Speaker 1: Miss Spelling with Tory Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2: I've been lucky enough so far in my career to
Speaker 2: be surrounded by uber talented people, because then I look
Speaker 2: like I said, my note what I'm doing. But my
Speaker 2: longtime friend James Carpinello, which is a fun callback, I
Speaker 2: just did an episode with my real life best friend,
Speaker 2: doctor Kevin Sands, and James played a version of Kevin
Speaker 2: in the TV show loosely based on my life that
Speaker 2: I co created and produced and start in called So Notorious,
Speaker 2: which was on VH one, And that's how James and
Speaker 2: I met. But James is like, it's not a trifecta,
Speaker 2: like this guy like does everything to start on Broadway
Speaker 2: a little known musical called Saturday Night Fever, playing John
Speaker 2: Travol's's role. He sings, he dances, he's a great actor,
Speaker 2: he's great at comedy. He's gorgeous, he has an amazing wife,
Speaker 2: two children that are super talented, and just a really
Speaker 2: great and funny guy. And he's doing a show right now.
Speaker 2: He's doing a little shop of hors in New York.
Speaker 2: Go check it out. And he is giving his time
Speaker 2: to us today to come on and them share some
Speaker 2: funny stories. So let's bring him in right now. James Carponella,
Speaker 2: whoa HIAI Hi, Oh my gosh, I.
Speaker 3: Am so old. I need readers to see you guys,
Speaker 3: even on a computer screen.
Speaker 2: I have like fifty million pairs. It all comes full
Speaker 2: circle because I just didn't interview. Oh look I have
Speaker 2: new I have teeth.
Speaker 3: Nice, let me see did you get new to you guys?
Speaker 3: New teeth?
Speaker 2: So Kevin so I never had veneers and I had
Speaker 2: a fear of the dentists for years, and my teeth
Speaker 2: I used to have a great smile, and just like
Speaker 2: I didn't take care of it, and just and He's like,
Speaker 2: one day we're putting in Veneers. I'm like, well, I
Speaker 2: was there through dental school, terrified, never letting you put veneers.
Speaker 2: But now world renowned. But I do have a little
Speaker 2: bit of a lisp. I just got them though, I'm
Speaker 2: adjusting twenty eight veneers.
Speaker 3: Wow, you know what's crazy about that?
Speaker 1: Well, I am not only did I play Kevin, but
Speaker 1: Pete wasn't.
Speaker 3: Really I don't know what you remember. I'm playing the
Speaker 3: dentist in little Shop before is in New York right now?
Speaker 2: He is, and he took time out to come to
Speaker 2: our show, so thank you for doing that. Do you
Speaker 2: have a show tonight?
Speaker 3: I have a show tonight, I do.
Speaker 2: I have so many directions I want to go here
Speaker 2: with you. Okay, they're all perfectly innocent. So we met
Speaker 2: doing So Notorious, which was loosely based on my life.
Speaker 2: I had to say that, right, yeah, no liability from anybody.
Speaker 2: It was. We enhanced it, but it was almost done
Speaker 2: on my life anyway. James Gott cast and played Pete,
Speaker 2: who was based on my best friend and roommate at
Speaker 2: the time, doctor Kevin Sands. That's so interesting because I
Speaker 2: love Little Shopifore's and I was like, oh, that's so
Speaker 2: cool you're playing that role. And I didn't even make
Speaker 2: the connection, like, oh my gosh, you played a dentist
Speaker 2: on TV and in your show. So there you go.
Speaker 2: So I remember originally was for NBC. Then we didn't
Speaker 2: get picked up. They picked up My name is Earl.
Speaker 2: Good choice, I guess.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's so interesting to think about now, right
Speaker 1: in this landscape of television and where everything you watch
Speaker 1: on your phone or everything's a streamer, like I think
Speaker 1: it was just before the time. It was like in
Speaker 1: a weird custom. They wanted to do original programming, right,
Speaker 1: that was the whole idea.
Speaker 2: Right, we were the first.
Speaker 3: They didn't really have the audience.
Speaker 2: No, it was all it was a real audience, which
Speaker 2: they thought, you know, we're doing like a semi reality
Speaker 2: based version. Anyway, remember we got all those great reviews.
Speaker 2: That's always the kiss of death, right, ye yeah.
Speaker 3: So much fun though.
Speaker 2: It was some of the best times in my life.
