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<v Speaker 1>This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at

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<v Speaker 1>production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith Senior and I'm John and this is cut

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<v Speaker 1>to It. Good Do, good do. Let's getting down to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Good do it. We asked the questions you

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<v Speaker 1>always want to know, but no one ever asked, let's

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<v Speaker 1>cut to it. You ain't heard about it? Then we're

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<v Speaker 1>about to let you know. It's all class. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>you're shot in the chair and fold of Jones, random

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<v Speaker 1>precioal banner right now. It was Hey, what's up? Another

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<v Speaker 1>episode of cut to It podcast? Super excited? All right,

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<v Speaker 1>new accent? What's going on? What's on your mind? What

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<v Speaker 1>is what's on your mental? My mental had a had

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<v Speaker 1>a great weekend. Would you like to know what I did?

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<v Speaker 1>What did you do? Nothing? I literally did nothing. Those

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<v Speaker 1>are the best ones. I didn't do anything. Woke up

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday. It was like, that's always a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You wake up that. Hey, yeah, let's be real. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you if you don't wake up, do you

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<v Speaker 1>technically complain? I don't know. I never experienced that. Just

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<v Speaker 1>so woke up on Monday. My son Boston is U

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<v Speaker 1>starting to drive? So he's driving us to school. So

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing a really good job. Permit. Yeah, he gotta.

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<v Speaker 1>He got his permit legal and he has to get

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<v Speaker 1>so many hours. Um. I have not allowed him to

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<v Speaker 1>drive at night. I'm not there yet. Um he drove. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he drove in the rain the other day and did

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good. Now I kind of nudged him like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>slow down, as I said, hey, slow down a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit raining. That's what I said in my mind. If

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<v Speaker 1>someone had a heart rate mind on there that day

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<v Speaker 1>it was like three hundreds. I was scared. Scared, but

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<v Speaker 1>and just kind of sitting around and I was thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about something, and so I read something in a in

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible app and it had three things right, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was really interesting because it's called understanding your limitations.

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<v Speaker 1>He gave us three things then. The first one was

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledging your limitations, okay, laying down your expectations. And the

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<v Speaker 1>final one three is picking up God's declarations and really

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<v Speaker 1>and and the last one that says, spend at least

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes pouring over God's promise. Imagine putting them on

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<v Speaker 1>like clothing, asking God to show you which one he

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<v Speaker 1>which one he wants you to focus on that day.

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<v Speaker 1>Some days it seems like God has a lot to say,

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<v Speaker 1>and other days it makes you feel like God is quiet.

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<v Speaker 1>Both are normal, natural things in a in a healthy relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I thought that was interesting is I'll kind

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<v Speaker 1>of divulge in my own I I'm a believer, I

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<v Speaker 1>love the Lord. I struggle with my heavenly father because

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<v Speaker 1>I struggle with my earthly father. And what do I

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<v Speaker 1>do with that? How do I manage those expectations or

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<v Speaker 1>manage the lack of follow up or follow through or

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<v Speaker 1>me guarding my heart because of what has transpired, what's happened.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not anything to put down on my dad.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just really more of saying that Steve Smith singing,

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<v Speaker 1>fourty one years old, four kids, wonderful wife. UH have

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<v Speaker 1>a great team that's worked that I get to work

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<v Speaker 1>with on the podcast, and yet still struggle sometimes, still

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out how what went and where and

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<v Speaker 1>laying down, you know, laying down those things and just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out things. So it's it's it's been

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<v Speaker 1>really cool and it's been really difficult. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes just kind of putting myself out there and saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm struggling the day. Yeah, you know, am I by myself? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I think too often times we think that success is

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<v Speaker 1>void of struggle. Is pretty much they end the twine together, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So you can't you can't have success without struggle, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can't struggle without some success. Right there, they're to me,

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<v Speaker 1>they're one and the same. Too many people think they're

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<v Speaker 1>polar opposite, and they're and and they're not. Out of

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<v Speaker 1>those three examples, which one do you which one I

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<v Speaker 1>guess caught your eye more or which one do you

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<v Speaker 1>gravitate towards? Or which ones do you see or or

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<v Speaker 1>or are more pertinent one stands on the day. I

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<v Speaker 1>could tell you one that I always struggle with, and

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<v Speaker 1>I could substitute picking up God's declaration, I could substitute

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<v Speaker 1>I can remove and says and taking a compliment. I

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<v Speaker 1>have been so ingrained and so programmed to the fighter's mentality,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, fight or flight. I'm a fighter. I ain't flighting,

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<v Speaker 1>but not hearing and accepting compliments. I've so much thrived

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<v Speaker 1>on negativity and in in my back against the wall

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't really appreciate sometimes the easy path, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not even an easy path. Sometimes for me it's easy, meaning, man,

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<v Speaker 1>just take the compliment. It's like, no, they don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>in me, so so what does that do to you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of those things where I have strived for.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to have so much perfection that I think

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<v Speaker 1>accepting excellence is a downgrade. But I've had to settle in.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't try to be perfect, riv in the excellence. Just

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<v Speaker 1>be okay with extra for excellence. And but for me

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<v Speaker 1>and my my mind, I'm like, oh, I'm settling, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not settling. I'm just so jacked up in the

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<v Speaker 1>head that I think and try to be so perfect

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<v Speaker 1>that I can't pick up God's decoration, Like I can't go, Man,

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<v Speaker 1>God loves me today, or my family loves me today,

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<v Speaker 1>or somebody thought this was good, and so I'm going,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm too busy trying to fight it. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>stop and take the compliment. Or you also can't self

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<v Speaker 1>late yourself. You can't say, well, even just saying I'm

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<v Speaker 1>jacked up in the head, you're not jacked up in

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<v Speaker 1>the head. We all have our faults and we all

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<v Speaker 1>have things that we need to work on. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>even even in that right there. You can't you can't

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<v Speaker 1>lock yourself in kind of that that that mental prison

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<v Speaker 1>almost sometimes I've been living in a mental prison for

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight thirty nine years. I have yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's one of the things that I loved. I love

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<v Speaker 1>going to Angola once a year, and Gola is a prison.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been around so many men who have no

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity of freedom on the outside, but yeah, I have

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<v Speaker 1>so much freedom mentally and in their heart. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really recognize freedom until I went to Angola. And now

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<v Speaker 1>for me going to Angola three years ago, three four

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, for me going that prison today, that's like

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<v Speaker 1>a vacation. It's like a resort to me, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>just remarkable that see these men who have made mistakes,

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<v Speaker 1>who can never get them back, but yet they're walking

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<v Speaker 1>so much freedom. Twenty five plus years they've been serving

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<v Speaker 1>most of them have most of them are doing life

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<v Speaker 1>because murder or whatever whatever, they armed robbery And they

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<v Speaker 1>walk in there and I go see them, bro, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, what else, Smitha, how you doing? And I

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<v Speaker 1>see them, man, they got a bigger smile on their

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<v Speaker 1>face to see me. When I first got there the

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<v Speaker 1>second year than I ever have, and now it's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's something I look forward to with something that I need.

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<v Speaker 1>And we didn't get a chance to go this year

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<v Speaker 1>because in COVID. But one thing that I think is

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<v Speaker 1>really cool, and it's a testament to you, is you

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<v Speaker 1>got a group of guys, all all your close friends, associates,

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff, and we lead the phones at the

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<v Speaker 1>house and yeah we ain't this ain't this ain't something

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about and show, Hey, look at us, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the checking it off on the good wheel box. We're

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<v Speaker 1>just going. Man, it's it, bro. I look forward to it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I tell you it is a It is like

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<v Speaker 1>a men's retreat resort for me. You leave with more

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<v Speaker 1>than what you went with. Is not a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people here quote unquote ministry trips and they think, oh

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go help us people. You end up going

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<v Speaker 1>and you learn way more about yourself than you think

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<v Speaker 1>you did anything else. Yeah, I love it, man. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's something that been on my mind. Man. And

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<v Speaker 1>as as we continue to do these we're gonna do,

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<v Speaker 1>I think for me, it's more one more doing these opportunities, man,

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<v Speaker 1>checking in That's it. I was. I was just about

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<v Speaker 1>to say that we gotta check in and we have

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<v Speaker 1>some real funny banters like we can have we canna

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<v Speaker 1>have jokes. We can joke about sunny d and and

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<v Speaker 1>gators and backstage Joe turning up Jay's too tight. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's also really important that we just have

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<v Speaker 1>these real conversations because it's almost on people's minds. All

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<v Speaker 1>these things have been compounded by the pandemic, and so

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<v Speaker 1>you just have to take that time to just check

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<v Speaker 1>in and and and have serious conversations about you know what, man,

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<v Speaker 1>this helped me? Or you check me. I'll check you

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<v Speaker 1>this beautiful thing. You're gonna check me. We both check

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<v Speaker 1>each other. I don't know about your checking on about it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna do that. Hey, who do we have coming

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<v Speaker 1>up next? Coming up on the Cut to It podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>We've got Brian Mitchell, one of the best return men

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<v Speaker 1>in NFL history. A veteran with Washington, the New York Giants,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Philadelphia Eagles, Brian won a Super Bowl and

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<v Speaker 1>he works currently as a TV and radio broadcaster. Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Mitchell on the Cut to A Podcast. Hey, Brian, we

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you joining the Cut to A Podcast. No problem. Now. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>So our first segment that we have coming up is

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<v Speaker 1>an icebreaker. It's called get iceed Up. The random questions

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<v Speaker 1>may or may not have a follow up. I'm telling

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<v Speaker 1>you they completely random. I don't even know what this

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<v Speaker 1>dude has up is to leave, so Smith to go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and welcome Brian Mitchell to the to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Be what's going on? I like to say one those

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<v Speaker 1>d s, one those no chests when star forgetting What's up? Man?

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<v Speaker 1>How you doing? Alright? You ready? I'm ready baby, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>buckle up, Buttercup, here we go. Let's go. What is

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite hobby? Actually, my favorite hobby is playing golf.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I would say that that was my favorite hobby.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have to say riding bikes. Now, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>riding bikes since April and I've gotten completely hooked on that,

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<v Speaker 1>so golf has taken the back sleek. Okay, So so

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<v Speaker 1>you do you got the biker shorts with the paddy Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I do because it but was hurting when I was

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<v Speaker 1>riding without the pass, so I had to go to that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've done over two thousand miles since April, so humble,

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<v Speaker 1>just two thousand I'm trying to get some I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get some money on the on the bik and wave.

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<v Speaker 1>He won't do it. I told him the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been doing the same thing. I've been taking up

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<v Speaker 1>biking since probably about uh, same thing. You won't do it, though,

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<v Speaker 1>you you're on the runningway, which is cool. When you

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<v Speaker 1>first went biking, Uh, did you have a real bike?

