WEBVTT - Generational Wealth, Legacy and Black Banking w/ Ryan Glover

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<v Speaker 1>Season two of the Black Tech Green Money podcast is

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<v Speaker 1>brought to you by Lexus and the December to Remember

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<v Speaker 1>Experience Amazing at your Lexus, Dealing Afro Tech World, Gilly

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<v Speaker 1>the King and social media influencer and disrupt Your willow

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<v Speaker 1>To six seven are the host of The Million Dollars

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<v Speaker 1>Worth The Gang Show, a weekly podcast which is the

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<v Speaker 1>perfect blend of discussing music, real life issues, personal experiences,

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<v Speaker 1>honest advice in comedy, and our interview at Afro Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>I ask Gilly histor. Also, how we as black people

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<v Speaker 1>in business can stand confident about our value, our perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>our sauce when it's being challenged or not respected at

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<v Speaker 1>a premium. Number One, you gotta believe in what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. That's number one. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you if you being innovative and you being creative, and

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<v Speaker 1>you you know in your mind that this is what

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<v Speaker 1>I feel is gonna be the next ship, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>roll with that. I would never devalue myself for but

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<v Speaker 1>for nothing you feel what I'm saying. I know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm worth, even even back when I was doing um

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<v Speaker 1>record deals. Yeah, I flew down the swave house. You

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<v Speaker 1>know Tony Draper, you know the really CEO that I

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<v Speaker 1>ever met in my life. Shout out to Tony Draper.

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<v Speaker 1>But he tried to do the ceo wine and Din

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<v Speaker 1>Rapper shipped to me. We got down there. We well

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<v Speaker 1>up to the gate. I never seen no house like

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<v Speaker 1>this in my life. Gates opened up. He got rained

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<v Speaker 1>fver a viper with the zipper windows and bad leaves,

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of ship. You know what I mean. I

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<v Speaker 1>go in the drive. We we I'm talking no business.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm down there two old days just I'm meeting superstars.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm playing two and two against Jagget Edge. You I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonnaiga straight from old Phil Like, yeah, why I like this?

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<v Speaker 1>The artist pulling up, his artist pulling up. That's already

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<v Speaker 1>going eight more pull up here in the big body,

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred fans mt T pull up here in the

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<v Speaker 1>old school. I'm like, God, damn, these niggas doing it

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<v Speaker 1>next day, Yes, they ball pull up here and something different.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, damn, when it was time to talk that

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<v Speaker 1>business don't want new the value ain't going on. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what I wanted, he said, I ain't never gave

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<v Speaker 1>a deal out that big in my life. I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it was nice meeting your drink, but I'm going back

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<v Speaker 1>to silly and he said, uh, you know what. I

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I like that you got that. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was just me believing in myself. You feel what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying and believing it because sometimes you get around these

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<v Speaker 1>companies and the motherfuck have been and played longer than you,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had you doubting yourself. Mh No, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it's supposed to go like that, because uh, did

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<v Speaker 1>you doing the same ship since eight one? I'm Will

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<v Speaker 1>Lucas and this is Black Tech, Green Money. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>introduce you to some of the biggest names, some of

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<v Speaker 1>the brightest minds and brilliant ideas. If you're black and

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<v Speaker 1>building or simply using tech to secure your bank, this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast is for you. Ryan Glover is co founder and

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<v Speaker 1>chairman at Greenwood Bank, the new digital bank he's building

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<v Speaker 1>with Michael render A, Ka Rapper Killer Mike Ambassador, Andrew Young,

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<v Speaker 1>and serial tech entrepreneur Paul Judge. Greenwood's mission is to

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<v Speaker 1>help blacks and Latinos take control of the financial destiny

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<v Speaker 1>and build generational wealth. Previous to Greenwood Bank, Ryan was

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<v Speaker 1>in the music business as co founder of Noontime, the

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<v Speaker 1>music publishing and management company, which represented people like Jazz Faye,

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<v Speaker 1>Sierra Grammy, and war When, He producer Brian Michael Cox

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<v Speaker 1>and others. He's also founder of bound TV, the national

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<v Speaker 1>cable network, and the rest of Run in Atlanta Agency.