Speaker 2: It's so funny because I get intimidated, like because you're
Speaker 2: such like an actor and you've been on Broadway so
Speaker 2: many times and you have that background. But then like
Speaker 2: TV wise, I'm like, yeah, cool, we can roll and
Speaker 2: like hang in that department. So I have two hats
Speaker 2: when it comes to you. So I remember in the
Speaker 2: back of my head thinking like, Okay, this is going
Speaker 2: to go so much better with Kevin if it's someone
Speaker 2: that he's going to look at and be like, oh
Speaker 2: my god. Not only is he a great actor, but
Speaker 2: let's you know, he's vain. So someone great looking, and
Speaker 2: of course we want someone gorgeous, because Kevin, you're gorgeous.
Speaker 2: And like I remember, NBC was like there was another
Speaker 2: guy and he was very talented and very funny, but
Speaker 2: he wasn't a sound and funny as you, and he
Speaker 2: was not good looking. And I remember we were like, no,
Speaker 2: it had it had to be you.
Speaker 3: Why.
Speaker 2: I didn't even tell him this was happening until I
Speaker 2: could present him with yeah, and then I told him
Speaker 2: to come to set, and he came to set, and
Speaker 2: then that's when we did the pilot and he met you.
Speaker 2: And after that he was like, you have my blessing
Speaker 2: to do whatever you want. Like just look at those eyes,
Speaker 2: look at him, smile great. I was like, cool, can
Speaker 2: we rename Kevin? He's like nope, So oh I was.
Speaker 2: I was talking the other day to Kevin about this
Speaker 2: and I don't even know if you remember this, but
Speaker 2: and I can't say his name Joe Magnio.
Speaker 3: Manganello.
Speaker 2: Oh good, so you.
Speaker 3: Can't say I can't say it either. I think it's fine. Dude.
Speaker 2: Should have changed his name to Figara, but that didn't
Speaker 2: work out either. But anyway, great guy, great guy. So NBC,
Speaker 2: after we did our first table read, wanted to recast him.
Speaker 2: Really they did. I didn't tell you this part. No, yeah,
Speaker 2: and we see it was like we don't think he
Speaker 2: has like star quality. This guy we want. He was
Speaker 2: only going to be on for two episodes, but it's
Speaker 2: her love interest. We want someone that's you know, people
Speaker 2: are gonna want to see now more. And we just
Speaker 2: don't think he has the it factor. Okay, but yeah,
Speaker 2: now he's.
Speaker 1: A big giant star. You know, he went to college.
Speaker 1: He went to Carnegie Mellon with me. He was younger
Speaker 1: than I was. But then, yeah, that was cool, and
Speaker 1: then of course he blew up, can.
Speaker 2: We go back to how I killed your comedy career?
Speaker 3: You didn't kill my comedy career.
Speaker 1: I find it all so funny, you know that you
Speaker 1: you sort of my agent now that did this one
Speaker 1: thing one time, which was really funny because I was complaining.
Speaker 3: Why do you know I grew up like this?
Speaker 1: I did two comedy pilots when I came out. Here
Speaker 1: is the first thing I've done. I've done Broadway shows
Speaker 1: where I played complete fools and clowns. And why why
Speaker 1: can't I get seen for blah blah blah? You know,
Speaker 1: I reactors like, why can't I get seen for blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. And he did this thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: He's like, are you your computer? And I was like yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's like, go to your email and he set
Speaker 1: forwarded me my reel and it was literally like one
Speaker 1: like what you're talking about, after another, like.
Speaker 3: Back to back to back to back to back.
Speaker 1: Because you know, at a certain point you can't you know,
Speaker 1: you can't put clips from a pilot you did when
Speaker 1: you were twenty two or twenty three. You know, you
Speaker 1: got to sort of be age appropriate. But so it
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with that. I just always found
Speaker 1: it funny that for there was a shift where I
Speaker 1: couldn't or it wasn't seen very often for comedies, for pilots.
Speaker 3: It was very frustrating, which is.
Speaker 2: So odd to me because you have amazing comedic talent
Speaker 2: like timing. Your timing's done on and you're gorgeous, so
Speaker 2: it's like it's a win win for them all around.
Speaker 2: But we know how that world works.
Speaker 3: It's crazy.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Should we bring so Notorious back?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're available, you're always booked, but you know.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm not always booked.
Speaker 2: I'll have my agent talk to your agent. Talk to Oh,
Speaker 2: she's my old agent. Hey, Ruth can and your old agent.