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<v Speaker 1>Was the beach Cruiser? Was a BMX with I'm always well.

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<v Speaker 1>I bought a bike in two thousand and fourteen, Lorenzo Alexander,

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<v Speaker 1>He uh had a Yeah, Zoe had a charity bike ride.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went out and purchased this bike and I

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<v Speaker 1>rode it in and I didn't ride it again until

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<v Speaker 1>this year. So when I got on it, I started

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<v Speaker 1>riding and found out a few of my ex teammates

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<v Speaker 1>were riding, and and we got into this little crew.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've met a lot of people riding over in

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<v Speaker 1>Maryland and every weekend, I definitely do it, but I

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<v Speaker 1>do it at least four days during the week to Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty cool. That movie. All right, So here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Last book you didn't finish reading, and why I was

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<v Speaker 1>reading all that? I started reading all these motivational books

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<v Speaker 1>and John C. Maxwell it's a book called No Beyond Talent.

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<v Speaker 1>It's what it's called. And uh, I just didn't finish

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<v Speaker 1>reading it, got into some other stuff and left it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I gotta get back to it because it talks

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<v Speaker 1>more like, you know, those people that have talent, they

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<v Speaker 1>depend totally on that, and it tries to get you

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<v Speaker 1>to go beyond that to where it's like you get

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<v Speaker 1>to the league, you find out everybody has talent, but

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<v Speaker 1>everybody doesn't work and try to work on that talent.

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<v Speaker 1>So some people are successful, some people aren't. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a book. But I will finish it soon, I'm sure. Alright.

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<v Speaker 1>So last one, if you can teleport anywhere tomorrow tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>more you hit that teleport button, where do you go?

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<v Speaker 1>And why I'm going to Hawaii hanging out in Maui

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<v Speaker 1>because it's just when I'm there, so Tranquild my favorite place. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that was that. That wasn't too bad? That was cool. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the ice break. Now here comes the big test.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you from and the place that you call

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<v Speaker 1>what is the place you call your hometown? My hometown

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<v Speaker 1>is Plaqueham in Louisiana. It's a little small town outside

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<v Speaker 1>of bad Rouge. When you were growing up there with experiences,

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<v Speaker 1>did you uh experience? Well, I would be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 1>this is uh the times we're dealing with now, with

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<v Speaker 1>all this racial stuff is something that I did grow

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<v Speaker 1>up with in my hometown. But my dad taught me

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<v Speaker 1>how to be strong in it and overcome different things

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<v Speaker 1>and not let things bother me, but the focus on

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<v Speaker 1>the things I can control. Um, you know, I was

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<v Speaker 1>a quarterback at my school. My school is predominantly white,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was the starting quarterback. As I went to

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<v Speaker 1>my college and did the same thing. But my dad,

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<v Speaker 1>being a military guy, taught me about hard work, believing

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<v Speaker 1>in yourself and making sure you take care of your

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<v Speaker 1>education and good things to follow you, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>not I wasn't one that was gonna back down for

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<v Speaker 1>many people, so you know, when you grew up with

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<v Speaker 1>the military father, And like I told I was telling

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<v Speaker 1>Joe's story. We're probably getting to this later on. But

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<v Speaker 1>my dad five for eight by a hundred and seventy pounds,

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<v Speaker 1>boxed in the military for fifteen years, so he basically

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<v Speaker 1>transferred all of that that he had in him into me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm one of seven kids, and I basically was exactly

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<v Speaker 1>like my dad. So I had enough inside my head

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<v Speaker 1>and nothing in my heart that I wasn't gonna back down.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna go out and try to fight and

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<v Speaker 1>deal with anything I had to deal with. So how

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<v Speaker 1>did growing up your hometown impact and shape how you

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<v Speaker 1>see the world today. Well, it showed me that everybody

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<v Speaker 1>is not exactly the same way, you know, because along

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<v Speaker 1>my life, I've seen black people that I did not

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<v Speaker 1>like being around, and seeing white people that I love

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<v Speaker 1>be and vice versa, you know what I mean, both

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<v Speaker 1>of those sides, and I think it comes down to

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<v Speaker 1>the heart of a person. And it taught me that

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<v Speaker 1>because there were people and families in that town that

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<v Speaker 1>did things for me, that it was not the ordinary

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<v Speaker 1>way of a lot of folks in my town. And

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<v Speaker 1>then on the other side, you know, there were people

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<v Speaker 1>in the neighborhoods that I always hung out in that

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<v Speaker 1>you have to always watch everything because they were trying

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<v Speaker 1>to take what you had. So as I began to

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<v Speaker 1>be a young man and become an older man, become

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<v Speaker 1>a more seasoned man, I understand that you judge people

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<v Speaker 1>based on who they are and what they what they

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<v Speaker 1>show you, not based off of what somebody else told

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<v Speaker 1>you about them, not based on what you thought think

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<v Speaker 1>about somebody else. But I don't try to sit up

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<v Speaker 1>there and say, well this person is this because of that. No,

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<v Speaker 1>let me see who he is to me, because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know the experiences that they may have had with

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else, Because a lot of times the experience make

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<v Speaker 1>you deal with a person in a certain way. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if a guy treated, you know, somebody when

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<v Speaker 1>I was in school in college as that man, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like that dude, why you don't like him? They

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<v Speaker 1>never tell you why they don't like somebody because and

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<v Speaker 1>so it's something that they did wrong and the other

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<v Speaker 1>person didn't do anything wrong and the person just checked

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<v Speaker 1>them on it. So by becoming a person who pays

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<v Speaker 1>attention to things around, pays attention to my surroundings, it's

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<v Speaker 1>taught me to become a better judge of character from

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<v Speaker 1>our people. Mm hmm. Did you expect me to be

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<v Speaker 1>asking you all this like this? Be honest? I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>totally honest with yes, because you know, look I told

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<v Speaker 1>you before I was a fan of yours man, and

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<v Speaker 1>the reason I say that is because you know, people

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<v Speaker 1>just judge it by the way that you play the game.

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<v Speaker 1>I judge by the way they played your game. But

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<v Speaker 1>also listen to the stuff you say after something happened,

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<v Speaker 1>and I figured you were a smart dude. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. And that's the whole thing about it.

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<v Speaker 1>When you start digging into somebody you want to find

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<v Speaker 1>out about him, it's not the surface. Like John Thompson

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<v Speaker 1>who just passed away recently. A long time. You say, man,

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<v Speaker 1>don't let people judge you by sound clips of your life.

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<v Speaker 1>And think about that. So if you say something, if

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<v Speaker 1>you if you say something and somebody got there on

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<v Speaker 1>on got a little recording of it, and there's always played.

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<v Speaker 1>People judge you based off of that clip. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>know all the terterrible things you do. They don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how hard you have to fight to get to where

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<v Speaker 1>you are, you know. And I think that's the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing about it. When you start paying attention to people,

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<v Speaker 1>you can figure some things out instead of just going

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<v Speaker 1>around judging them based off of what somebody else told you.

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<v Speaker 1>As a kid, How did you see football as a sport,

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<v Speaker 1>as a job, as a way out as I saw

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<v Speaker 1>it as a way out. You know, my my mom

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<v Speaker 1>and dad. I look, I always felt rich because of

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<v Speaker 1>the love that I see from my family. I knew

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<v Speaker 1>that my mom and dad didn't have the money to

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<v Speaker 1>just send me to a college. So when I started

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<v Speaker 1>playing sports, and like I said, I'm the youngest of

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<v Speaker 1>seven kids and I have fo older brothers. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>five and a half years younger than my brother that's

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<v Speaker 1>next to me. So when I'm playing with my relative,

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<v Speaker 1>street was one way in, one way out. All forty

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<v Speaker 1>homes were relatives, and they had a bunch of boys

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<v Speaker 1>on the streets. So eventually little little little Keith that

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<v Speaker 1>they called me my name Brian Keith Mitchon, they called

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<v Speaker 1>me Keith. I had to start playing with the people

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<v Speaker 1>that were older than me. And when I started realizing

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<v Speaker 1>that I was kind of good at it, and my

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<v Speaker 1>dad started saying, man, you might be able to get

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<v Speaker 1>a scholarship one day. So I'm thinking, get a scholarship,

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<v Speaker 1>I can go to the college. You know, I can

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<v Speaker 1>get out and go do the things I want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>So I saw it as a place of having fun

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<v Speaker 1>and being around my friends. But my ultimate goal was

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<v Speaker 1>to get a scholarship so I can be able to

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<v Speaker 1>go to college without my mom and dad, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>having to worry about that. I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>telling of your your age. But you're born in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty eight, You're born in Louisiana. How has Louisiana changed

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<v Speaker 1>since you were a kid? Uh? I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 1>changed drastically, To be totally honest with you, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's very similar as a southern state that's kind of lost,

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest with you, But I think that you

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<v Speaker 1>find that when you like what I was saying earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>when you begin to deal with people on a personal level,

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<v Speaker 1>you find out that it's not totally the way that

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<v Speaker 1>people see the cover of it. You know, I have

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of friends there that are very prosperous, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>both white and black, and uh, they try to change

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<v Speaker 1>and they try to make a difference. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I still love going home because the people are so

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<v Speaker 1>much more hospitable down south than they are up north.

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<v Speaker 1>I still love to go down. They eat the food

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<v Speaker 1>because the food is the best that you're gonna get.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've been to South Louisiana and North Louisiana two

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<v Speaker 1>totally different states. You know, down south we have a

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<v Speaker 1>little fun up north, they are a little dry up

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<v Speaker 1>North Louisiana. Yeah, I hate to I hate to be dumb,

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<v Speaker 1>but I go ahead. And what's the difference between the

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<v Speaker 1>north and southe like, I've only been to so I've

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<v Speaker 1>been to Uh, I've been Angola, so I I go

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<v Speaker 1>there once a year. Uh huh to Angola, the prison

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<v Speaker 1>down there, and then other than the Saints, I've never

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<v Speaker 1>really gone even never going to pass New Orleans to

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<v Speaker 1>ban Rouge. Like, I don't know, I don't know the difference.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's the difference in North Louisiana South? To me?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I just thought it was Louisiana. Now when

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<v Speaker 1>you're in South Louisiana is basically more of the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a combination because you can go to

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<v Speaker 1>different little towns and areas and even New Orleans. When

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<v Speaker 1>you're in New Orleans, you don't really think you're in

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<v Speaker 1>in like Louisiana. You think you're like in like uh

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<v Speaker 1>more of a Caribbean island where they have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fun all the time. You get what I'm saying, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot more fun and festive down south. Up north,

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<v Speaker 1>they have dry parishes, you know, like county. It's counties

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<v Speaker 1>in every state except United step Louisiana's parishes in Louisiana

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<v Speaker 1>more of the French. Uh the French, I guess uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Touch that goes there. So the drive means that they

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<v Speaker 1>don't serve alcohol. There have no such things downside out.

