Speaker 1: Before listening, ask a doctor if your heart is healthy
Speaker 1: enough for Dallas Cowboys football. He's Hanging with the Boys,
Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star
Speaker 1: in Frisco. Now your host Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and
Speaker 1: Shannon Gross. Who we Boys? We got football tonight? Yes,
Speaker 1: we do. The NFL season kicks off. We get to
Speaker 1: watch it counts tonight is for real? Yes, you know
Speaker 1: what else counts? We got a special guest in the studio.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get right to it. We don't didn't recognize
Speaker 1: a special guest. Can you tell them who he eels?
Speaker 1: He is none other than Jonathan Cooper. How are you
Speaker 1: doing today, Jonathan Coop? Bumping up? Man? Coop? What you
Speaker 1: go by? You go by Coop? What's your nicknames? Uh? Coop? Jonathan?
Speaker 1: When I was younger, John John, try to try to
Speaker 1: stay away. Let it go. You know you podcast in
Speaker 1: the world seeing John John. Well, we try not to
Speaker 1: ask too many football questions on the show. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna ask a couple, get them out of the way,
Speaker 1: and then we just really want to get to know
Speaker 1: who you are, what you're all about, what you like
Speaker 1: to do, outside of football things like that. Nate's the
Speaker 1: football guy, all right, and I probably I probably won't
Speaker 1: even go deep into it, but I will ask you
Speaker 1: this right here, and I will make a statement. In
Speaker 1: your pads you look much bigger and it ain't the black,
Speaker 1: I promise you because I'm looking at Wow, how much
Speaker 1: do you way? If you don't mind me asking? Waiting today?
Speaker 1: At three or four? Three or four? You didn't get
Speaker 1: fined this? Oh no, no, okay, man, that's a lean
Speaker 1: mean man. I couldn't walk through the way scale when
Speaker 1: I was thirty dollars. Do you know? We just get
Speaker 1: five dollars a pound of to a certain amount. Then
Speaker 1: it went web up there. I spent a lot of money.
Speaker 1: What's the most you ever paid? Five? Man? Probably six
Speaker 1: seven hundred dollars? Wow? Yeah wait, yeah that was brother.
Speaker 1: I walked in camp about three seventy five. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So, but uh, we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: this quickly. Get past it. You came in camp. First
Speaker 1: of all, this guy was first round pick. Tell us
Speaker 1: about that first. I'm gonna let you do that. Tell
Speaker 1: us how you started out? Yeah, where'd you grow up?
Speaker 1: Where'd you go to high school. Don't go that something. OK,
Speaker 1: how you got into this league, man, We're from it,
Speaker 1: and how you got into it? Attended the University of
Speaker 1: North Carolina, red shirted, stayed all four and a half years.
Speaker 1: UH had the potential to leave early with our coaching
Speaker 1: staff switching over, but promised my parents I get my degree.
Speaker 1: U twitched to a spread, no huddle, got down to
Speaker 1: about two eighty, and I feel like it was pro
Speaker 1: style the first few years. Got down to two eighty.
Speaker 1: Showed I can move, I can still pull and move people,
Speaker 1: but got out of space. UM. Fortunately got drafted in
Speaker 1: the first round, seventh pick. UM go to the Arizona
Speaker 1: Cardinals and it was a decently slow start for me,
Speaker 1: but as a preseason's progressed. I playing some of my
Speaker 1: best ball. H third preseason game, make it through about
Speaker 1: the first half. The coach wasn't pleased with the offensive performance,
Speaker 1: so he tells the starters to go back in and
Speaker 1: that's when I break my leg. Break my leg the
Speaker 1: third preseason game. UM it keeps me out my entire
Speaker 1: rookie season and then from there. UH, it's been sort
Speaker 1: of an injury riddle deal. And UH, this within the
Speaker 1: past year, bounced around to a couple of teams, went
Speaker 1: to New England. I was starting there touring my playing
Speaker 1: a fashion and then I end up at Cleveland and
Speaker 1: then now right now, and so what I'm trying to
Speaker 1: get to now he was in he's in a he's
Speaker 1: in a battle right now for for the for the
Speaker 1: left guard spot. We can't reveal that to you do
Speaker 1: the fact that you know Jason Garret got up football
Speaker 1: season football, But man, glad to have you here, and
Speaker 1: I wanted people to just know that little factor. What
Speaker 1: I wanted to really talk about, Kurt was this guy
Speaker 1: was one of the most highest rated guys coming out
Speaker 1: of Carolina for he opens running in an open space,
Speaker 1: getting on block to maintain it, and it kind of
Speaker 1: slowed them down over the past few years due to
Speaker 1: the injuries. Now, how do you feel, man, I see
Speaker 1: sometime when you get into the second level, you get
Speaker 1: the real quick then sometimes seems like you struggle it.
Speaker 1: But do you do you still feel the effects of
Speaker 1: the lingering of some of the injuries that you had.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the case. I think it's a
Speaker 1: matter of just continuing to progress in the working to
Speaker 1: understand just just finish the play, finish the block. You know,
Speaker 1: sometimes it's not about not having the mentality to finish,
Speaker 1: it's about positioning yourself so you can finish. If you're
Speaker 1: glancing off with somebody or not on the right angle,
Speaker 1: you can't finish them no matter how hard you try.
Speaker 1: And you can push themself on whatever, but you're not
Speaker 1: gonna finish them. So I feel like that's one of
Speaker 1: the benefits here is getting that coaching and critiquing. One
Speaker 1: of the big things that coach Pollock always says to me,
Speaker 1: the footwork matters, The details matter. Is not street ball right,
Speaker 1: and you know some people get offended, but I realized
Speaker 1: that I'm seeing improvement and that's the biggest thing, just
Speaker 1: to be able to do make it look the same.
Speaker 1: And you know, when there's so much going on the
Speaker 1: other side of the ball, just if you're doing the
Speaker 1: same thing, you can handle whatever they're throwing at you.
Speaker 1: So that's my big thing, just really working on continue
Speaker 1: to get in those positions so I can finish, Okay,
Speaker 1: battling that guard. Lena got it, So, yes, center, is
Speaker 1: that is that something new for you or you've done
Speaker 1: it before in the past. I've done it briefly in
Speaker 1: the past, right right. Uh did it one summer, I
Speaker 1: believe twenty ten at UNC and I did pretty good
Speaker 1: at it. But first game against LSU, first time I
Speaker 1: ever playing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a load and I
Speaker 1: don't know at that point if I was mentally ready
Speaker 1: for it. So there are a couple of plays. I
Speaker 1: put my left hand down on the ball so early. Um,
Speaker 1: so they took me out for a little while, then
Speaker 1: put me back in in the last quarter and I
Speaker 1: played some great ball. But for the rest of the
Speaker 1: season I was left guard, you know. So, I mean
Speaker 1: they're on professional teams. I've done some snapping, but no,
Speaker 1: not too much of it. Man, hey man, thank you
Speaker 1: for having you great you're talking about coach Pollock and
Speaker 1: some of the techniques and getting all that. You've been
Speaker 1: in some different offensive line rooms, different teams. Have you
Speaker 1: had it's different here? Have you had to learn new techniques?
