WEBVTT - 1/12/26: Trump Threatens Jerome Powell, JD Vance Attacks Ryan, Tim Dillon Sounds Off On ICE, Iran War 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:01.599 Hey, guys, Saga and Crystal here. 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:05.240 Independent media just played a truly massive role in this election, 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:07.840 and we are so excited about what that means for 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:08.720 the future of the show. 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:10.760 This is the only place where you can find honest 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:13.280 perspectives from the left and the right that simply does 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:14.640 not exist anywhere else. 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:17.080 So if that is something that's important to you, please 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:19.599 go to Breakingpoints dot com. 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I don't actually 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:41.160 remember if we've ever done this since studio together. 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:43.160 I think we have over the years. 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:46.199 Okay, I know we've done the show together, but maybe 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:46.960 like remotely. 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:49.640 But anyway, this is exciting. 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:52.040 The real heads will have to look through the record 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:53.040 books and try to figure it out. 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:54.520 You remember better than I will. 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:56.320 We all love the premise of the show hearing from 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:58.200 both sides, but sometimes you just kind of get. 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:00.400 Sick of that, right sometimes you don't, I really want 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.639 to hear from the others. No, there is a very 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:06.240 specific reason why is Ryan and mean Today we actually 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:08.360 have Senator Chris van Holland on, which is going to 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:10.480 change the format of the show a little bit. Ryan 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:12.760 secured that booking. I've been really wanting to talk to 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:15.280 Senator Van Holland. So Sager graciously said, Hey, you guys 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:17.000 just handled the show so that we can do all 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:19.200 of that. So we're going to make sure to save 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:21.440 a good bit of time to speak with the senator 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:23.320 who has been at the forefront of any number of 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:26.560 significant issues. He's been pushing back on Schumor, He's obviously 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:28.600 led the charge in terms of a lot of foreign policy, 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:30.640 been very courageous with regard to Gaza, with regard to 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:33.360 kill Marburgo Garcia. So want to talk to him about 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:35.720 a whole range of issues. Also, Ryan has a weird 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:39.200 because of course he does, a weird personal connection with 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:42.120 Chris van Holland. You want to save that for the interviewer. 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:45.320 You want to give it, Okay, So other things are 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:47.160 going to try to get through all of this in 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:48.920 the show. We may go through these things a little 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.280 bit more quickly than we normally do because we are 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:53.600 trying to get to that interview with Senator Van Holland. 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:55.640 But we have a big fighte that's broken out now 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:58.360 between the FED Chair Jerome pal and Donald Trump. The 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:02.240 DOJ is investigating Powell now for some sort of criminal 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:06.480 malfeasance with regards to the FED headquarters renovation, and Powell 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:09.000 is firing back. So we've got our eyes on the markets. 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:12.160 That is a massive, massive development. We'll break that down 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:13.959 for you. We've got big developments with regards to ice, 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:16.800 including very own again Ryan Grim fighting with the president 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.480 vice president of the United States, so well more accurately 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:20.240 him fighting with you. 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:21.200 Yeah, he's true. 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:22.239 He picked the fighting start. 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:23.480 Well, I called him psychotic. 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:28.080 Okay, that's true. That is true in any case, So 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:29.480 we'll dig into that. But there are a lot more 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:32.639 details to come out there as well, and also surging, 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:35.639 you know, ice brutality across the entire country. We've got 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:37.840 Tim Dillon wing and with his thoughts on the killing 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:40.760 of Renee Good, we've got potential war with Aron and 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:42.880 Trump making some new comments there. And then we have 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:47.240 that aforementioned interview with Senator Chris van Holland, So a 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:49.080 lot to get into. If you guys enjoy the show, 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:53.000 please support us at Breakingpoints dot com. And also if 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:56.079 you cannot sign up for a premium subscription, totally get it. 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:58.120 It would help us a lot if you guys subscribe 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:00.079 to the channel. So if you're watching the clips you 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:02.320 haven't subscribed to the channel, please subscribe to the channel. 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:04.560 Helps us in the algorithm. 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It 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:46.360 is also good for our egos, so that. 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:47.480 We appreciate that too. 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:48.640 That's true, all. 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:51.200 Right, Ryan, you want to break down this that chair situation. 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:56.240 So last night Jerome Pal put out a let's just 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:59.120 roll a one here. This is Jerome Pal saying that 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:01.800 on Friday he was basically served with papers that Trump 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:02.920 is trying to prosecute him. 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:06.520 On Friday, the Department of Justice served the Federal Reserve 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:10.640 with grand jury subpoenas threatening a criminal indictment related to 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:15.520 my testimony before the Senate Banking Committee last June. That 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:19.760 testimony concerned, in part, a multi year project to renovate 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:24.599 historic Federal Reserve office buildings. I have deep respect for 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:27.880 the rule of law and for accountability in our democracy. 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:31.160 No one, certainly not the Chair of the Federal Reserve 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:35.120 is above the law. But this unprecedented action should be 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:38.680 seen in the broader context of the administration's threats and 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:43.040 ongoing pressure. This new threat is not about my testimony 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:46.560 last June, or about the renovation of the Federal Reserve buildings. 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:50.400 It is not about Congress's oversight rule the Fed. Through 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:53.880 testimony and other public disclosures made every effort to keep 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:56.680 Congress informed about the renovation project. 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:58.680 Those are pretexts. 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.800 The threat of criminal charges is a consequence of the 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:06.919 Federal Reserve setting interest rates based on our best assessment 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:09.880 of what will serve the public, rather than following the 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:13.800 preferences of the President. This is about whether the Fed 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:16.200 will be able to continue to set interest rates based 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:20.239 on evidence and economic conditions, or whether instead monetary policy 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:25.240 will be directed by political pressure or intimidation. I have 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:29.200 served at the Federal Reserve under four administrations, Republicans and 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:32.880 Democrats alike. In every case, I have carried out my 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:37.320 duties without political fear or favor, focused solely on our 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:42.839 mandate of price stability and maximum employment. Public service sometimes 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:46.880 requires standing firm in the face of threats. I will 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:49.520 continue to do the job the Senate confirmed me to 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:54.000 do with integrity and a commitment to serving the American people. 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:57.680 And the financial fallout of this, the economic fallout I'll 0:05:57.720 --> 0:05:59.799 read just straight from the Wall Street Journal. Stock futures 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:02.479 feed all the dollar weekend, and gold prices jumped to 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:05.960 a record after FED share pal said President Trump was 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:08.000 seeking to press the Central banket and cutting interest rates 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:09.960 the markets. 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.120 Gold buds really vindicated under this administration. 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:15.680 If you bought gold, yes, every day you're feeling better 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:19.880 and better. The market moves points, you reinvigorated concerns about 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:23.240 FED independence. And it says that tech stocks are leading 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:28.799 the crash in futures because tech stocks rely most heavily 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:32.839 on interest rates, on interest rates and easy. 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:36.080 Money, and so they because they they don't think clearly. 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:38.720 A market doesn't think that, oh, well, he's prosecuting pal 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:40.840 He's going to get exactly what he wants. Because if 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:43.080 they thought that, then it'd be like, oh okay, let's 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:48.039 bye bye bye. But instead they're they're kind of shaken 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:50.640 by this. This And we were talking about this earlier. 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:52.960 You were pointing out that this was this is kind 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:58.119 of Trump airing out his grievance from last summer where 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:01.560 Palell kind of embarrassed in front of the cameras. When 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:04.440 you know, Trump likes to dress down his subordinates and 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:07.279 loves to then you know, just be praised by them 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:09.240 or they sit there silently and take it. 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:11.400 Pal didn't do that. So let's roll. 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:13.040 I think it's the third element here. 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:14.480 A three. 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:17.440 This is still the summer of twenty twenty five, and. 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:20.560 Kim has been with me for a long time and 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:22.200 you're in judge of the committee. 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:23.840 One of the reasons why I wanted to see it 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:28.000 was the overruns of the expenses, wanting to figure out why. 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:32.280 Yeah, so we taking a look and it looks like 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:34.480 it's about three point one billion. Who went up a 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:38.200 little bit or a lot, so the two point seven 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:40.800 is now three point one. 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:42.480 Yeah, it just came out. 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:45.680 Yeah, I haven't heard that from anybody to set. 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:47.760 It just came. 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:53.120 I know about three point one as well. 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:55.880 This came from us. 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:58.480 Yes, I don't know who does that? 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:02.840 Are you including the Martin renovation? 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:05.760 You just retire capital, you just you just added in 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:06.520 a third building? 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:08.000 Is what that is? That's a third building. 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:10.280 It's a building that's being built. 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:12.640 It's been it was built five years ago. 