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Speaker 2: is Saturday, June twenty four and we are talking about

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Speaker 2: the NBA Draft, all the trades, and we will be

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Speaker 2: the off season with Chris Paul headed to the Warriors.

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Speaker 2: as always Jenkins Jones hosted by Dragonfly Jones aka Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, have a good le.

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Speaker 2: Jethrow Jenkins aka John was that Bubbles. I'm Guardy b

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Speaker 4: Mother mother fucking fuck Mike, mother fuck.

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Speaker 5: Back when we was giving you all one podcast every

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Speaker 2: Tyler's got more wake up juice in him right now

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Speaker 2: than the other three people on this record combined. Also,

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Speaker 2: it is it is like just g PM. It's like GPM.

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Speaker 2: It's two PM for Tyler right now.

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Speaker 5: Basically, Bro, I'm on a fucking night owl. Y'all see my.

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Speaker 4: Tweets is does does summer stab light like that?

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Speaker 5: Hell on? No, okay, she goes to better like ten,

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Speaker 5: ten thirty and shit.

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Speaker 4: Like, oh man, she's yeah, she's disciplined.

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Speaker 2: You you bring Are you comfortable breaking your sleep cycle

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Speaker 2: down for the listeners? And I honestly do feel like

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Speaker 2: this is like a big part of your like Twitter life,

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Speaker 2: be like Tyler got six hilarious tweets off while I

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Speaker 2: was asleep and he's on the East Coast, Like.

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Speaker 6: Bro, after word, it's not a lord of word, what's

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Speaker 6: the word? It's part of your It's like folk lore.

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Speaker 4: Lord lord, it's part of my lord. There we go, Yeah, part.

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Speaker 5: Of my lord, my lead. But no, it's like ever

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Speaker 5: since I went to college, like I just haven't needed sleep. Dog,

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Speaker 5: Like I just sleep like four or five hours a night,

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Speaker 5: three am, waking up like you know, fucking eight seven.

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Speaker 5: So like it is.

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Speaker 6: High school, like you did at sleep like this in

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Speaker 6: high school. This wasn't an all the time thing.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, high school, I was, you know,

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Speaker 5: waking up fucking seven o'clock every morning and shit. So

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Speaker 5: so yeah, so so like I was, I was getting

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Speaker 5: exacted in a bit. But ye ever since college, bro,

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Speaker 5: what the fuck is sleep?

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Speaker 2: It's sleep, man, I just I just want to be

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Speaker 2: Like I just want to I known, you know, Tyler

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Speaker 2: long time. This is truly seven days a week, three

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Speaker 2: One of the reasons our digital friendship has worked so

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Speaker 2: well is John and I will be texting at eleven PM.

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Speaker 2: Tyler will be responding at two am his time. Right

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Speaker 2: the way, clean, crazy, all right, big day NBA draft tonight.

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Speaker 2: I'm such a sucker for drafts. I'm such a sucker

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Speaker 2: for kids and their moms and the fucking dreams coming

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Speaker 2: true and the dad's fighting back tears. I love all

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Speaker 2: that shit. Not you know, the NBA not necessarily the

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Speaker 2: most drama filled draft as usual. I was surprised that

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Speaker 2: Scoot didn't go second. You know that they went with

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean I called me hello, off guard? Like

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Speaker 6: I thought Brandon Miller was good, and I thought he

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Speaker 4: And I basically hadn't seen any of them.

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Speaker 6: Play, you know what I mean. Like Wemby do we

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Speaker 6: nobody saw him play? You know what I'm saying. Brandon Miller,

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Speaker 6: we saw him played Alabama, he played College College, but

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Speaker 6: Why do you even watch overtime Elite games? Like are

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Speaker 4: You know? Not really let me you know, we can't,

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Speaker 4: we didn't. We can't really see school, you know what

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Speaker 2: Let me let me run through the top penn the

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Speaker 2: put their college Wemby France, Brandon Miller, Alabama, Okay, Scoot USA,

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Speaker 2: So like, I would bet as the NBA does everything

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Speaker 2: would bet the NBA is gonna start making it a

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Speaker 2: a great point, bro, Like, yeah, I've seen film on

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Speaker 6: You know what about the tops of twins, I haven't

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Speaker 4: Period, nobody's watching ot games, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 6: And then like we saw, we saw Wimby and School

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Speaker 4: So, like the person you've seen the most is Brandon Miller,

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Speaker 4: And you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Man, it was just that's that's the only person in

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Speaker 6: the top five that I've seen play basketball live for

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Speaker 6: you know, where I could really say, like this player

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Speaker 5: So, yeah, you know, there was a time back when

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Speaker 5: I was heavily tapped into college ball, in the time

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Speaker 5: when college ball was the main mill to the NBA,

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Speaker 5: and I would know damn near every player that got drafted.

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Speaker 6: On drafts, right, yes, but but the second round players

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Speaker 6: you've seen, you know, yeah, you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, But tonight, bro, Like now, I mean it's

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Speaker 5: you know, going back to what y'all said, it's it's

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Speaker 5: like college ball just isn't the main mill anymore. There's EuroLeague,

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Speaker 5: there's you know, pro non NBA leagues that these dudes

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Speaker 2: All right, we've had a couple land. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't know you guys have any other thoughts on

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Speaker 2: Wemby is like obviously the big story out of it,

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Speaker 2: But I don't think there's any new Oh here's a

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Speaker 2: holding the baseball?

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Speaker 5: Incredible?

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Speaker 2: No fingers around the ship twice like you.

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Speaker 8: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: We're touching his palm out holding a base.

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Speaker 2: Like John, if you just put your hand up and

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Speaker 6: You had to tell They had to tell you there

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Speaker 4: In there, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, money, somebody

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Speaker 4: asked I was doing the op live joint, you know,

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Speaker 4: like that for the first five six picks. Nobody else

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Speaker 6: It's one of them type of drafts. You know they're saying,

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Speaker 6: is when it was a good question, is Wimby a

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Speaker 2: Like top ten of all time? Yes, I'm just automatically

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Speaker 2: gonna say no about any player just off the statistical probability,

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Speaker 6: What I mean, fact that that's even asked. I know,

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Speaker 6: like the only player that we've ever really expected out of.

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Speaker 4: You know, is Lebron and he did it right, you

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Speaker 6: I think there's for me, there's way more questions about Wimby,

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Speaker 6: maybe because I haven't seen him as much. You know,

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Speaker 6: we were seeing I saw Bron play ten times before

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Speaker 6: he got to the to the to the NBA, you

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Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, just from the high school games

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Speaker 6: that were televised something like that. It was a number

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Speaker 6: a good good amount of time to seen.

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Speaker 4: Like maybe five.

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Speaker 6: But anyway, like I mean, it's just like, is he

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Speaker 6: gonna be better than Tim Duncan, Like if he's better

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Speaker 6: than Timmy, that's a feat, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 6: He's what seven eighth best player in the history of that,

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Speaker 6: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: That's like yeah, And I don't personally think it's like

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Speaker 2: it sucks. I understand why we do it, but it sucks, like.

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Speaker 6: The kid, but almost impossible it is to be top

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Speaker 6: ten effort.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's impossible. It's impossible to get a second

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Speaker 2: contract in the NBA.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: Like if he's if he's better than David Robinson, good

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Speaker 6: for him, you know what I mean? And where's David

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Speaker 6: Robinson in the top fifth top you know one hundred players?

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: Like, I don't know, man, I honestly think Scott's the

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Speaker 5: limit for this kid, bro, Like, we have never seen

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Speaker 5: anything like this dude. Man seven foot five can handle

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Speaker 5: like a fucking six foot five guy. Did y'all hear

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think like the to me, that's the

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Speaker 2: Those fucking Frankenstein arms.

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Speaker 6: I think that's a healthy way to put it, though,

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Speaker 6: Tyler like saying, you know, Sky's the limit.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Sky's a limit, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 6: He just just happened to, you know, surpass that shit,

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Speaker 6: I mean, if he does, if he moves the same

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, that's a very different frame.

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Speaker 6: I mean the frame we saw Yanna's have when he

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Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I don't you know, I know about that bro.

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Speaker 4: He looks like I didn't see it. No, I didn't see.

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Speaker 2: He's anybody has shoulders like everybody doesn't have room.

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Speaker 6: KAD has shoulders like if you would if you see

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Speaker 6: You feel me like his My my shoulders are like

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Speaker 4: You feel me. He's seven fucking foot and I had

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Speaker 6: I gotta wear Xcel shirt at five eleven, nigga because

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Speaker 4: But like, you know, he has shoulders.

