1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: From the RAMS studio connected by AT and T. Welcome 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: to the search. I am Miles Simmons. I'm here with 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: Jblong and we are very pleased to be joined by 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: RAM CEO and Executive Vice President of Football Operations, Kevin 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Demof Kevin, How you doing. It's been a crazy couple 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: of days. Yeah, doing well. That when you get something 7 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: like the search, you know in quotation marks, it's a 8 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 1: glimpse into what's your world books like I guess, Yeah, 9 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: So this is, you know, this early process of the 10 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: head coaching search. Just in general, what are some of 11 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: the things that you have to do at this point 12 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: right now to get this off the ground. I think 13 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: the most important thing is you do right now is 14 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: the sequencing of interviews and how that goes in the 15 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: rules of the NFL. And that's one of the benefits 16 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: we had by having a little bit of a chance 17 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: to plan for this over the past few weeks is 18 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: getting your list together so that when you call teams, 19 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: when you request permission from teams and you're talking to 20 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: agents about how you can schedule that you have in 21 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: your mind a map of the United States. You know 22 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: the candidates and what the dates are and it's a 23 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: bit like a tetris, you know puzzle. Okay, you can 24 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: go to you know, the buy teams on Friday or Saturday. 25 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: You can talk to the wildcard teams after they've completed 26 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: their first game win or lose, and get those dates. 27 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: And obviously if they lose, it's a little more flexible, 28 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: but you have to lock in what happens if they win. 29 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: The coaches who are out of the playoffs, everybody's trying 30 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: to get them in this week, and so you have 31 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: to have a ranking of you know, how you want 32 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: to talk to them and who's most important, and convey 33 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: that too to the Asians so that they know how 34 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: to set their guys up. And I think everybody. You know, 35 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: you have a pool probably of ten to twelve names 36 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: in the NFL that have been floating around for most 37 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: teams the team and all of those candidates are somewhat 38 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: being shuffled in a deck. And today it might be 39 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, tomorrow San Francisco, Jacksonville, Buffalo, and you're trying 40 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: to make all of that work together. Following Black Monday 41 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: and the final week of the regular season, how do 42 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: you feel about where the Los Angeles Rams jobs stacks 43 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: up against some of the more recent additions to the 44 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: NFL coaching searching, including in San Francisco. Well, I think 45 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: what's most important how I feel about how the job 46 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: stacks up, is going to be finding the right candidate 47 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: for our job. For some candidates, this may not be 48 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: the job they want because of, you know, a philosophy 49 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: that they have about you know, maybe they play a 50 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: three four. You know, maybe they want to do a 51 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: three four, and look, we have the best three technique 52 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and maybe a three four doesn't make 53 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: a ton of sense for the Los Angeles Rams. You know, 54 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: obviously people will talk, you know, I see, you know, 55 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: we have more picks than people discuss. I mean, I 56 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: think the one thing to remind people is, you know, 57 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: as you look at the trade for Jared, if we 58 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 1: get a compensatory third round pick, that is the pick 59 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 1: that goes to Tennessee. So should we get that, we'll 60 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: have our third round pick. So you know, we expect 61 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: we have a chance to get a fourth round compensatory pick. 62 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: So all of a sudden we could have a full 63 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: complement of eight picks. Yes, we may not have a 64 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: first rounder, but we will have a second rounder. We 65 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: might have a third, we might have two four's, the 66 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: fifth to six and seven. You know, we have plenty 67 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: of salary cap space to do where we want. I 68 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: think the job is are attractive, but I think it's 69 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: going to take the right fit. They're also going to 70 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: be people who you know, there are some coaches who 71 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: may say I want to coach in Los Angeles. There 72 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: are some coaches who may say, I'd prefer to be 73 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: in a smaller market. I think all of those factors 74 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: come in. It's individualized for us, and it's individualized for 75 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: each of the coaching candidates how they prioritize. You know, 76 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: the way the world works. You may have a coach 77 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: who's from a certain area of the country that wants 78 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: to get back there. I would love at this point 79 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: if all of the coaching candidates were from southern California 80 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: and wanted to get back here. But that's not the case. 81 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: But I think as the jobs stack up, I'm sure 82 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: they're positive and I'm sure they're negatives. Quite frankly, if 83 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: