1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 2: It's almost famous podcast. I'm here today with Ashley and 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: we're gonna break down all the news happening in Bachelor Nation. 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: And there's some big news Ashley. 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 3: There is good news this week. I mean what I 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 3: mean good news. I mean we got some juicy scoop. 8 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 3: This is not a pointless headlines at all. Ben dive 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 3: into it. 10 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: A bachelorlum Cassie Randolph, Mary's musician Brighton rein Harp and 11 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 2: an intimate Costa Rican wedding. 12 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 3: Then, like, obviously we're partial to our own weddings and 13 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 3: our own wedding photos, but I could look at these 14 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 3: wedding photos for I could frame them in my own house. 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 3: That's how breathtaking. Cassie looks as she always does. I mean, 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 3: she is one of the most stunning people that I've 17 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 3: really ever seen in my life. And this is exactly 18 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 3: what I imagined her to look like as a bride. 19 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 3: But just seeing is just too much. It's so stunning. 20 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 3: So she and Brighton, he's a musician, they were friends. 21 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 3: They've been friends for ten years. They've known each other 22 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 3: ten years, and they started dating in twenty twenty dated 23 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 3: for ten years. He proposed in twenty twenty four, and 24 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 3: the couple had seventy people at this wedding in Costa Rica, 25 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 3: like you mentioned, and it was officiated by both of 26 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 3: their brothers, which is really cute. They said that they're 27 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 3: both nervous but excited and it was such a meaningful 28 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 3: and personal touch to do that. And then, of course 29 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: what's dominating the headlines is that Michelle Cassie is Cassie's sister, 30 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 3: who you know, is part of the Yellowstone franchise. She 31 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 3: has been seen out and about with Glenn Powell, and 32 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 3: US Weekly is reporting that they are dating casually. Somebody 33 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 3: said that there was like people were watching out basically 34 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: to see if he would come to this wedding. Did not, 35 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 3: which I think is expected. They've only been spotted like 36 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 3: a time or two together. But anyway, the Randoff girls 37 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 3: are just so stunning and I love looking at them 38 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 3: and I'm happy for all their romantic successes. 39 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 2: They have a really good looking family. 40 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 3: It's I mean, like they're just really unbelievable. The brother 41 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 3: is also gorgeous, Like isn't there is there four of them? 42 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: I don't know, but it's like pretty stupid, Like it's 43 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: one of those families that you're like, this isn't real. No, absolutely, 44 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: this can't happen. No, the next headline is Bachelor alum 45 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: Maddie Pruett is back in the headlines. She is quoted 46 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: in a podcast of her saying she struggled to learn 47 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 2: about being a submissive wife. Now it's her favorite thing. 48 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 3: Okay, So Ben, I'm gonna let you handle this headline. 49 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: Oh it was. 50 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 3: It was quite something to see on the timeline last week. 51 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 3: The quote is during a podcast that she and her 52 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 3: husband Grant, were doing with Bryce Crawford. I'm sure, do 53 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 3: you know who Bryce Crawford is. 54 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: I do. Yeah. He's like a young kind of like 55 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: Christian speaker. 56 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 3: Okay that's what I figured. Okay, cool. So they were 57 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 3: doing a podcast with him and she said that she's 58 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 3: learned a lot about being a submissive wife. It was 59 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 3: a challenge for me at first, and now it's like 60 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 3: my favorite thing. I love talking about submission. And this 61 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 3: is going on top of an interview that she or 62 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 3: a podcast that she did back in twenty twenty four 63 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: where she said, as a wife, I'm called to submit, 64 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 3: I'm called to respect. I'm called to honor, I'm called 65 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 3: to love. I'm called to be committed and to keep 66 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 3: our marriage bed pure and to make him other than 67 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 3: God my greatest priority. So Ben, I mean, I didn't 68 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 3: I read the comments. I know a lot of these posts, 69 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 3: and I feel like I'm in the majority. Actually, the 70 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 3: only comments that I ever that I saw were ugh 71 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 3: and I have to just agree. Please tell me where 72 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 3: we are all not seeing something. 73 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: M Oh goodness is such a good conversation. 74 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 3: I know, I know this could be a whole podcast. 75 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 3: I'm I'm so sorry to put this on you, but 76 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 3: I can try my best, our Christian speaker here on 77 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 3: the podcast. Please do your best. 78 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: I'll do my best. Well, okay, let's start with giving 79 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 2: a picture of when and where this was said. It 80 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: was set in a podcast. It was kind of a 81 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 2: quick comment. Jessica and I went back and listened to 82 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 2: it because we're like, huh. 83 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 3: Okay, thank you, thanks for doing that, bad podcast host 84 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 3: and not giving myself. 