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Speaker 1: Miss Spelling with Tory Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 2: I've been lucky enough so far in my career to

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Speaker 2: be surrounded by uber talented people, because then I look

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Speaker 2: like I said, my note what I'm doing. But my

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Speaker 2: longtime friend James Carpinello, which is a fun callback, I

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Speaker 2: just did an episode with my real life best friend,

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Speaker 2: doctor Kevin Sands, and James played a version of Kevin

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Speaker 2: in the TV show loosely based on my life that

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Speaker 2: I co created and produced and start in called So Notorious,

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Speaker 2: which was on VH one, And that's how James and

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Speaker 2: I met. But James is like, it's not a trifecta,

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Speaker 2: like this guy like does everything to start on Broadway

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Speaker 2: a little known musical called Saturday Night Fever, playing John

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Speaker 2: Travol's's role. He sings, he dances, he's a great actor,

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Speaker 2: he's great at comedy. He's gorgeous, he has an amazing wife,

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Speaker 2: two children that are super talented, and just a really

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Speaker 2: great and funny guy. And he's doing a show right now.

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Speaker 2: He's doing a little shop of hors in New York.

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Speaker 2: Go check it out. And he is giving his time

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Speaker 2: to us today to come on and them share some

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Speaker 2: funny stories. So let's bring him in right now. James Carponella,

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Speaker 2: whoa HIAI Hi, Oh my gosh, I.

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Speaker 3: Am so old. I need readers to see you guys,

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Speaker 3: even on a computer screen.

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Speaker 2: I have like fifty million pairs. It all comes full

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Speaker 2: circle because I just didn't interview. Oh look I have

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Speaker 2: new I have teeth.

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Speaker 3: Nice, let me see did you get new to you guys?

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Speaker 3: New teeth?

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Speaker 2: So Kevin so I never had veneers and I had

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Speaker 2: a fear of the dentists for years, and my teeth

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Speaker 2: I used to have a great smile, and just like

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Speaker 2: I didn't take care of it, and just and He's like,

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Speaker 2: one day we're putting in Veneers. I'm like, well, I

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Speaker 2: was there through dental school, terrified, never letting you put veneers.

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Speaker 2: But now world renowned. But I do have a little

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Speaker 2: bit of a lisp. I just got them though, I'm

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Speaker 2: adjusting twenty eight veneers.

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Speaker 3: Wow, you know what's crazy about that?

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Speaker 1: Well, I am not only did I play Kevin, but

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Speaker 1: Pete wasn't.

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Speaker 3: Really I don't know what you remember. I'm playing the

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Speaker 3: dentist in little Shop before is in New York right now?

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Speaker 2: He is, and he took time out to come to

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Speaker 2: our show, so thank you for doing that. Do you

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Speaker 2: have a show tonight?

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Speaker 3: I have a show tonight, I do.

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Speaker 2: I have so many directions I want to go here

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Speaker 2: with you. Okay, they're all perfectly innocent. So we met

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Speaker 2: doing So Notorious, which was loosely based on my life.

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Speaker 2: I had to say that, right, yeah, no liability from anybody.

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Speaker 2: It was. We enhanced it, but it was almost done

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Speaker 2: on my life anyway. James Gott cast and played Pete,

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Speaker 2: who was based on my best friend and roommate at

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Speaker 2: the time, doctor Kevin Sands. That's so interesting because I

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Speaker 2: love Little Shopifore's and I was like, oh, that's so

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Speaker 2: cool you're playing that role. And I didn't even make

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Speaker 2: the connection, like, oh my gosh, you played a dentist

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Speaker 2: on TV and in your show. So there you go.

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Speaker 2: So I remember originally was for NBC. Then we didn't

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Speaker 2: get picked up. They picked up My name is Earl.