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan got his career jop starting at Howard alongside Puff

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<v Speaker 1>Daddy and Cassine Read, who would go on to be

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<v Speaker 1>the Mayor of Atlanta. As a student, Cassine Read compelled

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan to produce a hip hop concert for homecoming weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Of all the people who could have produced that concert

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<v Speaker 1>would set off his stellar career. I wonder why Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>was recruited, what made him so special all those years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've always been well, I've always been excited about

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<v Speaker 1>the entertainment industry, right, but I can't rap, sing, dance

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<v Speaker 1>my way out of a paperbag, right. So I've always

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<v Speaker 1>been excited about entertainment, but from a business perspective. Um So,

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<v Speaker 1>so back then on the on campus, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>saw the energy that was being created not just on

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<v Speaker 1>our campus, but the musical energy that existed clearly in

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<v Speaker 1>New York, clearly in California where I was from, where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm from, and Atlanta, and I thought it would be

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing idea will to bring that energy to Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>d C. And to on to Howard's campus, right amidst

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<v Speaker 1>the wonderful culture of the of the go go experience

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<v Speaker 1>that existed in in d C. So it's almost like

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<v Speaker 1>gumbo that was being created right there on on Howard's campus.

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<v Speaker 1>And I tell you this, you know, being all at

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<v Speaker 1>Howard during those times was an incredible education, right. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>not only was I learning, will you know, scholastically, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was also learning um other cultures really Michael, within

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<v Speaker 1>my own culture, from individuals from different parts of the country, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and built relationships um with those individuals from Chicago, from

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<v Speaker 1>New York, from d C, from Texas, And those relationships,

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<v Speaker 1>as I tell my children today, are the relationships that

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<v Speaker 1>have helped me become successful um in life across multiple industries. Right. So,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, I went to Howard University, graduated from Howard,

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<v Speaker 1>relocated to Atlanta, started a music and publishing company called noontime.

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<v Speaker 1>We made records at noontime from everybody from Mary J.

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<v Speaker 1>Blige to Aaliyah. We made records for puff Uh, we

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<v Speaker 1>signed um Jeezy neon Tempt, we signed Sierra UM. But

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<v Speaker 1>those relationships that we used to build that my first business,

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<v Speaker 1>our first business I garnered on Howard's campus, right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was the relationships that I built, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was also the ability to do business right from with

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<v Speaker 1>the individuals that I that I met at Howard And

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<v Speaker 1>that's really my foundation of of business and how I

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<v Speaker 1>move UM into the future of of of Greenwood. There's

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<v Speaker 1>so many young people who listen to this podcast and

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<v Speaker 1>have dreams about being that front and center performer or

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<v Speaker 1>the athlete or whatever. UM, and you said this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't grap sing or dance whatever to say in

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<v Speaker 1>my life. UM. In the pursuit of the business side

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<v Speaker 1>of the entertainment industry, that New Times where I met you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so many years ago, feels like, UM, what

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<v Speaker 1>did you realize about the economical difference between the performer

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<v Speaker 1>who ultimately gets the bright lights and takes the selfies

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<v Speaker 1>with fans versus the person who may walk into a

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<v Speaker 1>room or go into a crowd undetected or unnoticed. So

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<v Speaker 1>so on on the economic side, um, let me just

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<v Speaker 1>address address that. You know, it's lights, camera action, so

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<v Speaker 1>so saving is always should be always at the forefront

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<v Speaker 1>of anybody in entertainment or any other industries, UH frontal

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<v Speaker 1>low in their thinking right because as we all know,

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<v Speaker 1>in entertainment specifically, but just in life, nothing lasts forever.

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<v Speaker 1>So so once you have that understanding that that you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned the right lights, at some point those lights will dim.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care if you are on stage or I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care if you are backstage. Right, there is always

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<v Speaker 1>someone who is gonna be a little more talented than

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<v Speaker 1>you are, a little younger than you, a little faster

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<v Speaker 1>than you. So you really have to look at your

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<v Speaker 1>talent and understand will that that it's everything lass in

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<v Speaker 1>chapters and in seasons, So you have to prepare yourself accordingly.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, as a business person, you know I've been

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<v Speaker 1>saying the art of recalibration is what can what allows

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<v Speaker 1>you as a businessman to continue to grow. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been in in music, I've been in television and

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<v Speaker 1>film and out I am in uh in banking services

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<v Speaker 1>and digital banking, services industry, and you know, my recalibration

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<v Speaker 1>has um allowed me to change industries, right, But my

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<v Speaker 1>strategies in the way I operate as a businessman remains consistent,

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<v Speaker 1>and and that really starts with for me, trusting in

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<v Speaker 1>God and putting God first with whatever I do right

