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Speaker 2: And you know you talk about where should we start.

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Speaker 2: Let let's take a big peek of what's going on

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Speaker 2: right now. There was Army Navy yesterday. I'm sure you watched.

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Speaker 2: It was, you know, an exciting game, but a sloppy game. Nevertheless,

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Speaker 2: since seventeen sixteen Navy wins, I thought Navy was the

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Speaker 2: better team going in. You got the Heisman Trophy and

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Speaker 2: then you got the Notre Dame snub not going to

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Speaker 2: the college football players. But the big story I think

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Speaker 2: was off the field. That has to be Michigan and

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Speaker 2: their football coach Sharon Moore and the sex scandal. And

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Speaker 2: before we even get into that, Bucket Brooks, before we

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Speaker 2: even get into that, I want to tell you how

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Speaker 2: much more I either respect you on going up another

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Speaker 2: level because right now I know Jacksonville is hosting the Jets.

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Speaker 2: Today's probably something like seventy eight eighty degrees in Jacksonville, Florida. Today,

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Speaker 2: Am I correct?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, okay.

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Speaker 2: I am waiting for the kickoff for the Cincinnati Bengals

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Speaker 2: later today playing Baltimore. As we speak, it's five degrees

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Speaker 2: with six inches of snow in Cincinnati, and they say kickoff,

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be eleven. I would never tell I don't

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Speaker 2: care how much you pay me, I would never ever

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Speaker 2: go out there and play football eleven degrease. Maybe I'm nuts,

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Speaker 2: maybe I'm a whiss, I don't know, but that's why

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Speaker 2: I respect you. How cold was it when you played

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Speaker 2: in your coldest game? I know you played for Green Bay?

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Speaker 2: How bad was that?

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Speaker 3: Two games?

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Speaker 4: Actually, I would tell you the coldest game that I

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Speaker 4: versus the doing the Patriots up there. And the thing

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Speaker 4: and do those things. But it's the decisions that you

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Speaker 4: make on the sideline. Do I get them the hot

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Speaker 4: seat do I not? Because the contrast between going from

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Speaker 4: It's man, it's it's a mentally challenging thing to deal

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Speaker 4: not for everybody. And it will affect the way that

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Speaker 3: It has an impact on how you play, how will

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Speaker 2: There's no data. I look at the game like that

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Speaker 2: gonna be probably single digits in Pittsburgh tomorrow night. That's

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Speaker 2: got to affect the Dolphins. And I don't care how

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Speaker 2: you practice. Maybe turn the air conditioners on. I don't

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Speaker 2: You can't practice for that. I think you're better of

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Speaker 2: because people are used to that. But going from heat

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't because with the cold weather you cannot

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Speaker 4: So there's a lot of things that you can you

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Speaker 3: Like so if it's a rain game, you can have the.

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Speaker 3: But the weather, Nah, there's nothing you can do. You

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Speaker 4: You can put like the air conditional, but you still

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Speaker 4: can't make it feel exactly like it's will feel when

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Speaker 2: No doubt about that, and I'm glad I'm not doing it.

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that. I'll be watching that game

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Speaker 2: in the couch today. However, let's talk about the story

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Speaker 2: I guess of the last couple of days has to

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Speaker 2: be Michigan. What an embarrassment, you know, to the program

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Speaker 2: former Michigan head coach football coach, that is Charon Moore

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Speaker 2: That's amazing to me. So he was fired on Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: And I gotta believe this. With these big buyouts right

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Speaker 2: now in college football, the fact that he lost to

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Speaker 2: record at Michigan, they expect better. They're looking to get

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Speaker 4: I mean, like all of that could be true in once,

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Speaker 4: I would say his misconduct certainly did reflect it poorly

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Speaker 4: When you have that kind of job, you cannot have

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Speaker 3: There was also a.

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Speaker 4: Faction in the Michigan fan base that wasn't pleased with

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Speaker 4: when he got the job. His record eighteen and eight,

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Speaker 4: him and Jesse Mentor and all those guys had penalties

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Speaker 4: So overall, the entire football program was a bit of

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Speaker 4: a mess. It's going to hurt them Yeah, they'll be

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Speaker 4: not a good look. It's not a good look for

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Speaker 4: the university, for the athletic program, for the football program,

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Speaker 4: or for Sharon Moore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm reading a story that was in the New

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Speaker 2: This is a source said that it in that rumors

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Speaker 2: of Moore's alleged misconduct with the staffer have been floating

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Speaker 2: high level Michigan booster claimed in sham Beckler Hall, which

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Speaker 2: earlier this month. Everybody in the program has known this

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Speaker 2: what's my question. Obviously he had an inappropriate relationship with

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Speaker 2: the staffer. I want to And the alleged staffer's name

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Speaker 2: was Paide Shiver. That's what they say. That's why seemed printed.

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Speaker 2: So if he had an inappropriate relationship. Relationships usually are

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Speaker 2: with two people. So why isn't she fired? Why isn't

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Speaker 2: paid sh shiver allegedly, Well, she's the one I'm reading.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, why isn't she fired because she had the

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I think all these things happen in the process, and

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Speaker 4: I think at the end of the day, everyone who

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Speaker 4: and I would say that Michigan probably bungled the process

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Speaker 4: in terms of like how you do it from an

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Hey, look, I don't care who you are. I don't

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Speaker 2: nearly despised Michigan. You got to feel sorry for the school,

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Speaker 2: the program, and shron Moore. I mean, obviously he made

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Speaker 2: a mistake, a tremendous mistake. His career is probably down

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Speaker 2: because he said he wanted to commit suicide in front

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Speaker 2: So you know, it's just a bad day for college football.

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Speaker 2: It's funny because it kind of surfaced and it took

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Speaker 2: away all the good things that were happening this week

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Speaker 2: in the game of football. There's no doubt about that. Now,

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Speaker 2: let's go one step further. Let's talk about college football.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about not Your Dame. Stop the crying for

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame. All right, and you hit it on the

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Speaker 2: head last week prior to the college football rankings, which

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Speaker 2: was Sunday after our show, they lost to Miami. During

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Speaker 2: the season, this schedule was weak, to say the least. Okay,

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Speaker 2: they're not in the conference, no bowl game. Right now,

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Speaker 2: they're not going to go to a bowl game, and

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Speaker 2: I think that's weak. They think they're elitists right now,

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Speaker 2: Who in the hell do they think they are. They're

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Speaker 2: saying they're not gonna play in a bowl game. I

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Speaker 2: get it, both games aren't that important right now, they're

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Speaker 2: not the popular players are afraid to get injured for

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Speaker 2: in the pros. But still, in all I just think

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Speaker 2: it was weak that basically they just said, ah, you

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Speaker 4: I would say that there are a couple of things

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Speaker 4: happen on a major scale, not just Notre Dame. But

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Speaker 4: I think Notre Dame is kind of like the tipping

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Speaker 4: point for what's going to happen going forward. Notre Dame's players,

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Speaker 4: once they found out that they weren't going to play

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Speaker 3: That amounts to nothing.

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Speaker 4: So all of those players that have helped him make

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Speaker 3: They're just playing. I mean, they just love the competition.

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Speaker 4: Look they had multiple fumbles that didn't go there where.

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Speaker 2: All right, where was he all season long? Well, we'll

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Speaker 2: tell you in just about a minute. He's Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: we have asked Bucky coming up at about ten minutes,

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Speaker 2: but with your permission, this Heisman trophy. Last night with

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Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoz are winning it. We got to hear part

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Speaker 2: of the speech because he was so it was wonderful.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear Fernando. Go ahead, Fernando. It's a

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Speaker 2: little bit.

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Speaker 7: Now, this holding this bad boy representing Indiana University still

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Speaker 7: doesn't feel real. If you told me as a kid

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Speaker 7: in Miami that I'd be here on stage holding this

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Speaker 7: prestigious trophy, I probably would have laughed, cried like I'm

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Speaker 7: doing now or both, because this moment, it's an honor.

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Speaker 3: It's bigger than me.

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Speaker 7: It's a product of a family, team, community, and a

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Speaker 7: whole lot of people who believed in me long before

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Speaker 7: anybody knew my name. To the Heisman, trust, voters, legends

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Speaker 7: standing behind me, and all who cherishes award and what

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Speaker 7: it stands for. It's a privilege to join this fraternity.

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Speaker 7: You have my deepest respect. I promise to carry the

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Speaker 7: Heisman name with humility, gratitude, and with responsibility.

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Speaker 2: How do you like that? I mean, and he did

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Speaker 2: say that he's going to keep the trophy in Bloomington

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Speaker 2: at least for a year, because it wasn't his trophies.

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Speaker 2: For everybody's, the schools, his teammates, coaches. I thought that

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Speaker 2: was wonderful. I mean, it's just id the speech. I

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Speaker 2: just was taken back by it. I just couldn't believe it,

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Speaker 2: could not. But now let's talk some business here. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill's nine and four at the New England Patriots

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Speaker 2: today eleven and two, one o'clock kickoff Eastern time, and

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Speaker 2: now we're gonna find out Bucket Brooks early and truly

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Speaker 2: if the Patriots are for real, take a good hard look,

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Speaker 2: because they've only beaten three teams with the winning record.

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Speaker 2: It's not their fault, it's a schedule, but that's the facts.

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Speaker 2: The facts of the matter are, they've beaten three teams

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Speaker 2: with the winning record. Now they're playing somebody pretty good.

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Speaker 2: And back in Week five they played the Bills. That

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Speaker 2: Bills beat the Patriots twenty three to twenty and by

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Speaker 2: the way, in that game, they turned the ball over

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Speaker 2: three times. So obviously I think the Bills are a

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Speaker 2: better team. But again you're talking about whether factor that

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Speaker 2: could be a big factor in New England today. What's

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Speaker 2: your take on this game? On the Patriots for real?

