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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up, Straight Firefighter. It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight

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Speaker 2: Bowyer for Friday, March the thirteenth. It's Friday the thirteenth,

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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, we get another glorious day of college basketball.

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Speaker 2: Thursday was incredible. I don't know if Friday can match it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we had one of the closest

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Speaker 2: days in college College Basketball ACC Tournament history. Duke escapes

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Speaker 2: eighty seventy nine. UNC loses eighty seventy nine. The games

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Speaker 2: are just crazy. I will say I didn't post picks yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I'm an idiot, and of course it was just a

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Speaker 2: banger of a day. I will try to get some

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Speaker 2: picks up. A programming note, I'm not on the Herd

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Speaker 2: on Friday. I'm hosting all next week. I'm like, listen,

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Speaker 2: I need a day to get prepared mentally. Obviously, there's

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Speaker 2: so much happening tournaments. The tournament begins next Thursday. The

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Speaker 2: brackets come out Sunday. Obviously I'm joining a Calcutta but

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Speaker 2: now I'm not allowed to talk about it on air. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen. I've got two championship games next week.

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Speaker 2: It's just gonna be tough. I already told the wife,

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Speaker 2: lisn't I can't do school pick up at all this week. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I'll get it out of my system. Now.

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Speaker 2: Let me know what you need over the weekend. But

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Speaker 2: I am gonna be I got you know. The next

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Speaker 2: week's a big one. This weekend, my daughter's semifinals for

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Speaker 2: her league were the three time defending champs. We could

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Speaker 2: be in some trouble. Listen, man, it March. It's quite

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Speaker 2: a month. And I want to start because I saw

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Speaker 2: an interesting tweet from somebody and I'm just gonna read

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Speaker 2: the two sentences. It's short. Actually, Bam out of Bayo

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Speaker 2: scoring eighty three points wasn't that impressive. Actually, Miami of

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Speaker 2: aren't that good. Like it's been a weird week. So

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Speaker 2: Miami of Ohio loses yesterday to U MASS. I actually

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Speaker 2: had UMass plus seven and Miami of Ohio will not

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Speaker 2: win their conference tournament. They went undefeated in the regular season,

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Speaker 2: the first team to do that since damn it. I

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Speaker 2: don't have Google Gemini up, but I had it. I

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Speaker 2: think it was hold on, I've got it right here,

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Speaker 2: my bad. Okay, here we go. So Gonzaga in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty one went undefeated. I think that was the Jalen

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Speaker 2: Suggs team twenty fifteen Kentucky. I'm fairly certain that was

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Speaker 2: the Karl Anthony Towns team Wichita State twenty fourteen, Ron

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Speaker 2: Baker and fred Vinvliet, Saint Joe's, Delante West and Jamior

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Speaker 2: Nelson two thousand and four, and UNLV nineteen ninety one,

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Speaker 2: the Juggernaut that lost to Duke in the Final four.

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Speaker 2: So in the last forty five years, six teams have

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Speaker 2: got undefeated in the regular season. That's it. Miami of

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Speaker 2: Ohio is one of them, and Miami of Ohio is

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Speaker 2: now getting crushed because, oh wait a minute, they lost

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Speaker 2: to UMass. They're not that good. They don't don't have

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Speaker 2: any quad one wins. Look at their schedule, they didn't

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Speaker 2: bet anybody. They went undefeated. If it were that easy

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Speaker 2: to do a lot of people would do it. Six

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Speaker 2: teams in forty five years. So essentially this happens, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, forty five divided by six seven points something.

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Speaker 2: Every seven years we see something like this. A team

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Speaker 2: goes undefeated in the regular season, and now we're saying

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Speaker 2: they're not that good because they didn't beat anybody in

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Speaker 2: the regular season and Auburn should get in over them.

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Speaker 2: It just it makes no sense. I feel like it's

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Speaker 2: a dumb conversation. And then I pull back and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: you know what this you know what this feels like.

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Speaker 2: It feels like a bunch of trolls just doing engagement

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Speaker 3: Well, they suck.

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Speaker 2: How could they be good? They haven't been anybody their

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Speaker 2: best is I'm just making it up, UNLV or whatever, Like, huh.

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Speaker 2: They won every single game they played in the regular season,

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Speaker 2: and they're not that good. And it's just a weird

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Speaker 2: time because the other one was Bam out of Bayo.

