1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Hell, Lord, I want to walk up to another edition 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: of Magic Pod Squad, Dante Marcatelli, George Galante, catch up 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: with Magic, great Hall of Famer Tracy McGrady lots to 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: cover with Tea Mac and Magic fans. Of course, remember 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: the Forida Department of Transportation reminds you that fans don't 6 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: let fans drive drunk. 7 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: If you've been drinking, don't get behind the wheel. Instead, 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: find a sober driver or catch a ride service. Remember, 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: drive sober or get pulled over. Have a great night 10 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: and drive safe. Oh we go all the way back 11 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 2: in the time machine with Temac on his decision to 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: come to City Beautiful, some great stories and some insights 13 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: that Tracy has never told. On his decision to come 14 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: to Orlando and at that time joined Grant Hill, Daryl 15 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: Armstrong and an up and coming Orlando Magic team. Then 16 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 2: his Hall of Fame career, his big scoring nights, his 17 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: mentality on the offensive end here in his time in 18 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: Orlando twice leading the league in scoring, Then his Hall 19 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: of Fame career that took him to Houston as well, 20 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: some of his favorite teammates that he's played with along 21 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: the way, and his thoughts on his current Orlando Magic 22 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: team and how good the Magic can be this season. 23 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: We cover it all with Magic Hall, a favorite team 24 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: act on this edition of Magic Pod Squad. 25 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 3: Does his fawns long enough to Orlando Magic. 26 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 4: This is col Anthony, this is Jennings Suggs. This is 27 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 4: Paulo Man Carroll the Orlando Magic and you're listening to 28 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 4: the Pod Squad. 29 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 3: Welcome to another edition of Orlando Magic Pod Squad. Dante Marcatelli, 30 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 3: George Galante and I. You know we talked about the 31 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 3: last time it doesn't get old for me? Could it 32 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 3: possibly get old for you? Being introduced as Hall of 33 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 3: Famer Tracy McGrady. I loved that. 34 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 4: That's a you can never get tired, that never gets old. Right. 35 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 4: Hearing that never, I wouldn't think. 36 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 3: So, No, you don't have them. 37 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 5: He doesn't get old. It doesn't get old for me 38 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 5: saying it right right. 39 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 3: He doesn't walk around with the jacket anymore, though, So 40 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 3: that's nice. 41 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 4: He doesn't. 42 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 5: I have pictures. I have images of you in my 43 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 5: head of just walking around your house just like with 44 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 5: the jacket and maybe boxer shorts like that. Is that wrong? 45 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 4: Well? First thought is I'm alarmed that you think of 46 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 4: me that way. 47 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 5: As soon as I said it, I thought to Paul, 48 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 5: but you know. 49 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 4: Last pause that I was just of me walking all 50 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 4: the miles. 51 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 5: I would wear a kitchen. I would wear it by 52 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 5: the pool. I would wear it like I would wear 53 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 5: it to the bathroom. 54 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 4: It's hanging up, just hanging up in a frame. Ye, 55 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 4: it's put up in the house, man, And you know 56 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 4: every time I walk in in the house, I see it. 57 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 3: It's well, let's address the elephant in the room. You 58 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 3: George and I got older and you didn't. Somehow I 59 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 3: have gray in my beard, gray in my hair. How 60 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 3: did you want? 61 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 4: Did you not there? They? They're there the last time, hold. 62 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 5: On the last time I was here, the beard was fuller. 63 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 5: And it definitely why you had to you had to 64 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 5: pull it back. 65 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, keep it a little. 66 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 5: But the hair cut. The hair cuts back to like. 67 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 4: Trying to keep looking man. You know, stay healthy, stand active. 68 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 4: Life's good, Life's been good. You know, been out the game. 69 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 4: What eleven years? 70 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 3: Well, what is life like now? What is day to 71 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 3: day for Tracy McGrady. 72 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 4: Well, kids are older now. I have a daughter at 73 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 4: the U. This is her junior year. Just dropped my 74 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 4: son off at I MG. This is his last year 75 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 4: of high school. So I'm busy with my kids business ventures. 76 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 4: I'm actually on my way to China here in another week. 77 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 4: So just just stand active. You know, business is still good. 78 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 4: Business is booming. Business, Business is booming. You know. I 79 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 4: have a great team around me that you know after 80 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 4: I retired. Man, we just created a brand and we're 81 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 4: building on it. 82 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 5: Do kids still now? I mean, are you quick to 83 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 5: pull up YouTube videos of yourself? 84 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 4: Like? 85 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 5: Do they do they still have? Do you do you 86 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 5: still get that? Since when when people I mean I 87 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 5: told you when you walked in here, I've seen more 88 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 5: people in the facility now, fact that since the building 89 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 5: is open, it is crazy, Like does do you still 90 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 5: get that around town? Or is that taper off. 91 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 4: A little bit? I still get it, man, you know, 92 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 4: I've You know what's great is when I play here, 93 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 4: Magic did a great job of the NBA did a 94 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 4: great job of marketing me, like when I was here, 95 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 4: Like I had the number one selling Jersey in other countries, 96 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So that still lives on, 97 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 4: Like even though I've been retired, you know, all this time, 98 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 4: and haven't been in a uniform here in twenty years, 99 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 4: like that still lives on wherever I go abroad, you know, 100 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 4: domestically it doesn't it doesn't matter. 