Speaker 3: You should bring it back. You should do it. You
Speaker 3: ever talked to Zach duh.
Speaker 2: So we're talking about So Notorious. James played my best
Speaker 2: friend Pete on So Notorious, based loosely based on my
Speaker 2: real life best friend Kevin, and Zach Quinto played Soson
Speaker 2: loosely based on my other real best friend Maron. So
Speaker 2: we all have busy lives and you mean to stay
Speaker 2: in contact with everyone and you don't. But then when
Speaker 2: you see them or talk to them, you're like, you
Speaker 2: go right back. It's like high school. We're like high school,
Speaker 2: like you go right back to your old friends. And
Speaker 2: Zach and I like hadn't talked for years, and then
Speaker 2: he DMed me and I was like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: So he was like, hey, I'm back in la I'd
Speaker 2: love to reconnect. So we set a lunch and we
Speaker 2: were supposed to go have lunch and then I fainted.
Speaker 2: This is in August. I fainted and got a concussion
Speaker 2: and had to go to the er, and I in
Speaker 2: the er, I was concerned. This is what I was
Speaker 2: concerned about, which is so weird. I had a full concussion,
Speaker 2: like blacked out. My daughter had to call the ambulance.
Speaker 2: It was like a whole situation. I was like but wait.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm supposed to meet Zach for lunch and
Speaker 2: at the time, my soon to be ex had arrived
Speaker 2: at the hospital and he goes, Oh my gosh, he goes,
Speaker 2: she's in This is worse than we thought. She's talking
Speaker 2: about Zach. That was like seventeen eighteen years ago. She
Speaker 2: was friends with him and on a TV show she
Speaker 2: hasn't seen him in years, and I was like, no, hello,
Speaker 2: I'm right here, I'm fine, Like, I'm fine, I actually
Speaker 2: and I was like proof. I was like, see, Zach
Speaker 2: and I were supposed to have lunch today. Can you
Speaker 2: call him? Cancel with him? Thank you?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's hysterical, Like this is worse than
Speaker 3: I thought.
Speaker 2: It's worst than I thought. Zach quinto she doesn't talked
Speaker 2: to him in seventeen years.
Speaker 3: Yep, have you are you serious? Do you really want
Speaker 3: to bring it back? That would be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really do. I mean, no time like the present.
Speaker 2: There's a big shift going on in my life, and
Speaker 2: I think it would be great.
Speaker 3: Would it be your life now?
Speaker 1: Meaning like all of this stuff that's happening you know,
Speaker 1: and or has happened since the previous so notorious or
Speaker 1: where would you.
Speaker 2: Pick up, it would be a blend, just like we
Speaker 2: did at the time. I feel like a lot of
Speaker 2: the stories, I was like, oh my gosh, this happened
Speaker 2: in my teens, But now I was were we supped
Speaker 2: topan our twenties? You're way younger than me. Wait, how
Speaker 2: old are you now?
Speaker 3: Not I'm almost fifty. I'm going to be forty nine
Speaker 3: in August.
Speaker 2: That's it so and I just turned fifty one. Sorry
Speaker 2: to clarify that. I would incorporate things that have happened
Speaker 2: in the last like probably ten years, but present them and
Speaker 2: story wise like up to date and everything going on? Now?
Speaker 2: I mean, is it art entertaining life? Life? Imintaining art?
Speaker 2: How do we even recreate the podcast on the show?
Speaker 2: Because you would be playing Kevin, but you're also playing James.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, maybe there's something there, Maybe there.
Speaker 3: Is something there? Can I write? Does he still drive
Speaker 3: a Ferrari?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Do you remember that?
Speaker 3: I just remember. I just remember he drew a Ferrari?
Speaker 3: And now I was like, why why didn't I become
Speaker 3: a dentist? Like why am I actor?
Speaker 2: Multiple ferraris? He has an office in Dubai. He sees
Speaker 2: everybody in the world, like it's the craziest thing. But
Speaker 2: he always says, going back, those were the best days
Speaker 2: of his life. Like we were how old then, I
Speaker 2: mean in our twenties. I mean, and you guys, we
Speaker 2: used to go out, we used to do everything. You not
Speaker 2: straight lace, that's not the right word. You are a
Speaker 2: very respectful person to your wife, to women, to men,
Speaker 2: to everybody. Like we go out and you'd be like,
Speaker 2: you'd have some beers. You'd be like, I gotta go home.
