WEBVTT - Love Across the Pond 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:05.320 Wine Down with Jane Kramer and I heard radio podcast. 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:10.800 You guys, this is our last podcast before of the years. Yeah, 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:13.520 of the I think that I think we take a 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:15.440 week off, right, Maybe I don't know about I actually 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:17.479 needed to ask you that question. I did too. I 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:20.960 talk about it all figured next week you're very busy. 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:23.320 I deleted it off my calendar and Daniel is like, 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:25.319 are we not? We're not doing next week? And I 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:29.040 was like, I'll talk to Janna. Oh next week I'll 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:35.800 be in London, So there you good, Daniel. Um, yeah, 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:39.120 so I guess unless we do, unless we do one 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:40.879 when we come when I come back from London, like 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:43.519 a recap one. So maybe we're maybe well yeah, I 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:46.360 think we ourselves and the people we have to stay. 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:48.800 Plus we need like a little New Year's resolution moment, 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:51.680 don't we. Yeah, okay, so let's do. So this will 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:55.120 be the last one before I go to London, because 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:57.040 when you guys are listening to this, I will be 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:02.200 hopefully God you don't say no, no, no no. I 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:08.480 start to get um, everybody I know is sick right now, Yeah, 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:10.560 has the flu or something, And I'm like, if I 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:12.800 get the flu and I can't get on the plane. 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:16.440 No no, no, no. So I'm like, I'm trying something 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:18.560 the other day Jason sniffling, I'm like, don't touch me. 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:23.279 Love is in the air, young one, move this along. 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:27.560 But it's been a sickly everybody is sick right now. 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:31.080 For sure it is and repeat virus. Like. I'm at 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:32.960 the point where I'm like, definitely, there's no way we 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:37.040 could get anything new. All the things off. And then 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:41.240 last night Legends awake coughing. It's fine. I think it's fine. 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:45.280 I'm going to be the reason is this? What do 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:50.480 fifty something degrees? You know that back and forth is 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:52.520 always gonna and at fifty I turned on the fireplace 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:55.400 now because I've officially lost any sort of Michigan or toughness. 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:58.960 But the same the air is dry in our house 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:03.680 and you know, yeah, so hopefully when you guys are 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:06.400 listening to this episode, I will be in too busy 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:10.960 making out in London. I just yeah, I know, I 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:13.160 started to just because you know, when you're so excited 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:17.960 for something, Yeah, it's hey, they always zoom in. I 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:24.119 have to say whenever i'm guys, because I every time 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:26.919 they put a little like snippet of us up on Instagram. 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:29.160 They always go to my face making my card on 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:30.840 the sleeve face and just now I did it and 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:32.560 I'm certain they're going to use it and I have 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:35.639 to lock it up. It's great because people always want 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:43.120 to see the the reaction you go, um anyway, anyway, 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:45.840 So when you're excited about something, well, no, I just yeah, 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:48.760 I just you know, I'm I yeah, I get not. 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:50.320 I don't want to say, I don't want to put 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:52.760 it out there that it's not going to happen, but 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:56.320 I just get nervous. Yeah, because I think we daydream 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:58.840 us girls in our brain of how it's gonna look, 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:02.600 and then when it doesn't end up that way, but 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:04.760 this time, when it doesn't end up that way, this 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:08.600 time it will. And I think it's really indicative of 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:11.280 how you're truly feeling that you would be nervous to 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:13.919 miss it. That's my favorite part about this. Yeah, because 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:15.799 there's a lot of trips that you're like, man, I 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:17.280 mean there's been a lot of trips for myself that 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:20.880 I'm like, the flu would be great. I mean, I 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:26.000 hope not if you're going to London. I mean, she's 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:28.000 going to London. But I'm saying I hope that you're 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:29.320 not like, oh, I hope I have this flute, like 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:31.760 hopefully you would be excited about London. I was like, 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:39.880 I'm oding on zinc right now. So that you take 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:43.600 hundred milligrams, I mean, I know, way too much. It's 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:48.880 supposed to be like fifty, I think, but I didn't. Yeh, 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:51.320 I'm I didn't really take a hunderd. I took fifty. 