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<v Speaker 1>Miss Spelling with Tory Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been lucky enough so far in my career to

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<v Speaker 2>be surrounded by uber talented people, because then I look

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, my note what I'm doing. But my

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<v Speaker 2>longtime friend James Carpinello, which is a fun callback, I

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<v Speaker 2>just did an episode with my real life best friend,

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<v Speaker 2>doctor Kevin Sands, and James played a version of Kevin

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<v Speaker 2>in the TV show loosely based on my life that

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<v Speaker 2>I co created and produced and start in called So Notorious,

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<v Speaker 2>which was on VH one, And that's how James and

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<v Speaker 2>I met. But James is like, it's not a trifecta,

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<v Speaker 2>like this guy like does everything to start on Broadway

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<v Speaker 2>a little known musical called Saturday Night Fever, playing John

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<v Speaker 2>Travol's's role. He sings, he dances, he's a great actor,

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<v Speaker 2>he's great at comedy. He's gorgeous, he has an amazing wife,

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<v Speaker 2>two children that are super talented, and just a really

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<v Speaker 2>great and funny guy. And he's doing a show right now.

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<v Speaker 2>He's doing a little shop of hors in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>Go check it out. And he is giving his time

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<v Speaker 2>to us today to come on and them share some

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<v Speaker 2>funny stories. So let's bring him in right now. James Carponella,

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<v Speaker 2>whoa HIAI Hi, Oh my gosh, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Am so old. I need readers to see you guys,

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<v Speaker 3>even on a computer screen.

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<v Speaker 2>I have like fifty million pairs. It all comes full

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<v Speaker 2>circle because I just didn't interview. Oh look I have

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<v Speaker 2>new I have teeth.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice, let me see did you get new to you guys?

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<v Speaker 3>New teeth?

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<v Speaker 2>So Kevin so I never had veneers and I had

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<v Speaker 2>a fear of the dentists for years, and my teeth

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<v Speaker 2>I used to have a great smile, and just like

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't take care of it, and just and He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>one day we're putting in Veneers. I'm like, well, I

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<v Speaker 2>was there through dental school, terrified, never letting you put veneers.

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<v Speaker 2>But now world renowned. But I do have a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a lisp. I just got them though, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>adjusting twenty eight veneers.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, you know what's crazy about that?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I am not only did I play Kevin, but

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<v Speaker 1>Pete wasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Really I don't know what you remember. I'm playing the

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<v Speaker 3>dentist in little Shop before is in New York right now?

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<v Speaker 2>He is, and he took time out to come to

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<v Speaker 2>our show, so thank you for doing that. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>have a show tonight?

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<v Speaker 3>I have a show tonight, I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I have so many directions I want to go here

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<v Speaker 2>with you. Okay, they're all perfectly innocent. So we met

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<v Speaker 2>doing So Notorious, which was loosely based on my life.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to say that, right, yeah, no liability from anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>It was. We enhanced it, but it was almost done

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<v Speaker 2>on my life anyway. James Gott cast and played Pete,

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<v Speaker 2>who was based on my best friend and roommate at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, doctor Kevin Sands. That's so interesting because I

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<v Speaker 2>love Little Shopifore's and I was like, oh, that's so

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<v Speaker 2>cool you're playing that role. And I didn't even make

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<v Speaker 2>the connection, like, oh my gosh, you played a dentist

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<v Speaker 2>on TV and in your show. So there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>So I remember originally was for NBC. Then we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get picked up. They picked up My name is Earl.

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<v Speaker 2>Good choice, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's so interesting to think about now, right

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<v Speaker 1>in this landscape of television and where everything you watch

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<v Speaker 1>on your phone or everything's a streamer, like I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was just before the time. It was like in

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<v Speaker 1>a weird custom. They wanted to do original programming, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the whole idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, we were the first.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't really have the audience.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it was all it was a real audience, which

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<v Speaker 2>they thought, you know, we're doing like a semi reality

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<v Speaker 2>based version. Anyway, remember we got all those great reviews.