101 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 5: And that's crazy to think, by the way too, Like 102 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,799 Speaker 5: he just said, twenty years years, that means we're all old. 103 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 5: I mean I feel yeah, but twenty does it? That's 104 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 5: weird that you've been gone here for twenty years now. 105 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 4: It doesn't feel like it, but it's been twenty years. Man. 106 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 3: You know, since we last talked, we've talked to John 107 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,119 Speaker 3: Gabriel and we think about that summer that you came 108 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 3: and Grant came, and we have now learned that Tim 109 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 3: Duncan was almost all almost here as well. 110 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 4: And. 111 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 3: Where I were sad again, come on, but still what 112 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 3: you were able to do two times scoring champion, you 113 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 3: get to the playoffs two times? I mean, what do 114 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 3: you think of with your four years here? Because you 115 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 3: didn't have there wasn't a ton of luck. You know, 116 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 3: we know about the grand situation and we know Tim 117 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 3: didn't come, but what you were able to do was 118 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 3: so special. 119 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 4: Here's what because you know people always you know, you 120 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 4: didn't get out of the first round. You do do 121 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 4: y'all realize I was the second best player on this 122 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 4: Magic team. That oh I said, people don't understand right, right, 123 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 4: I was the second best player on this team. Grant 124 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 4: here at that time was a better freaking player than 125 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 4: Tracy McGrady. I mean that's not sugar coated. He was 126 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 4: so the fact that, you know, I was a role 127 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 4: player and then came into a situation where the keys 128 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 4: were handed to me due to injury of Grant. I 129 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 4: did what I could, absolutely and at that time, and 130 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 4: it's not like, you know, you you have your best 131 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 4: player that's out. It's not like we could go get 132 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 4: more players because of the saliary cap at that time, 133 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 4: we can't really trade, you know, to get to improve 134 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 4: our team. We were stuck. So what we had, you know, 135 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 4: with the Magic with Grant being out, I mean we 136 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 4: battled and did what we could. 137 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 5: I don't think I've ever asked you what what was 138 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 5: that conversation like between I'm assuming it would be you 139 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 5: and Doc and the coaching staff when when we know 140 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 5: that Grant is out for an extended time, what is 141 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 5: said to you by the by Doc and by the 142 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 5: coaches like to change. I'm sure that we had a 143 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 5: plan going into the season with Grant and you and 144 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 5: Mike on the Mike Miller was a rookie at the 145 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 5: time that first year. What's that conversation like between the 146 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 5: coaches and you behind closed doors? 147 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 4: It really wasn't a lot said you gotta do more, 148 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 4: you gotta do more, you gotta lead us. So it's 149 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 4: up to you, now, you know what I mean. I 150 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 4: was twenty one years old, right right. 151 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 5: I forgot about that. 152 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 3: Twenty years old. 153 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 4: I was ony one. 154 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 3: That's a lot to take on you. 155 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 4: I was twenty one years old. I was still learning. 156 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 4: I was still learning. It was a lot that I 157 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 4: was still learning. I haven't been in those situations. Grant 158 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 4: was around, you know, at period and during periods of 159 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 4: the season, but you know, to have him as a 160 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 4: teammate in practice every single day, to play alongside him 161 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 4: every single night, Like I would have learned so much 162 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 4: being around him, absolutely, so my growth would have progressed tremendously. 163 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 4: But not having that, I had to learn on the fly. Yeah, 164 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 4: to learn how to you know, lead a team. I 165 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 4: didn't know. I'm twenty one years old. This is my 166 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 4: first time in this situation. My best player is out. 167 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 4: It's like I wasn't expecting this, but it was a 168 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 4: challenge and I relished the challenge. 169 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 5: And I do think sometimes about how like how much 170 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 5: better you both would like Grant Hill would have gotten 171 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 5: better or no question playing with you if you because 172 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 5: you both were very unselfish, you know, even though you 173 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 5: know you were forced to take on a selfish role 174 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 5: with that team because we really didn't have any other score. 175 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 5: But your first instinct was not to go score when 176 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 5: you first got to the match, you know, and your 177 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 5: whole dynamic change about that. But Grant would have been 178 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 5: a better player too, because Grant never had the opportunity 179 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 5: to play with somebody like you. 180 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 4: No, that is, there is not a shadow of doubt 181 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 4: in my mind. We would have played for a championship, 182 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 4: no question, would for a championship here because you did 183 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 4: have great role players too, great role player if you 184 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 4: had that one two punts, yes. 185 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 5: And the team was built around both of yes, Justice, it. 186 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 4: Wasn't built around one person. It was built around both 187 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 4: of us. And man, we would have been so good, so. 188 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 3: Good and still gave so many great memories people have 189 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 3: to remember. And I think one O two oh three 190 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 3: the question wasn't for several years we just start a 191 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 3: team with Kobe or Tracy. Right, you know, we just 192 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: had we just had Kobe's birthday last week, right, so 193 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 3: it kind of was circling around again. But right, remember 194 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 3: we lived at that that was absolutely right. And Kobe 195 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 3: himself said, Tracy, you did things that he couldn't write. 196 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 3: I mean, that was that was That was the conversation. 197 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 4: That was the conversation. And you know, Covid and I 198 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 4: had a good relationship back then, you know, our earlier 199 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 4: years in our career. And at that time of that conversation, 200 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 4: you know, he was competing for championships and and I 201 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 4: was just trying to you know, make a name for myself, 202 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 4: trying to lead my team, and individually I was going 203 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 4: for that scoring title. I was going for the scoring title. 