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Speaker 6: But I you know, I just I think all dudes

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Speaker 4: But I mean if I didn't, I didn't nobody saw.

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Speaker 2: You saw that, No, I didn't see. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 4: I don't see it.

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Speaker 4: I felt like you.

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Speaker 2: Could see it and you can see it with his arms.

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Speaker 4: He was wiry. He was wiry. Yeah, but but yeah,

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Speaker 2: Anyway, we'll see, we'll see. I mean, I'm excited. I'll

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Speaker 2: We're gonna bring Jackson on to talk about Marcus Smart anyway.

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Speaker 2: But you know, Jackson says something. I think it's like

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Speaker 2: But that is part of it, right, Like it is

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Speaker 2: He can stand literally flat footed and grab the rim like,

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Speaker 2: I feel like, I don't know if you're if you've

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Speaker 1: Jackson, Well, I agree with you, and I'm more comfortable

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Speaker 1: with it because Wemby is looks like he could be

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Speaker 4: It's cool.

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Speaker 1: He's a ginormous human being who is amazing at basketball,

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Speaker 1: But like Wemby like might be a god amongst gods.

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Speaker 4: Well, I hope he does.

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Speaker 6: I hope that the hell thing isn't an issue. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Maybe if that.

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Speaker 4: I think he has to put on some muscle. But

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Speaker 6: But like you said, because he's big enough and tall

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Speaker 2: But there's also that, you know, I think there's a

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Speaker 2: That's just the nineteen seventies way of seeing stuff. If

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that I think that I like about Wemby

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Speaker 1: He like is at least he's very aware of like

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Speaker 1: I know that I'm an alien. I'm going to learn

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Speaker 6: He's taking full of the advantage of being an alien

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Speaker 6: basketball or not, Bro, because you know there can be

438
00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,760
Speaker 6: some issues with you being that tall, justin life.

439
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,119
Speaker 2: He's writing the Owner's Manual for that body. Yeah, like

440
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,480
Speaker 2: there's no one he can turn to and say, how

441
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,639
Speaker 2: do I operate with this body in the NBA? No

442
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:16,880
Speaker 2: one's ever done it before, So.

443
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,240
Speaker 4: Just got to rely on science, Bro Hope.

444
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:23,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you feel me? Science? Prayer and hope.

445
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:23,880
Speaker 4: I don't know.

446
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,879
Speaker 2: To two big trades to talk about this week. First

447
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:37,120
Speaker 2: and foremost, a variety of feelings on this Zoom recording

448
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:43,919
Speaker 2: about Marcus Smart departing the Celtics. Jackson the Florida is yours.

449
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 2: I know you're very sad about this. I'm not sad.

450
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,440
Speaker 2: I'm I'm not quite happy that you're sad, but I'm

451
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:50,159
Speaker 2: not sad about it.

452
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,680
Speaker 1: I would put it, I am sad it was originally

453
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 1: the deal was originally going to be Brogdon.

454
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,120
Speaker 3: Obviously that fell through.

455
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 8: And while I very much like Malcolm Brogden's I don't

456
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,680
Speaker 8: have a strong emotional attachment to the guys from the

457
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:02,400
Speaker 8: team for one year.

458
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 1: Whereas Marcus Smart as the longest.

459
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Speaker 8: Tenured Celtic, he hasn't been on the team since for

460
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 8: like ten years now, and.

461
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 2: He thought he was going to retire.

462
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 4: There, I thought he was a lot.

463
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 3: He thought he was gonna retire.

464
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Speaker 1: There I thought he thought he I mean, there's a

465
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 1: lot of trade talks, you never know, but it felt

466
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 1: like he could have been a lifer. And I as

467
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,639
Speaker 1: I've been talking about it with people, I've only been

468
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 1: able to talk in sports cliches. But it is true

469
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 1: that he was very much like the heart and soul

470
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 1: of the team. He was the emotional heartbeat that all

471
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,919
Speaker 1: that shit right, it's it's actually true with him, and

472
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 1: so it's hard. And so when you combine that with

473
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Speaker 1: the fact that he is the longest tenured player, it's

474
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 1: been on the team for ten years. He's basically was

475
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,440
Speaker 1: the one who got them back into the playoffs after

476
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 1: this weird low post Big three. Uh, and it's just

477
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 1: it just bums me out, Like from like a basketball

478
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 1: stay point, I'm like, man, what are they gonna, How

479
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 1: are they gonna who's got the energy, guy, who's the motivator,

480
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 1: who's all like all those things too? But just from

481
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,120
Speaker 1: like a I don't like get this like sports team

482
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 1: very often anymore. I think working in sports has like

483
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:05,880
Speaker 1: made me a little bit jaded in that sense. I'm

484
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 1: not like the raw rah I'm going to defend my

485
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 1: team until I die person, But I am like a

486
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 1: little bit sad about it. I'm like, man, this guy

487
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 1: has been part of my life quote unquote as like

488
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 1: a fan of this team for.

489
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Speaker 4: Half of it. You're only like, what eighteen more than life?

490
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:21,159
Speaker 7: No?

491
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 2: But he genuinely like when did he sign with the team?

492
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:24,880
Speaker 2: And you're in high school? Right?

493
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

494
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was graduating high school.

495
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Speaker 8: I think twenty fourteen.

496
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Speaker 1: It is twenty fourteen, I believe, Uh, I don't, that

497
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 1: might be wrong, but he he's he's been such a

498
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:40,400
Speaker 1: fixture in my entertainment consuming life that it's really it's it's.

499
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Speaker 3: Sad that he has to sleep.

500
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 4: And also you're.

501
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 2: Gonna hit puberty and start noticing girls, bro, and you

502
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 2: won't worry about Marcus Smart.

503
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Speaker 6: But he's been a part of he's been a part

504
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 6: of like the basketball team for what for of your life?

505
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, yeah, would you guys?

506
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 4: Was twenty five? Do you want? Right?

507
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 3: Twenty seven?

508
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 4: Okay? Okay? So close? It's like thirty eight point five.

509
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: It also doesn't help the fact that the player that

510
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 1: they're bringing back for this, like gritty heart and soul

511
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 1: of the team player is Christaps who is by a

512
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: lot of measures like a good basketball player, but not

513
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 1: exactly like the beacon of like toughness and physicality and

514
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 1: defensive or consistency or consistency, and so it just it

515
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: doesn't feel I get why.

516
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 4: It feels cheap. It feels cheap, bro.

517
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 3: It sucks.

518
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 1: I get after the way the playoffs ended, like you

519
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,120
Speaker 1: had to do make a change, and that was either

520
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 1: going to be the coach or the roster. And they

521
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: did not want to change the coach for whatever reason.

522
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Speaker 8: That's fine.

523
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: They made that decision, so they had to make a roster.

524
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 2: Well, when you have a chance to hang on to

525
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 2: a guy who was widely viewed as the worst coach

526
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. You got to jump on that chance.

527
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 5: It's twenty twenty three.

528
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: We're trying to monopolize gumballs in the Greater Boston area.

529
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm bums couldn't work out absolutely from

530
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: a team perspective, and I'll still be bumped, that's true.

531
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 1: I'm just sad that he's not on the team Anymoremphis.

532
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 5: Too, bro like.

533
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 3: Great fit.

534
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's that's a really good fit there. I

535
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 5: feel like I feel like part of this is due

536
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 5: to Job being a fucking dumb ass and they're like, bro,

537
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 5: we don't have a point guard for twenty five.

538
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 4: Games, like right for sure? For sure?

539
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,919
Speaker 5: But yeah, you know, I feel what you said. Like

540
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 5: Marcus Smart himself said he was blindsided by this shit.

541
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 5: He said he wanted to retire a Celtics so yeah,

542
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 5: and the Celtics just posted like some hustle and heart.

543
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 5: Marcus Smart posts like fucking seven hours before they dealt

544
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 5: the guys. That's a dirty fucking game, doog.

545
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 9: I feel like Marcus Smart was as loved as a

546
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 9: Celtics player who is black can be by that fan base,

547
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 9: you know what I'm saying, Like, Yeah, I mean, you

548
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 9: know what I mean, like dye his hair green in

549
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 9: the playoffs.

550
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 6: You know why right, because he plays dirty, gritty right right, right, right,

551
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying.

552
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 4: But like, yeah, but I.

553
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 6: It feels like like it feels like you know, y'all,

554
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 6: I know y'all have seen this where like a dude

555
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 6: comes into the league with a c chick that like,

556
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 6: you know, play he grew up with, play basketball, attractive woman, right,

557
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 6: but then swaps it for like a you know, a

558
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 6: build a.

