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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in appreciate all of you hanging out with us.

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Speaker 2: Tuesday edition of the program. We have got a lot

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Speaker 2: to dive into. Off the top, letting you know, we'll

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Speaker 2: be joined by South Carolina Congresswoman Nancy Mace at one

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Speaker 2: that is about an hour from now, to talk about

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Speaker 2: her explosive interview with George Stepanopolis, which we discussed yesterday.

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Speaker 2: How unfair did she feel it was? What more would

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Speaker 2: she like to say with this forum and this audience.

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Speaker 2: We will give her that forum and I believe that

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Speaker 2: will be a enlightening conversation. She is the only guest

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Speaker 2: scheduled for today. Right now, as we are speaking, Robert

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Speaker 2: her special counsel who investigated Joe Biden's own classified document scandal,

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Speaker 2: testifying on Capitol Hill. We have some cuts from him

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Speaker 2: and we'll play those here for you momentarily. But a

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Speaker 2: couple of things right off the top here. Joe Biden,

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Speaker 2: based on the transcript, has been proven to have lied

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Speaker 2: about Robert Herb bringing up his son's death. Joe Biden,

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Speaker 2: as he often does when he gets a little bit

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Speaker 2: uncomfortable or he seems to be a bit unraveled. Always

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Speaker 2: seems to go to bo Biden's death as some sort

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Speaker 2: of security blanket to protect him. This is the way

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Speaker 2: it feels to me, from being grilled about decisions that

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Speaker 2: he has made that have absolutely nothing at all to

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Speaker 2: do with his son's death. And will read some of

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Speaker 2: the transcript because they have not released the audio, but

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Speaker 2: I think it's pretty devastating to Joe Biden.

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Speaker 3: It proves that he has lied.

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Speaker 2: This is not being testified about today, but I want

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Speaker 2: to make sure we hit on this tu buck. The

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Speaker 2: Cassidy Hutchinson, Oh, Donald Trump grabbed the steering wheel and

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Speaker 2: he tried to choke. The secret Service agent was all Ie.

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Speaker 2: The secret Service agent testimony has now been released. All

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Speaker 2: those people on the January sixth committee were aware of

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Speaker 2: what the Secret Service agents were testifying to. They knew

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Speaker 2: that Cassidy Hutchinson's entire story was BS. As we said

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Speaker 2: on this program, she was talking about second and third

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Speaker 2: degree information. That is, she never was an actual witness.

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Speaker 2: Everything she testified to was hearsay. It would not typically

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Speaker 2: have been admissible in any normal court. Yet it was

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Speaker 2: front page news everywhere. She got a massive book deal.

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Speaker 2: She became one of the faces, if not the face

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Speaker 3: It was all lie.

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Speaker 2: Pay attention to whether anybody in the mainstream media gives

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Speaker 2: a sentilla of attention to that story that they gave

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Speaker 2: to the initial, second and third hand reporting from Cassidy Hutchinson.

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Speaker 2: But let's go to Robert her We've pulled a couple

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Speaker 2: of cuts from you for you guys, and we'll dive

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Speaker 2: into what his testimony is showing. The testimony to me

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Speaker 2: buck less significant than the release two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: page of the actual transcript of Joe Biden's interview. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk more about that as well. But here is Robert

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Speaker 2: Hurr on Capitol Hill today testifying about his report. Let's

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Speaker 2: can play cut two.

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Speaker 3: Back to back if you guys want to. It's about

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Speaker 3: a minute and a half.

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Speaker 4: There has been a lot of attention paid to language

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Speaker 4: and the report about the president's memory, so let me

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Speaker 4: say a few words about that. My task was to

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Speaker 4: determine whether the president retained or disclosed national defense information willfully.