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<v Speaker 1>and then also doing the best that I can to

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<v Speaker 1>treat people the way I want to be treated, um,

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<v Speaker 1>whether they are on my side of the negotiating table

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<v Speaker 1>or on the or whether they're on the opposite side

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<v Speaker 1>of the table. A lot of times people will realize,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, truly honesty is really the as policy, whether

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<v Speaker 1>you right, whether whether whether you want to you'd say

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<v Speaker 1>something to somebody that you think that they don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear, and they might not want to hear it,

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<v Speaker 1>but at the end of the day, if you're dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with grown ups, grown ups will understand it and respect it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then that will allow you no matter where your

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<v Speaker 1>professional career journey takes you, will allow you to garner

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<v Speaker 1>that same respect with that earlier individual or with the

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<v Speaker 1>individual that you're currently dealing with in that given time. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, those are my two basic strategies of whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And listen, if I move to um opening up a

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<v Speaker 1>hot dog stand in front of a a sports arena.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna use the same strategies of the same strategies

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<v Speaker 1>I use in banking. The state use intelligent film, same

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<v Speaker 1>strategies and methodologies are using music. Yeah, and that honestly

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<v Speaker 1>gives them the opportunity to deal with it. However, they

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<v Speaker 1>got to deal with it. But come back to the

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<v Speaker 1>table for everybody's benefit. Yeah. Yeah, you mentioned relationships, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know I saw an interview with you where you

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<v Speaker 1>said the best business advice you ever received was never

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<v Speaker 1>give your partner surprises. Um. When I think about that advice,

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<v Speaker 1>I consider how much a business partnership it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>marriage and probably shouldn't be entered into frivolously. Right. And

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<v Speaker 1>if if then we are the culture as in black people,

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<v Speaker 1>If we are the culture that drives all global culture,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you're talking about food, fashion, music, sports, or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Then if you put two or three of us together, um,

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<v Speaker 1>we should dominate, right if we're to you know, globally

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<v Speaker 1>and all of these things, and we're not in everything.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I wonder, um, is it because we may

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<v Speaker 1>be misaligned with our partnerships, or is it something else.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder what your thoughts are on how to build

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<v Speaker 1>successful business partnerships because you've done so many over your career. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I should say, yeah, so so building successful partnerships. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>in all candor, oftentimes people look at like myself, they

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<v Speaker 1>only remember the successes, But will I have had multiple

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<v Speaker 1>upon multiple upon multiple failures right to go along with

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<v Speaker 1>those successes, I've actually learned more and appreciated and it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds crazy, more in my failures than my successes, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And in those failures, you know, I learned earned really

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<v Speaker 1>how to treat people and how to um identify not

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<v Speaker 1>just talent but also partnerships. That I went and applied

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<v Speaker 1>those tactics and strategies two businesses that ended up working. Right. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we live in a generation now where everybody

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<v Speaker 1>wants everything micro waverable. You know, you know I you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned party promotion at Howard. I used to study, go

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<v Speaker 1>to school, study, taking nap at night, wake up at

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<v Speaker 1>twelve am in the morning and go pass out three thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>four thousand flyers hand to hand at an event at

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<v Speaker 1>an upcoming event that I was promoting into the wee

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<v Speaker 1>bit hours and then get up and do it all

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<v Speaker 1>over again weeks on in while at school while promoting, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's the grind now kids a lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>and Riley, So technology is great. I'm thank the Lord

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<v Speaker 1>for technology. But technology is could be a gift and

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<v Speaker 1>a curse at the same time because although you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the younger generation is definitely on the hustle and I

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<v Speaker 1>love it. I love everything that I see, um from

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<v Speaker 1>the the younger generation across multiple industries. But there's something

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<v Speaker 1>to the fact to the art for me of putting

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<v Speaker 1>a flyer on a car, right, yeah, I did that.

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<v Speaker 1>I did that. That that that you just you can't

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<v Speaker 1>duplicate that. That grind hand combat, yeah yeah, and that grind,

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<v Speaker 1>that grind is always in the forefront of my mind

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<v Speaker 1>whatever I do. It's ironic. Man, the the more uh

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<v Speaker 1>the world perceives of my success, uh, the more instable

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<v Speaker 1>in stable I become, right because I'm like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I can't. I can't really, I can't really

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<v Speaker 1>process success. I can only process I can't process past success.