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:13.800 We finished Martin. 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:19.160 Five years over as part of the oldall sow So 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:21.360 we're going to take a look. We're going to see 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:22.040 what's happening. 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:24.640 And it's got a long way. 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:26.880 Do you expect any more additional course. 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:30.680 O roads, don't expect them. We're ready for him. But 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:32.880 we have a little bit of a reserve that. 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:35.040 Well we may use, but no we don't expect to 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:36.640 be finished in twenty twenty seven. 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:39.560 We're well along as you can see. 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:42.640 Uh, nice to take these off every once. 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:42.920 In a while. 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:47.520 Okay, so the Fed did a renovation project. Trump thinks 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:51.199 it's too expensive. Probably is all renovation projects are. 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:52.480 And now. 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.440 In order to make that case, he shows how this 0:08:56.559 --> 0:09:01.280 letter pal figures out immediately you just throw in another building. 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:04.320 Just added in this other building that was completed years ago. 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.920 I'm not a developer, but if you add in another building, 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:09.600 that does increase the cost. 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:11.360 That's true. 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:14.000 Ye, that's my understanding of how this works as well well. 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:18.240 And so there's both. So I mean, obviously, government agencies 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:20.440 go over budget all the time. Runovasions go over budget 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:24.120 all the time. What makes this a even theoretical crime. 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:28.560 They're investigating whether he lied to Congress about the possible 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:31.960 cost overruns. And so you know, there's the political aspect 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:35.240 of this, the retribution campaign. Obviously, Powell's not the first 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:37.640 for Trump to try to go after. It has not 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:39.720 been that successful yet, which I think is something that 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:43.280 we should all be heartened by. They've tried to jump 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:47.800 these like mortgage fraud claims against Letitia James and others, 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:50.080 those have not really gone anywhere. A bunch of these 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:52.200 things have gotten thrown out a court. Now they're going 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:56.080 after Leticia James again. This time they're investigating something to 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:59.560 do with her hairdresser. I mean, very obviously, this is 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.080 not about going after like, oh, we've got to find 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:04.440 the worst criminals and the worst malfeasans and go after 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:08.079 though those people they're partnering. They're looking to go after 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:11.960 Trump's political enemies. It is incredibly overt. It is the 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:14.120 sort of thing that in any other time, in any 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:19.000 other administration, would be a massive front page scandal for weeks, 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:21.480 if not months, if not years. I still remember the 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:24.800 whole thing about the IRS allegedly targeting tea party groups 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:27.440 and not being independent and all of that, and that 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.600 what was it a conversation between Clinton and who was 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:33.280 it at the time, who was Attorney general. I mean, 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:36.840 these things were like massive scandals, and now it's just 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:40.200 out in the open. Trump sees the DOJ as his 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:43.480 personal weapon of political retribution. He's mad at Powell because 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:47.400 he didn't wasn't sufficiently slavish in that exchange, and most critically, 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.880 because he hasn't done what Trump wants him to do 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:52.640 with regard to interest rates. So there's that piece, and 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:55.080 then of course there's the financial piece. So the FED 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:58.160 is supposed to be independent from the executive. Now I 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:00.120 think there is an argument to be made over wether 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:03.319 that is the correct structure or not. However, if in 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:06.960 my opinion, Trump is pushing me more in the other direction, 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:08.880 and I was more open to it before, now I'm like, 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:12.800 do I want Donald Trump to be setting the monetary 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:14.360 policy and the interest rates? 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:15.439 No? I do not know. 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:17.800 I do not want that situation. And you know, I 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:20.680 don't think that Wall Street is excited about that possibility either, 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:23.440 which is why you see this this market crash. The 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:26.640 other thing, Ryan is like Powell's term is up in May. 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:29.880 You only have to wait this like it's a few. 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:31.160 More months, right, What are you doing? 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:32.280 Why now? 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:35.520 But so, and I think that's where you're flagging of this, 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.080 you know, this moment that they exchange and just him 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:41.560 sort of like hating Powell personally, where that really comes 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:43.720 into the mix as well, because he's going to be 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:47.280 able to have his person his like toty loyalist who's 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.439 going to be vetted for you know, his willingness to 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:51.760 do whatever Trump wants him to do in a matter 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:55.200 of months. Very likely, this, if anything, throws a wrench 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.160 into his ability to get that person put a two 0:11:57.280 --> 0:11:59.559 up on the screen. Tom Tellus, who is a Republican 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:03.560 but he's tiring Republican representing North Carolina, says, if there's 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:06.640 any remaining doubt whether advisors within the Trump administration are 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:09.160 actively pushing and the independence of the FED there should 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:12.160 be now none. It is now the independence and credibility 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:13.760 Department of Justice that are in question. 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:15.040 Then this is the critical part. 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:20.319 I will oppose the confirmation of any nominee for the FED, 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:24.480 including the upkedit coming FED chair vacancy, until this legal 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:27.360 matter is fully resolved. So you now at least one 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:30.480 Republican saying I am not going along with anyone until 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:31.840 this whole thing is put to bed. 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:34.160 And why this matters is that he's on the Senate 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:36.920 Banking Committee where the FED appointees would have to go. 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:38.760 So is Chris van Holland we could ask him about 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:42.320 the dynamics there when he's here later, but that means 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:45.760 that if he votes no, because Republicans have a two 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:49.000 seat majority there, that's a deadlocked vote. So then to 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:51.080 get him onto the floor, you'd have to you know, 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:54.560 basically have a floor fight to like pull him out 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:58.200 of committee and go against the committee, which then puts 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:02.160 people like Susan Collins, who's running for you know, in 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:04.160 a competitive seat in Maine, in a tough spot because 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:07.160 it's now like, are you going to you know, go 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:10.680 against the Republican on the banking community so that you 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:14.440 can fuel this corrupt prosecution of the feduer like, so 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:18.160 that puts somebody like a Collins in a very difficult situation, 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:23.439 or even Ricketts in Nebraska who's facing Osborne. 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:24.560 And and and two. 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:26.679 By the way, you know, also many of these senators 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:28.839 are very tied into Wall Street that is not happy 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:31.240 about these moves. So they're you know, at odds between 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:33.439 Trump's desires and the desires of their money. 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:36.959 Yes, that's right, there is this. This is one of 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:40.160 those places where Wall Street, the Wall Street wing of 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.120 the Republican Party is like, bro, what are you doing? 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:46.040 And yeah, I'm I'm with you in this sense that 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:49.800 I've always believed that there should be more democratic control 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:50.920 around the FED. 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:54.760 This is not this is not democratic control though. 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.240 No, this is this is the control of a monarch. 0:13:57.160 --> 0:13:59.440 Right who And you could imagine, like the FED has 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:02.360 all of these differ diferent windows that where they lend 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:06.320 overnight to like if Trump was you know, Trump does 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:09.199 understand lending in interest rates, because that's how he has 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.920 made his career, like just basically playing games with cash 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:15.440 flow and interest rates and bankruptcy laws. He could go 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:18.640 in there and be like, Okay, this bank, let's let's 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:21.200 lend to them at point twenty five. These guys at 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:23.720 point two four, how do you get down to point 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:28.600 two zero? Well, Trump organization, you know, has a little 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:31.720 bitcoin sale going on, you know, pump some money in there. 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:33.840 So like that's it is. 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:34.200 It is. 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:39.120 It is an argument for uh, certainly not allowing just 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:42.400 like the unchecked control by one guy over trillions of 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:43.360 dollars from Trump. 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:48.920 Wanted to get to the very latest with regard to 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:52.120 the killing of Renee Good and the fallout from that. 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.240 The way the administration is handling it, and one of 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:56.200 the ways they're handling it is apparently getting in Twitter 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:59.280 fights with Ryan Grimm. Let's put b one up on 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:02.680 the screen here. This is the vice president. Now imagine 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:06.640 you are vice president of the United States and no offense. Ryan, 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:09.640 I agree, I don't think that this would be how 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:13.040 I'm spending my time personally. So anyway, Ryan said something 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:13.600 I think. 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:14.680 Is objectively correct. 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:18.040 He said that the vice president was genuinely psychotic, innocent. 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:21.280 He shot an unarmed woman twice through a side window 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:24.160 and then called her an effing bitch, let her bleed 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:27.920 out and fled the scene. So this is in reaction 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:32.840 to jd. Vance, you know, completely venerating the Ice agent 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:37.160 who called him innocent, who killed Renee Good, and Jade 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:41.400 Vance replies, these people meaning you are incapable of not 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:45.800 lying about this side window question mark. You can see 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:49.480 the photos of the car with bullet holes. The shots 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:51.960 came from the front of the car because that's where 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:54.840 the officer was standing when he was hit by the car. 