1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Native Lamb Pod is the production of iHeartRadio in partnership 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: with Reason Choice Media. 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: Home, y'all to this week's mini pod. So we had 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: a great show on our main episode this week with 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: Cherylyn Eiffel, and it was so good that you guys 7 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: sent in all these questions and comments, we did not 8 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: get a chance to get to them. So Angela, Andrew 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: and myself were here to try to get to as 10 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: many as possible. But you know, sometimes you guys ask 11 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: these questions and you take us down a rabbit hole 12 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: because your questions are so great or your comments are 13 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: so insightful. So we're gonna try to get to as 14 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: many as possible. So let's not waste any more time. 15 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: Roll us a question, turn. 16 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 3: Up, Nick Peace, Native Land Family. Daniel Rant, just checking in. 17 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 3: Just wanted to say the last episode was super, super dope. 18 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 3: It spoke to everything that I'm on with intention, and 19 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 3: everything you spoke about in the episode spoke to me 20 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 3: as a new thing that I'm on. I wrote a 21 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 3: record called on Cold, and so everything you spoke about 22 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 3: to me was being on Cold. I would like to 23 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 3: know from each of you, what does on cold mean 24 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 3: to you? 25 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 4: Right? 26 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 3: And I think we will probably be aligned in our thoughts. 27 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 3: I would think, but what does that mean? Angela, Tiffany, 28 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 3: Andrew like, what does on cold mean? 29 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 5: You? 30 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 6: Guys? I love this because Daniel is truly native Lampid fam. 31 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 6: Many of you all know that he wrote our intro music. Daniel, 32 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 6: It's always good to see you. He is definitely part 33 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 6: of the family because he was like, Hey, y'all, since 34 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 6: I'm co hosting the show today, what is on now? 35 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 6: I don't know if you're saying on cold or on 36 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 6: is on cold? 37 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: Like Cood on cold, So I don't know what that means. Well, 38 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: because you're not on COLDE got it? 39 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 6: Definitely not on Code? 40 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 7: Which show were we talking about? That was that? 41 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: I think because he talked about Landy it could have 42 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: been that that show when we talked about Landy was 43 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: the designer, the black designer who we had on talking 44 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: about where we spend our money. But all of our 45 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: shows are on Code. I'm adopting it. 46 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 6: Because you know we about a cold. 47 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: Life, we about that on Code. We say that means? 48 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 6: Does that mean that he might be saying what you 49 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 6: were saying? On the last show tip, which was, you know, 50 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 6: there are certain things that should be for us, like 51 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 6: we should have our own cold. Like here's on code. 52 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 6: I got a perfect one, Andrew. You got to look 53 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 6: for this ready, y'all will know watch. 54 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: Yes Egg precisely. 55 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 6: You don't have to say, Andrew just on code. Yes. 56 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 7: Yeahbody in the community might not be on code if 57 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 7: they're not in. 58 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 6: The community figured out. 59 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: Right, And if I say something to you, you don't 60 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: really know what I'm talking about. I'm kind of looking 61 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: at you. Signway, so I have another one. 62 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 7: I have another one. 63 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: Okay, give us another. 64 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 6: One, Andrew. You have to look the problem. Part of 65 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 6: the issue is it is Andrew's writing a whole. I 66 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 6: don't know what you. 67 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: Doing, Andrew, what are you doing over there? 68 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 7: I was? 69 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 4: I was imitating uh, Angela during any normal recording. 70 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: I know Angela, you do, y'all. Angela does the same thing. 71 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: She always liked that. 72 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 6: Look at my notes. 