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<v Speaker 1>It served everywhere, and they probably still can serve it

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<v Speaker 1>to eighteen year olds because they changed the laws when

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<v Speaker 1>they when they change the law from eighteen one, they

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<v Speaker 1>said private club that eighteen you could have beer and wine.

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<v Speaker 1>They change it back the other way. Mhm, but I've

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<v Speaker 1>know it. It's different. It's just totally different. Yea, we

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<v Speaker 1>call it Lord can saw to be honest with you

0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:23.040
<v Speaker 1>where they came from. We have to take a break

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you listen to podcast. I got all my answers questions. Um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I got all my questions answered. That's what I'm here for,

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<v Speaker 1>a brother, cut to a podcast dot com. I'm interested

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<v Speaker 1>to hear about your about your college experience because you

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<v Speaker 1>said you played quarterback. Also, no, you have five thousand

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<v Speaker 1>yards passing three thousand yards Russian. But now when we

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<v Speaker 1>look at we look at the past and current athletes.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, every was a one star recruit. We all

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<v Speaker 1>think that every guy that plays in the National Football

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<v Speaker 1>League or a very successful college player, oh, he had

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<v Speaker 1>to be a baller, right, he had to be highly recruited.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not always the case. It's not, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think about it like you know, Uh, my

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<v Speaker 1>dad had a heart attack when I was in the

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<v Speaker 1>ninth grade, had open heart surgery. So my my mindset

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<v Speaker 1>was to go to college, be falling enough away so

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<v Speaker 1>I can grow as the individual, be close enough to

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<v Speaker 1>go back and check on him if I had to.

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<v Speaker 1>So my college had offered me a chemical engineering scholarship

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<v Speaker 1>prior to be ever recruited me as a as a

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<v Speaker 1>football player. And my my high school coach got a

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<v Speaker 1>job there as a receiver's coach, and he was like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna run the offense that you're very good at.

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<v Speaker 1>They really want you said, why that? Why that? Why

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<v Speaker 1>haven't they recruited me? So when they came along and

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<v Speaker 1>recruit me, I ended up uh signing there because Nelson

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<v Speaker 1>Stokely was a coach at Clemson when they won the

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<v Speaker 1>national championship in one I think it was, so we

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<v Speaker 1>were running the running shoot a single back two slice

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<v Speaker 1>too wide out, so we ran the option and we

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<v Speaker 1>ran a wide open offense. And that's what I did

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<v Speaker 1>in high school. So I ended up going there because

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<v Speaker 1>I was falling enough away from home. They showed me

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<v Speaker 1>that love as a you know, a student prior to

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<v Speaker 1>just being an athlete. And I still can be I

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<v Speaker 1>can get home if I need to go there. And

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<v Speaker 1>as my as a freshman, I end up getting a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to start midway through the season and the rest

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<v Speaker 1>is history. They allowed me to play, and uh, I

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<v Speaker 1>missed some of my best friends there, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but the thing of it, I was highly recruited as

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<v Speaker 1>a quarterback. But I didn't want to go to a school.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna just let me only running the football.

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<v Speaker 1>Wanted somebody to give me a chance to throw it

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<v Speaker 1>in running And you know I chose that school and

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<v Speaker 1>held the league still found me. I got four teen

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<v Speaker 1>years I left. I guess as a success. We always

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<v Speaker 1>hear these stories about a player what he picked up

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<v Speaker 1>playing sports or picked up playing football. Um, his junior

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<v Speaker 1>year right, he he was on the band team. He was,

0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:38.520
<v Speaker 1>he was, he was planning to claring that somebody's song,

0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:42.480
<v Speaker 1>uh during pe and he slammed the basketball. They saw

0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:48.360
<v Speaker 1>how athletic he was. Why don't we ever hear about quarterbacks? Well,

0:24:48.400 --> 0:24:51.080
<v Speaker 1>he played, He started playing quarterback his junior year, senior

0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:54.960
<v Speaker 1>in high school and having success from there. I've never really,

0:24:55.000 --> 0:24:58.400
<v Speaker 1>we've never heard that story. We've heard running back who

0:24:59.200 --> 0:25:01.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, never laid or was on the band. That's

0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:07.119
<v Speaker 1>Mike Anderson. We've heard other people that kid, uh, Clay

0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:11.440
<v Speaker 1>Chase Borne or something. He played a Notre Dame. He's

0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:15.199
<v Speaker 1>from Canada. He's playing tight end slash wide receivers currently

0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:19.639
<v Speaker 1>for the Pittsburgh Steelers. So he didn't play football right

0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:24.080
<v Speaker 1>or defensive end defensive ends that hadn't played, hadn't played

0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:28.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, um heck, one of the best tight ends

0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:30.760
<v Speaker 1>in the game back in the day, an Tonio Gates.

0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:37.400
<v Speaker 1>He was a basketball Yeah right, Why can't that happened

0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:42.000
<v Speaker 1>for a quarterback. I think the quarterbacks, the mindset of

0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:45.480
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback, that it has to be a little different

0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:48.760
<v Speaker 1>because you you're not just thinking your position, you're thinking

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 1>every position. You need to know the game a little

0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:54.280
<v Speaker 1>bit longer, a little bit a little better. Uh So

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:56.640
<v Speaker 1>I started, I just stopped playing. I started playing quite

0:25:56.640 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 1>back in eighth grade and played it all the way

0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:02.840
<v Speaker 1>through college. That I had played from what fifth seventh grade?

0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:05.920
<v Speaker 1>I played other positions prior to that, and then when

0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I got into the league, I played quarterback and other

0:26:09.320 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I played. I played quarterback in a few games because

0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:14.199
<v Speaker 1>guys got hurt and not to fence the game. But

0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:17.080
<v Speaker 1>I played every position but quarterback. But I just think

0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:21.080
<v Speaker 1>that the quarterback, the guys that played at is normally

0:26:21.760 --> 0:26:24.080
<v Speaker 1>many people know, when I was young, you put the

0:26:24.080 --> 0:26:27.800
<v Speaker 1>best athlete at quarterback. That's what they did. You know,

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:30.240
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't that you were you could pass the ball better.

0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:32.960
<v Speaker 1>But in junior high, in high school, you ran the

0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:35.200
<v Speaker 1>football for the most part. When they saw a guy

0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:37.200
<v Speaker 1>that had a great arm, they wanted him to play quarterback,

0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:39.440
<v Speaker 1>and you end up sticking to that. And I think

0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:42.080
<v Speaker 1>now you see young kids and they can play quarterback,

0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 1>and they see how much money the quarterback is getting,

0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 1>you better stay at quarterback. Five million dollars. Yes, so

0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:53.080
<v Speaker 1>you get groomed earlier quarters. Yeah, because like what's called

0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:57.040
<v Speaker 1>I think, uh was it Colin Murray? I've been playing

0:26:57.119 --> 0:27:00.640
<v Speaker 1>quarterback forever and that's all he knows. And many people

0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:02.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't think a guy his statue will ever be a

0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:04.600
<v Speaker 1>quarterback in the league. Hell, he's doing good at it,

0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:08.840
<v Speaker 1>doing pretty good. Yeah, yeah, I'd say so. Yeah. So

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:14.560
<v Speaker 1>let's jump down to so you transition five thousand yards

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:19.880
<v Speaker 1>passing three thousand yards rushing. You never called a pump return.

0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:24.679
<v Speaker 1>You never did kick off in college? Is that correct? Okay?

0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:30.879
<v Speaker 1>Coming out of college? What did they and I and

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:35.320
<v Speaker 1>I used today? What did they tell you the position

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:39.720
<v Speaker 1>you would play going through the combine and going in

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:42.840
<v Speaker 1>potentially going in the NFL draft? I was drafted. What

0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 1>they told me they're gonna draft me as an athlete?

0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:47.119
<v Speaker 1>And uh, they had to figure out what position I

0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 1>can play. I told I would love that whatever position

0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:51.400
<v Speaker 1>I play, I wanted to have the ball in my hand.

0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:53.200
<v Speaker 1>But if I had to try and play defense, I'll

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:55.359
<v Speaker 1>do that. I was offered a contract to go to

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Canada and play quarterback, but my dream has never been

0:27:57.600 --> 0:28:00.359
<v Speaker 1>to play in Canada. My dream was a bit in NFL.

0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I just felt if I got an opportunity to play

0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:05.159
<v Speaker 1>any position, I had a chance to make it. Because

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 1>people asked me what I considered myself, I always said

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:11.480
<v Speaker 1>a football player. You know, because when I first started

0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 1>playing football, I played d N and linebacker. Uh the

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 1>coach had me at center prior of moving me into

0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 1>running back in the seventh grade, and then when I

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 1>got to the eight grade, they moved to quarterback. So

0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:25.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, I just love having the football. When when

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:28.359
<v Speaker 1>I was throwing interception, I tried to make the tatles.

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:31.720
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have a problem hitting people. But I didn't

0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 1>want to play in Canada. I felt that I go

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:36.439
<v Speaker 1>to Canada, nobody going over here from me again. I

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 1>stay in the league and find a way to make it.

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I'll still be known here in the States where the

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 1>big league is, I call it the National Football League.

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Going back to the nineteen nine draft. You were drafted,

0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:55.960
<v Speaker 1>You go to the now Washington football team. You got

0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the first practice. Yes, where do you line up? They

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:03.360
<v Speaker 1>put me with running backs and the return men and

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:06.720
<v Speaker 1>every special team's team you can name. And I was

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 1>also told by coach Gibs, learned the offense because you

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:11.880
<v Speaker 1>are emergency quarterback. Russell Grim is no longer going to

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 1>be so Russ Grim, the officer of linement, was the

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:20.240
<v Speaker 1>emergency quarterback? Was Grim? Yes, he played quarterback in high

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 1>school I think it was, And then when he got

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 1>the college he started gaming away. They moved their officsive line,

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 1>so he was the emergency quarterback on that team. So

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:31.479
<v Speaker 1>I got there, Well I'm gonna I'm I'm gonna go

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 1>down to rosters. They had Mark Ripkin. Then it has

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 1>stand Hues Humphries, who was the third guy. Jeff ruled.

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:58.120
<v Speaker 1>How was Jeff? Uh? I felt that I had now

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 1>he still gotta see Jeff No, I felt I hadn't been.

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 1>I should always tell him, I said, man, if you

0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 1>play in the league, I damn took a play in

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 1>the league. You know, because Jeff had been around for

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 1>ten years, ten eleven years and had like three thousand

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 1>New York passing, like, hell, I can do that. I

0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:20.440
<v Speaker 1>could do that, all right, man. I was just curious.