559
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 4: Batty, you know what I mean. That's what it feels like.

560
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 4: It's why it feels cheap.

561
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 6: It's like, man, like, I know she you know what

562
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 6: you're supposed to do in quotations, you know they as

563
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,239
Speaker 6: an NBA player. But my nigga, you had a real win.

564
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 6: You feel me you had what you truly needed here.

565
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 6: Now you just gotta you know, you gotta you know,

566
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 6: a doctor Miami joint. You feel me like, good for you,

567
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,239
Speaker 6: I guess, but you know, I don't know.

568
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,199
Speaker 2: I like I grant that the you know, I've got

569
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 2: a lot of respect for Brad Stevens and like the

570
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 2: way the Celtics have put their team together. And I

571
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 2: was definitely like if I were a Celtics fan. We

572
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 2: talked about this after they lost. I would be in

573
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 2: favor of, like keep keep running it back, like you're

574
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 2: good enough to get to the conference finals, Like running

575
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 2: back to what he has like one years the other teams,

576
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 2: the one that has the injury or whatever. Like I'm

577
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 2: a big fan of, like stay consistently competing until the

578
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,479
Speaker 2: until you know, the window closes. So but I have

579
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 2: to say, just I totally don't get this, Like I

580
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,239
Speaker 2: just don't get how you looked at that team and

581
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 2: said that they had too much of Marcus Smart's intangibles.

582
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 6: I just you know what I mean, like or that

583
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,360
Speaker 6: Chris STAPs was the person that was going to get

584
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 6: them over the hunt.

585
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 2: Like I don't get either aspect of that of that viewpoint,

586
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: you know. And I don't see I don't see how

587
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 2: you looked at Jason Tatum and thought he needs less

588
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 2: Marcus Smart around him, you know what I mean. It

589
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 2: just seems to me like this has the chance to

590
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 2: be a move that feels like it's nibbling around the edges,

591
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 2: but that actually kind of pulls the center out of

592
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 2: the whole thing. You know that that's the way. And

593
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 2: I could tell from Jackson's merp face that he might

594
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 2: feel the same. He was doing the white guy Never

595
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: seen Jackson with the white guy face before he was he.

596
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 4: Was doing the smile from they're trying to smile but they're.

597
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: Front and Tatum stuff as well, and also like just

598
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 1: from a basketball to him point. Marcus Smart, while not

599
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: thought of as like a true point guard facilitator type,

600
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: very talented passer career high six point three assists last

601
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: year for your he's by far the team's best passer.

602
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: Their two best players are like average passers, and you

603
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: take out their best passer to bring in Kris STAPs Porzingis,

604
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 1: and we were like, man, that offense has no flow

605
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 1: at the end of the season, right, got nothing. It's

606
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: just like give the ball to a player and less

607
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: if they if they can make it happen, well, what

608
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: the fuck are they gonna do about? Like that's not

609
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: getting any better?

610
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 6: I Mean, the thing is like the if they played

611
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 6: a game of one on one, Chris STAPs would win easy, right, But.

612
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,080
Speaker 4: It's like like it it.

613
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 6: Seems like the idea of Christaps is better than Marcus Smart,

614
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 6: not like in the actual basket. In this on this

615
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 6: basketball team, you know, like the fit just doesn't make

616
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 6: any sense to me.

617
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 4: Like you know, oh, let's add Kristaps. You know what

618
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 4: I'm saying, but it just doesn't make any sense.

619
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 6: I will see if it works, you know, Like you know,

620
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 6: Brad Stevens knows more about basketball than I'll ever know

621
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 6: in ten lifetimes.

622
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

623
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 6: But it just I don't know, Bro, I feel like

624
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 6: they got it wrong this time. And I think a

625
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 6: lot of people feel that way too. People they don't

626
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 6: even fuck with Boston probably like.

627
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 4: This just feels nasty, you know what I mean. It's crazy,

628
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 4: all right.

629
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 2: It's our pleasure to welcome on after I would guess

630
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 2: one of the longer work days of the year. Marcus Thompson,

631
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 2: the second of the athletic, here to help us break

632
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 2: down the crazy day for the Warriors. Marcus, thanks for

633
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 2: hopping on with.

634
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 3: Us, Yo, this is your fault, low key.

635
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 5: Cut it out, man. I mean, as Las haters, we

636
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 5: want Jordan Pool on that roster. Bro, you can't put

637
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 5: this on us.

638
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 3: Think about this though, man, Like five years ago you

639
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 3: would have told me, Yo, Chris Paul would be on

640
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 3: the Warriors. We might have rioted at the thought of it,

641
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 3: like we would have been in the streets at the

642
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 3: very thought of it, Like remember in twenty eighteen with

643
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 3: me when he was shimmy and back at Steph. Right,

644
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 3: you'd have never thought, you know what I'm saying, Like

645
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 3: it was like beef. But man, Mace is now on

646
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 3: death bro and CD three is now with the Warriors.

647
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 3: I don't know what. I don't know what's going on.

648
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 6: He was basically Chris stepping stone into like basically Curry

649
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 6: steppingstone in the greatness, like when he crossed him up

650
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 6: on that baseline, you know what I mean? That was

651
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 6: like the old Steph as a ride my boy, Like

652
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 6: Steph is here?

653
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 4: You feel me?

654
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,479
Speaker 5: Like had that man looked like Eddie from teching out there?

655
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 5: That was That was when we were like Steph, step

656
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 5: might be.

657
00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 4: Different right right right? But Mike, I.

658
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 5: Think as someone who's on it on the trenches in

659
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 5: those locker rooms, you know, ground zero with it, like

660
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 5: how how did it hit you? Like I think all

661
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 5: of us were blind sided about it?

662
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 3: Right, Oh, I didn't see this coming at all, Like

663
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 3: there's been talk about Chris Paul, but like for Jordan

664
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 3: Poole was wild. That's number one like you just gave

665
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 3: up a twenty four year old for a thirty eight

666
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 3: year old. Like when has the age difference been plus

667
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,479
Speaker 3: fourteen in NBA history? You know what I'm saying, Like

668
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 3: that's that's a wild thought right there. But I always

669
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 3: thought that it was just something that couldn't go down,

670
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 3: you know, Like, but the truth of the matter is them,

671
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 3: dude's getting old, man, and when you when you thirty plus,

672
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 3: like you ain't tripping off what was the case of

673
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 3: twenty eight and like that to be is where it's

674
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 3: like I respect it. It's you know, they owe his

675
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 3: now they pioneers, and again they don't need to be

676
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 3: beefing like it was stop anyway, it would just been

677
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 3: like a sit down on NBA TV in ten years,

678
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Like, But but to me,

679
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 3: the crazy part about this is Chris Paul has always

680
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 3: been like a standard bearer for Steph. Like he's always

681
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 3: been that uh, he's always been like this inspirational figure.

682
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 3: And like you said, like Chris Paul was the bar

683
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 3: Steph had to clear, Like there's always been this level

684
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 3: of respect. I remember when I was writing a book,

685
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: like just going to Charlotte, Like, we don't think about

686
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 3: this because they stars by the time we get to

687
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 3: know him. But like when Steph was a freshman, like

688
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 3: Chris Paul was the man out here, Like he was

689
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 3: a parade all American. He was making that, you know.

690
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 3: So it's a freshman dude at some private school Charlotte

691
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 3: Christian Like, yo, like we looking up the same way.

692
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 3: When I was coming up, Jason Kidd was the man

693
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 3: out here, so it was like, all right, like we

694
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 3: all know who Jason Kidd is. So Chris Paul was

695
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 3: that for him. And then you get to he gets drafted.

696
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 3: He kicking it withst the Sailor. You know. I don't

697
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 3: know how many times the Curry's been to West the Salem,

698
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 3: but they was kicking it, you know, and he took

699
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 3: him under his wing, so you kind of see that progression.

700
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 3: But once he hit him with that.

701
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 4: Bop right immediately.

702
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 3: So it's crazy that they just found the space to

703
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 3: be like yo, like, man, we're supposed to be tight anyway,

704
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 3: so we might as well link up for a title.

705
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, was do you think this was something that I mean,

706
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 6: Jordan Poole kind of wanted.

707
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 4: I know, he probably didn't.

708
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 6: I don't know how he felt about being on the

709
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 6: team with Draymond continuously being there after what happened, you know,

710
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 6: but like he was just last.

711
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 4: Year, we were thinking he was the future.

712
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 6: He was, you know he after Stephan them left, he

713
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 6: was gonna carry that, you know what I mean, carry

714
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 6: the squad.