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Speaker 2: Because again only three three teams are winning records are

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Speaker 2: on their schedule.

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Speaker 3: I think the Patriots are for real. I think the

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Speaker 3: quarterback is good and right.

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Speaker 4: Greb does a great job of understanding how to navigate games,

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Speaker 4: games and manage games to put his team in a

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Speaker 4: position to win. So this will be an interesting one

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Speaker 4: to watch to watch play out. But look, I think

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Speaker 4: this is the one that legitimizes them as a contender

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Speaker 4: because to me, they're the better team. They're more talented team,

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Speaker 4: and I think they show it today.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about this. In the last five games,

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Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills have had twelve turnos. You can't play

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Speaker 2: that way. Championship teams cannot play that way, Okay. Stefan

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Speaker 2: Diggs the Patriots wide receiver. He had ten catches in

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Speaker 2: Week five against the Bills for one hundred and forty

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Speaker 2: six yards. Again, I took about the weather, and I

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Speaker 2: think the weather factor will help Buffalo's running game. Maybe

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Speaker 2: I'm crazy, I think it will because I think it's

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Speaker 2: hard to pass when you have wins and snow so

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Speaker 2: I think the run game and basically Buffalo has their

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, they have the running game, but like really,

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Speaker 4: when it comes to Buffalo, Buffalo's a one man show.

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Speaker 3: It is the Josh Allen experience.

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Speaker 4: And as much as they try to kind of minimize

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Speaker 4: that not make it so much about number seventeen, the

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Speaker 4: only way that they're able to get these things done

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Speaker 4: against top teams is he has to go into the

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Speaker 4: phone booth and come out with the cape and show

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Speaker 4: all the all the super heroic things that he can do.

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Speaker 4: And that's that's what's gonna have to take place in

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Speaker 4: this game. They have a good player in James Cook,

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Speaker 4: but outside of that, if I mean a blue chip

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Speaker 4: player in James Cook, but outside of that, they don't

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Speaker 4: have a lot of blue chip guys, a lot of stars.

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Speaker 4: And so this is a team that has to do

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Speaker 4: it collectively unless Josh Allen does it.

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Speaker 3: As, you know, a one man show. To me, I

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Speaker 3: think he has to do it as a one man show.

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Speaker 3: The problem is you have a defense.

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Speaker 4: That man they feast on like bad decisions and they

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Speaker 4: get around the ball and they do a good job

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Speaker 4: of running to the ball and doing all these things.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a tough It's gonna be a tough thing.

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Speaker 3: But if anybody can do it, Josh Allen can do

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Speaker 3: it because he's done it so many times for the

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Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to talk a little bit about the

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Speaker 2: run game, which obviously everybody wants to put in the backseat.

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Speaker 2: But really and truly, especially in the weather gets cold

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Speaker 2: like this, you really need a running game. I mean, obviously,

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Speaker 2: teams that win got to have a run game, all right.

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Speaker 2: Two teams that have been somewhat successful this year obviously

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Speaker 2: Buffalo and they got James Cook. But I'm talking about

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Speaker 2: Indiana the Colts, the Indianapolis Colts. They got Jonathan Taylor.

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Speaker 2: Compared to me, the styles they're running styles between those

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Speaker 2: two running backs, are they similar? Who's better? Why are

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Speaker 2: they better? What makes them so good? And why they

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Speaker 2: lead their offense on each team? Jonathan Taylor and James Cook?

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Speaker 2: James Cook the third excuse me, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: I would say the difference is Jonathan Taylor is a

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Speaker 4: guy who has everything like big, fast, physical, great vision,

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Speaker 4: can cut back, you know, it can take a heavy

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Speaker 4: workload and just gets better and better with more carries.

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Speaker 3: And James Cook. James Cook is crafty.

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Speaker 4: He's terrific in and out of the backfield as a

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Speaker 4: runner and receiver. He has home runability. He's a natural

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Speaker 4: cutback runner with great vision. What he does for the

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Speaker 4: Bills is he's not only an option run the ball

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Speaker 4: inside and outside.

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Speaker 3: But he can catch the ball out the backfield and

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Speaker 3: make things happen.

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Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor is more of the a man. I'm an

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Speaker 4: run it, run it runner and eventually I'm a pop

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Speaker 4: in some of his games where you've seen he's had

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Speaker 4: explosive games where he's at over two hundred yards and

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Speaker 4: then he has some games that are a bit pedestrian,

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Speaker 4: but he gets going, he's gonna produce big runs and

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Speaker 4: you just have to make sure that you're discipline in filling.

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Speaker 3: The gaps on him. Both are very, very good, but

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Speaker 3: they do it with different styles.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you're you're a general manager personnel director. You

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Speaker 2: have a choice to get either one. Who do you

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Speaker 2: pick on your team? Or is the offensive line a

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Speaker 2: major factor as to which of these running backs you picked?

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Speaker 2: Because you know, I see for years, the last several

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Speaker 2: years Philadelphia's had a great run game simply because their

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Speaker 2: offensive line is three hundred pounds plus. This year is

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Speaker 2: a different story, and Saquon Barkley certainly not having the

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Speaker 2: area last year.

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Speaker 4: I would say with Saquon Barkley, their offensive line is

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Speaker 4: not what it's been.

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Speaker 3: They have not played up to the standard.

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Speaker 4: You know, Lane Johnson going out at injuries that have

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Speaker 4: that have certainly impacted the offensive line and.

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Speaker 3: The play caller.

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Speaker 4: You know, they're just call them a different game that

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Speaker 4: they've called in the past. Sakwa Barkley is still as

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Speaker 4: good as advertised. The explosives to burst, all this stuff

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Speaker 4: is still there. It's just that they haven't been in

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Speaker 4: sync offensively, and sometimes the shuffling at the line of

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Speaker 4: scrimmage can do that. So the offensive line is certainly critical.

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Speaker 4: But if I had to pick one, I'm pick Jonathan

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Speaker 4: Taylor all day, every day, just because of the way

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Speaker 4: he runs.

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Speaker 3: He's a physical runner who can do it all. I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna build. I'm gonna build the offense around here.

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Speaker 2: I love that runner who was nominated for Heisman from

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame. I think he's great. I mean love, I

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Speaker 2: mean how oh man, I mean the hurdling that he

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Speaker 2: does or twisting the turning. Uh, how how well will

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Speaker 2: he do at the next level? Because I think he

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Speaker 2: will do well at.

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Speaker 3: The next level.

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Speaker 4: Well, he's the top he's the top five talent. Now,

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Speaker 4: I don't know, because running backs sometimes can get dean.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if he will be a top five pick,

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Speaker 4: but he should be. He is terrific with the ball

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Speaker 4: in his hands. He does everything that you want to see.

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Speaker 4: He can grind it out and.

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Speaker 3: Get the tough, dirty yards, but he also has that

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Speaker 3: home run power that everyone wants in the backfield. He's man,

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Speaker 3: He's good.

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Speaker 4: He's his advertise best, one of the best run backs

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Speaker 4: we've seen come out in the last few years.

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Speaker 2: Now, the question I asked coming into the sinema, where

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Speaker 2: was the all season long? I'm talking about the Falcons

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Speaker 2: twenty nine to twenty eight went over the Bucks on Thursday,

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Speaker 2: and I normally wouldn't even care about this game. However,

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Speaker 2: the story is Kirk Cousins. I couldn't believe I mean

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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins, I mean forgot about this guy. For the Falcons.

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Speaker 2: He was thirty for forty four three seventy three, three

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Speaker 2: touchdowns all to Kyle Pitts Sr. And now you got

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Speaker 2: to say to yourself, where was he all year long?

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Speaker 2: And maybe they should have played him? What is this

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Speaker 2: do now for the Falcons? What does this do for

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Speaker 2: Michael Pennix Junior? I mean, you gotta be shocked with

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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins. He looked like he was playing for like

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Speaker 2: three four years ago.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that was part of the reason why

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Speaker 4: you paid Kirk Cousins, why and drafted Michael Pennix. You

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Speaker 4: wanted to make sure that you had the quarterback position solidified.

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Speaker 4: And a lot of people have taken the Falcons to task,

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Speaker 4: but in this moment, it worked out for them. Kirk

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Speaker 4: Cousin bounced back. He gave them exactly what they needed.

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Speaker 3: He made some plays, He's terrific in the pocket, He

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Speaker 3: did all those things. The problem with Kirk.

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00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 4: Cousins is he hasn't been consistent enough as he's gotten

656
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,959
Speaker 4: older for the Falcons to be the guy that they

657
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 4: wanted him to be. First, he was coming off the

658
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 4: injury last year, didn't look the same, and then this

659
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 4: year he's gotten a chance and it took a little

660
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 4: slow start for him, but like he got it going

661
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 4: and I think if you're the Falcons, the best thing

662
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 4: that you can hope for is that you finished with

663
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 4: a bang and somehow you're able to hold on for

664
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Speaker 4: another year.

665
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Speaker 3: If you're Raheem Morris and then kind of figured it out.

666
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 2: You know, you look at that Falcons team and one

667
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: of the bigger disappointments. I think between the Falcons and

668
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: the Minnesotavikers, they may be the two bigger disappointments this

669
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 2: year in the league. They're five and nine right now

670
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 2: after that win. But that game, although they won, they

671
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 2: had what nineteen penalties and come on, I mean they

672
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: were down twenty eight fourteen in the fourth quarter and

673
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 2: they beat Tampa Bay and that hurt Tampa Bay big

674
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 2: time for players. I mean a bad loss. I mean,

675
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: you can't say anything else. How do you win with

676
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 2: nineteen penalties? I don't get it. How does that happen?