Speaker 1: How's it been like for you coming into this room. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know a lot of people have their own techniques,
Speaker 1: and um, I've just found that this in this system,
Speaker 1: if you do what your coach, the other guys around you,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be doing what their coach, and you will
Speaker 1: see the benefit of it. Um even something as small
Speaker 1: as not rushing to get off a block on the
Speaker 1: first level, if you fit it right, like you know,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, you got to you gotta blow him up
Speaker 1: off the ball, and then you gotta get to your
Speaker 1: linebacker where it's here. It's patiently getting there violently, but patiently,
Speaker 1: and then together you'll move him off the ball. You
Speaker 1: don't need the necessary initial blow and then you can
Speaker 1: be patient, let the linebacker the side and then come
Speaker 1: off on it. So I mean, just some some little things.
Speaker 1: That sounds hard to be patient an offensive line. How
Speaker 1: are you patient on offensive line? It's just a matter
Speaker 1: of standing your fit on the blocks and the moment
Speaker 1: that you have to trigger and get off to the
Speaker 1: second level. It's right now. You want to be right
Speaker 1: now and have the proper technique done them. See because
Speaker 1: what he's saying in high school, and I use the
Speaker 1: running back position in high school, a running back beat.
Speaker 1: He's so much better than everybody. So he he know
Speaker 1: the hole is on off the right tackles, but he
Speaker 1: don't care if he don't see it right away. He
Speaker 1: can go anywhere and stretch it. In college, you have
Speaker 1: to kind of lean towars the hole a little bit more.
Speaker 1: In the pros, you better be going towards the hole
Speaker 1: because they thinking you're coming back. You jerked back all
Speaker 1: of a sudden. You may cause them and going to
Speaker 1: a spastic hole and all of a sudden, like, man,
Speaker 1: why do you need why you didn't give us an opportunity?
Speaker 1: Now you made that linebacker. Now they don't have a
Speaker 1: decision on the linebacker. You made it for him. They
Speaker 1: want to make a decision on that linebacker. They can
Speaker 1: give you a good, proper lane. Best running backs going
Speaker 1: to do that and help them look good. I feel
Speaker 1: left out of that conversation. Lineman't go up, that's right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, so where'd you grow up? Man? I grew
Speaker 1: up on the East Coast. Woman to North Carolina. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's nice. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, gonna go back
Speaker 1: there after football, Lord knows where I'll be. My goal
Speaker 1: is to have a beach house out there on rights
Speaker 1: for a beach hurricane standby. I think they're all right.
Speaker 1: I think they had a little scared maybe a few
Speaker 1: months ago, but I think they're good to go. That's
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's hometown, right it is. That's another guy that
Speaker 1: he looked around. Is that guys general Patting? Man? That
Speaker 1: ain't that? Ain't God? What do you do? Man? You?
Speaker 1: When I see you around, You're always smiling, You're always laughing.
Speaker 1: You seem like you have just a cool demeanor. What
Speaker 1: do you like to do outside of football? What are
Speaker 1: your hobbies? You know, spend time with friends, family. I'm
Speaker 1: a I'm a big talker, so I don't I don't
Speaker 1: spend too much time alone. If I am, I'm calling,
Speaker 1: calling my brothers, calling my sisters, calling my best friends,
Speaker 1: or you know, play some video games. I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not a good sports video gamer. It takes it
Speaker 1: takes too much of the cerebral going on. I'm just
Speaker 1: like on the tail. So I do like the shoot
Speaker 1: shooter games and stuff like, that's your favorite shooter game? Oh?
Speaker 1: Probably call a dude. Okay, you play with any of
Speaker 1: the other guys on the team, I'm not yet know.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of gamers on the team, David Irving,
Speaker 1: but he played some weird stuff. I believe it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you say you don't like to be alone, so that
Speaker 1: means I know you got some sweethearts somewhere something oddly enough,
Speaker 1: I do eight favorite questions? Do I do now have
Speaker 1: a girlfriend? She's a very sweet young lady. Okay, I
Speaker 1: mean brothers and sisters. Yeah, I'm the youngest of five. Wow,
Speaker 1: sweet man, I'm the biggest one. Uh my brother who's
Speaker 1: right above me. He's a tall and skin He's been
Speaker 1: the ladies man his whole life. And you know, so
Speaker 1: he was my hero and he loved sports and I
Speaker 1: already says he's my number one fan. Everything I know
Speaker 1: just about well early on stuff he taught me. And
Speaker 1: I feel like at times, you know, he loves the
Speaker 1: game so much that after a game, he'll come to me.
Speaker 1: I'm not, well, how did I do? Because I know
Speaker 1: he's gonna tell me anyway. I call him coach Cooper.
Speaker 1: I'm like, how did I do? And he's like, let
Speaker 1: me start, But you did good? But mind you, he's
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. But could you could have played Lord?
Speaker 1: You could have been more physical here. And I saw
Speaker 1: this one play and I'm like, okay, Coaching, I gotta ask,
Speaker 1: though you're a tar heel at heart. Your brother went
Speaker 1: to NC State, right? I did I do have a brother? Yeah?
Speaker 1: How did that. How does that work? Um, I mean
Speaker 1: that's rivalries there, Oh it is. It is one of
Speaker 1: my best friends from high school. We're still keep in
Speaker 1: close contact. He went to NC State, so it's a
Speaker 1: love hate thing. We both spent a lot of time
Speaker 1: at each of the other university and had a good time.
Speaker 1: But I mean, no, I can't stand what was that
Speaker 1: like playing foot I mean you're in the heart of
Speaker 1: basketball country there? What was that like playing out of
Speaker 1: school where basketball is king? I tell you what it was.
Speaker 1: It was kind of tough sometimes those seasons when you
Speaker 1: start off four or no and then you have like
Speaker 1: a for half full or three quarter full stadium, that
Speaker 1: was pretty disheartening. Or you got a noon game so
Speaker 1: people haven't shown up yet. So it was tough. And
Speaker 1: when I had the opportunity to leave a transfer, I
Speaker 1: was like, hmm, I wonder what would be like to
Speaker 1: go to one of these football schools and experienced that. Well,
Speaker 1: I tell you what, Sunday night at seven thirty, that
Speaker 1: stadium is not gonna be half full, is gonna be rocking,
Speaker 1: It's gonna be awesome. We know you're gonna be there.
Speaker 1: I know you gotta get grow grab lunch, get some
Speaker 1: lifts in and stuff. We will get you out of here.
Speaker 1: But man, we really appreciate you coming on the stream.
Speaker 1: John think hope. Hopefully we can do it again this season.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna take a quick break, get Jonathan out
Speaker 1: of here. When we come back, we're gonna talk some
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Speaker 1: We're back at the Star in Frisco. Nate Newton, Kurt Daniel,
Speaker 1: Shannon Gross. Just had Jonathan Cooper in studio. He's a
Speaker 1: fun guy. Man, he's a fun guy. It's great. I
Speaker 1: look forward to talking to him some morrow. Yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: have to a little bit rush because uh, the season
Speaker 1: starting a couple of days a few days till game day.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to keep him in here too long.