85 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I will give Maddie the benefit of 86 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 2: the doubt by saying like context and headlines is never 87 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: a thing, and so just like any clickbait, rage bait, 88 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 2: you never get context. This was a little rage and 89 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: to be honest. So I'm actually gonna go see Maddie 90 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 2: this week and talk with her, and I have a 91 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 2: lot of questions. 92 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 3: I do Wait, how are you going to talk to her? Like? 93 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 2: Are you to be honest show? 94 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 3: Oh? You you're going to fly down? 95 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to do a lot. So I'm you know, 96 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 2: kind of in the secrets. I don't know actually how 97 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 2: much I can say and not say, but I'll say 98 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: iHeart and I have been working on a project for 99 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 2: the last six months that is going to be faith focused. 100 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: Yeah uh. And it's not just in the podcast form, 101 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: and so it's going to be highlighting stories of faith 102 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: and trying to do it in a way that allows 103 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: the listener to not feel alone, but to you know, 104 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 2: experience everybody's stories of the love of Jesus. And so 105 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 2: I am flying to Nashville to do a lot of 106 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 2: that work, and then at the same time, because of 107 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 2: the release of Alone and Plain Sight, I'm going to 108 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: go on Maddie's show and talk about that a lot. Okay, 109 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 2: So I have a lot of questions for Maddie and 110 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 2: Jessica and Madison are our friends. Yeah, I've been around Madison. 111 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: I enjoy my time with her. I don't really know Grant, 112 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: so I can't speak to that, I think, and I'll 113 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 2: tell Maddie this I'm hesitant to. I don't love the 114 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 2: kind of quotes out of context when it comes to 115 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 2: the life of the sacred and talking about God because 116 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: it never can be really summed up in one sentence. 117 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: And so not only my belief, but I think what's 118 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 2: biblically true and what Maddie would agree with and Grant 119 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 2: agree with, is God is so much bigger than what 120 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: we can communicate in one sentence, or that we can 121 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: kind of put our stake in the ground and be like, 122 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: this is the way it should be, and this is 123 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 2: the way it is. God is so much bigger, and 124 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 2: oftentimes we fall short talking about God and talking about 125 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: ethics and morality and biblical interpretation because the God that 126 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: we love and believe in to be real and active 127 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: in this world is indescribable. You can't put words to it. 128 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: And I think that's where people get in trouble is 129 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: they try to put words to it. And then when 130 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: they try to put words to it in a way 131 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 2: that is so countercultural, and that can come off so 132 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 2: offensive to a majority of people. I think it gets 133 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: the believer into trouble and it gives a picture of 134 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: God that is not true because there's no context for 135 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: the conversation. So I think that's and that's just in general, 136 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: and I think that's the like the Really it's really hard, 137 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: I think, I'm sure it is. I don't know this yet, 138 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: but as a host of a podcast talking about faith, 139 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 2: it's going to be really hard to keep your words 140 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: above reproach and to keep your words in a responsible 141 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: manner so that the public does not look at it 142 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: and go I want nothing to do with that God 143 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: that you're talking about. It's really hard, and I'm sure 144 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 2: it is, and I'll say that from Madison. I will also, though, 145 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 2: say Jessica and I do not practice a household of submission, 146 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 2: and in fact I would actually I would be And 147 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 2: again I could talk to Madison about that. I don't 148 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: know if this is where our conversation will go, and 149 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 2: I really don't have any desire to argue with her. 150 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: It's her dance and her life and her marriage and 151 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 2: if it works for her and her family. Honestly, my 152 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 2: response is great, every couple has their own dance. Now 153 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 2: do I believe that every couple needs to have the 154 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: same dance as the couple next to, you know, And 155 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 2: that's why I think maybe this is kind of coming 156 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: off offensively. Also, it's saying, hey, we need to all 157 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 2: be submissive wives. And it's like, well, in this Christian household, 158 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: my wife does not submit to me and my authority 159 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 2: and we work great, and that's okay. Our household, I 160 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 2: would like to believe, represents the heart of Jesus, which 161 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: is an egalitarian household of equalness and compromise and self sacrifice, 162 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: just like Jesus did for all of us. We represent 163 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: the heart of God in this household by communication, collaboration, 164 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 2: by serving one another, compromising on things, discussing the big 165 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 2: topics with each other. And there are quotes or there 166 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 2: are verses in the Bible that you can kind of 167 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: pull out about submission. And before I get onto some 168 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: long historical rabbit trail, those are mostly speaking to like 169 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: a Greco Roman structure, because that's the times they're living in, 170 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: like husband, wife, slave, child, like it went down this 171 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 2: order of how a household operates in a Greco Roman culture. 