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Speaker 4: That means knowingly and with the intent to do something

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Speaker 4: the law forbids. I could not make that determination without

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Speaker 4: assessing the president's state of mind. For that reason, I

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Speaker 4: had to consider the president's memory an overall mental state,

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Speaker 4: and how a jury likely would precede his memory and

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Speaker 4: mental state in a criminal trial. These are the types

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Speaker 4: of issues that prosecutors analyze every day, and because these

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Speaker 4: issues were important to my ultimate decision, I had to

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Speaker 4: Attorney General. The evidence and the president himself put his

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Speaker 4: memory squarely at issue. We interviewed the President and asked

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Speaker 4: him about his recorded statement quote I just found all

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Speaker 4: He told us that he didn't remember saying that to

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Speaker 4: report about the relevance of the president's memory was necessary, accurate,

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Speaker 4: and fair. Most importantly, what I wrote is what I

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Speaker 4: perceive and believe. I did not sanitize my explanation, nor

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Speaker 4: did I disparage the president unfairly. I explained to the

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Speaker 4: what I was required to do.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Clay.

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Speaker 5: The problem Democrats run into is very obvious here, and

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Speaker 5: I think it's been clear from the first moments that

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Speaker 5: the her report came out on this.

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Speaker 3: The the reason for the Biden.

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Speaker 5: Excusal is legally helpful but politically damaging, and it is

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Speaker 5: that he's too old, he's too feeble minded, he has

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Speaker 5: the memory of somebody who perhaps is suffering from dementia.

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Speaker 3: And so Democrats, on the one.

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Speaker 5: Hand, are refusing to be thankful or grateful to her

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Speaker 5: because he could have very well said yeah, no, he

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Speaker 5: definitely violated the Espionage Act. They've did it a bunch

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Speaker 5: of times. We can't prosecute him right now because he's

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Speaker 5: the president, but he definitely broke the law in a

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Speaker 5: way that would be prosecuted. Instead, he said, look, he

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Speaker 5: didn't know, he's too old, he forgot things. He didn't

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Speaker 5: mean anything bad by doing this. Now, put aside whether

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Speaker 5: all that's true or not, I'm just saying this is

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Speaker 5: the reality is they're then turning around and saying, well,

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Speaker 5: that is a problem for us in reelection, So we're

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Speaker 5: going to attack her for the ex sculpatory explanation about

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Speaker 5: Biden's you know, dementious anility, whatever you want to call it,

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Speaker 3: Time, that will be used against us.

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Speaker 5: But you know, they can't knock down one without either

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Speaker 5: Biden is too old and forgetful and senile, or he

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Speaker 5: violated the Espionage Act then.

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Speaker 3: Should be charged accordingly. Right, they want to have it

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Speaker 5: They obviously can't have it both ways, and that's why

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Speaker 5: they're throwing up all these smoke screens. And you know,

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Speaker 5: I saw our friend Andy McCarthy earlier this morning and

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Speaker 5: he said on TV, he said, the Trump case, the

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Speaker 5: mar A Lago documents case, should just be moved to

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Speaker 5: an obstruction case entirely. Now, why won't they do that? Right,

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Speaker 5: wipe away the Espionage Act from all of this and say, well,

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Speaker 5: Trump was obstructing. They won't do it because they know

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Speaker 2: I got an idea for you, Buck, and I didn't

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Speaker 2: what I think is probably the most pertinent aspect of

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Speaker 2: the two hundred and fifty pages that I've seen so far,

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Speaker 2: the testimony. What if you we do a dramatic reading,

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Speaker 2: because it's usually hard, we don't have the audio of this.

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Speaker 2: I think you could play the role of Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: in your Biden voice, and I will play the role

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Speaker 2: of all the advisors and questioners on the other side

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Speaker 2: of this transcript, and we can have a dramatic reading.

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Speaker 2: We will recreate almost like they do for the historical documentaries,

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Speaker 2: you know, where they have the recreated battles. We will

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Speaker 2: do our own version of the transcript at twelve thirty.

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Speaker 2: You will play Biden, I think at a high level,

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Speaker 2: other individuals who are interjecting commentary, and you guys will

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Speaker 2: her he claimed, right out in front of everybody. The

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Speaker 3: Up my son and when he died.

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Speaker 2: The transcript clearly makes it apparent Biden brought all this up.

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Speaker 2: This wasn't the special counsel at all. But listen, I

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Speaker 2: his mind. Listen to Joe Biden. Why to the American

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Speaker 6: I know there's some attention paid to some language and

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Speaker 6: report about my recollection of events. There's even reference that

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Speaker 6: I don't remember when my son died.

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Speaker 3: How in the hell dare he raise that?

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Speaker 6: Frankly, when I was asked the question, I thought to myself,

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Speaker 6: wasn't any of their damn business.