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:57.720 He is allowed to discharge his weapon in self defense. 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:01.040 Ryan response, it's interesting. 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:03.400 To go through there and and count the number of 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:05.040 just falsehoods in it. 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:08.360 In his in his claim that you're lying, the number 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:08.920 of lies. 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.240 Yes, like holes is a lie, there's only one hole. 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:17.000 Bullets is a lie. Standing in front of the car 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:18.720 is a lie. 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:21.240 And that he's. 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:24.520 Allowed to discharge his weapon in self defense is generally true, 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:27.720 but not in the circumstances that he put himself in. 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:30.280 He it was self created risk. 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:33.800 Hit by the car does not appear hit. 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:35.560 By the I would lost lost count of all the 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:39.440 incorrect assertions in that thing. If we can put up 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:42.680 this the photo next to show like, if you really 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.800 don't believe me, you put up B two three here. 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:50.480 So this is an image of this is one of 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:53.600 the frames. This is before he has fired his first shot. 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:57.280 MJ kindly circled In turn of m J kindly circled 0:16:57.280 --> 0:16:59.360 the legs there. So for people who are confused, because 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:01.160 it's hard to be because the fact that the other 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:04.200 guy's silhouette is like blocking the other dude, This would 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:08.200 be open and shut across the spectrum if that other 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:10.679 guy wasn't there and you could see him. So now 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:12.920 now here this is. That's the smoke from the first 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:16.119 shot that hits the that does hit the front windshield. 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:17.960 But notice where his legs were. 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:19.440 And look where that shot is. 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:23.879 Okay, that is the front furthest corner of the windshield, 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:26.119 which is not actually what you would hit if you 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:27.880 were standing in front of the. 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:28.840 Car right right. 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:32.119 And so the fact that you can see his legs 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:34.720 means that he was not in front of the car. 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:36.159 If he was in front of the car, you wouldn't 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:37.119 be able to see his legs. 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:38.840 Now what what what Jady Van? 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:43.160 What started this was jd Vance had said, quote, what 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:45.600 the press has done and lying about this innocent law 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.920 enforcement officer is disgusting. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:53.280 And he said that in response to the video that 0:17:53.400 --> 0:18:00.760 came from uh the officer's phone, which we noticed early on, 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:02.080 We're like, wait a minute, is that is that a 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:05.840 phone in his hand? Because he actually he actually filming. 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:07.440 Turns out he was filming. 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:09.960 It was leaked to Alpha News, which is a publication 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:14.439 that has ties has close contact with like police unions 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:17.760 in Minnesota and so. And then the fact that there 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:21.400 was a coordinated, immediate response on the right to say 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:25.840 this is this vindicates him, suggests that they really believe that, 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:28.320 like they put this, they put this footage out and 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:30.840 so let's let's we can roll this, roll this footage. 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:33.399 This is the footage that Jadie Vance was responding to. 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:37.240 So here he is, he gets out of his car. 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:40.160 Here you can see the dog in the car. 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:44.360 He's circling around and then he comes around the side, 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:48.679 and I think this image right here is what the 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:51.119 right was seizing on. They're like, look, she's a liberal. 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:52.960 Look at her face. You can tell she's a liberal. 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:55.119 We told her she was a liberal. She deserved it. 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:58.360 So now what he has here, he's gotten her license, 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:00.879 so he has no reason to like keep her in 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:02.760 the scene, keep her at the scene, or anything else. 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:07.960 He now switches hands, he moves his phone from his 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:11.000 right hand to his left hand, so his now you 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:12.000 see her turn to the right. 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:13.879 You see that, you saw her. 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:15.760 Now he shoots her, and then he calls her in 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:18.879 F and B. So you saw her turning the wheel 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:22.720 to the right. That means he saw her turning the 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:27.040 wheel to the right. His feet are on the side 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:30.480 of the car. He then shoots her once through the 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:34.359 front windshield, twice through the side window. Jade Van sees 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:38.119 that and just completely lies about what's in it. 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:40.560 They seem to that. 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:43.200 I think you're correct that the real thing that they 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:46.639 find to be vindicating here is that these are liberal 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:52.640 lesbian women, right and so for for a rabid online 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:57.800 movement like the New Right online Edge, lord's the fact 0:19:57.880 --> 0:20:01.840 that they look like they're liberal and their lesbians means 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:04.600 they deserved it, and that is the real I think 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:07.280 that is the primary point of the video. And you've 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:10.520 got you know, the one woman, her wife, Rene's wife 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:13.800 who's there sassing the officer, are basically fat jaming him. 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:15.600 And did they bleep out her saying that she was 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:16.520 a veteran or something. 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:19.240 I don't know, And I think that's worth mentioning too, 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:21.679 is like this, we have no way of knowing if 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:24.399 this was edited in any way also to make this 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:26.800 as favorable as possible for him. But then the other 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:29.520 thing that they seized on is, you know, at the 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:32.040 end when he fires the shots, the phone kind of 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:35.240 goes and they act like that's definitive that he gets hit, 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:37.880 even though the video does not show that at all, 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:40.680 and in fact, we have much clear videos. We showed 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:43.200 one on the show on Friday, and New York Times 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:45.600 did an analysis. Wall Street Journal did an analysis that 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:48.800 found no, he actually wasn't even grazed by the car. 0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:51.240 He was to the side of the car. He was 0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:52.200 not hit by the car. 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:54.600 But because the phone kind of like goes crazy in 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:57.080 that moment, they oh he got hit, I saw someone, 0:20:57.119 --> 0:20:57.920 Oh he got hit And he. 0:20:57.880 --> 0:21:01.639 Got hit hard. This proves that conclusively, like it literally doesn't. 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:04.240 And it makes you feel like you're going crazy when 0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:08.080 you watch these videos and it is so clear what 0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:10.840 is going on here, Like she was trying to leave. 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:12.920 Now you may say she shouldn't have done that. There's 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:16.639 also it's also very clear she was receiving contradictory orders 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:19.560 at that point, so it was impossible for her to comply. 0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:23.159 So in any case, you could say she didn't do 0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:26.120 the right thing by trying to leave the scene. Does 0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:29.480 that justify her getting shot in the face three times? 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:30.840 You know, we've seen now. 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:34.800 Multiple videos of protesters who position themselves in front of 0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:37.720 ice vehicles, including you brought this up on the show, 0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:39.080 or actually Emily brought it up, and then you were 0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:41.680 challenging her on at kat Aba Gazella, who's a congressional 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:45.400 candidate in Chicago, where you know they're trying to prosecute 0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:48.320 her because she was part of a group that was 0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:51.919 trying to stand in front of an ice vehicle and 0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:54.960 they're getting pushed by that ice vehicle. Okay, So by 0:21:54.960 --> 0:21:58.400 this logic, was her life in danger which she justified 0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:00.320 to you know, if she had a weapon pulled out 0:22:00.359 --> 0:22:02.840 and shoot the ICE agent driving the car in the face. 0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:05.399 Of course, not like anyone would look at that and 0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:09.399 say that's absolutely insane, not to mention it wouldn't like 0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:11.520 it wouldn't solve the problem because the car would then 0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:14.040 keep going. Right, Now, you have what I saw one 0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:17.520 law enforcement you know, I think retired law enforcement agents 0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:20.240 said this. Then you have an unguided missile. Then that 0:22:20.280 --> 0:22:23.680 creates other safety. Imagine there's children playing, Imagine there's other 0:22:23.720 --> 0:22:26.119 people around, and you have now this car careening with 0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:30.320 the dead person at the wheel. So you know, the 0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:35.160 whole thing and the approach to it, the immediate tagging 0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:39.919 of her as a domestic terrorist, and the not just 0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:45.320 the defense of but the veneration of this officer, and 0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:49.040 the comments from JD. Vance that ICE agents have like him, 0:22:49.040 --> 0:22:54.160 have absolute immunity. You know, we are already seeing them 0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:55.560 sort of taking and running with that. I mean the 0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:58.600 number of videos I've seen of them just randomly assaulting people. 0:22:58.680 --> 0:23:00.840 We had another shooting and poor still don't know the 0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:02.560 details of that. Two people were shot there. The government 0:23:02.600 --> 0:23:05.119 story is already not adding up with regards to the 0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:08.119 details that have come out there. So you know, the 0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:11.919 willingness to just completely deny reality is something that is 0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:13.359 very hard for me to grapple with. 0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:17.040 It is it's very tough, and Christy Gnome has really 0:23:17.080 --> 0:23:20.400 led the way in that with her initial press conference 0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:24.360 where she basically said implied that he was dragged by 0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:24.680 the car. 0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:28.840 Like she said just before we play this club, she said, 0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:32.080 one of the vehicles, the ICE vehicles became stuck and 0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:34.080 ensnare in the snow. No sign of that in any 0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:36.800 of the videos we've seen. Law enforcement were attempting to 0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:38.919 push out this vehicle. Have you seen any of that. No, 0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:41.560 we've seen no video of that. When a mob of 0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:46.000 agitators that were harassing them all day again we know 0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:49.000 she had just dropped her kid off at preschool or 0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:53.199 at school, began blocking them in, shouting at them and 0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:56.600 impeding law enforcement operations. ICE officers and agents approached the 0:23:56.640 --> 0:23:59.719 vehicle of the individual in question who was blocking the officers. 