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Speaker 2: And again I didn't see this in real time because

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Speaker 2: I was playing a men's league game, but Rob of

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Speaker 2: course just destroyed Bam out of Bayo. He called him

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Speaker 2: Rob g was on a roll. He was absolutely cookie

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Speaker 2: and then a lot of other people were crushing Bam

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, the man scored eighty three points. I

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Speaker 2: eighty three points and we're hating on that, and Rob,

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Speaker 2: So I had gone on Undisputed a bunch, and you know,

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Speaker 2: you cook up your takes before, and I'm not one

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Speaker 2: I was being perceived as like some kind of hater

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Speaker 2: And so I said, man, am I being perceived as

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Speaker 2: And I had a couple of positive takes and I

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Speaker 2: looked at them, the metrics on them, because you know,

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Speaker 2: they then posted on the social media page of Undisputed

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Speaker 2: back in the day, and wouldn't you know it, the

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Speaker 2: positive takes Joe Smith is the best tight end in

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Speaker 2: the league or whatever it is. They didn't cut through

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Speaker 2: and get the views that the negative takes did. And

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Speaker 2: at that point I put it two and two together.

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Speaker 2: I was like, it's interesting. Some of the how do

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Speaker 2: I say this politely, some of the more highly comp

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Speaker 2: and sated TV hosts who I have never worked with before.

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Speaker 2: Just to be clear, obviously we're not talking about Colin.

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Speaker 2: Some of these guys just skew heavily negative so they

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Speaker 2: talking about them online. And it feels like everybody's trying

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Speaker 2: to do that. I don't want to say clout chasing,

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Speaker 2: but on social media, they're just trying to hate.

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Speaker 2: Everybody sucks. Everything stinks. I hate this. I hate that overrated.

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Speaker 2: And I know some people right now are being like

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Speaker 2: j Mac, that's you on SGA. No, no, no, no, that.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's the same. I respect SGA. He's

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Speaker 2: was not totally fraudulent. But let's go through it.

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Speaker 2: Game seven against Denver, Eric Gordon gets hurt. He's on

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Speaker 2: an ankle, one ankle barely. Game seven, they win NBA Finals,

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Speaker 2: facing Hilo Burton losing at home in Game seven, he

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Speaker 2: goes down with an achilles like a couple. I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying put an asterisk by it, but let's be realistic.

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Speaker 2: That stuff needs to be pointed out. And yeah, you

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Speaker 2: can do it for the Raptors, the most overrated NBA

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Speaker 2: title of the century with the Warriors depleted, the greatest

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Speaker 2: the Warriors won? You know, I don't want to be

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Speaker 2: Miami of Ohio undefeated, Dad, They're not that who They

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Speaker 2: beat Bam out to Bio eighty three points, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: part of the reason this Raven's trade was undone. I

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Speaker 2: honestly think there was such pushback to first for Max

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Speaker 2: a bad deal. What's the front office doing? They botched

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Speaker 2: this and they are saying, hey, it was the it

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Speaker 2: I don't know, it just feels like social media and

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Speaker 2: this is you know, social media has been around largely

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Speaker 2: what we're like fifteen now, it's probably close to twenty

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Speaker 2: Cable tv came out in the early nineties, okay early now,

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Speaker 2: that's when guess what, the Dallas Cowboys pop because Dallas

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Speaker 2: So like there's a I think this social media stuff

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Speaker 2: is really getting out of hand. Rob and I don't know,

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Speaker 2: you were down on the Bay ab out of Mayo

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Speaker 2: eighty three points. A lot of people were where are

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Speaker 2: you on Miami Ohio.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that's a different conversation altogether. Like the

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Speaker 3: Miami Ohio one was very clearly a situation where one

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Speaker 3: up his own son's team like that. That's all it was,

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Speaker 2: But it got bigger than that though, But nobody was

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Speaker 3: I mean you mentioned it with Seth Davis, with fran Fascilla,

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Speaker 3: you weren't going to say they were a top you know,

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Speaker 3: having a great season. They're going to get in. We

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Speaker 2: Well, and the problem is the social media gets so

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Speaker 2: big that Joelnardi on Friday now has them in the

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Speaker 2: four in. So when the committee meets, are they gonna

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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, Hey, Tennessee gets this win or whatever,

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Speaker 2: my guess is all weekend Miami Ohio is gonna because

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Speaker 2: there's really no other juicy topic. I mean, Duke's not

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Speaker 2: losing the one, right, even though they looked awful, Arizona's cemented,

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Speaker 2: you know, the other ones are cemented. It feels like

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Speaker 2: miamim Ohio. And you know they like to shit on

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Speaker 2: the mid majors. Rop they love to screw them. They

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Speaker 2: put them again see each other in the first round.