73 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: I take you, okay, but you gotta get on cold. 74 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: You gotta get on cold. 75 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 6: I have to get on memory first, and then I'll 76 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 6: get on cold. Now here's my second encode moment. And 77 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 6: then you guys have to play your aids. I guess 78 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 6: that's what this is so sad for people who are 79 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 6: not watching it. I'll tell you what I'm doing afterwards. Okay, 80 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 6: so here's another one. Okay, see if you know what 81 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 6: I'm saying, obviously please Okay, So what I did was 82 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 6: a side I would like my lips pursed for those Well. 83 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: The first thing she did was like they have a 84 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: certain type of head nod. But it wasn't a head 85 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,839 Speaker 1: nod like Top of the morning to you. 86 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 6: It wasn't. It wasn't a yes, It was a yes, 87 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 6: flick that thing up like you do like head. 88 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 7: Yeah. It's like, yes, that statement is true, but you 89 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 7: don't follow it. 90 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 6: Oh you're talking back to the eyes. This is why 91 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 6: I back to the anyway, this is not going to 92 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 6: work for true. 93 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 7: That That was my interpretation of it. 94 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 4: It was like, yeah, you're sticking your head like uh huh. 95 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 4: We all know it's true, but you the last one 96 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 4: that should be calling it out because you don't do it, 97 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 4: you know, so like the person who's. 98 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 6: But that was something we we went back to the 99 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 6: to the head. 100 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: Not both of them. I think both of them are 101 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: on cold. You doing something else that's on cold. If 102 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: we were all together and any one of them got 103 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: up and started running. 104 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 7: Oh yes, God started running. If we running, the table's falling. 105 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 6: It's like, oh. 106 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, said got up? 107 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:49,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't. 108 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 7: Nobody get up? 109 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: Okay. I have a question for the viewers. What what 110 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: is on Cold to you guys? And it has to 111 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: be something that you can You can drop a video 112 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: if you want, or you can drop it in the comments, 113 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: because we've been saying that we were going to talk 114 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: about different phrases and dialects from different geographical regions. And 115 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: we have a wonderful book that we're going to use 116 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: to explore that. So stay tuned. That's going to be 117 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: on the minipop coming up. 118 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 7: What was his name? 119 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 6: And Jared Hill is Darren Hill? 120 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: This great book. It's on my coffee table. I love it, 121 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: So we will that's a future historical. 122 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 6: Historically black Dared Hill and Treville Anderson. 123 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: I love it. But for so we're gonna that's a 124 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: future episode. For now. I'm curious what is on Code 125 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: to you guys? It can be a gesture, It could 126 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: be something we say, but something that you know, like, oh, okay, 127 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: we're on COLDE. 128 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 6: Are we all together? Are we in unison? Are we 129 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 6: in alignment? Also, it's on code a geographical slang term, 130 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 6: because I really have not heard it before. 131 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: I've never heard that phrase before in my life. We 132 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: might I think. 133 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 6: Daniel's something to the left. I think Daniel's in Boston. Daniel, 134 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 6: what is that me? And you said I wrote a song? 135 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 6: He was like, I know we're gonna be all on 136 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 6: the same page, and I'm like, I don't know what 137 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 6: page were on, but I'm happy to turn it there. 138 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I think part of being on code is 139 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: knowing what anything means. That can mean being on colde. 140 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like you hip to it. 141 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: You know, you know what's up right right, what it is. 142 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: In the last episode when Trav was like go like 143 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: he just say go off Andrew, we said go off 144 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: Andrew or turn up Andrew. 145 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 6: Those mean the same thing. Nick turns Andrew's literal volume 146 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 6: up on the microphone, and Tips response to that was like, 147 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 6: I don't want everybody to know if it's called impact production. 148 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 6: I definitely want Nick to know. And I feel like 149 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 6: Nick can have an honorary black code, a black card, 150 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 6: especially during Wednesdays. 151 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 7: Nick. 152 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: During Wednesday's Nick gets a black card, but I mean 153 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: in general, because we put a lot of stuff out there. 154 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: But the thing about it is, we're so dope. You know, 155 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: we are a small percentage of the pocket reation. But 156 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: where we go, the whole world followed. 157 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 7: You know. 158 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 4: We control the culture. 