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Speaker 2: This is all why I mean in this this should

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Speaker 2: I think released, because the transcript now proves Biden brought

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Speaker 3: He didn't get asked questions about it.

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Speaker 5: At all Biden's entire career or anyone who cares to

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Speaker 5: He will say anything, you know, lie, he'll change his position,

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Speaker 5: combat death. And that's not true. But he keeps doing

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Speaker 3: He brings up his dead family members all the.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm Joe Biden.

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Speaker 5: the dead. I mean, we've talked about this. It's particularly odious.

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Speaker 5: He will say that a drunk driver, he has said

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Speaker 3: That is a lie.

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Speaker 5: And can you imagine, as we've said, imagine the belief

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Speaker 3: It wasn't the other driver's fault at all. And he

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Speaker 3: you imagine that? I mean, he's basically calling an innocent

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Speaker 2: Not only that I can't get past, he made his

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Speaker 3: This is this is.

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Speaker 2: Not the actions of a normal person. I mean, whatever

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Speaker 3: You would be like, dude, take the day. What are

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Speaker 2: That would be an irrational, weird, strange, indefensible decision by

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Speaker 5: It is exploitative to the point of being sociopathic. I

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Speaker 5: This is crazy, But he has exploited the sympathy of

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Speaker 5: And so it's interesting because his whole I connect with

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Speaker 3: Did you know that my wife died in a car

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Speaker 5: I mean, this is what Joe Biden does, he uses

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Speaker 2: Every time he faces any sort of challenge, he tries

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Speaker 1: The Truth Compass Pointing do right every day. The Clay

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Speaker 5: Welcome back into Clay and Vodka has promised in a

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Speaker 5: few minutes, will give you our dramatic interpretation of or

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Speaker 5: I guess it's a dramatic reenactment. That's what they do

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Speaker 5: in the true crime shows, right, they always have the

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Speaker 5: reenactment of the incident. Yes, it's never it's like never

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Speaker 5: quite right. It's never quite as scary as it should be,

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Speaker 5: of a special council here and how he brought his son.

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Speaker 3: Into the mix.

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Speaker 5: And I've got to say, whenever I see members of

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Speaker 5: It feels like I can see the little marionette strings,

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Speaker 5: like the little the puppeteer strings behind them. Because Clay,

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Speaker 5: nobody is this dumb. Everybody knows that Joe Biden is

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Speaker 5: And you're a bad person if you're making fun of

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Speaker 5: you're just doing your civic duty.

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Speaker 3: Same thing with the memory.

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Speaker 2: Also, they're trapped because if you argue this is an

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Speaker 2: mean to me, Robert her, the reason he has to

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Speaker 2: talk about the mental capacity is because that's why I remember,

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Speaker 2: he's not saying that Joe Biden should be charged with

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Speaker 2: And so that is I think so significant here in

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Speaker 2: I guarantee you're going to like these this dramatic reading,

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Speaker 2: Sexton show. All right, this is and we're still pulling,

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Speaker 2: by the way Robert Her testimony that we're gonna play

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Speaker 2: for all of you. I think they should have to

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Speaker 2: release the audio of this. They clearly have audio. They've

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Speaker 2: released the two hundred and fifty page transcript. This to

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Speaker 2: me is the essence where it has proven that Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden lied. And I've got the transcript in front of me.

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Speaker 2: Buck has it in front of him, so we're gonna

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Speaker 2: who's like a court transcriptor by he has a coterie

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Speaker 2: of advisors there trying to keep him from saying anything

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Speaker 2: during this five hour interview that could get him in

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: It starts with Joe Biden saying, responding to a question

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Speaker 5: So he says, well, I don't know, this is what

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Speaker 3: And so it was.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, there were still a lot of

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Speaker 5: except the president. I'm not, and not a mean thing

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Speaker 5: I hadn't. I hadn't at this point, even though I'm

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Speaker 5: I'd be running for president. And so what was happening though?

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Speaker 5: What month did bo die?

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Speaker 5: And what's happened in the meantime is that as and

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Speaker 2: Just to clarify, he got the year that Trump was

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Speaker 2: so why do I have twenty seventeen here? And then

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Speaker 2: say shouldn't he know what.