204 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 4: So I had to play for something, right. I knew 205 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 4: I couldn't compete for a championship like him, but he 206 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 4: was also competing for that scoring title. Because I don't 207 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 4: know if you guys remember, I think the year I 208 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 4: averaged thirty two during that season. Later on that season, 209 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 4: Kobe had nine straight forty point games that year. That 210 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 4: was that year, remember that. 211 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 5: I don't think he didn't do the math before. 212 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 4: And for me, that was the motivation and the end 213 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 4: game game play that I you know, that's what fewed 214 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 4: me to keep going. And coach coach Johnny Davis, he 215 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 4: always reminded me every single day, don't let him catch 216 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 4: your team, catch your team. We see him. I was like, 217 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 4: I do see him, and I see him and I 218 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 4: know he sees me. But that's that's what kept me 219 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 4: motivated from an individual prospective to keep going and and 220 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 4: and accomplish that. But I wasn't competing for no championship 221 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 4: at the time. 222 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 5: What were something you could always tell when when you know, 223 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 5: when we played the two games against the Lakers the 224 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 5: year that you would take your your game would tick 225 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 5: up a little bit in your What were the other 226 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 5: games that got you because you could definitely tell there 227 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 5: were certain opponents that like we would step on the 228 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 5: floor and you'd look and you go, Max got something 229 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 5: going a little extra. You know, it's not just Washington 230 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 5: on a Tuesday, like you know. 231 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 4: So Washington. I don't know what it was with Washington. 232 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 4: It's like every time I saw Washington, it was like 233 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 4: I had something that like a person. 234 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 5: I said, I should have picked a different team and another fifty. 235 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. But the one team in person that 236 00:11:55,840 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 4: you're speaking of was New Jersey and nobody, no, no 237 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 4: one knows this. We were playing in New Jersey. I 238 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 4: think this is when we had Horse Grant on the 239 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 4: team and I went up for a pump fake. Kenya 240 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 4: Martin jumped up and when he came down, he came 241 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 4: down with force like this on top of my head 242 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 4: and we got into a scuffle. It was a dirty move. 243 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 4: From that point on, I made it a personal thing 244 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 4: between me and Kenya Martin and he doesn't even know 245 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 4: this that it's great. When I seen Keny Martin, I 246 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 4: was about business. It was a different focus like it. 247 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 4: It was like Kobe's on the other side, like I'm 248 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 4: locked in like that because I'm gonna let you know 249 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 4: you ain't gonna get away with that, bro. 250 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go back and look at the new games 251 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 5: now that it is like I would think about. The 252 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 5: first couple of teams that I thought about were the Lakers. 253 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 5: For one, Milwaukee, you always ended up bringing something because 254 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 5: of that first playoff series we played against them. 255 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 4: Nah, I tell you it's even deeper than that. 256 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 3: I thought you Aaron Williams All this time. 257 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 4: No, no, so Milwaukee and Milwaukee was a personal one too. 258 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 4: Milwaukee when I first got here, do you know the 259 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 4: magic was like zho to ten against Milwaukee. 260 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's right Street. 261 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 4: Long losing street. So to me, I took a pawn, 262 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 4: were about to end that. And then the big Dog, 263 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 4: the playoff, the big dog thing that added more fewl 264 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 4: to it to the rivalry because every time I seen it, 265 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 4: I wanted to destroy them every single time. And I 266 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 4: think it was one season where I averaged like forty 267 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 4: four against him during this season. 268 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 3: Sure did Yeah, no, you sure did you. But what 269 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 3: is it about the greats that can get to that 270 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 3: next level that can say I be it that night 271 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 3: or I can you you have to We heard it 272 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 3: with the last dance with Michael. You had to find 273 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 3: something in you to a little extra motivation night in 274 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 3: the night out. 275 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 276 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 3: Not everybody can do that. 277 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 4: It's uh. I think it's just it's preparation. It's how 278 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 4: we train, It's how I trained, and like man, when 279 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 4: you train like I trained, going three times a day, like, 280 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 4: it's building your mental for you to be prepared for 281 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 4: anything that comes at you during the season. But more importantly, 282 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 4: It prepares you for the challenge, right, whatever that challenge is, 283 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 4: whether it's a player, whether it's defenses, whatever it is, 284 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 4: I'm prepared for that challenge because of how I work. 285 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 4: So you know, when I can attach a personal situation today, No, yeah, 286 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 4: on top of that, it's a different type of focus 287 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 4: that I could get to and I just lock in 288 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 4: and nothing else really matters, because that's what my mind 289 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 4: is really set on, is to destroy that. 290 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 5: So was there anybody else to like I never knew this. 291 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 5: I kind of like you said, you knew about the 292 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 5: losing streak to the I wouldn't have taken you for 293 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 5: somebody that looked at that or studied that or or so. Yes, 294 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 5: once were there other things. 295 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 4: When that was told to me? Yeah, I didn't tell nobody. 296 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 4: But you know when it was told to me, like 297 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 4: we were zero to ten against Milwaukee, it was it 298 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 4: gave me something to you know, destroy, like I was 299 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 4: going to change that personally for me, I was going 300 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 4: to change that. I didn't tell nobody about what I 301 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 4: had in mind or you know why this why I 302 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 4: felt this way about like I had no conversations about that. 303 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 4: That was just my internal competitive nature, competitive spirit, that 304 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 4: I wanted to destroy what was you know, uh that 305 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 4: challenge and that was in and sure enough we did that. 306 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 4: Is there anything else? Yeah? You know when I hear 307 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 4: somebody is a great defender, Bruce Boyne run our test 308 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 4: like those type of dudes, I'm. 309 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 5: That's yeah, yeah, I'm take that personal. 