159 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: We took things from Africa, curated them here, and they 160 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: made their way back to Africa with Black American spin 161 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: on it. So we really have We drive conversation, we 162 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: drive culture, and so I think there is some danger 163 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: to exposing that. But the thing is, we're a bottomless 164 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: bucket of culture and dopeness and especialists, you know, of 165 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: fashion and dance and you know the things that we 166 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,559 Speaker 1: carry with us on the boat. 167 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 4: So I you're come and made me think about centers, 168 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 4: that image of them. 169 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 7: There is that maybe the first and last time, but 170 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 7: it's okay, We're going to survive this. 171 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 4: Moves dances we were never even taught. We were not 172 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 4: in our physical form, weren't taught. But the spirit of 173 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 4: the ancestors being so powerful, the movements manifest them through 174 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 4: us in a different day time condition. That just shows 175 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 4: how connected we are as a people. But more over, 176 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 4: how what we do than influences how everybody else moves, Yeah, 177 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 4: you know, that's a powerful scene. 178 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 7: I loved it. 179 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 6: The thing that I thought about, and I don't want 180 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,239 Speaker 6: to bypass this tip because I think, in this moment 181 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 6: we're in, it is so important you reference. There's some 182 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 6: things that you're basically saying, I just want to keep 183 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 6: for us. And there is also since Andrew reference Sinners, 184 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 6: and we've talked about talked about slavery as recently as 185 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 6: our last episode, I think it is important for people 186 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 6: to understand, since history is now our responsibility to teach 187 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 6: white America, since they want to dismantle the Smithsonian, to 188 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 6: help them understand that some of what is on code 189 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 6: in our language are the things that preserved our lives, 190 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 6: the things that helped us find a pathway to freedom 191 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 6: during slavery. Songs and scriptures that were quoted we were 192 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 6: using to literally give us the navigatational tools to get 193 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 6: to freedom. And so there's something in you that's saying, hey, 194 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 6: you know, in an ancestral memory way in my DNA, 195 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 6: there's something here that I want to protect. And I 196 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 6: don't think that that's inherently wrong at all. I actually 197 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 6: think that that's very smart to protect some of those things. 198 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 6: But also if there are well meaning allies and they 199 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 6: have proved themselves to be well meaning allies, there are 200 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 6: some things that they probably need to know so they 201 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 6: can help us. Because the things, Yeah, because we know 202 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 6: her math on math, there ain't enough of us. Coalition 203 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 6: requires we are going to have to build in some ways. 204 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 6: But I do hear you on some things should just 205 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 6: be protected for the culture. 206 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, so maybe this might be one of them. 207 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 4: I had to text r J so I apologize for 208 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 4: the beings because she says this term. There was a 209 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 4: letter that came to the house that I was reading 210 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 4: and the girl was like you ate crumbs and left 211 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:49,599 Speaker 4: no no you? 212 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 7: And I said, what did you eat in front of 213 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 7: these people? 214 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: What? 215 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 7: Like why would she write that? And it makes no sense? 216 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 4: And then I went in to like chastise the writers, 217 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 4: saying like we don't teach our kids. 218 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 7: Any decorum anymore, like what's appropriate in a letter? 219 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 4: What isn't that? Jay was like, what are you talking about? 220 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 4: I was like this young you know, the dance guy. 221 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 4: She's like, you ate and left no crumbs? Like that 222 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 4: doesn't make sense to me, and you know and whatever. 223 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 4: And Jay's like, Andrew, it's a compliment. It's a saying 224 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 4: that young people have. 225 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 7: Well. 226 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: Also, I feel like that's such a disconnect from culture, 227 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: you know. 228 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 7: Like why you are in my life? 229 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: How are you so like because you are graduate, You're 230 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: in Florida around I. 231 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 7: Can be a graduate of any institution in Steel. 232 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: You live with j though, Like I don't. 233 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 7: She tells me all the time, why is it that 234 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 7: I never follow. 235 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 6: Old man inside of himself? 