0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:02.159 We saw her wave them by by the way roadway 0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:04.720 they could have gone by and with her vehicle, and 0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:06.680 she'd been starting compeeding their work all throughout the day. 0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:08.879 ICE agents repeatedly ordered her to get out of the 0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:11.560 car and to stop obstructing law enforcement. She refused to 0:24:11.600 --> 0:24:14.800 obey their commands. She then proceeded to weaponize her vehicle, 0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:17.920 and she attempted to run a law enforcement officer over. 0:24:18.240 --> 0:24:20.399 That's what she had said, and let's go ahead and play. So, 0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:21.640 Jake Tapper, just. 0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:24.200 Real quick before you go it, because there's this debate 0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:26.600 about whether or not she was quote unquote stalking them, 0:24:26.640 --> 0:24:29.840 which doesn't change anything about whether or not it's justified 0:24:29.880 --> 0:24:32.080 in shooting her. Right, the shooting was at nine thirty 0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:36.520 five am, and we know for sure they dropped the 0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:39.600 kid off at school. I don't know exactly when school started. 0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:43.440 Anybody who was watching this either has kids in school 0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:47.240 or has gone to school themselves. It's not that much 0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:50.320 before nine thirty five, Like, there's no even if it 0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:52.359 even as one of these early starting schools of like 0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:55.520 seven fifty or something like that, that at most would 0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:57.879 give them ninety minutes to be following them around. But 0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:01.640 that doesn't remotely appear to be the case. Yes, there, 0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:03.840 it looks like a couple of minutes like this was 0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:07.000 like this was activism of opportunity. They're like coming home 0:25:07.000 --> 0:25:09.080 from dropping the kid off and they see. 0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:10.280 This is in the neighborhood. 0:25:10.280 --> 0:25:13.240 Street they lived blocked away, and so they're like let's 0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:16.399 get out and like let's let's protest this like that. 0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:20.200 So this is not like some like antifat trained situation 0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:22.160 where they're like been stalking them all day long. 0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:25.359 Again, nine to thirty five am is when this is happening. 0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:30.240 So yeah, anyway, So Christy Nome again on Jake Tapper's show, 0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:31.240 Why did you. 0:25:31.240 --> 0:25:33.760 Not wait for an investigation before making your comments? 0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:34.119 Oh? 0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:36.439 Well, everything that I've said has been proven to be 0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:41.240 factual in the truth. This administration wants to operate in transparency. 0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:45.040 I have the responsibility as the Secretary of Homeland Security 0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:47.919 to know this information as soon as possible. Had just 0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:51.119 been in Minneapolis the day before, had already had conversations 0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:54.879 with officers on the ground and supervisors and knew the facts, 0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:57.520 and has decided that the department and the people of 0:25:57.560 --> 0:26:00.200 this country deserve to know the truth that the situation 0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:01.800 of what had unfolded in Minneapolis. 0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:02.280 With all the. 0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:06.760 Respect, Secretary, the first thing you said was, quote, what 0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:09.400 happened was our ice officers were out in an enforcement action. 0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:12.040 They got stuck in the snow because of the adverse 0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:14.960 weather that is in Minneapolis. They were attempting to push 0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:17.160 out their vehicle, and a woman attacked them and those 0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:19.320 surrounding them and attempted to run them over and ram 0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:20.359 them with her vehicle. 0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:22.320 That's not what happened. We all saw. 0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:25.159 What happened, absolutely is what happened. Those officers had been 0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:27.879 out in an enforcement action. A vehicle had been stuck. 0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:30.440 They had come to help get that vehicle out. That's 0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:34.520 when this individual started blocking traffic for minutes and minute. 0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:37.240 They said that the woman attacked them and surrounded them 0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:39.680 and attempted to run them over and ram them with their. 0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:42.760 Vehicle, blocked the road for a long time, and was 0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:46.600 yelling at them and impeding a federal law enforcement investigation. 0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:49.240 She should have responded, I'm not so sure I agree 0:26:49.240 --> 0:26:52.800 with your police work there. It's so weird having a 0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:56.080 Fargo type character as part of this whole thing, like 0:26:56.200 --> 0:26:59.440 what happened to the whole Northwest nice thing or. 0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:02.040 The like, not with the puppy killers. 0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:04.440 But yet this is what happened. Yeah, actually that is 0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:04.879 what happened. 0:27:04.920 --> 0:27:07.440 Like we can see the video. 0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:09.639 We saw it, you know, I mean, And that's the 0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:13.639 point is like they I think I think it is 0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:17.879 the message they want to go out to all to 0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:21.000 all of America and especially to ICE and CPP and 0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:23.359 all of these you know, federal agents and they're kidded 0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:26.400 out gear who've been searched into various cities. Is that 0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:28.600 we will make shit up on your behalf. 0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:29.600 We will completely lie. 0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:31.679 You can do whatever you want, and we will defend 0:27:31.720 --> 0:27:35.119 it in a like humiliating an embarrassing way, in a 0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:39.679 way that is completely disconnected from reality. Doesn't matter if 0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:41.240 there's a video, it doesn't matter if people can see 0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:43.840 with their own eyes that something completely different happened. We 0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:45.520 will go to the map for you, and we will 0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:49.480 lie on your behalf publicly and repeatedly. And I think 0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:52.359 you know, so it's not an accident that this is 0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:54.800 the way they approach it. The other thing here is 0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:59.360 Tapper asked, you know, made a comparison between people who 0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:04.199 actually only beat up police officers on January sixth and 0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:08.439 were pardoned by this president versus this woman. And I 0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:11.360 think many people, myself included, have pointed out like, Okay, 0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:14.439 so you know, you guys are very upset about Ashley Babbitt. 0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:16.720 I think there's some actually justification to be upset about 0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:21.280 Ashley Pabbitt, Would it have been justified for many other 0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:25.200 protesters writers on January sixth, you have been killed by 0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:30.160 the cops there who were actually getting beaten and violently threatened. 0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:32.640 Let's go and take a listen to tap or make 0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:33.600 that comparison with her. 0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:43.480 Those are law enforcement officers being physically attacked by this standard, 0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:47.040 Would any of those officers being justified and shooting and 0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:49.320 killing the people causing them physical harm? 0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:53.560 Every single situation is going to rely on the situation 0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:55.880 those officers are on. That they know that when people 0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:58.920 are putting hands on them, when they are using weapons 0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:02.080 against them, when they are physically harming them, that they 0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:04.160 have the authority to arrest those individuals. 0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:06.800 President every single one of those people. 0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:10.200 And make sure that they're getting justice for their actions. 0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:10.800 Going forward. 0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:13.160 President Trump pardoned every single one of those Every. 0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:16.360 Single one of these investigations comes in the full context 0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:18.880 of the situation on the ground. And that's one thing 0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:21.800 that President Trump has been so focused on is making 0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:23.520 sure that when we're out there, we don't pick and 0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:27.560 choose which situations are in which laws are enforced and 0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:30.560 which ones aren't. Every single one of them is being 0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:33.840 enforced under the Trump administration and the clarity of the 0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:36.640 law stands, and if people don't like it, these members 0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:39.200 of Congress and elected officials should go change the law 0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:40.840 and make sure they have that debate in policy. 0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:45.520 I just showed you video of people attacking law enforcement officers, 0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:51.200 undisputed proof, undisputed evidence, and I just said President Trump 0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:54.200 pardoned all of them. And you said that President Trump 0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:55.800 is enforcing all the laws equally. 0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:57.560 It's just not true. 0:29:57.800 --> 0:30:01.360 There's a different standard for law enforcement officials being attacked 0:30:01.680 --> 0:30:03.320 if they're being attacked by Trump supporters. 0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:04.080 We just saw them. 0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:08.640 This individual and these instances and these investigations all have 0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:11.920 to be taken and done and done correctly in context 0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:13.960 of every situation that is happening on the ground. 0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:17.480 I mean, the whole thing is just in group versus 0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:20.680 out group, and it's deeply un American, and the idea 0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:23.400 is supposed to be not that we've ever lived up 0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:25.640 to it, but there's one standard of justice for all. 0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:26.200 Right. 0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:29.560 They don't accept that. They genuinely don't. And that's where 0:30:29.600 --> 0:30:31.720 you know, included in on the video that they were 0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:34.600 so excited to share. What they wanted you to get 0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:36.680 is this is the out group. So they deserved it, 0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:40.560 whereas January sixth rioters who were some of whom were 0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:41.640 actually assaulting police. 0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:43.400 Well, that's the end group. So it's totally different. 0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:46.320 And you know, that's what Trump's pardon schemes, that's what 0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:49.240 that's about as well, Like, oh, well they're on my 0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:51.720 team now, so you know, even though you may have 0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:55.560 been a former president who actually was involved in narco 0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:58.880 trafficking a quote unquote narco terrorists, that's the term of art, 0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:02.840 now doesn't matter because you're on our team. So you 0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:05.880 can do yeah, you can you can do yeah. You're 0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:08.080 you're close with Peter Tiel and whatever, so you can 0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:11.920 do whatever you want. And you know, and there is 0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:14.680 he has said himself like he claims the powers of 0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:17.000 the monarch, that the only limits to his power are 0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:18.760 his own morality. 