310 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I take I take that personal. Approve the point. 311 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 5: I just want to that I normally don't do any 312 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 5: any research for podcasts, pod squads, nothing, I do none. 313 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 5: I did one research because I knew Tracy was coming today. 314 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 4: With the Magic. 315 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 5: I'm probably the guy that told him we lost ten 316 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 5: straight to the Bucks. Probably probably probably, yeah, because I 317 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 5: know how it went that night. I told you, you 318 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 5: know your a few points short of sixty. You got 319 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 5: pissed off at me. But that's okay, all right. So 320 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 5: Tracy McGrady with the Magic in his career, okay, So 321 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 5: that's four seasons with the Magic, thirty thirty forty point 322 00:16:54,880 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 5: games in four seasons. In two oh three alone, the 323 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 5: year you averaged thirty two. Okay, you had eleven eleven 324 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 5: forty point games in one season. Since Tracy has left 325 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 5: in four the Magic franchise has had twelve forty point 326 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 5: games by sixtyffers. So you had eleven you had in season, 327 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 5: you had eleven in the one season in two o three, 328 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 5: and since you left in four, the Magic as a 329 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 5: whole have had twelve. And that just like when you're 330 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 5: with us and you're doing it every night. And also like, 331 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm pretty I was pretty young, right, and 332 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 5: I'm just yes, like you're numb to the fact that well, 333 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 5: like we're rolling out and I know Tracy's going to 334 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 5: score thirty five, Like it just didn't. It didn't register. 335 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 5: How amazing. Like the numbers and they're stupid numbers too, 336 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 5: they're like video game numbers. 337 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 4: Like you know, one thing I noticed about about you 338 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 4: and Glassy knew my game. You knew when I when 339 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 4: I was coming down to the court. You knew when 340 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 4: I was about to pull out Dan. 341 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, And I knew when it was going in yes, yes, 342 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 5: for sure. 343 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, especially end of games and certain situations. You 344 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 3: knew when you had the ball in your hands on those. 345 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 5: Nights that you had it going give me one more 346 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 5: because I but real quick to it. 347 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 3: But there were times when you might not have driven 348 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 3: to the arena being mad at Kenyan Martin right that 349 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 3: that wasn't going to happen every game but for me. 350 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 3: And this is when, because I was around the court 351 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 3: and I was doing the sidelines. Then there were moments 352 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 3: within the game. Okay, guys, watch it. Somebody just said 353 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 3: something to Tracy. Okay, somebody gave him an elbow, somebody. 354 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 3: There were moments within the game that all of a sudden, 355 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 3: you would flip a switch. 356 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 4: That happened one night. I remember specifically. We were playing 357 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 4: Seattle and I was going off. Seattle was tough. You know, 358 00:18:55,920 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 4: you had real and I think it was Richardo Lewis 359 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 4: was at that time, so I think it was. 360 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 3: But anyways, in the camera, but Eli and Willcox were 361 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 3: close lining people every time he came. 362 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 4: From Verdanovich, I think that's anyways, it was Desmond Mason, Desmond, 363 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 4: the kid that Mason could jump. I was given him 364 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 4: a business. He started yapping and trying to get physical, 365 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 4: and he elbowed me one time. This is what you 366 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 4: were speaking of. He elbowed me one time when I 367 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 4: went up for a rebound. He kind of gave me 368 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 4: a cheap shot. Oh my goodness. 369 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 3: Now we got to look up this game. 370 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 4: What did you do to them? Man, I think I 371 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 4: finished with forty that night at home. And I remember 372 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 4: one play. It was on in front of their bench, 373 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 4: but on the opposite wing, and it was just we 374 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 4: just got into it and I had the ball and 375 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 4: I was sizing him up. I didn't even take a dribble, 376 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 4: just sizing him up in triple threat, and I shot 377 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 4: the ball and went in and I turned around to 378 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,479 Speaker 4: the crowd and I was talking crazy to the crowd, 379 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 4: like it just wrapped me up and took me to 380 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 4: a whole another level that that was just that was 381 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 4: in it. 382 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 5: Did anybody ever tell you like, but you kind of 383 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 5: had this demeanor on the court. I don't want to 384 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 5: like like I call it like sleepy, like right like 385 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 5: you were like because like everything would come so easy 386 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 5: to you. Did anybody ever have to tell you to like, 387 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 5: did anybody have a conversation with you, like listen, like 388 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 5: you need to change that? Because I know we've had 389 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 5: some other players where they've been told like, all right, 390 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 5: like you do this too much? Do they like if 391 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 5: you if you switch this? But that wasn't you. But 392 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 5: you still were well, you still had that focus, even 393 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 5: though maybe outwardly it didn't look like Yeah. 394 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 4: At times it was said that I looked like I 395 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 4: wasn't trying. But if you're in front of me, if 396 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 4: you guarding me, it was a different story. Like I 397 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 4: was probably one of the quickest players out there. 398 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 5: Right well, if you're averaging damn thirty, you have to play. 399 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 5: It doesn't It doesn't just happen. 