172 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: We don't live in that culture anymore. So we don't 173 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 2: live in that society anymore. And and I think it's 174 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: it's a conversation worth having of can we what does 175 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 2: it look like to adjust? And I actually could argue 176 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: that a lot of these verses are not talking about 177 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 2: submission in the way that we understand it. I would 178 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 2: actually say that a lot of these verses are talking 179 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 2: about serving one another equally. But I don't really want 180 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: to get into a whole conversation about you know, biblical translation, get. 181 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 3: Into the whole conversation with Mattie. I can't wait for 182 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 3: this podcast. 183 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: Well, I mean I really, like I said, I don't 184 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 2: really have an interest because in arguing with her, because 185 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 2: I don't disagree with Madison if she believes that's how 186 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: their household best operates and that's how they both feel 187 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: most loved and seen. What I don't want, what I 188 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: wouldn't want, and not that I can even speak into 189 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: this in them because that's their household, their marriage. They 190 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 2: get to figure out how that dance looks and works 191 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 2: for them. But what I don't want is anybody reading 192 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: this and believing that when you get married, you become 193 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 2: less than want any I would want any person seeing this, 194 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: especially non believers, and going I want a Christian marriage, 195 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 2: or I want a marriage with somebody that follows Christ, 196 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 2: because it uplifts me to be a part of the 197 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: image bearer of Christ, which is one of love, undeniable love. 198 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: But again, I don't know if I could even disagree 199 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 2: with Maddie because I don't mind that they run their 200 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 2: household this way like it is what it is. It 201 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 2: works for them, and that's great. I just I think 202 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 2: that's where I said at the beginning. It gets dangerous 203 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: when you try to throw this biblical translation, and goodness, 204 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 2: conservative Christians are going to jump all over me for 205 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 2: this biblical translation onto a universal type of marriage. And 206 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 2: I think all of us should appreciate and respect each 207 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 2: other's own marriage dance, especially when it's healthy, working and loving. 208 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 3: Okay, did she give any examples on the podcast as 209 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 3: to what she means by summoning. 210 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 2: They didn't like dive into it. No, I mean I 211 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: think she has in passed. I haven't listened to like 212 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 2: past episodes. I think they have in passed. It's usually 213 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I again, I'm not gonna attribute this to 214 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 2: what Maddie said, but it's usually meaning like the husband 215 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: has ultimate authority and final say and so if he 216 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 2: comes into the house and there's a decision to be made, 217 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 2: everything kind of bounce off of him to them. He 218 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 2: kind of runs the house. The wife. You know, this 219 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: also can oftentimes flow into the wife is like a homemaker, 220 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 2: which you know, goodness in my house. I'm glad that's 221 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: not the case. Just does great as an esthetician and 222 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 2: it has a thousand different kind of funnels and lanes 223 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: that it runs into. Once you start talking about like 224 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 2: a wife's submission. But I mean, I guess this most 225 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 2: simple term for those who have no clue what they're 226 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 2: talking about. It's not like she submits in the way 227 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 2: that like I think secular culture imagines it to be. 228 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: It just means that the husband is the head of 229 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: the household. He is the one that makes final decisions, say, 230 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 2: and when he speaks, everybody listens. Yeah, I mean, like 231 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: I said, everybody has their own dance, right, And if 232 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 2: this works for him them, if Mattie's like, hey, this 233 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 2: is actually like really good for us as a couple, 234 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 2: this makes me a better human. This makes me more 235 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: of a better version of myself, a more joy filled 236 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: version of myself. It gives me the freedom and all 237 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 2: these things have all these benefits. And that's why I said, 238 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: I wish there was like this longer explanation of what 239 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 2: exactly this means and why. I think the big question 240 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: there would be why do you actually see that submission 241 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 2: being helpful for you? Helpful for you? But if it is, 242 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: that's great. 