Speaker 1: Wanted them to be able to go eat and get
Speaker 1: back in there with the media. We'll try to get him. Wait,
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Speaker 1: describe the way it makes you feel, and yeah, pull
Speaker 1: them up outside on the outside of no gripping, no cupping,
Speaker 1: silky smooth up and throw me out of the room.
Speaker 1: Nah No, I just be like, wow, here we go
Speaker 1: that kind of show. Huh, here we go? I'll leave
Speaker 1: you and Shannon in here by yourselves. Well tomorrow, I
Speaker 1: want to get your opinions on what we think this
Speaker 1: team is gonna look like record wise. Today, I kind
Speaker 1: of want to. I want to go over a few
Speaker 1: individual guys and talk through what each one of you
Speaker 1: think success this year looks like for them based off
Speaker 1: of kind of what they've done in the past, kind
Speaker 1: of what tools they have around them now, and and
Speaker 1: what we think going forward. And then we'll talk about
Speaker 1: what do we think that success looks like for this team.
Speaker 1: And then I want to get into um some coach
Speaker 1: Garrett talk and see if what your opinions are on
Speaker 1: you know, is there a scenario where he's on winds
Speaker 1: up on the hot seat this year? Or does he
Speaker 1: get a free pass all year? He can hit him
Speaker 1: in the face with a shovel and he keeps coming back.
Speaker 1: Thanks coach Ay, But uh, can I'm just quick analysis? Quick?
Speaker 1: Uh not analysimook quick update on the injury report for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and the Giants. Can we haven't sent it
Speaker 1: out today? Yeah, everybody practiced for the Cowboys yesterday except
Speaker 1: except Hitch Hitchens, right, yeah, everybody you know? So yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody but Jordan Lewis was limited. Yeah, he was limited,
Speaker 1: but I'm not speaking anything for him Noway, sir, the
Speaker 1: only one's out from the Giants for Beckham and Keenan Robinson,
Speaker 1: the linebacker. Yeah, it'll be interested to see if, hopefully
Speaker 1: it'll come on the TV. It came on the TV
Speaker 1: yesterday while we were on the air, um to see
Speaker 1: if Beckham practices. He did not practice yesterday. So I
Speaker 1: haven't heard any word. Have you seen anything, Curt If
Speaker 1: he's I thought so, let me I don't think he did.
Speaker 1: Let me double check. Okay, well you looked at you
Speaker 1: look that up. Let's get into a couple of individual
Speaker 1: players on the on the cowboy side, Beckham did not participate.
Speaker 1: Oh that changes things a little bit. He just makes
Speaker 1: you worry a little bit. He'll he'll a gamer. I
Speaker 1: think he'll show up. He'll be out there. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: big dolls bark Man, Big dolls bar he popping at
Speaker 1: the end of the chain right now. I'm serious. You
Speaker 1: said something yesterday about a contract, you know what. I'm
Speaker 1: hoping that play a big part. And really I'm really
Speaker 1: hoping it plays a big part, but not not in
Speaker 1: a positive light. As if it plays in a positive light,
Speaker 1: we could be a little bit of drama to look
Speaker 1: forward to. No practice on Thursday, so I guess that'll
Speaker 1: be a game time decision that'll drive some fantasy football
Speaker 1: owners a little nuts. So let's get into individual players.
Speaker 1: Let's start with with with the man Dak incredible year
Speaker 1: last year. UM thirty six hundred yards, twenty three touchdowns,
Speaker 1: four interceptions, two against the Giants, two against the Giants.
Speaker 1: Fifty percent of his interceptions were against the one or
Speaker 1: four point nine quarterback rating. I'm not expecting him to
Speaker 1: have that great of a year that that to me
Speaker 1: is one of the weirdest, craziest, most awesome things to
Speaker 1: witness from a rookie quarterback ever. And I don't see
Speaker 1: how he can match those numbers. You've got, you have
Speaker 1: even more tape out on him, you have. You know,
Speaker 1: they're they're gonna loosen up the offense a little bit,
Speaker 1: I believe around him, and it's gonna create, you know,
Speaker 1: opportunities for bigger plays, But I think it's also going
Speaker 1: to create opportunities for for more mistakes. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a bad year by any means, But
Speaker 1: what success for him. Is anything less than what he
Speaker 1: did last year a failure? Or or does he have
Speaker 1: to be better than last year for a second year
Speaker 1: to be successful. We don't think, Kurt. I almost think
Speaker 1: he has to win. As long as he's winning. Amen, Amen,
Speaker 1: thank you, Kurt, thank you. That's gonna be his Nate's
Speaker 1: over here throwing the holy water on Kurt. That's gonna
Speaker 1: be how he's judged. I think so. Not stats losses.
Speaker 1: You know, as long as he's not throwing every two
Speaker 1: touchdowns the interception, now you don't you don't need that.
Speaker 1: You don't need thirty five touchdowns sixteen interceptions. I mean,
Speaker 1: you don't play too many raggedy games, but thirty five
Speaker 1: touchdowns ten or less? You don't want to win despite
Speaker 1: of him. Yeah, as long as he's solid, consistent. He
Speaker 1: hates to turn and use the term bus driver. But
Speaker 1: as long as he's not making a bunch of mistakes,
Speaker 1: I mean not and wins and he's had a good year.
Speaker 1: And how many games does he have to win for
Speaker 1: this follow up sophomore season to be considered a success?
Speaker 1: Does you have to win thirteen games? No games? No? No,
Speaker 1: the league, the league, the league, automatically makes it where
Speaker 1: it's gonna be difficult the next year until you proving
Speaker 1: that you're you're elite. He's just proving that he's good.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's elite, Peyton Manning is elite. Uh. The guy
Speaker 1: at uh the Saints even though they don't have enough
Speaker 1: defense that he's elite. It's a difference now. Philip Rivers
Speaker 1: to me, is elite. You know. They they do numbers
Speaker 1: regardless of who's on their team. He this kid is
Speaker 1: just good right now. Being interesting to see the situation
Speaker 1: running back, how much it might affect him and how
Speaker 1: he performs. Man, Kurt Man, you should you ain't played
Speaker 1: no ball. He just listened to the show. Yes, And
Speaker 1: that's what it's all about. Man, the things around him,
Speaker 1: and I tell people to me, he's like Troy Troy.
Speaker 1: Troy was not He's gonna go out of his way
Speaker 1: not to throw interception. He was gonna get everybody involved.
Speaker 1: He didn't change plays unless he truly had to because
Speaker 1: he wasn't about the numbers and that and that's all
Speaker 1: that matters, because the numbers will take care of herself.