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 1>That year we played a game, the game is known

0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 1>as the Body Bad Game against the Eagles, and the

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Eagles end up hurting like eight or nine people, and

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 1>of that eight or nine, I was backing up for

0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 1>those people. Both quarterbacks got hurt, both punt returners got hurt,

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:43.560
<v Speaker 1>so I had to play punt return and I end

0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:46.000
<v Speaker 1>up I ended the game in quarterback. We had one

0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 1>touchdown drive in that game. Guess who was the quarterback?

0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 1>Jeff No. So you know, although I didn't get a

0:30:56.640 --> 0:31:00.200
<v Speaker 1>chance to play it for a long time, just that

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 1>moment showed me, well, damn it, if you can do it,

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 1>I can do it. Were your numbers? Do you remember that?

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 1>I think I finished, uh four or six or something

0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 1>like that for fifty some yards. I had y passing

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:15.200
<v Speaker 1>three f five for some of you all passing. I

0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 1>went into it and I had a touchdown rush because

0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Ricky Sanders went out abounds on a half yard line.

0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 1>So I just quarterback sneak that thing in the next one.

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 1>So let a running play on. But in college, whenever

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 1>we were there if they left the spot, you just

0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:31.240
<v Speaker 1>sneak it in. And that's what I did. And that's amazing.

0:31:31.240 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 1>That controversatility, it's crazy. Let's talk TV. Okay, what has

0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 1>been your biggest on air mistake on TV? Yeah, we're talking,

0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 1>we're talking TV on TV. My biggest on a mistake

0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:54.680
<v Speaker 1>m hm. Basically forgetting them on camera. And and you know,

0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:57.040
<v Speaker 1>when you don't care, you gotta keep that that look.

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:01.480
<v Speaker 1>I I didn't keep that look. I was basically giving

0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 1>a guy like, you don't know what the hell you're

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 1>talking about look, And they were in my ears saying

0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 1>you're on camera, you're on camera, and uh, you know,

0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't. I would have thought it would be me

0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:13.840
<v Speaker 1>cursing because I know him to cann let things just fly.

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:17.480
<v Speaker 1>I've been, I've been, I've been. I've been very good

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 1>at that because I know that, you know, the company

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:22.240
<v Speaker 1>gets fine, If they get fine enough, you'll be gone.

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:27.800
<v Speaker 1>So I kind of appreciate that. Smithy, you might want

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:35.120
<v Speaker 1>to back, well, if you want to, you want to

0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 1>get fired and stick it to a company, But yours

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 1>was Yours was more or less a face. It was

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 1>anything that you said, yeah, it was, yeah, it was

0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 1>it was a face. What what advice would you give me?

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:51.239
<v Speaker 1>Um being on TV because you're better. I would tell you,

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 1>like James Brown told me, continue being who you are

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 1>because the way that you are and straightforward is it's

0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:59.240
<v Speaker 1>what is what people really want to hear from you.

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:02.560
<v Speaker 1>But I would say this, like, make sure you just

0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:05.479
<v Speaker 1>do your research and stay on top of everything. And

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:09.240
<v Speaker 1>if you want to improve your your knowledge of the

0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:13.239
<v Speaker 1>actual ins and outs of the TV industry, you know

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 1>you have time, take the time to do it. But

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:18.440
<v Speaker 1>don't ever change who you are. You know, because I

0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 1>watched people get on camera and they become somebody else,

0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, what the hell are you playing a

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 1>character or something? You know, It's like they're talking to you.

0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 1>As soon as the camera come on, like they voice change,

0:33:28.800 --> 0:33:30.840
<v Speaker 1>they stand straight. I'm like, what the hell is this?

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 1>You know? And I just never wanted to be that

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:37.800
<v Speaker 1>person because if you hired me because of my opinions,

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 1>then you're gonna get my opinions. So I have man

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:43.000
<v Speaker 1>had a lot of my contracts said that they hired

0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:47.720
<v Speaker 1>me for my opinions, not theirs. Let's talk ball, okay, right,

0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 1>playing in the NFC East, you're in the air where uh,

0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:55.320
<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of professional dislike you have to

0:33:55.400 --> 0:34:00.480
<v Speaker 1>wash at the time. Washington football team, the Dallas cow Boys,

0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 1>the Eagles, and the Giants. What was that experience because

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:10.880
<v Speaker 1>watching it, man, you guys hated each other. It was

0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:13.120
<v Speaker 1>the Black and Blue Division, we called it, because if

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 1>you played in the if you play in the NFCS

0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 1>and you came out on top, you basically want to

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:20.680
<v Speaker 1>be somewhere around the super Bowl that year. And we

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:23.880
<v Speaker 1>all knew that. So, I know, people look at games

0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 1>this year and there's normally two teams in the division

0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:29.080
<v Speaker 1>and robberies, but hey, we had a robbery with everybody

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:31.400
<v Speaker 1>that was in our in the division, you know. And

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 1>then I played on three of the different teams. So

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:35.560
<v Speaker 1>when I go to Philly, I find out that they

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:38.640
<v Speaker 1>disliked Washington and Dallas in New York, just like we

0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:40.440
<v Speaker 1>did here in Washington. And then I go to New

0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:44.040
<v Speaker 1>York and it's exact same thing. But you know the

0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:47.319
<v Speaker 1>thing about it, all of the teams were good. You know,

0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 1>when you're battling people and and they knocked you out.

0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:52.759
<v Speaker 1>The playoffs are you're battling to go to like the

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:55.759
<v Speaker 1>conference championship and you lose that game, that's a lot

0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:57.759
<v Speaker 1>of dislike. But when you're just horrible and you lose

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 1>to a team, what what you're gonna dislike? You know?

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 1>And I think as I look at you, look at

0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:05.480
<v Speaker 1>the names of Reggie White's, uh, Lawrence Taylor's you know,

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:09.960
<v Speaker 1>uh all in it and Troy and and and uh

0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Michael over in Dallas at the time, it was just

0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:16.479
<v Speaker 1>so many top notch athletes and all the teams were good,

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:19.000
<v Speaker 1>and you're batting to go to the super Bowl in essence,

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:22.080
<v Speaker 1>So if you don't dislike the person who's gonna take

0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 1>money off of your audio pocket and take food off

0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 1>your table, there's something's wrong with you. And when I

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 1>got to Washington, it was instant. They made sure you

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 1>did not like Dallas first, and then the Giants and

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 1>Eagles follow right behind, very closely, program you right out

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:41.319
<v Speaker 1>the gate. Oh yeah, and look, I came from Louisiana,

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:43.799
<v Speaker 1>se trying to wear some sleeves, you know, and Monty

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Coleman walked up and took some cizs and just cutting

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:48.960
<v Speaker 1>my sleeves and say, we don't do sleeves here because

0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:53.560
<v Speaker 1>you look like yourself. You know, what's that being said?

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:56.839
<v Speaker 1>What do you think about the current NFL player today? Well,

0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that they are given too many damn options.

0:36:02.239 --> 0:36:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Let's think. I think it's just like kids today. Okay,

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:06.560
<v Speaker 1>when I was growing up, what no damn one the

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:09.719
<v Speaker 1>hunt your number, We're No. Nine one one. You got you,

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:11.359
<v Speaker 1>but what you got you? But if you learn from

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:13.880
<v Speaker 1>your mistakes today And then all of a sudden, and

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:15.759
<v Speaker 1>I got a little, I started getting older, I start saying,

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 1>you gotta what you can call somebody on your daddy

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 1>and you're still living, you know. Then you look at

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 1>the NFL. Now, they give them too many options. You know.

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 1>We we we we had two days in full gear,

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 1>you know. And and I also saw a lot less

0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:35.759
<v Speaker 1>injuries back then. Some days we had tree days. Okay.

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:38.319
<v Speaker 1>Now I look at these guys, they rarely practice and

0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:42.480
<v Speaker 1>then they still complain. So they're given too many options.

0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:44.440
<v Speaker 1>And we all know, if you've got kids, if you

0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 1>tell your kids this is what you're gonna do, they're

0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:48.319
<v Speaker 1>gonna do that. They'll learn how to deal with it.

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:51.839
<v Speaker 1>Some kids, all right, this lot of parents out there,

0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:59.759
<v Speaker 1>and they think it's uh, they think it's democracy. Yeah, yeah,

0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:04.800
<v Speaker 1>some parents something. Some parents really believe in. Let me

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:07.839
<v Speaker 1>get your input. Yeah, no, no, no, I have I

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:11.759
<v Speaker 1>have a thirty one year old son, six twenty and

0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:14.760
<v Speaker 1>eighteen year old daughters. I love him all of death,

0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:18.640
<v Speaker 1>but they understand. You know, we're not gonna sit up

0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:21.880
<v Speaker 1>in and be a tyrant to you. But with mommy

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:24.560
<v Speaker 1>and I say, goes. If you want to make like

0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:27.120
<v Speaker 1>my dad used to. My dad told my oldest brother

0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:29.839
<v Speaker 1>that's when I learned real quickly. My oldest brother came

0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 1>in the house one time talking about what he was.

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 1>He cocked strong and all this my dad's He brought

0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:36.520
<v Speaker 1>on cursing from my wife. He said that I just

0:37:36.520 --> 0:37:38.880
<v Speaker 1>said cock. He said, yeah, cock is a you know,

0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:41.240
<v Speaker 1>even though it is he said, he cursingally from my wife.

0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:44.160
<v Speaker 1>So he said, well, if you think you could beat

0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:47.040
<v Speaker 1>my ass, you you make the rules. So he gave

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:49.080
<v Speaker 1>my brother the boxing gloves. My brother put him on.

0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:52.359
<v Speaker 1>He said, mistake, and I told your earlier my dad

0:37:52.400 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 1>box in the military. He beat the hell out of

0:37:56.640 --> 0:37:58.680
<v Speaker 1>my brothers. I go to college, I come back your

0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 1>eighteen years old and in the summer program, I am yoked.