Speaker 2: And you were responsible. That's the word. You were always responsible.
Speaker 1: I was always, and I've said this to a million
Speaker 1: people about you, I was always super impressed with you,
Speaker 1: and frankly, not that I thought otherwise, But I wasn't
Speaker 1: like a huge nine to two one oho fan.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know I saw it. I know it
Speaker 3: was a part of like are growing up. But I
Speaker 3: was just the way.
Speaker 1: The best part of so notorious for me was that
Speaker 1: you were such a great actor, Like, and I've told
Speaker 1: everybody who I've worked with on that that you were
Speaker 1: just so great. I would sit there mesmerized by how
Speaker 1: you could. You were essentially playing yourself. So one would
Speaker 1: think that's easy, but I would argue that's way harder
Speaker 1: than that, because I mean, maybe not for you, but
Speaker 1: watching you do it, I was like, man, like this
Speaker 1: is this takes a lot of skill and attention, and
Speaker 1: you were always prepared and it was like it was
Speaker 1: it was really inspiring, and I was bummed when it
Speaker 1: ended because I thought that was one of the best
Speaker 1: qualities of the show is how good you were at
Speaker 1: I mean a theory portraying yourself but doing it. You know,
Speaker 1: your comic timing was obviously great. There were gentle, sweet
Speaker 1: moments in the piece and certain episodes that were that
Speaker 1: really played quite well. And I just I remember being
Speaker 1: there and being like, man, she's really good.
Speaker 2: Do you know Whitney Cummings, I mean you know of her,
Speaker 2: but have you met her?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: I funny enough, I met her through it through another
Speaker 1: friend years ago.
Speaker 3: I think they were dating before.
Speaker 1: She was you know, Whitney Cummings, like very famous and
Speaker 1: you know, but no I don't. I don't know her,
Speaker 1: but I have met her, but it was years and
Speaker 1: years ago.
Speaker 2: Ah, you guys would love each other. But she's very
Speaker 2: much art sense of humor. But she huge so notorious
Speaker 2: fan and she's always like yeah, uh, she wants to
Speaker 2: bring it back, and I always we're friends. Now we met,
Speaker 2: it's funny on she like slid into my DMS and
Speaker 2: I didn't see it for like a year, and then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden one day I was just like
Speaker 2: scrolling and I was like, Whitney Cummings, are you shitting me?
Speaker 2: And I was like, Hi, I didn't see this. And
Speaker 2: then we became fast friends. But she always says, no,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna bring that back, and I'm always like, uh,
Speaker 2: I'm hold of you to that, and she's like but
Speaker 2: like the self deprecating thing. She's like, we're gonna like
Speaker 2: rebrand you. Like that's funny to a certain extent, but
Speaker 2: there's way more to you. I'm like, cool. So anyway,
Speaker 2: where would we put so notorious? We could do so
Speaker 2: many things now, we could say anything we wanted to say.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it would be it would be genius.
Speaker 2: Wait do you remember that? Okay, First of all, sorry,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk about your wife for a second, because
Speaker 2: I love your wife, Amy Acker, who I did not realize.
Speaker 2: We got to work on your social media presence because
Speaker 2: she's crushing that, and you got to up your empty
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing I don't understand. We are past this.
Speaker 1: Like I was in this conversation with this youngster in
Speaker 1: our show the other night yesterday maybe about just like
Speaker 1: the implications of social media, and also like he had
Speaker 1: just done the Apple vision pro thing and like the
Speaker 1: you know the glasses that are if you.
Speaker 3: Try to mind blowing, it's sick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I feel like I'm almost fifty, so I
Speaker 1: feel like the really bad stuff that's going to happen
Speaker 1: from all of this, like for our humanity kind of
Speaker 1: like I kind of feel the same way about social media,
Speaker 1: like I could take it or leave it. The problem
Speaker 1: for it with me is that I got addicted to
Speaker 1: I'm addicted to TikTok. And I don't mean like I
Speaker 1: put tiktoks out like I it has replaced anything I
Speaker 1: do in my free time, Like I just scroll through
Speaker 1: TikTok and Amy hates that I do that. But I'm like,
Speaker 1: now I've just didn't. At first, I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't have a problem, like this is how I relax
Speaker 1: at night before I fall asleep, And then now it's
Speaker 1: like I now I can fully just admit, like I'm
Speaker 1: addicted to TikTok.