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:53.520 But if you're like that, even that high amount was 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:56.120 upsetting my tummy. So like why am I doing this? 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:57.480 And I'm like, oh, because I just don't want to 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:03.800 miss yeah, and that's the part I like speak, uh, yes, 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:08.600 I'm excited and anyway, so this will be so then 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:12.200 when we get back, we'll do a recap of London 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:15.720 when we're really to build all the details, will I though, 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:19.680 We're definitely going to ask and see what happens. Christen's 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:22.159 taking that job on, well, I love it. I'm like, 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:24.039 tell the people they want to know, Cramer, they don't 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:27.440 tune in to hear about your grocery order. Well, I 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:31.280 will say something though, And he said, I really listened 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:34.000 back to um never really listen to us, because I 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:38.320 get well, I did because I had told Brave Heart 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:45.320 to listen, I know, and so in my mind, I'm like, 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:47.240 should do I want him to listen to the episode 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:50.080 or do I not because he doesn't really know my 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:52.599 world or what? Oh I love that he doesn't know 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:57.200 your work. So I I said, you know, I kind 0:04:57.200 --> 0:05:01.920 of mentioned you in a way a on the podcast, 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:05.359 and he's like, should I listen? And I was just like, yeah, 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:06.839 that as this would be a good one for you 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:11.880 to But then as I'm listening and then actually give 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:16.080 me sixty minutes, I'll get back. So but then I 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:18.440 was thinking about it because I was listening back to 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:21.120 some of the things I said, like you know, oh, 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:23.440 you know, I should just shut up and I shouldn't 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:27.760 talk about it, and sometimes where I got into this 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:32.520 thing um with actually your husband cat And you know, 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:34.200 I can't really tell the basis of what it is 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:36.680 because I haven't said you know what it's around, But 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:43.120 it's around privacy, right, So I've always said I when 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:45.919 everything happened with my ex, that is when I took 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:49.120 things public because I wanted to have the this is 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:50.919 this is I want. I wanted to tell the story 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:53.960 and not have the tabloids tell my story. So from 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:59.800 there became very public and open about things. And so 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:01.799 now all that's where I'm at. I can't now ask 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:04.960 for privacy. I mean I probably could, but I I 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:10.599 enjoy sharing and and for me, the part where UM 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:14.440 like this when I was listening, Yes, I want to 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:16.880 stay private, but at the same time, because of how 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.960 the divorce and the brokenness and the sadness, I'm like, 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:21.800 I want people to know that, like you can be 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.160 happy too, and I like, I want to share that 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:27.120 piece as much as I want. Well, it's like as 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:29.359 much as I want to hold onto it, and I will, 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:33.280 but at the same time, I'm like you, there is 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:38.080 laughter and love and excitement, and yeah, if this doesn't 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:39.960 work out, it's still going to be okay. Like I 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:43.880 talked to Amy the other day, I said, yeah, it 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:47.240 would hurt, but I know I will still be okay, 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.919 just like but to be able to feel alive again, 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:53.640 And that's what I kind of that's what I think 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:56.280 is so inspiring about you, though, Like I really mean that, 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:58.839 like you just don't give up on love well, and 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:02.880 I want people to think about it. Wants to share 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:04.760 that with people, and I think that's beautiful and guess 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.039 what you get to make that decision. And if you 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:09.760 want to be private or not be private, you can 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:12.800 share information and not share the details. Like that was 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:15.720 part of our white board plan last year the Queendom. 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:19.040 We were like, share that you want to be in love, 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:21.640 share that you might be in love. We just don't 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:24.680 need to name or give a social Security number an address, 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.880 right We just certain details get to be sacred in private. 