you have an opening and there are negatives, that is 84 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: why you have an opening. The key is, you know 85 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: what are the positives to your job? How do people 86 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: view it? And I think when you look at us, 87 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: the first thing people look at his ownership. You know, 88 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: stands commitment to Los Angeles, the project that we're doing 89 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: at Hollywood Park. You know the fact that he's been 90 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: a patient owner in all sports. When you look at 91 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: not only the Rams, I think people point to that, 92 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: but you look at Arsenal in the run that are 93 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: Vegers had, when you look at the Nuggets, you know, 94 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: the run that George Charlotte. I mean, you have a 95 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: history of veteran coaches who've had a long time and 96 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: the people have done that. Obviously, when you have a quarterback, 97 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: and Jared had his ups and downs in the first year, 98 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: but you have a young quarterback in place who's twenty 99 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 1: two years old, you don't have to go find that. 100 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: Usually head coach openings come with question marks at quarterback, 101 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: and I think if you look at this year's crop, 102 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: that's probably no different than it is in any other year. 103 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: Usually those two go hand in hand. But we're fortunate 104 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: to have a very young player in Jared. We have 105 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: a talented defense, we have talented special teams. There's lots 106 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: of good news about our team. But obviously There're going 107 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: to be some questions that everybody walks in with that 108 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: they want to have answered, and we want to answer 109 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: of them. And I think that's why this process is 110 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: so interesting. And you learn a lot more about your team, 111 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: they learn more about your organization, and you find that 112 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: right thing. Yeah, that's how much is this process is 113 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: kind of you selling what this is and then the 114 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: head coaching candidates selling who they are and how they 115 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: can fit into it. You know, I think it's a 116 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: little bit of both. You know, you want to sell 117 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: them on the positives or your organization, but you want 118 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: them to be honest with you about how they view 119 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: your opportunity and your challenges. Because the worst thing to 120 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: have happen is they say everything's great, and you hire 121 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: them and they walk in the first week and they say, oh, 122 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 1: I don't like you know, this, this and this. I 123 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: think the best thing if you're going to set up 124 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: a constructive, you know, football operation, that everybody can be 125 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: honest in dialogue. They can challenge each other, they can push, 126 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: they can ask difficult questions, and we can all build 127 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: that kind of environment. It shouldn't just be, you know, 128 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: all one side on it. We shouldn't be selling. They 129 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: shouldn't be selling. It should be an honest conversation about 130 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: how you make the Los Angeles Rams super Bowl champions. 131 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: And there are no sacred cows in this discussion. Let's 132 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: go get everything on the table. Let's make sure that 133 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: we know what you think, you know how we view it, 134 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: and that we find common ground. And when we find that, 135 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: you'll know you have your guy what you say there 136 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: about We want to know what you think about us. 137 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: As we're currently constituted the list of at least NFL 138 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: coaching candidates that have been linked to interviews with Los 139 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: Angeles Rams, many of them, the vast majority of them, 140 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: played against this team at least once, if not twice 141 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: this season. Is part of the reason why you're casting 142 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: a wide net to get on his candid feedback about 143 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: where the roster is in terms of the Rams organization. Well, 144 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: I think there are two reasons to do it. The 145 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: first is you want to know what everybody thinks about 146 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: our football team. This is your best chance to learn 147 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: about your football team and your organization that you're going 148 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: to get. Ever, these people are walking in and telling you, Hey, 149 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: I've played against you, I've studied your team. This is 150 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: what I think your strengths are. This is what I 151 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: think your weaknesses are. You'd be a fool not to 152 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: try to get as much of that opinion as possible, 153 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: to try to get away. And I was, you know, 154 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: there was the inner al Davis. Al Davis used to 155 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: have coaching searches that went on for three four weeks 156 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: because he wanted to talk to everybody about every player 157 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: on his team. And you know, some of it was 158 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 1: just informational, and some of it was you were a 159 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: real candidate. You know, I think for us the way 160 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: it's a different era now, you can't just do informational interviews. 161 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: You know, you have to identify who you want, talk 162 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: to them and have them be candidates. But it is helpful, 163 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: as you've mentioned that nine of the eleven guys that 164 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: we've been linked with have played us because they have experience. 