0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:20.280 Is that is the quote. 0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:23.360 So they don't accept the idea that there should be 0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:26.600 one standard of justice. They they want to rip that apart. 0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:28.640 They want to change that in the minds of the 0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:31.640 American public. And I think you have to say, with 0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:34.959 regard to their own base, they have accomplished that. Now, Look, 0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:38.800 everybody is guilty on some level of hypocrisy, right of 0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:42.160 there's a lot of tribal thinking and partisan brain. There's 0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:44.520 no doubt about that. That that is, you know, something 0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:47.880 that happens across the board. This is really something different 0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:50.600 in terms of the weaponization, the use of the federal 0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:56.080 government to try to codify and to actualize a reality 0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:59.000 where all that matters is whether you're on the in 0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:01.800 group or in the end group. And you know, I 0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:04.440 don't think it'll work. I think people are disgusted by it. 0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:06.840 I actually be curious for your take on you know, 0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:09.280 how you think this is going, like for JD. Vance 0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:13.520 and his presidential ambitions, But they've convinced themselves that this 0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:17.520 is a strong place politically to stand. I don't think, 0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:23.000 you know, it couldn't be further from the truth. Abolished ice, 0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:25.120 which used to be you know, sort of a fringe sentiment, 0:32:25.240 --> 0:32:30.320 is creeping up on majoritary position. Yeah, and the overwhelming 0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:32.480 majority of Americans say that they use way too much 0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:34.440 force and they're out of control because they can see 0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:36.640 these videos and so this is insane, right. I mean, 0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:39.360 as much criticism as I've had for local police officer, 0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:42.400 like you would never see them behaving in this completely 0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:48.840 like just routinely in every situation, totally insane and illegal manner. 0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:53.640 Yeah, I think it is jd Vance tying himself unnecessarily, 0:32:53.720 --> 0:32:57.240 even like he didn't have to jump in here to 0:32:57.400 --> 0:33:01.040 the least popular elements of this version of trump Ism 0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:03.680 or Maganism like that. So I think it's extremely damaging 0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:06.880 to him. I think clearly AOC who I don't think 0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:10.080 will be his opponent this time, but maybe twenty thirty 0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:14.280 two more likely you've seen her kind of say, like 0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:16.239 the difference between me and Jade Vances, I don't think 0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:17.880 that the American people should be shot in the face. 0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:24.720 Like it's like, how did you wind up positioning yourself 0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:27.440 in defense of this guy calling him innocent, saying he 0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:31.480 should be thanked for what he did when the entire 0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:37.360 country like saw what he did. Yeah, so yeah, I 0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:41.400 think it's actually extraordinarily dangerous for him politically, Like I think, 0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:45.200 and I think he recognizes that. I think he's a 0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:50.160 bit impulsive. He posts too much, and now he's out there, 0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:54.520 and I think that's why he's saying just completely false 0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:57.560 things because he wants to establish, at least among the 0:33:57.560 --> 0:34:01.760 Republican base, a set of facts which are that I'm 0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:03.640 putting facts in quote here and the facts he wants 0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:06.760 to establish are this guy was hit by the car 0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:11.040 and that he and then the you know, the bullets 0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:13.439 came through the front windshield, Like he needs he wants 0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:15.680 those quote unquote facts to be established. And then no 0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:17.759 one wants to show you that grainy, sped up video 0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:21.520 that they've been circulating. Yeah, which if you if that's 0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:23.160 all you saw, you'd be like, oh, it does kind 0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:26.319 of look like he gets bumped in that footage. Then 0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:28.719 if you watch it in the regular speed and you 0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:30.600 watch it in context with the other body, you're like, oh, 0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:31.279 he didn't get hit. 0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:34.000 Well, I don't think he really cares about what facts 0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:37.360 he establishes. I think he wants the like white nationalist 0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:40.200 Graper part of the base to forgive him for having 0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:42.960 an Indian wife and and. 0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:45.880 This is his work. It's not going to happen. 0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:50.799 This is his attempt to convince them that he's he's 0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:53.359 one of them, he's one of them, that he will 0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:56.200 go full fascist, that he's all in on the race war, 0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:59.000 that he will lie on behalf of the regime. Like 0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:01.799 he wants to convince them that he is one of 0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:04.040 the good ones and he is not actually a race trader, 0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:06.799 and you know, I don't think that is ever going 0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:08.360 to work out for him, but he doesn't seem to 0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:09.200 have figured that out. 0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:11.880 This next piece I think is important. 0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:15.760 Tom Homan, who it's worth remembering like actually got the job, 0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:18.839 got his initial job in government under Obama. 0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:19.920 Was where he was really elevated. 0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:24.400 His initial reaction after this happened was kind of like 0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:26.960 the normal reaction you might expect, where he was like, 0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:29.399 we should have an investigation, right, not. 0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:31.640 Going to say anything about this until the investigation plays out. 0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:36.120 And Tom Holman is a disgusting, psychopathic cretan, okay, but 0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:38.480 even he was like, we should have an investigation and 0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:39.280 then we'll see. 0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:41.400 He has since shifted. 0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:43.839 His tone as he's picked up on what this administration, 0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:46.719 this regime expects him to do. He got asked about 0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:50.799 this question of do you think she's a domestic terrorist? 0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:52.640 Let's go ahead and take a listen to this, because 0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:54.160 I think this is an important piece. 0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:59.040 Is anyone who protests ice a domestic terrorist in the 0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:00.000 eyes of the administs? 0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:02.239 I can't say that. You know, it's a case by 0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:04.759 case basis, but you know, if you look up definition 0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:07.840 of terrorism, is there violence, is there threat? Of violence 0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:11.759 based on an ideology that wants to change the way 0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:15.640 the government does what we do. Look up the definition terrorism. 0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:18.920 With Secretary Nome correct to label her a domestic terrorist. 0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:21.920 Mister Homan, look, we don't know what. 0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:22.719 I don't know. 0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:25.879 If Secretary Nome knows, what I know, I can tell 0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:27.880 you is what they did is illegal. And if you 0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:30.640 look up this definition of terrorism, it certainly could fall 0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:32.919 within that definition. If you look at definition, you don't 0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:33.520 have evidence. 0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:36.920 Pardon you don't have evidence that she's a domestic terrorist. 0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:38.280 I don't know. 0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:41.120 What secretary has that I don't I'm not going to 0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:43.279 judge what the Secretary says, but if you look up 0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:45.640 the definition of terrorism, it certainly can fall within that. 0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:48.360 So Ryan, he says, if you look up the definition, 0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:51.680 and true enough, if you look up the definition as 0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:55.560 offered by this government, he's probably right. And he says 0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:58.960 something else, that's like, she has an ideology that wants 0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:03.560 to change how we do what we do. Isn't I mean, 0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:06.920 aren't we allowed to have an opinion about how the government? 0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:08.480 But in their they think no. 0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:11.760 And this is where Ken Klippenstein's reporting about NSPM seven 0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:16.279 comes in. They genuinely want to define any protesters, like 0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:19.040 anyone who does disagree with how they do what they do. 0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:22.680 They think that's illegitimate. They think we won the election, 0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:24.480 we get to do whatever the fuck we want, and 0:37:24.520 --> 0:37:26.560 you don't get to really say anything. And if you 0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:29.399 do step out on the line in any way, yeah, 0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:32.200 we we think you should be put in this category 0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:34.319 of domestic terror. So I think in their minds and 0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:36.560 according to the definition, which you know, the definition of 0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:38.640 terrorism is sort of like always fake and made of 0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:44.280 and extremely political by their definition, they genuinely see. 0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:44.560 Her that way. 0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:47.600 Well, they've some elements of the administration have called the 0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:50.160 Democratic Party like domestic terrorists. 0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:51.480 That's right, Yeah, that's exactly right. 0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:56.160 They don't think that opposition is legitimate, even the incredibly weak, 0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:59.719 barely existent opposition offered by the Democratic Party. 0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:01.799 They find that to be too much. 0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:04.400 And what they have managed to do is create actual opposition. 0:38:05.360 --> 0:38:07.680 If you've been watching this show, you you've noticed over 0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:10.080 the kind of first year of the Trump administration. 0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:13.520 And Trump himself even commented on this. 0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:15.560 He said, Wow, I thought there'd be more opposition to me, 0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:19.359 but the opposition is basically just rolled over, And that 0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:21.279 was that was more or less the case other than 0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:24.040 like Chris van Holland going down to El Salvador and 0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:27.120 a few cases here and there. The party was just 0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:29.120 flat on its back, and so were a lot of 0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:36.200 activist groups. Now because of them constantly poking this bear, 0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:38.759 people are actually starting to rise up and can put 0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:42.239 up b seven here. So it's not just that people 0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:44.680 are now coming out in the streets of Minneapolis and 0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:49.440 confronting Ice wherever they find themselves. You know, they try 0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:51.920 to go to the bathroom a target, and they just 0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:53.840 and they just get yelled at the. 0:38:53.960 --> 0:38:55.879 Entire way in and the entire entire way out. 0:38:56.719 --> 0:39:01.000 They have lost all legitimacy within in the cities where 0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:05.080 they're trying to operate. And now states democratic states are 0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:09.480 trying to figure out different ways that they can set 0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:14.040 themselves up in an adversarial posture to Ice, and they're 0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:17.840 seeing that the polling is against ICE and with opposition 0:39:17.920 --> 0:39:22.960 to ICE. So the Trump administration came in with the 0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:26.480 administration flat on its back and with public opinion on 0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:30.600 their side when it came to kind of reversing Biden's immigration. 