243 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, yeah, if you are happier and you 244 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 3: think that your household works with you, like, that's totally 245 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 3: She said it was a struggle at first, which makes 246 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 3: me a little. 247 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 2: I think that's where it gets a little weird for people, is. 248 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 3: Exactly right, because like, oh, so it's not natural to you, 249 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 3: So it's not what you wanted to do, so you 250 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 3: had to kind of submit to the fact that you 251 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 3: were going to do it. Yeah, and it felt unnatural 252 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 3: for a while, because maybe it is unnatural. 253 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think again, there's some really great ways 254 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 2: to argue biblically about how the Bible isn't talking about 255 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 2: a wive submission to their husband. Now, there's some very 256 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 2: clear verses, but those same verses are kind of sandwiched 257 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 2: at times with conversations about slavery, and obviously the Christian 258 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 2: Church over time has gotten very much, has gone very 259 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: much against slavery, and so how could we not then 260 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: readjust to say maybe Christian submission as a wife isn't 261 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 2: you know, helpful? And then also there's verses like in Galatians, 262 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 2: there's a beautiful verse about talking about how we are 263 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 2: all one in Christ and versus about how we were 264 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 2: all equal in Christ and we're all image bearers of Christ. 265 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 2: And so I just think it gets messy. And that's 266 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: why I started this with saying I don't necessarily see 267 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 2: a problem with them running their household how they want 268 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 2: to run it. I have no ability to speak into that, 269 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: nor would I want to. It doesn't make sense to 270 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: I just think it gets a little bit murky if 271 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: we're trying to speak into people who are not believers 272 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: when we say things without context, and unfortunately, headlines don't 273 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 2: give context or explanation, especially on these really like difficult 274 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:54,479 Speaker 2: topics that the Church in general has argued about internally 275 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: for thousands of years. And so that's just my point. 276 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 2: I think it definitely blew up in the headlines. It 277 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: definitely caused a stir and unfortunately for Maddie or fortunately 278 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: because people are listening and paying attention. This is just 279 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: like it seems like we're getting one of these like 280 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: once a month, right now. 281 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 3: I know, you know, I have to say, it's pretty 282 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 3: entertaining to me. Some people in the comments are like 283 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 3: people in the comments are like, oh my God, like 284 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 3: everything I know about them is against my will. And 285 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 3: I'm like, I find this all very interesting. It always 286 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 3: leads a good conversation with. 287 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 2: You, Ben, Yeah, I mean, I don't know. At some 288 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 2: point I think it does more harm than good. 289 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there's that you are correct. From your perspective. Yeah, 290 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 3: from a gospel perspective, yeah, yeah. 291 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: From a gospel perspective. 292 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 3: Gospel perspective versus gossip perspective. Yeah. 293 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 2: I just want people to experience the freedom and the 294 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 2: joy and the love of Jesus and to see that 295 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: in who Jesus was on this earth, to see this 296 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 2: that and who he was in the Christian story of 297 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: where he died for us. And I think in between 298 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 2: there we can really start to jack things up when 299 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 2: we add confusion to the story. 300 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 3: Ben, I am just so excited for your podcast. I 301 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 3: every time I hear you talk about this stuff and 302 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 3: like makes sense, makes sense, yeah. 303 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 2: Anyways, Uh, Bachelor's Crystal Nielsen says she's been advised not 304 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 2: to have more kids after harrowing C section. 305 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 3: Ben, did you read this? 306 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 2: I have not, no, but I really am interested in 307 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 2: the updates. 