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<v Speaker 1>I can only focus on what's in front of me, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not looking backwards, I'm looking forwards, um, because there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's still more work to be be done. There's still

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<v Speaker 1>more good trouble to get into, you know. Um, so

0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:11.400
<v Speaker 1>so so that's that's that's my mindset man. Um. Far

0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:14.240
<v Speaker 1>too many of us in our community have dreams of

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<v Speaker 1>starting companies and don't have adequate business business banking relationships

0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:22.720
<v Speaker 1>right or banking relationships period um. In fact, too many

0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:26.480
<v Speaker 1>of us avoid banks altogether and or just use banks

0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:29.239
<v Speaker 1>for you know, depositing their check and you know debit cards. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And you said in the previous interview, Uh, this is

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<v Speaker 1>our time speaking about Greenwood to take back control of

0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:40.320
<v Speaker 1>our lives and our financial future. Um, for it would

0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:43.679
<v Speaker 1>be entrepreneur in our community. What does a good banking

0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:45.879
<v Speaker 1>relationship look like? This is a big question, but what

0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:48.520
<v Speaker 1>does a good banking relationship look like? How are we

0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:52.400
<v Speaker 1>supposed to engage with banks? Um, bankers a should say,

0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:56.440
<v Speaker 1>even for services other than just making deposits into an account?

0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:58.879
<v Speaker 1>And what level of bank er should we be talking to? Like,

0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:01.760
<v Speaker 1>so we start with the teller, like what, let's walk

0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:06.960
<v Speaker 1>us through this? Yeah, so so so I believe Speaking

0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:11.440
<v Speaker 1>of technology, we're in a new digital age. So sixty

0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:18.080
<v Speaker 1>of Americans are banking digitally currently. Um. That number is

0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:23.800
<v Speaker 1>kicking up around three per year. And there are really

0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:30.119
<v Speaker 1>no UM authentic digital banking solutions that cater to the

0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:36.000
<v Speaker 1>African American and Latin X community really until Greenwood. So

0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:40.800
<v Speaker 1>we're a fintech nel bank that provides modern digital banking

0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:45.560
<v Speaker 1>services for for the for the culture. Right. So, so

0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:50.040
<v Speaker 1>you know some of our services your full service UH

0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:53.879
<v Speaker 1>bank in your hand, savings and spending the count We

0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:57.639
<v Speaker 1>have Apple and Android pay, peer to peer money transfers,

0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:02.760
<v Speaker 1>mobile deposits globally TM network, UM, no hidden fees and

0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:07.760
<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite features UM today early early path UM.

0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:10.720
<v Speaker 1>But the fact of the matter is there are three

0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:15.040
<v Speaker 1>problems well that we will solve UM. And as a

0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:22.120
<v Speaker 1>reason why we stood, we're standing Greenwood up. UM. One. UM,

0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:26.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, in our communities there are far too many

0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:33.280
<v Speaker 1>predatory banking services that we cater to. We want to

0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:42.040
<v Speaker 1>extinguish those predatory services. Two and oh to Greenwood. We

0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:47.920
<v Speaker 1>want to be a part of the solution of recirculating

0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:54.960
<v Speaker 1>capital back into our communities as once had what was

0:19:55.160 --> 0:20:00.480
<v Speaker 1>happened in the Greenwood district in Tulsa, Oklahoma. UM. You know,

0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:04.720
<v Speaker 1>we often hear about Black Wall Street in all of

0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:10.240
<v Speaker 1>the thriving businesses that existed during the twenties and that time.

0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:14.560
<v Speaker 1>But you know the reason why those businesses flourished is

0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:20.879
<v Speaker 1>because one dollar recirculated thirty six times in that one community,

0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:28.800
<v Speaker 1>and that allowed UM. That allowed the barber, the banks,

0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:37.359
<v Speaker 1>the the grocers, the attorneys, right the the doctors, right

0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:42.200
<v Speaker 1>the bowling alleys, that whatever businesses were in those communities,

0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:47.639
<v Speaker 1>that money recirculated and everybody got a bite at the apple.