0:38:04.719 --> 0:38:06.400
<v Speaker 1>He threw me a glove. Was not the bastes on

0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:09.680
<v Speaker 1>the ground, you know, But No, I'm not putting on

0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:12.120
<v Speaker 1>those gloves because he also was a marks within the military,

0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:16.359
<v Speaker 1>so I'm not still So he can't believe your brother

0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:19.360
<v Speaker 1>trying to run up on your daddy late. My brother

0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 1>was the baddest dude I knew till that day. Did

0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:27.600
<v Speaker 1>your daddy work it? Was it quick or was it dude? Look,

0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna see if you did you watch the Felix

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Trinidad but Nord Hopkins right, Uh, it watched me. Okay,

0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:38.640
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you this. Don't watch that fighting. Every time

0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Felix got ready to throw a punch, he went on

0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:43.919
<v Speaker 1>the balls of his feet and but now I would

0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:46.600
<v Speaker 1>jab him or hit him with something. So my dad

0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:49.440
<v Speaker 1>said my brother was doing something similar. So every time

0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:51.440
<v Speaker 1>my brother got ready to throw he would jab him

0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:53.759
<v Speaker 1>up and then baby bang. And he told my mom

0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:55.640
<v Speaker 1>and said, I had to show your son that he

0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:58.399
<v Speaker 1>wasn't the badder in his badness in his house. And

0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:01.400
<v Speaker 1>nobody else tried it, And we had four more bars

0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:05.080
<v Speaker 1>after Blanch said, we never had another boy trying as

0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:09.799
<v Speaker 1>what we say. Damn shame what he did to Blanch exactly.

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:12.799
<v Speaker 1>But I tell you I paid attention. I knew I

0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:15.319
<v Speaker 1>knew what mistakes to or knew what things to do

0:39:15.719 --> 0:39:17.239
<v Speaker 1>and what things not to do. And it was not

0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:20.279
<v Speaker 1>to put on the gloves and box that dude. How

0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:23.280
<v Speaker 1>were you able to play as long as you played

0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:28.040
<v Speaker 1>because you played a lot of possessition. And first of all,

0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:30.400
<v Speaker 1>let me go ahead and take this because I'm I

0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:36.160
<v Speaker 1>remised if I don't say this. You were a plumber.

0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:41.480
<v Speaker 1>And what do I mean by plumber is this? We

0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:48.040
<v Speaker 1>don't really respect respect plumbers. We don't respect electricians till

0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:52.440
<v Speaker 1>especially with a plumber to your toilet get clogged up.

0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:57.640
<v Speaker 1>There you go and you need high ship where you

0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:00.759
<v Speaker 1>need them. And then that's what we especially in what

0:40:00.840 --> 0:40:03.680
<v Speaker 1>we're in right now, they're called the sense of workers.

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:08.320
<v Speaker 1>When we need someone we we we just can't call somebody,

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:11.719
<v Speaker 1>or we need a specialist. And you were that specialist.

0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:17.239
<v Speaker 1>You did everything. You You played punt returner. You were

0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:21.279
<v Speaker 1>the kick returner, but also you played multiple positions. When

0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 1>your team was punting to the the opposing team's punt returning,

0:40:25.160 --> 0:40:31.440
<v Speaker 1>you went down and covered those kicks. You've played everything

0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:35.719
<v Speaker 1>for me. Stings I I I looked at myself as

0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:37.920
<v Speaker 1>a football player, I felt I could do many things.

0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:40.840
<v Speaker 1>But when I trained, I trained to get ready for

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:43.560
<v Speaker 1>a football season. I don't know what some of these

0:40:43.560 --> 0:40:47.600
<v Speaker 1>guys trained for today, because I still believe that. You know,

0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:49.759
<v Speaker 1>when you're getting ready to play a football season and

0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:52.440
<v Speaker 1>you have to put your body through hell because you're

0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:55.759
<v Speaker 1>gonna go through hell during that season, and not being

0:40:55.800 --> 0:40:57.800
<v Speaker 1>the biggest guy. And then they got the crazy guys

0:40:57.800 --> 0:41:01.120
<v Speaker 1>coming downtown attacking me on returns. You know, I have

0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:02.520
<v Speaker 1>to be able to give you a little something too,

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:05.279
<v Speaker 1>because I'm not gonna just accept it all day. So

0:41:05.560 --> 0:41:07.480
<v Speaker 1>when I got to the league, I was a hundred

0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:11.440
<v Speaker 1>and ninety eight pounds and my senior in college, I

0:41:11.520 --> 0:41:14.279
<v Speaker 1>powered cleaned three D five, I've been five, and I

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:17.920
<v Speaker 1>squat six fifth things. I didn't feel I had to

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:19.839
<v Speaker 1>be the biggest, but if I got lower than you,

0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I can I can get you off of your feet.

0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:23.880
<v Speaker 1>So when I got to the league, I was the

0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:27.120
<v Speaker 1>exact same way, and and Dan Raley, I was strang cold.

0:41:27.160 --> 0:41:28.799
<v Speaker 1>He said, man, what the hell are you doing? I

0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:32.840
<v Speaker 1>remember I saw Barry Sanders had done some weights very similar,

0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:34.960
<v Speaker 1>So I was trying to be Barry Sanders in college.

0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be as strong as he was. You know,

0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:40.239
<v Speaker 1>never would have the moves that he had. But I

0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:43.800
<v Speaker 1>felt that if I trained my body and tortured myself

0:41:43.880 --> 0:41:45.200
<v Speaker 1>in the all season, I had a chance. They have

0:41:45.280 --> 0:41:47.560
<v Speaker 1>fun during the season. And I see a lot of

0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:50.359
<v Speaker 1>guys who, you know, they pushed it foot a round

0:41:50.400 --> 0:41:52.880
<v Speaker 1>during the off season. They try to cut corners. Then

0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:55.040
<v Speaker 1>they get into the season they can't understand why they

0:41:55.080 --> 0:41:57.399
<v Speaker 1>can't play. You know. I tell a lot of young

0:41:57.440 --> 0:41:59.880
<v Speaker 1>people today, like I got dudes that I ride bikes with.

0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:02.400
<v Speaker 1>They're like, man, I can't do this. I say, well,

0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:04.160
<v Speaker 1>if you want to ride a fifty mile ride, how

0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:05.239
<v Speaker 1>the hell are you gonna know you can go to

0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:08.920
<v Speaker 1>it if you keep riding only twenties, So you need

0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:11.680
<v Speaker 1>to go ride fifty, ride fifty five so you can

0:42:11.719 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 1>know you can do it. So the things I did

0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 1>in practice, like Ernest Bryan was my dude. Ernest Bronner

0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:19.560
<v Speaker 1>taught me, you know, how to go beyond so when

0:42:19.560 --> 0:42:23.040
<v Speaker 1>the games came around, it was easy. And I think

0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:26.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of guys that they never ever pushed themselves

0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:28.399
<v Speaker 1>to the limit. They never test themselves. They don't know

0:42:28.800 --> 0:42:31.319
<v Speaker 1>if they can. They just think they can. How the

0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:33.640
<v Speaker 1>coaches expect them to do it, but they don't know.

0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:36.239
<v Speaker 1>But I tried my damage to push myself to the

0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:38.759
<v Speaker 1>to the limits. And growing up with a military dad,

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:41.319
<v Speaker 1>I was pushed to the limit with my whole life.

0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:43.360
<v Speaker 1>So what the what the different? What difference it was? It?

0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Was it now that I was becoming a man myself.

0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I think it's about that time. Just take a little breather,

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:56.840
<v Speaker 1>good good gets getting down to do ridd Hey, Gerard,

0:42:56.960 --> 0:43:00.239
<v Speaker 1>why did you get that T shirt? Oh? Yes, I

0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:02.319
<v Speaker 1>got it from cut to a podcast dot com where

0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:05.319
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0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:07.080
<v Speaker 1>seven or four shot. But yeah, you can go on,

0:43:07.440 --> 0:43:09.719
<v Speaker 1>buy you a T shirt, subscribe to us wherever you

0:43:09.760 --> 0:43:19.799
<v Speaker 1>listen to podcasts. You wrote a children's book, A Champion Heart.

0:43:21.640 --> 0:43:24.759
<v Speaker 1>I I'm assuming I know where it came from, just

0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:27.439
<v Speaker 1>the way you're talking about your dad and and your

0:43:27.520 --> 0:43:32.120
<v Speaker 1>family values. But I want to I want to really know,

0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:37.440
<v Speaker 1>even in depth. I understand the really now getting this

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:41.120
<v Speaker 1>time to talk to you where it came from. But

0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:45.440
<v Speaker 1>why did you believe it was needed? Though? Well, I

0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:48.360
<v Speaker 1>think like little kids are looking, they look at athletes

0:43:48.600 --> 0:43:51.480
<v Speaker 1>as much as they look at anybody to get some

0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:54.959
<v Speaker 1>type of spark or get some guidance. And throughout my life,

0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:57.280
<v Speaker 1>I was looking back into New York asked me the question,

0:43:57.560 --> 0:44:00.280
<v Speaker 1>how had my upbringing impact to me? And this sense

0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:03.440
<v Speaker 1>and so I just started thinking about it. And I

0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:05.680
<v Speaker 1>think about when I was a young kid and people

0:44:05.719 --> 0:44:09.279
<v Speaker 1>always said that kid has heart when I was playing football. Uh,

0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:11.239
<v Speaker 1>then later on my dad had a heart attack. My

0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:13.479
<v Speaker 1>dad passed with a heart attack, so that's the heart

0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:16.960
<v Speaker 1>being touched again. And then you know, my mom and

0:44:17.040 --> 0:44:19.680
<v Speaker 1>dad were give us like whatever my mom cooked, she

0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 1>cooked as if she was cooking for a damn football

0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 1>team because he and her words were if somebody stopped

0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:25.560
<v Speaker 1>by the house, they may need to me, I'm gonna

0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:28.320
<v Speaker 1>make sure they have something to eat. And then they

0:44:28.360 --> 0:44:31.600
<v Speaker 1>were charitable. So I started thinking about my life and

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:34.080
<v Speaker 1>every time all those things came up, and it's like,

0:44:34.480 --> 0:44:38.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, having heart, being a guy who was competitive. Um,

0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:40.440
<v Speaker 1>my dad died of a heart attack, and that, you know,

0:44:40.800 --> 0:44:43.200
<v Speaker 1>made me want to start working with the Heart found

0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:45.120
<v Speaker 1>the Heart Association to make sure nobody else have to

0:44:45.160 --> 0:44:47.520
<v Speaker 1>deal with those type of things. And I find that

0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:50.120
<v Speaker 1>even if I'm not thinking about it, I'm trying to

0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:52.680
<v Speaker 1>do some charitable type things. So I wanted to just

0:44:53.000 --> 0:44:55.080
<v Speaker 1>it was about a champion's heart and talking to kids

0:44:55.120 --> 0:44:58.839
<v Speaker 1>about believing in yourself and uh, making sure you love

0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:01.319
<v Speaker 1>your parents, you know, and pay attention to the things

0:45:01.320 --> 0:45:03.239
<v Speaker 1>that they're trying to teach you, because as a kid,

0:45:03.960 --> 0:45:07.000
<v Speaker 1>we all think we know everything and our parents are

0:45:07.000 --> 0:45:09.399
<v Speaker 1>basically just trying to tell us that we've already been

0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:11.040
<v Speaker 1>through what you're gonna go through, and if you learn

0:45:11.080 --> 0:45:12.640
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, you wanta make the same mistakes that

0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:15.560
<v Speaker 1>we made. And I just wanted to put something together

0:45:15.600 --> 0:45:19.120
<v Speaker 1>about how my path went. You know, I was a

0:45:19.160 --> 0:45:22.400
<v Speaker 1>guy who wasn't the biggest um, didn't go to the

0:45:22.440 --> 0:45:26.080
<v Speaker 1>biggest school, wasn't told I was gonna play in the league,

0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:27.360
<v Speaker 1>like you know, all the kids, all the dudes in

0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:29.920
<v Speaker 1>my neighborhood, like, man, you're never playing in the NFL.