715
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 4: He's gonna be the future of the words. How do

716
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 4: you think you looking at that?

717
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 3: I think initially it was tough, but I do think

718
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: he like he ain't mad. He gets his own team.

719
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 3: He don't have to be around a dude who punched him, right,

720
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 3: he don't have to do that whole Let's act like

721
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 3: we could. But also, like to be honest, I think

722
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 3: the bigger issue because I do think they got to

723
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 3: a point where they could play and it was you know,

724
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 3: it was never gonna be like it was, but it

725
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 3: wasn't like that. To me, The bigger issue was, here's

726
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 3: the dude who was about to be making thirty million.

727
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 3: Whenever somebody was hurt, he played his best, Like he

728
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 3: starting you get him thirty minutes, he's starting like he

729
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 3: averages twenty five as a starter, like carrying like they

730
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 3: eighteen to two in clay Out when with with Steph Out,

731
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 3: he like carrying the team. So he looking at this like, man,

732
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 3: hold on, like you know, I'm doing the thing. I'm

733
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 3: carrying us in moments, but then when they come, I

734
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 3: got to go back to the bench. So I don't

735
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 3: think that was the easy situation for him at all.

736
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 3: So that's kind of out the way. I mean, it's

737
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 3: gotta be tough because like one kingdom was gonna be

738
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 3: go to State and now the other one is the Wizards.

739
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 3: So it's you know what I'm saying, It's like there's

740
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 3: probably an al in there somewhere, but you know what

741
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,959
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like Jeoffrey Jeffer was like, Yo, you got

742
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 3: all this and now you've got queens. You feel me like,

743
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 3: but but it's one of them situations where it's like

744
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 3: but it's mine though, Like he'll get unlimited shots, you'll

745
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 3: get the show what he can do, right, Like, he'll

746
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 3: get the freedom to do it, and we'll see if

747
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 3: he can do it when it's not like the fifteen

748
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 3: game stretch while somebody hurt, Like we'll see if he

749
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 3: can do it full time. H It's gonna be one

750
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 3: of them situations. We see this in the league all

751
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 3: the time. We ain't go hear about Jordan Pooh until

752
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 3: we do something crazy, end up on Sports Center, and

753
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 3: they're gonna be like, hey, yo, he nice. Then you're

754
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 3: gonna look at his numbers. He's gonna be average in

755
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 3: twenty four he's gonna be all. You're gonna be like, hey,

756
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 3: man'all sleep on Jordan Pooh. It really missed on them

757
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 3: right right, But it'll be like Bradley Beal and then.

758
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 2: Exactly like Bradley Beal exactly like like, yo.

759
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 3: He done, and then he gonna get to a team

760
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 3: where he could win. Like that's gonna be the trajectory.

761
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,439
Speaker 3: If he somehow turned the Wizards into something, though, then

762
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 3: then it was a problem because then they just gave

763
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 3: up the Steph Curry air apparent for like Chris Paul

764
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 3: like that.

765
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 4: That's specially what they were.

766
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's especially what they were, like, you know when

767
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 6: they signed that deal, that's what we thought he was

768
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 6: gonna be.

769
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 3: You feel me, But you know, we all watched the playoffs,

770
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 3: we did, and I was a bit. I was a

771
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 3: bit I'm you know, I like cool. I think his

772
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 3: game is good. I think he's just one of those

773
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 3: some players, Man, they just got that little extra like

774
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 3: when you kind of just got to deal with what

775
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 3: they don't do because they do what other people don't do.

776
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: Like he got that like it's all good, say he

777
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 3: don't he don't play defense, he's turned the ball over,

778
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 3: but he'll hit you with thirty, right, So if you

779
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 3: could figure out the other stuff, Like everybody ain't just

780
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 3: dropping thirty in the playoffs right in Memphis on the road, right,

781
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: So it's like figuring out other stuff.

782
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 4: So I do like it.

783
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 3: But we did watch the playoffs, like right, you know

784
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 3: what I'm saying it like it happened like it's hard

785
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 3: to I could see why they're like we thought you

786
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 3: would be the air parent.

787
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, but whatever.

788
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 3: Percentage we thought is definitely lower now. So we might

789
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 3: as well just lean in to Steph Curry right now?

790
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 5: How much how much of them partning ways with Jordan

791
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 5: because you know, like you mentioned, you know, he's stunk

792
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 5: it up this postseason. I remember after Game three against

793
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 5: the Lakers when he had like ten minutes, right and

794
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 5: he was visibly distraught at that end, and the homie

795
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 5: Kareth Burke shots to caret. She gave us that incredible

796
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 5: rundown of when they were in the locker room and

797
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 5: they were talking to him, if y'all remember that, and

798
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,959
Speaker 5: he said something on the lines of you know, Carrot

799
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 5: asked him, you know, we know you're confident. You know,

800
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 5: we know you got a great shot, but but you

801
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 5: know what's going on with you? You know, why are

802
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 5: you slumping right now? And he basically said, you know,

803
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 5: my shot still there, my confidence is still there. The

804
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 5: opportunities aren't And when I heard that, I was like, bro,

805
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 5: Like I knew he's going to be on thin ice right,

806
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 5: Like Like there were times where you just saw the

807
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 5: Warriors were so frustrated with them. Like there was a

808
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 5: moment when when he took a bad shot and Draymond

809
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 5: just walked back on defense. There was a time he

810
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 5: took a bad shot and Steph just lost it and

811
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 5: like threw his mouth. He's he took both those dudes

812
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 5: out their character. He made the calm dude lose it

813
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 5: and the hot head you know, go.

814
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 3: Call step got ejected for that, right, that was wild.

815
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said he said that ship in the locker

816
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 2: room about the opportunities weren't there. You just saw Draymond

817
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 2: in the back like popping a can of spinach into

818
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 2: his mouth like Popeye. You know what I mean, I

819
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 2: gotta let it back out.

820
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 5: So my question is is, Marcus, you know how much

821
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 5: of this do you think is them saying this is

822
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 5: just a guy who's not going to buy into Warriors

823
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 5: basketball and we just got to move.

824
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 3: I mean, I do think part of it was like

825
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 3: his speed at essentially embrace him, but they what they

826
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 3: needed him to be, and it's tough, man. I don't

827
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 3: really slight Jordan's I do feel like they needed somebody

828
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 3: to buy in. I mean, Steph is given any given

829
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 3: Sunday speeches for round one, you know what I'm saying,

830
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 3: Like he going deep into the Alpacino bag in front

831
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 3: of my face, right, like going in and it's like

832
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 3: Game seven against the Kings, right. So but that kind

833
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: of shows you how it was just impactful. And I

834
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 3: do think it was a collection of like you got

835
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 3: Jordan Poobie in that way, and then you got other

836
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 3: young guys, Moses Moody, y'ahnathin Kaminga, like all these young guys.

837
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 3: So you could just watch the Warriors bench sometime and

838
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 3: it's like they ain't looking like they into it, and

839
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 3: I do feel like they needed that to change. They

840
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 3: needed less dudes who needed to be kind of prouded

841
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 3: and molded and more dudes who just like have their

842
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 3: own engine. But I do I do feel Jordan in

843
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 3: the sense that, like, the dude is twenty three, he

844
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 3: just got paid a hundred and thirty million, and you

845
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 3: asking him to essentially be like I need you to

846
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 3: be great, but also need you to be a role player,

847
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 3: Like I need you to come out and get thirty

848
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 3: and make threes and carry us, but like do it

849
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 3: in twenty minutes. That's a tough thing for a young

850
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 3: dude to handle. So I'm not that surprised that he

851
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 3: didn't handle it right. Like if he handled it better,

852
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 3: then maybe he should get forty million, right. Like the

853
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 3: dude who do this type stuff are like what we

854
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 3: see in Miami, Like you ain't got an option, bro,

855
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 3: you undrafted, like you Max strews you better, you better

856
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 3: do like this is what but JP is like yo,

857
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 3: I was just getting buckets for y'all and we won

858
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 3: a championship. So I do feel like that was an

859
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 3: unusual situation for him. And then you know, like low

860
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 3: key to be really about it a lot of the

861
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 3: same stuff that made him not the guy you go to,

862
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 3: like Clay was doing the same stuff, right, So it's like, yo,

863
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 3: Clay playing no defense right now either, So why y'all

864
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 3: on me? I just think it was a generational gap

865
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 3: and he wasn't like mature enough to handle this kind

866
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 3: of unique situation, because the truth is, there was no

867
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 3: point where he was gonna start like when is that

868
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 3: you're gonna get rid of Clay? Right? You ain't getting

869
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 3: rid of stuff, So when like it would be one

870
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,959
Speaker 3: thing if it's like, all right, bro, just sit it down.