0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately for us, in our community today, one dollar man

0:20:55.160 --> 0:21:01.280
<v Speaker 1>recirculates six hours. So so you know, at Greenwood, through

0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:06.560
<v Speaker 1>our Greenwood Gives Back round Up program, our customers have

0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:12.560
<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to donate their rounded up change to three

0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:17.960
<v Speaker 1>causes we care about um UT one the n double

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<v Speaker 1>a CP to fight civil rights, um to U n

0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:27.720
<v Speaker 1>c F to support education, and three there's a wonderful

0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:32.120
<v Speaker 1>company in Atlanta that feeds um the hungry and homeless

0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:37.360
<v Speaker 1>called good or UM. And our customers have the opportunity

0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:40.920
<v Speaker 1>to donate a portion of their rounded up change to

0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:45.040
<v Speaker 1>either one of those organizations or a combination of the three.

0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:51.919
<v Speaker 1>And then every quarter Greenwood UM we will UM as

0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:55.200
<v Speaker 1>a banking solution, donate and match those funds to those

0:21:55.440 --> 0:22:01.520
<v Speaker 1>to those organizations. The third UM solution, the so third

0:22:01.600 --> 0:22:05.200
<v Speaker 1>problem that we're going to solve is the deployment of

0:22:05.320 --> 0:22:12.480
<v Speaker 1>capital in our communities. Right. So, you know I've started

0:22:13.800 --> 0:22:17.159
<v Speaker 1>a couple of businesses that have done well. None of

0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:22.960
<v Speaker 1>those businesses we're started or stood up with banking capital.

0:22:23.920 --> 0:22:28.480
<v Speaker 1>So you know, we don't have the relationships that our

0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:36.639
<v Speaker 1>counterparts have UM that allows us to create wealth personally

0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:44.400
<v Speaker 1>or professionally like others do UM and and we plan

0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:48.159
<v Speaker 1>on solving that problem UM or being a part of

0:22:48.240 --> 0:22:52.879
<v Speaker 1>the solution to that problem. Uh So, really to answer

0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:59.080
<v Speaker 1>your question, you know, we we are an authentic banking

0:22:59.200 --> 0:23:03.880
<v Speaker 1>solution that knows how to because I am one identify

0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:11.359
<v Speaker 1>small business owners UM that that you know, I have

0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:16.920
<v Speaker 1>great ideas, have wonderful talent, I have a great support system,

0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:21.280
<v Speaker 1>have a marketplace, but just don't have the capital to

0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:27.200
<v Speaker 1>to turn their business from a micro business to a

0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:31.040
<v Speaker 1>major business. And we're we're bullish, We're bullish on that

0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:51.600
<v Speaker 1>um UM as A as A as a company. Season

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0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:13.680
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0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:16.920
<v Speaker 1>have not yet overcome the mindset and systemic oppression of

0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:21.520
<v Speaker 1>being capital to having capital. Ryan's new effort with Green

0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Would Bank, it's on the mission to change that for

0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:27.479
<v Speaker 1>many have tried before. How will Green Would make an

0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:32.880
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0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:37.240
<v Speaker 1>we have good reason. You read the book, so you

0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:43.879
<v Speaker 1>understand we have good reason to mistrust banks. So you

0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:50.600
<v Speaker 1>know in eighteen hundreds US a Freeman's bank, that right

0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:58.000
<v Speaker 1>that that actually duped thousands of African Americans out of

0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:02.520
<v Speaker 1>their savings and and those trustees who ran the bank

0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:08.840
<v Speaker 1>UH misappropriated their funds into investments that never panned out.

0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:16.959
<v Speaker 1>They're over three thousand um um um um individuals who

0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:20.520
<v Speaker 1>lost who lost money in that one bank, and that

0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:28.000
<v Speaker 1>actual tread tragedy and travesty. Unfortunately, from a folklore standpoint,

0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:32.960
<v Speaker 1>that story has been told generation to generation and we

0:25:33.160 --> 0:25:37.840
<v Speaker 1>haven't gotten over it as a culture. Um, you know

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:44.960
<v Speaker 1>there's no there's no mystery or there's no falsehood in

0:25:45.800 --> 0:25:52.280
<v Speaker 1>our grandparents are great grandparents actually using their mattresses as

0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:58.959
<v Speaker 1>their savings and deposits? Right because bank mistrust? And then

0:25:59.080 --> 0:26:04.440
<v Speaker 1>you fast forward word you know all of the the

0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:10.680
<v Speaker 1>the the issues that some traditional banks have had with

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:18.080
<v Speaker 1>predatory lending, redlining. Um you know of the sort. Uh

0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:23.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, the current community doesn't. We're not we're not

0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:28.800
<v Speaker 1>trusting banks, um curb currently. Right. So you know we

0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:32.760
<v Speaker 1>know also too that we are as a community, uh

0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:39.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot less likely to receive loans than our white counterparts.