Speaker 1: In a passing league, the numbers were taken, how many
Speaker 1: yards he threw for last year the beer uh three thousand,
Speaker 1: six hundred and sixty seven, and he didn't and then
Speaker 1: he didn't have more attempts he had. His averages chemps
Speaker 1: was way down compared to the league. Yeah, so uh,
Speaker 1: he was efficient and he made it happen, and so
Speaker 1: uh his success is not just predicated on what he
Speaker 1: can do. I grew with curtain and what other intelligent
Speaker 1: people say. It's predicated on what zeke offensive line and
Speaker 1: Kim and you know what, it really happen if we
Speaker 1: can get some turnovers and he can go twenty yards
Speaker 1: thirty yards or forty yards forty five and less yards
Speaker 1: a couple of times, you know, say over a three
Speaker 1: game period, if we can have that happen maybe four
Speaker 1: times where he just had to go forty five yards.
Speaker 1: When a quarterback can go in the fielding hand it
Speaker 1: off boomed in its flaxspat booming, hits twenty five yards
Speaker 1: touch now, but the world opens up to him. Then
Speaker 1: let's go on to deaz Dez. We'll go balls out
Speaker 1: with dead. Let's go balls out with him and missus
Speaker 1: Jones every time he called him and cost him a
Speaker 1: little something. That's right. I love buddy. You know what,
Speaker 1: I was a cash for more now. Two thousan twelve
Speaker 1: he had thirteen hundred yards. Two thirteen, he had twelve
Speaker 1: hundred yards. Two fourteen, he had thirteen hundred yards. Twenty
Speaker 1: fifteen he had four hundred and one. Two sixteen he
Speaker 1: had seven hundred and ninety six. I don't feel like
Speaker 1: Deaz has been completely healthy since two thousand and fourteen,
Speaker 1: and I feel like this year, I think he's back
Speaker 1: one hundred percent healthy. I feel like he had back problems.
Speaker 1: I feel like he had. I don't think that back
Speaker 1: issue he had whenever he landed weird. I guess I
Speaker 1: don't remember who that was against a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: I think that's been bothering him. I think he This
Speaker 1: is just my opinion. I haven't talked to any doctors
Speaker 1: or anything, but I feel like he's healthy this year,
Speaker 1: and I think anything south of a thousand yards this
Speaker 1: year with the running back situation with he's got some
Speaker 1: help now. You know Beasley stepped up last year. You've
Speaker 1: got witting, old, reliable, and you know you've got Terrence back,
Speaker 1: You've got Bryce that can stretch the field. Anything. To me,
Speaker 1: I'm expecting another thirteen hundred yards season out of death.
Speaker 1: And that's my personal opinion. I think anything less than
Speaker 1: a thousands of disappointment. Where do you, guys, Land and Kurt,
Speaker 1: if you say for every one of these just win,
Speaker 1: that's how you measure this is gonna be a boring
Speaker 1: game with and Dad's. I think Dad's is a better
Speaker 1: route runner. I think he's more in tune with his
Speaker 1: quarterback this year. Last year they were hurt, he was hurt,
Speaker 1: and so they never got to to love on one another.
Speaker 1: This year here you you you see in practice way
Speaker 1: they had a chance to connect and be consistent. Dad
Speaker 1: to me seemed to have ran better routes and and
Speaker 1: we saw that in camp a lot. And if you
Speaker 1: run routes because this kid, unlike Tony, where Tony can
Speaker 1: improvise a lot hand singers and look at you, this
Speaker 1: kid demands that you you look at the coverage and uh.
Speaker 1: And they seemed like Dad's is a little more in
Speaker 1: tune to that, and he's running better routes. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think everything is gonna be a nine route.
Speaker 1: Let's go up in the air for it. I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna be some you know, like we saw a
Speaker 1: slant during the preseason, so I mean, come on, let's
Speaker 1: rock and roll. Now, I'm with you. Which rock and roll?
Speaker 1: We talked about this before that Yeah, in the preseason
Speaker 1: that back shoulder face, Yes, sir, he threw that though.
Speaker 1: I think you could have got him to get that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I know, yo yo Joe. That's that's that's a new
Speaker 1: that's a whole new toolbox that he has this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he had last years. What do you think, Kurt?
Speaker 1: But coach talked about in his press conference today, they
Speaker 1: asked him about Dez and he said the same thing.
Speaker 1: I hate to cut you out. We want to know
Speaker 1: what Kurt, thanks for getting well laying him. I want
Speaker 1: to know what coach said. Well, he mentioned basically what
Speaker 1: Nate said that, Um, he's healthy, He's had all offseason.
Speaker 1: He was healthy all off season, was able to work,
Speaker 1: and he's specifically able to work with Dak and build
Speaker 1: up that um relationship there where they work better together.
Speaker 1: So he's healthier and he's more in two in this quarterback.
Speaker 1: I think a thousand yards season and ten touchdowns is
Speaker 1: definitely doable. I think they need him to do that.
Speaker 1: If he let's say, the first game. If he can
Speaker 1: average a touchdown a game, and I'm just throwing something
Speaker 1: out here, don't hope with me to this. If he
Speaker 1: can average a touchdown the game right around anywhere from
Speaker 1: eighty five to one hundred and ten yards a game,
Speaker 1: it's over. It's over. They already have to deal with
Speaker 1: him in certain situations, you know, because they got the
Speaker 1: Dad's rules on every team, and and and what this
Speaker 1: game Jenkins, Gnoris Jenkins gonna tell us as Dad's learned anything,
Speaker 1: because normally when Dad's get up against a top notch
Speaker 1: upper epstelon corner, he tends to struggle because he gets
Speaker 1: into the mental battle. It's not that they stopping him.
Speaker 1: Is they talking to him? He normally gets off into that.
Speaker 1: That would tell you a lot, right, that would tell
Speaker 1: you a lot. The Giants and yeah, Jenkins, he had
Speaker 1: one catch for eight yards in the first game, right,
Speaker 1: and one catch for ten yards in the second game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And now they give him help, they get jenkings up. Now.
Speaker 1: They don't ever think, you know, I used to be
Speaker 1: like when when Mike used to play and we used
Speaker 1: to go up to filling they had this big long
Speaker 1: corner and I liked leeve. Mike, you know, wow, man,
Speaker 1: your numbers ain't what Nate. They're giving him help in
Speaker 1: the story. I'm like, well, help, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: Help you? Mike Irving? You know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: when when you look at the film and you see
Speaker 1: that safety just easing over there, that quarterback seeing that too,
Speaker 1: he and the quarterback is going somewhere else? How much
Speaker 1: did You've probably been asked this before, but do you
Speaker 1: see a lot of that Irving and das that inspirational
Speaker 1: type raw rock guy on the team. He's learning, See,
Speaker 1: Mike came a little more mature and how to deal
Speaker 1: with people than Dad's. Dad's his background. Dad's never had
Speaker 1: to deal with other grown men people that's on his level.
Speaker 1: And so I think when you know he getting heighted
Speaker 1: custom he you know, he he motivated himself, but he's
Speaker 1: also trying to motivate others. Everybody ain't any responsive to
Speaker 1: to full out the words and you know, the ms
Speaker 1: and the ELFs and like man o bro you know
Speaker 1: and my deal. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: he's learning that when he go to certain people now
Speaker 1: he's like, hey, man, we gotta pick it up. We
Speaker 1: gotta do boom bom boom, boom bom boom. You know
Speaker 1: he's learning how, you know, how to be that leader job,
Speaker 1: learning how to talk to people, deal with people, get
Speaker 1: people to act a certain Yeah through his action. Now
Speaker 1: he still has this blow up. Yeah, he'll look at
Speaker 1: Twitter gom. You know, member of the Young Lady has
Speaker 1: the ESPN show came at him on the m on
Speaker 1: the deal about you know, uh, the little racial deal,
Speaker 1: and how he responded so calmly, right like, you know,
Speaker 1: how I have a right that you know, you know,
Speaker 1: to do my thing high do him, you know, talking
Speaker 1: about standing the anthem. Yeah, so that right there, man.