165 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: You know, when you talk to guys, you know, maybe 166 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: it's a team that blew us out, Maybe it's a 167 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: team we played twice and split with. You know, maybe 168 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: it's a team that came down to the very end 169 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: and you know we made a mistake and they said, hey, 170 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: that's your fatal flaw. You learn a lot about your 171 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: football team, and you know, it's easy to walk in 172 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: and say, hey, Aaron Donald, you know Johnny Hecker, you 173 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: know really good players, right, But what you find out is, okay, 174 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: maybe you know your thirty second rand offense. We like 175 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: some of your talent, but maybe your scheme wasn't there. 176 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: Maybe your scheme was there, your talent wasn't there. Those 177 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: are the questions that we're really trying to get to 178 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: the heart of. And people do give you great information 179 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: there and then you can go build that back and filter. 180 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: And I think the one thing is it gets back 181 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: to Miles point. If someone comes in and just wants 182 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: a job, they'll tell you anything. Yeah, that's not a 183 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: good interview. That doesn't help because someone who says I 184 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: love all of your talent, we were four and twelve, 185 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: you know, we were seven and ninety. Like, we know 186 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: that that's not true. What we want is, hey, I 187 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: think you're strong here, but maybe weak are here. And 188 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: you know, one of the other things that we've been 189 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: able to do in this it's not just the coaching candidates. 190 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: We've talked to a lot of you know, Hall of 191 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: Fame Menners people, who have been around this game, who've 192 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: been around these coaching candidates, how do you feel about 193 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: the organization, how do you feel about the talent? What 194 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: coaches would you recommend? And a lot of them have 195 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: given us honest feedback about the roster, many of it 196 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: in a positive way, but also here's where you're deficient. 197 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: And I think those I'm not going to say it, 198 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: but I don't think it takes a genius to figure 199 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: out some of it falls in the offensive side of 200 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: the ball. But you know, those things are all helpful 201 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: is you figure out this puzzle. So then when you 202 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: look at these head coaching candidates, what are some of 203 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: the traits that you prioritize that you would like to 204 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: see in the next Los Angeles Rams head coach. And 205 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: we talked about this is the press conference boom. It's leadership, 206 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: it's getting the most out of the fifty three guys, 207 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: the ten practice squad players, training staff, the equipment staff, 208 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: working hand in hand with personnel. It's leading the organization. 209 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: And you know, the one thing I think you look 210 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: at the past few years, you know, Jack del Rio 211 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: going into the Raiders probably wasn't the most talked about 212 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: higher of that cycle. Jack Delrios in a really good 213 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: job developing Derek Carr in that franchise to where they've gone. 214 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: It's a defensive coach, you know, taking a good young 215 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: offensive player and making them better. Dirk Cutter, you know, 216 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: getting promoted in Tampa and with the improvement Tampa made. 217 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: When you look at Tennessee Mike Mlarkey and the improvement 218 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: they made. I think if you look at John Harbaugh 219 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: coming out of nowhere and you know how that hires gone, 220 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: there's so many different ways to get this right, you know, 221 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: in the formula that works that people look at that, 222 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: I think with the common trait that you find in 223 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: all of them those leadership, there isn't the offensive side 224 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: of the ball, the defensive side of the ball, a 225 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: special team's coach, a college coach. There is no silver 226 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: bolt and head coach. And if you can study all 227 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: the numbers, the analytics, if everybody knew the one formula 228 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: g you would go do it. Yes, And but I 229 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: think you can look at Bill Belichick may go down 230 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: as the most successful coach in NFL history, his tenure 231 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: in Cleveland may not have been if you were looking 232 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: at that today and hiring someone who that kind of tenure. 233 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 1: You might not say, oh boy, that guy's going to 234 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: be the most successful you know, coaching history. Bill Walls 235 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: stutted off struggling, you know, and came from Stanford. There's 236 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: so many different paths, but the key element is leadership, 237 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: having a plan, you know, and being able to relate 238 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: to your players on a personal level and getting the 239 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: most out of them. And I think when you read 240 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 1: the quotes from our players and then you didn't the 241 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: same thing they've told to us, probably you know, we 242 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: need more accountability, we need more discipline, you know, we 243 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 1: need to come together more. We need to figure out 244 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: a way to do that. And I think you need 245 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: to find a head coach who has the leadership abilities 246 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: to get that. And that's not to say that coach 247 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: Fisher didn't have that, sure, I think that's the biggest 248 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: misnomer here. Whatever happened happened for a reason. Jeff Fisher 249 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: was a good football coach. He won a lot of 250 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: games in Tennessee. He's going to finish high up on 251 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: the list of all time coaches and wins. I know 252 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: people have talked about those are you know, really good elements. 