0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 1>So all of that combustion, combustible bad will for decades

0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:53.200
<v Speaker 1>has created a mistrust in banks, right. Um, you know,

0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:58.880
<v Speaker 1>we are attempting to build that trust back, and we're

0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:05.159
<v Speaker 1>coming at an approaching it from a standpoint of I

0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:10.720
<v Speaker 1>am not a banker, but we have hired bankers to

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:16.399
<v Speaker 1>operate our business. But me not being a physical banker,

0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:21.919
<v Speaker 1>I understand. I believe what the community and the small

0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:26.680
<v Speaker 1>business person and just the everyday African American and Latin

0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:33.200
<v Speaker 1>X customer needs to understand on creating an authentic banking

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:40.119
<v Speaker 1>solution and we're speaking directly and authentically, UM to to that,

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:44.640
<v Speaker 1>to that individual, and hopefully over time we will build

0:27:44.720 --> 0:27:49.720
<v Speaker 1>trust back into the community from a banking perspective. Um.

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:54.159
<v Speaker 1>You know, and yes there are other great African American

0:27:54.640 --> 0:28:00.200
<v Speaker 1>banks that that exists, but I candidly think, you know

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:06.639
<v Speaker 1>not no of the traditionals or the African American current

0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 1>banks are speaking to the generation, UM, that we currently

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:18.280
<v Speaker 1>exist in the way we organically and authentically can. And

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:22.119
<v Speaker 1>that's what we're that's what we're going to do of it. Um.

0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:26.600
<v Speaker 1>You've broken into very well, you know, these industries that

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 1>have high bars in a lot of ways to get into,

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 1>you know what, whether it be owning television stations and

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:34.119
<v Speaker 1>not holding a bank, etcetera. And talk to me like

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:37.640
<v Speaker 1>number one, like, what what is it that Ryan has

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 1>in his background that says, you know what, we're going

0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 1>to give him the keys to this next level of

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:44.440
<v Speaker 1>success Because a lot of people may go to start

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:46.959
<v Speaker 1>a television network and can't get it done. A lot

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:49.000
<v Speaker 1>of people want to start a bank, can't get it done,

0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 1>not for like a trying, But what is it? What

0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 1>is it that people miss? Here? Here's my secret partner

0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 1>with people as smart or smarter than you in those industries. Okay,

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 1>that's where I start. Um. I always start with, whether

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:18.160
<v Speaker 1>whether it be music, television and film, um now banking services,

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I start with where is the opportunity and that can't

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 1>could be filled? That's not right. In music, we started

0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Noontime from the auspices of they're amazed, a ton of

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 1>amazing production companies and record companies that are doing amazing work.

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:54.440
<v Speaker 1>So so Deaf Bad Boy, Deaf Jam death Row Right

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 1>death Row came a little bit after us, but you

0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 1>get my get my point, um. But we at Noontime

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 1>we all knew myself, Chris Hicks and Henry Lead, we

0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:11.120
<v Speaker 1>all knew that neither none of us could wrap singer

0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:15.280
<v Speaker 1>dance away out of a paper bag. But we are

0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Angle was being the best business people that we could

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 1>be to support the talent. Right that that led the company.

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 1>We weren't the talent and the other companies that we

0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:35.480
<v Speaker 1>were competing with they were led by talent. Our Angle

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:40.280
<v Speaker 1>was not to lead by talent, but lead through business

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 1>and business executives. Right, So that was our niche bounce.

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 1>We were the first African, We are the first African

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 1>American broadcast network in existence. Right, we knew, I knew

0:30:58.080 --> 0:31:04.400
<v Speaker 1>that black and brown folks UM, you know, wanted to

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:13.440
<v Speaker 1>watch compelling, captivating entertainment entertaining television programming. But we all

0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 1>don't have dollars to UH enlisted in a cable operator, right,

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 1>So how can we become the first over the air

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:31.200
<v Speaker 1>network that provided free entertaining UM content to the masses

0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 1>over the air broadcast content like an NBC, ABC, Fox.

0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 1>And we did it UM and partnered with individuals who

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:46.480
<v Speaker 1>knew that business like the back of their hands. Same

0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 1>thing with with with Greenwood UM. There's an opportunity to

0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 1>serve a zero served African American and Latin X community

0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 1>from a you know, banking perspective. UM. Partnering with bankers

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 1>UM and individuals of like thinking to grow this business

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:19.200
<v Speaker 1>is the way we're growing the Greenwood UH banking solution.