871
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 3: Next year, we got you. But that you know, that's

872
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 3: like saying, Yo, we're gonna get married next year, right right, right, hold.

873
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 2: On, But look like I'm thirty nine. We never miss

874
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: a you know, a payment on the mortgage. My kids

875
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,240
Speaker 2: get to school on time every day. I consider myself

876
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: to be a very mature person. I'm not mature enough

877
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: to have a dude who sucker punched me sitting next

878
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 2: to me. And I gotta be cool. And then okay,

879
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 2: I get to a point where I'm cool, and now

880
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 2: I got to listen to my coach talk about how

881
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 2: great his intangibles are. Like during the playoffs and shit,

882
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 2: you know, like I don't think I'm mature enough to

883
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 2: handle that. I understand a twenty three year old who

884
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 2: write fully feels like he's a shit having a hard

885
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 2: time swallowing that that's a that's not a lot of

886
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: human beings that a name who've succeeded in a situation

887
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 2: like that.

888
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 3: I mean it's tough, right, I just feel like that's

889
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 3: the whole Warrior situation. Man, it's a bunch of dudes

890
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 3: who in any other situation, they'd be playing like it's like,

891
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 3: you know, it's like Houston right now, Like at some

892
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 3: point Jalen Green will probably be good, and he'll be

893
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 3: good because he was playing thirty minutes to night, like

894
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 3: playing terribly for three or four.

895
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 4: Four years, right, like.

896
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 3: Taking al after l like you know, like they don't

897
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 3: get to do that with You just can't do that

898
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 3: when you're playing with Steph, Like you gotta win, you

899
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 3: gotta win now, and you gotta be like smart enough

900
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 3: to do it now. You got to be emotionally mature,

901
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 3: Like it's a certain type of dude that can do this,

902
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 3: and it's hard, Like I ain't mad at kaminga for

903
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 3: being mad about not playing when he watches Scottie Barnes

904
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 3: just do whatever with Toronto, like get with every shot,

905
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 3: like I mean at some point to do this nineteen

906
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 3: and he came like from the congo he left his

907
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 3: parents at thirteen, was like, Yo, I'm going to make

908
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 3: something up myself. And he made it pro and it's

909
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 3: like all right, sit and wait, like everybody can't do that,

910
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 3: Like it's a wild request. It's reasonable requests, but it's

911
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 3: still hard to do. So that's the difficulty. But then

912
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 3: you got OG's like Moses Moody who left high school

913
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 3: to go play off the bench at mont verg Christian, right,

914
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 3: so he's kind of gotten used to it, you know

915
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Like, so it just takes a certain

916
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 3: you gotta be built a certain way. But Jordan, who's

917
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 3: a star like in his mind like he been a

918
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 3: star and like we just found out when he dropped thirty,

919
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 3: So it's difficult to be like, yo, I'm a star,

920
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 3: but yo, you might get twenty two minutes tonight because

921
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 3: of the matchup. And he like, man, lock me in

922
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 3: for thirty. No matter what, you lock me in for thirty,

923
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 3: I'm killing for you. I ain't guard nobody, but I'm

924
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 3: gonna get I'm gonna get my buckets.

925
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 6: They paid him thirty million. They want him to be

926
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 6: Bruce Brown when the starters come back. You know what

927
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 6: I'm saying that that's that's a lot. That's that's a

928
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 6: totally difference from like the year before when Steph was hurting.

929
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 6: You work the best player on you know, according to

930
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 6: the numbers doing that second half of the season.

931
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

932
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 6: So, but I was wondering, do you think like this

933
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 6: move helps send what will help them lock up you know, uh,

934
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 6: Draymond and Clay that core and least to the end

935
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 6: of Steph's career.

936
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 3: I mean, its like, can you imagine if they gave

937
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 3: up Jordan Pooh and lost Draymond and you ain't got

938
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 3: I mean, you replaced Jordan Pooh with Chris Paul so

939
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 3: you could win right now, because Jordan Poole might be

940
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 3: like he might actually be good and he knows your

941
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 3: system and you give him some time with it, like

942
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 3: in three years he might be the one. But like,

943
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 3: you gave that up so you can win right now,

944
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 3: and then you lose like the anchor of your defense

945
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 3: so if like the biggest winner is like Draymond because

946
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 3: he like, I'm getting paid regardless now. But they just

947
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 3: they can't not sign Draymond right now because now you

948
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 3: got Tracey Jackson Ellis starting, or Tracey Jackson Davis or Jyna.

949
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 3: Think like who's like literally who's starting if Draymond's gone?

950
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 2: If they lose Draymond, that's a tough first couple of

951
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 2: weeks for a new GM right, Like.

952
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 3: Bro, I mean he gangst enough to trade Jordan Pooh

953
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 3: in his first move for crazy, right, I leave you Jr.

954
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 3: As a gangster, Like, let me think about that. And

955
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 3: you know Warriors fans going crazy. They would spent the

956
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 3: last decade hating Chris Paul and now they got now

957
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 3: they gotta let him move in and sleep on the

958
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 3: couch like that. Mike didn't leave you like yo, I

959
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 3: don't care, like he about to help us win, Like

960
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 3: that was a g move though I respect that.

961
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 5: Speaking speaking of dun leave, you know you just hopped

962
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 5: on with us, you know you left the presser. What

963
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 5: exactly did he address there?

964
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 3: Like he couldn't talk about any of the stuff because

965
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 3: it can't go down to July six, and you know

966
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 3: in the NBA, they don't they don't do anything before

967
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 3: the alloted time. Right, the NBA is all on the up,

968
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 3: up in.

969
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 2: The temper free zone nowhere.

970
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, actually this trade didn't happen. We just slipped to

971
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 3: the multiverse where it was a lot of seven. But

972
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 3: you know he talked about, you know, the they just

973
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 3: drafted uh Brandon Puzemski or pajem Ski uh from Santa Clara.

974
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 3: They tried, they you know, they think they found the

975
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:28,479
Speaker 3: next Dante DiVincenzo. Like, you know, not just because he's white.

976
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 3: I mean he white, but not just that wasn't my

977
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:33,439
Speaker 3: cop that was there.

978
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 2: He got absolutely.

979
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, red hair. But nah, he

980
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 3: uh like you know, one of them, one of them

981
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 3: like overachievers, right, like not a great athlete, got a nice,

982
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 3: weird looking jimmy, but like he hustled, played hard, run

983
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 3: through the wall type, you know, mid major type. Right.

984
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 3: So they got him. They love him. They had him

985
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 3: really hot. I thought when Cam Whitmore fell to him,

986
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 3: was like, that's just kind of what you need right there.

987
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 3: But something was up with him, like something medical, something

988
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 3: was up with him. So they went and got basically

989
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 3: a replacement for Dante DiVincenzo. But they got a dude

990
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 3: in the second round who from what I understand, he

991
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 3: probably could have came out earlier, but the nil money

992
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 3: was too good. And that's an interesting like dynamic when

993
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 3: you think about it, because you're just like yo, if

994
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 3: you not a locked first round pick and you just

995
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 3: like lock on for like the NBA minimum, like it

996
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 3: might even it might be more lucrative to stay in school,

997
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like it's probably more fun

998
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 3: in school anyway. Like, So they liked him, they thought

999
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 3: he was higher. He wanted them dudes that tried to

1000
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 3: dunk everything. He's like an anti warrior in that way

1001
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 3: where everybody on the warders want to shoot threes and

1002
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 3: but he like taking off from the dotted line on everything,

1003
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 3: like his daddy, Dale Davis. That's all probably all you need.

1004
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 5: To know about.

1005
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm talking about my goddamn you still

1006
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 3: got He's still got some young out of here. Who

1007
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 3: would be surprised though if anybody, if you wear a

1008
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 3: hoop ear ring and a gocha like you might have

1009
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 3: a kid at fifty.

1010
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 4: My dad had a kid at fifty. Man, you got to.

1011
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 2: I'm curious for your thoughts on you know, there's been

1012
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 2: so much made. I've heard from all my friends who

1013
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 2: are Warriors fans along the lines of what.

1014
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 4: You just said.

1015
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 2: This is the dude we hate, This is the dick

1016
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 2: puncher we don't like, you know what I mean. You

1017
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 2: know they're trying to wrap their heads around it. But

1018
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 2: I'm curious, just you know, you know the team as

1019
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 2: well as anybody. How do you think he fits?