253 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: For whatever reason, we weren't finishing games this year. We 254 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: need to go find a way to do that. When 255 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: you look at I think ten games this year that 256 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 1: came down to the final drive out of sixteen. You know, 257 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: if you find a way to win more of those, 258 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: you're in the playoffs. Absolutely. And I think to us 259 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: when you talk about our team, we had the fourth 260 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: quarter lead in Detroit on the road. You know, we 261 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: jumped all over the Giants early, you know, and you 262 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: know how tied in the fourth quarter. You know with them. 263 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: You know, we beat Seattle. You know, we fourth quarter 264 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: lead over the Dolphins. These are all playoff teams that 265 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: we had leads over the fourth quarter and the games 266 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: just got away from us for whatever reason. This team 267 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: is not far, but it's finding that missing ingredient that 268 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: gets you to Detroit, to New York to Miami. For 269 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 1: those teams when we played them, we were all on 270 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: the same level record wise and game wise. For some 271 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: reason they went here, we won here. There are a 272 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: lot of different reasons for that's. Certainly the relocation can 273 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: play into that. But what's that secret formula that get 274 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: to Detroit where you win nine games where you're trailing 275 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. When you go on an eight 276 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: game one streak like the Giants may have done the Dolphins. 277 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: That's what I think we need to go find. Hypothetically, 278 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: you're interviewing me, and we have some mutual interests. We're 279 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: getting close to maybe talking about moving forward. You've mentioned 280 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: Jared Goff as being a pre existing asset that this 281 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: franchise has to offer its next head coach. Would you 282 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: give that coach the opportunity to sit down with Jared 283 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: and see if they're a philosophical match. Maybe that coach 284 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: did or did not have a chance to evaluate Jared 285 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: in the pre draft process, might want to just be 286 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: in the same room with what could be his franchise quarterback. 287 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: Possible or no, Yeah, I think it's possible that you 288 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: could try to find a way to connect them. When 289 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: we did Jeff Fisher, we try to connect him with 290 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: Sam Bradford, you know, the same way, same time, right. 291 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: You want to make sure you know, it gets harder, 292 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: you know, as you go through some of the rules process. 293 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: If you're going to do a team on the buy, 294 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: you have to do it in their facilities, so they're 295 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: not going to have a chance to do that, you know, 296 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: on a second interview, might you be able to figure 297 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: out a way to do that, you know? And I 298 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,599 Speaker 1: wouldn't just say Jared Goff. I would say, you know, 299 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: a couple of other of our players on the lead 300 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: leadership council, you know should be part of the group. 301 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: You know, someone should have a feel for that, maybe 302 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: they know them, you know. One of the nice things 303 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: about a Jared Goff as he did the circuit last 304 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: year as a draft pick, there are a lot of 305 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: teams that spend time with him at the combine that 306 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: may have worked him out privately, so they have a 307 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: better feel for Jared than than maybe some of the 308 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: other players who have come through. But I think the 309 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: players are a key part of this, and it's one 310 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: of the you know, I got asked three weeks ago. 311 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: One of the reasons for the timing of doing this, 312 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: you know, ahead of Monday, is so that you have 313 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: a chance to talk to your players over the course 314 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: of a few weeks and what they value in the 315 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 1: next head coach, what they loved about Jeff, what they want, 316 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: you know, to see come forward. And I think they're 317 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 1: a very key part of this. They're They're going to 318 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 1: be the ones that have to get it out of them. 319 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: We have a young team, you know there will be 320 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: personnel turnover. There's you know, on average, a third of 321 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: your team turns over without a coaching change. With a 322 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 1: coaching change, you know that creeps up a little bit more. 323 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: But with a really young team, you know there's going 324 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: to be some people they say, I really like