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Speaker 3: You know, I will say this. I think that to

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Speaker 3: your point. You know, when it comes to sports, and

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Speaker 3: in this case where there's a committee involved, just like

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Speaker 3: college football, as much as you want to reward the

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Speaker 3: best team and the most deserving team, the reality is

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Speaker 3: if push comes to shove and if these committee members

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Speaker 3: are really debating the merits of Miami ohiovers I don't know,

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Speaker 3: like you said, Tennessee, I don't know whoever, whoever is

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Speaker 3: another team that's on the bubble. I think you're more

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Speaker 3: than likely going to get a situation where they say,

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Speaker 3: we are going to get more eyeballs or more attention

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Speaker 3: with the little engine that could Miami the underdog story

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Speaker 3: than we ever would with the sixty first best team

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Speaker 3: be enough for us to put them in over a

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw that, well, I don't

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Speaker 2: Well, let's try to tell the full story on Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 2: He signs with the Minnesota Vikings one year deal for

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Speaker 3: he can just in terms of rawability, Like he is

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Speaker 3: one of the more talented quarterbacks in football, and now

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Speaker 3: you get him with one of the best coaches in football,

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Speaker 3: with one of the best receivers in football, one of

429
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Speaker 3: the best tight ends in football, and it's like, well,

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Speaker 3: you can do something whether he's good or not. Sam

431
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Speaker 3: Donald won fourteen games with these guys, and Sam Donald

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Speaker 3: wanted you know, like, even though he has a Super

433
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Speaker 3: Bowl and you know we stand Sam Donald, I'm not

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Speaker 3: gonna call him a great quarterback. And so if the

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Speaker 3: bar is just, hey be competent. When JJ has single coverage,

436
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Speaker 3: throw it out to him and make something happen. Play

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Speaker 3: action passes deep, hit over the middle to Addison. If

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Speaker 3: not it's not there, check it down to Hockinson. That alone,

439
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Speaker 3: with that defense, which is going to force a lot

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Speaker 3: of turnovers, you're gonna win a lot of games like that.

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Speaker 3: And so do I think he can have a Daniel

442
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Speaker 3: Darvisteris absolutely, But that doesn't mean he's a great quarterback either.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking at the schedule for the Viking, so

444
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Speaker 2: we know the Kryptoniite for Kyler Murray's outdoors away games

445
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Speaker 2: at Chicago at Green Bay, it's different if you have

446
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 2: to face them in September or December. Obviously at Detroit's indoors,

447
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 2: Saints indoors, Tampa Bay outdoors. Now, there could be rain,

448
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 2: you know, obviously Tampa weather can be spotty, but it's

449
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Speaker 2: not cold Jets that will be cold like likely. I mean,

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Speaker 2: starting like late October, you're looking at you know, fifties

451
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Speaker 2: or below. Patriots will be a cold weather game and

452
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Speaker 2: the Niners won't be. But there's familiarity there. So with

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Speaker 2: only four cold weather potential games, let's see what the

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Speaker 2: schedule bakers do. Honestly, if they face those four games

455
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Speaker 2: early on, I would not be now now that I

456
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Speaker 2: think about it, I would not be shocked if Kyler

457
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Speaker 2: were the starter, but I would still bet. I wouldn't bet.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I will predict. I'm definitely not betting on

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Speaker 2: what a coach is doing. JJ McCarthy's the start of

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Speaker 2: week one? What's your best guest, Rob?

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Speaker 3: I think Kyler's gonna start Week one?

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: I think this trade has more everything to do with

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Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy and just a little bit to do with

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Speaker 3: Kyler Murray. I think this is their way of trying

466
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Speaker 3: to right or wrong that they know, making that trade

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Speaker 3: for him, selecting him the top ten when he had

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Speaker 3: very limited college reps, you know, actually having to throw

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Speaker 3: the football, letting go of Sam Donald after fourteen wins,

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Speaker 3: letting go of Daniel Jones, after being your system for

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Speaker 3: a year, not even entertaining the idea of speaking with

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers, and it led to a lost season for

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Speaker 3: them last year. So I think this is their way

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Speaker 3: of saying JJ's not the guy. We don't know if

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Speaker 3: Kyler is the guy, but at minimum he's better.