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<v Speaker 2>That's always the kiss of death, right, ye yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So much fun though.

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<v Speaker 2>It was some of the best times in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so funny because I get intimidated, like because you're

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<v Speaker 2>such like an actor and you've been on Broadway so

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<v Speaker 2>many times and you have that background. But then like

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<v Speaker 2>TV wise, I'm like, yeah, cool, we can roll and

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<v Speaker 2>like hang in that department. So I have two hats

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to you. So I remember in the

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<v Speaker 2>back of my head thinking like, Okay, this is going

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<v Speaker 2>to go so much better with Kevin if it's someone

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<v Speaker 2>that he's going to look at and be like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god. Not only is he a great actor, but

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<v Speaker 2>let's you know, he's vain. So someone great looking, and

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<v Speaker 2>of course we want someone gorgeous, because Kevin, you're gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 2>And like I remember, NBC was like there was another

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<v Speaker 2>guy and he was very talented and very funny, but

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<v Speaker 2>he wasn't a sound and funny as you, and he

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<v Speaker 2>was not good looking. And I remember we were like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it had it had to be you.

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<v Speaker 3>Why.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even tell him this was happening until I

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<v Speaker 2>could present him with yeah, and then I told him

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<v Speaker 2>to come to set, and he came to set, and

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<v Speaker 2>then that's when we did the pilot and he met you.

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<v Speaker 2>And after that he was like, you have my blessing

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<v Speaker 2>to do whatever you want. Like just look at those eyes,

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<v Speaker 2>look at him, smile great. I was like, cool, can

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<v Speaker 2>we rename Kevin? He's like nope, So oh I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was talking the other day to Kevin about this

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't even know if you remember this, but

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<v Speaker 2>and I can't say his name Joe Magnio.

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<v Speaker 3>Manganello.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh good, so you.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't say I can't say it either. I think it's fine. Dude.

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<v Speaker 2>Should have changed his name to Figara, but that didn't

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<v Speaker 2>work out either. But anyway, great guy, great guy. So NBC,

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<v Speaker 2>after we did our first table read, wanted to recast him.

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<v Speaker 2>Really they did. I didn't tell you this part. No, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and we see it was like we don't think he

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<v Speaker 2>has like star quality. This guy we want. He was

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<v Speaker 2>only going to be on for two episodes, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>her love interest. We want someone that's you know, people

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<v Speaker 2>are gonna want to see now more. And we just

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<v Speaker 2>don't think he has the it factor. Okay, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>now he's.

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<v Speaker 1>A big giant star. You know, he went to college.

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<v Speaker 1>He went to Carnegie Mellon with me. He was younger

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<v Speaker 1>than I was. But then, yeah, that was cool, and

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<v Speaker 1>then of course he blew up, can.

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<v Speaker 2>We go back to how I killed your comedy career?

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't kill my comedy career.

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<v Speaker 1>I find it all so funny, you know that you

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<v Speaker 1>you sort of my agent now that did this one

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<v Speaker 1>thing one time, which was really funny because I was complaining.

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<v Speaker 3>Why do you know I grew up like this?

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<v Speaker 1>I did two comedy pilots when I came out. Here

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<v Speaker 1>is the first thing I've done. I've done Broadway shows

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<v Speaker 1>where I played complete fools and clowns. And why why

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<v Speaker 1>can't I get seen for blah blah blah? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I reactors like, why can't I get seen for blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah blah. And he did this thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, are you your computer? And I was like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, go to your email and he set

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<v Speaker 1>forwarded me my reel and it was literally like one

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<v Speaker 1>like what you're talking about, after another, like.

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<v Speaker 3>Back to back to back to back to back.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you know, at a certain point you can't you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't put clips from a pilot you did when

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<v Speaker 1>you were twenty two or twenty three. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>got to sort of be age appropriate. But so it

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<v Speaker 1>had nothing to do with that. I just always found

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<v Speaker 1>it funny that for there was a shift where I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't or it wasn't seen very often for comedies, for pilots.

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<v Speaker 3>It was very frustrating, which is.