1020
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

1021
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 2: What like, what do you think this looks like next year?

1022
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 2: How does this change the team? Because you're you're you're replacing,

1023
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 2: You're you're taking out a dude who had that ceiling, right,

1024
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 2: you mentioned the thirty point ceiling, big ceiling, and you're

1025
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 2: bringing in a dude who you know. Obviously, the injury

1026
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 2: profile the last couple of years is what it is.

1027
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 2: And it is not out here running off balls scoring

1028
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 2: thirty points a game.

1029
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 3: So you know what I mean, this is this is

1030
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 3: one of the most interesting, like plug in play type dudes.

1031
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 3: The words have gotten like like KD was like it

1032
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 3: was very obvious, how you know what I'm saying, Like

1033
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 3: it was like all right, like I see this even

1034
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 3: like with Dante DiVincenzo, like with Chris Paul. First off,

1035
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 3: I think we getting a different Chris Paul, like a

1036
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 3: Chris Paul who is clearly so fed up with not

1037
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 3: winning that he's like I'll eat all that, like I'll

1038
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 3: eat it. I don't care, I just want to win, right.

1039
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 3: And obviously he's older now, he's pushing forty, you know,

1040
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 3: he writing books and stuff, like he's obviously got you

1041
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, He's obviously got some perspective about

1042
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 3: him and and whatever it used to be. You know,

1043
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 3: like they they clearly are like he wants to win.

1044
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 3: I think he fits from a couple of standpoints, like

1045
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 3: if you watch the words, you know, like their Achilles

1046
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 3: Hills turnovers, I mean they just they just feed. They're

1047
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 3: like a soup kitchen for other teams. They just you

1048
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. It's like turnovers like go ahead,

1049
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 3: run run it. Uh. And he he ends that like

1050
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 3: the dude, just don't turn the ball over, right, Like

1051
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 3: he's one.

1052
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 5: Of the likes turnover ratio be crazy.

1053
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 4: It was like more than one or some shit.

1054
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 3: It's crazy too because we used to judge Steph By

1055
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 3: that be like man he ain't no point guard. This

1056
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 3: is ratio is only one and a half to one,

1057
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 3: like Chris Paul be like one thousand to two. But

1058
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 3: it's wild how it works. But like he's the thing

1059
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,720
Speaker 3: that they need that Kevin Durant gave them, that andre

1060
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 3: Igodala gave them is when Steph is off the ball,

1061
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 3: especially because when he's on the ball, they just probably

1062
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 3: gonna trap him anyway, Like you just gotta put the

1063
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 3: ball in the hands of somebody who's not gonna give

1064
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 3: you a heart attack, right, And that's like they didn't

1065
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,720
Speaker 3: have that. As good as Jordan Pooh was at times,

1066
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 3: like he there was times where he was gonna give

1067
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 3: you a heart attack, Like.

1068
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 4: When there was you feel like.

1069
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 3: Chris Paul, you could be like, all right, y'all want

1070
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 3: to trap stuff, y'all want to blitz them. Okay, we're

1071
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 3: gonna put the ball in the hands of arguably the

1072
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 3: greatest point guard, decision maker, floor general of all time.

1073
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 3: And we're gonna see what you like, now what you're

1074
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 3: gonna do. And I got you got Clay, and you

1075
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 3: got Steph, and you got wigs, and you got Draymond

1076
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 3: setting screens right like and now another part that's open

1077
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 3: is the I think I've always thought Steph should do

1078
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 3: this more is that mid range, Like this dude is

1079
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 3: gonna get to the spot and he's gonna get the shot.

1080
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 3: The words don't have dudes who make toobs like they

1081
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 3: just don't have the tough too maker. It was Wiggins,

1082
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 3: but Wiggins, you know, he he just had a rough year.

1083
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 3: It wasn't a wig As year. But they don't have nobody.

1084
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 3: It's like, all right, man, but look y'all play hoop.

1085
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 3: You know, like the threes is cool, but when you

1086
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 3: win championships, but you got to get a bucket, right, Like,

1087
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 3: it can't be about like shooting threes. It's a low

1088
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 3: percentage shot. And so they like Chris Paul, especially if

1089
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 3: the floor spread, he can go get you a bucket,

1090
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 3: like he five to eleven, but he can go get

1091
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 3: you a bucket.

1092
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 4: I think that.

1093
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 3: Helps the fact that they don't have to like Steph

1094
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 3: ain't gonna have to give a speech to Chris Paul

1095
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 3: before games at the Sacramento, right, he ain't gonna have

1096
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 3: to give jugging on the bus and stay home. You

1097
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 3: got to get at the Chris Paul, right. And also

1098
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 3: like Chris Paul can do some of the helping with

1099
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 3: the mentor and with the manager. So I do feel

1100
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 3: like there's like the most ideal setup, like he will

1101
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 3: help them. If he's on the court at the end

1102
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 3: of the game right now, they're a better team than

1103
00:51:58,560 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 3: when Jordan Poo's on the court at the end of

1104
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 3: the day, right like at the ball in his hands.

1105
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 3: The question is will he be on the court because

1106
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 3: because it's injuries and the thing about this, I ain't

1107
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,919
Speaker 3: even notice. Y'all ain't even tell me. This is where

1108
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 3: y'all let me down. I was looking at this minute, yo,

1109
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 3: I didn't realize Mony Williams was like running as he

1110
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 3: was playing thirty seven, thirty eight, thirty nine, forty. I

1111
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 3: was like, that's why he blew out his hand.

1112
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,439
Speaker 2: He didn't catch the reputation for it that Steve Nash

1113
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 2: did because everyone in the media likes Monty Williams and

1114
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 2: I also like Minty Williams, but he would I mean,

1115
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 2: Kadi was up in the mid forties in the playoffs.

1116
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 2: He was doing the exact same shit, bro.

1117
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 3: That dude was in the That dude was doing donuts

1118
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 3: on some ball tires, like you gotta relax. Be that's

1119
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 3: the advantage, like he'll have Like they won't need him

1120
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 3: to play thirty Like Steph don't even play thirty eight minutes,

1121
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 3: like Steve Kerr will lose the game if it means

1122
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 3: like yo, Steph, thirty six minutes, boy, better be an

1123
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 3: emergency for him to get to thirty eight. They not playing.

1124
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 2: He has championships, He has a champion you know. He Like,

1125
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 2: I'm not that worried about April second. It doesn't matter

1126
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 2: that much to me.

1127
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if Chris Paul averaged like twenty

1128
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 3: six minutes and save him. Yeah, I mean it don't

1129
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 3: stop heavyes from you know what I'm saying, But like

1130
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 3: they will do the things that make you say, we

1131
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 3: need you for this part of the year. But man,

1132
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 3: if you get to that second round and you playing

1133
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 3: Denver and he come up lame, this will go hurt.

1134
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 3: Like this will go hurt tough because that's JP's roll

1135
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 3: and JP there every night, like dude got stole on

1136
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 3: video leaked that he showed up every day every game

1137
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 3: like he hadn't missed nothing, every practice, every game he

1138
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 3: was there, and availability matters. I guess to do if

1139
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 3: you're playing well, because you know he was on the

1140
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 3: bench for some of those. But like if CP's on

1141
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 3: the court, you feel like they're just a better, more

1142
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 3: under control team. They're smaller, though, and I don't know

1143
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 3: what they did. Like I was at the finals, man

1144
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 3: like Yokich had Bam looking like you know what I'm saying.

1145
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 4: Man ain't a five though, Man six nine.

1146
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 3: But Bam is like Bam and a d are like

1147
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 3: the most perfect small ball centers. But but Yokics made

1148
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 3: it look like yo, you can't get away with that

1149
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 3: no more like you need to. I mean just Denver

1150
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 3: in general, like Aaron Gordon, like MPG, these is not

1151
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 3: little dudes. Man, like they was trying to put gay

1152
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 3: Vincent switching on Aaron Gordon. It's like them days might

1153
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 3: be taking the al where you could just play five

1154
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 3: smalls like that. So I don't know, like how that's

1155
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 3: gonna work. They didn't really get bigger, they actually got smaller.

1156
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 3: But on offense, I think they're more they're more solid,

1157
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 3: right like in the in the game, they're more solid,

1158
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 3: and they just are generally less solid, like they're like

1159
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 3: a it's hell of fun, you know what, I'm saying,

1160
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 3: were throwing, we take it shot like it's fun. But

1161
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 3: they like Steve Kerr will love it because he's like Chris,

1162
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 3: just just don't turn the rock over it because if

1163
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 3: they get shots, they tend to win. But if they

1164
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 3: feed the other team fifteen extra shots, that's ball game.