0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:31.800 Policies, and. 0:39:33.200 --> 0:39:36.600 Because of Stephen Miller's need for these kinds of images 0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:41.239 they have now kind of flipped the entire political table 0:39:41.239 --> 0:39:41.799 against them. 0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:42.280 Yeah. 0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:45.080 Well, and I think that point about legitimacy is very 0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:48.359 important because if you talk to law enforcement officers, I mean, 0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:50.759 you will not be able to operate effectively. You have 0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:53.560 to have some consent from the local community. And that's 0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:56.680 actually what sanctuary city policies are about, because the idea 0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:59.400 is if there's no trust with local law enforcement. 0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:01.560 You know, in immigrant communities. 0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:02.719 Where you have a lot of mixed status families, where 0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:05.600 you have a significant number of undocumented immigrants, you're going 0:40:05.640 --> 0:40:07.719 to have more rampant crime because people are not going 0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:09.480 to talk to the local cops about what's going on. 0:40:09.560 --> 0:40:12.200 They're not going to assist in investigations, and so that 0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:15.239 is part of the rationale, and there's a lot you know, 0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:18.400 there's studies that bear this out. It's a public safety 0:40:18.480 --> 0:40:22.200 rationale behind sanctuary city policies. But yeah, I mean, if 0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:26.080 you go into Minneapolis and everyone there hates your guts 0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:29.880 and are chasing around with whistles to alert everyone to 0:40:30.239 --> 0:40:32.359 you're in the neighborhood and this is what's going on, 0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:35.360 You're going to have a lot harder time actually operating. 0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:39.440 I mean, Obama earned his moniker to Porter in chief, 0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:42.560 did it in a much I mean, I don't support it. 0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:45.080 I think he did also things that were cruel, though 0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:48.920 not anything approaching this level of just like mass thugs, 0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:52.240 jack booted, thugs in the street, insanity with the largest 0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:55.920 law enforcement budget of anywhere, of any time, but he 0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:58.120 was very efficient in what he was. He was actually 0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:01.040 much more effective, in particular at getting the quote unquote 0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:02.600 worse the worst, which is what they're supposed to be 0:41:02.600 --> 0:41:06.600 going after, because they actually put investigatory resources towards focusing 0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:11.160 and prosecutorial resources towards focusing on criminals first and foremosts 0:41:11.160 --> 0:41:14.960 and prioritizing them. So you know, the goal here is 0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:19.840 not actually to sweep up the most number of immigrants possible. 0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:22.160 The goal is this show of. 0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:26.280 Force, and not just to scare immigrants, to scare anyone 0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:27.760 who would oppose this government. 0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:29.680 That's what this is actually about. 0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:32.880 It's you know, immigration is obviously part of it, and 0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:35.920 those are the people who are most in the sights 0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:38.279 of these mass thugs in the streets and of this 0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:41.520 administration in general. But you know, when they're when they're 0:41:41.560 --> 0:41:45.400 recording videos, all this surveillance there's new reporting out about 0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:48.520 mass surveillance systems also in the context of this immigration 0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:52.400 sweep that is not just targeted at immigrants. It's certainly 0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:55.440 not just targeted undocumented undocumented immigrants. 0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:58.000 This is about this is about all of us. This 0:41:58.160 --> 0:42:01.840 is about the way, the very radical. 0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:04.680 And revolutionary, very negative sense, in my opinion, way that 0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:08.040 they want this country to be, in this country to operate. 0:42:08.360 --> 0:42:11.680 So when you put together the largest law enforcement agency 0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:14.440 by budget in history, with now Trump asking for one 0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:17.480 point five trillion dollar defense budget, I mean, you get 0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:20.719 the sense of they really want to concentrate tax payer 0:42:20.840 --> 0:42:25.680 resources in a police, surveillance and military state. That is 0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:28.560 the direction that they're pushing things in, and immigration is 0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:32.439 the pretext for the build up of that. 0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:33.439 Capacity, right. 0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:36.040 And the other way that the federal government could have 0:42:36.080 --> 0:42:38.759 gone about this is to say that this may have 0:42:38.800 --> 0:42:40.680 been a crime, and we're going to investigate it. 0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:41.839 The officers going on leave. 0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:46.239 They have instead squarely positioned themselves on the other side 0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:49.279 and put b eight the Daily Mail reporting that a 0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:53.919 bunch of masked ICE agents we're photographed removing a whole 0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:54.640 bunch of stuff. 0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:56.200 Yeah, and I don't know if we know if they 0:42:56.200 --> 0:43:00.359 are ICE or FBI. I think the theory that this 0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:03.760 is actually FBI removing a bunch of stuff from Jonathan 0:43:03.840 --> 0:43:08.640 Ross's house. He appears to have fled with his family, 0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:14.160 and so you know, is this evidence is it just 0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:16.840 his belongings that he wasn't able to grab and they're 0:43:16.920 --> 0:43:20.279 you know, helping him out. But the FBI has now 0:43:20.320 --> 0:43:23.960 blocked state and local officials from being involved in the 0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:27.319 investigation at all. And you know, I don't think that 0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:30.040 they care that it is blatantly appears to be a 0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:32.839 cover up. After the everybody from the President down to 0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:35.520 you know, the vice for everybody involved has already said no, 0:43:35.560 --> 0:43:38.800 he's innocent, Like there's no one even if they hadn't 0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:40.759 done that, I don't think anyone would have confidence that 0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:43.919 cash Betel's FBI is going to do like a straightforward, 0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:47.480 bang up, unbiased job in any of this. But you know, 0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:50.680 it's it's clear what conclusion they have already made. They 0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:52.960 have no interest in actually gathering the facts. There are 0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:55.160 enough facts available, I think to all of us already 0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:58.359 to see that this was you know, this was not 0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:00.279 justified in any way. I mean, he put him self 0:44:00.280 --> 0:44:02.000 in front of that car, which in and of itself, 0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:05.880 that officer is called officer created jeopardy. Like you're trained 0:44:05.920 --> 0:44:08.399 not to do that, and yet not just with him, 0:44:08.480 --> 0:44:10.400 strips you of your defense, and it strips you of 0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:13.480 your defense. That's exactly right, not just with him, but 0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:16.439 this seems to be a pattern in practice with ICE 0:44:16.560 --> 0:44:19.560 end with CBP, going back years. There's a twenty fourteen 0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:22.480 article that's circulating now about how they how they do this, 0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:26.040 how they put themselves intentionally in danger in order to 0:44:26.239 --> 0:44:28.160 justify using deadly force. 0:44:29.160 --> 0:44:35.239 Yeah, and so the put up B nine here, this 0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:39.440 is you know, there is the tensions are continuing to escalate. 0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:40.000 Here. 0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:42.240 You have the guy pointing, you know, first he points 0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:45.120 this his like riot control weapon at the at the 0:44:45.160 --> 0:44:48.279 person and then pulls pulls a gun out and put 0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:49.960 puts it right in the pulls it right in the 0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:56.160 person's face. Just just utterly, utterly provocative in a way 0:44:56.200 --> 0:45:01.920 that seems designed to kind of increased tensions. 0:45:02.040 --> 0:45:07.920 Yes, let's go ahead and turn to some interesting comments 0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:10.799 from Tim Dillon. And you know, I find what he 0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:15.000 says noteworthy because obviously he was a supporter of this administration. 0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:18.399 He is an immigration restrictionist. I listened to this whole thing, 0:45:18.480 --> 0:45:21.120 by the way it is, he does his classic like 0:45:21.160 --> 0:45:23.480 sort of both sides the stuff, but the clips that 0:45:23.480 --> 0:45:26.520 have gone viral are where he's not backing up the 0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:29.719 administration in this really at all. Let's go ahead and 0:45:29.760 --> 0:45:32.759 take a listen to Tim Dillon talking about how he 0:45:32.800 --> 0:45:34.839 does not think that this officer feared for his life 0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:35.360 in that moment. 0:45:35.800 --> 0:45:40.399 Now, I don't believe from the angle I'm watching that 0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:47.800 the federal officer feared for his life at the speed 0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:51.680 she's going, when she's turning the wheel, I don't believe 0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:54.960 that the federal officer feared for his life. He could 0:45:54.960 --> 0:45:58.800 have shot the tires, it could have done other things. 0:45:58.840 --> 0:46:01.720 This idea that everyone just they have to just shoot 0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:02.319 them in the head. 0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:05.200 So he says, I do not believe this officer feared 0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:07.920 for his life. He goes on to really go after 0:46:08.320 --> 0:46:12.000 the ICE agents for their lack of training. Now with 0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:15.240 this guy, that's no excuse because I think he'd been involved. 0:46:15.280 --> 0:46:18.120 I saw like nineteen years he's been you know, ICBP 0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:23.520 whatever involved in some way, and again we'll talk about 0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:25.200 it on the other side, But in any case, he 0:46:25.239 --> 0:46:28.120 also goes after the ICE agents for their their lack 0:46:28.160 --> 0:46:30.399 of training and professionalism. Let's say, let's take a listen 0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:30.640 to that. 0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:33.920 I don't believe the cop was justified in shooting her 0:46:33.960 --> 0:46:37.400 three times in the face. By the way, I've always 0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:42.160 believed this, and this is something that I've quit heat for, 0:46:42.280 --> 0:46:44.960 but I've literally believed since I'm a kid. I don't 0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:47.040 believe you should ever shoot someone in the face more 0:46:47.080 --> 0:46:53.759 than once. I've no, seriously, I think I just think 0:46:53.760 --> 0:47:00.120 it's ridiculous so that they did that, and they you know, 0:47:00.160 --> 0:47:03.880 the guy there, These are not well trained law enforcement 0:47:03.920 --> 0:47:08.160 people in Ice right now. We're taking people that did 0:47:08.200 --> 0:47:14.279 backyard wrestling. I mean, we are the people that are 0:47:14.320 --> 0:47:18.399 in Ice right now are I mean, this is your 0:47:18.600 --> 0:47:24.120 cousin who like was in backyard wrestling, Like this is tough. 0:47:25.520 --> 0:47:27.600 This is not the cream of the crop, you know, 0:47:27.640 --> 0:47:31.000 the guys your kidnapped Maduro Like Delta Force Navy seals. 0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:34.640 This is not them. This is not the Delta Force 0:47:34.719 --> 0:47:35.640 Navy Seal people. 0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:39.920 This is people that like had This is people in 0:47:39.960 --> 0:47:42.319 their third grade rapport card the teacher where they has 0:47:42.440 --> 0:47:43.600 violent tendencies. 0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:47.080 I saw one of the Chapbo guys said that this 0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:50.560 was like a war of the unemployable versus the employed. 