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<v Speaker 2>So odd to me because you have amazing comedic talent

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<v Speaker 2>like timing. Your timing's done on and you're gorgeous, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's like it's a win win for them all around.

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<v Speaker 2>But we know how that world works.

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<v Speaker 3>It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, Should we bring so Notorious back?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you're available, you're always booked, but you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'm not always booked.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll have my agent talk to your agent. Talk to Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>she's my old agent. Hey, Ruth can and your old agent.

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<v Speaker 3>You should bring it back. You should do it. You

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<v Speaker 3>ever talked to Zach duh.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're talking about So Notorious. James played my best

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<v Speaker 2>friend Pete on So Notorious, based loosely based on my

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<v Speaker 2>real life best friend Kevin, and Zach Quinto played Soson

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<v Speaker 2>loosely based on my other real best friend Maron. So

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<v Speaker 2>we all have busy lives and you mean to stay

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<v Speaker 2>in contact with everyone and you don't. But then when

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<v Speaker 2>you see them or talk to them, you're like, you

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<v Speaker 2>go right back. It's like high school. We're like high school,

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<v Speaker 2>like you go right back to your old friends. And

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<v Speaker 2>Zach and I like hadn't talked for years, and then

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<v Speaker 2>he DMed me and I was like, oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>So he was like, hey, I'm back in la I'd

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<v Speaker 2>love to reconnect. So we set a lunch and we

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<v Speaker 2>were supposed to go have lunch and then I fainted.

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<v Speaker 2>This is in August. I fainted and got a concussion

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<v Speaker 2>and had to go to the er, and I in

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<v Speaker 2>the er, I was concerned. This is what I was

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<v Speaker 2>concerned about, which is so weird. I had a full concussion,

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<v Speaker 2>like blacked out. My daughter had to call the ambulance.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like a whole situation. I was like but wait.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm supposed to meet Zach for lunch and

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, my soon to be ex had arrived

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<v Speaker 2>at the hospital and he goes, Oh my gosh, he goes,

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<v Speaker 2>she's in This is worse than we thought. She's talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Zach. That was like seventeen eighteen years ago. She

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<v Speaker 2>was friends with him and on a TV show she

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't seen him in years, and I was like, no, hello,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm right here, I'm fine, Like, I'm fine, I actually

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like proof. I was like, see, Zach

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<v Speaker 2>and I were supposed to have lunch today. Can you

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<v Speaker 2>call him? Cancel with him? Thank you?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, that's hysterical, Like this is worse than

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<v Speaker 3>I thought.

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<v Speaker 2>It's worst than I thought. Zach quinto she doesn't talked

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<v Speaker 2>to him in seventeen years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, have you are you serious? Do you really want

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<v Speaker 3>to bring it back? That would be.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I really do. I mean, no time like the present.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a big shift going on in my life, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think it would be great.

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<v Speaker 3>Would it be your life now?

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<v Speaker 1>Meaning like all of this stuff that's happening you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and or has happened since the previous so notorious or

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<v Speaker 1>where would you.

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<v Speaker 2>Pick up, it would be a blend, just like we

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<v Speaker 2>did at the time. I feel like a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the stories, I was like, oh my gosh, this happened

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<v Speaker 2>in my teens, But now I was were we supped

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<v Speaker 2>topan our twenties? You're way younger than me. Wait, how

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<v Speaker 2>old are you now?

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<v Speaker 3>Not I'm almost fifty. I'm going to be forty nine

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<v Speaker 3>in August.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it so and I just turned fifty one. Sorry

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<v Speaker 2>to clarify that. I would incorporate things that have happened

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<v Speaker 2>in the last like probably ten years, but present them and

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<v Speaker 2>story wise like up to date and everything going on? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, is it art entertaining life? Life? Imintaining art?

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<v Speaker 2>How do we even recreate the podcast on the show?

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<v Speaker 2>Because you would be playing Kevin, but you're also playing James.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, maybe there's something there, Maybe there.