677
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 3: Yeah? I like, it shouldn't happen.

678
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 4: You shouldn't have that, meaning self inflicted misus and still

679
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 4: be able to survive.

680
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 3: But somehow they were able to do it.

681
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's uncommon that it gets down like that, but

682
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 4: they were able to do it.

683
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,479
Speaker 2: Okay, now I'll run this by I watched these games,

684
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: I don't watch it with the same aye you do.

685
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 2: You played the game, You're right about it. You're wonderful

686
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 2: doing that stuff, and you're a knowledge of football. And

687
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: I love talking to you about that because you always

688
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: helped me out and tell me what's going on. You know,

689
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: when I see penalties, when I see like offside, you know,

690
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 2: and the snap and they take those stupid I mean

691
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: to me, that's just repetition in practice, isn't it? Or

692
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: does the crowd factor the noise is that? Is that

693
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 2: the reason why they have the premature snaps at times?

694
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't understand how you can make those

695
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: those mistakes time and time again, and the same team,

696
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 2: the same teams do it all the time. I see

697
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 2: the Bengals do it all the time, you know, offside, offside.

698
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just maybe they don't practice it enough

699
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: or they're not that smart. I don't know. I don't

700
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 2: I can't answer the question. The only excuse I could

701
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: give is that if they're playing a game away, the

702
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 2: way crowd is affecting them when they can't hear the

703
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 2: snap call, I don't know. I have no answer.

704
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 3: Sometimes crowd noise plays a factor like on the road. Obviously,

705
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 3: other times it's just a lack of concentration. They just

706
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 3: don't concentrate on the count and they just flench, you know.

707
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 3: But it's one of those things that it should never happen.

708
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 3: We should never have pre.

709
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 4: Stamped penantes that are under our control. We know the

710
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 4: snap count, we know the alignment, we know all those things,

711
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,959
Speaker 4: like we should we should be clean in those areas,

712
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 4: and when we're not, is a concentration left that we

713
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 4: need to be able to control.

714
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 2: Okay, am I crazy by saying this? I see it

715
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: more in the pros that I do in college, and

716
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: I don't watch probably as many games as you do,

717
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: but I don't see it that often in college. I

718
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: see it much more in the pros.

719
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Speaker 4: Like maybe the crowd stuff and maybe there's so many

720
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 4: things going on, because I will say in college, like

721
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 4: you have so many changes, so many audibles, so many

722
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 4: adjustments that the quarterback is making that sometimes you can

723
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 4: get a little jumpy in your stance, you know, because

724
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 4: you're in that stance for a long time.

725
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 3: I can't verify and say that it's more common in

726
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 3: the pros than in college, but I will say I

727
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 3: can understand why.

728
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 4: It's just the Rockets environment and the amount of responsibilities

729
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 4: that are heaped on the offensive line in terms of

730
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 4: understanding how past protection changes, how plays change in those things.

731
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Speaker 2: Okay, when you played the game, how often do they

732
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: go over that and practice? I mean you have to

733
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 2: drill it every day. I would think over and over

734
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 2: and over again until you see it in your sleep

735
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 2: and you don't make that mistake. And what does a

736
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: coach do when you make that mistake? Have you seen

737
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 2: coaches just go ballistic and go crazy on the sidelines.

738
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 2: I don't see that often. I could see in Detroit

739
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell going nuts when that happens. You know, certain

740
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: coaches have that explosiveness. I don't see that happening. And

741
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 2: Cincinnati with Zach Taylor, I just don't see it. It's

742
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 2: almost commonplace, it's almost expected. I really see that, I

743
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 2: really do.

744
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 4: I would say that people talk about it every day,

745
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 4: you coach it every day. I just want to convey, like,

746
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 4: there's so much information that are given to the quarterback

747
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 4: in the huddle, and you have two full play calls

748
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 4: that the quarterback has at his disposal. Sometimes he has

749
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 4: to kill one, so you go to the other and

750
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 4: then the other may have an adjustment, So there's a

751
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 4: lot of communication going on, and for someone in their

752
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 4: stance with their hand down processing, all of that can

753
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 4: make them a little nervous and a little jumpy, which is

754
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 4: why they would jump off size or do some of

755
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 4: the things that they do.

756
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 2: Here we go. He's Bucky Brooks and many Firman. We're

757
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 2: live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: your presets in the iHeart app, so it will always

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Speaker 2: pop up at your screen. All right, here we go. Oh,

766
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 2: do we have questions, He's the man I can answer them.

767
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 2: Ask Bucky. Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Alright,

768
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 2: here we go, Ask Bucky time right here on Fox

769
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Speaker 2: Football Sunday. That's Bucky Brooks on me Andy Furman, about

770
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Speaker 2: maybe eleven minutes before the top of the hour and

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Speaker 2: of course, we're alive from the Fox Sports radio studios.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, he every goal starts with an assist.

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Speaker 2: my man, Brandon Night, are you ready to handle as

779
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 2: Bucky today?

780
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's do it.

781
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 3: Let's do it.

782
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: It's good, It's all yours, my man, go ahead, all right,

783
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: we got to call her.

784
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 5: First. E Dog has a question for Bucky called in

785
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 5: e Dog, What is your question for Bucky?

786
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, I have two questions.

787
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: My first question is do you think that Dallas Cowboys

788
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 2: who rise to the.

789
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: Occasion and when the division passed the Eagles?

790
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 3: No, I don't think.

791
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 4: I think they messed up their opportunity when they gave

792
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 4: away a game. I think the Eagles will find a

793
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 4: way to correct the course and they'll win.

794
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 3: I think the leader is insurmountable.

795
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: Okay, do you think Beagles can cover against the Raiders.

796
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:07,959
Speaker 3: What's the line.

797
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 2: I think it's twelve and a half.

798
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 3: That's a big line. I would saying, No, I've played

799
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 3: under on that. That's tough.

800
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 4: Twelve twelve man, twelve and a half points and pros.

801
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 4: That's crazy. No, I would take I would take the Raiders.

802
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 3: On that one. Did you even hear the lake nin

803
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 3: drug tester?

804
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 2: Who miss selling? What do you say?

805
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 3: I don't know what.

806
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 5: I don't know he got, he got his points, he

807
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 5: got his points.

808
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: I don't know what the last one.

809
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 5: I have a question though, for Bucky all Right, how

810
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 5: did Sharon Moore's record affect his Michigan fire Because it

811
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 5: seemed like for a long time. I know his actions

812
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 5: were obviously inexcusable if they're proven true, but for a

813
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 5: long time it seemed like there was some uncertainty with

814
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 5: him ever since Harball left.

815
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 4: I think they played a part in it, and it

816
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 4: was crazy is I think he was eighteen and eight,

817
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 4: he had one win over Ohio State. I think that

818
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 4: was probably more of the case. I think there were

819
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 4: people that never wanted him to be the head coach.

820
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 4: More so than anything, he gave them right with his

821
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 4: misbehavior to get rid of him, but I always felt

822
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 4: like there was a faction of the fan base that

823
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 4: wasn't fully on board with his hiring after Jim Harpart left.

824
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Speaker 5: Okay, in the Philadelphia Eagles, they've lost three straight. E

825
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 5: Dog brought this up, but why why have they lost

826
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 5: three straight?

827
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Speaker 3: Well, they lost three straight because I don't think they

828
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 3: don't have an identity on offense.

829
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 4: And if you can't figure out who you are, you're

830
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 4: kind of wandering around. You have a j Brown who

831
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 4: was I mean like sending these cryptic messages for a

832
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 4: long time about being getting touches and involved. And so

833
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 4: the last three games he has one hundred yards and

834
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 4: they've lost each of them. This is a team that

835
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 4: has always been better when they run the football. First,

836
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 4: he goes through Saquon Barkley and Jayalen Hurst as a runner,

837
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 4: and then the people feed in the passing game.

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Speaker 3: They need to get back to the formul in the blueprint.

839
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 2: I may just for one say, I've been watching HBO

840
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 2: in the season the NFC eastne Nick Sirianni was not

841
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 2: talking about it. Seems to me like he's just a

842
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: stubborn ass. Really, he won't change. I mean it doesn't

843
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: bother him. I mean they talk to him about the

844
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 2: loss I had against Dallas and whatever it may be.

845
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 2: But still in all I mean, I listened to Nick

846
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 2: Sirianni and I'm saying, you got to be more flexible, man.

847
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a problem there and you're not doing

848
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 2: anything about it.

849
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Speaker 5: It seems like the locker room also might be like

850
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 5: provided on Jalen Hurts's leadership and others. Just from what

851
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 5: I've seen, obviously I'm not in the locker room, it.

852
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 4: Seems Yeah, it seems like there are a lot of

853
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 4: things going on in the locker room, you know, between

854
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 4: aj Brown, Jalen Hurts, how people perceive Jalen Hurst, all.

855
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 3: That other stuff. But I do know this.

856
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 4: I know Jalen Hurst has won a lot of games,

857
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 4: and I know typically the quarterback is the last guy

858
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 4: to be the fall guy. If they're issues, they can

859
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 4: give rid of the other guys that they perceive they

860
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 4: have issues rather than the quarterback because it's so hard

861
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 4: to find a quarterback.

862
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Speaker 2: Can we get one more in there? Brandon? One more?

863
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 5: Yeah?

864
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Speaker 2: Mark?

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Speaker 5: We got for forty seconds?

866
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Speaker 2: All right?

867
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Speaker 3: Quick?

868
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 2: One?

869
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Speaker 5: Bengals QB Joe Burrow said, why play if he's not

870
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 5: having fun, what does he mean by that?

