
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: They gravitating them. They just want to be near.

969
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 3: We took in sixteen million records worldwide, hard copies. That's

970
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 3: when you had to go in the store f Ye

971
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 3: best Buy.

972
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 4: You know, and really by the you have to play

973
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 4: for you pay for your promo picking it.

974
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 3: I learned everything from from being around in his cope

975
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 3: Shady after Math.

976
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: Violent you know what I saw the other day Tony

977
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: Hawk hosted the tape. I forgot about that. See that's

978
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Tony Hawk, I forgot you look at that.

979
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 4: Look at that it was like and it turned into

980
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 4: a worldwide thing.

981
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 3: And I always say and fifty always says it because

982
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 3: you know, like that was the best deal we ever

983
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 3: signed in our lives.

984
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 2: Bro because the science, the science behind getting a celebrity

985
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 2: like that is especially Austreet was the hub to buy

986
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 2: mixtapes back then. If you're coming from Paris or you're

987
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 2: coming from Germany or whatever. If you go to the

988
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 2: Canal Street and you know, you see tons of tapes

989
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 2: ron g see everybody.

990
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: But if you see who Kid hosted by Robert de Niro, like,

991
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: what the hell is this?

992
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 2: Because I would steal the same song's clue had I

993
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 2: had to have like a different edge, Like if you

994
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 2: hear Robert de Niro on it talk about fuck that shit,

995
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 2: let's go to drop that day like that, like you know,

996
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: so that makes it like kind of like a souvenir

997
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: to keep you know, you you see how Eminem loves

998
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 2: cassette tapes, like that's how it was back then. There's

999
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 2: no nobody has anything tangible anymore, Like I need to

1000
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,240
Speaker 2: remember this time, this moment, and when you see that tape,

1001
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 2: it just brings you back to that.

1002
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: Kids don't have that now, yeah, but they look back

1003
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 1: at them.

1004
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 5: They want it, which is a big part of the

1005
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 5: reason for the resurgence of vinyl, exactly because kids they

1006
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 5: buy vinyl because they want to own something from the artist.

1007
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 5: I read a statistic I don't know the exact number,

1008
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 5: but a large number of the vinyl bought it a

1009
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,919
Speaker 5: place like Urban Outfitters that has you know, a whole

1010
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 5: vinyl selection. The kids don't have record players mmmmmm. They

1011
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 5: sell more record frames then they do record players because

1012
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 5: they hang them on their walls. So they just want

1013
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 5: something from the artists. They want something tangible because otherwise

1014
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 5: they don't have it, like you know, all the stuff

1015
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 5: on their phone is fleeting. They want something permanent that

1016
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 5: they can hold that connects them to the artist.

1017
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: That's why our age demographic respects hip hop more. Because

1018
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: the kids are getting so fast. They can't remember what

1019
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 2: it was last year's hit, but when we get it.

1020
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: We waited online at Tower Records. We've got the autograph

1021
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: from we bought the poster like I had.

1022
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: I was talking to what's the name Ice Teeth that

1023
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 2: day I had like his first baby mad you know

1024
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 2: with the gun, with the shotgun. That's a classic power.

1025
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,959
Speaker 2: That's a classic poster. Like there's no more, there's nothing

1026
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,439
Speaker 2: to be like. You know, you come home from high

1027
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 2: school and you see like people you look up to,

1028
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 2: they don't do that no more.

1029
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 1: Ren DMC is the reason why I wore Adidas, Like

1030
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: that's right, who's doing that?

1031
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 2: Besides, like you know certain artists now people follow their

1032
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 2: their fashion sense, but it's more like I'm not gonna

1033
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 2: diss it so bad. It's got like a dick riding

1034
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 2: thing because of social media. Yeah, they just ride whatever.

1035
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 2: The way back then it was it was very cultural.

1036
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 2: The fashion was life, like hip hop was life. People

1037
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 2: did that to get out the hood, like to survive,

1038
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 2: so they respected the music more.

1039
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: It was everything, like even getting in the clubs back then,

1040
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: the tunnel Underground, like the classic rappers from back then.

1041
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 5: Like remember the tunnel search when you got oh my god.

1042
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 5: It was like I've never been to prison. Thank god

1043
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 5: it was. It was like more serious than that. Take

1044
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 5: your boots off, open up your mouth.

1045
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: Couldn't people people getting killed in it? No chain they

1046
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 1: have no chain rule.

1047
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 2: After a couple of years, Wow, remember it was crazyputigation

1048
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 2: told me like almost like times the mouth. They they'll

1049
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 2: find like somebody that you know, because back then they

1050
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 2: stab people. So you stat the club is so big,

1051
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 2: you have to wait till.

1052
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 1: The nine is over. Then you see like a random

1053
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: dead body. Like it's crazy back then, but you don't

1054
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: wear coats.

1055
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 2: That's why they stopped letting people wear like, you know,

1056
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 2: shirlings and fucking what do you call V neck gooses

1057
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 2: because people were stabbing and robbin those gooses. Remember that

1058
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 2: the V the V goose what you know, triple is

1059
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 2: like it's like the it's like the color, but the

1060
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 2: the V would be like white.

1061
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 1: It'd be like a V.

1062
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 2: The V.

1063
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 5: Like a varsity jack, like a varsity.

1064
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: That like the V.

1065
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 2: That's why they called you're talking about And I remember

1066
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 2: that I saved all my money. I tricked my father,

1067
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 2: acting like I had like all these road trips and

1068
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 2: school trips and then they were fake, like I would

1069
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 2: make fake foods.

1070
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,479
Speaker 1: Just to buy the coat, and then I'm getting chased

1071
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: by Steve Stout. This is back in the day.

1072
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 2: Steve Stout was like a bully, so he would chase

1073
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 2: us little kids all over Queens and they're trying to

1074
00:49:58,440 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 2: get on v Nex.

1075
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: What him? And uh, you know it was crazy. That

1076
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: was a bully, yo, It's crazy. That's crazy. We survived.

1077
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 7: Good luck surviving the offseason football fans.

1078
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 5: At first, I was afraid.

1079
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: I was petrified footballs over. It's like a part of

1080
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: me just died inside two hundred bees to boot Bowls back.

1081
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 2: But tonight I won't just cry because I've got.

1082
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: A ways to play. And that's the placement hard rock

1083
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 1: bed we survived.

1084
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 2: Offered by the Seminal try Befloor that must be twenty

1085
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 2: one plus and physically president in Florida to wait your

1086
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 2: terms of conditional plot.

1087
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 1: If you are someone you know as a family problem,

1088
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: please call one eight three three play wise