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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George

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Speaker 1: Norri with you. Joe Diamond may look like a normal guy,

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Speaker 1: but he has turned his fascination for the strange and

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Speaker 1: mysterious into a full time career. He is even a

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Speaker 1: world record holder for solving the world's largest corn maze blindfolded.

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Speaker 1: He even hacked the Pentagon on live radio. Yep, we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about that. He's the longest artist in residence at

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Speaker 1: the Dull Mansion and Crystal Lake, Illinois, and he's the

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Speaker 1: official mind reader that the luxurious Maxwell Mansion in Lake Geneva, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: Both historic buildings are haunted. Joe, welcome back. How have

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Speaker 1: you been? I have been good, George. It's great to

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Speaker 1: talk to you. It's great to hear your voice, and

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Speaker 1: it's great to be back on the program. Great to

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Speaker 1: have you bat. I had such a great response when

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Speaker 1: you were on with me last year. I'm glad you're back.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you're back. So how is America's greatest mind reader?

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Speaker 1: Let me just read his mind real quick. He's good.

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Speaker 1: He's good. It's been a whirlwind since since the last

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Speaker 1: time I was on the show, I've been traveling all

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Speaker 1: over the country doing shows in various theaters. You know,

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Speaker 1: the first time I was on the show, I was

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Speaker 1: doing mind rooting shows over zoom because we were all

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Speaker 1: still under a lockdown at the time and travel restrictions

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Speaker 1: were very you know, emphasis on the strict But now

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Speaker 1: that everything is opening back up, I've been able to

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Speaker 1: travel all over the country, and the last year I've

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Speaker 1: been to both coasts, literally coast to coast, just like

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Speaker 1: on your program. I went to Our Harbor, Maine and

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Speaker 1: did a run of shows that a lovely improv theater there.

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Speaker 1: I did a couple of corporate events in Austin, Texas,

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Speaker 1: and also filmed and content for my friends YouTube programs.

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Speaker 1: He actually has his own own production company on a

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Speaker 1: former could compound down there and former nudist colony, which

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Speaker 1: is pretty pretty amazing. And so yeah, when we're there,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a literally a magical place that you

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Speaker 1: literal stone circle where they used to have quote unquote

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Speaker 1: to go there. And then uh, and then Yeah. This

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Speaker 1: last Halloween, I teamed up with a good good friend

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Speaker 1: the Dull Mansion in Crystal Lake. I did my mind

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Speaker 1: reading show to start the evening off, and then she

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Speaker 1: did a paranormal ghost tours of the mansion afterwards for

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Speaker 1: our thirteen VIP ticket holders. And that was all Halloween weekend.

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Speaker 1: And we even did this last or a version of

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Speaker 1: it this last weekend for Friday the thirteenth, where I

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Speaker 1: started the evening off with some mind reading and then

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Speaker 1: she held a seance for the second hour. J also,

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Speaker 1: what keeps driving you? I mean, you're so busy. Oh,

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Speaker 1: a lot of things. I think a big part of

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Speaker 1: it is the just the feeling of being blessed because

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Speaker 1: I used to grow up reading all these books about

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Speaker 1: you know, people like Urie Geller, people like you know.

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Speaker 1: Just Urie is going to be my guest Friday night.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I'll tell him. The fact I'm on

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Speaker 1: the show period as a dream come true. The fact

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Speaker 1: human being one of my childhood heroes and just still

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Speaker 1: a fascinating human. And yeah, and the fact that, like,

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Speaker 1: what would you coin yourself as Joe if you had

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Speaker 1: lot of people have asked me that that question. I liked.

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Speaker 1: like just saying I'm human. Yeah, like a Hi, I'm

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Speaker 1: Joe Diamond, I'm a human. You know. I believe we

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Speaker 1: all have you know, these abilities to a large degree,

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Speaker 1: not saying there's always something more but there could be,

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I kind of just rely on you know,

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Speaker 1: me being me. Now. A few years ago, you yourself

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Speaker 1: I stand on stage and tell people details like names

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Speaker 1: we get into like secret memories. Occasionally, you know, with

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Speaker 1: I prefer to see myself first and foremost as an artist,

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Speaker 1: as a purveyor of mystery. Like when people come to

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Speaker 1: of it as like a real life Twilight Zone episode.

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Speaker 1: They're coming to you know, a haunted location. There's only

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Speaker 1: Or even you know one of my big theater shows

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Speaker 1: In the movie Groundhog Day, when Bill Murray jumps out

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Speaker 1: uses about thirty people at once. That's huge. Now is

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