308 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Ben, like I had like I felt weak, 309 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 3: like I felt lightheaded almost reading this. She is truly 310 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 3: a warrior. And like they said, if she wasn't at 311 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 3: the hospital like she or the baby would have died. 312 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 3: So what happened was she was induced. Everything was going 313 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 3: pretty slowly and then finally I don't know what it was, 314 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 3: whether they put up more pitocin or whatnot, but oh, 315 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 3: they they gave her the epidural so that they could 316 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 3: break her water, because you don't want to break your 317 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 3: water without having apol. So they go and break the 318 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 3: up durals. They start moving and then she's pushing and 319 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 3: it's been three and a half hours, and uh, then 320 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 3: the doctor comes in to check her, which I'm very 321 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 3: I don't remember for my own berths whether or not 322 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 3: you ever would get checked within like during the pushing phase. Yes, 323 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 3: I mean that seems normal, but I I am now 324 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 3: speaking out of term. I really don't know because normally 325 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 3: they check your cervix before you start pushing, and then 326 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 3: like once they see your ten centimeters, then you start pushing. 327 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 3: So anyway, she was with her midwife for the majority 328 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 3: of this pushing experience. After three and a half hours, 329 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 3: the doctor comes in and goes, uh, yeah, we are 330 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 3: going to We're we're bringing you into the o R 331 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 3: right now. You are. She started bleeding, like she started 332 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 3: like gushing blood, and that was because the baby's arm 333 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 3: like ruptured her uterus, so her uterus is broken inside her. 334 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 3: They get her to the OAR and then they just 335 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 3: without you know, being under or anything, and I'm hoping 336 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 3: the epidera was still working, but there was something dramatic 337 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 3: about that too. They basically just had to like man 338 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 3: handle the baby out of through the c section because 339 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 3: the baby was stuck like in her there was like 340 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 3: an arm stuck in the uterus, so they had like 341 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,239 Speaker 3: pulled the baby out with it being like kind of 342 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 3: in intertwined with her uterus. Oh my God, like so traumatic. Obviously, 343 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 3: just thank god that they're both here in both Okay. 344 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 3: Another thing that was super scary about it all was 345 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 3: that they he had a good amount of time without 346 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 3: having good oxygen flow. So they were worried that there 347 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 3: was brain damage, but so far everything looks good in 348 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 3: that department, thank god. So then they had to put 349 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 3: him into a therapeutic hypothermia to protect his brain post 350 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 3: birth for seventy two hours. He had they set his 351 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 3: body temperature at ninety two point three degrees and she 352 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 3: didn't meet her son until he was two days old. 353 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 3: Got to hold him on day four, once he was 354 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 3: rewarmed and cleared of caesars and brain damage. Like, can 355 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 3: you even imagine? No, the amount of time that then 356 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 3: having to worry that he had brain damage is like 357 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 3: the worst part for me too. 358 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 2: There's just so much here. I mean, that is such 359 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 2: a for some it's such a magical couple days and 360 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 2: then you get like this new perspective I guess I 361 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 2: think that's happening to me, where I'm like, Okay, you 362 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 2: can't help, but put yourself in that scenario. 363 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 3: Exactly. It's so much different having a parent, being a 364 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 3: parent and then hearing of the trauma on birth. 365 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 2: No wonder. I mean, they should have, they needed to. 366 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 2: They took time before this came out. But we're with you, 367 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 2: we're thinking about you. In fact, I just did a 368 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 2: City cruise in San Diego. Yeah, two days ago with 369 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 2: Wells and Chris, and somebody asked me about Crystal and 370 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 2: updates on her during the question and answer, and honestly, 371 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 2: I didn't have one. I didn't know at the time, 372 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 2: and so I'm glad we're getting those updates out there. 373 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 3: So and then to answer, like the headline of it all, 374 00:21:54,720 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 3: they were able to miraculously repair her uterus. She went 375 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 3: under immediately after the C section, and even though it's repaired, 376 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 3: they say that it's best that she doesn't carry another 377 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 3: child because you know, it could very easily burst again 378 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 3: now if they want to look into service, and I'm 379 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 3: sure that that could be an option, but good luck 380 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 3: to you know. We're just so happy that they're home 381 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 3: and happy and healthy and safe. 382 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 2: Now. Yeah, I mean this is it hits home too, 383 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 2: because this is one of the it's not exactly the same, 384 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 2: but it's not too far off of why I'm an 385 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 2: only child, and so my mom kind of went through 386 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: some of these not quite the exact same, but not 387 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 2: too far off scenarios. 