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:30.040 And that's okay because you're actually still a human being. 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:32.960 I know that's crazy for a lot of people out there. 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:37.640 You're still a person. But what I'm saying is I 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:40.440 think it's just what I hope for. And this is 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:45.280 is this because you're gonna in London? Is this your 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:47.880 way of letting me know generally you're gonna let me down? 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:52.280 I see what it is. It took me a minute, 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:54.360 a little flow today. No, no, no, no, this is 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:58.960 this is what I'm This is what I'm meaning. I 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:02.679 didn't believe. I've always believed in fairy tales, right. I 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:05.440 want to be able to show the woman that's in 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:08.680 her bed from a terrible divorce, thinking she's never going 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:11.480 to find anyone. I want to be the person that goes, 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:14.520 you will find a great love. And this might not 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.760 be my great love. I don't know, but like, go explore, 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:22.160 feel the feelings and share it because I think for me, 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:27.920 share it, not him. That's my white board. Yeah again, 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:31.280 different planets right now. I'm not saying I'm going to 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:34.000 share him. I'm just I already know the look, I 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:36.120 already know what's happening, and I'm not going to But 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:39.199 here's the deal. Show share yourself happy as a selfie, 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.559 and let us imagine who that might be. That's all 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:46.120 I'm asking. No, I will not do that fast or 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:49.000 just give it a minute. Yeah, because then give it 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:51.839 a minute and you can still show the fabulous love 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:54.719 story like when the manager enters the chat. No, I 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:59.120 would never this soon. I really wouldn't. I swear I 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:04.040 wouldn't you to say. Having said that said that, when 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:08.080 the time comes, I'm mixed. I'm hopeful for the day 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:11.000 to go. This is why, this is, This is why 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:15.559 there was all those tears because it wasn't my fairy tale. 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.240 This is yeah, and I'm excited for them to see 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:21.200 that picture of you guys married when that time comes. Yeah, 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:24.720 and that's the first look, Christ We're going to guard 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:28.360 him hard. Where I'm guarding him hard, I like him. 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:30.480 I don't think I really like him. I think we 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:33.200 really want to guard the one should no events to 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:35.920 the others when you're getting when you're there. You know, 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:39.120 when I'm in London, was that a question? I thought 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:45.400 we already were okay, Quendom group chap Um. So yeah, 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:49.400 is there anything else, any requests that you want me 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:51.800 to do while I'm in London? Because this is this 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:56.480 is my sound off. Yes, I'm going to chase the butterflies. 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:59.200 Chase the butterflies. I just love yea. You know a 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:03.800 lot of people really like that. It's crazy. It was 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:06.000 a beautiful way that you put all that and so 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:09.040 that's my whole thing. Last year was chasing Joy and 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:12.800 this year's chasing Butterfly. That's what we're up to. I 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:14.560 said that in therapy. Then I started crying the other 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:17.200 day because I was like, you told me to chase Joy, 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:24.000 not Christal. I have to next year, short Um, I 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.839 need you to go to a place. There's a place there. 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.200 I'm going to remember the name. I think it's called 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:32.840 sketch okay, and I need you to go there. Sketch 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:39.480 It is this a naked It's like an Alice in 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:42.400 Wonderland kind of bar. But it's really really super cool. 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:45.360 It feels like a different world, Like it is like 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.400 nothing I've ever seen before. And I feel like we've 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.200 all traveled a lot and seen a lot of things. 