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<v Speaker 3>Is something there? Can I write? Does he still drive

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<v Speaker 3>a Ferrari?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Do you remember that?

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<v Speaker 3>I just remember. I just remember he drew a Ferrari?

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<v Speaker 3>And now I was like, why why didn't I become

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<v Speaker 3>a dentist? Like why am I actor?

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<v Speaker 2>Multiple ferraris? He has an office in Dubai. He sees

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<v Speaker 2>everybody in the world, like it's the craziest thing. But

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<v Speaker 2>he always says, going back, those were the best days

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<v Speaker 2>of his life. Like we were how old then, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean in our twenties. I mean, and you guys, we

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<v Speaker 2>used to go out, we used to do everything. You not

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<v Speaker 2>straight lace, that's not the right word. You are a

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<v Speaker 2>very respectful person to your wife, to women, to men,

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<v Speaker 2>to everybody. Like we go out and you'd be like,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd have some beers. You'd be like, I gotta go home.

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<v Speaker 2>And you were responsible. That's the word. You were always responsible.

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<v Speaker 1>I was always, and I've said this to a million

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<v Speaker 1>people about you, I was always super impressed with you,

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<v Speaker 1>and frankly, not that I thought otherwise, But I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>like a huge nine to two one oho fan.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I know I saw it. I know it

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<v Speaker 3>was a part of like are growing up. But I

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<v Speaker 3>was just the way.

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<v Speaker 1>The best part of so notorious for me was that

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<v Speaker 1>you were such a great actor, Like, and I've told

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<v Speaker 1>everybody who I've worked with on that that you were

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<v Speaker 1>just so great. I would sit there mesmerized by how

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<v Speaker 1>you could. You were essentially playing yourself. So one would

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<v Speaker 1>think that's easy, but I would argue that's way harder

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<v Speaker 1>than that, because I mean, maybe not for you, but

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<v Speaker 1>watching you do it, I was like, man, like this

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<v Speaker 1>is this takes a lot of skill and attention, and

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<v Speaker 1>you were always prepared and it was like it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was really inspiring, and I was bummed when it

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<v Speaker 1>ended because I thought that was one of the best

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<v Speaker 1>qualities of the show is how good you were at

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<v Speaker 1>I mean a theory portraying yourself but doing it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>your comic timing was obviously great. There were gentle, sweet

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<v Speaker 1>moments in the piece and certain episodes that were that

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<v Speaker 1>really played quite well. And I just I remember being

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<v Speaker 1>there and being like, man, she's really good.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know Whitney Cummings, I mean you know of her,

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<v Speaker 2>but have you met her?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>I funny enough, I met her through it through another

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<v Speaker 1>friend years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they were dating before.

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<v Speaker 1>She was you know, Whitney Cummings, like very famous and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but no I don't. I don't know her,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have met her, but it was years and

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<v Speaker 1>years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, you guys would love each other. But she's very

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<v Speaker 2>much art sense of humor. But she huge so notorious

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<v Speaker 2>fan and she's always like yeah, uh, she wants to

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<v Speaker 2>bring it back, and I always we're friends. Now we met,

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<v Speaker 2>it's funny on she like slid into my DMS and

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't see it for like a year, and then

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden one day I was just like

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<v Speaker 2>scrolling and I was like, Whitney Cummings, are you shitting me?

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, Hi, I didn't see this. And

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<v Speaker 2>then we became fast friends. But she always says, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I'm gonna bring that back, and I'm always like, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm hold of you to that, and she's like but

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<v Speaker 2>like the self deprecating thing. She's like, we're gonna like

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<v Speaker 2>rebrand you. Like that's funny to a certain extent, but

0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:42.240
<v Speaker 2>there's way more to you. I'm like, cool. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>where would we put so notorious? We could do so

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<v Speaker 2>many things now, we could say anything we wanted to say.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, it would be it would be genius.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait do you remember that? Okay, First of all, sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna talk about your wife for a second, because

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<v Speaker 2>I love your wife, Amy Acker, who I did not realize.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to work on your social media presence because

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<v Speaker 2>she's crushing that, and you got to up your empty

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<v Speaker 2>I do.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, here's the thing I don't understand. We are past this.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was in this conversation with this youngster in

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<v Speaker 1>our show the other night yesterday maybe about just like

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<v Speaker 1>the implications of social media, and also like he had

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<v Speaker 1>just done the Apple vision pro thing and like the

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<v Speaker 1>you know the glasses that are if you.