this guy. 325 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: I do it. But we've got to find the leaders 326 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: in our team. And you know you would like to 327 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: try to find a way to pair your what I 328 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: would say, your finalist. I don't know that you do it. 329 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: You know, with all eleven thirteen guys you talk to 330 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: you but as you get down the last two or three, 331 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: I think it is a positive. What is sort of 332 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: the differences between the sort of first interview and then 333 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: you've got the second interview later that comes at the 334 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: second day. You know, I think what comes down to it, 335 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: and I can only speak from previousperience. If you do 336 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: a first interview, sometimes it's you want them to come 337 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: see the facility. You want them to meet Reggie Scott, 338 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: you know, the trainer. You want them to meet a 339 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: Jimmy Lake, you want them to meet an artist. We'll 340 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: keep them away from from all of you, But it's 341 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: a little bit more of I think when you get 342 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: to the second one, you've agreed on philosophy, Sure, you've 343 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: kind of agreed on approach. It's a little bit more 344 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: fact finding on Okay, what's it like to live near 345 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: the facility? You know, what's it like to come into 346 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: this building every day. Maybe it's a little bit more 347 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: in depth talk about the roster and how you see 348 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: the last twenty guys. I think that's your difference. I mean, 349 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: the first one is so much philosophy and leadership qualities 350 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: and big picture. I think the second one gets a 351 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: little bit more focused on, Hey, we've already agreed that 352 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: we're agreed in a line philosophically. Now we've got to 353 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: talk about players one through sixty three. You've got to 354 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: talk about the setup and how we make this work. 355 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: I would venture a guess that at some point during 356 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: this interviewing process you'll have a candidate a who says, Kevin, 357 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: I think your organization is really close. I think with 358 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: some better decisions in game, with some better player development, 359 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: with a couple of key free agent editions, I think 360 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: we're there in the NFC West next year and there's 361 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: probably a candidate B who says, Kevin, I want to 362 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: take this job. I think the future in Los Angeles 363 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: is bright. But without a first round pick this year, 364 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: with four wins, I'm not sure that it's going to 365 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: be a one or a two year rebuild. It might 366 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: be three to five. Is there one of those theories 367 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: you're more likely to subscribe to. No, I think you 368 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: get I think if you look at that, you get 369 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: a little bit trapped. I think he gets back to 370 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: leadership philosophy, how they want to build their team. And 371 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: you don't to choose someone because they say, hey, we 372 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: can compete next year. You want to choose someone who 373 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: says we have the resources and ability to win Super 374 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: Bowls in Los Angeles, and I'm going to get the 375 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: most out of your players. That maybe next year and 376 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: maybe the following year. I do think. But again, you 377 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: want them to be honest. You want them to come 378 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: and say here's the challenges I see. And I think 379 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: as an organization, you have to be honest enough with 380 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: yourself to say it's easy to it's a quick fix, 381 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: it's one year. It goes back to what we said 382 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: the press conference. As an organization, we need to improve. 383 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: We all know that. We all take that upon our shoulders, 384 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: from a personnel standpoint, from you know, a coaching standpoint, 385 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: from everything that goes into the football team. We have 386 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: to get better. And I would rather someone come in 387 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: and say, these are your awards. We're going to go 388 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: solve them, then pretend they don't exist, because I would 389 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: think that the person isn't being as transparent as they 390 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: need to be. Now they you know, it may be 391 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: the way you look at the world. I'm a one's 392 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: an optimistic person, one's a pessimistic person, and that just 393 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: maybe how you talk with them. But I do think 394 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: you get to the point of, let's be honest. If 395 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: they say, hey, guys, we're not good enough at our jobs, 396 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: and you know I'm going to challenge and push all 397 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: of you or we may need to make changes, I 398 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: think we need to listen to that and we need 399 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: to embrace that rather than hey, you guys are all 400 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: great guys, and I love your team and this is 401 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: a magic pill that's going to fix it. There is 402 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: no magic pill in the NFL. There is no silver bullet. 403 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: What it takes is teamwork, camaraderie, leadership, and if you 404 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: get that right, I think the other portions of nobody 405 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: knows how long these things take. There's worse to first. 