Speaker 1: And I went up to see I want him to day, Man,
Speaker 1: I like how you handled that? You know I did
Speaker 1: because normally we knew it. That is what it did
Speaker 1: two years ago. Sho. He just said some bad things. Man,
Speaker 1: But you know he looked on to see him. Man,
Speaker 1: I like, how you handled that? Man with the Young
Speaker 1: Lady that ship, Well, that's sweet. You know you know
Speaker 1: what it reminds me of. Reminds me of a guy
Speaker 1: that used to be really passionate and used to fight
Speaker 1: all the time as a kid and had raw talent.
Speaker 1: And then when he realized that he's a bad enough
Speaker 1: man that he doesn't have to fight anymore, that I
Speaker 1: don't have to constantly prove himself, doesn't have to prove himself.
Speaker 1: He knows who he is. It's calm, right, he's calmed,
Speaker 1: and you know, usually the quietest one in the rooms,
Speaker 1: the baddest one. Yeah, I feel like Daz is like, Okay,
Speaker 1: don't sleep on me this year. Just watch. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: show you. I'm not gonna tell you about it. Just watch.
Speaker 1: He's leaner. You know, he leaned out, looks good. He's
Speaker 1: leaned out and like he'd done drunk some vinegan water man.
Speaker 1: It took all the fat out of his body, and
Speaker 1: he's relied out, relaxed. You know. Mike Irveys looked like
Speaker 1: dried out. Just look, Mike, Mike, he looked like old
Speaker 1: crispy piece of bacon. Let's say. In the wide receiver category,
Speaker 1: Terrence Williams two thousand, fourteen, let's go twenty thirteen. His
Speaker 1: uh rookie year, seven hundred and thirty six yards, twenty fourteen,
Speaker 1: six hundred and twenty one yards, twenty fifteen, eight hundred
Speaker 1: and forty yards and a lot of people thought last
Speaker 1: year was going to be his breakout year. He was
Speaker 1: gonna be a legit, solid one two punch with Deaz
Speaker 1: and he regretted a little bit. He had five hundred
Speaker 1: ninety four yards, He had fewer receptions than he did
Speaker 1: the year before. Where does he fit in? Does he?
Speaker 1: I look and this is just my opinion of Nate.
Speaker 1: You tell me what you think. You've watched a lot
Speaker 1: of film. I look for Bryce to step up and
Speaker 1: challenge him for that number two spot at some point
Speaker 1: in the year. They're a little bit different of a receiver.
Speaker 1: I know that. I know Bryce is a little bit
Speaker 1: more of a speech or Terrence is a little bit
Speaker 1: more of a possession. Guy talked about it the other day.
Speaker 1: Bryce just needs to catch the ball. If he puts
Speaker 1: it together and starts catching the ball. Is Terrence stay
Speaker 1: your number two? Or does Bryce have a chance to
Speaker 1: move into that role? Or they two completely different receivers
Speaker 1: and they are what they are. And see, I was
Speaker 1: getting ready to say when you said, what do we
Speaker 1: thought about about Terrence? And the first thing I want
Speaker 1: to say, tell me how good Bryce Butler does. And
Speaker 1: that's gonna keep Terrence right where he needs to be
Speaker 1: on edge and ready to go. You can like, I
Speaker 1: can like you to death, I can love you to death,
Speaker 1: but man, you compete for the same position and your
Speaker 1: game is stepped up. I know mine got to step up.
Speaker 1: It's just how it go. And you haven't really heard
Speaker 1: a lot about Terrence in camp or or priests Eason.
Speaker 1: He's just been catching the ball, doing his thing, being consistent,
Speaker 1: and that's not a bad thing being heard from. I
Speaker 1: don't think in this offense he's the number two receiver.
Speaker 1: But to me he's the third or fourth option. I mean,
Speaker 1: you've got Beasley written and Beasley, they're they're really going
Speaker 1: to be more of the key components in the offense.
Speaker 1: I think. And you know Williams Campole in five or
Speaker 1: seven hundred yards and yeah, you know, yeah, if he
Speaker 1: could five four had four touchdowns last year, he had
Speaker 1: eight in twenty fourteen. If he got eight touchdowns this year,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's to me, that's a great I mean,
Speaker 1: the averaging about might have had something to do with
Speaker 1: the transition from Romo to Dak. Also, I think Romo
Speaker 1: looked Terrence is way more. Uh just went through that
Speaker 1: progression to his point when he caught that ball in
Speaker 1: Seattle and drug his toes on that four down. Romo's like,
Speaker 1: that's my guy, Yeah, let's go throwing the ball. Terrence
Speaker 1: has definitely shown flashes of some really great plays. And
Speaker 1: Terrence caught Romo's final touchdown pass last year. Oh nice
Speaker 1: little piece of trivias? Is that last year? Last year?
Speaker 1: Did he play last year that one? That one game
Speaker 1: pre season? Was that Philly? Right? Yes, he came in.
Speaker 1: Oh that's right at the end of the very okay,
Speaker 1: yeah it was you're right. Sorry, Yeah, it's great. That's
Speaker 1: a great that's a great trivia point, great trivia point.
Speaker 1: I was like, what what I was thinking about him
Speaker 1: being hurt? I was like, he got hurt before the
Speaker 1: season started. Speed. Let's let's talk about Bryce uh twoy thirteen.
Speaker 1: His rookie season, he had one hundred and three one
Speaker 1: hundred three yards twenty fourteen two hundred and eighty uh
Speaker 1: skipped to twenty fifteen two hundred and fifty eight yards
Speaker 1: last year two hundred nineteen yards on sixteen receptions. What
Speaker 1: do you guys look for him to contribute this year?
Speaker 1: And it goes back to what Nate said, can he
Speaker 1: catch the ball. Can he hang on to the ball?
Speaker 1: Is he the fastest guy among that group? When we
Speaker 1: were at camp, we talked to a lot of the
Speaker 1: guys and it was all my most unanimous that he
Speaker 1: was one of, if not the fastest guy on the
Speaker 1: team offense or defense. Can he do more than just
Speaker 1: sprint down the field on the ball? I think he can.
Speaker 1: Is in immediate routes, middle to long routes that I
Speaker 1: think he can he could run. I don't think the
Speaker 1: guys that you you know, want to run the short
Speaker 1: routes because he's not precise in that dude to the fact,
Speaker 1: maybe because he's tall, or I don't know if he
Speaker 1: works on it enough. But uh like, like, like we said,
Speaker 1: Bryce thirty five catches forty maybe at the best, same
Speaker 1: with him, you know, twenty five thirty catches. Take advantage
Speaker 1: of all of them, and he'll average around seventeen yards
Speaker 1: to catch if he take advantage of all of him. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He had three touchdowns last season, Yeah, get that from
Speaker 1: him again, and or brought up, dropped one or two.