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Speaker 2: Good choice, I guess.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's so interesting to think about now, right

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Speaker 1: in this landscape of television and where everything you watch

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Speaker 1: on your phone or everything's a streamer, like I think

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Speaker 1: it was just before the time. It was like in

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Speaker 1: a weird custom. They wanted to do original programming, right,

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Speaker 1: that was the whole idea.

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Speaker 2: Right, we were the first.

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Speaker 3: They didn't really have the audience.

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Speaker 2: No, it was all it was a real audience, which

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Speaker 2: they thought, you know, we're doing like a semi reality

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Speaker 2: based version. Anyway, remember we got all those great reviews.

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Speaker 2: That's always the kiss of death, right, ye yeah.

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Speaker 3: So much fun though.

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Speaker 2: It was some of the best times in my life.

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Speaker 2: It's so funny because I get intimidated, like because you're

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Speaker 2: when it comes to you. So I remember in the

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Speaker 2: back of my head thinking like, Okay, this is going

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Speaker 2: to go so much better with Kevin if it's someone

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Speaker 2: let's you know, he's vain. So someone great looking, and

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Speaker 2: of course we want someone gorgeous, because Kevin, you're gorgeous.

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Speaker 2: And like I remember, NBC was like there was another

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Speaker 2: was not good looking. And I remember we were like, no,

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Speaker 2: it had it had to be you.

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Speaker 3: Why.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even tell him this was happening until I

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Speaker 2: could present him with yeah, and then I told him

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Speaker 2: then that's when we did the pilot and he met you.

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Speaker 2: And after that he was like, you have my blessing

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Speaker 2: to do whatever you want. Like just look at those eyes,

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Speaker 2: look at him, smile great. I was like, cool, can

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Speaker 2: we rename Kevin? He's like nope, So oh I was.

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Speaker 2: I was talking the other day to Kevin about this

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Speaker 2: and I don't even know if you remember this, but

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Speaker 2: and I can't say his name Joe Magnio.

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Speaker 3: Manganello.

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Speaker 2: Oh good, so you.

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Speaker 3: Can't say I can't say it either. I think it's fine. Dude.

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Speaker 2: Should have changed his name to Figara, but that didn't

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Speaker 2: work out either. But anyway, great guy, great guy. So NBC,

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Speaker 2: Really they did. I didn't tell you this part. No, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and we see it was like we don't think he

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Speaker 2: has like star quality. This guy we want. He was

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Speaker 2: only going to be on for two episodes, but it's

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Speaker 2: her love interest. We want someone that's you know, people

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Speaker 2: don't think he has the it factor. Okay, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: now he's.

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Speaker 1: A big giant star. You know, he went to college.

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Speaker 1: He went to Carnegie Mellon with me. He was younger

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Speaker 1: then of course he blew up, can.

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Speaker 2: We go back to how I killed your comedy career?

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Speaker 3: You didn't kill my comedy career.

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Speaker 1: I find it all so funny, you know that you

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Speaker 1: you sort of my agent now that did this one

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Speaker 3: Why do you know I grew up like this?

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Speaker 1: I did two comedy pilots when I came out. Here

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Speaker 1: is the first thing I've done. I've done Broadway shows

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Speaker 1: where I played complete fools and clowns. And why why

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Speaker 1: can't I get seen for blah blah blah? You know,

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Speaker 1: I reactors like, why can't I get seen for blah

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Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. And he did this thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: He's like, are you your computer? And I was like yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he's like, go to your email and he set

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Speaker 1: forwarded me my reel and it was literally like one

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Speaker 1: like what you're talking about, after another, like.

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Speaker 3: Back to back to back to back to back.

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Speaker 1: Because you know, at a certain point you can't you know,

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Speaker 1: you can't put clips from a pilot you did when

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Speaker 1: you were twenty two or twenty three. You know, you

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Speaker 1: got to sort of be age appropriate. But so it

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Speaker 1: had nothing to do with that. I just always found

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Speaker 1: it funny that for there was a shift where I

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Speaker 1: couldn't or it wasn't seen very often for comedies, for pilots.