406 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: You know, there are two years unfortunately. You know, we 407 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 1: always thought for the past few years we were right 408 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: on the cusp. I think one of the things for 409 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: us it's frustrating is we finished last year three and one. 410 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: You lose an overtime in San Francisco without todd point, 411 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: you start this year three and one over that stretch 412 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: of a camps and I and I'm not cobbling together 413 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: statistics over that half a season, you were six and two. 414 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: Only the Vikings and the Chiefs were really right there, 415 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: you know, with you from a record percent? What went 416 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: wrong from there? Are we closer to that team or 417 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: are we closer to the team they finished all in seven? 418 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: You know that's what we need to answer, honestly. Yeah. Though, 419 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: So one last thing I want to ask is how 420 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: much do assistance factor into the whole head coaching search. 421 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: You know, who a guy can bring with them to 422 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: help develop you know, all the players on both sides 423 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: of the ball. How does that factor into it? You know, 424 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: it certainly factors. And you want to talk to someone 425 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: about a plan. I look at it more of what 426 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 1: do they seek in an assistant when it's not just 427 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: that they come with the list, because I think historically 428 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: people come with the list and then somebody else gets hired. 429 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: A guy goes here. You know, it's not this isn't 430 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: a draft. You know, these guys have choices, and so 431 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: you want to talk to them about philosophy. Right Who 432 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: who do you want as an offense if it's a 433 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: defensive guy, especially if do you want your offensive coordinator? 434 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: What kind of philosophy do you have? Who are two 435 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: or three people who fit that philosophy? What kind of 436 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: assistance do you want? You know, do you want you know, 437 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: assistance who are very hands on, or do you want 438 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: maybe older guys? You know who we are going to 439 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: have a younger assistant, you know, defensive line coach underneath them. 440 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: That's a lot more of philosophy. And they will usually 441 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: come with names and some will say, Hey, I've coach 442 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: of this guy forever, I know he's coming, or hey 443 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: I would love to go talk to this guy. I 444 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: just don't know if I can can get with him. 445 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: The other thing I think you have to talk about 446 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: with assistance is the way the NFL teams aren't obligated 447 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,719 Speaker 1: to grant permission for a linebackers coach to become your 448 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator or for you know, the only thing you 449 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: have to grant permission for is a head coach. And 450 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that many people know that, and that's 451 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: sort of an issue here, and that's really chance, you know. 452 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: I would say a decade ago was kind of commonplace 453 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: that people always allowed for a promotion. Now the game 454 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: has gotten so competitive these coaches, people will invest so 455 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,719 Speaker 1: much time, effort, and money to them. It is rare that, 456 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 1: you know, an offensive line coach can go be a 457 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: coordinator someone unless they have a relationship with the head coach. 458 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: It all depends on the philosophy of the other head coach. 459 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: And because of that, you may target a guy, but 460 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: he may not be available for a year. And I 461 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: think that's okay too, right, you know, I think historically 462 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: we always talk about they have to put together the 463 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: best staff, and you want that, but you also, you know, 464 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: when we asked this question interviews, if you had to 465 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: wait a year for a guy, how would you handle that? 466 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: You know, would you still want to wait a year 467 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: for a guy? You know? Obviously you go hire the position, 468 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: but how do you evaluate some of those scenarios. If 469 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: the best candidate you have gets blocked and you know 470 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: they have a year left, you know, how does that 471 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: play out? And I think you see a great example 472 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: of that, you know, as someone like an advanced Joseph, 473 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: advanced Joseph had you know, didn't have a chance to 474 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: get out. You know, people want to interview him for 475 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: a head coach, but he got blocked as a defensive coordinator, 476 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: and then he went to Miami as a defensive coordinator. 477 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: You know there are you know has done a nice 478 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: job there. But I think when you look at the world, 479 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: you may have to wait a year or two to 480 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: put together a good staff. So I mean, to me, 481 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: that's all part of the coaches philosophy. If you walk 482 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 1: in and say I have to have this staff, I 483 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: have to have these guys right now, I think you're 484 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: going to wind up disappointed in the staff sure that 485 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: you get. I think if it's you know that wide 486 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: receivers coach, I want someone who's played the game, whose 487 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: hands on you know, at quarterbacks coach. You know, maybe 488 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: I want someone who's a little bit more cerebral I 489 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: don't care if they've played. You want philosophies for each 490 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: position and how they want to put it together, because 491 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: then you can probably come up with a list of 492 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: three or four guys at each spot along with them 493 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: that they can go get and usually one of them 494 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: will work out two click hitters for me to finish. 