0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 1>So all all of the businesses that have all ever

0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 1>started always has started with the mission and then a

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 1>devout commitment to create UH compelling content that I believe

0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:43.480
<v Speaker 1>resonate with our consumers UM and then do it consistently UM.

0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 1>And that has just grown and I believe, you know,

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 1>going back to trust, will you know, based on my

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 1>past successes and failures that folks don't talk about. I

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 1>have built trust as an executive and that is carried

0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 1>over and from music to television and film and now

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:14.320
<v Speaker 1>the banking and in that trust is resonating in the

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:21.280
<v Speaker 1>community with our mission at Greenwood. UM. Speaking of what

0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:24.680
<v Speaker 1>you were appointed to the Martyr board back and I

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:28.960
<v Speaker 1>think seen um, which to me indicates like that you

0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:32.200
<v Speaker 1>see the correlations between like political power or influence and

0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 1>a true opportunity to serve the community and make it better. UM.

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:40.280
<v Speaker 1>So many business people avoid getting involved in government or politics,

0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:43.080
<v Speaker 1>and so many government types either avoided don't have the

0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:47.240
<v Speaker 1>jobs to succeed in an enterprise. UM. For those of

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:50.239
<v Speaker 1>us out there who are growing companies but also are

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:53.640
<v Speaker 1>getting called on to serve, how do you recommend we

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:58.520
<v Speaker 1>or they? UM, both think about their responsibility and their

0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:02.000
<v Speaker 1>overall legacy and ability to create chase for the community

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 1>and for you know, their lineage. So here's how I'll

0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 1>answer that and kind of be around the block, but

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:14.720
<v Speaker 1>I'll get to my point. So I have five children

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:21.440
<v Speaker 1>from the ages of twenty one uh to seven, and

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I believe in that the more time you invest time

0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:35.640
<v Speaker 1>that you invest into your children, the more successful they

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:44.640
<v Speaker 1>will become, and the the the more valuable from an

0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:51.080
<v Speaker 1>economic standpoint they will become for themselves. Okay, soh so

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:56.320
<v Speaker 1>that time that I invest into my children may be

0:34:56.560 --> 0:35:03.680
<v Speaker 1>perceived or directly a time suck for me that is

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:11.440
<v Speaker 1>not registering to a dollar earned. Right, what I understand

0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:17.359
<v Speaker 1>that that investment that I don't reap a monetary benefit from,

0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:24.279
<v Speaker 1>will harvest itself in my children's life generationally, that will

0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:31.320
<v Speaker 1>provide for generational wealth down the world. Okay, UM, here's

0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:39.879
<v Speaker 1>the analogy. The more you lend your talents and your services,

0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:48.960
<v Speaker 1>two causes and organizations that span outside of where you

0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:56.840
<v Speaker 1>directly earn a living, too, will build and harvest relationships

0:35:57.200 --> 0:36:06.080
<v Speaker 1>and value. Right, that right that you will benefit from, um,

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 1>And you might not benefit from it directly or the

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:17.359
<v Speaker 1>next day or the next week, but inevitably you will

0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:24.120
<v Speaker 1>benefit directly or you know, or you will be the

0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 1>benefactor or you will allow someone else to benefit from

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:31.680
<v Speaker 1>the from the knowledge that you provide to them, which

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:36.600
<v Speaker 1>is the value. Right. So you know, I often I

0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:41.320
<v Speaker 1>get asked to do favors often, and a lot of

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:45.759
<v Speaker 1>times UM individuals say hey, well, if you can do this,

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:50.000
<v Speaker 1>for me. I will do that this for you. I

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:57.359
<v Speaker 1>will never do favors looking for a direct return, right

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<v Speaker 1>because I know and I've been living long enough to

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<v Speaker 1>know that that return will come in a different form

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<v Speaker 1>and fashion. Um, maybe not even directly back to me,

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<v Speaker 1>but someone that I have a relationship with or get this,

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<v Speaker 1>I may need that same favor of the person in

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<v Speaker 1>ten years of the person that asked me for the

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<v Speaker 1>favor ten years previous. So I like to bank my favors,

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<v Speaker 1>no pun intendon. That's good. That's good, man, That's really

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<v Speaker 1>really good. That was heavy right there. Season two of

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<v Speaker 1>Experience amazing at you, alexis dealing. What kind of benefit