Speaker 1: Should have had a couple more. That's been kind of
Speaker 1: his um criticism is he's, like you all said, he's
Speaker 1: hang on the ball. If he does that, Man, where
Speaker 1: all good things? Where are all these balls come from?
Speaker 1: We got all these guys balls out balls out balls
Speaker 1: out right, twenty five balls, twenty balls, thirty five balls. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's about right for these guys, you know, because Dad's
Speaker 1: gonna see the ball of them should you know. But
Speaker 1: it's gonna be games with Dad's is really getting double team,
Speaker 1: so he won't see maybe four or five balls, and
Speaker 1: that's where they can load up. You know, Beasily gonna
Speaker 1: get his Because I tell people I've said it from
Speaker 1: the beginning. If Dad's one hundred percent healthy during the season,
Speaker 1: I mean one hundred percent, rolling cold, Beasley gonna be
Speaker 1: lights out because who do you cover? You're gonna cover dads?
Speaker 1: You gotta put a guy on Terrence who covers Beasley?
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a cold bloody killer there. And aren't
Speaker 1: we hoping that Zeke's gonna get more involved in the
Speaker 1: passing game? No, hope, my friend, you know, hope you
Speaker 1: weren't at camp, but he he was. He looked like
Speaker 1: he looked like a wide out at camp. Some of
Speaker 1: the catches he was making over the shoulder, like straight
Speaker 1: over the back. Look at I mean it was because
Speaker 1: you look back at the early nineties and Emmett had
Speaker 1: a ton of receptions and see you know that Jason
Speaker 1: would like to go back to that kind of thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Jayson would like to go back to the
Speaker 1: Emmett that would would like to go back to that
Speaker 1: using that kind of skill set with a running back.
Speaker 1: I was like, wouldn't you're looking at how many plays
Speaker 1: a game? You're looking at a minimum sixty five on
Speaker 1: this offense here, so six to five? Yeah, And I said,
Speaker 1: we have her sixty to plays a game, and uh,
Speaker 1: you play sixty man, boys, there's a lot of plays.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of plays. Real quickly, go to break,
Speaker 1: let's move to the defensive side of the ball. Only
Speaker 1: a couple of guys here. I wanted to get your
Speaker 1: your opinions on them. We've talked about both of them
Speaker 1: before on the show. Tyrone Crawford. I think it we
Speaker 1: all kind of agree if he stays healthy that that's
Speaker 1: the main factor with him. Um, he's been deemed up
Speaker 1: you know for a couple of years now. If he
Speaker 1: stays healthy, what what is a successful year for him?
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it? Seven eight sacks? I think he
Speaker 1: can't get that many. I think he can if he's healthy.
Speaker 1: You know, he like like you said the other days,
Speaker 1: the King of almost almost got you true. I've always
Speaker 1: got the impression that in a perfect world that cowboys
Speaker 1: would rather have him inside. And so is he a
Speaker 1: true defensive end that can beat the guy on the
Speaker 1: on the edge regularly? Well that I'm predicating a lot
Speaker 1: off of Paya and Malik if these guys an getting
Speaker 1: the pressure. I know we missed to real mcclaim because
Speaker 1: he allowed Malik to flourish last year at a three technique.
Speaker 1: But if Pie can come in and get that same
Speaker 1: type pressure and demand that that center has to deal
Speaker 1: with him. Or we got David Irvin and pass the
Speaker 1: situations when he get back, you know that they have
Speaker 1: to deal with these dudes. Yeah, because the quarterbacks they
Speaker 1: can't go move up in the pocket. They can't step
Speaker 1: up in the pocket. When you can't step in the pocket,
Speaker 1: that that gives you the outside guys a chance to
Speaker 1: make their money. Yeah, and watch out for Malik because
Speaker 1: every guy we had on the show pretty much, I
Speaker 1: think there are three or four guys who's Who's who
Speaker 1: surprised you the most at camp three or four guys,
Speaker 1: Malik Malik's really impressed me during camp. That's that's good
Speaker 1: because he was impressed last year. Yeah, or at the
Speaker 1: end of the year, especially last one before we go
Speaker 1: to break DeMarcus Lawrence. What are we expecting out of him?
Speaker 1: Ten sacks? He's got to get ten, doesn't he? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I know he's gotten six or seven before.
Speaker 1: So well, I think he's a great pass for from
Speaker 1: the left side. But they got him started at the write,
Speaker 1: you know, so between him and been a male y
Speaker 1: and the young guy. So why do you think he's
Speaker 1: better on the left? I just see him rush better
Speaker 1: from that side. Now he gets the quality of the
Speaker 1: tackle n is. Now, it's the quality of what he does.
Speaker 1: He seems more fluid coming from the side. Think you
Speaker 1: think about how you talk on the phone. Do you
Speaker 1: talk on your left here or you're right here? Because
Speaker 1: one's more natural. Yeah, coming around one end, you feel
Speaker 1: more comfort. See a left defensive end in college. I
Speaker 1: don't know what he was. I'm not sure, you know,
Speaker 1: but he just looked better. And maybe because that's Tyrone
Speaker 1: versus Lyle sus, I could have a little bit. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Two two fifteen, he had eight sacks, so at least
Speaker 1: what he had in twenty fifteen, if not more, is
Speaker 1: what you're saying, double digits, Kurt, Kurt's throwing down double digits.
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Speaker 1: Back to hanging with the boys, Back again. Final segment
Speaker 1: of the day. Kurt Daniels Nate Newton. I'm Shannon Gross. You,
Speaker 1: I'm Shannon Gross, Your gross. I am gross Man. You
Speaker 1: know the jokes I had to live with have a
Speaker 1: girl's first name, Gross is my last I was always
Speaker 1: the littlest kid in class. Your parents have it up
Speaker 1: for your song. Either had to be real funny or
Speaker 1: try to be tough. You got you got buffed up
Speaker 1: now and you're a funny dude. Tried to I tried
Speaker 1: to be funny. I went the funny route. I was
Speaker 1: not a tough kid. I was a mama's boy. So yeah,
Speaker 1: here I am here. I am rocking like a hurricane.
Speaker 1: What are you guys doing this weekend? Watching football? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I watched football, y'all watching tonight? Oh yeah, you know
Speaker 1: some Patriots I watch. I respect Andrew Reid. I like him.
Speaker 1: I think you should have never leved Philadelphia, but I
Speaker 1: understand something. You need to change. A lot of things
Speaker 1: went on personally in his life he needed to change.
Speaker 1: I like what he does. He maximized. He maximizes his
Speaker 1: player's ability. Uh. I hate the Patriots, but I love winners. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I hate the Patriot of them because they ain't the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I heard, Uh, Roger Goodell is going to be at
Speaker 1: the Patriots game where they're unveiling the Super Bowl banner
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. I wonder how that's gonna go over.