400 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 4: It looks like he's not trying. No, it's because I've 401 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 4: bust my ass in the off season. I go extremely hard, 402 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 4: so whin them in the games, the games are easy 403 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 4: to me. I don't have to go that speed because 404 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 4: everything has slowed down for me right now. I wasn't 405 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 4: always like that. Like in Toronto, I had to play hard. 406 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 4: I was playing hard because I didn't know the game, 407 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 4: you know, I was trying to figure it out, and 408 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 4: it was a different type of role. But once I 409 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 4: got to the point where okay, I was in a 410 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 4: different role and I'm working a certain way on my 411 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 4: individual skills, and the game has slowed down for me. 412 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 4: I don't have to go full speed, but I am 413 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 4: moving fast. 414 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 5: When did this step for you, though? When when did 415 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 5: that flip for you? 416 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 4: My second year here? I was good my first year. 417 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 4: I mean I think I averaged like twenty six or 418 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 4: twenty seven first year or something like that, which was crazy. 419 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 3: But it wasn't. 420 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 4: But things really slowed down my second year. Third year here, 421 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 4: I felt like I was the best on a planet 422 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 4: right right, that that t mac was a it was 423 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 4: a whole nother beast, just like I was seeing things. 424 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 4: I felt, my body I got it was like the 425 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 4: perfect year of training and just everything was just it 426 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 4: was it clicked. It's like I'm here now, right, and 427 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 4: it was just the house was in order. 428 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 3: You get a lot of credit for those four years, 429 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 3: and you should, But how much credit in the back 430 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 3: of your mind do you give to the Darryls the 431 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 3: Pat Garrity's, Because those guys gave you everything they had. 432 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 3: They gave everything for the city, for the team, and 433 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 3: they tried to keep anything you needed. They to the 434 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 3: best of their ability, they gave it. 435 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 4: That's really one of the reasons why I came here. 436 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 4: You know. I think the year before I got here, 437 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 4: the slogan for the Magic was like heart and hustle, yes, right, 438 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 4: and they personified that every single night. That like that 439 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 4: was a fun team to watch, although you had to 440 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 4: trade half of the team Unfortunately five guys all of 441 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 4: that team, Ben Wallace, cor and those guys like man, 442 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 4: they all gone. It would have been nice to keep 443 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 4: some of those guys, right. 444 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 5: We had to pay this guy. 445 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 4: But I look at I gotta get my money, give 446 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 4: me my but Pat Garty, Doleac, Andrew de Clerk, d A. 447 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 4: Like that was such a fun group, you know what 448 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 4: I mean, Like such a fun competitive group to be around. 449 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 4: We wasn't the most talented team. But when you talk 450 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 4: about getting everything out of your players and them giving 451 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 4: you everything, that's what they did. That's what did it. 452 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 4: Because if you look at our team, I averaged twenty 453 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 4: seven ports. I was pretty damn good. I was, but 454 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 4: we wasn't the most talented team out there. Man. It's like, 455 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 4: and even Doc told me one time, it's like you 456 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 4: just don't even understand. He's like, I have I go 457 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 4: out to dinner and I'll be having people come to 458 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 4: me all the time asking how are you doing it? Doc? 459 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 3: Do you know you've got teams with three superstars. You've 460 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 3: got these mega teams that don't make the playoffs, and 461 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 3: I think that's two postseason appearances with really you could 462 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 3: and again, great role players but everybody was keying in 463 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 3: on him and just still be able to get to 464 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 3: the playoffs I think was remarkable. 465 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, well it was three out of four years, that's right. 466 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 4: We have Charlotte, Charlotte, Milwaukee, and Detroit. 467 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 3: That's right, three four years yea, where most people wouldn't 468 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 3: have been able to even do that. So I always 469 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 3: thought the second round stuff was bogus anyway, most people 470 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 3: couldn't have even made it, but you made it, and 471 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 3: I thought that was read. 472 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 4: You think about this as great as Steph Curry is right, 473 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 4: they had won a championship. I think he has like 474 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 4: a championship under his belt, maybe two. Draymond Green or 475 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 4: Klay Thompson. One of those guys missed the whole season. 476 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 4: I think it was Klay Thompson. They didn't make the playoffs. 477 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 4: They didn't make the playoffs. Draymond was there, Andrew Wiggins 478 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,479 Speaker 4: was there. This is Steph Curry were talking about. They 479 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 4: didn't make the playoff. It's hard when one of your 480 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 4: guys is out and you got to compete with these 481 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 4: guys that are built up for, you know, to win 482 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 4: and have their their best players playing. Man. It's listen, man, 483 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 4: this is the NBA. Man, this this is tough. We 484 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 4: need all of your troops out there, especially your best players. 485 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 4: So again, I was the second best player on my team. 486 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 4: We missed Grant for four years. 487 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 3: And you know what's that that Piston series that was 488 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 3: the first year they went back to seven best of seven. 489 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 3: Had it been the whole history of the NBA up 490 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 3: to that, you'd already been in the second row. It 491 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 3: was great. That was the very first year that they switched. 492 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 4: That was even that team, like that team won a 493 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 4: championship the next year exactly, they won a freaking championship 494 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 4: the next year. Man, they went what six straight years 495 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 4: Eastern Conference champions six? We had them on the ropes you. 496 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,479 Speaker 3: Did, now, I know. It was some great basketball, some 497 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 3: great times that was. 498 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 4: That was a great time. 499 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 3: And you played against Michael, Kobe and Lebron Yeah right, 500 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 3: I mean something you talk about something to tell your kids? 501 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 3: Do you have Do you relive any of this with them? 502 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 3: What you do? Yeah? 503 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 4: All the time, all the time, man, just just talking 504 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 4: about you know, just how competitive those games are and 505 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 4: the moments, you know what I mean. And it's when 506 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 4: you when you have kids that love the game and 507 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 4: play the game and then they can see it through 508 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 4: your lens and you give them those experience in those moments. 