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<v Speaker 3>Try to mind blowing, it's sick.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But I feel like I'm almost fifty, so I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like the really bad stuff that's going to happen

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<v Speaker 1>from all of this, like for our humanity kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like I kind of feel the same way about social media,

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<v Speaker 1>like I could take it or leave it. The problem

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<v Speaker 1>for it with me is that I got addicted to

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<v Speaker 1>I'm addicted to TikTok. And I don't mean like I

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<v Speaker 1>put tiktoks out like I it has replaced anything I

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<v Speaker 1>do in my free time, Like I just scroll through

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok and Amy hates that I do that. But I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>now I've just didn't. At first, I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a problem, like this is how I relax

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<v Speaker 1>at night before I fall asleep, And then now it's

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<v Speaker 1>like I now I can fully just admit, like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>addicted to TikTok.

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<v Speaker 2>So you've been married to Amy since two thousand and three.

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<v Speaker 3>That's twenty one years.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty one years. It is wild like it is so

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<v Speaker 2>and she's so beautiful and so talented. And I guess

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<v Speaker 2>this is something I've always wondered about because you were

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<v Speaker 2>there when Deane and I met. I was we had

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<v Speaker 2>done the pilot, right, but when you.

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<v Speaker 1>Did the pilot, I'm going to go for a deep

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<v Speaker 1>dive if I remember this.

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<v Speaker 3>I went, was it Charlie.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll always let you one because you're cute, But yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you still with Charlie when we did the pilot

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<v Speaker 1>because there was a break, So I I think we

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<v Speaker 1>met when we came got picked up right, right?

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<v Speaker 2>So what happened was I, yes, I married for a

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<v Speaker 2>year and then we did so notorious. We did the pilot,

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<v Speaker 2>which then didn't get picked up by NBC. Then we

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<v Speaker 2>got it picked up with VH one, and while I

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<v Speaker 2>was gone for that summer making a TV movie in Canada,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I met Dean and then well the rest

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<v Speaker 2>is history. But I blame I don't blame anyone. I'm mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm super happy. I'm grateful. We have five beautiful kids.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't change a moment of my journey, and Dean

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<v Speaker 2>and I are super amicable and everything's great. But I

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<v Speaker 2>always jokingly blame our one of our creators, Chris Alborghini,

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<v Speaker 2>because that night we had like thread through and the

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<v Speaker 2>cast get together and we all and crew and everyone

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<v Speaker 2>went home, and Dean and I stayed, and Mike, of

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<v Speaker 2>course Grandma Chessler went back to the hotel and Chris

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<v Speaker 2>Alberghini stayed. And I'm like, this is your fault, Like

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<v Speaker 2>you let this happen. He's like, I let it happen

0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:03.440
<v Speaker 2>that you crawled across me to get to him and

0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:05.959
<v Speaker 2>kissed him in the middle of like a bar, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, yep, but yeah. So we came back

0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:12.080
<v Speaker 2>from that and Charlie was actually going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>writer on So Notorious.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I remember, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a really difficult thing because while he very talented writer,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's how I met him is I was in

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<v Speaker 2>a play that with him that he wrote, he was

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<v Speaker 2>very reserved when it came to females. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think there was a part of me that I

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<v Speaker 2>could be reserved. I could be Donna Martin, even though

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know nine or two and zero. But I

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<v Speaker 2>could also be I'm messing with you. Oh hey, James,

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<v Speaker 2>what'd you do with the Donna? Martin dahll On? So Notorious?

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin and I discussed this story, and I talked about

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<v Speaker 2>it in such an inappropriate way we had to cut

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<v Speaker 2>the whole story. Oh my gosh, do you remember the part?