Speaker 2: So you've been married to Amy since two thousand and three.
Speaker 3: That's twenty one years.
Speaker 2: Twenty one years. It is wild like it is so
Speaker 2: and she's so beautiful and so talented. And I guess
Speaker 2: this is something I've always wondered about because you were
Speaker 2: there when Deane and I met. I was we had
Speaker 2: done the pilot, right, but when you.
Speaker 1: Did the pilot, I'm going to go for a deep
Speaker 1: dive if I remember this.
Speaker 3: I went, was it Charlie.
Speaker 2: I'll always let you one because you're cute, But yep.
Speaker 1: Were you still with Charlie when we did the pilot
Speaker 1: because there was a break, So I I think we
Speaker 1: met when we came got picked up right, right?
Speaker 2: So what happened was I, yes, I married for a
Speaker 2: year and then we did so notorious. We did the pilot,
Speaker 2: which then didn't get picked up by NBC. Then we
Speaker 2: got it picked up with VH one, and while I
Speaker 2: was gone for that summer making a TV movie in Canada,
Speaker 2: and then I met Dean and then well the rest
Speaker 2: is history. But I blame I don't blame anyone. I'm mean,
Speaker 2: I'm super happy. I'm grateful. We have five beautiful kids.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't change a moment of my journey, and Dean
Speaker 2: and I are super amicable and everything's great. But I
Speaker 2: always jokingly blame our one of our creators, Chris Alborghini,
Speaker 2: because that night we had like thread through and the
Speaker 2: cast get together and we all and crew and everyone
Speaker 2: went home, and Dean and I stayed, and Mike, of
Speaker 2: course Grandma Chessler went back to the hotel and Chris
Speaker 2: Alberghini stayed. And I'm like, this is your fault, Like
Speaker 2: you let this happen. He's like, I let it happen
Speaker 2: that you crawled across me to get to him and
Speaker 2: kissed him in the middle of like a bar, and
Speaker 2: I was like, yep, but yeah. So we came back
Speaker 2: from that and Charlie was actually going to be a
Speaker 2: writer on So Notorious.
Speaker 3: I think I remember, which.
Speaker 2: Was a really difficult thing because while he very talented writer,
Speaker 2: and that's how I met him is I was in
Speaker 2: a play that with him that he wrote, he was
Speaker 2: very reserved when it came to females. And you know,
Speaker 2: I think there was a part of me that I
Speaker 2: could be reserved. I could be Donna Martin, even though
Speaker 2: you don't know nine or two and zero. But I
Speaker 2: could also be I'm messing with you. Oh hey, James,
Speaker 2: what'd you do with the Donna? Martin dahll On? So Notorious?
Speaker 2: Kevin and I discussed this story, and I talked about
Speaker 2: it in such an inappropriate way we had to cut
Speaker 2: the whole story. Oh my gosh, do you remember the part?
Speaker 2: I was just telling a friend this the other day.
Speaker 2: So in the big party scene, and this was based
Speaker 2: on a true story where Kevin, who was Pete who
Speaker 2: you played on the show. There's a big party in
Speaker 2: the apartment and a lot of chaos ensues, and the
Speaker 2: biggest thing is I on the bar had my sea monkeys.
Speaker 2: I had kept alive for a year and a half
Speaker 2: and someone knocked them over. And I told a friend
Speaker 2: the story that I had sea monkeys and he was like, oh,
Speaker 2: sea monkeys, it's not a thing. They don't work. I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: they do work. I kept ones alive for a year
Speaker 2: and a half and he was like, I don't believe that.
Speaker 2: I'm like, let me find it. It's so hard to
Speaker 2: find So Notorious. You really can't view it.
Speaker 3: I have the DVD.
Speaker 2: Can you burn it for me?
Speaker 3: He's in like the box set at my house.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I need to see that because I can't
Speaker 2: find clips. It's hard to like I tell people's stories.
Speaker 2: They're like, I don't believe you. I'm like, well made
Speaker 2: a TV show based on it. Let me just show
Speaker 2: you that, and then I can't find the TV show.
Speaker 2: But yeah, Sea Monkeys, Living Proof they were everywhere. Sorry
Speaker 2: before we go. It's interesting that everything came full circle
Speaker 2: because not only did we meet become friends, starting a
Speaker 2: show together where you played my best friend, but then
Speaker 2: years later our kids ended up going to school together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for like a year. When we were at Losancinos,
Speaker 3: Ava was there two years.