1165
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 3: So he won't do that. But that dude thirty nine

1166
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 3: man like that, he gonna be thirty nine next year.

1167
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 3: He and g if he pull us off, Chris Paul

1168
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 3: pull us off, he and.

1169
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 5: G Yo, Like, I don't know, I'd be a big

1170
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 5: concern if houseboys, man, I'm motherfucker's old as dirt dog.

1171
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 5: You might be out there looking like cliff Ball bro.

1172
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1173
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 3: Many and you know it's bad with like Steph thirty five,

1174
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 3: if he did. He's a young one, you know what

1175
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like like that, that's that's.

1176
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 5: He's the young cornerstone.

1177
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 2: They got to build around him.

1178
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, can you feel like you feel like with do

1179
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 3: you feel like he can if he played fewer minutes,

1180
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 3: if you know, if he was like preserved in a

1181
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 3: way like Hawaii's preserved, right, do you feel like health

1182
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 3: do they do? They beat the Lakers if Chris Paul

1183
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 3: is played.

1184
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 5: H M, I mean, how healthy is Brom going to

1185
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 5: because now we're just dealing with you know, the old

1186
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 5: folks home here, right, but uh, we're.

1187
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 2: Dealing with hypothetical goes on some old ass fucking ligaments, right.

1188
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 5: Right, But but but but I will say this, right,

1189
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 5: like Moses Moody looks prime to have an incredible season

1190
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 5: this season, and it's Chris Paul. You know, if you

1191
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 5: get a big like like Chris Paul, that's what he does, bro,

1192
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 5: He maximizes your big So I'm very much looking forward

1193
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 5: to what he pulls off the most.

1194
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 3: It seemed like Kaminga, right, yeah, Minga should be like

1195
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 3: he should be able to dust off Kaminga. I just

1196
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 3: want to see Warriors fans like like how this happened

1197
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 3: When Chris Paul goes I'll drop twenty five? Is it

1198
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 3: like a like a reserve kind of or do they

1199
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 3: just lean in like I mean, brother, it's been since

1200
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 3: Slop City like this sister the crossover right, like.

1201
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 5: Right, It's like, bro, the Warriors had to knock off

1202
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 5: the Clippers and show they really arrived, like they were

1203
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 5: in their way, you know, the Chris and.

1204
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 3: Remember they won the title, and it was like Doc

1205
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,720
Speaker 3: Rivers and them talking about they got lucky.

1206
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 5: Remember, like then was you know some flown seeds like

1207
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 5: like why w win that series? You know what I'm saying?

1208
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, it's history out here between it

1209
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 3: like that's man, just feel like that that scene when

1210
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 3: the Crips and the Bloods hold up to.

1211
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 4: It's only temporary though, you know what I mean?

1212
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 3: But uh, they come on, man, it's North Carolina. We

1213
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 3: need p poblo at the game definite CP three together.

1214
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 3: Come on, man, J Cole in the building.

1215
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 2: Let's go all right, Margarets, thanks so much for having

1216
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:42,919
Speaker 2: on with us. Man, it was a very long ass

1217
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 2: day for you. We appreciate you.

1218
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 8: Bro.

1219
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 3: Is that in North Carolina? A and T batter behind you.

1220
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 3: I'll see you. Why not? Uh, what's the why not?

1221
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 3: Went to Salem State.

1222
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 5: Because I went honor Chris Paul. Yeah, I went at

1223
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 5: Long I got love for with the Salem s. That's

1224
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 5: our sister school. They're like thirty minutes up, forty from myself.

1225
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 5: Shouston went to Salem.

1226
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 3: So my my, you know, I'm from Oakland, right wing

1227
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 3: wing wing. I know, HBCUs out here and and low key.

1228
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 3: I didn't even know I was going to HBCU when

1229
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 3: I went to Clark, Atlanta.

1230
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 5: You ain't HBC when you went.

1231
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 3: I mean you kind of know. I just didn't know

1232
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 3: what it was like. I didn't know school days was real.

1233
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 4: Like you you know what I'm saying.

1234
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 3: All we knew was gang banging, Leave us alive. But like,

1235
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 3: but I get one of my first like, oh, this

1236
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 3: is what a black college is like is when Winston

1237
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 3: Salem came to play and they brought there like I

1238
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 3: don't want to call them cheerleaders because they weren't cheerleading,

1239
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 3: but man, it was like they had like dancers they

1240
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 3: like out there stepping. It was I was like, okay,

1241
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 3: we in the South, right, everybody came to see them,

1242
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 3: Like nobody came to see the game. They came to

1243
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 3: see you, the Winstern Salem dancers. And then so that's

1244
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 3: where I'm like forever loyal to Winston Salem and it's

1245
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 3: it's down with A and T because y'all ain't come

1246
00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 3: through Atlanta.

1247
00:58:58,760 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 4: Not at all.

1248
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 5: Golden Delight, they are legendary as well, Yes sir, yes boy,

1249
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 5: at Golden Delight, My boy.

1250
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 3: I need to go to incognito to be looking up

1251
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 3: the light. I appreciate you, yes, sir, alright, I have

1252
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 3: a good all right.

1253
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 2: Hey, we spent a good chunk of the last podcast

1254
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 2: talking about the sub submarine submersible sandwich that was down in.

1255
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 4: I can't say that now, knowing the information we know, Mike.

1256
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 2: I actually am more comfortable making jokes about it knowing

1257
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 2: that they are. It was when they were dying, when

1258
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 2: I thought they were dying, that I was uncomfortable joking

1259
00:59:58,560 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 2: about it.

1260
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 7: It is just is that fucked up. But it was

1261
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 7: just me and rather and she was like, she laughed,

1262
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 7: but she was like, that's wild.

1263
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 4: But you know, I'm not gonna publicly clown.

1264
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 2: We now know that the submarine suffered a quote catastrophic

1265
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 2: implosion on Sunday.

1266
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 4: They know what happened Sunday.

1267
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 5: They know that's like a couple of hours into the descent.

1268
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 6: So so so as soon as it okay, So I

1269
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 6: think the two and a half mark was whenever supposed

1270
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 6: to be at the bottom anyway, So it just happened,

1271
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 6: all right.

1272
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 2: And so you know, like good news bad news. The

1273
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 2: bad news is bad news is you're dead. But the

1274
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 2: good news is you died fast.

1275
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, what we were talking about getting like

1276
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 5: compressed and drowned simultaneously, Like.

1277
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 6: No, no, you don't, you don't know. It's it's it's

1278
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 6: it's instantaneous.

1279
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 2: Like I think it'd be like being shot by a

1280
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 2: bullet the size of your whole body. Yeah, yeah, because

1281
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 2: the pressure so strong, Tyler. I feel like they said,

1282
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 2: if there was one thing like that, it's like like this,

1283
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, they probably didn't even know

1284
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 2: what was happening.

1285
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 4: You see the image of it.

1286
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 6: It's like like like a like like it's like us

1287
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 6: stepping on a on a coke can, Bro, Like it's right, I.

1288
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 2: Like if you're like if the plane crashed without falling,

1289
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, something like that. I don't know, Bro,

1290
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 2: I see the vision.

1291
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 5: So I'm just wondering how it's instantaneous. So basically they

1292
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 5: just instantly get crushed like their their skulls and Okay,

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Speaker 5: well yeah, I'm sure that's as instant as death can be.

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Speaker 6: Like one second it's like normal, and then one hundredth

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Speaker 6: of a second later it's right, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: The pressure on the outside of it is five thousand

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01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 2: pounds per square inch and so yeah, like if I

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Speaker 2: mean that's what we were saying, like they got crushed

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Speaker 2: by the fist of God. Basically, like almost nothing on

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01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 2: earth can withstand the pressure of like that depth. And

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01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 2: so if there was anything wrong with it at all,

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01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 2: the whole thing, like they said, at the depth they

1303
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 2: were at, if you were to shoot a hole in

1304
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 2: an oxygen tank on a scuba diver, the air would

1305
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 2: not come out. The water would go in instantaneously because

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01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 2: that's how that's how strong a pressure is that the

1307
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 2: air would not have enough strength to come out.

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01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 3: God.

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Speaker 6: And this is I was listening to a pod earlier

1310
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 6: today and they were talking about this this guy and

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01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 6: I think we.

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01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 2: Talked about the maritime experts have been making there. I

1313
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,959
Speaker 2: hope they all got their appearance fees up front because

1314
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 2: these motherfuckers have.