236 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 7: And I'm like, I think, like, I don't know your story, my. 237 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 6: Dad, and see if he knows what it means. 238 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 7: I've never heard that term before in my life. 239 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 6: I want to call I kind of want to call 240 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 6: a pop riety. See what he said. 241 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: Let's get to the next of your question. Because we 242 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: do what we said, we wouldn't. 243 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 6: Do another view of question. 244 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, how you doing a Native Lampard family. My name 245 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 5: is Jesse McCoy. I'm a clinical professor of law at 246 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 5: Duke University. But before that, I am a proud rattler 247 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 5: of Florida A and M where Andrew Gillen was my 248 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 5: SGA president. I have a question just about the pathway 249 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 5: to politics. We run into a lot of students who 250 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 5: either need to be involved in politics, or want to 251 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 5: be involved in politics, and I was just wondering if 252 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 5: there's an incubator of politicians or former politicians who can 253 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 5: advise those students about things like campaign finance and political strategy, 254 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 5: because I just have no idea how to even direct 255 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 5: them or where to direct them. Shout out to Angela, 256 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 5: rob and washing As you want see and then you 257 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 5: really did a great job representing for us Tiffany Cross 258 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 5: likewise on MSNBC, but even more so now on the show, 259 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 5: because I think you're the person that most relates to 260 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 5: how I feel in the current moment and wanting to 261 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 5: swing on people. 262 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: So Jesse, you ate and left no crumbs with that question? Uh, Andrew, 263 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: I mean you know when he was asking, I was 264 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: immediately thinking, do you want to say? 265 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 6: Do you want to answer Andrew? 266 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 5: You? 267 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 7: I'm sorry, I thought you were okay, Andrew. 268 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: Andrew did not eat and left all the crimes. 269 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 6: All the crimes. So since he left the crumbs, let's 270 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 6: eat him up. Tip they gonna let him cook, We're 271 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 6: not gonna let him cook. 272 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: Don't let them cook. 273 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 6: So so there are a couple of things I wanted 274 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 6: to acknowledge on the actual subject of the question one. Andrew, 275 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 6: you are my forever SGA president too. Even though I 276 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 6: didn't go to FAM. When Andrew left FAM, he joined 277 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 6: people for the American Way, and I learned something called 278 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 6: the Young Elected Officials Network that not only pulled young 279 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 6: electeds together and gave them a home to strategize, to 280 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 6: think through how to become better leaders, but also really 281 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 6: developed an on ramp for them to run for higher office. Sadly, 282 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 6: one of the biggest failures of that program is Kirsten Cinema. 283 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 6: I digress that he's had many more successes. She also 284 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 6: did not eat and left all the crumbs tip. But 285 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 6: we also have the CBC Institute's boot Camp, and then 286 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 6: Collective Pack runs a program for folks who want to 287 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 6: run for office and who also want to run campaigns. 288 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 6: So I do want to just tout that there are 289 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 6: entities that are doing this work. We could always use more. 290 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 6: Mississippi Black Leadership Institute NBLI is one that has pumped out. 291 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 6: If you guys go through and look at the state 292 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 6: and local elected officials in Mississippi, there are a ton 293 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 6: of black folks and that was not by mistake. It 294 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 6: was with great intention. So Andrew I always want to 295 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 6: give you the opportunity to shout you out for the 296 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 6: work that. 297 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 4: You've done while you and I'm going to talk about 298 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 4: the specific program that I founded at People for Underneath, 299 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 4: the Young Elected Officials Network that did this campaign training, 300 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 4: and I turned away to look on my other computer 301 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 4: to research whether or not it still exists, and twenty 302 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 4: years later, the Frontline Leaders Academy is still going strong. 303 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 4: If y'all remember when we were with Jamal Bryant and 304 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 4: he said thank you for the letter of recommendation from. 305 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 7: My wife Carrie. 306 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 4: Carrie went through this program, the Frontline Leaders Academy, and 307 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 4: at the end of it was the person chosen as 308 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 4: the most likely to be the candidate running for office. 