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:52.000 I've never seen anything like this and asked to use 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:56.600 the bathroom and face time me from the bathroom. The bathroom, 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.400 I know, and if anybody here has been to this 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:04.640 play restaurant slash bar, they're going to know exactly what 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:07.319 I'm talking about. It is insane sketch. Nothing I've ever 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:12.439 seen in London. Huh the bathroom though, you're going to 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:17.800 see the back of restaurants in a bathroom. Oh no, no, no, no, 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:21.520 I didn't take press into the bathroom. Man. I know 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:23.400 I have a request that might seem like I'm picking 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:25.080 on you a little bit. Back to what we were 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:29.000 talking about. Back to normal, and that's why I'm here programming, 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:31.080 and this is what we were just talking about. Now 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.880 I'm going here's here's here's what I think. Let's not 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:38.040 take photos in the same spot. He's both, he's private 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:39.880 and it okay, let's just go for it, and let's 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:42.679 just take a photo together. Why I'm back on I'm 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:45.480 back on that side. Wait the two of them? Yeah? 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:47.600 Why not? I don't know what's going on with Katherine. 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:50.600 I need everyone. I just need everyone to Okay, we 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:52.319 need to have a room minute. I'm done with the 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:56.080 guessing happened with Katherine where I feel like Katherine and 0:11:56.120 --> 0:12:00.480 I are switching places recently, every time I say something 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:02.600 that's unlike me and a little like Katherine. I looked 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:04.120 at her it's like, you're gonna have my back, and 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:08.880 she's like, Okay, I debate your sides right now. And 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:12.640 I'm not saying she has to. I'm not saying she 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:15.559 has to post anything of them too. However, the picking 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:18.079 part is, I don't love the posting in the same place, 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:22.960 and you're posting it like I'm just like, either put 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:27.120 it out there or don't, and I'm like, don't. I'm 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:32.360 either for both. I'm just here for both. Sacred territory 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:35.679 is what we are entering. Have you seen her face? 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:40.760 Though I have faith, Katherine, I'm sorry, guard him hard. 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:43.360 Reguarding this is all there. Back to guarding. But take 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:46.480 all the photos and sent him to us, and I 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.160 don't know what's happening. Am I going to start getting 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:51.680 business either? Now? Am I taking over in a blaze? 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:55.240 Bab's hard to me. You want to go to my 0:12:55.320 --> 0:13:01.080 r meeting after this? My last meet to a jama 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:03.800 in San Diego and I'm an hotel room meeting. Chocolate 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:07.640 cookies following up on emails? What my panda cookies? Your 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:12.160 panda cookie? That was? That's all I have to say. 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:14.760 London is going to be beautiful, Becauys, I'm not going 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:17.720 to share. London is so special to me. I fantasize 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:22.320 about London because it was so butterfly filled for Preston 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:27.600 and I and it was such a crazy, wonderful That 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:33.920 was my homecoming season. Can I say one fear? Oh yeah, 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:37.120 ye that you're going to post because that's my fear. No, no, no, no, 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:41.520 I have it so hyped. It's going to be perfect. 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:43.840 It's going to live up to the hype and exceeded. 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:46.800 I already know you know what I'm talking about. Her 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:50.600 expectations of things can be very high, and the problem 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:55.320 is when it doesn't live up to that. The title 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:59.680 of the book come that's amazing. Expectations too high expect 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:02.760 and I had to see you. I yeah, So maybe 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:05.600 let's just I don't know what I say about London. 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:09.200 The thing that I think I enjoyed the most about 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:10.840 it could be anywhere, by the way, you don't have 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:13.280 to be like I know it sounds bougie like London, 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:15.080 like it could be. You could be like when I 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:19.120 go to Oklahoma. This is my expectation. My expectation it 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:24.280 was for me to enjoy myself, and I was hoping 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:26.720 that some of that would bridge and preston I would 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:29.120 enjoy the same things together. Blah blah blah. But the 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:31.480 truth of the matter is the reason I fantasize about 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:34.240 that place so much is because there was such like 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:37.440 a new wonder for me. I had nothing to do 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:41.360 with the people I was with. It turned out awesome 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:45.040 because I was able to like, we really bonded over 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:47.200 experiences and we held hands and we stopped and we 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:49.840 stared too long at I mean, I was in heaven. 