0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:32.879
<v Speaker 1>Well played fourteen years and then after my last year

0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:35.600
<v Speaker 1>they told me to see, you know, they let you go. Well, damn,

0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:37.440
<v Speaker 1>I played fourteen years. I get no credit for that,

0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:41.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, but it's just that I I just I

0:45:41.600 --> 0:45:44.239
<v Speaker 1>feel that kids need to understand that you don't have

0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:46.840
<v Speaker 1>to be the biggest, you don't have to be the baddest,

0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:48.879
<v Speaker 1>but if you're gonna be willing to put the work

0:45:48.920 --> 0:45:51.800
<v Speaker 1>in and take care of yourself, to take care of

0:45:51.840 --> 0:45:53.680
<v Speaker 1>your business, you can have the success that you want

0:45:53.680 --> 0:45:56.600
<v Speaker 1>to have. You know, I've watched you obviously playing with

0:45:56.640 --> 0:45:59.959
<v Speaker 1>the Baltimore Ravens um you know, here in Charlotte because

0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:03.759
<v Speaker 1>as of um the cable system, we don't really have it.

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:09.640
<v Speaker 1>But in Baltimore, I would see the Red Skins, um

0:46:09.680 --> 0:46:12.680
<v Speaker 1>the the the after the games and before the games,

0:46:12.719 --> 0:46:16.480
<v Speaker 1>and so I noticed that about you, your ton of energy.

0:46:17.280 --> 0:46:22.960
<v Speaker 1>And seeing watching the years with the Eagles and Washington

0:46:23.000 --> 0:46:25.840
<v Speaker 1>and all that stuff, and watching you with the different teams.

0:46:27.000 --> 0:46:34.080
<v Speaker 1>I always wondered, was the TV Brian Mitchell just just

0:46:34.200 --> 0:46:39.200
<v Speaker 1>as animated in person? And it hasn't. You haven't let

0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:42.440
<v Speaker 1>me down, and so I just it's just one of

0:46:42.480 --> 0:46:48.600
<v Speaker 1>those cool things. You know. Your belief system mm hm

0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:55.440
<v Speaker 1>it was. It was founded obviously by your parents. But

0:46:55.480 --> 0:47:00.839
<v Speaker 1>how did you keep that belief system always in that

0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:08.360
<v Speaker 1>direction versus getting sidetracked? Right, because you know you're from Louisiana,

0:47:08.560 --> 0:47:13.799
<v Speaker 1>went to a small school. Now you're in the nation's capital. Yeah,

0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:17.520
<v Speaker 1>you're playing on the biggest stage. How did you stay

0:47:17.640 --> 0:47:24.000
<v Speaker 1>focused on that such strong belief system without getting drilled

0:47:24.560 --> 0:47:27.080
<v Speaker 1>well at first of all, just says. When I was young,

0:47:27.160 --> 0:47:30.200
<v Speaker 1>my dad told me lived to be even respected and

0:47:30.239 --> 0:47:34.600
<v Speaker 1>I liked and that stuck with me, and then my

0:47:34.680 --> 0:47:37.959
<v Speaker 1>brothers and sisters never let me get the big head.

0:47:38.239 --> 0:47:41.799
<v Speaker 1>I think I was like somebody special. So when I

0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:44.640
<v Speaker 1>went home, it was always about you know, after my

0:47:44.719 --> 0:47:46.840
<v Speaker 1>dad passed away after my first season, it was about

0:47:47.360 --> 0:47:49.799
<v Speaker 1>what my dad said, and and the thing about it.

0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:53.600
<v Speaker 1>My possibly been gone since nine and some days I

0:47:53.640 --> 0:47:57.359
<v Speaker 1>still think he's around. You know, I'm being honest with you.

0:47:57.719 --> 0:48:02.160
<v Speaker 1>But the whole thing of it is, I I've always

0:48:02.320 --> 0:48:04.000
<v Speaker 1>like my My goals in life would to make my

0:48:04.040 --> 0:48:08.319
<v Speaker 1>mama happy, to make my daddy proud, and I'll stick

0:48:08.400 --> 0:48:11.719
<v Speaker 1>with that. And I think by the things that they

0:48:11.800 --> 0:48:15.200
<v Speaker 1>taught me, they've worked my whole life, So why would

0:48:15.239 --> 0:48:17.720
<v Speaker 1>I change them just because I got to a different place.

0:48:18.440 --> 0:48:20.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, when I first got up here to d C,

0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:25.799
<v Speaker 1>I was exposed to different things people were offering, but

0:48:25.920 --> 0:48:28.480
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't what I was about. You know, I came

0:48:28.520 --> 0:48:30.480
<v Speaker 1>here to play football. I didn't come here to be

0:48:30.520 --> 0:48:33.120
<v Speaker 1>everybody's friends. I didn't come here to try to be

0:48:33.320 --> 0:48:35.080
<v Speaker 1>liked by the whole community. I came here to be

0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:38.240
<v Speaker 1>respected when I was done, because we always tell people,

0:48:38.680 --> 0:48:40.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, they say, well, man, how do you think

0:48:40.000 --> 0:48:41.600
<v Speaker 1>people think about just say, not about how they think

0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:43.160
<v Speaker 1>about you now is when you're done, what they're gonna

0:48:43.160 --> 0:48:45.759
<v Speaker 1>say about you? Did you give everything you're supposed to give?

0:48:46.280 --> 0:48:50.160
<v Speaker 1>And I think by being such a dude that was

0:48:50.800 --> 0:48:52.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, like people say you were Mama's boy or

0:48:53.040 --> 0:48:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Daddy's boy. Hell, I was both of them, and I

0:48:55.920 --> 0:48:58.000
<v Speaker 1>wanted to make him proud and my mom my dad

0:48:58.000 --> 0:49:00.719
<v Speaker 1>passed away, my mom was still around, and I told

0:49:00.760 --> 0:49:02.440
<v Speaker 1>my dad, anything ever happened to you, I'm gonna be

0:49:02.440 --> 0:49:04.480
<v Speaker 1>here for and he said, I have no doubt I

0:49:04.560 --> 0:49:07.759
<v Speaker 1>know you will. You know. So I stayed trying to

0:49:07.800 --> 0:49:09.439
<v Speaker 1>be the guy that they always wanted me to be,

0:49:09.760 --> 0:49:11.840
<v Speaker 1>and I wasn't perfect with it all the time, but

0:49:11.880 --> 0:49:14.040
<v Speaker 1>I would say if I was gonna if I failed,

0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:15.880
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't gonna be often and it wouldn't be the

0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:18.839
<v Speaker 1>same thing again because I was gonna always think about

0:49:18.880 --> 0:49:22.440
<v Speaker 1>the fact that make Mama happy, make dad a problem.

0:49:22.520 --> 0:49:26.560
<v Speaker 1>M Wow, that's that's so amazing. I know I can

0:49:26.560 --> 0:49:30.320
<v Speaker 1>probably speak for Smithie when I say I don't only

0:49:30.560 --> 0:49:34.040
<v Speaker 1>hope and pray that my kids view me the same.

0:49:35.760 --> 0:49:38.520
<v Speaker 1>And that's one day my daughter, she I told her, said,

0:49:38.520 --> 0:49:40.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't want anybody to give me any gift. Just

0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:43.120
<v Speaker 1>take a piece of paper and a pen and write

0:49:43.400 --> 0:49:46.400
<v Speaker 1>what I mean to you. And she told my oldest

0:49:46.480 --> 0:49:47.960
<v Speaker 1>daughter was like, look that, I said, if I can,

0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:50.040
<v Speaker 1>if I one day I have half of the work

0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:54.560
<v Speaker 1>ethic that you have, I'm gonna be a success. That's

0:49:54.560 --> 0:49:58.000
<v Speaker 1>say enough for me, you know, because say they're getting it,

0:49:58.200 --> 0:50:00.879
<v Speaker 1>they see what you're doing and think for for us

0:50:00.880 --> 0:50:02.680
<v Speaker 1>as parents, we just want to know that our kids

0:50:02.760 --> 0:50:04.920
<v Speaker 1>understand what we're trying to do for them because my

0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:07.440
<v Speaker 1>daddy told me and and half the things I know

0:50:07.480 --> 0:50:09.799
<v Speaker 1>in life with my paps. So he said, Man, make

0:50:09.840 --> 0:50:14.440
<v Speaker 1>sure my grandkids lives or Belding yours was. And I'm

0:50:14.480 --> 0:50:16.239
<v Speaker 1>trying to teach my kids the same thing. If they

0:50:16.239 --> 0:50:19.120
<v Speaker 1>can make their kids lives, Belling, there's work. That's the

0:50:19.120 --> 0:50:27.279
<v Speaker 1>way you start legacies. Our last segment is called the

0:50:27.360 --> 0:50:30.080
<v Speaker 1>Deep Three, and these are just three questions that we

0:50:30.840 --> 0:50:34.160
<v Speaker 1>ask every athlete or celebrity whomever that comes on our

0:50:34.200 --> 0:50:36.640
<v Speaker 1>show just to go and get a deeper understanding of them,

0:50:36.680 --> 0:50:38.920
<v Speaker 1>So Smithy, won't you give them first? One? What are

0:50:38.960 --> 0:50:43.800
<v Speaker 1>your core values as a person. As a person, I

0:50:44.400 --> 0:50:49.000
<v Speaker 1>feel for me is to honor those that came before

0:50:49.040 --> 0:50:50.720
<v Speaker 1>me and took the time to teach me the things

0:50:50.760 --> 0:50:53.600
<v Speaker 1>that I know today, and then for me to take

0:50:53.640 --> 0:50:56.000
<v Speaker 1>those things and take them as far as I possibly can.

0:50:56.960 --> 0:50:59.920
<v Speaker 1>And to respect people the way I want to be respected.