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<v Speaker 2>I was just telling a friend this the other day.

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<v Speaker 2>So in the big party scene, and this was based

0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:11.480
<v Speaker 2>on a true story where Kevin, who was Pete who

0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:14.520
<v Speaker 2>you played on the show. There's a big party in

0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:19.119
<v Speaker 2>the apartment and a lot of chaos ensues, and the

0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:22.080
<v Speaker 2>biggest thing is I on the bar had my sea monkeys.

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<v Speaker 2>I had kept alive for a year and a half

0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:27.040
<v Speaker 2>and someone knocked them over. And I told a friend

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<v Speaker 2>the story that I had sea monkeys and he was like, oh,

0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:32.479
<v Speaker 2>sea monkeys, it's not a thing. They don't work. I'm like, no,

0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:35.360
<v Speaker 2>they do work. I kept ones alive for a year

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<v Speaker 2>and a half and he was like, I don't believe that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, let me find it. It's so hard to

0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:42.680
<v Speaker 2>find So Notorious. You really can't view it.

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<v Speaker 3>I have the DVD.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you burn it for me?

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<v Speaker 3>He's in like the box set at my house.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, I need to see that because I can't

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<v Speaker 2>find clips. It's hard to like I tell people's stories.

0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:56.040
<v Speaker 2>They're like, I don't believe you. I'm like, well made

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<v Speaker 2>a TV show based on it. Let me just show

0:19:57.640 --> 0:19:59.440
<v Speaker 2>you that, and then I can't find the TV show.

0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:03.160
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, Sea Monkeys, Living Proof they were everywhere. Sorry

0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:06.800
<v Speaker 2>before we go. It's interesting that everything came full circle

0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:09.520
<v Speaker 2>because not only did we meet become friends, starting a

0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:11.920
<v Speaker 2>show together where you played my best friend, but then

0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:15.359
<v Speaker 2>years later our kids ended up going to school together.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for like a year. When we were at Losancinos,

0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:21.520
<v Speaker 3>Ava was there two years.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, and Jack was already older, right he was, he was.

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<v Speaker 3>He did sixth grade there because we were coming back.

0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:28.960
<v Speaker 2>From You're in New York, right, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Work, and we just needed a landing spot.

0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:32.960
<v Speaker 1>And our friends Nica and Justin said, you got to

0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:35.560
<v Speaker 1>look at this place, and we just fell in love

0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:35.760
<v Speaker 1>with it.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's where we were for elementary.

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<v Speaker 2>School, which you know how parents are all parents are

0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:45.080
<v Speaker 2>like and teachers and they were all like, oh this

0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:47.920
<v Speaker 2>actor family. The husband and wife were both actors, and

0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:51.280
<v Speaker 2>the kids are coming in. I was just listening and

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know. I think I didn't know you were

0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:57.240
<v Speaker 2>coming there, and I heard your name and I was

0:20:57.280 --> 0:21:00.119
<v Speaker 2>like huh and I was like what. And then and

0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:01.760
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden we were at like back to

0:21:01.800 --> 0:21:06.199
<v Speaker 2>school night and you were there, but yeah, and I

0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:08.159
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh my gosh. And so Liam and Ava

0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:12.840
<v Speaker 2>were in the same class together, which is I was

0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:14.960
<v Speaker 2>showing Liam last night. I'm like, oh my gosh. I'm like,

0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:18.119
<v Speaker 2>so James is coming on the show tomorrow and and

0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:20.440
<v Speaker 2>I was like, have you ever have you reconnected with

0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Ava since? Then He's like no. And then he came

0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:26.280
<v Speaker 2>in and he goes, mom, have you seen what Ava

0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:30.520
<v Speaker 2>looks like? And I was like she was always hot.