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Speaker 3: Year the election is?

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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I said, no, subs billion matter anyway.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how many of you out there have trouble

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Speaker 3: I mean it's every four years.

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Speaker 2: Another person who is in there ed Siskell, Biden's White

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, but that's when Trump gets sworn in January.

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Speaker 2: Right, says Biden's White House Council. Right correct says Biden's

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Speaker 2: personal counsel Biden.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, and in twenty seventeen, bo had passed and

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Speaker 5: this is personal, okay.

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Speaker 2: And then the transcript, just to kind of lay it out,

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Speaker 2: then he spends a whole long time talking about how

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Speaker 2: he came to write Promise me Dad, based on his

447
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Speaker 2: son's dying.

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Speaker 3: All those other things.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So just in that little subset that we read,

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Speaker 2: and again, I would love to actually have the audio

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Speaker 2: come out. Biden can't remember the year when his son died,

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Speaker 2: doesn't seem to have any recollection when he was vice president,

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Speaker 2: doesn't know when Trump was elected, and all of that

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Speaker 2: directly refutes the audio. Can we play, just for everybody

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Speaker 2: out there, the audio when Biden came out right after

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Speaker 2: this report came out. Guys, can you queue up again?

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Speaker 2: We just read you Biden is dead to rights, lying

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Speaker 2: proven beyond the shadow of a doubt. He then comes

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Speaker 2: out and angrily says I couldn't believe they were questioning me.

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Speaker 2: You heard he's got five different people trying to help

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Speaker 2: him here. But here is Biden script basically yelling that

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Speaker 2: how dare they bring up my son's death? He brought

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Speaker 2: it up, and he laid out all the details. Listen

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Speaker 2: to this again.

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Speaker 6: There's some attention paid to some language and report about

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Speaker 6: my recollection of events. There's even reference that I don't

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Speaker 6: remember when my son died.

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Speaker 3: How in the hell dare he raise that?

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Speaker 6: Franklin? When I was asked the question, I thought to myself,

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Speaker 6: wasn't any of their damn business?

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's I mean, really strange that he would

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Speaker 2: come out and say that.

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 5: I wish we had the transcripts back to back to play,

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Speaker 5: but I would argue Clay that for Biden, this is

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Speaker 5: the reflex that he has built up over forty years

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Speaker 5: in political life. Where he's cornered, he goes to, how

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Speaker 5: dare you talk about my personal tragedy? Joe Biden is

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Speaker 5: so desperate and pathetic on this issue that he will,

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Speaker 5: as we see here by the transcript, bring up personal tragedy,

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Speaker 5: be incorrect about the personal tragedy, and then say how

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Speaker 5: dare you bring up my personal tragedy. I mean, this

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Speaker 5: is this is what I mean by its pathological stuff.

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Speaker 5: Although at this stage it used to be he was

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Speaker 5: doing it to be manipulative. At this stage, I think

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Speaker 5: it's a combination of manipulation and sanility, dementia. I think

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Speaker 5: it's real.

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Speaker 2: So Buck, I'm just going through just this small little

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Speaker 2: segment that we read.

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Speaker 3: I am counting.

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Speaker 2: Five different people, potentially seven because the unidentified male speaker

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Speaker 2: we don't know who this is from the transcript. At

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Speaker 2: least five different people are there working to try to

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Speaker 2: help Joe Biden during this interview. And to me, what

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Speaker 2: this clarifies is what we've told you for some time,

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Speaker 2: and I think all of you know it. There is

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Speaker 2: no way that Joe Biden is remotely competent in private.

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Speaker 2: All of these people who keep saying, oh he's sharpest

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Speaker 2: attack as you said, oh he works longer hours than

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Speaker 2: any of us. So I could only hope to dream

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Speaker 2: to be as good at this as Joe Biden is.

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Speaker 3: They're lying, and they're lying pretty pretty.

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Speaker 2: Blatantly, and Joe Biden himself is caught in a lie

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Speaker 2: here about this stun questioning.