309 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 4: She adn't run yet, so I'm gonna have to remind 310 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 4: her when I see her in Atlanta this weekend when we're. 311 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 7: Up there y'all, that she was a part of this program. 312 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 4: But it's an excellent program that trains young people and 313 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 4: all people interested in run for office or being part 314 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 4: of a campaign apparatus. What it means to be a candidate, 315 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 4: campaign manager, finance director, field organizer, communications sists the core 316 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 4: competencies of what are required and it is of course 317 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 4: housed that people for the American Way Foundation based in 318 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 4: d C. And then sorry, update on the message I 319 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 4: just said, I told you she said the quote was 320 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 4: you ate, and I then later told you it was 321 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 4: you ate and left no crumbs. So what I was 322 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 4: responding to initially was you. 323 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 7: Ate and no context. I had no clue what the meant. 324 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: And you probably loses black cart. 325 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 7: I lose a black cart, but I ain't gonna win 326 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 7: no cards for what's in the in the in the 327 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 7: social media. 328 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: At you got your black cart, but you losing your 329 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: own cold card. We got one last question that we 330 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: have time for, and I want to try to get 331 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: it in. So let's hear from this viewer. 332 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 6: What's up. 333 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 2: This is Craig again and coming out of Brooklyn, just 334 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 2: sitting on my stoop enjoying these last days of summer. 335 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about all the things that are happening 336 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 2: all around the country, especially in DC, where you know, 337 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 2: folks can't sit out on any stoopid like I'm doing 338 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 2: right now, just. 339 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 6: Enjoying life. 340 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 2: In a moment. And I just want to say, this 341 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 2: is just a reminder to find those small moments that 342 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: bring you joy because things are pretty chaotic right now, 343 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: and I'm just hoping everybody is taking the time to 344 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: find joy. 345 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 6: Love you guys, hopeball as well. 346 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 3: This is Craig Peace. 347 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 4: It's just the guy who, after he asked this question, 348 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 4: y'all would like he find him a lot of dates 349 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 4: from that first Rag was like, I'm coming. 350 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 7: Back and I'm just gonna sit back on the stop 351 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 7: he ate he. 352 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: Ate And he left no crumbs. 353 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 6: He was I couldn't even see him today. He had 354 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 6: a holy spotlight on him. Today. 355 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 7: We're gonna have him turn around the next time and 356 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 7: then make the. 357 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: I do appreciate the messages find those moments of joy. 358 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: So if you guys, do you have any closing thoughts 359 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: on what you're doing to find those moments of joy? 360 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,479 Speaker 6: You know, I was when we were on last week. 361 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 6: I mentioned that I had a friend who like tragically 362 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 6: passed in a car accident, and I think there are 363 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 6: these moments where you realize how fleeting life is. You know, 364 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 6: there are other moments where my mom, as she goes 365 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 6: through chemo, she is constantly assessing like the fullness of 366 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 6: her life and whether it is indeed complete. Uh, And 367 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 6: you kind of contrast that with people who probably are 368 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 6: not expecting to go. And so the reminder is no 369 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 6: matter where you find yourself, even if you do think 370 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 6: you have tomorrow, especially you know, where as we're like 371 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 6: younger and your age, you get older, you think you're 372 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 6: in you think your parents are invincible, at least some 373 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 6: of us may. But I just I think that the 374 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 6: constant reminder is like we can choose joy in the 375 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 6: midst of everything that's going on. We can find those 376 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 6: pockets and hopefully lean into them. And that is the 377 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 6: greatest lesson I've learned from watching my mom and even 378 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 6: from losing Teddy last week. So that's what I would say. 379 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 7: I love that, Andrew, do you have I would say 380 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 7: I'm probably increasing in my comfort, probably to a level 381 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 7: of discomfort for those around me and all the things 382 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 7: I don't know and I don't care that I don't know. 383 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 7: You know how sometimes you're like you're not hip to 384 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 7: something like we have just had with. 385 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, this is just shade me and Angela. 