0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:34.520
<v Speaker 2>I was like, uh, so gorgeous. So is Jack. I

0:21:34.560 --> 0:21:38.240
<v Speaker 2>can't believe all the things they are doing, Like you

0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:42.280
<v Speaker 2>and Amy, well creative, amazing, talented children the two of

0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:46.160
<v Speaker 2>you brought onto this planet. But behind the scenes, everyone

0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:48.639
<v Speaker 2>at school was just like and I'm not talking like

0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:52.119
<v Speaker 2>every mom was like, oh my god, that dad is

0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:55.639
<v Speaker 2>so hot, Like you, what is it called dilf dolf?

0:21:56.080 --> 0:22:00.600
<v Speaker 3>Sure that vibe there, but well maybe I'm just there.

0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:05.240
<v Speaker 2>They're not going to let you know. So every every mother,

0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:08.560
<v Speaker 2>yeah exactly, and I just pretend like I didn't even

0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:11.720
<v Speaker 2>know you and just be like listen, and every mother

0:22:11.800 --> 0:22:14.800
<v Speaker 2>there was just like, oh my god, he's so gorgeous.

0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:17.240
<v Speaker 2>Every day was like, oh I wish I look like

0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:21.880
<v Speaker 2>that guy. And all the teachers were just like whoa.

0:22:22.040 --> 0:22:25.520
<v Speaker 2>But it was so funny because you wouldn't even think

0:22:25.560 --> 0:22:29.119
<v Speaker 2>about it, but like everything behind the scenes, they'd be like,

0:22:29.359 --> 0:22:32.640
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, it was die Like James Carponella is coming

0:22:32.680 --> 0:22:35.560
<v Speaker 2>in to set up the stage. He like you would

0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:38.560
<v Speaker 2>come and do like the labor there, and like.

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<v Speaker 1>It's my it's my love language. Acts of service. I've

0:22:43.760 --> 0:22:46.000
<v Speaker 1>learned this in my later life. I don't think I

0:22:46.080 --> 0:22:48.280
<v Speaker 1>knew it as much then, But that's like what that's

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<v Speaker 1>like what I do. Like if I do stuff for people,

0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:52.960
<v Speaker 1>it makes me feel good, and that's not I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll never fix for me back in the day, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, but like like if you literally called me and

0:22:58.080 --> 0:22:59.760
<v Speaker 1>I was in LA and You're like, I need someone

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<v Speaker 1>to and hang. We were going to start a company

0:23:02.320 --> 0:23:04.159
<v Speaker 1>because I was like glowing to our friend's houses and

0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:06.800
<v Speaker 1>hanging pictures and I was going to pretty well hung.

0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:15.040
<v Speaker 3>But I'm bump exactly my friend Jody came up with that. Actually,

0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:15.600
<v Speaker 3>so I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll invest in that company.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeahs enough Jody Harris.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember her. But yeah, So you would show up

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<v Speaker 2>and like, I'm blanking on what it was? What is

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<v Speaker 2>the thing at Halloween? They would have like the house, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was just like it almost to a fault,

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<v Speaker 2>got annoying, like who's like, who's coming in to do

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<v Speaker 2>do this? Oh, it's James James, and it's just they'd

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<v Speaker 2>all be like, oh, yeah, James Carmona is coming in.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to screw in a light bulb. And they'd

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<v Speaker 2>all just be like and he would show up and

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<v Speaker 2>like in his T shirt and just like they would

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<v Speaker 2>just all be oggling you. And I'd be like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, this is just so funny to me because

0:23:57.520 --> 0:23:59.760
<v Speaker 2>I obviously you're hot, but I don't think of you

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<v Speaker 2>that like because we have known each other for so long.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was just interesting that it was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it all came full circle. Two actors in the business.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how you guys have this relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>It's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Raising kids is hard, it is, and be at two

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<v Speaker 1>people in the business, it's hard. But we've been lucky

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<v Speaker 1>in the sense that those times when I was in

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<v Speaker 1>a T shirt screwing in light bulbs at Losncino has

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<v Speaker 1>meant that I wasn't working, or that I could be

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<v Speaker 1>with the kids, or I could help out there because

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<v Speaker 1>Amy was on a TV show somewhere making money to