495 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,239 Speaker 1: Because I know Miles and I are not on your 496 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: short list, You're going to spend the better part of 497 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: this week and maybe next vetting NFL candidates. Of course, 498 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: because of the scheduling patterns. Are there still college coaches 499 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: in your pool of candidates? You know? I think when 500 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: you do your homework, you're always intrigued by college coaches, 501 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: and mainly for the reason they have head coaching experience. 502 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: And I think that that's always one of the things 503 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 1: that when you're looking at the leadership qualities and what 504 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: you know, there are head college head coaches have coming 505 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: and done great things. When you look at a Pete Carroll, 506 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: there are college coaches have coming in and struggled to 507 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: adapt a Steve Spurrier. And so I think when you 508 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: do your homework, the one thing I've said over and 509 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: over again is we're not going to limit any opportunity. 510 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: We have to make this a better football organization, and 511 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: I think you have to include college coaches and that 512 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 1: most of them don't want to make the jump. They 513 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: all want to be, you know, in college, and so 514 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: I always say you never rule them out, but you 515 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: also presume they have good head coaching jobs and they 516 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: may not be interested in your opportunity and other NFL opportunities. 517 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: You know, I don't see that as being an active 518 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: part of our search, you know, I think our focus 519 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: right now is assistant coaches in the NFL who are 520 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: likely to become head coaches, because that's the most illogical 521 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: place that you're going to find your next cruiser. Now, 522 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: if there are people who are doing other things that 523 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: you know, the truth of the matter is they're happy 524 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: usually doing what they're doing, whether they're retired, whether they're 525 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: coaching college. There's a reason they're doing that, and I 526 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: think you usually have to do that. But you're doing 527 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: your organization a disservice if you're not doing your homework 528 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: on every potential head coach that you could hire, from 529 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: college to the NFL to those who are out of 530 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: the NFL. And that being said, does that still put 531 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: you in a position to kind of hit that second 532 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: week of January sweet spot that you listed as maybe 533 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: the target area for making a higher You know, I 534 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: we're probably still in that that timeframe. Could he get 535 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: pushed back, could he get moved up? I think those 536 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: are flexible. I think when we look through it, and 537 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: I probably you know, when I walked through at the 538 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: press conference, the history of higher Nates. You know, the 539 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: A list coaches, the no brainers, you know, they typically 540 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 1: go that January tenth to twelve. The next you know 541 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: that Domino starts to fall. The rest of those guys 542 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: go January fifteen, sixteen. But you know, then you get 543 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 1: to the later coaches. You know, I probably should have 544 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: just said, hey, we'll hire a head coach sometime before 545 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: the start of the offseason program. And you know April 546 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: third circled on your calendar. I'm accurate. You know we'll 547 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: have a guy by then. You know, this could wrap 548 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: up this weekend and could wrap up next week, It 549 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 1: could wrap up up after the super Bowl, and it 550 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,959 Speaker 1: goes back to the same point. The number one goal 551 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: is getting this right for the Los Angeles Rams, and 552 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: I'd probably in hinds to tape that is the history 553 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: of when guys get hired. I think you want to 554 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 1: try to move forward with the organization and get in 555 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: place really by mid January. But if that doesn't happen, 556 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: I don't think that means we haven't lived up to 557 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: our timeline. I think it means that we're we're curious 558 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: about people who are still exist, there's more due diligence 559 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: to be done, or you know, something else has happened 560 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: that's caused us to deviate from a timeline. All right, well, Kevin, 561 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,239 Speaker 1: thank you very very much for your time, and then 562 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: you've got more phone calls to make, more visits to make, 563 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: so we'll let you get back to it. So for Jblong, 564 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: I'm Miles Simmons. That is this episode of the Search. 565 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: Be sure to stay tuned to the Rams dot com 566 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: as we've got more throughout the month of January.