0:47:51.080 --> 0:47:52.920 And I thought that kind of nailed it too, But 0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:55.239 you know, this guy doesn't have that excuse, And in 0:47:55.239 --> 0:47:57.520 a sense, I think it's a little bit of a 0:47:57.640 --> 0:47:59.479 and I would soccer and I and aren't very lengthy 0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:02.120 debate talk to some about the training as well, which 0:48:02.160 --> 0:48:04.280 is obviously an issue when you turn loose a bunch 0:48:04.320 --> 0:48:07.480 of like thugs who have watched this sort of stuff 0:48:07.520 --> 0:48:09.799 and been like, that's what I want to do, and 0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:12.160 you give them forty seven in honor of our great 0:48:12.160 --> 0:48:15.839 president days of training, and there's reports coming out saying 0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:17.799 that many of them can like barely read and write, 0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:20.000 and you just turn them loose and have the vice 0:48:20.040 --> 0:48:22.800 president say you have absolute immunity, Like that is a problem. 0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:25.360 That is definitely a problem. But I also think in 0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:29.160 a sense, the training, like the fact that this man 0:48:29.239 --> 0:48:32.640 has been on the job for years, for like many years, 0:48:33.320 --> 0:48:35.520 I think in a sense the training is also the 0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:40.239 problem because clearly, again the way he operated here, it's 0:48:40.320 --> 0:48:42.600 not just him. It's not just him that's recording with 0:48:42.640 --> 0:48:46.319 the iPhone, right, there's pressure, both for surveillance reasons and 0:48:46.360 --> 0:48:49.960 also for content creation reasons to be recording all these 0:48:49.960 --> 0:48:52.560 interactions and hope that you get on the next viral 0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:56.680 hype reel. Right, the moving around the front of the vehicle. Now, 0:48:56.680 --> 0:48:58.239 by the time the shots are fired, he's to the 0:48:58.280 --> 0:49:00.840 side of the vehicle. But walking in front of a 0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:05.239 vehicle with the engine on is directly contradictory to what 0:49:05.440 --> 0:49:08.200 any local law enforcement I mean, they have years and 0:49:08.280 --> 0:49:11.960 years and years decades of training like data of how 0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:14.440 it goes and how you're supposed to approach in a 0:49:14.480 --> 0:49:17.440 situation where you've got a vehicle where the engine is on, 0:49:17.920 --> 0:49:21.040 and that is contrary to any of those training books. 0:49:21.120 --> 0:49:25.520 Yet what you see is many this is done. The 0:49:25.600 --> 0:49:28.480 same maneuver is used in many, many instances where they 0:49:28.520 --> 0:49:32.560 try to block in the vehicle with their body and 0:49:32.640 --> 0:49:35.640 put themselves into that jeopardy so that they can then 0:49:35.880 --> 0:49:40.279 justify more aggressive and in this case, deadly tactics. So 0:49:40.600 --> 0:49:42.799 I don't think the problem was that he didn't know 0:49:42.840 --> 0:49:45.000 what he was doing. I think he knew exactly what 0:49:45.080 --> 0:49:47.280 he was doing, because you can see in that video, 0:49:47.320 --> 0:49:49.960 you know, when he switches the camera phone from his 0:49:50.040 --> 0:49:52.000 right to his left so that he's got his you know, 0:49:52.040 --> 0:49:55.640 his trigger finger ready to go. This is someone who 0:49:55.840 --> 0:49:59.360 actually was very in control and knew exactly what he 0:49:59.440 --> 0:50:01.400 was doing in that moment, right. 0:50:01.840 --> 0:50:04.239 And he finishes it with F and B like and 0:50:04.600 --> 0:50:07.600 then they block medical care like so, and it's a 0:50:07.640 --> 0:50:11.719 case where you're where and the lawyers you've looked at 0:50:11.760 --> 0:50:13.800 this said like that also is going to be a 0:50:13.880 --> 0:50:16.240 huge problem if it ever got in front of a jury, 0:50:16.520 --> 0:50:21.480 because if this was purely self defense, then how do 0:50:21.520 --> 0:50:23.920 you justify for forget the second and third shots, not 0:50:24.080 --> 0:50:27.120 trying to help her with medical care. 0:50:27.280 --> 0:50:31.400 I mean, it's that's and that again shows you like 0:50:31.440 --> 0:50:34.360 a gun in the in group out group distinction, because 0:50:35.080 --> 0:50:39.160 they none of those guys thought this woman deserved to live, right, clearly, 0:50:39.239 --> 0:50:41.200 none of them, I mean not just the man who 0:50:41.320 --> 0:50:45.040 killed her, but none of them thought she was worthy 0:50:45.040 --> 0:50:47.040 of life because none of them tried to save her life, 0:50:47.080 --> 0:50:50.360 and they blocked the doctor who was there who wanted 0:50:50.400 --> 0:50:53.080 to intervene and help. They you don't if they pointed 0:50:53.120 --> 0:50:54.759 a gun and him said absolutely not, We're going to 0:50:54.840 --> 0:50:55.400 let her bleed out. 0:50:55.560 --> 0:50:56.800 That's what the choice was made. 0:50:56.960 --> 0:50:57.640 And I believe it was. 0:50:57.640 --> 0:51:00.120 On CNN, I saw an interview with a with a 0:51:00.239 --> 0:51:02.799 police commander who had said he's like for instance, I 0:51:02.840 --> 0:51:09.000 once had two officers who were shot at by a 0:51:09.000 --> 0:51:11.879 man like who shot directly at them, he missed them, 0:51:12.360 --> 0:51:17.239 They returned fire, they hit the guy. They immediately ran 0:51:17.280 --> 0:51:22.560 and got their medical gear and rushed to the guy 0:51:22.719 --> 0:51:26.520 too that they had just shot who had shot at them, 0:51:27.000 --> 0:51:31.000 and immediately start delivering attempts to save his life and 0:51:31.040 --> 0:51:34.840 call in an ambulance, because at that point you transition 0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:37.680 from he's no longer a threat. You transition back into 0:51:37.680 --> 0:51:41.200 this protect and serve like this is your that this 0:51:41.239 --> 0:51:43.480 is your job's what you're training to do. To just 0:51:43.560 --> 0:51:46.560 be like sauntering around and and like joking around and 0:51:46.560 --> 0:51:49.520 then hop into a vehicle and flee gives gives away, 0:51:49.560 --> 0:51:52.879 gives away the game. And did you did you see 0:51:52.880 --> 0:51:56.160 the h the ice officer busted going into the porta potty? 0:51:56.400 --> 0:51:56.680 Yeah? 0:51:57.000 --> 0:51:59.359 Yeah, sharing him play this is I mean, this is 0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:02.279 just thinking all in ones, all at one. Because you've 0:52:02.320 --> 0:52:05.600 got him slipping, comically slipping on the ice like in 0:52:05.640 --> 0:52:07.759 a Looty Tunes as kind of way. There's a lot 0:52:07.760 --> 0:52:09.360 of video of that in Minnesota right now. So he 0:52:09.400 --> 0:52:12.720 falls down, okay, not that they're not sending their best 0:52:13.320 --> 0:52:17.640 and then goes into the porta potty with this detainee 0:52:18.239 --> 0:52:20.600 while you know, this other agent sits in the car 0:52:20.760 --> 0:52:25.480 and watches Ilhan Omar who you know this is in Minneapolis, 0:52:25.480 --> 0:52:29.239 this is her district. She posted like, can someone please 0:52:29.280 --> 0:52:31.600 tell me what's going on with this? Because I find 0:52:31.640 --> 0:52:36.080 this deeply disturbing. And you know, there was another I 0:52:36.120 --> 0:52:40.920 believe ICE agent who was convicted of sexually abusing one 0:52:40.960 --> 0:52:44.960 of the detainees. Like these things that we're seeing like 0:52:45.000 --> 0:52:48.480 this is only just what we can see. Imagine what's 0:52:48.480 --> 0:52:50.880 happening behind closed doors where the cameras aren't allowed in. 0:52:51.200 --> 0:52:53.439 And by the way, on that note, they're now trying 0:52:53.480 --> 0:52:56.080 to block there's a law that is supposed to require 0:52:56.600 --> 0:52:59.440 Congressional any members of Congress, from being able to go 0:52:59.520 --> 0:53:02.239 and inspect ICE facilities at any time. Don't have to 0:53:02.239 --> 0:53:04.440 give notice, Chris, you know, I'm just put out some 0:53:04.520 --> 0:53:06.560 memos saying no, now you have to give a week's notice. 0:53:07.800 --> 0:53:09.839 Don't see how that is compliant with the law. It'll 0:53:09.880 --> 0:53:11.759 probably be a court case over that. But in any case, 0:53:12.000 --> 0:53:14.040 Ilhan and others showed up at one of these ices, 0:53:14.080 --> 0:53:16.440 so they wouldn't want him ment. So, you know, in 0:53:16.480 --> 0:53:19.800 direct violation of a law that you know, Congress passed 0:53:20.120 --> 0:53:22.840 in response to concerns about exactly these sorts of things. 0:53:23.200 --> 0:53:25.799 Yeah, Omar said, this is deeply alarming. If anyone has 0:53:25.800 --> 0:53:28.200 more information, please share Brooklyn centers in my district, and 0:53:28.239 --> 0:53:32.040 I would love any info you all can provide. Yeah, 0:53:32.160 --> 0:53:35.319 and when it's bad news, when you're like, oh, if 0:53:35.320 --> 0:53:37.600 you've seen the video of the ice officers, you know, 0:53:37.640 --> 0:53:41.160 slipping on the ice and then but like and you're like, 0:53:41.200 --> 0:53:43.680 which one because then the other one they slip on 0:53:43.680 --> 0:53:46.480 the ice and the guy and his gun discharges. Yes, 0:53:46.680 --> 0:53:49.680 there's there's no world in which you're following proper gun 0:53:49.719 --> 0:53:53.080 safety and you fall in your gun discharges Like, that's 0:53:53.120 --> 0:53:53.719 just not a thing. 0:53:54.239 --> 0:53:57.239 Yeah, he almost took out his buddy there. Yeah, that 0:53:57.360 --> 0:54:01.240 was alongside there was another instance where they again involved 0:54:01.640 --> 0:54:04.440 involved a vehicle and they were trying to shoot the 0:54:04.440 --> 0:54:06.160 person in the vehicle and ends up like the bullet 0:54:06.239 --> 0:54:09.560 ricochet and he shoots his partner. So yeah, I mean 0:54:09.719 --> 0:54:11.480 just comically comically. 0:54:11.520 --> 0:54:13.479 One's being caught on video like there's somebody just happened 0:54:13.520 --> 0:54:16.360 to be filming that portaty right like what like that? 0:54:16.640 --> 0:54:18.720 So we're just getting the very very tip of the iceberg. 0:54:18.800 --> 0:54:21.279 That's exactly right. That's exactly right. All right, Ryan, you 0:54:21.280 --> 0:54:23.000 want to tell us what's going on in Iran. 0:54:23.080 --> 0:54:26.680 So moving on to Iran, President Trump on Air Force 0:54:26.719 --> 0:54:30.760 One was asked about whether or not Iran has cross 0:54:30.840 --> 0:54:33.839 across a red line. Yet it's interesting, if we were 0:54:33.920 --> 0:54:38.399 just talking about a protest being killed in Minneapolis, Trump 0:54:38.480 --> 0:54:43.000 seems to have more concern for protesters being killed in 0:54:43.000 --> 0:54:44.240 Iran than he does here. 0:54:44.080 --> 0:54:44.839 In the United States. 0:54:44.880 --> 0:54:49.520 Setting that apocrious hypocrisy aside, let's listen to Trump's back 0:54:49.560 --> 0:54:51.520 and forth with the press about whether or not he's 0:54:51.560 --> 0:54:56.120 about to start bombing Iran. I guess on in the 0:54:56.120 --> 0:54:58.239 interests of peace or something. Let's roll this. 0:54:58.840 --> 0:55:07.320 They call yesterday Iran call to negotiate. Yesterday, the leaders 0:55:07.320 --> 0:55:09.040 of Iran called they want to negotiat. 0:55:09.719 --> 0:55:11.440 I think they're tired of being beat up by the 0:55:11.520 --> 0:55:18.960 United States. Iran wants to negotiate. Yes, we may meet 0:55:19.040 --> 0:55:21.359 with them. I mean if a meeting is being set up, 0:55:22.640 --> 0:55:26.840 but we may have to act because of what's happening 0:55:27.360 --> 0:55:29.839 before the meeting. But a meeting is being set up, 0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:32.600 Iran called, they wanted negotiating. 0:55:32.520 --> 0:55:35.440 And so we know that the foreign minister from Oman 0:55:35.600 --> 0:55:40.960 recently went to Tehran. There's some reports that he delivered 0:55:41.000 --> 0:55:43.600 some type of a message from the United States. Iran 0:55:43.760 --> 0:55:46.360 is responding saying they want to get back into the 0:55:46.760 --> 0:55:49.200 Iran nuclear deal, but obviously if you go to war 0:55:49.200 --> 0:55:52.960 against us, that will make those negotiations a little bit more. 0:55:52.920 --> 0:55:54.879 Difficult if we can put up D one. 0:55:55.560 --> 0:55:58.000 According to the New York Times and other outlets, Trump 0:55:58.040 --> 0:56:03.040 has been briefed on new option for striking Iran. He 0:56:03.080 --> 0:56:05.319 has laid out what he has said is a red line, 0:56:05.320 --> 0:56:07.960 although it's not entirely clear what that red line is. 0:56:09.600 --> 0:56:12.799 It is if if protesters are killed under certain circumstances 0:56:12.840 --> 0:56:17.000 but not other circumstances, because some of these protests have 0:56:17.440 --> 0:56:21.319 veered into not just like riots, but like armed, armed 0:56:21.320 --> 0:56:24.360 attacks on security forces. More than Iran has said, I 0:56:24.400 --> 0:56:28.040 think more than one hundred members of the security services. 0:56:27.840 --> 0:56:28.439 Have been killed. 0:56:28.440 --> 0:56:32.160 You've seen some and you're seeing videos of that circulate. 0:56:33.040 --> 0:56:37.440 Police officer killed and set on fire, a nurse was killed, 0:56:38.000 --> 0:56:42.600 firefighter was killed. There are reports of the beheadings of 0:56:43.719 --> 0:56:49.600 at of like government security services. Meanwhile, you have at 0:56:49.719 --> 0:56:54.200 least five hundred protesters killed at this point, and arguably 0:56:54.280 --> 0:56:57.759 probably thousands at this point, like it's and Iran has 0:56:57.760 --> 0:57:00.680 cut the internet, so it's very difficult to get to 0:57:00.719 --> 0:57:03.640 get legitimate information out of there. Lindsey Graham was at 0:57:03.680 --> 0:57:06.200 an event last night and told people there he had 0:57:06.239 --> 0:57:09.319 to cut it short because he was very excited that 0:57:09.520 --> 0:57:10.920 we might go to war that night. 0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:11.799 Let's roll D two. 0:57:12.320 --> 0:57:16.440 But the reason I had to cut the speech off 0:57:16.480 --> 0:57:18.800 a little bit, and it was really very kind of 0:57:18.840 --> 0:57:21.000 you to do what you were doing. I don't know what, 0:57:21.240 --> 0:57:24.320 but this might be the night. It's just a matter 0:57:24.320 --> 0:57:28.680 of time now, just a matter of time. Why is 0:57:28.720 --> 0:57:30.600 it just a matter of time? And you know what 0:57:30.640 --> 0:57:38.360 I'm talking about, don't you. This tyrannical regime needs to end. 0:57:39.840 --> 0:57:42.320 We need to end this for the good people of 0:57:42.360 --> 0:57:44.880 Iran and for our own selves and the people of Israel. 0:57:45.560 --> 0:57:46.280 We need to. 0:57:46.200 --> 0:57:55.640 Take this guy down. He needs to leave, standing up 0:57:56.360 --> 0:57:58.840 or laying down, I don't care. 0:58:00.440 --> 0:58:01.280 He needs to go. 0:58:02.040 --> 0:58:05.400 And if we can pull this off, it'd biggest change 0:58:05.960 --> 0:58:08.080 in the Mid East in a thousand years. 0:58:09.080 --> 0:58:10.480 Hamas has gone. 0:58:11.240 --> 0:58:14.240 It's not even clear to me why Lindsey Graham would 0:58:14.280 --> 0:58:17.000 need to cut it short, Like is he calling the 0:58:17.000 --> 0:58:19.320 shots here? Is he like picking targets like what is 0:58:19.360 --> 0:58:22.000 his involvement with this potential bombing or is he just 0:58:22.600 --> 0:58:24.600 need to be in private to enjoy it, needs. 0:58:24.360 --> 0:58:26.240 To be alone to fully savor the moment. 0:58:26.320 --> 0:58:30.520 Like the fact that he's still so influential with Trump 0:58:30.560 --> 0:58:34.880 really undercuts the idea that Trump. 0:58:34.600 --> 0:58:35.600 Is not just. 0:58:36.240 --> 0:58:38.400 There are many things about this that have undercut the 0:58:38.440 --> 0:58:39.480 idea that Trump is. 0:58:39.520 --> 0:58:40.120 Mister Pace. 0:58:40.240 --> 0:58:43.360 I mean to be honest with you, I think he 0:58:43.960 --> 0:58:45.840 is worse than the neocons. He's actually worse than the 0:58:45.840 --> 0:58:51.439 neocons because he has bombed what seven countries so far, 0:58:52.120 --> 0:58:55.439 and you know, the any of the like at least 0:58:55.480 --> 0:58:57.760 the neocons felt the need to like build up some 0:58:57.800 --> 0:59:00.600 sort of case, have some sort of legit intemacy with 0:59:00.640 --> 0:59:04.800 the American people, the full on barbarism and the complete 0:59:04.920 --> 0:59:07.600 law of the jungle might makes right like this this 0:59:07.680 --> 0:59:10.240 is this is actually worse now. And I'm someone who 0:59:10.320 --> 0:59:11.800 and I think you were too, probably and the first 0:59:11.800 --> 0:59:14.640 Trump administration was like Bush is still worse, Like Bush 0:59:14.720 --> 0:59:18.320 is still worse than what you know what Trump has been. 0:59:18.360 --> 0:59:20.280 I can no longer make that case. Like the resistance 0:59:20.320 --> 0:59:23.120 lips were right, their most arranged takes on everything except 0:59:23.200 --> 0:59:25.760 Rush of Gate were one hundred percent proven correct. I 0:59:25.800 --> 0:59:29.000 am sorry forever criticizing you, you guys, and you know 0:59:29.040 --> 0:59:32.360 what all the like discussion of his world temperament and 0:59:32.440 --> 0:59:34.760 like his character, which I also used to sort of 0:59:34.800 --> 0:59:36.600 like roll my eyes and no, you were correct, like 0:59:36.640 --> 0:59:39.640 that actually did that ended up mattering a lot in 0:59:39.720 --> 0:59:43.760 terms of the conduct of his presidency. So yeah, completely vindicated. 