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Speaker 1: Welcome to Playmakers. I'm Hayley Ellwood and joining me today

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Speaker 1: is Kaylee Campin. It's Thanksgiving week, so Kaylee is here

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Speaker 1: to talk all things football and family because she's the

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Speaker 1: daughter of Chargers offensive line coach James Campin. And we're

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Speaker 1: about films in NFL films because that's where she works. Kaylee,

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Speaker 1: thanks for coming on. Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't have imagined a better time. I know, right,

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Speaker 1: it kind of works out like that. I'm really glad. Yep,

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Speaker 1: the holiday season. I'm actually really excited to have you

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Speaker 1: because I've had significant others of our players and coaches on,

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Speaker 1: but I've never had someone who's the child of a

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Speaker 1: coach on. And I think your perspective is just one

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Speaker 1: that's really unique and I look forward to what you

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Speaker 1: have to say. Oh well, thank you. I appreciate that

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Speaker 1: and I'm excited to be here. Thanks. So look, we

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Speaker 1: hear it all the time. Football is family, but for

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Speaker 1: you guys, for the camp Ins, it truly, truly is

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Speaker 1: what does the game of football mean to your family?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it means everything. It's been a part of

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Speaker 1: our lives since I've entered this world. It's obviously been

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Speaker 1: a huge part of my dad's life, his whole entire life,

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Speaker 1: and so he's really instilled that into all of us,

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Speaker 1: and it's you know, brought us all together. All you know,

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Speaker 1: the football season is the football season, but really we

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Speaker 1: all know the football season is three hundred and sixty

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Speaker 1: family is. I would say, what was it like to

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Speaker 1: grow up with a dad who coached? You know, it

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Speaker 1: was It's definitely special. When I was very little, he

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Speaker 1: It's funny because a lot of people say he had

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Speaker 1: My dad has two daughters. It's myself and my sister,

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Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, you know, you didn't have sons

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Speaker 1: then he has his you know, his offensive line room

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Speaker 1: really good way of putting it. I had a conversation

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Speaker 1: runs Galvanized, which is a program for women in sports

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Speaker 1: It's all the same, yeah, exactly. You mentioned obviously how

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Speaker 1: seven years old. And green Bay's like nowhere else if

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Speaker 1: you mentioned COVID, How though, has it affected your job

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Speaker 1: you for that. Yes, yes, he's not the most text

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Speaker 1: I would have never thought we'd all be spending half

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Speaker 1: But yeah, we've done a lot of Zoom interviews. Obviously

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Speaker 1: and it's really cool to be on the same schedule.

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Speaker 1: And we keep hoping we'll end up at the same game,

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Speaker 1: few weeks tog Kaylee, thanks for coming on. I really

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Speaker 1: really appreciate it. This was a lot of fun. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for sharing your insight. Thank you so much. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Anytime