871
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 4: I think he's been a little poudy just because the

872
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 4: team is losing, and it's only fun when you win

873
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 4: in the league. It's too hard to prepare and to

874
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 4: do all the other things if you're not getting a

875
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 4: result that you want.

876
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 3: He's just being a powdy guy.

877
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: That's all I got the answer to that question. You know,

878
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: he's been bengalized. When you play hell long enough, like

879
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: Carson Palmit, did you become what we called bengalized? And

880
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 2: he's bengalized right now. That's what he is, all right,

881
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 2: Bucket Brooks and athy froman And by the way, have

882
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 2: you ever heard of this term? We'll explain it and

883
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: so much more where Fox Football Son. They're coming up next,

884
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 2: all right, one quarterback could be watching the playoffs on

885
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 2: TV after today. We'll get to that in just about

886
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 2: a minute. Good morning, everybody. This is Fox Football Sunday

887
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. He is Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Ferner.

888
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,279
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889
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,520
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890
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,560
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895
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896
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 2: here we go, mister Brooks, I got a quick question.

897
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 2: I had a leftover question from as Bucky. I need

898
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: the answer to this. I want to know why James

899
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: Madison University JMU and Tulane are playing in the College

900
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: football Playoffs. You gotta help me out there, because there's

901
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 2: no cinderella team in the college football playoffs like there

902
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 2: is in basketball. I remember several years ago when Saint

903
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 2: Peter's in New Jersey be Kentucky in the first round.

904
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 2: That doesn't happen in football. There's no way on God's

905
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 2: green Earth, these schools are going to advance. So why

906
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 2: are they there?

907
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 4: Because they're the best representatives in the group of five

908
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 4: and because the ACC did not have a ranked.

909
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 3: Champion ahead of those guys. That's why they go.

910
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 4: When Duke knocked off Virginia, it put those two teams in.

911
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 4: Tulane was already in, but it put JMU in. So

912
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 4: that's why JMU will go to Oregon to take on

913
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 4: the Ducks.

914
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: Vanderbilt should have been in there, There's no doubt in

915
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 2: my mind, and putting Vanderbilt Notre Dame would have been

916
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 2: a bit of tournament. Get those two guys out there.

917
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I hope they change it. I mean, I

918
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 2: understand they want the Group of five, but really and

919
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 2: truly they should have their own tournament. Then it's a

920
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 2: different caliber player. Don't you agree they shouldn't be there?

921
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 2: You know, it's like apples and oranges that'll mix.

922
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 4: I completely agree with you, and I think it's something

923
00:42:58,600 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 4: that would love to see. I think the Bowl Game

924
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 4: games are point as their moneymakers for TV, but I

925
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 4: think you can do just the same with all of

926
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 4: the playoffs. If you just have two sets of playoffs

927
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 4: allowed them to run concurrently, I think we would enjoy

928
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 4: that more. But we just have an archaic system right

929
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 4: now with the Bowl Game still heavily involved, and so

930
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 4: that just makes it hard.

931
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: All right.

932
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 2: Now, let's get to the NFL's a couple of games

933
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 2: right now that Dolphins. The Dolphins are streaking right now

934
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 2: a little bit at six and seven, and they're playing

935
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh, as you mentioned early on, they're playing tomorrow

936
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 2: night in Pittsburgh seven and four. But there's a lot

937
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 2: of noise surrounding the Pittsburgh Steelers, obviously the number one

938
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 2: in the AFC North. But coach Mike Tomlin, honestly, this

939
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 2: noise gotta stop. There's seven and six, as I mentioned,

940
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: they're at top of the AFC North, and they beat

941
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 2: the Ravens and Aaron Rodgers and he had his first

942
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 2: rushing touchdown since the end of twenty twenty two. That's

943
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: what the Steelers did last week. So I wonder if

944
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 2: Ben Roethlisberger is going to apologize to Mike Tomlin if

945
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: the Steelers win the division. Wasn't Roethlisberger the one said

946
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 2: about a week or two ago, that is time for

947
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin to move on. Do you think he's gonna apologize?

948
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 2: I mean, why do these guys do that. They open

949
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 2: their mouths to stick their foot in there. You talk

950
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: about Mike Tomlin. All right, guys, a Hall of Fame coach,

951
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 2: never had a losing season. I understand they want more.

952
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 2: The teams have been somewhat mediocre in the last several years.

953
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 2: No quarterback, that's the story, right, there. But they can

954
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 2: win the division this year, then who knows what happens

955
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 2: if they do from there on in So Ben Roelthzisberger,

956
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 2: I'm waiting. I want to see if the Steelers win

957
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 2: the division. If Ben Roethterisberger says I was wrong, I'm sorry.

958
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: Tomlin's a hell of a coach. Maybe he didn't like

959
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 2: Tomlin when he played for him. I don't know, But

960
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: do you agree with that? I just think that these

961
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: guys got to back off a little bit. Why start

962
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 2: this commotion when there's nothing wrong in Pittsburgh right now?

963
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: There really isn't.

964
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 3: I mean, this stuff is wrong. I mean, they may

965
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 3: win the division. They haven't played well for most of

966
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 3: the time.

967
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 4: But the Steelers and Tomlin always kind of back themselves

968
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 4: into a corner. They seem to play at their best

969
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 4: when they're like that. That was a huge win against

970
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 4: the Baltimore Ravens. But now you want to see can

971
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 4: they continue to do it? Because right now what is

972
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 4: setting up is what we've always seen from the Pittsburgh

973
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 4: steel is they'll find a way to get into the playoffs,

974
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 4: but they won't do much when they're there. We'll see though,

975
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 4: But yeah, there's a lot of noise around the program,

976
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 4: a lot of noise around the Steelers.

977
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 3: We'll see how it holds up.

978
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 2: Okay, And the big problem right now is not Mike Tomin.

979
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 2: The big problem is t J Watt, one of the

980
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: highest paid edge rushers in the league and twenty twenty

981
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 2: one Associated Press Defensive Player of the Year. He suffered

982
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 2: a partially collapse long during a Wednesday dry kneedling treatment.

983
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 2: All right, at the team facility. I had to look

984
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 2: this up. What in the hell is a dry kneeling treatment?

985
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 2: Helped me out? And have you ever had one?

986
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 3: I've never had dry needling, but that's scary. Whatever happened

987
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 3: to Tj? Why that is crazy?

988
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 4: I never had I know people, it's popular most people

989
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 4: in terms of recovery or whatever. I've never had it though.

990
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 2: Okay, I looked it up and it still it blows

991
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 2: me away because it is the first time I ever

992
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 2: heard of it. They say it's a skilled intervention where

993
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 2: the provider uses a thin needle to penetrate the skin

994
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 2: with the goal of alleviating pain and improving movement. And

995
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 2: they have wet needling too. Wet needling utilizes a hollow

996
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:27,720
Speaker 2: born needle which has a central channel to allow liquid

997
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 2: to pass through it to inject the medication. Dried needling

998
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 2: uses a solid needle and no substance is injected, and

999
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 2: they use it, I guess for muscle pain, strains, tendinitis,

1000
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 2: rotator cuff, bicep injury, things like that. So collapse long, Hey,

1001
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 2: how did he get it?

1002
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 5: Be?

1003
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 2: How serious is it?

1004
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 4: I mean, it's serious if you had to have surgery.

1005
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 4: Anytime you have to undergo surgery, it's serious. Don't know

1006
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 4: how it happened, obviously, Like it's not a procedure that

1007
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 4: you would think would lead to some thing where he

1008
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 4: has a collapse on he has to undergo surgery, but

1009
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 4: something with a rye uh. You hope that he is

1010
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 4: good and the recovery will be quick and he'll be

1011
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 4: able to get back on the field. But yeah, that's

1012
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 4: I mean that happened in the facility, the team facility,

1013
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 4: in the training room and those things.

1014
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 3: Man, that's tough. That's very very Oh that's that's not

1015
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 3: a good look for the still his training.

1016
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 2: Style, right, And my question is just and it played

1017
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 2: a stupid question, but did he did he get the

1018
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 2: collapse lung during a game. Was it an injury factor

1019
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 2: in a ballgame that that created a collapse long?

1020
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 3: No, I thought they were saying this is a direct

1021
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 3: cause by the needling. The needling, something went wrong with

1022
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 3: the procedure.

1023
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 2: Oh I see, and that led to them.

1024
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that led to the collapse lung. And so

1025
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 3: it was a reaction to whatever it took place with

1026
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 3: the dry needling. That was my interpretation.

1027
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 2: Oh okay. I thought it may have been a game

1028
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 2: injury and the kneedling was kind of to help it. No,

1029
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 2: So that was he had pain somewhere shoulder, whatever it

1030
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 2: may have been. In the joy needling was to kind

1031
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 2: of alleviate that pain, and that cause to you the

1032
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: oh wow, see that I didn't know. That's bad.

1033
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 3: That's real bad. Yeah.

1034
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 4: I mean that's certainly bad on the on the staff,

1035
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 4: like you shouldn't have a recovery process lead to an

1036
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 4: injury that, especially to you one of your best players.

1037
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 2: Wow, all right, Uh, you know what without TJ there,

1038
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 2: you know, and Aaron Rodgers did have a rushing touchdown

1039
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 2: last week. But again, Baltimore is not really at full strength.

1040
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 2: There's still some injuries over there. I still think that

1041
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 2: the weather may be a fact that I still think

1042
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 2: the Steelers win that game. Games in Pittsburgh, I don't

1043
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 2: think the Dolphins are really that good, and I think

1044
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: the factor that you're playing from the heat in Florida

1045
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 2: going to Pittsburgh, that may be the game changer right there.

1046
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 2: I think the Steelers win that game.

1047
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 3: I would say, so this is a big game.