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:54.520 But London is going to wildly expeed your expectations because 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:59.840 it's though about London or who you're within London. So 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:04.680 that's the thing. So my thing is there's a reason 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:08.240 you do lifetime movies continue That's okay, I see it now. 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:15.080 It's fine um for me and getting to know someone 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:19.200 I've got. I've gotten to know this person over FaceTime, 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:24.400 but you have seen him in we have three three days. 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:29.760 Everything else has been a month and some just every 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:32.960 day facetiming and talking, and we've really gotten to really 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:36.040 know each other on a different level. Having said that, 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:41.560 sometimes it's when you're with someone that you you you 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:44.000 dream up all these things. When you're not with someone 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:50.200 that to then spend an extended amount of time, you 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:53.120 might the expectations of what you might think it's going 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:56.760 to be, and then when you get there you're like, oh, 0:15:57.040 --> 0:16:01.440 I fantasize this a little bit more, or I maybe 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:03.960 thought it would be like this, and really it's like this, 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:08.560 and you're going to might be bombed or you know, 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:11.880 but I think either way it's still going to be 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:15.880 an experience one way or the other. And dated someone 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:21.520 this summer, and you traveled a bit. I did, and 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:25.360 in those travels I'm being extra careful. I think we 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:29.360 all know. If you went to Windown, we get a 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:33.160 little use with the names. I was panicked again. Who 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:36.440 am I Catherine? And a Blazer? I don't know. But 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:40.040 when you traveled, I know, but I was worried about 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:43.000 the name slipping. I would never be before before name 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:46.840 because she's the one that slips today. When you traveled 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:51.400 in that dating, the experience is what you loved about it. 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:53.600 I know. I remember I took a picture from sand 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:55.560 Fran and I said, that's the one. I exactly one 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:59.040 I'm thinking, I said, from from all the things, the travels, 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:03.640 meeting this person like it has been finding myself and 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:07.240 be having being alone and you were like market bag 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:10.280 in your hand, and they really didn't get to see 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:12.760 him until after his well, and you can still make 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:15.240 this one about you too. Yes, it's about y'all, but 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:17.280 it can also be about you. And that's what I'm saying. 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:20.399 It will be about you and the added bonus of 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:25.199 a really sexy accent and someone knew that you get 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:28.399 at a at a minimum, we already know this is 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:31.239 a pretty quality human being, and you get to know 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:35.720 him a little bit differently, more intimately. Some would say, 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:40.440 what if I just did a photo like let's say, 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:44.320 let's say like this is this is why I'm playing 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:48.720 Devil's and this is Devil's Advocate. What if what if 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:52.440 it goes exceedingly well right, and we decide that we're 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:54.960 going to be a boyfriend girlfriend. You know that, that's 0:17:54.960 --> 0:18:00.399 what She's just. I don't care how well Joe, listen, 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:03.880 what if we are everything? We end up saying, Okay, 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:05.520 we're going to be committed to adjust each other, we're 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:08.360 boyfriend girlfriend. This is how I feel. Blah blah blah. 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.840 What if I what if to seal that deal? Because 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:15.240 I just take a picture of us, like holding hands, 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:18.080 that's the picture, the hand holding, handholding. I might be 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:22.800 okay with us, That's all I will say. Because if 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:25.400 we're committed to each other, that doesn't mean we're committed 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:27.439 to the public being with each other. No, it's just 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:29.880 like I'm happy and this is a photo of two 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:32.040 hands until unless he has like a tattoo on his 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:36.120 hand and everyone's like somewhere, but devils do love a little. 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:40.120 She didn't know. That's why I said, listen, but Devil's advocate. 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:45.560 Why because she's in love and she doesn't care for 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:48.199 the girl who's sad and knows that like it's going 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:50.640 to be okay. What I'm saying, why so soon? Oh? 0:18:50.680 --> 0:19:01.320 Because I'm really happy. I don't know it happens that way. 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:07.840 I know I should and knowing my freaking power, but 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:15.320 in the elf me I ever wanted to do it that. 