509 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 4: You know, that's the motivation for them. Right. And my 510 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 4: boys when they when I sit down and tell them 511 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 4: about some of those stories, like you can see it 512 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 4: in their their face that. 513 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 3: How do you do it? Do you make a drink? 514 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 3: Put on it? 515 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 4: Like different lights? 516 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,479 Speaker 5: Like how do how do you take the jacket off 517 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 5: the wall and put it on? Before you tell them? 518 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 3: What's what's the mood? 519 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 4: It's like around dinner time. You know, it's it's around 520 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 4: dinner time because you know my kids, the kids are 521 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 4: doing their own thing and with sports, so when we 522 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,719 Speaker 4: have dinner, it's a time to everybody come together, you 523 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 4: know from a long days of work and we just 524 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 4: sit down and and and catch up and reminisce and 525 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 4: have those discussions and it's just it's it's fun. 526 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 5: You Like, my kids look at me like you don't 527 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 5: know what you're talking about. That that's how my kids 528 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 5: look at me. Listen, maybe I'm parenting wrong. 529 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,719 Speaker 4: Is what you're what you're getting at, No, Listen. I 530 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 4: had to have some conversations with some of my my peers, 531 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 4: like yo, when you your kids don't want you to train, like, 532 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 4: they don't listen to you when you tell them something on. 533 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 5: The basketball A lot better now, Okay. 534 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 4: It took forever for my son to allow me to 535 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 4: train him without him fussing. 536 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 3: Isn't that something? 537 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 4: Man? You hear that a lot analyzed? You know. It's 538 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 4: just they can't separate it, Dad, hall of fame. They 539 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 4: don't care about hall of fame. You're my dad, You're 540 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 4: my dad. And it's just some kids are like that. 541 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 3: And your oldest is playing now, does he does he 542 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 3: enjoy it? Does he does he want to keep playing? 543 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 4: He enjoys it, you know. He he's always, since two 544 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 4: three years old, had a basketball in his hand. Even 545 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 4: now he has this little mini hoop in his in 546 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,239 Speaker 4: his room. And I'll be in the kitchen. I can 547 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 4: hear him shooting in his in his room and on 548 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 4: his little mini hoop so much so that he took 549 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 4: it to his boarding school at IMG. Like. He loves 550 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 4: the game, you know, And I don't know what the 551 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 4: silling is for him, but as long as he loves 552 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 4: the game and you know, work extremely hard to be 553 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 4: the best version of him, and wherever that takes him, 554 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 4: I'm happy with it. 555 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 5: So this is your first time in the in the 556 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 5: new Advent Health Training Center. What are your thoughts? I mean, 557 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 5: I know you probably haven't seen the whole building yet, but. 558 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 4: So why are you asking me that question? Man? 559 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 5: Because I would think you because I would think you 560 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 5: walk inside and you just can kind of get a 561 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 5: glimpse of of what this place is. 562 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 4: Well, I tell you it's not r d V. 563 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 5: No, it's not. 564 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 4: Stas art at the time I missed d I missed 565 00:29:55,240 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 4: r DV. Boy, I have some great practices up. No, 566 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 4: this is this is I haven't seen everything, but this 567 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 4: is pretty dope. You know. It feels comfortable, you know, 568 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 4: and it's right in the heart of downtown. You don't 569 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 4: have to drive way out there too. Was that out 570 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 4: of mind we were at Yeah, Maitland. It's cool. Practice 571 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 4: courts is beautiful. I love the views from coaches office. 572 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 4: This is this is an upgrade heading in the right direction. Baby, 573 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 4: there you go. 574 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 3: Do you watch much of this team? What can you 575 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 3: tell us about Paolo Franz. There's an excitement brewing here 576 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 3: in central Florida about these two guys in the team 577 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 3: in general. 578 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, it should be because Polo is is a super 579 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 4: talent that can be a perennial All Star in this league, 580 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 4: great size. I think the one thing with him is 581 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 4: he wants it, you know, And I think you know, 582 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 4: when you have a guy that really wants it and 583 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 4: puts in that world can have a different type, have 584 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 4: a focus that will allow him to gradually progress as 585 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 4: a basketball player, that's what you want. And then you 586 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 4: know the support that he has around here, you know, 587 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 4: coach Moe and and and the coaching staff and allowing 588 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 4: these guys to be who they are as basketball players, 589 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 4: allowing Markel to come into his own Like people forget 590 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 4: that kid was the number one draft pick for a reason. 591 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 4: He could freaking play right. So I love the team. 592 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 4: I love the direction that they're heading. I felt like 593 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 4: they turned the corner last year was something different about them. 594 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 4: I love how they finished the season and hopefully that 595 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 4: can translate into the beginning of this season. But we 596 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,239 Speaker 4: were in the Wizardes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was. It was. 597 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 4: It was. It was some rough it was some rough goings. 