Speaker 2: Correct, and Jack was already older, right he was, he was.
Speaker 3: He did sixth grade there because we were coming back.
Speaker 2: From You're in New York, right, you.
Speaker 3: Work, and we just needed a landing spot.
Speaker 1: And our friends Nica and Justin said, you got to
Speaker 1: look at this place, and we just fell in love
Speaker 1: with it.
Speaker 3: And that's where we were for elementary.
Speaker 2: School, which you know how parents are all parents are
Speaker 2: like and teachers and they were all like, oh this
Speaker 2: actor family. The husband and wife were both actors, and
Speaker 2: the kids are coming in. I was just listening and
Speaker 2: I didn't know. I think I didn't know you were
Speaker 2: coming there, and I heard your name and I was
Speaker 2: like huh and I was like what. And then and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden we were at like back to
Speaker 2: school night and you were there, but yeah, and I
Speaker 2: was like, oh my gosh. And so Liam and Ava
Speaker 2: were in the same class together, which is I was
Speaker 2: showing Liam last night. I'm like, oh my gosh. I'm like,
Speaker 2: so James is coming on the show tomorrow and and
Speaker 2: I was like, have you ever have you reconnected with
Speaker 2: Ava since? Then He's like no. And then he came
Speaker 2: in and he goes, mom, have you seen what Ava
Speaker 2: looks like? And I was like she was always hot.
Speaker 2: I was like, uh, so gorgeous. So is Jack. I
Speaker 2: can't believe all the things they are doing, Like you
Speaker 2: and Amy, well creative, amazing, talented children the two of
Speaker 2: you brought onto this planet. But behind the scenes, everyone
Speaker 2: at school was just like and I'm not talking like
Speaker 2: every mom was like, oh my god, that dad is
Speaker 2: so hot, Like you, what is it called dilf dolf?
Speaker 3: Sure that vibe there, but well maybe I'm just there.
Speaker 2: They're not going to let you know. So every every mother,
Speaker 2: yeah exactly, and I just pretend like I didn't even
Speaker 2: know you and just be like listen, and every mother
Speaker 2: there was just like, oh my god, he's so gorgeous.
Speaker 2: Every day was like, oh I wish I look like
Speaker 2: that guy. And all the teachers were just like whoa.
Speaker 2: But it was so funny because you wouldn't even think
Speaker 2: about it, but like everything behind the scenes, they'd be like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, it was die Like James Carponella is coming
Speaker 2: in to set up the stage. He like you would
Speaker 2: come and do like the labor there, and like.
Speaker 1: It's my it's my love language. Acts of service. I've
Speaker 1: learned this in my later life. I don't think I
Speaker 1: knew it as much then, But that's like what that's
Speaker 1: like what I do. Like if I do stuff for people,
Speaker 1: it makes me feel good, and that's not I mean.
Speaker 2: I'll never fix for me back in the day, I.
Speaker 1: Know, but like like if you literally called me and
Speaker 1: I was in LA and You're like, I need someone
Speaker 1: to and hang. We were going to start a company
Speaker 1: because I was like glowing to our friend's houses and
Speaker 1: hanging pictures and I was going to pretty well hung.
Speaker 3: But I'm bump exactly my friend Jody came up with that. Actually,
Speaker 3: so I can't.
Speaker 2: I'll invest in that company.
Speaker 3: Yeahs enough Jody Harris.
Speaker 2: I remember her. But yeah, So you would show up
Speaker 2: and like, I'm blanking on what it was? What is
Speaker 2: the thing at Halloween? They would have like the house, yes,
Speaker 2: and it was just like it almost to a fault,
Speaker 2: got annoying, like who's like, who's coming in to do
Speaker 2: do this? Oh, it's James James, and it's just they'd
Speaker 2: all be like, oh, yeah, James Carmona is coming in.
Speaker 2: He's going to screw in a light bulb. And they'd
Speaker 2: all just be like and he would show up and
Speaker 2: like in his T shirt and just like they would
Speaker 2: just all be oggling you. And I'd be like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, this is just so funny to me because
Speaker 2: I obviously you're hot, but I don't think of you
Speaker 2: that like because we have known each other for so long.
Speaker 2: But it was just interesting that it was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it all came full circle. Two actors in the business.
Speaker 2: I don't know how you guys have this relationship.
Speaker 3: It's hard.