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Speaker 5: This is classic propaganda manipulation tactic at work here, because

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Speaker 5: you know, if you were in the Soviet Union and

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Speaker 5: whether it's Stalin or Khrushchev, and they're going to talk

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Speaker 5: about in the midst of like a famine, Let's say,

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Speaker 5: they're gonna talk about the grain harvest. They're not going

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Speaker 5: to say we're having a tough time in the grain

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Speaker 5: harvest this year while they are people starving. They're gonna say,

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Speaker 5: we had the best grain harvest. Ever, what do you mean,

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Speaker 5: how do you not see that we had the best

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Speaker 5: grain harvest in the history of you know, Mother Russia

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Speaker 5: or the Soviet Union or whatever point being. They go

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Speaker 5: the exact opposite direction because it makes you question in reality.

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Speaker 5: That's the oh Joe Biden is sharp as attack thing,

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Speaker 5: because it'd be one thing, right clay if they're saying, yeah,

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Speaker 5: look he's a little fuzzy, but he's still.

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Speaker 3: Good enough whatever. No, no, no, they're not.

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Speaker 5: They can't even open that up because it's so obvious

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Speaker 5: that he's actually got the dementia and the sanility that

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Speaker 5: we talk about all the time. So instead of even

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Speaker 5: trying to deal in reality, they go to anti truth.

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Speaker 5: They go to the polar opposite side of and say,

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Speaker 5: this guy's sharp clay. We just played uh, morning, Joe,

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Speaker 5: and what do you say, the best he's ever been?

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Speaker 5: Joe Biden is now the best he's ever been. This

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Speaker 5: is on a you know, on a cable news show.

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Speaker 5: As dishonest as it may be, it is still airing

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Speaker 5: on US television.

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Speaker 3: It's absurd. No, and and again this is this is

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Speaker 3: dead to write stuff.

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Speaker 2: And I'm gonna play a couple of more cuts from

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Speaker 2: Robert Hurst's testimony when we come back, because I think

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Speaker 2: it's devastating again synthesizing this. Democrats are in an incredible

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Speaker 2: difficulty here because they've tried to attack Robert Herr's Special

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Speaker 2: Counsel report as being political in nature and uniquely unfair

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Speaker 2: to Joe Biden. But actually, when you unpack this and

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Speaker 2: you hear his testimony, he had to go to mental state,

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Speaker 2: because that's the only reason Joe Biden was in charged

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Speaker 2: with the crime. So you either have to argue Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden should be charged with a crime because his mental

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Speaker 2: state is actually quite strong and he had the mensarrea

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Speaker 2: to be responsible here, or you have to acknowledge that

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Speaker 2: his mental state is not strong enough for him to

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Speaker 2: avoid criminal charges, and they're really painted into a corner here.

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Speaker 5: This doesn't even get any discussion or focus right now,

549
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Speaker 5: but it should. There are a lot of people out

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Speaker 5: there with access to classified information, and the next time

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Speaker 5: something comes up where someone, let's say, wilfully discloses if

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Speaker 5: you don't have any explanation for why Joe Biden isn't

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Speaker 5: being charged other than well, he's kind of important right

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Speaker 5: now because he's the president.

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Speaker 3: Guess what the next person who comes along on what

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Speaker 3: basis are you going to say?

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Speaker 5: And to be clear, even Democrats argue Joe Biden could

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Speaker 5: be charged when he's not president concede right, I mean,

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Speaker 5: if he doesn't, they're the one saying that there's no

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Speaker 5: absolute presidential immunity for committing a You know, this isn't

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Speaker 5: an official art. This is a felony. It's not like

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Speaker 5: he made a decision to invade a country and we

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Speaker 5: disagree with it. He's breaking the law. But how can

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Speaker 5: you have somebody else held to this standard when the

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Speaker 5: commander in chief isn't held to the standard. So you

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Speaker 5: had to come up with some explanation for why what

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Speaker 5: he did isn't criminal, Otherwise it can't be criminal if

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Speaker 5: you're in a rule of law society. When somebody else

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Speaker 5: does this, you know, when some other guy who's not

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Speaker 5: important or gal who's not important, I mean, somebody just

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Speaker 5: got the kid with the you know who posted it

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Speaker 5: with like with video game friends posted the Ukraine stuff.

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Speaker 5: I think he just got sentenced to fifteen or twenty years.

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Speaker 5: He just got absolutely annihilated.

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Speaker 2: Young Air Force employee who was like in the discord

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Speaker 2: chat sharing all those different doctions.