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Speaker 3: It was very frustrating, which is.

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Speaker 2: So odd to me because you have amazing comedic talent

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Speaker 2: like timing. Your timing's done on and you're gorgeous, so

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Speaker 2: it's like it's a win win for them all around.

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Speaker 2: But we know how that world works.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Should we bring so Notorious back?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're available, you're always booked, but you know.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm not always booked.

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Speaker 2: I'll have my agent talk to your agent. Talk to Oh,

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Speaker 2: she's my old agent. Hey, Ruth can and your old agent.

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Speaker 3: You should bring it back. You should do it. You

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Speaker 3: ever talked to Zach duh.

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Speaker 2: So we're talking about So Notorious. James played my best

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Speaker 2: friend Pete on So Notorious, based loosely based on my

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Speaker 2: real life best friend Kevin, and Zach Quinto played Soson

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Speaker 2: loosely based on my other real best friend Maron. So

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Speaker 2: we all have busy lives and you mean to stay

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Speaker 2: in contact with everyone and you don't. But then when

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Speaker 2: you see them or talk to them, you're like, you

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Speaker 2: go right back. It's like high school. We're like high school,

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Speaker 2: like you go right back to your old friends. And

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Speaker 2: Zach and I like hadn't talked for years, and then

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Speaker 2: he DMed me and I was like, oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: So he was like, hey, I'm back in la I'd

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Speaker 2: love to reconnect. So we set a lunch and we

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Speaker 2: were supposed to go have lunch and then I fainted.

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Speaker 2: This is in August. I fainted and got a concussion

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Speaker 2: and had to go to the er, and I in

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Speaker 2: the er, I was concerned. This is what I was

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Speaker 2: concerned about, which is so weird. I had a full concussion,

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Speaker 2: like blacked out. My daughter had to call the ambulance.

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Speaker 2: It was like a whole situation. I was like but wait.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm supposed to meet Zach for lunch and

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Speaker 2: at the time, my soon to be ex had arrived

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Speaker 2: at the hospital and he goes, Oh my gosh, he goes,

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Speaker 2: she's in This is worse than we thought. She's talking

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Speaker 2: about Zach. That was like seventeen eighteen years ago. She

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Speaker 2: was friends with him and on a TV show she

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Speaker 2: hasn't seen him in years, and I was like, no, hello,

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Speaker 2: I'm right here, I'm fine, Like, I'm fine, I actually

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Speaker 2: and I was like proof. I was like, see, Zach

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Speaker 2: and I were supposed to have lunch today. Can you

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Speaker 2: call him? Cancel with him? Thank you?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's hysterical, Like this is worse than

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Speaker 3: I thought.

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Speaker 2: It's worst than I thought. Zach quinto she doesn't talked

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Speaker 2: to him in seventeen years.

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Speaker 3: Yep, have you are you serious? Do you really want

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Speaker 3: to bring it back? That would be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I really do. I mean, no time like the present.

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Speaker 2: There's a big shift going on in my life, and

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Speaker 2: I think it would be great.

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Speaker 3: Would it be your life now?

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Speaker 1: Meaning like all of this stuff that's happening you know,

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Speaker 1: and or has happened since the previous so notorious or

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Speaker 1: where would you.

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Speaker 2: Pick up, it would be a blend, just like we

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Speaker 2: did at the time. I feel like a lot of

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Speaker 2: the stories, I was like, oh my gosh, this happened

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Speaker 2: in my teens, But now I was were we supped

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Speaker 2: topan our twenties? You're way younger than me. Wait, how

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Speaker 2: old are you now?

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Speaker 3: Not I'm almost fifty. I'm going to be forty nine

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Speaker 3: in August.

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Speaker 2: That's it so and I just turned fifty one. Sorry

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Speaker 2: to clarify that. I would incorporate things that have happened

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Speaker 2: in the last like probably ten years, but present them and

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Speaker 2: story wise like up to date and everything going on? Now?