1048
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 4: It's a big game because they have to show their maturity.

1049
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 4: Are they good enough to be a certain jing Dolphins team.

1050
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 4: If they can knock that off, it puts him in

1051
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 4: line to win a division. It also begins to create

1052
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 4: some confidence that, oh there still is a remnant in

1053
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 4: the form at the right.

1054
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 2: Time, right all right now. I mentioned coming into the

1055
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,439
Speaker 2: segment that one quarterback could be watching the playoffs on TV,

1056
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 2: and he may have a friend with him. I mean,

1057
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow is gonna be watching the playoffs on TV.

1058
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: There's no doubt my mind. Bengals are not going to

1059
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 2: the playoffs. But he may be joined by Patrick Mahomes.

1060
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 2: Because the Chiefs are hosting the charges today, charges nine

1061
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 2: to four at the Chiefs six and seven. Again, weather

1062
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 2: could be a fact. There's gonna be real cold in

1063
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 2: Kansas City. Charges are used to that warm weather. They'll

1064
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 2: be ready. I just think they'll be ready now if

1065
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: they lose today and it happens they're out of the playoffs.

1066
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 2: Charges running game is gonna get it done, and the

1067
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 2: Chiefs are really bad stopping the run. That's the name

1068
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 2: of the game. And they're gonna just run run him

1069
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 2: out of the building, I think. And I'm amazed with

1070
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert playing with that broken wrist. I just don't

1071
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 2: think he gets the credit he deserves. What do you

1072
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 2: think about that? I think, And this happened way back

1073
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 2: when he was drafted. He was always like the second

1074
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 2: fiddle behind Joe Burrow. I think Justin Harby is an

1075
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 2: amazing quarterback, but just no one knows about him. Really.

1076
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's an amazing quarterback and he hasn't gotten his

1077
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 3: just due.

1078
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 4: But this is a chance for him to get that,

1079
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 4: to get exactly what he deserves in terms of recognition

1080
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 4: for being a tough guy quarterback in town, the quarterback

1081
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 4: who gets it done at a high level. What's interesting

1082
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 4: when it comes to Herbert and the Chargers and those

1083
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 4: things is, yeah, they get a chance to vanquish the

1084
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 4: big bad wolf if they can kind of get it

1085
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 4: done and knock it off.

1086
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 3: So we'll see, like this is a big game. It's

1087
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 3: a big game for the Chargers just because they need

1088
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 3: to continue to win to give themselves a chance of

1089
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 3: maybe plucking off the Denver Broncos at the end.

1090
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 2: Could you imagine the playoffs without Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey? Really?

1091
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? I can't.

1092
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 4: They haven't played great all year, so this isn't a surprise.

1093
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 4: They haven't played well. They lack explosiveness on the offense.

1094
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 4: The running game is inconsistent. That makes it tough, and

1095
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 4: it's the Pat Mahomes show and he has to run

1096
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:04,879
Speaker 4: around and do a lot of different stuff.

1097
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 3: They just haven't played well enough.

1098
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 4: And it's a look, it's a long shot for them

1099
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 4: to get in. I mean, they can win it, but

1100
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 4: it's a long shot right now for them to get

1101
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 4: into the.

1102
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 2: Postseason right And and what happens to there is the

1103
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: big quest? What happens to Taylor Swift? Does she still

1104
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 2: go to the playoff games if the Kansas City is

1105
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 2: not in them? I doubt it? So she's not a

1106
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 2: football fan. She she's a Travis Kelsey. It's not doubt

1107
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 2: about this. I thought, why would she go. Look, I'm

1108
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 2: not a Kansas City Chiefs fan, but I think it's

1109
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 2: good for the lead that they're not going to be

1110
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. I think different faces are good. It's

1111
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 2: not going to hurt anything. It's not going to hurt ratings.

1112
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 2: People love it. Really. I think I think change is good. Right.

1113
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 2: I think it's good that they're not going to be there.

1114
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 3: I mean, I wouldn't be heartbroken if they're not there.

1115
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 2: Right, your team might be there. You're Jackson be ten

1116
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 2: and four after today, Right, Jacks will be there.

1117
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 3: If they can take care of business. If they can

1118
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 3: take care of business, Yeah, they have a chance to

1119
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 3: be there.

1120
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 2: Could you believe they lost to Cincinnati. Don't think about that.

1121
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 2: It should be getting their eleventh win today.

1122
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a huge one that could come back

1123
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 3: to cost him when it comes to some critical stuff. Yeah,

1124
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 3: that's the game that that hurt.

1125
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 4: I mean, especially against Jake Browning because Jake Browning, that's

1126
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 4: the game that Joe Burgh got hurt. Jake Browning comes

1127
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 4: in and saves today somehow. So Yeah, but there's some

1128
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 4: lessons learned in that game that helped them. They also

1129
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 4: gave away a game against the Houston Texans when they

1130
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 4: had a twenty nine to ten lead in the fourth quarter.

1131
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 4: So there's some things, but those lessons have helped them.

1132
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 4: Now today will be a test of their maturity. Because

1133
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 4: the caller asked me about that huge line Raiders and Eagles.

1134
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 4: I mean, the line is significant Jets and Jacks, and

1135
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 4: that is Look, it's hard. It's hard to say that

1136
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 4: another pro team is going to dominate another protein by

1137
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 4: two touchdowns going into it.

1138
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 2: I'm with you right there. Okay, Now I want to

1139
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 2: shine the spotlight on one Bucky Brooks. You know I

1140
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 2: mentioned this almost week weekly, the writing that you do

1141
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 2: for NFL dot Com and Foxsports dot Com. You have

1142
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 2: outdone yourself this week. I'm putting the spotlight on you

1143
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 2: right now. This to me, no one has ever done this.

1144
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it anywhere NFL dot Com. Bucky Brooks,

1145
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 2: you graded all thirty two first round picks for the

1146
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,720
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five draft, and I think that's great because

1147
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 2: it's accountability. Really, because these clowns that do these mock

1148
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 2: drafts after the draft is done, no one follows up,

1149
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 2: especially that clown on the Four Letter Network. Really, you know,

1150
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 2: he goes crazy and he goes nuts. But after that,

1151
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 2: no one says, well, well, how did your picks do

1152
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 2: a year or two down the road? You did it

1153
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 2: and it was a lot of work. How hard was

1154
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 2: this to do before we get involved with this thing?

1155
00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 3: A little bit?

1156
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 4: I mean as hard as are agreed thirty two different players,

1157
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 4: you know, over the course of a week and look

1158
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 4: at their seasons and to get all the stuff that

1159
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 4: you need to do to have a reasonable grading system

1160
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 4: and a metric to measure them all. And all players

1161
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 4: are created equal and what they're asked to do isn't

1162
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 4: the same. And so you're trying to be subjective in

1163
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 4: a way that you're fair to the team. The player

1164
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 4: will also be an objective to hey, let's give a

1165
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 4: greade based on where they were taken.

1166
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,919
Speaker 2: And by the way, what kind of feedback, if any,

1167
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 2: do you ever get from these little stories, because I'm

1168
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 2: sure the players read them. There's no doubt in my

1169
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 2: mind they see this. Have you gotten.

1170
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 4: I mean, I try and stay away from discsspool that

1171
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,439
Speaker 4: social media can be and some of the things or whatever,

1172
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 4: so I haven't. I mean, if I'm sure there's feedback,

1173
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 4: everyone has an opinion, just like I have an opinion,

1174
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:50,760
Speaker 4: so it's whatever.

1175
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 3: It's all good.

1176
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 2: I think it's great. I mean, and last, but not least,

1177
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 2: how long did it take you to do this? This

1178
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 2: is a project. It's like a term paper.

1179
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 3: It was a two week deal. So I got the

1180
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 3: assignment like a couple of weeks ago and started working

1181
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 3: on it.

1182
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 2: All right, we're not gonna go through all. Maybeybe the

1183
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 2: top five the top five for the twenty twenty five draft,

1184
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 2: and the first pick last year in the draft was

1185
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans, and they picked the quarterback cam Ward from

1186
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 2: Miami and really and truly, you know, we talked about this.

1187
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 2: He was so quiet. There was no noise whatsoever, no

1188
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 2: noise and maybe lucky for him, there wasn't you know,

1189
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 2: and still and all yet you still haven't heard much

1190
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 2: of the team is terrible, you know. And you can't

1191
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 2: blame it on him, obviously, but you gave him a

1192
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 2: grade I think of B minus. What's what's the deal

1193
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 2: with cam Ward? Is he gonna make it? What's the

1194
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 2: story with him?

1195
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, the main thing is he doesn't have

1196
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 4: a lot around him, so we haven't fully seen him

1197
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 4: maximize yet. Also, the coaching change at the beginning of

1198
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 4: the year certainly didn't do him any favors. So then

1199
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 4: you have somebody else coaching him than the person that

1200
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 4: picked him.

1201
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 3: So he has to find his way. But it'd be

1202
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 3: interesting because here's what we've seen. We saw Drake May exploding.

1203
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,760
Speaker 4: Year two, Mike Rabel comes in with Josh mc damers.

1204
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 4: They put an office around him and he goes and

1205
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 4: so there's still a lot of optimism and hope for

1206
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 4: cam Ward. He has the talent, he has the mentality

1207
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 4: to be able to be a great one. Now you

1208
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 4: just got to make sure you found the right coach

1209
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 4: and you put the right people around and to have success.

1210
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 2: Right And by the way, if people want to see

1211
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,760
Speaker 2: this this NFL dot com, go to the NFL Riders

1212
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 2: and scroll down and see Bucket Brooks's wonderful picture and

1213
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 2: you get this deal because you could really read this.