Speaker 1: You know what? You know? Wow? The commissioner man, I
Speaker 1: mean the deals, the sponsorships that he bring in, and
Speaker 1: then the way he treats the players that helped bring
Speaker 1: in all this type stuff. I just it's kind of hard.
Speaker 1: F mean, you know, you notice I don't ever verbally
Speaker 1: attack him. I used to, but one of my guys
Speaker 1: that I really respect gout on to me. John Woody said,
Speaker 1: you don't do that. You know, he's he's still an authority.
Speaker 1: But well, it's just hard. He's probably not going to
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame like Pete Roselle did. Well you
Speaker 1: know what if he'll probably go as a visitor. It's
Speaker 1: just like, you know, that's it. That's such an interesting
Speaker 1: dynamic because he works for the owners, but yet it
Speaker 1: seems like he butts heads a lot with the owners.
Speaker 1: But he made he's made them so much money since
Speaker 1: he's been the commissioner. It's hard if you're an owner
Speaker 1: to you know, when you look at him, Oh man,
Speaker 1: you know they're renegotiating his contract and that, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think they already does where do you He's like, where
Speaker 1: do you sign? They're like, hey, you're gonna he sign
Speaker 1: this for you make us some mo money. We have
Speaker 1: to face someone such an interesting He got danged a
Speaker 1: little bit by Craft last year. Bradford's owner. He might
Speaker 1: good thing this year Bud Jerry. Those are maybe the
Speaker 1: two most powerful owners in the Morrows, the Rooney's the Joneses.
Speaker 1: And he's part of the concussion scandal. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think that was from Taglio Boo to Goodell that era.
Speaker 1: So that's not going to be good for him, just
Speaker 1: interesting dynamic all the way around. Let's talk about what
Speaker 1: a success for the Cowboys? What do they have to do?
Speaker 1: And I think this is a this is kind of
Speaker 1: a twofold question. One is what are the expectations of
Speaker 1: the fans? What do you have to do? What do
Speaker 1: you have to achieve to be successful in the eyes
Speaker 1: of the fans? And then what do you have to
Speaker 1: be kind of from an an analytical standpoint to be successful?
Speaker 1: And I think you definitely have to make it to
Speaker 1: the playoffs to be both of those. I think depending
Speaker 1: on how you make it to the playoffs, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think you need to win at least one game in
Speaker 1: the playoffs for the fans to think somewhat successful NFC championship.
Speaker 1: So so what was the question for the fans? I
Speaker 1: think there's two different standards. There's a there's a fan standard,
Speaker 1: are what are what are? They're gonna be disappointed if
Speaker 1: you don't win the Super Bowl either way around. But
Speaker 1: I feel like even though you lost the first playoff
Speaker 1: game you played last year, last year, I felt like
Speaker 1: the fans were happy and satisfied because you had zero
Speaker 1: expectation when the season started. You were coming in with
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback, your franchise quarterback went down, All hope
Speaker 1: was lost, you were praying for eight and eight. You
Speaker 1: wind up making it, getting the first round by anything
Speaker 1: after that's just gravy. So I feel like the fans
Speaker 1: expectations last year were way above and beyond anything they
Speaker 1: could have expected. I feel like this year, you've got
Speaker 1: to win at least one playoff game, and probably depending
Speaker 1: on how you lose in the playoffs, whether the fans
Speaker 1: are disappointed or not. Well, I don't know what the
Speaker 1: final thing will be, you know, but uh, that's a
Speaker 1: good question. Tomorrow. You know, we'll let some of the
Speaker 1: fans answer that one. Huh, it's good, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll yeah, we'll bring this back to Mars. We take
Speaker 1: some can we take some calls tomorrow. Man, We'll let
Speaker 1: some fans answer that. But you know, Kurt, I mean,
Speaker 1: you're a fan of the Cowboys. I mean, what's your inspectations, baby,
Speaker 1: we want to hear from YouTube General Patton, Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I want them to make at least the NFC Championship.
Speaker 1: We've seen this up and down. They have a good
Speaker 1: year and then they suck and you know, they make
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I mean, I mean strong for Kurt to
Speaker 1: use that word. Last two times they made the playoffs,
Speaker 1: they've been awful the next year just because the injuries
Speaker 1: or whatever. So they gotta get back into the playoffs.
Speaker 1: They gotta advance. They got to win a game or two.
Speaker 1: You know, of course the super Bowl everyone's goal and dream.
Speaker 1: But I think anything less than a victory or two
Speaker 1: in the playoffs is gonna be a disappointment to fans
Speaker 1: because we've been here before. We want to take that
Speaker 1: next Patton. Yeah, now I agree with that, and I
Speaker 1: think the I think if they don't do that, if
Speaker 1: it has something, if Zeke end up ends up having
Speaker 1: to serve six games and that has something to do
Speaker 1: with it, I think people will be more understanding. But
Speaker 1: when you go thirteen and three and have home field
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, and you go one and done like
Speaker 1: they did last year, like they had done with Romo
Speaker 1: in two thousand and seven, you know, it's been a
Speaker 1: long time since they've made a run deep into the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And the reason you stuck with Dak last year and
Speaker 1: didn't turn it back over to Romo as you thought,
Speaker 1: this is the next step, and so it's time to
Speaker 1: start stepping. I agree. You have you have one of
Speaker 1: the best receivers in the game. You have one of,
Speaker 1: if not the best running backs in the game. You
Speaker 1: have one of the best quarterbacks in the game. You
Speaker 1: still have one of it might be one of the oldest,
Speaker 1: but one of the best tight ends in the game,
Speaker 1: one of the best slot receivers in the game, and
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley. If you can best offense, there's no excuses
Speaker 1: on offense. You know, they're like, what's your excuse. You've
Speaker 1: got one of, if not the best, at every critical
Speaker 1: position on offense. It comes down to me. The defense.
Speaker 1: If you can get any kind of push out of
Speaker 1: your your your front seven, you need to top fifteen defense.
Speaker 1: There you go in you're yea, they get a major category.
Speaker 1: You need a top fifteen defense. Yeah, they don't, and
Speaker 1: I don't. They have to be good, you know, just
Speaker 1: decent even yeah, turnovers. But my my my issue is,
Speaker 1: well I'm a little bit different. I don't care how
Speaker 1: to get in the playoffs, wild card winning. I do
Speaker 1: not care. Just get there when you when you The
Speaker 1: challenge for them is they ex stressed on defense. Uh,
Speaker 1: you're playing a first praise schedule, and people say, yeah,
Speaker 1: they playing a first prase schedule, and we don't know
Speaker 1: what the defense is gonna do, and we know they're
Speaker 1: gonna be stressed in the secondary to these kids grow up,
Speaker 1: and we're hoping that see, because Nolan Carroll, you know,
Speaker 1: he's okay. I mean, it ain't like we got war
Speaker 1: or somebody from from from Denver, like, oh man, we
Speaker 1: got to row a ball, you know, Na, we got
Speaker 1: Nolan Carroll. And I'm not saying that a change of
Speaker 1: scenery is not good for him, and it may it
Speaker 1: may take him to the next level. We know that
Speaker 1: Scandrick can play, and he's full of health, and it
Speaker 1: made some good plays doing the deal. You know, Uh,
Speaker 1: Brown missed some time, so we're gonna be challenged Tyron
Speaker 1: Crawford and so I don't care how they get in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, just get in. And then by that time
Speaker 1: these kids have been on growed up, this defense've been
Speaker 1: on jail office line will know exactly who we are
Speaker 1: bar an injury and and uh and then and to me,
Speaker 1: once the defense grow up, and if we do lose Zeke,
Speaker 1: it don't matter to me. Then but if the if
Speaker 1: the defense don't grow up and we lose Zeke. You
Speaker 1: look and you mentioned, you mentioned the schedule that that's
Speaker 1: this schedule is no joke. Well, talk to us about it.