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Speaker 2: We could wrap up with the other quarterback issue, and

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Speaker 2: Coward and I disagreed pretty significantly on this. The Raiders

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Speaker 2: are going to grab or did grab Kirk Cousins. I

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Speaker 2: don't know. Is that a done deal?

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Speaker 3: All signs pointing to it, nothing official as of you

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Speaker 3: know whatever, midnight Eastern.

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Speaker 2: I like that if Kirk Cousins is coming into one

487
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Speaker 2: hundred percent be the backup, right, a stable veteran leader.

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Speaker 2: I think he's thirty seven turns thirty eight in November

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Speaker 2: or something like that, and clearly doesn't have the arm

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Speaker 2: strength to be to be a number one. Okay, he's

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Speaker 2: a fine backup a Malik Willis, if you will, popping

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Speaker 2: in doing some things and then giving back to the starter.

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Speaker 2: But there is a world out there where they're bringing

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Speaker 2: in cousins to be the starter under the guise of well,

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Speaker 2: it's good to get your guy to sit the first year. See,

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Speaker 2: it worked for Aaron Rodgers, it worked for Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 2: and I and that's where I like, take a deep

498
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Speaker 2: breath and I'm like, guys, well we'll hold up. It

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Speaker 2: did not work for Aaron Rodgers. They liked what they saw.

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Speaker 2: He was a multi year starter at Cal. He had

501
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Speaker 2: no chance of starting over future Hall of Famer Brett

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Speaker 2: Favre Zero. There was no world where he was starting.

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Speaker 2: They didn't. They didn't get him to sit him. They

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00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 2: got him because they thought he was going to be

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Speaker 2: an awesome quarterback and hey, let's get him in the system.

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Speaker 2: We'll hold on to him. He'll get his chance. Patrick

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Speaker 2: Mahomes is also interesting because Mahomes, if you remember, was

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Speaker 2: drafted to a team that had Alex Smith, former number

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Speaker 2: one pick, and had just gone to the playoffs, and

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Speaker 2: I think they won their playoff game or they lost

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Speaker 2: to the Titans. I forget it. It might have been

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Speaker 2: a loss to Mariota. Either way, they had just made

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Speaker 2: the playoffs, and Mahomes came from the Big twelve where

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Speaker 2: he was I think at the time I joked that

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Speaker 2: he was like in he was putting up Arena league

516
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Speaker 2: numbers against Arena League defenses, and I didn't think he

517
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 2: was a sure fire starter, And clearly others didn't because

518
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 2: nobody took him in the top ten until the Chiefs did.

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Speaker 2: And so this idea that, oh, well, you could just

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Speaker 2: sit Mendoza time out. Kirk Cousins is a borderline washed

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Speaker 2: quarterback who's done nothing in the last couple of years.

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Speaker 2: This team was not in the playoffs. Mendoza is a

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Speaker 2: multi year's college starter, just won every award, won the

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Speaker 2: national championship, led the team to them. It wasn't like

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Speaker 2: he was JJ McCarthy, as Rob alluded to with Michigan.

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Speaker 2: This guy's ready to start. What are we doing? The

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Speaker 2: only way you're gonna get better is by doing I'll

528
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 2: never forget twenty nineteen. You know, my brother at this

529
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Speaker 2: point was like, Oh, Joe Rogan's I've seen him in

530
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Speaker 2: comedy shorts shows, Jay, you gotta watch him.

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Speaker 3: So I turn off.

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Speaker 2: Started listening to some of the Rogan podcasts and there

533
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: was some interesting guests, and there was this one guy,

534
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: this Indian like tech VC guy who was doing a

535
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:54,959
Speaker 2: lot of philosophical stuff, naval Ravi Kant, and I was

536
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: blown away by his Rogan interview in two thousand and nine,

537
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: just absolutely flaw I was like, this is one of

538
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 2: the smartest scouts I've ever heard. I can't believe this.

539
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: And I've listened to the pod with him or parts

540
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 2: of it multiple times, and honestly, every month I go

541
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: to see if he's going on any podcast. That's how

542
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: sharp and smart this guy is super fascinating. And one

543
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: of his I don't know if it was his take

544
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 2: on Rogan or on a different podcast, but he went

545
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 2: into this rant about the only way to run a

546
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 2: business is to run a business. You can take courses

547
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Speaker 2: in business, you can work at a business, but until

548
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 2: you are actually running the show and making decisions and

549
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: controlling the P and L reports and controlling the social

550
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 2: media and doing everything, you don't know how to run

551
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Speaker 2: a business. And it makes obvious sense, right, very clear.