1214
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 2: It's it's enjoyable and informative as well. Second pick, you're

1215
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jacks and I thought it was a great pick,

1216
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 2: but he got hurt, So it was Travis Hunter. Tell

1217
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 2: me about Travis Hunter. You're close to the guy. What

1218
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 2: kind of a person is he? Because I saw him,

1219
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 2: I think it was the Heisman last year, and he

1220
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 2: was pretty pretty well put together. I mean as far

1221
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 2: as like between the years, he had a going. He's

1222
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 2: a good guy.

1223
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like he is a good guy. He's great.

1224
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 4: He brings energy to the field, and the biggest thing

1225
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 4: with Travis is trying to figure out what's the best

1226
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 4: position for him. He's trying to do something that hadn't

1227
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 4: been done often in the league, and that's been a

1228
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 4: two way standout out and he flashed on both sides.

1229
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 3: But right when he was about to get.

1230
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 4: His opportunity to be the focal point on offense, he

1231
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,280
Speaker 4: has an injury in practice that ends prematurely ends the season.

1232
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 4: So heaving it a great but really it's more of

1233
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 4: an incomplete because you hadn't seen enough to really make

1234
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 4: a hard assessment on how good he can be. I

1235
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 4: will say though, he has some of the best ball

1236
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 4: skills that I've ever seen, and so it's just tracking

1237
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 4: and catching the ball, whether it's as a wide out

1238
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 4: or as a dB. He's terrific. It's just a matter

1239
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 4: of you got to set him up to you got

1240
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 4: to set him up for success.

1241
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 3: So does that mean being a full time offensive player

1242
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 3: and a part time defensive player or vice versa. But

1243
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 3: whatever it is, there just has to be a clear

1244
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 3: plan for his utilization.

1245
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,479
Speaker 2: Has a coaching staff made a decision where he'll play?

1246
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 2: Is it a decision on Travis's part that he still

1247
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 2: wants to play both ways?

1248
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 4: I think they're still trying to play in both ways

1249
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 4: next year and just kind of figured out it is naturally.

1250
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 4: I think it'll naturally correct itself and you will kind

1251
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 4: of see what's best for the team, all right.

1252
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 2: Pick number three the New York Football Giants, the first

1253
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 2: team eliminated from playoff activity this year, and they picked

1254
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 2: ab Dull Carter out of Pench State. A rusher maybe

1255
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 2: look speed rusher obviously, but what grade did you give him?

1256
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously that team is Sometimes I guess you

1257
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 2: play as good as as your team is, right, Isn't

1258
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 2: that true? I mean he may have a great skill set,

1259
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 2: but the team isn't good, So you play to the

1260
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 2: level of your team.

1261
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, is great, as little to do it is on

1262
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 4: field and more to do it is off field. He

1263
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 4: has been benched the last couple of games for being

1264
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 4: late to meetings and those things, and so sorry, before

1265
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 4: you can even get right on the field, you got

1266
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 4: to get right off the field, and so a lot

1267
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 4: of the.

1268
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 3: Immaturity and those things have leaked onto it. On the field, he's.

1269
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 4: Flash, he's played, he's got a ton of pressures, and

1270
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 4: he's around it. He hasn't got many sacks or those things,

1271
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 4: but he's been around it. I think the most dis

1272
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 4: pointing part is when you take someone number three, you

1273
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 4: expect them to have it together. You want them to

1274
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 4: be a potential superstar, you want them to flash immediately.

1275
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 4: But he can't get out of his or he hasn't

1276
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 4: been able to consistently get out of his own way.

1277
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 4: And so until they get that part fixed where he

1278
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 4: is hib it's more professionalism, then we won't know what

1279
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 4: he can be and what he will be at.

1280
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 3: The next level.

1281
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 2: I was surprised with that because of all the meetings

1282
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 2: they have in Indianapolis at the Combine and the questions

1283
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 2: that they asked and everything they go back to the

1284
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 2: high school coaches and things like that, you would think

1285
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 2: that they would have learned about his immaturity. And I'm shocked.

1286
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a problem on the Giants staff more

1287
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 2: than anything else. I think they didn't do their homework.

1288
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 2: Am I correct on that.

1289
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 4: I mean he's telled enough where you hope that he'll

1290
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 4: mature in those things. And so you rolled the dice

1291
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 4: thinking that, hey, look we get him here, we put

1292
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 4: him in the right environment to write culture. He'll he'll

1293
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 4: step up, he'll be the pro, he'll be all those

1294
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 4: other things. But the combine is fifteen minute interview. You

1295
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 4: don't really know what you're getting until you bring the

1296
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 4: guy in the building. And that's the tough thing about

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Speaker 4: the draft. You don't know until you get them. And

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Speaker 4: sometimes you don't have all the information that you need,

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Speaker 4: and that the player's true colors don't show up until

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Speaker 4: they show it to show up in the building.

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Speaker 2: And more than that, I think money makes you crazy, right,

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Speaker 2: money could change it.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it can change it. I don't think

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Speaker 3: it can change you.

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Speaker 4: I think what it does is whoever you are, money

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Speaker 4: magnifies that to the tenth degree. So if you are

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Speaker 4: a person who is not a professional, whatever, money only

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Speaker 4: shows that side of it because then you become careless

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Speaker 4: or whatever. So like you just have to make sure

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Speaker 4: who that person is. It's going to be illuminated when

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Speaker 4: you put a bunch of money in their pocket.

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Speaker 2: Let me just squeeze one more in because I want

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Speaker 2: to end on a high note, because you gave this

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Speaker 2: guy a Grade A and you talk about the success

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Speaker 2: of your guy out of North Carolina, Drake May. The

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Speaker 2: fourth pick was out of Louisiana State, Will Campbell, offensive

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Speaker 2: tackle with the New England Patriots. And I think the

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Speaker 2: success level that Drake May has achieved this year, part

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Speaker 2: of that gives a credit to Will Campbell on that line.

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Speaker 2: He's protecting the blind side.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Will Kim has been terrific man.

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Speaker 4: He's been everything they wanted him to do, done a

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Speaker 4: great job protecting Drake May's blindside.

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Speaker 3: And because of that, Drake May has been able to

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Speaker 3: get off play at an MVP level in the second season.

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Speaker 4: Will Campbell's sideline briefly, and we'll come back into week

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Speaker 4: eighteen because you know ir, but he's been good.

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Speaker 3: He's been as advertised.

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Speaker 2: They have to be pleased with his effort and speak

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Speaker 2: of your Alma Mado North Carolina. I think Bill Belichick

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01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 2: fired the offensive coordinated in it the other day. I

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Speaker 2: think he did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you get rid of Freddy Kitchens and Mike pre

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Speaker 3: for the special teams coach. Not great, not.

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Speaker 2: Great, He'll turn it around. Things will get better. It

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Speaker 2: will all right. Here's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Fromagetti's on

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Speaker 2: X which is at Bucket Brooks Andy Furmann FSR eight

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Speaker 2: and that translates to eight seven seven nine ninety six

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Speaker 2: sixty three sixty nine. We've got the blame game ung

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Speaker 2: up in this era. And by the way, did you

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Speaker 2: know home is sweet for one NFL team? We'll tell

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Speaker 2: you who.

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Speaker 2: Our age is just a number that's right around the corner.

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Speaker 2: He is Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Furman, and we are

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Speaker 2: Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. Got the blame

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Speaker 2: Game in about twelve minutes and we're broadcasting live from

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Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios. But right now it's time

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Speaker 2: live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Now let's get

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Speaker 2: into this for a second right now, because the Packers

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Speaker 2: are playing the Broncos today. Packers nine three and one,

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01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 2: Broncos eleven to two game in Denver. And I said,

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Speaker 2: home is very sweet for one NFL team, that team

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Speaker 2: of the Denver Broncos. They haven't lost a home game

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Speaker 2: this year. Packers have a four game winning streak. Broncos

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01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 2: have the line, both the offensive and defensive line to

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Speaker 2: win it, and they will win it. And you talk

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Speaker 2: about coaching, Sean Payton's name has not come up once

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01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 2: at all for the Coach of the Year. We talked

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Speaker 2: about Mike Vrabel talking about Ben Johnson with Chicago. I'm

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Speaker 2: throwing Sean Payton's name in there. What do you think.

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01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 3: He deserves to be in there?

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Speaker 4: They've done a really good job He's done a really

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Speaker 4: good job with his team in terms of them to

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Speaker 4: do whatever they need to do. I think they've reled

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Speaker 4: off what ten straight wins. They've done it in a

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Speaker 4: variety of ways. They've won a lot of close games,

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Speaker 4: and when you win close games, that's due to coaching

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Speaker 4: understanding how to execute in those moments. Give him a

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Speaker 4: lot of credit because right now, I know he would

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Speaker 4: love to see a more explosive offense, But right now,

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01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 4: the offense that he has plays to the streams of

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Speaker 4: the defense, and so.

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Speaker 3: We haven't seen the high fline.

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Speaker 4: Act or the aerial acrobatics that we saw when he

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Speaker 4: was coaching Drew Brees down in New Orleans.

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Speaker 3: But what he has in Botnext is a.

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Speaker 4: Very steady young quarterback who understands how to manage the game,

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Speaker 4: makes the plays that are there to be made, and

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Speaker 4: it works.

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Speaker 3: It works for them, and at the end of the day,

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Speaker 3: the only thing you're trying to do is win the game,

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Speaker 3: no matter how you win it, and the Broncos have

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Speaker 3: certainly done that.