Speaker 1: Night Beer talked to us about the schu schedule is
Speaker 1: no joke. Talk to us and you said they're no joke.
Speaker 1: Run it down to joke. Well, okay, so you know
Speaker 1: they can't. They come out with the power rankings every week.
Speaker 1: Well who how they got his rank? Everybody has us
Speaker 1: around six to eight. Okay. The teams that they have
Speaker 1: above us, the majority of them are on our schedule. Um,
Speaker 1: just pulling up SI here they have the Patriots rank
Speaker 1: number one, the Packers number two, Steelers number three, the
Speaker 1: Falcons number four, Seahawks at five, Cowboys at six, and
Speaker 1: then Kansas City behind them, Raiders behind them, Giants behind them.
Speaker 1: I was listening to radio show to day it was
Speaker 1: brought to my attention, and this is the truth. It's
Speaker 1: two teams that everybody's expecting a lot of and the
Speaker 1: offensive lines are not very good. That's the Giants and
Speaker 1: that's Seattle. I'm not kidding that. They ain't making no sense?
Speaker 1: Are they basing that solely off what they think the
Speaker 1: defense they have to carry out. They're thinking that if
Speaker 1: you score twenty one point, twenty four points, we got you.
Speaker 1: We can hold with teams down to twenty one. They
Speaker 1: they really believe that we'll see you. Man. It's almost
Speaker 1: the opposite of this team. If if the defense is
Speaker 1: just decent, your offense should be able to carry you.
Speaker 1: If your offense they're thinking, if the offense is just decent,
Speaker 1: can get us twenty one points. The defense can shut
Speaker 1: down the offense and carry us. But see that, that's
Speaker 1: where I'm That's where you know. I told people last year,
Speaker 1: and I tell you you got to have a dominant
Speaker 1: defense at least six times during the year. You got
Speaker 1: to because teams are going to equal you offensively. What
Speaker 1: travels is defense. And in the league today, where three
Speaker 1: points is a victor and where a situation of football
Speaker 1: is key coming down to stretch, we didn't answer that bill,
Speaker 1: and that killed us against Green Bay. People said, well,
Speaker 1: that's when that was a hell merry type play. But
Speaker 1: guess what who went to the next round? Who made
Speaker 1: the play? Yeah, and who went to the next round.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a Dallas Cowboys, it was it was Green
Speaker 1: Bay Packers speaking in the next round, There any scenario
Speaker 1: this year that coach Garrett's job is not safe. I
Speaker 1: don't even think that way. I really don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't even think that way. You're borrowing trouble on
Speaker 1: that one, you know. I just I'm in there, Douglas.
Speaker 1: That's why I said it. So you'd have an opinion. Hey,
Speaker 1: be on time, Kurt, you want to you're asking me.
Speaker 1: It is hard to imagine, I mean things, It's hard
Speaker 1: to imagine that the Joneses would sour on Jason. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess that could have worded in a different way.
Speaker 1: Has he earned enough trusb us with this team and
Speaker 1: he's finally seems like he's built this team or helped
Speaker 1: build this team with what he calls the right kind
Speaker 1: of guys, and they've built it with you know, offensive
Speaker 1: line up front first. This city, they sing it unless
Speaker 1: he loses the team in some way, if they turn
Speaker 1: on him. I'm just saying if he if he misses
Speaker 1: the player, if this team misses the playoffs, if he
Speaker 1: goes two and fourteen or whatever, that you don't have
Speaker 1: the hot seat for sure. But it's gonna have to
Speaker 1: be some things that go totally wrong. And that's and
Speaker 1: and and see me. I've been looking at it like, wow, man,
Speaker 1: we really concrete at our right tackle, if we really
Speaker 1: sided at our left guard. Last year, we down the defense,
Speaker 1: we talked about him. We said the offense had to
Speaker 1: score eighty points a game. Our defense played above and beyond.
Speaker 1: Once again, that is the challenge that we are ignoring
Speaker 1: as a as a cowboy nation. We're ignoring. We're gonna
Speaker 1: take for granted that Rob Marinelli gonna run on the
Speaker 1: field and play all the level position. It ain't happening it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: something would have to happen that's within Jason's control. That's
Speaker 1: horrible because it's hard and it's hard to imagine that
Speaker 1: anything like that would happen because he he I mean,
Speaker 1: I think he's a good head coach. I think he's
Speaker 1: good at what he does, and he's got a talented team.
Speaker 1: It's it could go that you could have a catastrophic
Speaker 1: season with things out of his control. And I think
Speaker 1: he's safe and I just wouldn't predict that things within
Speaker 1: his control would go bad. Even in twenty fifteen when
Speaker 1: there were four and twelve, I don't think Jason ever
Speaker 1: lost the room or was no, So I don't think
Speaker 1: he's I agree, and he's about as safe as any
Speaker 1: coach out there. Yeah, And it seems like one thing
Speaker 1: that this team is it's consistent. And I think that's
Speaker 1: got a lot to do with um Garrett's message and
Speaker 1: the way that he's done it. And what I mean
Speaker 1: by consistent isn't exactly exactly, but it's there's finally some
Speaker 1: some continuity with this. It's the show's over. I've lost
Speaker 1: control of the room, have lost control of the room.
Speaker 1: Let's do this, fellas tomorrow when we come back. Why
Speaker 1: don't we come back. Let's let's take some calls to yes, yep,
Speaker 1: we can do it, and then let's all break down
Speaker 1: what we think this team's record is going to be
Speaker 1: and how they're gonna finish in the division, and what
Speaker 1: we think their season is going to be. That'll be
Speaker 1: a fun little game. Yes, that worked for you boys? Yeah? Alrighty?
Speaker 1: Well for Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, I'm Shannon Gross. We'd
Speaker 1: like to take our special studio guest, Jonathan John John
Speaker 1: John John Cooper, don't call him that if you see him,
Speaker 1: John John's name, called him Net Douglas, Thank you for
Speaker 1: playing all the right drops today, can't Garrison, Thank you,
Speaker 1: Kent for pushing the buttons. Kurt, thanks for showing up.
Speaker 1: I'm on time. We need to redo that drop now
Speaker 1: that Kurt's the one day we will be back at
Speaker 1: you tomorrow. We're coming back at you at one five
Speaker 1: John again. We'll talk some football. Make sure you watch
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