598 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 4: But I think this is a team that could be 599 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 4: on the verge of, you know, making the playoffs this year. 600 00:31:55,640 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 4: And I I think they could this year Polo, he's 601 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 4: I mean, rookie year average, what twenty points? I think 602 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 4: that should go up about another two or three points 603 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 4: this year. The younger guys gonna be good. I hope 604 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 4: Isaac is healthy and ready to man. If he's healthy, 605 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 4: it can stay healthy. In Franz and Markel and Anthony Man, 606 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 4: they got some good pieces. They got some really. 607 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,239 Speaker 3: Big Markel fans. Why and I know you have I 608 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 3: know you have an infinity for his game. What is 609 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 3: it about him can help? 610 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 4: Well? First, the story, Yeah, absolutely, you know what I mean, 611 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 4: the story along because he was with me before he 612 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 4: got drafted. We did a piece together at my house. 613 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 4: I don't think if you guys don't know that he 614 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 4: was at my house. 615 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll take when it comes out. 616 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 4: No, No, this was like before he got drafted, Before 617 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 4: he got draft, we did a piece at my house, 618 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 4: and I just I noticed how calm confident he was 619 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 4: as a basketball player, Like he had all of you know, 620 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 4: these goals set for himself as a rookie and none 621 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 4: of that happened for him. And then he went through, 622 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 4: you know, just a bad period in his career and 623 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 4: to get back to a level of confidence where he 624 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 4: can actually help a franchise. Is to me just a 625 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 4: testament of number one that this kid he really wants it. 626 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 4: He has a great supporting cast around it, because it's 627 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 4: hard to have that level of a confidence and be 628 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 4: on top of your game, to lose that, yep, and 629 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 4: then to get that back up that doesn't really that 630 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 4: doesn't happen for a lot of guys. That is tough. 631 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 4: So it's a testament that this kid is mentally strong 632 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 4: and prepared for whatever. So I'm happy for him and hopefully, 633 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 4: you know, he does well this year, which I feel 634 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 4: he will. 635 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I agree, I think that's well said. Who 636 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 3: do you enjoy watching in the league? Are there guys 637 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 3: that you watch? Sure anybody say, man, I wish I 638 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 3: could have had a go against him, or. 639 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:11,479 Speaker 4: I mean it's not any you know, specific players. There's 640 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 4: a lot of good guy, good players out there. I'm 641 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 4: gonna tell you, I love I love Joker, right, I 642 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 4: love Joker. I think Joker is just like the perfect 643 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 4: basketball player. Although he can't jump right, he slows my glasses, 644 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 4: but he's so freaking good man, He's so good. He's 645 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 4: such a cerebral basketball player, makes the right place unbelievable passer. 646 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 4: He is one of those guys like, Okay, what is 647 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 4: the game giving me tonight? Oh? You need me to 648 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 4: score forty? All right, I'm gonna go get you forty. 649 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 4: You need me to score forty and tennis is okay, 650 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 4: I gotta get forty and I gotta get ten or 651 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 4: I just you know, I don't need to score forty tonight. 652 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 4: Jamal Murray has it going, Porter has it going. Just 653 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 4: settle for like fifteen assists and have like twenty points. 654 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:08,959 Speaker 4: He is amazing. Man, He's amazing. I love everybody better 655 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 4: for sure. My mind goes to, how is that guy 656 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 4: the forty first pick? How does forty picks go before 657 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,919 Speaker 4: that guy gets just couldn't really tell what he could 658 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 4: do over it. I mean, there are some bad there 659 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 4: are some bad you know, evaluating going on in this league. 660 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 4: I'm just I'm be honest with you. I mean, it's 661 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 4: been over the years, top two, top three four picks 662 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 4: of the NBA and these guys two years and you 663 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 4: don't even see them no more. 664 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 3: Right, it can be. It can be frustrating. So yeah, 665 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 3: well tell us about the Ones Ones Basketball League. 666 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 4: So we want we got a. 667 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 3: Schedule coming out. Do we know what the plan is 668 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 3: moving forward? In the success last year? That was a 669 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 3: lot of fun to watch. 670 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 4: It was a lot of fun, and I'm happy for 671 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 4: a lot of the guys, man, because this is a 672 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 4: platform that is needed. You know, everybody can't play in 673 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 4: the NBA. Only have four hundred and fifty players in 674 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 4: our league. But you know, this is a platform to 675 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 4: create stars that love the game of basketball, and its 676 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 4: just a different form of basketball. It's one on one 677 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 4: when you look at UFC, right, UFC first started off 678 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 4: as a gimmick sport, but now it's it's real, it's raw, 679 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:28,240 Speaker 4: it's authentic, and it's a platform that has created stars. 680 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 4: But if you look at where these guys come from, 681 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 4: we don't know that background, we don't know you know, 682 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 4: what college they went to, but they were somebody. It 683 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 4: was just a platform that now we know who they are. Right, 684 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 4: they're created these stars. Why can't OBL be the UFC 685 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 4: of basketball. It's the same exact thing. These names. These 686 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 4: guys played college basketball. These guys love the game, they 687 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 4: have passion for it, they have a unique skill set 688 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 4: and I just have created a platform to give them 689 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 4: the opportunity to show everybody who they are. They don't 690 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 4: know them, but they're gonna know these guys. And I 691 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 4: think the storytelling and it is to me is one 692 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 4: of the is the biggest things. So they have extremely 693 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,240 Speaker 4: compelling stories that we should learn and know about. 