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Speaker 6: Been Hey, I'm not a man, and I think that

1316
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 6: hope they stayed for a while man, because it's it's

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01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 6: kind of interesting, is what's going on with these maritime

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01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 6: experts and what they be experienced.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, but.

1320
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Speaker 6: Uh, this dude was I was listening to a pod

1321
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 6: about it this morning. He said that first while he said,

1322
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 6: like the five thousands like three tons of like basically

1323
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 6: three cars of pressure per square inch.

1324
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 4: Crazy, you know what I'm saying, Yeah.

1325
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 2: Per square can't even you can't run total numbers.

1326
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 6: Yeah it may it makes it makes no sense. And

1327
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 6: then he said that they were cutting corners in ways that.

1328
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 4: Like, bro, you can't, you can't.

1329
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 6: Like he said, he went down on submersible to submersible,

1330
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 6: he went down in it felt like a spaceship.

1331
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 4: He said.

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01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 6: They have backups for the backups, for the backups, backups,

1333
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 6: like there was a bunch of ways that you know things,

1334
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 6: could you know, if something goes wrong, they have something

1335
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 6: that to fix this. You know, communication, you know, all

1336
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 6: types of stuff.

1337
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 2: Did you see the thread, Tyler sent us, No, no, no,

1338
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 2: it's the same thing you're talking about, like the one

1339
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 2: that James Cameron took down to the bottom, like all

1340
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 2: the way to the bottom of the ocean. Was like

1341
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 2: it was like that, Like.

1342
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, so he was one solid, one solid vessel made

1343
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 6: out of titanium, and then they tried to like mix

1344
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 6: titanium with carbon.

1345
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 4: Fiber, so it wasn't a solid vessel.

1346
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 6: And it's like you can't, like these are the things

1347
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 6: that you can't play with.

1348
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 4: So we talked.

1349
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 6: We were laughing about like how ridiculously it was made,

1350
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 6: and then when he talked about it, it made it

1351
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 6: even seem worse, like they were really trying to Like

1352
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 6: the dude said they was doing he was doing shit

1353
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 6: on the cheap, which was.

1354
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 4: Like white people, y'all got on the cheap. I love

1355
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 4: to hear it. Yes, it's similar to on the low

1356
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 4: for the low. You know, I'm like, Okay, that's a

1357
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 4: cool you know, that's equal anyway.

1358
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 6: But anyway, Yeah, so they're doing shit on the cheap,

1359
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 6: Like they didn't get it certified because it's time consuming

1360
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 6: into an expensive and the way that they lied their

1361
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 6: way out of it was that they were doing things

1362
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 6: in too with like too innovatively that in a way

1363
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 6: that there was it was it takes years for these

1364
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 6: regulations to catch up to the innovations. Innovations is a

1365
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:50,479
Speaker 6: fucking logitech aftermarket, you know, like, like what the fuck?

1366
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 4: It wasn't any innovation. They were just being cheap.

1367
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 6: And it's like you were being cheap at the bottom

1368
01:04:55,760 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 6: of the ocean, bro, that's the place, if there's.

1369
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 4: Any place on the planet, you can't be cheap.

1370
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 6: It's twelve thousand five hundred feet under the surface of

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01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 6: the ocean.

1372
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 4: Bro.

1373
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 2: It's like it's like trying to shoot yourself into space

1374
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 2: in a porta potty or some shit.

1375
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 4: It's like, nigga, Bro, you know what I'm saying.

1376
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 2: It's so like, go ahead and double like double check

1377
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 2: that the eyes are dotted and the teaser crossed twelve

1378
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 2: thousand feet under there? Did you see?

1379
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 4: Yes, like with people, like with people that were paying Oh,

1380
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 4: with the.

1381
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 2: Dude who convinced his son to go with them.

1382
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 6: Bron said he was terrified the whole time, did not

1383
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 6: want to go at all.

1384
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 4: And was doing it to satisfy his father.

1385
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 2: On Father's Day. They left on Father's Day. Yeah, that

1386
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 2: was tough, dog. I didn't like that. Whoever, whichever one

1387
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 2: of y'all said that, I didn't appreciate that.

1388
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 4: I said it. If I saw y'all had to see

1389
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 4: it too, Bro.

1390
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 2: Did you see the last maritime extra thing out there?

1391
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 4: Out there?

1392
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 2: Because this shit tripped me the fuck out. Did you

1393
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 2: see so y'all know the the documentary Planet Earth. I

1394
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 2: think we've all watched that.

1395
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I watched it high twelve hundred times. Yeah,

1396
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 6: it was incredible.

1397
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 2: High. The people who made that made a documentary about

1398
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 2: the ocean called Blue Planet that's similarly like the Different

1399
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 2: you know, it goes to the different jis. Yeah. Yeah,

1400
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 2: So the dude said, he went, the dude who is

1401
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 2: the director, went down in one of these submersible vehicles,

1402
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 2: and he said, they found this is going to trip

1403
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 2: you the fuck out. They found an underwater lake in

1404
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 2: the ocean. So they were like, they're they're they're like

1405
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 2: several thousand feet below the surface of the ocean. They're

1406
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 2: driving the submersible and they's got the light and in

1407
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 2: the distance they saw like a band and they're like,

1408
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 2: what the fuck is that. So they get closer to

1409
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 2: it and they see that there's a ring. He said

1410
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 2: it was shaped like a donut of muscles, you know,

1411
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 2: like the like you see on the piers and shit

1412
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 2: like that, like muscles. Right in the center of this

1413
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 2: ring of muscles was water inside of the ocean, but

1414
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 2: you could see the ripples of the water on the

1415
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 2: lake coming up against the quote unquote shore of these

1416
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 2: muscles that it formed a ring. And he said there

1417
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 2: was like kind of steam in the water in the

1418
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 2: ocean coming up off the surface of this lake. So

1419
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 2: he said, he and the other guy are like, we

1420
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 2: might have found a portal to another dimension or whatever,

1421
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 2: Like we gotta go try and get in there. He

1422
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 2: said they couldn't get the submersible vehicle into the lake

1423
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 2: because it was so salinated and dense like this, you know,

1424
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 2: it was like the salt lake, like salt lake or whatever.

1425
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 2: He said they quote bounced off the surface of the

1426
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 2: lake in the ocean, and that when they looked out

1427
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 2: the window they saw ripples on the surface of the

1428
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 2: lake in the ocean.

1429
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 6: Bruh, I have so much fear in me right now

1430
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 6: hearing that, Like I've felt a type of fear that

1431
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:03,919
Speaker 6: I've never felt. Would you described that, nigga, bro, that's

1432
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 6: some love crafty like that's something real? That is that

1433
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 6: is that is literally unimaginable, But you can't imagine that.

1434
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 3: I'm gonna send you all this clip.

1435
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, please send me that. Please send me that. Jesus Christ,

1436
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 4: will you have.

1437
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 5: To say, teller what you're saying. I was gonna say.

1438
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,560
Speaker 5: You know, I saw the stat that the most successful

1439
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 5: deep sea rescue mission was only fifteen hundred feet and

1440
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 5: they would have to go what fucking two and a

1441
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 5: half Miles here. I was like, bro, why is this

1442
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 5: even a story? Like I think if we all knew that,

1443
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 5: we'd have been new.

1444
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying This dude that they were

1445
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:42,640
Speaker 6: talking about, I'm talking about like this, the machine that

1446
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 6: goes down twelve thousand feet to retrieve stuff.

1447
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 4: They who kept.

1448
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 6: He was describing it as a search and rescue mission,

1449
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 6: and one of the reporters said, has anybody have you

1450
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 6: ever recovered anything or anybody that was alive using this?

1451
01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 6: He said no. It was like he just he like,

1452
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 6: it was like, you call it a search and rescue,

1453
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 6: but what are we?

1454
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 4: What have you?

1455
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 6: What have you always done with this equipment? And it's

1456
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 6: never been that, you know what I mean?

1457
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,719
Speaker 5: Search and recover rescue with dog.

1458
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 6: Nigga's crazy, but damn bro, but I just the irony

1459
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:20,640
Speaker 6: of going down the records and becoming records is just

1460
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 6: wild and something that, like Mike reminded us last podcast

1461
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 6: that it's not as safe as the thing you're going

1462
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 6: to go see, you know what I mean. It's just

1463
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 6: come on, bro, that's just all right. That's all the

1464
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 6: time we got for today. We'll be back on Sunday.

1465
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 6: We'll be back tomorrow.

1466
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 2: We'll be back on Sunday with another episode. Will catch

1467
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 2: you all then, Bye bye,