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Speaker 2: This year, the game will be one of the trenches,

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Speaker 2: and the trenches are going to be won by the

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Speaker 2: Denver Broncos. And I love Sean Payton. You know why,

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01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 2: because he likes Skyline Chile. When he coached the New

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Speaker 2: Orleans Saints, he would ask me to send him Skyline

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Speaker 2: Chili and in return, he'd go on the radio with me.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I like Sean Payton. I didn't want

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Speaker 2: it to be Coach of the Year.

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Speaker 3: How do you like that?

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Speaker 2: That's my take on. Have you had Skyline Chili?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't say that. I'm the biggest fan of it.

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Speaker 3: No disrespect the Skyline I did. I went to one

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Speaker 3: of those on a corner. It's good.

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Speaker 2: You know who loves Skyline Chili. Also Lincoln Kennedy because

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Speaker 2: when he came to Cincinnati with the Raiders, we went

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Speaker 2: to Skyline. He tried, he loved it. I think he

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Speaker 2: had about four dishes of it. Oh, Lincoln's big, Lincoln's big.

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Speaker 4: It's not so much how big you are. I would say,

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Speaker 4: it's the stillness of your your your guts. Your guts

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Speaker 4: have to be at a way, at a place to

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Speaker 4: kind of handle all day in your belly. I don't

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Speaker 4: know if I'm tough enough. My stomach doesn't have forty

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Speaker 4: two to be able to handle it.

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Speaker 2: I would I would say this when I see snow

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Speaker 2: like I'm seeing right now, and I think of Lincoln

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Speaker 2: Kennedy because I remember the game was in Denver and

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Speaker 2: they were throwing snowballs at the Raiders and it hits somebody,

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Speaker 2: but Lincoln ran into the stands and beat the living

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Speaker 2: daylights out of some guy. It was great. I mean,

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if that's on the internet or not.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it is, but you could look up Lincoln Kennedy

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Speaker 2: because it was wonderful. I mean, I just that doesn't

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Speaker 2: happen anymore, really, it really doesn't. But God bless him.

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Speaker 2: I love Lincoln Kennedy. He's my guy.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: You know Big Link, don't you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know Big Link Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: He's good Man, good Man. All right. Now, here's the

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Speaker 2: story of the day.

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Speaker 1: This is it.

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Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts are playing at Seattle. Seattle's ten and three

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Speaker 2: Colts eight and five, and the story is Philip Rivers

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Speaker 2: is starting today. He's a grandpa. He's forty four years old.

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Speaker 2: I love it. Philip Rivers is starting today. All right.

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01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 2: They were down at the quarterback number three. They signed Grandpa,

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Speaker 2: forty four year old Philip Rivers. Look the question I

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01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 2: have I think it's great. It's gonna be must CTV.

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Speaker 2: I gotta watch it. He's been out of the game

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Speaker 2: for five years. But wasn't there anybody else besides Philip

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Speaker 2: Rivers they could sign?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think here's the thing, and people have

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Speaker 4: missed this. Shane Syking and Philip Rivers have a long relationship.

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Speaker 4: Shane Styken worked with Philip Rivers with the Chargers. They

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Speaker 4: run the same offense like, so he knows the offense

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Speaker 4: like the back of his hand. In fact, there were

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Speaker 4: reports saying that Shane Styke and Philip.

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Speaker 3: Rivers were on the phone each and every week.

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Speaker 4: Talking because in high school where Philip Rivers was coaching,

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Speaker 4: he was running a variation in the version of the

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Speaker 4: offense that the Colts run, So there's that familiarity with

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Speaker 4: scheme Philip Rivers. The only thing I really worry about

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Speaker 4: is just when you've been away from the game for

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Speaker 4: five years. Physically, I just worry about him. So I

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Speaker 4: worry about like soft tissue injuries. I worry about what

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Speaker 4: we saw from Daniel Jones the Achilles because you're not

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Speaker 4: quite ready or in shape to do what it is

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Speaker 4: that you're gonna be asked to do, but he will

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Speaker 4: help them in this way. His ability to know what's

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Speaker 4: happening at the line of scrimmage will be different. He'll

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Speaker 4: be able to get them in the right play. He'll

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Speaker 4: be able to help them in the run game. Make

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Speaker 4: sure that the running.

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Speaker 3: Game is off.

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Speaker 4: You will see a bunch of screens from the colts

1473
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 4: ball to get out quickly and those things.

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Speaker 3: So managing the game.

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Speaker 4: They probably get an improvement, but physically it could be

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Speaker 4: a downgrade, just in terms of like his lack of mobility.

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Speaker 2: I would say this though I saw what Joe Flackall

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Speaker 2: did for the Bengals. It's the power of the human spirit.

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01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 2: I think it lifts up the rest of these guys.

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01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 2: I think that they want to see these players want

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Speaker 2: to see a grandfather grandpa show these twenty somethings on

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01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 2: the other side of the ball something about power of

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01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 2: the human spirit. I mean, just gonna come back and play.

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01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,679
Speaker 2: You know, people love and they want to see old

1485
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 2: guys making young guys look foolish and silly. They really

1486
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 2: do go back now. In sports, George Foreman reclaimed a

1487
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 2: heavyweight championship when he was forty five. Jack Nicholas won

1488
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 2: the sixth and final Masters title at forty six. Tom

1489
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 2: Brady won his seventh and final Super Bowl at forty three.

1490
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 2: Gordy Howe scored fifteen goals and passed for twenty six

1491
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 2: assists in an NHL season that he finished at fifty two.

1492
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 2: At fifty two, Tom Watson was a put away from

1493
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 2: winning the British Open and his Knife Major when he

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01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 2: was fifty nine. I'm rooting for you, Philip Rivers. Just

1495
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 2: don't get hurt. Just don't get hurt. I'm rooting for you.

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Speaker 2: I love you.

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Speaker 3: Just said and done. He just said and done. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're right, yeah crazy phll Rivers.

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Speaker 2: Well back, let's go back back in twenty twenty. Last

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01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 2: season they said he was washed up, No way. They

1501
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 2: went eleven and five. He threw for forty one hundred yards.

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01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 2: He threw for twenty four touchdowns, and that a wild

1503
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 2: card playoff lost to Josh Allen in the Buffalo Bills.

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01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 2: Rivers threw in that game for three hundred and nine

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01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 2: yards and two touchdowns. I mean, this guy is on

1506
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 2: the cusp of the Hall of Fame, and now that

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01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 2: he's playing today, if they win and ian he hangs

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01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 2: on for a little bit. I think it's going to

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Speaker 2: put some some memory factors back in these voters heads saying,

1510
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 2: you know what I forgot about Philip Rivers. I mean,

1511
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 2: here's a guy right now that he's throw for four

1512
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 2: hunditred two. I got his stats through for four unit

1513
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 2: and twenty one sixth on the old time list. He

1514
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 2: threw for sixty three thousand plus yards seventh on the

1515
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 2: old time list, twenty nine to fourth quarter comebacks more

1516
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,640
Speaker 2: than Joe Montana. I mean, here's a guy that is

1517
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 2: pushing the door open. He deserves to be in the

1518
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame before Eli Manning, and Manning's going to

1519
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 2: get in.

1520
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 3: You know that. Yeah, Manning's definitely going to get in

1521
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 3: his name.

1522
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 4: But here's what I will say, love of the game

1523
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 4: factor now for his Hall of Fame case, because he

1524
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 4: would have been eligible for the Hall of Fame because

1525
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 4: he's on the actor Roston, because he plays. He pushes

1526
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 4: that back where he has to wait another five years

1527
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:04,759
Speaker 4: after you retired.

1528
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, to do it.

1529
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 4: But it tells you that he doesn't really care about

1530
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 4: that stuff, Like he doesn't really care about that. He

1531
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 4: just love Baldy and I can appreciate that.

1532
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 2: I'm root for him and I'm gonna watch that game

1533
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 2: because of him. Otherwise I would never even turn that

1534
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 2: game on. Now, let me mention this one is another

1535
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 2: big one, another biggie. Today, the Detroit Lions on the

1536
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 2: cusp of being out of the playoffs, which I hope

1537
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 2: that's not happening. They're eight and five. They're going to

1538
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 2: LA to play the Rams. They're ten and three. The

1539
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:35,680
Speaker 2: Rams defense obviously he's better than the Lions. And the

1540
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 2: reason being, I mean half of those Lions defensive guys

1541
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 2: are on the shelf. They're all hurt, but they're just

1542
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 2: going to put the ball in Jamiir Gibbs belly, and

1543
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 2: I think they gotta get the job that. I'm pulling

1544
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:47,679
Speaker 2: for the Lions now. Now I'm thinking with my heart

1545
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 2: and I want my head in this game games in LA,

1546
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 2: but I'm still pulling for the Lions.

1547
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 3: That's a tough one. I think the Rams are better.

1548
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 3: I think the Rams are a better team. You know, Yeah,

1549
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 3: this is this is that's that's tough fun.

1550
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say this. I love the Rams spirit. I

1551
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:10,600
Speaker 4: love how competitive they are. They tend to be at

1552
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 4: their best when they're backed into a corner. I just

1553
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 4: think the Rams are better. So I'm gonna go with

1554
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 4: the Rams.

1555
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 3: In this one, right.

1556
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to see Dan Campbell not

1557
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 2: getting in the playoffs. Really, and all of a sudden,

1558
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 2: the Boo Birds what they did to Mike Thomin, They're

1559
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 2: gonna start doing the Dan Campbell And it's not his fault,

1560
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:27,799
Speaker 2: it really, I mean.

1561
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 3: It is, No, it's still far. He still gets. Yeah,

1562
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 3: he still gets to blame you. Yeah, yeah, you can't

1563
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 3: excuse him for for those things. But yeah, like he

1564
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 3: still gets he still gets to wear Where are some.