Speaker 1: Raising kids is hard, it is, and be at two
Speaker 1: people in the business, it's hard. But we've been lucky
Speaker 1: in the sense that those times when I was in
Speaker 1: a T shirt screwing in light bulbs at Losncino has
Speaker 1: meant that I wasn't working, or that I could be
Speaker 1: with the kids, or I could help out there because
Speaker 1: Amy was on a TV show somewhere making money to
Speaker 1: support the fact that I could screw in a light
Speaker 1: bulb and a T shirt at the school haunted house.
Speaker 1: And I think that sort of balance, you know, has
Speaker 1: always been We've been lucky that way.
Speaker 2: This is what I feel like from knowing you both
Speaker 2: this long is you really don't have egos and it's
Speaker 2: not an easy business to be in, and especially I
Speaker 2: hate to say this with men in entertainment, you know
Speaker 2: you always feel like men are like you know, go
Speaker 2: back to like I'm just provide and protect and this
Speaker 2: is my role and it's ingrained in us. And you know,
Speaker 2: nothing's perfect. But you, guys, I've watched you over the
Speaker 2: years seamlessly transition back and forth and truly be equals
Speaker 2: in a partnership and it's really nice. And I hope
Speaker 2: I find my Amy someday. Wait that sound right.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that you got you know, you've worked your
Speaker 1: whole life, job to job to job to jobs job,
Speaker 1: and you know, Amy's very much like that too. She
Speaker 1: had a career that was it'd be easy to say
Speaker 1: she's lucky, but she's really good at it, Like she's
Speaker 1: really good, and so it's deserved and it's provided, you know,
Speaker 1: And that was challenging, no doubt, you know, when she'd
Speaker 1: done a TV show and I was home driving to
Speaker 1: Losansinos in the morning, and then you know, building a
Speaker 1: haunted house. As fun as that is, it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's challenging to have different roles and like you said
Speaker 1: about you know, the need to provide and really trying
Speaker 1: to you know, manage that and make sure you pat
Speaker 1: yourself on the back a little bit and go, you know,
Speaker 1: this is a job too, Like the laundry do need
Speaker 1: to get folded, and the house does need to be cleaned,
Speaker 1: and the kids do need to get to school, and
Speaker 1: the lunches do need to be made, and that's equally
Speaker 1: as important.
Speaker 2: I'm lucky to be in your world. You are such
Speaker 2: an evolved man, James Carponell, You really are. You're the
Speaker 2: new age Merue.
Speaker 3: But I appreciate you saying it. I'll take it I'm
Speaker 3: lucky to be in your world. It's great to reconnect
Speaker 3: with you.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for being here. So we're filming
Speaker 2: so Notorious again.
Speaker 3: We are randomly I.
Speaker 1: I used to go to this gym before COVID in
Speaker 1: LA and I would see Vernon Sanders there.
Speaker 3: Do you remember.
Speaker 2: Is he an Amazon Still he's like the like head
Speaker 2: out of Amazon, and he was our champion, was our champion.
Speaker 1: And I went in for a meeting randomly the day
Speaker 1: that like the world shut down for COVID with him.
Speaker 1: But because he's like you know he said at the
Speaker 1: gym one day, he was like, you know something about
Speaker 1: working together and I was like, yeah, you're to God's ears.
Speaker 3: Let's like please.
Speaker 1: But he's such a lovely, lovely man and loved this
Speaker 1: project and I wonder, you know, you were saying, where
Speaker 1: should we do it? I don't know, Like he's he's
Speaker 1: the person over there at Amazon.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I love when nice, kind people actually get ahead in
Speaker 2: this world.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: And he's one of them that was at NBC and
Speaker 2: went out on a limb for us because you know, executives.
Speaker 2: He was an executive there and a lot of people
Speaker 2: were like, oh no, you know and he he would
Speaker 2: come into the editing bay on a Friday night and
Speaker 2: stay all night like he really was invested and everything
Speaker 2: he has is deserved. But Vernon, if you're listening to those,
Speaker 2: hey James Night, Wait, when are you back? September?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, September.
Speaker 2: Okay, put it on your calendar. We're going to take
Speaker 2: pitch meetings. Pitch meetings. I'll sell that shit before we'll
Speaker 2: start filming them.
Speaker 1: Correct, great sounds good, ka him, It was so great
Speaker 1: to see you, great to see.
Speaker 2: Thank you for doing this. There you go, best, Dilf.
Speaker 2: I've never had love that man,