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:19.800 I mean like like, that's not this this yer this year, 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:23.800 I've not I can't. Can we talk about this comment? 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:27.919 Have I ever done that? No? Honest, I'm not trying to, 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:30.800 you know, I mean in Instagram, I didn't. There's the 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:33.080 minus that one person. There was nobody else that I've 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:36.879 brought into my Instagram or yea, you haven't none, we 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:41.600 just take pictures in the same place. It's not And 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:43.159 it was funny because I said, I just don't think 0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:50.320 anybody would ever even find everything. That's why I'm like, 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:53.600 either control it or so let me ask you this. 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:55.600 And I don't think i've asked this. Actually, such a 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:57.879 fun girls talk right now, And I know this is 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:02.119 like legitimate. We haven't discussed, like do we do this? 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:05.399 Is he so fair to say that you could be 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:07.800 in the US and people would recognize you. I've seen 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:11.719 it happen at airports whatever. Well, someone recognizes me on 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:15.520 my our first date. It was so embarrassing. Okay, so 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:20.880 my question no, no, no, the first date with Brave Heart. Yeah, 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:23.679 someone came up the like I mean, the moment I 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:25.840 met him. We then sat down and someone's like, oh 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:27.960 my god, are you Janna Cramer? And I was like, oh, 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:32.840 so is he that over there? Is my question? Um, 0:20:32.880 --> 0:20:34.720 because he's a little he's a little bit of a 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:39.800 big deal. So I'm wondering, is this yeah in places 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:46.480 mm hmmm mm hmm exactly. I rest my case. Yeah, 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:49.520 You're right, doesn't really matter. They still figure it out. 0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:52.960 They always figure it was private though he's now a 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:58.960 private on Instagram, but how many followers already. I'm sure 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:00.960 they'll still figure it out from the freaking hand. You're right, 0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:03.040 he's going to start getting a million requests. There is 0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:07.600 no like like like therapistaid, there's no rush. I just think, 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:10.800 for the first time in a very long time, I'm 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:13.959 actually genuinely happy. And it's like I'm like, I do 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:16.440 I want to buddy the elf share but it's so 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:19.600 But then I'm like when if it doesn't work out, 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:21.679 but I'm gonna be hard, But this is where I 0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:24.560 go It's okay because I know I'm gonna be okay 0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:27.399 regardless if I end up with this human or whoever else. 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:32.600 I just think this one seems so great that there's 0:21:32.640 --> 0:21:35.040 no rush. That's what I feel in my heart. I 0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:37.760 feel like you're going to be gushing about this and 0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:40.119 posting about this, and it's going to be supposed to 0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:43.200 picture of yourself and say, guys really happy and all 0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:46.040 of us will heard it. I like that, okay, and 0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:51.520 then we'll see. Then we'll see day by day. Are 0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:54.960 you on your own episode of Love Without Borders? First 0:21:54.960 --> 0:21:59.800 of all, she hasn't stopped smiling. I know. A second, Well, 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:03.399 it's interesting because we have a guest on who is 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:07.080 Love Without Borders? And I can't wait to talk to 0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:12.359 her because there's an interesting tidbit about Brave Heart that 0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:14.639 I want to that I definitely will share when she 0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:16.880 gets on. I can't wait. So let's take a break 0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:33.720 then get her on. Hi, Erica, Hello, let's do this. 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:36.399 We are so excited to have you on the podcast. 0:22:36.920 --> 0:22:41.280 Love Without Borders is on Bravo and an elevator pitch 0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:44.720 of like who you are and what you've been doing, 0:22:45.040 --> 0:22:49.960 um and specializing in So I've been a dating relationship 0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:54.359 expert for fourteen years now and uh so the show 0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:58.360 came and basically the concept of this show is we're 0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:02.679 taking five American singles and I match them with someone 0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:07.480 but in a different country, and so they essentially don't 0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:10.160 know where they're going until they get to the airport, 0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:13.840 and then I say, this is the country that you're 0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:16.639 going to, and not only that, but you have to 0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:22.159 move in with this blind date for the next three months. 0:23:22.880 --> 0:23:27.840 Three months, yes, three months? Okay, can what are some 0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:33.040 of the country So the countries are We've already revealed 0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:41.560