552
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: The only way to be a quarterback in the NFL

553
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: is to actually go on the field. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if Patrick Mahomes learned.

555
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Speaker 3: I don't know what he learned.

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Speaker 2: There are reports that in the year not that he

557
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: became the starter, but the year before, when Alex Smith

558
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 2: was still the guy. I think it was Peter Schrager.

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00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 2: I don't remember exactly who, but it was essentially, oh

560
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: my gosh, this guy Mahomes is special the things he's

561
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Speaker 2: doing in practice, but they had the veteran Alex Smith, right,

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Speaker 2: So what was Mahomes ready? Could he have cooked that year?

563
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: Will never know. Nobody will know the answer to that.

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Speaker 2: I don't care what you say, you don't know. I

565
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, Andy Reid doesn't know. The only

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Speaker 2: way Mendoza's gonna We're gonna find out if he's good

567
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Speaker 2: as if he plays, and this idea, well, we'll start

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Speaker 2: him after Thanksgiving or after hollow why. I mean, if

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Speaker 2: he's injured, obviously, don't play him. If he stinks up

570
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: the joint in the preseason, like he's awful, like maybe

571
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 2: it looks like, oh my gosh, this guy cannot play

572
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: then don't play it. But there's zero evidence that's gonna happen,

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Speaker 2: given his background and everything. And I don't know, Robert.

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Speaker 2: I just think it would be a disservice to be like, Oh,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna sit Mendoza in year what? No way? I mean,

576
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 2: even Jackson Dart Like, it's very clear he should have

577
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: started from day one. Last year, right, cam Ward started

578
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 2: from day one. They weren't great. But if he sat

579
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 2: so Will Levis or whoever could have been the start,

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00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: is that gonna.

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Speaker 3: Help cam Ward.

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Speaker 2: He's got that crappy year out of his system. He's

583
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: ready to hit the ground running in year two. I

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Speaker 2: don't know, Rob, this is your team, so I'm very

585
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 2: curious where you fall. But I'm pro if you draft

586
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: him first top ten. I don't know what the line

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00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: of demarcation is, Like Lamar did not start. They had

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00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco and then I don't remember Flaka. I think

589
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 2: Flacco was injured and that's why Lamart went in, okay,

590
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 2: and then Lamar went in and he never came out

591
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 2: and they made the playoffs and then lost it. I

592
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 2: think it was the Chargers. But where do you fall,

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Speaker 2: Rob on this Mendoza. I don't know if it's versus

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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins, but the Mendoza situation, Yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if I'm.

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Speaker 3: Settling any beef with you and Colin, But I don't

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00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 3: think there is a hard and fast rule when it

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Speaker 3: comes to quarterbacks. Like you mentioned Holmes, you mentioned Aaron Rodgers, Hey,

599
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 3: well they sat and they ended up being pretty good. Well,

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Speaker 3: you mentioned Peyton Manning. He sucked start off with it.

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Speaker 3: He ended up being pretty good, right Like Joe Burrow

602
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 3: ended up being pretty good. Jane Daniel's rookie season was

603
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Speaker 3: pretty good. Like, it is entirely possible that you can

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Speaker 3: go in as a rookie week one and take your

605
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: lumps and be good relatively quickly. It's entirely possible. It's

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Speaker 3: also possible you get thrown to the wolves like Zach Wilson,

607
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Speaker 3: and you suck and you never recover. Right, it is

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Speaker 3: what it is. I will say to your point, you're

609
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 3: never gonna know how good a guy can be until

610
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Speaker 3: he's out there. With that said, the problem is you

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Speaker 3: can know whether or not a guy is ready like that,

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00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 3: that's a different thing. Whether he's good is a different conversation.