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Speaker 2: there's way more to you. I'm like, cool. So anyway,

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Speaker 2: Wait do you remember that? Okay, First of all, sorry,

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Speaker 3: Try to mind blowing, it's sick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But I feel like I'm almost fifty, so I

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Speaker 2: So you've been married to Amy since two thousand and three.

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Speaker 3: That's twenty one years.

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Speaker 3: I went, was it Charlie.

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Speaker 2: I'll always let you one because you're cute, But yep.

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Speaker 2: So what happened was I, yes, I married for a

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Speaker 2: could also be I'm messing with you. Oh hey, James,

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Speaker 2: what'd you do with the Donna? Martin dahll On? So Notorious?

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Speaker 2: Kevin and I discussed this story, and I talked about

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Speaker 2: Can you burn it for me?

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Speaker 3: He's in like the box set at my house.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for like a year. When we were at Losancinos,

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Speaker 2: know you and just be like listen, and every mother

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Speaker 2: there was just like, oh my god, he's so gorgeous.

435
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Speaker 2: Every day was like, oh I wish I look like

436
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Speaker 2: that guy. And all the teachers were just like whoa.

437
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 2: But it was so funny because you wouldn't even think

438
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Speaker 2: about it, but like everything behind the scenes, they'd be like,

439
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 2: oh yeah, it was die Like James Carponella is coming

440
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 2: in to set up the stage. He like you would

441
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Speaker 2: come and do like the labor there, and like.

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Speaker 1: It's my it's my love language. Acts of service. I've

443
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 1: learned this in my later life. I don't think I

444
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: knew it as much then, But that's like what that's

445
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 1: like what I do. Like if I do stuff for people,

446
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 1: it makes me feel good, and that's not I mean.

447
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Speaker 2: I'll never fix for me back in the day, I.

448
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: Know, but like like if you literally called me and

449
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Speaker 1: I was in LA and You're like, I need someone

450
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Speaker 1: to and hang. We were going to start a company

451
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,159
Speaker 1: because I was like glowing to our friend's houses and

452
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Speaker 1: hanging pictures and I was going to pretty well hung.

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Speaker 3: But I'm bump exactly my friend Jody came up with that. Actually,

454
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Speaker 3: so I can't.

455
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Speaker 2: I'll invest in that company.

456
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 3: Yeahs enough Jody Harris.

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Speaker 2: I remember her. But yeah, So you would show up

458
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 2: and like, I'm blanking on what it was? What is

459
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 2: the thing at Halloween? They would have like the house, yes,

460
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 2: and it was just like it almost to a fault,

461
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 2: got annoying, like who's like, who's coming in to do

462
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 2: do this? Oh, it's James James, and it's just they'd

463
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,959
Speaker 2: all be like, oh, yeah, James Carmona is coming in.

464
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 2: He's going to screw in a light bulb. And they'd

465
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 2: all just be like and he would show up and

466
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 2: like in his T shirt and just like they would

467
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Speaker 2: just all be oggling you. And I'd be like, oh

468
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 2: my god, this is just so funny to me because

469
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 2: I obviously you're hot, but I don't think of you

470
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 2: that like because we have known each other for so long.

471
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 2: But it was just interesting that it was like, yeah,

472
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 2: it all came full circle. Two actors in the business.

473
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Speaker 2: I don't know how you guys have this relationship.

474
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Speaker 3: It's hard.

475
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 1: Raising kids is hard, it is, and be at two

476
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: people in the business, it's hard. But we've been lucky

477
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 1: in the sense that those times when I was in

478
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,199
Speaker 1: a T shirt screwing in light bulbs at Losncino has

479
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: meant that I wasn't working, or that I could be

480
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: with the kids, or I could help out there because

481
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: Amy was on a TV show somewhere making money to

482
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: support the fact that I could screw in a light

483
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: bulb and a T shirt at the school haunted house.