386 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: That's not joy. 387 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 7: It is joy. It is joy. It's joy in the 388 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 7: sense that I don't and you don't know a thing 389 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 7: and you don't care anymore like a lot of dance 390 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 7: at the at the at the at the thing, you know, 391 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 7: the who was who? 392 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 4: What's the name of the organization? And every city that 393 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 4: has a party on Saturday night. 394 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: People, I remember that. 395 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, day nights, I can't remember. 396 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 6: It's it's Friday night. 397 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, Like the line dance, I don't want to know 398 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 7: the newest one and I don't even want to know. 399 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 6: Come on, Andrew, and. 400 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: That's right, that that was your joy? That was fine? 401 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 1: Enjoy that you don't know. 402 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 7: Fine, yes, I need enjoy that. 403 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 4: You don't have the pressure of wanting to have to 404 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 4: learn it. 405 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: Fine, fair enough moments of joy, I will tell you 406 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: right now, I feel incredibly so much angst. I mean, DC, 407 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: it just is right outside my window, just everywhere you know, 408 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: a Union station is literally like tanks outside. It just 409 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: looks so ridiculous and unnecessarily so. So as I'm watching 410 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: us like trans transcend to this police state, it's uh, 411 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: just I don't know. I I'm in a constant state 412 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: of unrest. So my moments of joy is just when 413 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: I can calm down. And how I calm myself down 414 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: is inhale and then I exhale and however, you need 415 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 1: to inhale and exhale. I recommend you do that. I 416 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: mean breathing exercises for sure. Yes, and I am trying 417 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: different new types of therapy too. That part, that last 418 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: part is legit above board. 419 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 6: Goes high and also is trying the therapy is a 420 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 6: very important thing. The great thing. 421 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: You don't go I will I almost exactly exactly. Well, 422 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: thank you guys for tuning in to this mini pod. 423 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: If you happen to be in Atlanta, we will be 424 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: at investment in Atlanta. I mean, you know, you may 425 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: be hearing this after we've left Atlanta, whenever you decide 426 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: to listen to Native Land Mini Pod, but we will 427 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: be headed to the a so we may see you there. 428 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: But please be sure to tune into these mini pods. 429 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: You know, we have our main episode that drops on Thursdays. 430 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: Mini pods drop on Fridays. You can catch Angela solo 431 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: pod most Tuesdays except on those very precious days that 432 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,719 Speaker 1: we're very happy to see her get some rest. So 433 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: thank you guys for tuning in. Please share this, spread 434 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: the word, get on cold and tell people about Native 435 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: Land Mini Pods, because that's the part of me and 436 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: how we how we ate and left no crumbs, and 437 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: how Andrew didn't cook. 438 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 6: I want to I want to apologize to y'all because 439 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 6: if this is really how I look in the podcast, 440 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 6: what Andrew is doing, I'm sorry. I'm not doing that. 441 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: You do look like that all the time. 442 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 6: Well, I'm so sorry. I'm going to work on it. 443 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 6: I really apologize, especially if it's happening, yeah, because i'd 444 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 6: be taking those But if it's happening and it's triggered. 445 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 7: Just that device working away, it's something more important. Conversation 446 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 7: is not true. 447 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: It only happens well, viewers, let us know what you 448 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: all observe. 449 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, please, I'm sorry. 450 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: Let us know what y'all observed. But this is also like, 451 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: you know, cut up so you don't always see Angel 452 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: on camera. We all see each other the whole podcast. 453 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 6: Which is frustrating. 454 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, if I had something shady to say to Andrew, 455 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: I would, but I'm not as quick as. 456 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 6: It's so hard being green era. 457 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: All right, on that note, Welcome home, y'all, and we 458 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 1: will see you soon. 459 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 7: Welcome home. 460 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: Native Lampod is a production of iHeart Radio and partnership 461 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: with Recent Choice Media for more podcasts from my heart Radio, 462 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: visit the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you 463 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: listen to your favorite shows.