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Speaker 5: And some people on the right unfortunately thought, oh, he's

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Speaker 5: a whistleblower. No, he wasn't a whistleblower. They should have

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Speaker 5: called me first before they went on TV and said

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Speaker 5: these things. He wasn't a whistleblower. He was showing off

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Speaker 3: But he's just a dumb teenager. He was a dumb

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Speaker 3: he's a dumb young guy, and he got I think

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Speaker 5: I mean, you could check me on that, but I

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Speaker 5: think that's what he just got, which is a really

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Speaker 5: Maybe it's a maximum of fifteen so maybe he won't,

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Speaker 5: but if it's federal, he has to serve the whole sentence.

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Speaker 5: So I have to go see I just saw the

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Speaker 5: me on how much time he just got for disclosing

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Speaker 3: Him sixteen years.

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Speaker 5: That is that is a really heavy sentence for somebody

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Speaker 5: for disclosing classified So that's how seriously they take that stuff.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes with Joe Biden, you know, he can put it

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Speaker 5: in the bottom of the corvette.

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Speaker 3: No big deal.

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Speaker 5: Let's get Don the truckdriver coming to us from Iowa.

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Speaker 5: He's a Marine vet.

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Speaker 3: What's up Don?

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Speaker 7: Hi, guys play Buck, good show. Thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 3: Bluck.

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Speaker 7: I'm not talking to you on this because you know

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Speaker 7: all everything I'm going to say. I want us to

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Speaker 7: call and make people aware. You guys are doing a

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Speaker 7: great job talking about the severity of Joe Biden having

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Speaker 7: all these classified emails. What's not being talked about is

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Speaker 7: the potential of compromise when Joe Biden leaves it in

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Speaker 7: a house in his garage next to his corvette, then

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Speaker 7: rents the house out to a crackhead who would sell

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Speaker 7: his mother's teeth if she left him on the night

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Speaker 7: stands or in Chinatown or any place else where there.

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Speaker 7: The possibility of compromise is huge. I had a top

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Speaker 7: secret intel clarence in the Marine Corps, and every one

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Speaker 7: of those would have been every single email would have

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Speaker 7: been considered compromise in the intel community would be upside

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Speaker 7: down over them all.

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 2: That actually don leads into a cut I wanted to play.

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Speaker 2: This is Robert Hurt testifying it wasn't just in the

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Speaker 2: garage by the corvette. Listen to cut twenty seven. All

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Speaker 2: of the places. This is Representative Kelly Armstrong of North

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Speaker 2: Dakota asking Robert Herr about all the locations where there

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Speaker 2: were classified documents found seven of them.

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Speaker 8: Listen, mister, her classified documents were found at the pen

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Speaker 8: Biden Center.

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Speaker 3: That's correct.

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Speaker 8: They were found in President Biden's garage in Wilmington, Delaware. Yes,

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Speaker 8: and in his basement den. Also in the same home, yes,

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Speaker 8: in the major and his main floor office correct, and

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Speaker 8: his third floor den correct, At the University of Delaware, correct,

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Speaker 8: And at the Biden Institute correct.

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Speaker 2: Seven different places buck that they found classified documents.

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Speaker 3: Something to keep.

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Speaker 2: Everybody is focusing on presidential immunity for Donald Trump in

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Speaker 2: his case in front of the Supreme Court. Why couldn't

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden be prosecuted? If Donald Trump wins election? Why

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Speaker 2: couldn't he be prosecuted for these classified documents if he's

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Speaker 2: a private citizen in January of twenty twenty five to me,

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Speaker 2: if they rule that there isn't substantial presidential immunity here,

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Speaker 2: Biden could be potentially facing years in prison if he

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Speaker 2: loses the election.

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Speaker 3: If he loses the election, all of a sudden, they'll

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Speaker 3: be saying, well.

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Speaker 5: You know, a president can pardon himself, right and his son,

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Speaker 5: and that's what the Constitution's all about. Biden pardoning himself

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Speaker 5: parted because he's definitely pardoning Hunter.

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Speaker 3: We know that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, very flexible ethics these Democrats have, or just

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Speaker 5: no ethics. We'll talk to Nancy Mace here of Congress

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Speaker 5: and just a few stay with us.