1565
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 2: Of that help me out here? I had a big

1566
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,600
Speaker 2: argument with somebody this week. Okay, he had me on

1567
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 2: a on his local show and he's talking about like

1568
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 2: he's he used to quote Zach Taylor got out coached.

1569
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 2: You know, I said to him, I said, explained him,

1570
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 2: what does that mean out coached? The game is is

1571
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 2: based on personnel, So so explain to me. And I know,

1572
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 2: Bucky you you would. You wouldn't have the answer to this,

1573
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 2: you would. I mean, how does a guy get out?

1574
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I understand usually gonta be your timeouts early

1575
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 2: maybe and you need it at the end of the game.

1576
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 2: Does that mean you're out coach? What does it mean?

1577
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 2: I hear that term all the time. Announcers are really

1578
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 2: quick to throw out terms and they don't even know

1579
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 2: what they mean. They really don't. I watch these games.

1580
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 2: The keys to the game did the same keys every day.

1581
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 2: Every game is just saying don't turn the ball over,

1582
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 2: but it being but right, that's what they do the

1583
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 2: keys to the game. Forget about keys to the game.

1584
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 2: I want to know about how how what does it

1585
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:37,560
Speaker 2: mean when they say coach A out coach coach B.

1586
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 2: I don't get it.

1587
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 4: Help me, I would say, I would say that there's

1588
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 4: some schematics in those things that can can play a

1589
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 4: big part of it in terms of how you go

1590
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 4: about your business, do you look like, do you have

1591
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 4: the proper adjustments?

1592
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:57,639
Speaker 3: All of those things.

1593
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 4: So there certainly are some things they kind of play

1594
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 4: to it. So I do believe you can get out

1595
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 4: coached in terms of like, hey, they didn't look like

1596
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 4: they were prepared.

1597
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 3: For this scheme and that scheme whatever. It's rare, but

1598
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 3: it does happen.

1599
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 4: So there are times where you can say, hey, we

1600
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 4: just weren't prepared for we got out.

1601
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:15,639
Speaker 3: We got out coached.

1602
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 2: Well, you know, in other words, they don't they aren't

1603
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 2: going to film of the opposition, is that it?

1604
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 4: I mean, no, they just do something that you're not

1605
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 4: prepared for. You don't have an answer for something that

1606
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 4: they just shows up that you just you just don't

1607
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 4: have an answer for. You can't figure it out. You can't,

1608
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess that's the best way to say.

1609
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 4: You just can't figure out how they got it done

1610
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 4: on you.

1611
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 2: Right, Just year they fool you. That's it, you know,

1612
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,400
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1613
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Speaker 2: do it. Let's play the play game. It's all your fault. No,

1641
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 2: it's your fault. Why did all your faulty?

1642
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 1: Maybe it's everyone's fault, the liar. That's why there's the

1643
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 1: blame game.

1644
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:24,639
Speaker 2: The blame game.

1645
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:25,679
Speaker 1: Let's figure out.

1646
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 5: Who to blame the blame game.

1647
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,679
Speaker 2: Are you ready, Brandon, Let's do the blame game, Baby,

1648
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 2: Let's do it.

1649
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 3: Let's do it, all right?

1650
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 2: Who's to blame?

1651
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 5: And we already touched on this a little earlier, but

1652
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 5: the Sharon Moore scandal, I know we're gonna say Sharon

1653
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:45,679
Speaker 5: Moore is to blame. But Michigan's gotta have they knew

1654
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 5: about it. The recruits still signed allegedly they knew about

1655
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 5: it before. Who's to blame in that scenario?

1656
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 3: The AD?

1657
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:55,640
Speaker 2: Who's gonna let fuck it go?

1658
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 3: First?

1659
01:16:56,920 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 4: Well, I think everyone is responsible. Like so Turmore doesn't

1660
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 4: operate in a silo, like he has bosses, and if

1661
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 4: the boss is new ahead of time, then they're responsible.

1662
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 4: So it goes up to chain, he goes up to

1663
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 4: the AD, up to the president or whatever like. He

1664
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 4: is a big representative of the program. And so if

1665
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 4: those things are going on, and if everyone knew where

1666
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 4: they're talking about, this was a known thing, then everybody's

1667
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 4: to blame.

1668
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 2: I tell you, I got a different take on that. Okay,

1669
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:24,599
Speaker 2: and then maybe it's way off base, but I will

1670
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:27,680
Speaker 2: tell you this much. They said it was an inappropriate relationship,

1671
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:29,640
Speaker 2: all right, I get it. I mean, I know what

1672
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 2: the rules of the school were it's obviously inappropriate that

1673
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:35,640
Speaker 2: he's married, But is it inappropriate that if a philosophy

1674
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 2: professor dates a math professor. I don't know the true

1675
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 2: rules of the University of Michigan, but I will say this, relationships,

1676
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 2: and I mentioned it earlier today are usually a pair

1677
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 2: two people. And allegedly Paige Shiver Shiva Shiver, Paige Shiver

1678
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 2: is a woman in question. She was an executive assistant

1679
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:58,680
Speaker 2: to the coach at Michigan, so obviously she knew the

1680
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 2: rules too. She could have said a coach, we ain't

1681
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 2: doing this, all right, you're a married man. I put

1682
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 2: a lot of the blame on page Allegedly it's her,

1683
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 2: So that's my take on it. And then obviously, if

1684
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 2: the coach is fired for breaking the rule, she should

1685
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:13,559
Speaker 2: be fired too.

1686
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I mean that's a fair point.

1687
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 5: The chiefs with the loss today will miss the playoffs.

1688
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:21,640
Speaker 5: We've talked about this as well. But who's most to

1689
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:23,759
Speaker 5: blame for their inconsistent offense?

1690
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 2: Well, that's easy. I'll take this one first. That's dead

1691
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift because she's killing Travis Kelsey. I mean really,

1692
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen the production of Travis Kelly. Look,

1693
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 2: they don't have a running game. We've talked about that

1694
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 2: at nausean. I mean, they need a runner and they

1695
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 2: don't have a running game, so they rely on Patrick

1696
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 2: Mahomes and in the passing and Travis Kelsey has really

1697
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 2: dipped and why staying out late traveling around. Look, I

1698
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 2: applaud you. I hope you have a tremendous wedding and

1699
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 2: a great life. But you're a football player now, and

1700
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:56,560
Speaker 2: Taylor let him play football. I blame Taylor Swift. She

1701
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 2: hasn't heard a concert tour, but she heard his football play.

1702
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 4: You're flaming, flaming Taylor Taylor Swift for their offensive wor Yes, yes,

1703
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 4: I will blame I will blame Andy Reid and Brittleach

1704
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 4: just because they haven't figured out the way to get

1705
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 4: the right pieces around Pat Mahomes, from the offensive line

1706
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 4: to the UH playmakers around him.

1707
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 3: It just hasn't worked.

1708
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 4: And they've thrown I Look, I can't blame them for

1709
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:25,719
Speaker 4: not throwing resources at the problem.

1710
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 3: It just hasn't worked out.

1711
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 2: And so.

1712
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:30,679
Speaker 3: I'll say those people are okay.

1713
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 5: Well, if the Lions missed the playoffs, which is very possible,

1714
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 5: if they lose to the ramps today and increasingly likely.

1715
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:40,839
Speaker 5: How much do you blame the loss of offensive coordinator

1716
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 5: Ben Johnson, who's now at a lot of success on

1717
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 5: the Chicago Bears.

1718
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a that's a big part of it. Yeah,

1719
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 3: if he's I mean, I think you have to put

1720
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 3: it on him, Like he was a big part of

1721
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 3: that offensive puzzle, how they got it done, what they

1722
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 3: were able to do offensively, the cre creativity while still

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01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 3: being rough and rugged. Yeah, he was a big part that.

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01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 4: And when they try to replace him with John Morton,

1725
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:08,679
Speaker 4: it didn't work out to the point where Dan Campbell

1726
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 4: had to take over play calling.

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01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:12,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll say a lot of it is Ben Johnson factor.

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01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 2: Well, you could blame Ben Johnson all you want. I

1729
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:17,799
Speaker 2: blame the management of the Detroit Lions. They're too stupid

1730
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:20,599
Speaker 2: to realize how valuable Ben Johnson was. And I should

1731
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:22,679
Speaker 2: have put a close in his contract. You can't leave.

1732
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 2: You got a five year deal here be you can't leave.

1733
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 2: And I want to see that happen somewhere in sports.

1734
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 2: You can't leave. We're gonna pay you like a head

1735
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 2: coach because you're that valuable. You let him go. I

1736
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 2: understand everybody wants to be a head coach one day.

1737
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 2: But you know what, he's pretty damn valuable and they

1738
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 2: just should have locked him up at least for three

1739
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 2: to five years. Pay him as much as Dan Campbell,

1740
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 2: make him associate head coach, then do something, be creative.

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01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 5: I blame the Lions, all right, we got a few

1742
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 5: seconds here, Notre Dame will not playing a bowl game.

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01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 3: Who do you blame?

1744
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 5: And why quick one here from both of you.

1745
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 2: They're too pompous. They're a pompous organization. That's why.

1746
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:00,680
Speaker 3: I mean, they're being bad because they didn't give what

1747
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:04,639
Speaker 3: they wanted today. After that, there we go. That's great,

1748
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 3: that that was quick that.

1749
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:08,559
Speaker 2: We want to thank you so very much, Brandon. You've

1750
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 2: done a wonderful job. Really, we used to have a

1751
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 2: woman doing that job for us. I forgot her name already.

1752
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 3: She's gone, oh my gosh, you got breed. You forgot breed.

1753
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 2: All right, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Merry Christmas to one

1754
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Speaker 2: and all, and we'll see you next week right here

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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. Stay tuned for Harmon and Cosel