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<v Speaker 1>did going digital all digital have for you in Greenwood? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>could you have achieved your mission of building wealth? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>money circulation in the black community and generational wealth transfer

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<v Speaker 1>with brick and mortar. And Here's what I'm getting out

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<v Speaker 1>before you answer it. What is different about the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>and doing business today at scale versus a teen years

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<v Speaker 1>ago or fifteen years ago. Yeah, So brick and mortar no, um,

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<v Speaker 1>because my our message can resonate in California, it can

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<v Speaker 1>resonate in Chicago, it can resonate in Atlanta, it can

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<v Speaker 1>resonate in Savannah, it can resonate in d C. It

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<v Speaker 1>can resonate in Newark, it can resonate in Compton. It

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<v Speaker 1>can resonate um currently domestically, it's going to resonate internationally

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Um. We could not stand up um brick

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<v Speaker 1>and mortar banks fast enough right in order to I believe,

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<v Speaker 1>keep up with the demand of the service that we

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<v Speaker 1>are going to provide. Two, I believe that those brick

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<v Speaker 1>and mortar costs are not necessarily archaic in having to

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<v Speaker 1>do but don't serve the customer as well as a

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<v Speaker 1>digital offering will because at some point the customer pays

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<v Speaker 1>for that brick and mortar spind, it trickles down in

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<v Speaker 1>some way, shape or form. Okay, we nor any other

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<v Speaker 1>bank or charities, So we will make money, but we

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<v Speaker 1>hope to make our customers UH a lot more money

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<v Speaker 1>as well than they're currently making as well. So so

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<v Speaker 1>that's our philosophy on on brick and mortar. No, and finally, Ryan, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take us back to the beginning because I

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<v Speaker 1>want to end on this, which I think is a

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<v Speaker 1>really powerful thing. So, Um, you graduated with a degree

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<v Speaker 1>in accounting and after a while I read the story said,

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<v Speaker 1>after a while of working in the field, Um, you

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<v Speaker 1>called to tell your mom that you hated working in

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<v Speaker 1>the county and she cursed you out for about thirty

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<v Speaker 1>straight minutes, and afterwards gave you your blessing to go

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<v Speaker 1>and do your thing in music. And so the chapters

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<v Speaker 1>of your career looks something like, you know, accounting the music,

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<v Speaker 1>to fashion with Ryan Kinney, to TV and now to banking.

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<v Speaker 1>For people who today might feel that some cost of

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<v Speaker 1>spending so much time pursuing something, or so much time

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<v Speaker 1>in an industry that may not feel them, Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean keeps them switching gears. What do you hope your

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<v Speaker 1>story inspires in them? Be brave, right, Um, Trust God

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<v Speaker 1>and be brave Um. And thirdly, Uh, you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>be more in line with your passion then the money

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<v Speaker 1>that you think you'll make. The harder you chase a dollar,

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<v Speaker 1>the faster that dollar will run away from you. You

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<v Speaker 1>follow your passion, you follow your heart, and you follow

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<v Speaker 1>your talent. All right, Listen, I want to play second

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<v Speaker 1>base for the Atlanta Braves right now, right at fifty,

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<v Speaker 1>I still think I can turn a mean double play. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm fifty and I can't turn a mean double

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<v Speaker 1>play like a guy a team right nineteen twenty that's

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<v Speaker 1>been right, that's in the maize, right. So I'm passionate

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<v Speaker 1>about baseball. I love the sport, but my talent isn't there.

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<v Speaker 1>So you gotta marry. You gotta marry being brave, with

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<v Speaker 1>with passion, with for me, faith in God, and talent

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<v Speaker 1>right and a lot of times when I say talent,

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<v Speaker 1>it may not be personal talent that you own, but

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<v Speaker 1>you have to be intelligent enough to partner with individuals

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<v Speaker 1>who have that talent that you need, that can work

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<v Speaker 1>with the talent that you have in order to make

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<v Speaker 1>your vision growth. So so that is that that would

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<v Speaker 1>be my three of for keys to success. Black Tech

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<v Speaker 1>Green Money is a production to Black of the Afro

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<v Speaker 1>Tech is produced by Morgan Dubon and me Well Lucas,

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<v Speaker 1>Bort Special thank you to Michael Davis is the cars

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<v Speaker 1>of Von Yarn you know, like the wine and yes

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<v Speaker 1>that's his real name. Learn more about my guests and

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