388 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 3: And complications when you were when you were born. 389 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 2: Oh huge, Yeah, you've never heard this. Actually, Just side note, 390 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 2: my dad had cancer. I knew that Hoskin's lymphoma, and 391 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 2: my mom was bedridden and they were side by side 392 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 2: in the hospital for like, I mean it was weeks 393 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 2: like eight weeks or. 394 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:05,719 Speaker 3: Something when you were born. She was yeah, wait before 395 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 3: she was born. We'll have to talk about this another time. 396 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 3: For sure, it's crazy because I knew about your dad. 397 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 3: I thought that was the reason that they only had 398 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 3: to know. 399 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 2: There was a lot that went on in that. But yeah, 400 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 2: I mean, here's a cool part is it sounds like 401 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 2: everybody is happy and healthy and back home, and we 402 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 2: got to celebrate that for them and wish nothing but 403 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 2: you know, upward health and peace as as time continues. 404 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 2: Another story about babies. We covered this story a few 405 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 2: years ago, and yet he decided to do it again. 406 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 2: What a Sickoh honestly, Bachelor's Ari Lyondyke Junior makes another 407 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 2: vasectomy appointment after baby number four, because hey, if you 408 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 2: get one vasectomy, why not get to so funny? 409 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 3: So he does make an amazing instant reel. It's a 410 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 3: video of him to Adell being a ClOH you know, uh, 411 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 3: what's whatever of the song goes it's me and then 412 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 3: he goes I'd like to get another vasectomy. This is 413 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 3: you know, like the overlay snip snip snip, and uh 414 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 3: so funny. Basically Ari, you know, after the three kids, 415 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 3: he decided to get the vasectomy. Last year September, we 416 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 3: were at a Lawn's wedding and he was all telling 417 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 3: us how they had reversed the vasectomy, how it's like 418 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 3: a four hour long surgery, and well, this is they 419 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 3: reversed it successfully, obviously, And now this is his third time, 420 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 3: you know, because he called to get it and then 421 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 3: reverse it. Now he's going again to get it again. 422 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 2: Goodness, gracious, those two they can just put I mean 423 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: good things. He's getting it because it feels like they 424 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 2: could just pump out as many babies as they want 425 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 2: to have, Like every time they pump and thrust, she's 426 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,479 Speaker 2: getting pregnant. That's wild. 427 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they seem like they have to have it. 428 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 3: There of execto me a necessary family. 429 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 2: It's necessary. Did you get one? 430 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 3: Well, Dawson took seven years to seven years, seven years, 431 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 3: seven months to conceive and Hayden took two. And technically 432 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 3: I like egg met sperm on try number one because 433 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 3: I had the chemical pregnancy for month one, so, I mean, 434 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 3: his record is pretty good, but he is going to 435 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 3: get a visit. We have we been thinking about it. Yes, 436 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 3: We've definitely been thinking about it because I want to 437 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 3: get off birth control. I feel like I get so 438 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 3: many headaches with it. I've been on it for so 439 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 3: long you're like not really supposed to be on it, 440 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 3: like in your upper thirties and such. So yeah, it's 441 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 3: definitely a thought. It does feel like that weird finale feeling. 442 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 3: And I was just like a month or so ago. 443 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 3: It's like, it's not a big deal. Like if I 444 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 3: were like forty and we decided to do something like 445 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 3: I've yeah, like I think that's the way we would 446 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 3: go with it. Anyway. I would be like, well, just 447 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 3: pull your spur out of your balls and we'll do 448 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 3: it a Pieture dish. It'll be fine. It's that a 449 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 3: big deal or like I UI or whatnot. And then 450 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 3: I was recently told that you definitely do not want 451 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 3: to pull the sperm out of the balls like that, 452 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 3: because apparently it's way more painful than even reversing the vasectomy. 453 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 3: So anyway, then we do have to wrap this. I've got, yeah, 454 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 3: some wifely duties to attend to wink wink. 455 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 2: I love. 456 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 3: I don't know exactly that was like a that was 457 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 3: like supposed to be like an all encompassing moment, like 458 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 3: taking a headline, taking the fact that the housewives. 459 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 2: Now I thought he was snapping at you, like come 460 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 2: back here, baby. The final headline is this is just 461 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 2: a congratulations to Trista and Ryan said her on twenty 462 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 2: two years of marriage. Absolutely wild, massive, massive deal. Hey, 463 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 2: that's all we got for you today. Those are the 464 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 2: headlines on the Almost Famous podcast Ashley, good luck with 465 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 2: your your wife, Flee Duties, I Flee. We'll be back 466 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 2: more this week with more content coming your way. Make 467 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 2: sure you also tune in the famously Available. We got 468 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 2: some big stories coming that way on first date, second dates, 469 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 2: third dates with all of our amazing women. So until 470 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 2: next time, I haven't been, I've been Ashley. 471 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 3: See you guys. 472 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on 473 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.