0:51:01.239 --> 0:51:04.280
<v Speaker 1>And I think, uh, the and and then be thankful

0:51:04.560 --> 0:51:07.360
<v Speaker 1>every day for what I was given by the higher,

0:51:07.520 --> 0:51:09.719
<v Speaker 1>higher person that's higher than all of us and God.

0:51:09.800 --> 0:51:13.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, I was given talents and I've always told

0:51:13.480 --> 0:51:15.359
<v Speaker 1>people my thank you is to take those talents as

0:51:15.360 --> 0:51:18.040
<v Speaker 1>far as I can. And Uh, if I do those

0:51:18.040 --> 0:51:19.919
<v Speaker 1>four things, I think I'm gonna touch this about everything

0:51:19.960 --> 0:51:24.360
<v Speaker 1>I need to touch in life. Wow, you're such an

0:51:24.360 --> 0:51:29.680
<v Speaker 1>o g when you when you look back and you reflect,

0:51:30.440 --> 0:51:33.799
<v Speaker 1>what's the most important life lesson you would share with

0:51:33.880 --> 0:51:40.320
<v Speaker 1>the future generation? Mm hmm. You're gonna everybody's gonna make mistakes,

0:51:41.560 --> 0:51:44.279
<v Speaker 1>but you have to learn from your mistakes. You know,

0:51:44.440 --> 0:51:46.880
<v Speaker 1>it's probably multiple things I can give. But you know,

0:51:47.520 --> 0:51:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I think with a lot of times that we we

0:51:49.760 --> 0:51:52.000
<v Speaker 1>turn people off because people talk to us as if

0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:55.239
<v Speaker 1>they were perfect and I let people understand that you're

0:51:55.280 --> 0:51:56.799
<v Speaker 1>going to make a mistake in your life. You may

0:51:56.880 --> 0:52:00.000
<v Speaker 1>make multiple mistakes, but don't make them twice. Don't keep

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:02.719
<v Speaker 1>making them over and over again. Learn from it and

0:52:02.760 --> 0:52:05.000
<v Speaker 1>then move on and then try to educate somebody else

0:52:05.080 --> 0:52:07.800
<v Speaker 1>on it. Because I think when we are giving something,

0:52:08.239 --> 0:52:11.120
<v Speaker 1>whether it's a blessing or a tidbit, don't keep it

0:52:11.200 --> 0:52:14.080
<v Speaker 1>to yourself. You start sharing it with people. When you

0:52:14.120 --> 0:52:16.120
<v Speaker 1>start sharing it, you have more of an impact on it.

0:52:17.080 --> 0:52:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I had My last question was it's gonna be about

0:52:21.640 --> 0:52:25.560
<v Speaker 1>purpose in life and all that, and I wanted when

0:52:25.640 --> 0:52:28.520
<v Speaker 1>you were talking, I was thinking about some time. I

0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:34.200
<v Speaker 1>was like, man, I'll be scared if if Brian was

0:52:34.239 --> 0:52:41.560
<v Speaker 1>my dad right, just because of how you know, just

0:52:41.600 --> 0:52:44.359
<v Speaker 1>how much of perfectionists I am and want to get right.

0:52:44.440 --> 0:52:49.439
<v Speaker 1>So I kind of I'm reversion it. Uh. They don't

0:52:49.480 --> 0:52:51.839
<v Speaker 1>even know why. I'm kind of getting emotional before I'm

0:52:51.880 --> 0:52:57.920
<v Speaker 1>asking you, but it's, Uh, if you can talk to

0:52:57.960 --> 0:53:00.399
<v Speaker 1>your dad right now, what would you want to hear

0:53:00.440 --> 0:53:03.480
<v Speaker 1>from him? I just I would want to hear from him.

0:53:03.520 --> 0:53:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Did uh did I make you proud? You know? Did

0:53:06.080 --> 0:53:08.279
<v Speaker 1>I do the things you wanted me to do? And

0:53:08.320 --> 0:53:10.200
<v Speaker 1>to be be honest with your thing is just some

0:53:10.320 --> 0:53:13.160
<v Speaker 1>days I wake up and I just want to ask

0:53:13.239 --> 0:53:15.320
<v Speaker 1>him what should I do? You know, how should I

0:53:15.400 --> 0:53:18.920
<v Speaker 1>handle certain situations? Because he always seemed to have the answers,

0:53:18.960 --> 0:53:21.960
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. And hell, like I said,

0:53:21.960 --> 0:53:25.200
<v Speaker 1>I got three daughters at eighteen, twenty and twenty six,

0:53:26.080 --> 0:53:29.520
<v Speaker 1>and hey, that's a challenge where you're growing up with

0:53:29.560 --> 0:53:32.520
<v Speaker 1>those daughters and stuff like that. And because my we

0:53:32.640 --> 0:53:36.080
<v Speaker 1>had to two girls and then five boys afterwards, and

0:53:36.160 --> 0:53:39.280
<v Speaker 1>I want to know when they started hitting in certain ages,

0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:41.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, how did he have to deal with it?

0:53:41.440 --> 0:53:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Being such a masculine, strong dude. How did you deal

0:53:45.280 --> 0:53:48.839
<v Speaker 1>with the femininity of your daughters? You know what I mean?

0:53:49.160 --> 0:53:51.279
<v Speaker 1>Because sometimes I don't think I get it right, you know,

0:53:51.360 --> 0:53:54.320
<v Speaker 1>And I do everything to make sure that they're happy

0:53:54.400 --> 0:53:57.200
<v Speaker 1>and they know that. I just want them to be safe.

0:53:57.880 --> 0:54:00.800
<v Speaker 1>But I don't want to be overbearing. But then again,

0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:02.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to not do enough, you know what

0:54:02.880 --> 0:54:06.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. And if I could have that conversation with him,

0:54:06.760 --> 0:54:09.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, and yeah, I just wish he could have

0:54:09.400 --> 0:54:12.160
<v Speaker 1>gone through this. My dad died after my rookie season,

0:54:13.320 --> 0:54:16.640
<v Speaker 1>so I started accomplishing some major things after that, and

0:54:16.680 --> 0:54:20.319
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't there. You know, I wish that he could

0:54:20.320 --> 0:54:22.480
<v Speaker 1>have gone on their journey with me because I think

0:54:22.480 --> 0:54:24.680
<v Speaker 1>it was meant for him to be there. And people

0:54:24.719 --> 0:54:27.080
<v Speaker 1>always tell you they're looking down upon you, but I

0:54:27.080 --> 0:54:28.799
<v Speaker 1>wanted him to be beside me. You know what I'm saying.

0:54:28.840 --> 0:54:32.440
<v Speaker 1>He probably was, but you know what I'm saying. The

0:54:32.480 --> 0:54:38.880
<v Speaker 1>reason why I guess the emotionals, Uh, my grandfather impacted

0:54:38.880 --> 0:54:41.600
<v Speaker 1>my life that way, like even some of my family

0:54:41.640 --> 0:54:45.399
<v Speaker 1>says I'm more like my my grandfather than my dad,

0:54:46.719 --> 0:54:49.839
<v Speaker 1>and so talking to you and hearing that. There are

0:54:50.000 --> 0:54:53.680
<v Speaker 1>times in my life, like being forty one, there are

0:54:53.760 --> 0:54:57.640
<v Speaker 1>times like I believe in God, I love God, but

0:54:57.760 --> 0:55:02.160
<v Speaker 1>also there are times to where I don't want the

0:55:02.280 --> 0:55:08.080
<v Speaker 1>conversation internally with God. Sometimes I want someone that I'm

0:55:08.200 --> 0:55:11.719
<v Speaker 1>very like, someone that I got my values from is

0:55:11.800 --> 0:55:16.080
<v Speaker 1>my Grandpa. And sometimes I want that hug. Sometimes I

0:55:16.160 --> 0:55:23.280
<v Speaker 1>want that that's that particular touch that I know only

0:55:23.480 --> 0:55:27.400
<v Speaker 1>he gave me that no one else can give. I

0:55:27.480 --> 0:55:31.320
<v Speaker 1>love my wife, I love my boys, I love my

0:55:31.320 --> 0:55:36.240
<v Speaker 1>my my my best friends, but I need my Grandpa

0:55:36.400 --> 0:55:40.520
<v Speaker 1>times just listen hit me. I don't know why I

0:55:40.520 --> 0:55:43.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm over here, like I'm over tearing up, bro, And

0:55:43.040 --> 0:55:45.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what those things that I tell

0:55:45.840 --> 0:55:49.000
<v Speaker 1>people over and over again. You know, throughout our lives

0:55:49.040 --> 0:55:51.360
<v Speaker 1>growing up, people always chase something old man, you know,

0:55:51.840 --> 0:55:55.080
<v Speaker 1>men don't cry. No, when you cry about something that

0:55:55.080 --> 0:55:57.560
<v Speaker 1>makes that that you really feel and stuffing that that's

0:55:57.600 --> 0:56:00.799
<v Speaker 1>been impactful to you. That is being a man. A man,

0:56:01.239 --> 0:56:04.200
<v Speaker 1>A man is not trying to hide your emotions, hide

0:56:04.200 --> 0:56:06.359
<v Speaker 1>your feelings, run from the things. Know it's it's what

0:56:07.719 --> 0:56:09.359
<v Speaker 1>you got to where you are because of what your

0:56:09.360 --> 0:56:12.239
<v Speaker 1>grandfather gave you. He is steal some stuff in you

0:56:12.280 --> 0:56:14.279
<v Speaker 1>that if you didn't have it, you probably wouldn't be

0:56:14.320 --> 0:56:17.759
<v Speaker 1>the person you are to day. So that makes your emotional.

0:56:17.840 --> 0:56:20.239
<v Speaker 1>And I have looked. I'll be driving down the road

0:56:20.320 --> 0:56:22.279
<v Speaker 1>sometimes and all of a sudden something popping my head

0:56:22.280 --> 0:56:25.200
<v Speaker 1>and boom, herecause some damn tears like say, damn, I'm

0:56:25.239 --> 0:56:31.319
<v Speaker 1>getting soften, I'm getting It makes you understand, like you know,

0:56:32.080 --> 0:56:34.359
<v Speaker 1>as you go through life, what's important and what's not.

0:56:34.480 --> 0:56:37.400
<v Speaker 1>It's not it's not important for me to try to

0:56:37.480 --> 0:56:40.439
<v Speaker 1>make somebody think I'm a certain type of way. It's

0:56:40.480 --> 0:56:42.560
<v Speaker 1>important to be who I am and be the person

0:56:42.600 --> 0:56:44.640
<v Speaker 1>that the people that took the time to try to

0:56:44.680 --> 0:56:47.319
<v Speaker 1>make me become this person that they understand that, you

0:56:47.360 --> 0:56:49.920
<v Speaker 1>know what he took, heed to it and became something.