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Speaker 3: Is he ready to be out there with the grown

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Speaker 3: man with the live bullets is a different thing. Two

615
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 3: guys that we saw got thrown out there early. I

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Speaker 3: don't think has anything to do with their talent, more

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00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 3: to do they were just not ready. Athony Richardson was

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Speaker 3: not ready, point blank per He needed more reps. He

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Speaker 3: needed more. That was the problem with him, is he

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Speaker 3: needed as many reps as possible. The problem is the

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Speaker 3: team around him was good enough where they could not

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Speaker 3: afford to let him learn on the job. JJ McCarthy

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Speaker 3: the same thing. He did not get enough real reps

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Speaker 3: at Michigan where he had to throw the football, where

625
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 3: he had to be responsible and making things happen, and

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Speaker 3: he got put in a situation where the team was

627
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Speaker 3: good enough around him that he had to be ready

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Speaker 3: sooner than what he was. As soon as Fernando Mendoza

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Speaker 3: is quote unquote ready, he should start. If that means

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Speaker 3: he's ready and he can be competent and he can,

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Speaker 3: you know, not get himself hurt or killed or get

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Speaker 3: his teammates killed by throwing hospital balls. He should be

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Speaker 3: out there because you're building something long term. If you

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Speaker 3: see him in training camp or in preseason and he

635
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Speaker 3: is a deer in the headlights and he looks shooketh

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Speaker 3: beyond recognition. Then I have no problem with you letting Kirk,

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Speaker 3: Cousins or whoever take the lumps be the guy who's

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Speaker 3: like the guiding force. Teach this guy how to practice,

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Speaker 3: teach him how to watch film so that when he

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Speaker 3: does get his chance, he's able to put his best

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Speaker 3: foot forward. Yeah, so that's what I think it comes

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Speaker 3: down to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I can't imagine a scenario where a

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Speaker 2: guy who updates his LinkedIn page is going to be

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Speaker 2: a deer in the headlights. But anything can happen. It's

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Speaker 2: interesting you mentioned Zach Wilson, but if we had SAT,

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Speaker 2: if the Jets had sat Zach Wilson, would uh would

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Speaker 2: he have been successful? I can almost unequivocally tell you no.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's a guy who didn't play a lot

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Speaker 2: in college. I think he had one year. There was

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Speaker 2: some injuries. You're right, no hard and fast rule, But

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Speaker 2: like I mean, it's Mendoza, guys, it's a guy, he's

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Speaker 2: the future. I think you got to start him. It's

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Speaker 2: like arch Manning, right, sat for what two three years,

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Speaker 2: came out and he was almost deer in the headlights

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Speaker 2: at Texas. Yeah, I mean he's going in the next

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Speaker 2: season as the guy and number one heisten guy and.

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Speaker 3: Everything future Jet arch Manning.

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Speaker 2: Potentially, we'll see. They got to get the number one pick.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's a long Friday podcast. Everybody have a

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Speaker 2: great weekend. And you know Rob's got his own new

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Speaker 2: podcast out there. You got to check that out Restricted Area,

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Speaker 2: Rob g in the Place to Be. I know you

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Speaker 2: guys like the takes. And I saw somebody Rob's shout

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Speaker 2: you or me out on social about how you mentioned

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Speaker 2: me before. Rob. I'm sure Rob Parker did not take that. Well.

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Speaker 2: He has banned me from the Odd Couple because I

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Speaker 2: pulled down his pants so badly in so many arguments.

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Speaker 2: I know that's your guy, Sorry, but yeah, it just

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Speaker 2: it's a bloodbath every time we try to go ahead

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Speaker 2: to head. Are you watching the Lakers right now? Rob?

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Speaker 3: It's of course I am.

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Speaker 2: Of course it is about to get a fifty piece.

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Speaker 2: They might just pull him.

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Speaker 3: You got to talk about unethical basketball. Watch the Lakers

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Speaker 3: play defense.

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Speaker 2: Well, they're playing the bulls. I mean, I don't I'm

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Speaker 2: Leonard Miller. Who is that?

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Speaker 3: Whoever? They are there. They're giving us the business. About

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Speaker 3: to finish with one hundred and twenty plus points from Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Lakers are saving it for Saturday, another big one against

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Speaker 2: the Nuggets. Nuggets, by the way, on Thursday night, took

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Speaker 2: down the Spurs.

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Speaker 3: Did Wemby less Spurs, Wemby didn't play.

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Speaker 2: I was shocked on salad scroll. I was like, oh no,

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Speaker 2: no Wemby. Jokic thirty one, twenty and twelve, Jamal Murray

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Speaker 2: thirty nine. I did like this though, Castle thirty eleven

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Speaker 2: and ten. So no Wembin Yama. Who else is gonna

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Speaker 2: eat my guy? Steph Castle. I'm just he's twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god's so scary. All right, all right, we're out.

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Speaker 3: See you