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<v Speaker 1>support the fact that I could screw in a light

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<v Speaker 1>bulb and a T shirt at the school haunted house.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that sort of balance, you know, has

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<v Speaker 1>always been We've been lucky that way.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what I feel like from knowing you both

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<v Speaker 2>this long is you really don't have egos and it's

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<v Speaker 2>not an easy business to be in, and especially I

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<v Speaker 2>hate to say this with men in entertainment, you know

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<v Speaker 2>you always feel like men are like you know, go

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<v Speaker 2>back to like I'm just provide and protect and this

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<v Speaker 2>is my role and it's ingrained in us. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing's perfect. But you, guys, I've watched you over the

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<v Speaker 2>years seamlessly transition back and forth and truly be equals

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<v Speaker 2>in a partnership and it's really nice. And I hope

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<v Speaker 2>I find my Amy someday. Wait that sound right.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that you got you know, you've worked your

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<v Speaker 1>whole life, job to job to job to jobs job,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, Amy's very much like that too. She

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<v Speaker 1>had a career that was it'd be easy to say

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<v Speaker 1>she's lucky, but she's really good at it, Like she's

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<v Speaker 1>really good, and so it's deserved and it's provided, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And that was challenging, no doubt, you know, when she'd

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<v Speaker 1>done a TV show and I was home driving to

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<v Speaker 1>Losansinos in the morning, and then you know, building a

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<v Speaker 1>haunted house. As fun as that is, it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's challenging to have different roles and like you said

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<v Speaker 1>about you know, the need to provide and really trying

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, manage that and make sure you pat

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<v Speaker 1>yourself on the back a little bit and go, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a job too, Like the laundry do need

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<v Speaker 1>to get folded, and the house does need to be cleaned,

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<v Speaker 1>and the kids do need to get to school, and

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<v Speaker 1>the lunches do need to be made, and that's equally

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<v Speaker 1>as important.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm lucky to be in your world. You are such

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<v Speaker 2>an evolved man, James Carponell, You really are. You're the

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<v Speaker 2>new age Merue.

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<v Speaker 3>But I appreciate you saying it. I'll take it I'm

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<v Speaker 3>lucky to be in your world. It's great to reconnect

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<v Speaker 3>with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you for being here. So we're filming

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<v Speaker 2>so Notorious again.

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<v Speaker 3>We are randomly I.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to go to this gym before COVID in

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<v Speaker 1>LA and I would see Vernon Sanders there.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you remember.

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<v Speaker 2>Is he an Amazon Still he's like the like head

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<v Speaker 2>out of Amazon, and he was our champion, was our champion.

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<v Speaker 1>And I went in for a meeting randomly the day

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<v Speaker 1>that like the world shut down for COVID with him.

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<v Speaker 1>But because he's like you know he said at the

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<v Speaker 1>gym one day, he was like, you know something about

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<v Speaker 1>working together and I was like, yeah, you're to God's ears.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's like please.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's such a lovely, lovely man and loved this

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<v Speaker 1>project and I wonder, you know, you were saying, where

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:10.200
<v Speaker 1>should we do it? I don't know, Like he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>the person over there at Amazon.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I love when nice, kind people actually get ahead in

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<v Speaker 2>this world.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's one of them that was at NBC and

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<v Speaker 2>went out on a limb for us because you know, executives.

0:27:29.880 --> 0:27:32.000
<v Speaker 2>He was an executive there and a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>were like, oh no, you know and he he would

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<v Speaker 2>come into the editing bay on a Friday night and

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<v Speaker 2>stay all night like he really was invested and everything

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<v Speaker 2>he has is deserved. But Vernon, if you're listening to those,

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<v Speaker 2>hey James Night, Wait, when are you back? September?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, September.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, put it on your calendar. We're going to take

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 2>pitch meetings. Pitch meetings. I'll sell that shit before we'll

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<v Speaker 2>start filming them.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct, great sounds good, ka him, It was so great

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<v Speaker 1>to see you, great to see.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for doing this. There you go, best, Dilf.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never had love that man,