0:56:50.320 --> 0:56:52.719
<v Speaker 1>So if I'm gonna cry because I think, and I

0:56:52.760 --> 0:56:56.680
<v Speaker 1>don't cry because of things that are always sad, some

0:56:56.760 --> 0:56:59.040
<v Speaker 1>of the things that are happened make you make you cry.

0:56:59.640 --> 0:57:02.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, I got my four kid in college. You know,

0:57:03.360 --> 0:57:07.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm happy, and there I was crowding because I put

0:57:07.120 --> 0:57:09.040
<v Speaker 1>some work into that. And then for they see them

0:57:09.080 --> 0:57:12.000
<v Speaker 1>finally getting there and doing the thing that I've seen them.

0:57:12.239 --> 0:57:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Everybody leaves the other and teaches the other something that's

0:57:16.160 --> 0:57:18.720
<v Speaker 1>what I worked on, so that that makes me happen.

0:57:18.880 --> 0:57:21.240
<v Speaker 1>Somethime that happeness comes in and as in the form

0:57:21.280 --> 0:57:26.240
<v Speaker 1>of a damn cry for me, there are some players

0:57:28.080 --> 0:57:32.560
<v Speaker 1>that is more than just you know, knowing or getting

0:57:32.600 --> 0:57:37.560
<v Speaker 1>their respect. It's it brings me back. And I think

0:57:37.600 --> 0:57:40.160
<v Speaker 1>that's why I kind of triggered. Is it brings me

0:57:40.320 --> 0:57:46.080
<v Speaker 1>back to being on a hundred and avalon and and

0:57:46.080 --> 0:57:52.560
<v Speaker 1>and sitting there watching football and and and knowing, you know,

0:57:52.640 --> 0:57:54.919
<v Speaker 1>being on the West coast. Bro. You know, I wake

0:57:55.000 --> 0:57:58.920
<v Speaker 1>up nine o'clock games are on and and seeing these

0:57:58.960 --> 0:58:05.120
<v Speaker 1>players you know, Bow Jackson, Tim Brown, but Brian Mitchell,

0:58:05.800 --> 0:58:10.760
<v Speaker 1>those quote unquote little guys that had a being impacked

0:58:10.800 --> 0:58:14.640
<v Speaker 1>in the game, right and and and that's who you were.

0:58:14.800 --> 0:58:17.720
<v Speaker 1>You were that guy that I kind of looked at

0:58:17.760 --> 0:58:22.120
<v Speaker 1>it like, I hope I can do that. You damn

0:58:22.120 --> 0:58:27.080
<v Speaker 1>sure did. You damn sure did, man. And And that's

0:58:27.160 --> 0:58:30.360
<v Speaker 1>look I I I appreciate you just telling me that,

0:58:30.400 --> 0:58:33.160
<v Speaker 1>because watching the way that you played is always that

0:58:33.160 --> 0:58:37.440
<v Speaker 1>they made me happy, dude, because I I love seeing

0:58:37.480 --> 0:58:40.320
<v Speaker 1>guys who go out there and you know, they're serious

0:58:40.360 --> 0:58:43.360
<v Speaker 1>about their business, but they have fun doing their job. Yeah,

0:58:43.800 --> 0:58:46.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, a lot of guys don't have fun. You

0:58:46.600 --> 0:58:49.479
<v Speaker 1>were those guys that I watched. You're those guys y'all

0:58:49.520 --> 0:58:52.840
<v Speaker 1>punished people. And so I grew up with the narrative

0:58:52.960 --> 0:58:57.080
<v Speaker 1>based on my grandma. My grandpa taught me was those

0:58:57.080 --> 0:58:58.760
<v Speaker 1>are the people you have to play like if you

0:58:58.800 --> 0:59:01.160
<v Speaker 1>want to make it, that's what you gotta play like.

0:59:02.920 --> 0:59:05.760
<v Speaker 1>And and so even though I played in a different era,

0:59:06.800 --> 0:59:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I played like the players that I watched. And those

0:59:10.000 --> 0:59:15.120
<v Speaker 1>players that I watched there were no nonsense. They they

0:59:15.760 --> 0:59:21.400
<v Speaker 1>as we say, they played for keeps it. So thank you. UM,

0:59:21.520 --> 0:59:24.440
<v Speaker 1>very blessed to be able to talk to you. UM,

0:59:24.480 --> 0:59:30.720
<v Speaker 1>in my mind, one of the great UM, A legacy builder, UM,

0:59:30.720 --> 0:59:34.560
<v Speaker 1>a tone setter, and man, uh, we appreciate your time,

0:59:34.640 --> 0:59:44.760
<v Speaker 1>dog Steve, appreciate you all. So I know we were

0:59:44.760 --> 0:59:49.400
<v Speaker 1>talking during this interview Smithy on most embarrassing TV moments,

0:59:49.600 --> 0:59:53.240
<v Speaker 1>and I just so happened to uh, to pull yours.

0:59:53.800 --> 0:59:56.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna play this clip real quick and then we'll love.

0:59:56.280 --> 1:00:00.640
<v Speaker 1>We'll break this bad boy down, change something up, because

1:00:00.920 --> 1:00:04.640
<v Speaker 1>they haven't been the greatest a franchise, uh since obviously,

1:00:04.800 --> 1:00:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Damn Dann REMI uh, Dan, I can't even speak right now. Man,

1:00:14.080 --> 1:00:17.880
<v Speaker 1>it's terrible. I mean, well, I'm not laughing. I'm not

1:00:17.960 --> 1:00:20.600
<v Speaker 1>laughing at you. I'm laughing. I'm laughing with you. I

1:00:20.720 --> 1:00:25.120
<v Speaker 1>wasn't laughing. I was sweating so bad and I was

1:00:25.160 --> 1:00:29.640
<v Speaker 1>at the house. Yeah, I was embarrassed. So I guess

1:00:29.640 --> 1:00:31.920
<v Speaker 1>it's fair to say that's that's probably your most embarrassing

1:00:32.040 --> 1:00:38.680
<v Speaker 1>TV moment by far right. Yeah, Dann Marino, of course

1:00:38.720 --> 1:00:40.800
<v Speaker 1>you know it now. But in the moment with the

1:00:40.880 --> 1:00:43.640
<v Speaker 1>lights on and being on national TV, I mean, just

1:00:43.880 --> 1:00:48.040
<v Speaker 1>just get you get stuck like chunk her her on

1:00:48.160 --> 1:00:51.960
<v Speaker 1>a struggle bus rank I was I was driver and

1:00:52.560 --> 1:00:57.400
<v Speaker 1>in the front seat. It was terrible, man, but hey,

1:00:57.440 --> 1:01:03.800
<v Speaker 1>you bounce back. When you do, you're a heck of

1:01:03.840 --> 1:01:06.520
<v Speaker 1>an end. Listen. We got a chance to talk to Brian. Definitely,

1:01:06.560 --> 1:01:08.520
<v Speaker 1>he gave us so many nuggets on you know, his

1:01:08.920 --> 1:01:12.080
<v Speaker 1>on his outlooks, what he's been able to do in

1:01:12.120 --> 1:01:16.040
<v Speaker 1>the television industry. And we were blessed to be in

1:01:16.120 --> 1:01:18.840
<v Speaker 1>some good company during that interview. We were and I

1:01:19.240 --> 1:01:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why, I got all emotional and got

1:01:22.000 --> 1:01:26.640
<v Speaker 1>all I got tear, man, I mean, I feel you.

1:01:26.960 --> 1:01:29.720
<v Speaker 1>It was definitely. Uh. I shared the same sentiment my

1:01:29.720 --> 1:01:33.760
<v Speaker 1>my grandfather. It is by far the most impactful man

1:01:33.800 --> 1:01:36.320
<v Speaker 1>I've ever met in my life. And some of the

1:01:36.360 --> 1:01:39.240
<v Speaker 1>things he instilled to me, being a man of character,

1:01:39.280 --> 1:01:43.120
<v Speaker 1>being a man of integrity, like leading with that it's

1:01:43.160 --> 1:01:46.640
<v Speaker 1>something that you know, I never waiver on that, and

1:01:46.760 --> 1:01:49.280
<v Speaker 1>it's just I can I can hear him. He passed

1:01:49.280 --> 1:01:53.240
<v Speaker 1>away when I was thirteen, but I remember vividly conversations

1:01:53.280 --> 1:01:56.160
<v Speaker 1>from when I was five six seven. I mean, just

1:01:56.240 --> 1:02:00.360
<v Speaker 1>the impact him being a policeman, him being the business owner,

1:02:00.440 --> 1:02:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Like there's just so many things he put in me

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<v Speaker 1>that man, I I give my right on to hear

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<v Speaker 1>his voice again. I can tell you right now, what's

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<v Speaker 1>crazy is uh all this stuff he put in me.

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<v Speaker 1>I can care less about it. I just, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just sometimes want that. I just want to hear. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's it's crazy because talking to Brian. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what it triggered, but I just, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just hearing how impactful his dad was onto him and

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<v Speaker 1>what it was. You know what's crazy is I lost

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<v Speaker 1>my grandfather like two weeks. It was like a week

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<v Speaker 1>and a half into November, and I got a call

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<v Speaker 1>that he went to the hospital and and my family

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<v Speaker 1>is on the East West coast and I'm on the

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<v Speaker 1>East coast, so I gotta call, like we were doing

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<v Speaker 1>our body week, I gotta call on like Thursday. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like Wednesday and Thursday Friday morning he was gone

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<v Speaker 1>and he had My grandfather had cancer of the liver.

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<v Speaker 1>He got diagnosed. Um. He went to the VA because

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<v Speaker 1>he was a vetter. And when he got diagnosed, he

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<v Speaker 1>said cool and he walked out of hospital and he

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<v Speaker 1>never went again. He was on the steps and fell

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<v Speaker 1>down the steps. She passed out because he had it

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<v Speaker 1>had spread to his lungs and it flew it on

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<v Speaker 1>his lungs. And when he went into the hospital, just

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<v Speaker 1>like my grandpa, the g that he was, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>how long am I gonna be in there? Unfortunately he

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<v Speaker 1>passed like the next day. I'm messim, you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>a man gets cancer diagnosed, he don't say a word.

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<v Speaker 1>He just kept going to really he could until they

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't go anymore. So for me, man, it's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>hope I'm close at all. Oh man, you're definitely close.

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<v Speaker 1>You you have arrived and nah, but yeah you're worse.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta you gotta, you gotta receive it. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>receive it. And so you trust me. He's looking down,

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<v Speaker 1>he's proud. Both our grandfathers are proud. And you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>hold your head up and know that you are walking

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<v Speaker 1>and everything that he put in you appreciate it. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's still messim, you know. Cut to It with Steve

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