484
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: And I think that sort of balance, you know, has

485
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 1: always been We've been lucky that way.

486
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Speaker 2: This is what I feel like from knowing you both

487
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 2: this long is you really don't have egos and it's

488
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 2: not an easy business to be in, and especially I

489
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 2: hate to say this with men in entertainment, you know

490
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 2: you always feel like men are like you know, go

491
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 2: back to like I'm just provide and protect and this

492
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 2: is my role and it's ingrained in us. And you know,

493
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 2: nothing's perfect. But you, guys, I've watched you over the

494
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 2: years seamlessly transition back and forth and truly be equals

495
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 2: in a partnership and it's really nice. And I hope

496
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 2: I find my Amy someday. Wait that sound right.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that you got you know, you've worked your

498
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: whole life, job to job to job to jobs job,

499
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: and you know, Amy's very much like that too. She

500
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 1: had a career that was it'd be easy to say

501
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: she's lucky, but she's really good at it, Like she's

502
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: really good, and so it's deserved and it's provided, you know,

503
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: And that was challenging, no doubt, you know, when she'd

504
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: done a TV show and I was home driving to

505
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: Losansinos in the morning, and then you know, building a

506
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: haunted house. As fun as that is, it's like, you know,

507
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: it's challenging to have different roles and like you said

508
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: about you know, the need to provide and really trying

509
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 1: to you know, manage that and make sure you pat

510
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: yourself on the back a little bit and go, you know,

511
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 1: this is a job too, Like the laundry do need

512
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 1: to get folded, and the house does need to be cleaned,

513
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: and the kids do need to get to school, and

514
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 1: the lunches do need to be made, and that's equally

515
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 1: as important.

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Speaker 2: I'm lucky to be in your world. You are such

517
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: an evolved man, James Carponell, You really are. You're the

518
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 2: new age Merue.

519
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 3: But I appreciate you saying it. I'll take it I'm

520
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 3: lucky to be in your world. It's great to reconnect

521
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 3: with you.

522
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for being here. So we're filming

523
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 2: so Notorious again.

524
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 3: We are randomly I.

525
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: I used to go to this gym before COVID in

526
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 1: LA and I would see Vernon Sanders there.

527
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Speaker 3: Do you remember.

528
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 2: Is he an Amazon Still he's like the like head

529
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 2: out of Amazon, and he was our champion, was our champion.

530
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Speaker 1: And I went in for a meeting randomly the day

531
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Speaker 1: that like the world shut down for COVID with him.

532
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: But because he's like you know he said at the

533
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Speaker 1: gym one day, he was like, you know something about

534
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: working together and I was like, yeah, you're to God's ears.

535
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 3: Let's like please.

536
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: But he's such a lovely, lovely man and loved this

537
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 1: project and I wonder, you know, you were saying, where

538
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: should we do it? I don't know, Like he's he's

539
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 1: the person over there at Amazon.

540
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

541
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: I love when nice, kind people actually get ahead in

542
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: this world.

543
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 3: Yep.

544
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 2: And he's one of them that was at NBC and

545
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: went out on a limb for us because you know, executives.

546
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 2: He was an executive there and a lot of people

547
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: were like, oh no, you know and he he would

548
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 2: come into the editing bay on a Friday night and

549
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 2: stay all night like he really was invested and everything

550
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 2: he has is deserved. But Vernon, if you're listening to those,

551
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: hey James Night, Wait, when are you back? September?

552
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, September.

553
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 2: Okay, put it on your calendar. We're going to take

554
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: pitch meetings. Pitch meetings. I'll sell that shit before we'll

555
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 2: start filming them.

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Speaker 1: Correct, great sounds good, ka him, It was so great

557
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: to see you, great to see.

558
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 2: Thank you for doing this. There you go, best, Dilf.

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Speaker 2: I've never had love that man,