694 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 3: And what can you tell everybody about how they can 695 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 3: follow you? 696 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 4: And yeah, so ob yeah, I mean, we have all 697 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,280 Speaker 4: our social channels. Obl's one basketball league. We just dropped 698 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 4: our documentary on Showtime. It's on Paramount Plus. It's a 699 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 4: four part series. It gives you more information about our 700 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 4: league and what we were able to accomplish last year. 701 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 4: So it's like, you know, you're American Idol. We go 702 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 4: to these different cities, right, and we start out I 703 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 4: vet every player that place. So Saturday, we start out 704 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 4: with thirty two players, right, and then all of these 705 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 4: guys are playing seven games. We're gonna take the best 706 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 4: records from eight players. Right. The top eight players from 707 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 4: that Saturday is gonna move and play for our showcase Sunday, 708 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 4: single elimination and in that region, whoever the top guy is, 709 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 4: we give him ten thousand. He will win ten thousand dollars. 710 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 4: The top three guys would get the automatic invite to 711 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 4: our championship, which we had in Vegas. So we do 712 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 4: that in each city, right, So we take those those 713 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 4: top three guys. We had the championship in Vegas, and 714 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 4: our ultimate prize is two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. 715 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 3: And life changing for whoever comes out of it. 716 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 4: No, this is a great story. So the guy that 717 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 4: wanted is from Houston. He flew when we had Houston 718 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 4: was our first region. He flew in from Romania. Friday night, 719 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 4: registered Saturday morning, played Saturday seven games, didn't lose, played Sunday, 720 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 4: won the whole thing, didn't lose, went to Vegas obviously, 721 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 4: won the whole thing, won two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. 722 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 4: So I was having a conversation with him and we 723 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 4: were talking. He was like, yeah, man, I just finally 724 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 4: moved out of mind. He's like, because he was just 725 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 4: so appreciated, like Mac Man, thank you bro. He's like, 726 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 4: I've been staying with my parents all this time. I 727 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 4: come back from Romania and I just go and stay 728 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 4: with my parents because you know, I'm Overseas more time 729 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,959 Speaker 4: than I am home. He's like, man, I just bought 730 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 4: my first place. Man. He was like I appreciate you. 731 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 4: He's like I was coming home to he named the neighborhood. 732 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 4: I said, Bro, that's right across the street from me. 733 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,479 Speaker 4: This whole time, this dude grew up and stayed right 734 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 4: across the street from where I live. Right now, you 735 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,800 Speaker 4: didn't I didn't know that. I didn't know that. I 736 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 4: didn't know that, man. And yeah, so he moved out, 737 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 4: he got a G League invite, and now he's playing overseas. 738 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 5: Amazing, that's amazing. I just wouldn't watch that at All 739 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 5: Star weekend. A little one on one absolutely. 740 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 4: So of course if I'm starting the Basketball League, I 741 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 4: want to go in and I want to let the 742 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 4: NBA know what I'm doing. So I had conversations with 743 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 4: them and I'm trying to push that for the weekend. 744 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 5: How good would that be? 745 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 3: Well, I think, and I think it takes it another level. 746 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 3: And I think you get some of these guys in 747 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 3: the league. Now you get big money behind whoever going 748 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:11,399 Speaker 3: one on one. 749 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,439 Speaker 4: Well, here's the deal. They used to do that, right, 750 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 4: But here, here's here's my thing though here and this 751 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 4: gets be a great marketing tool for the NBA. So 752 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 4: no one really cares about other than the players on 753 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 4: the team and an organization. But as far as fans, 754 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 4: you don't really care about the eleventh and twelfth man, 755 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 4: Like you don't even know who these guys are, right 756 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 4: A lot of times a lot of times, a lot 757 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 4: of times you just don't know who these guys are. 758 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 4: But when you look at the league, we have thirty teams. 759 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,240 Speaker 4: They're not thirty superstars in our league. They're not stars 760 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 4: thirty superstars to feel each team. And then you're talking 761 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 4: about adding two more teams the Vegas, right, So you're 762 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 4: adding two more teams a way to create stars or 763 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 4: at least half fans know about your eleventh and twelfth guys. 764 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 4: Do the one on one tournament. These guys will get 765 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 4: in that tournament and after it, they will get good 766 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:15,280 Speaker 4: after it, and fans will now attach themselves to these guys. 767 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 4: That's a part of this All Star weekend. They'll know 768 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 4: who these guys are and you could set marketing these 769 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 4: guys like that's that's a really good way for you, know, 770 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,800 Speaker 4: you to market your guys that are eleventh and twelfth 771 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 4: and on an NBA love that. 772 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,800 Speaker 3: I think that's a great idea, great potential for sure. 773 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 3: Is that why you can't do TV. You don't have time. 774 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 3: How are you not doing television somewhere for something I don't. 775 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 4: I don't have time. 776 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 3: You don't any interests, no interest in no time. 777 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 4: You did it already I have. You know, maybe if 778 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 4: I moved to Florida, come down here and do something 779 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 4: with you guys. 780 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 3: Yes, door's always open. 781 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 5: But sign you right now. 782 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 3: Your cousin did it last year, so Vince, you know 783 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 3: you only get a few more years and you're gonna 784 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 3: have another Hall of Famer in the family. 785 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't. I'm excited for. 786 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 3: Him, right, I mean that's great, good, good good. Well, Hey, 787 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 3: we could do this all day. But thank you so 788 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 3: much for taking time. 789 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 5: Aren't things better when Tracy's here? Yes, like things are 790 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 5: just better when Tracy's People in the. 791 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 3: Building that didn't still work. 792 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 5: By the way, all those people have be gone tomorrow. 793 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 5: I won't I won't see them again for another three stories. 794 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 3: All right, Tracy, we appreciate it. That'll do it for 795 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,240 Speaker 3: this edition of Magic Pod Squad.