0:59:43.880 --> 0:59:46.560 You know that first clip we played about where Trump 0:59:46.600 --> 0:59:49.280 is like, you know, maybe we'll talk about a deal. 0:59:49.720 --> 0:59:52.320 I would love to believe that's the case, but we've 0:59:52.360 --> 0:59:56.880 now had multiple instances where the possibility of diplomacy has 0:59:56.960 --> 1:00:00.560 been used as a pretext and a cover for a 1:00:00.600 --> 1:00:04.480 bombing campaign. So you can never like this could be 1:00:04.560 --> 1:00:06.960 yet another trojan horn. Oh we're going to extend the arm. 1:00:07.040 --> 1:00:08.560 Oh now we know where all of you are, so 1:00:08.600 --> 1:00:10.720 we can murder you. You know that, Like you just 1:00:10.760 --> 1:00:13.280 can't rule any of that out. Ever, not to mention 1:00:13.360 --> 1:00:15.440 in that same clip, he says, well, we might have 1:00:15.520 --> 1:00:19.320 to take action before we can get to the negotiation table. 1:00:19.520 --> 1:00:20.080 And there's also a. 1:00:20.080 --> 1:00:23.440 Thing where he's like like, Okay, yeah, we're doing a 1:00:23.440 --> 1:00:25.000 lot of war, but we're really only going to do 1:00:25.040 --> 1:00:27.440 it in our hemisphere. That's what America first means, just 1:00:27.440 --> 1:00:30.240 doing the war here. So okay, you thought we were 1:00:30.240 --> 1:00:33.160 going to be, you know, a more peaceful administrative we're not. 1:00:33.480 --> 1:00:34.920 But it's just here, promise. 1:00:35.400 --> 1:00:37.120 And then like three days later like, oh and also 1:00:37.160 --> 1:00:40.280 we're going to bomb Iron, right, which is I mean. 1:00:40.760 --> 1:00:43.280 Can you can pick up a globe if you don't 1:00:43.280 --> 1:00:45.160 believe me? It's not in our backyard? 1:00:45.520 --> 1:00:49.000 Yeah, yeah, right now, the Swedes are thinking of getting 1:00:49.040 --> 1:00:52.760 nukes to protect themselves from like they're in a coalition 1:00:52.840 --> 1:00:55.640 of Nordic countries, Like maybe we should get news. You should, 1:00:56.000 --> 1:00:58.560 everybody should. I mean, that is the logic that we 1:00:58.640 --> 1:01:01.240 have created around the world. The only people we don't 1:01:01.280 --> 1:01:03.920 fuck with are the ones who have nuclear weapons. So, 1:01:04.280 --> 1:01:07.040 you know, I guess that's that's the way that people 1:01:07.040 --> 1:01:09.800 are increasingly looking at it. And who could possibly blame 1:01:09.840 --> 1:01:13.120 them for viewing things through that lens, you know, in 1:01:13.240 --> 1:01:15.920 terms of what actually happens here, I genuinely don't know, 1:01:16.080 --> 1:01:21.120 because Trump doesn't. I think he doesn't want to get 1:01:21.160 --> 1:01:22.800 into some long protracted He. 1:01:22.840 --> 1:01:24.080 Likes the theater of war. 1:01:24.560 --> 1:01:27.360 He likes being able to do his mission accomplished moment 1:01:27.520 --> 1:01:30.760 after the you know, Seal team or whoever goes in 1:01:30.920 --> 1:01:33.280 and does their Oh my god, we kidnapped Maduro and 1:01:33.320 --> 1:01:35.560 it was so spectacular and amazing and aren't we the best? 1:01:36.240 --> 1:01:39.480 And obviously right now he actually posted that he's the 1:01:39.520 --> 1:01:40.880 acting president of Venezuela. 1:01:40.880 --> 1:01:41.720 I don't know if he saw that. 1:01:42.320 --> 1:01:47.040 Yeah, so he likes that, but he had enough enough 1:01:47.120 --> 1:01:50.120 caution around, you know, putting this Machado in and like 1:01:50.160 --> 1:01:52.840 completely doing the regime change thing, like that's probably going 1:01:52.840 --> 1:01:55.040 to require more for me than I really want to give. 1:01:55.440 --> 1:01:57.400 And he seems to have that same sense. In Iran, 1:01:57.640 --> 1:01:58.440 he said that. 1:01:58.400 --> 1:02:01.120 He's like, yeah, this rezip Levi al Sun for the shot. 1:02:01.520 --> 1:02:02.000 He doesn't have the. 1:02:02.000 --> 1:02:04.200 Jews, he doesn't have the support. And he's right, I mean, 1:02:04.280 --> 1:02:09.640 he's absolutely right. But the Israelis definitely want to they 1:02:09.640 --> 1:02:11.520 want a regime change, but you know, tree to Parsi 1:02:11.600 --> 1:02:14.000 is correct and saying what they really want is regime destabilization, 1:02:14.160 --> 1:02:16.240 Like they don't care for Rams, the failed state. They're 1:02:16.240 --> 1:02:18.480 happy for Aron to be. Yeah, they want it to 1:02:18.480 --> 1:02:20.640 be a Libyer or a siri or whatever, like that's 1:02:20.680 --> 1:02:24.440 what their goal is now is Trump is he on 1:02:24.480 --> 1:02:28.280 board with that goal? We don't know but it certainly 1:02:28.320 --> 1:02:32.480 seems like he is being increasingly persuaded by the ego 1:02:32.960 --> 1:02:36.360 kick that he got out of the Venezuela operation, plus 1:02:36.400 --> 1:02:39.840 these protests, which I think are helping to convince him 1:02:40.320 --> 1:02:44.200 that this would be easier than perhaps he thought in 1:02:44.240 --> 1:02:46.880 the past. So, you know, I don't think there's anything 1:02:46.880 --> 1:02:49.240 that we could possibly put off the table, especially. 1:02:48.880 --> 1:02:51.600 When again mirror mirroring. 1:02:51.240 --> 1:02:54.560 The dynamic with Venezuela, where you have the Miami occupied government, 1:02:54.600 --> 1:02:56.560 with Marco Rubio and others who are you know, South 1:02:56.560 --> 1:03:00.440 Floridians who are very excited about these possibilities. You have 1:03:00.640 --> 1:03:03.720 a similar dynamic obviously with Mary Maddilson and people in 1:03:03.760 --> 1:03:06.760 the administry or my Kakabee and people in the administration 1:03:06.960 --> 1:03:09.720 who are very very committed to what Israel wants with 1:03:09.800 --> 1:03:12.240 regard to Iran, and they're just going to keep pushing 1:03:12.240 --> 1:03:15.720 and pushing and pushing and cycling through arguments with him 1:03:15.800 --> 1:03:18.400 until they find one which works, which is exactly what 1:03:18.440 --> 1:03:21.440 happened previously with Iran, and which is exactly what happened 1:03:21.520 --> 1:03:25.320 with Venezuela. They kept making different cases to him until 1:03:25.360 --> 1:03:28.480 they found one that they could use to convince him 1:03:28.520 --> 1:03:29.960 to effectuate the NDS that they wanted. 1:03:30.240 --> 1:03:31.640 And I don't even know what this one is, Like, 1:03:31.680 --> 1:03:35.680 what's the argument, like why like he was he did 1:03:35.680 --> 1:03:37.720 a twelve day war. They wanted more than twelve days, 1:03:37.800 --> 1:03:40.919 although they were getting pounded pretty badly, but they still 1:03:40.920 --> 1:03:44.080 would have gone a little further. But what is like, 1:03:44.120 --> 1:03:46.760 what even is the argument? Like I haven't I think, 1:03:47.120 --> 1:03:49.040 as a better bit of the public, I haven't even 1:03:49.120 --> 1:03:52.280 like received like why are we going to bomb them 1:03:52.280 --> 1:03:52.600 this time? 1:03:52.680 --> 1:03:52.840 Right? 1:03:52.880 --> 1:03:55.880 Because initially he had said in his meeting with Netanyahu, 1:03:55.920 --> 1:03:58.320 if they went back to building nuclear weapons. 1:03:58.080 --> 1:04:01.280 Right, that that would be but he they yeah, they, I. 1:04:01.240 --> 1:04:04.000 Mean, we haven't received even any fake reports about that. 1:04:04.080 --> 1:04:06.600 Well that's probably coming soon, stay tuned for that. But 1:04:06.640 --> 1:04:09.040 in any case, that's sort of been pushed to the side. 1:04:09.520 --> 1:04:12.240 Now it's supposedly about like the rights and dignity of 1:04:12.280 --> 1:04:15.080 the protesters. I mean, does anyone really believe that Trump 1:04:15.120 --> 1:04:18.520 cares about like the you know, aspirational human rights of 1:04:18.560 --> 1:04:21.280 the Iranian protesters when obviously doesn't give a shit about 1:04:21.280 --> 1:04:25.240 that with American protesters. But now since he put this 1:04:25.320 --> 1:04:27.400 red line down, now it's just about ego. It's like 1:04:27.440 --> 1:04:29.800 they're they're embarrassing you. You know, you said you made 1:04:29.840 --> 1:04:31.920 this line in the sand. You can't be like Obama 1:04:31.960 --> 1:04:33.760 where he had his red line and then they walked 1:04:33.800 --> 1:04:35.800 all over him like you said this thing. You've got 1:04:35.800 --> 1:04:38.720 to stand strong, I think. I mean, that's as far 1:04:38.760 --> 1:04:40.880 as I can tell, because I don't really see any 1:04:40.920 --> 1:04:44.479 sort of any other affirmative case being made for why 1:04:44.520 --> 1:04:45.840 this is in our interest at all? 1:04:46.120 --> 1:04:49.560 And isn't the a bombing campaign more likely to just end. 1:04:49.480 --> 1:04:51.360 The protests like that? 1:04:51.320 --> 1:04:54.040 That's the only I don't I don't connect how coming 1:04:54.040 --> 1:04:57.840 in with you bomb a bunch of military installations or something, 1:04:57.880 --> 1:05:02.240 and that that's good, that's kind of somehow further the protests. 1:05:02.240 --> 1:05:04.360 I don't know, I get. I guess anything's possible. 1:05:04.400 --> 1:05:07.120 Meanwhile, Iran has said put up D three here that 1:05:07.600 --> 1:05:11.320 if the US strikes Iran, that they that they consider 1:05:12.280 --> 1:05:14.960 US targets throughout the Middle East, including the bases in 1:05:15.480 --> 1:05:19.080 Iraq which are which are quite vulnerable to irunning attacks, 1:05:19.080 --> 1:05:22.000 as well as any Israeli targets, that those are legitimate 1:05:22.040 --> 1:05:27.480 targets and that's that that's how that's how they will respond. 1:05:28.080 --> 1:05:29.040 We put up and. 1:05:29.000 --> 1:05:33.760 Then covering these protests is extraordinarily difficult. There is probably 1:05:33.800 --> 1:05:41.680 no arena where there's more disinformation and fake videos thrown 1:05:41.720 --> 1:05:44.840 out there. Trita Parsi has has talked about this. It's 1:05:44.880 --> 1:05:47.520 like it's there's some some is trickling out. There are 1:05:47.520 --> 1:05:51.760 a few Starlink Starlink was mostly successfully taken down actually, 1:05:51.800 --> 1:05:55.760 which is fascinating development and it's freaking out, you know, 1:05:55.840 --> 1:05:59.160 Musk investors. It seems like Russian Iran figure found a 1:05:59.240 --> 1:06:02.680 kill switch for it. Some starlinks are still operative and 1:06:03.120 --> 1:06:06.439 have been able to get some videos of massacres out. 1:06:06.920 --> 1:06:10.200 Some Arinians have left and gone to say Dubai or 1:06:10.240 --> 1:06:15.240 elsewhere and have brought videos with them. One of those 1:06:15.480 --> 1:06:18.480 we can put up D five here actually and then 1:06:18.480 --> 1:06:19.720 we'll go back to go. 1:06:19.680 --> 1:06:21.560 Back to D four. D five. 1:06:21.600 --> 1:06:24.720 This is this is footage being played and we blurred 1:06:24.760 --> 1:06:27.440 this out, but these are basically there's two hundred and 1:06:27.480 --> 1:06:34.800 fifty files here. Somebody smuggled this out, likely was smuggled out, 1:06:35.040 --> 1:06:38.600 and it's basically evidence of about of at least two 1:06:38.640 --> 1:06:41.080 hundred and fifty people getting killed. And then each file 1:06:41.160 --> 1:06:44.320 kind of goes through somebody else where and families are 1:06:44.320 --> 1:06:48.800 being asked to come to come identify and receive their 1:06:49.760 --> 1:06:53.919 their their loved ones, and we could, like I said, 1:06:53.920 --> 1:06:55.760 we could be talking about many thousands of. 1:06:57.320 --> 1:06:58.120 Debt at this point. 1:06:59.600 --> 1:07:03.760 Meanwhile, in Los Angeles, Yeah, and we can put up 1:07:03.800 --> 1:07:07.920 this this post here. D four, a U haul truck 1:07:09.240 --> 1:07:14.320 drove through a group of protesters who are who are 1:07:15.080 --> 1:07:17.760 supporting the protests against the Iranian regime. 1:07:18.920 --> 1:07:21.000 The imagery on the U haul. 1:07:22.280 --> 1:07:25.080 Is suggestive of the possibility that it is an m 1:07:25.320 --> 1:07:30.280 K aligned action. M K is this bizarre kind of 1:07:30.320 --> 1:07:34.160 anti regime cult that is also hostile to the Shah 1:07:34.800 --> 1:07:39.919 and that has weird connections to the US security establishment 1:07:40.000 --> 1:07:43.240 and was based in Iraq and backed by the CIA 1:07:43.280 --> 1:07:46.720 at various times. Like it's like it's a very just 1:07:46.720 --> 1:07:49.000 look up the m K. It's a very odd organization 1:07:49.560 --> 1:07:53.880 that has no base of support inside Iran and would 1:07:53.920 --> 1:07:56.160 do something insane like. 1:07:56.120 --> 1:08:00.919 This, like terror attacks previously, the whole like we've turned 1:08:00.920 --> 1:08:02.240 over a new leaf thing. 1:08:02.560 --> 1:08:04.840 But if you did, like I don't know if this 1:08:05.640 --> 1:08:07.640 member got the memo, if it was if this was 1:08:07.680 --> 1:08:09.600 an MK link attack, but this is the kind of 1:08:09.640 --> 1:08:11.880 thing that m K would be associated with. 1:08:12.320 --> 1:08:15.840 Yeah, and these were you know, the I think the 1:08:15.880 --> 1:08:19.160 protest the flavor was like pro monarchists, you know, more 1:08:19.200 --> 1:08:22.720 in back, Yeah, the the Shaw's Sun and you know, 1:08:22.800 --> 1:08:26.599 in support of him, et cetera. So in any case, yeah, 1:08:26.640 --> 1:08:29.439 you have very difficult situation to know what's going on 1:08:29.479 --> 1:08:31.600 in the ground. I saw doctor Parcy also tweeting, and 1:08:31.640 --> 1:08:34.720 it might have even been in that tweet that anecdotally 1:08:34.800 --> 1:08:37.799 what he's hearing is that the some of the lesson 1:08:37.920 --> 1:08:42.040 that was taken from the previous protests, which were largely peaceful, 1:08:42.640 --> 1:08:45.519 was that they failed because they were to they were peaceful, 1:08:45.640 --> 1:08:49.080 that there wasn't violent a violent cost associated with it, 1:08:49.200 --> 1:08:52.080 and that's part of why you're seeing this, you know, 1:08:52.200 --> 1:08:55.439 this more violent approach from the protesters this time. But 1:08:55.479 --> 1:08:58.640 again it's very hard to know what's what exactly is 1:08:58.680 --> 1:09:01.800 going on, how White's right, they are, how there's no 1:09:01.880 --> 1:09:05.639 doubt that the Iranian regime is deeply unpopular. I don't 1:09:05.640 --> 1:09:08.120 think there's any question about that. And you know, part 1:09:08.160 --> 1:09:10.760 of that is the certainly the repression. These protests were 1:09:10.760 --> 1:09:14.120 initially sparked by the currency collapse, triggered by you know, 1:09:14.200 --> 1:09:16.760 largely by our sanctions and our aggressive approach towards them. 1:09:16.920 --> 1:09:20.320 We've trashed their economy. You know, youth unemployment is just 1:09:20.760 --> 1:09:24.479 sky high. It's an incredibly you know, dim situation for 1:09:24.520 --> 1:09:27.800 people economically on the ground. And so it's no surprise 1:09:27.960 --> 1:09:29.720 that the country would be a powder keg. And it's 1:09:29.720 --> 1:09:31.920 also no surprise that you would have actors in the 1:09:32.000 --> 1:09:34.960 US and Israel who want to take advantage of those 1:09:35.080 --> 1:09:37.719 legitimate grievances to pursue their own ideological ends. 1:09:37.800 --> 1:09:42.080 Yeah, and Israel brags about how well organized massade is inside. 1:09:41.760 --> 1:09:44.439 Iran and that well they've showed that off out. 1:09:44.360 --> 1:09:48.320 Of what a massive network of allies and assets they 1:09:48.320 --> 1:09:51.559 have in there. And there was no immediate and we'll 1:09:51.560 --> 1:09:53.519 get to Van Holland the moment. There was no immediate 1:09:53.600 --> 1:09:56.720 kind of triggering event that sparked these protests. It really 1:09:56.760 --> 1:10:01.320 appears like it was an organized, like orchestrated, planned out 1:10:01.400 --> 1:10:05.360 thing rather than you know, let's say somebody, you know, 1:10:05.400 --> 1:10:08.360 a protester, or police kill somebody, or you know. 1:10:08.800 --> 1:10:10.800 Maybe an ICE agent shooting someone in the base three 1:10:10.840 --> 1:10:13.280 times for as one example, as a precipitating event. 1:10:13.400 --> 1:10:14.040 There was none of that. 1:10:14.080 --> 1:10:16.799 It was just like all of a sudden, there's protests. Yeah, 1:10:16.840 --> 1:10:20.880 and you have Israel, and Israel was in the weeks 1:10:20.920 --> 1:10:22.960 leading up to this, saying we're going to war against 1:10:23.000 --> 1:10:26.240 them again, and so they've basically taken a lot of 1:10:26.280 --> 1:10:26.800 credit for this