1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Sexton Show Podcast. Second hour of Clay and Buck starts 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: right now. Everybody, thanks for being here with us. I said, 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: we talk about migrants and the border and also migrants 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: in New York City. Here a second, and we certainly 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: will the northern border, though we usually think of the 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: southern border. Do you see this, Clay, The northern border 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: has had a seven hundred plus percent spike in migrants 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: trying to cross. So between October one in December thirty 10 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: first of last year, the border patrol covering Vermont and 11 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: New Hampshire. You don't often think of that as a 12 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: border patrol sector, but it is one. They have even 13 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: seen a seven x surge. Now, the numbers are far 14 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: smaller than what you're dealing with at the US Mexico border. 15 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: Obviously you're looking more along the lines of the hundreds 16 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: instead of the thousands or hundreds of thousands that have 17 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: been crossing. But it's interesting just to see that it's 18 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: now from from both sides you have an illegal immigration 19 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: relative surge. It's enormous at our southern border by any standard, 20 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: but as a as a percentage a dramatic increase because 21 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: people realize that the Bid administration is not going to 22 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: do anything about about any of this. Yeah, there's a 23 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: there's a story buck to speak of this. Do you 24 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,199 Speaker 1: know how many Russians have come across our southern border? 25 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: A bunch thirty five thousand Russians have traveled to the 26 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: southern border, because I know this because there was a 27 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: story and it's interesting you mentioned the northern border. There 28 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: was a story in the New York Times Sunday edition 29 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: about two Russians who came in through a Alaska. They 30 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: went to the one of the small island outposts of 31 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: the United States. They fled from Russia and haven't claimed asylum. 32 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,399 Speaker 1: But the story was about the number of Russians who 33 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: have entered into the country and claimed asylum because of 34 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: the war that's going on, and the New York Times 35 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: number I believe thirty five thousand coming across the southern border, 36 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: which was a staggering number to me. I know, we've 37 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: talked about how many different countries people are coming to 38 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: Mexico and just deciding to walk across the southern border 39 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: and claim asylum. Thirty five thousand Russians was a jaw 40 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: dropping number to me, and they just fly to Mexico 41 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: basically and then walk right across the border. Since we're 42 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: talking jaw dropping numbers, five million immigrants illegal immigrants have 43 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: entered the United States since January of twenty twenty one, 44 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: when Joe Biden took over five five million in two years. Okay, 45 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: as we're looking at the data. Now we're looking at 46 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: the numbers, how much more open could the border be? 47 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: And you'll notice the Biden administration doesn't feel any urgency 48 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: on this issue. Isn't going to do anything other than 49 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: every time they say they're going to surge resources, particularly 50 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: at our southern border, every time they claim that they're 51 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 1: paying attention to it, it's just to add processing so 52 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:31,119 Speaker 1: that people can be more easily and readily let into 53 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: the United States. Think about it this way, everyone, they're 54 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: all saying, clay that they're asylum seekers. This is how 55 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: they gain This is the giant gaping hole in our 56 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: system that has been exploited, and it's really it's really immoral. 57 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I will say that this idea that you 58 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: can lie about being persecuted from your home country so 59 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: you can skip to the front of the immigration line, 60 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: there are people for whom getting asylum is a life 61 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: and death issue. These are not individuals. Ninety nine percent 62 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: of them more than that are not actually asylum seekers. 63 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: And the data bears all this out. The actual numbers 64 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: about who is going to get asylum. You know, maybe 65 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: one in ten will get some form of status given 66 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: to them, and that's probably high. But Clay, you have 67 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: to wonder, at what point does the Biden administration recognize 68 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: that this is unsustainable? If we're going to pretend to 69 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: even have a border, why even go through the motions? Buck, 70 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: And I'm glad you brought up that five million number 71 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: because I was thinking about this the other day. You 72 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: think about numbers and sometimes you don't contextualize them, and 73 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: I know I do this sometimes too. Let me give 74 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: you a context for what five million means in a 75 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: way that I think a lot of people out there 76 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: could understand. Basically, since Joe Biden became president, the entire 77 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: state of South Carolina we have added in population. So 78 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: if you have ever been to the state of South Carolina, 79 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: about five point two million people every single person in 80 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: South Carolina right now is how many people walked across 81 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: the border Alabama five million people. More people have come 82 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: into this country illegally under Joe Biden than live in Louisiana, Kentucky, Oregon, Oklahoma, Connecticut, Utah, Iowa, 83 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: a lot more Nevada, Arkansas, Mississippi. I mean, think about 84 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: when you talk about five million people, you're talking about 85 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: the entire state of Alabama or South Carolina and populations 86 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: that are more substantial than over basically half of the 87 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: populations in the United States right now. That's crazy to 88 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: think about. This is all on the premise because what 89 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: the activists and the you know, the left wing will 90 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: say is they're allowed to be here. They're seeking legal 91 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: status through the asylum system. How long does anyone think 92 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: it would take to process millions of asylum claims in 93 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: any sort of real way, meaning you're gonna figure out 94 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: who this person is, have them prove their story, you know, 95 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: give them their their day in court over asylum. The 96 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: way the increasingly, I think the way the Biden administration 97 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: is going to push for amnesty is a backdoor amnesty 98 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: where they're just going to try to make it so 99 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: that they what's going on the border is the credible 100 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: fear test that border patrol and immigration the Customs Enforcement 101 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: do where you have to say very very minimal things 102 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: to be oh, I'm now seeking defensive asylum in the US. 103 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: They've decided that they're not going to detain people, which 104 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: is against the law, by the way, but they don't care, 105 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: and they let them into the country. Clay if they 106 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: make it super easy to effectively get a rubber stamp 107 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: asylum claim done, that's a test. That's a switch that 108 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: they could have just from the system without necessarily getting 109 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: any change in legislation. I think that's something they're hoping 110 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: to accomplish because the Republicans in the House, I don't 111 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: believe will go along with a mass amnesty through legislation. 112 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: So there they've exploited the holes in the system to 113 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: let them in, to let them all stay indefinitely. I 114 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: think they're going to do the same thing. Obama administration 115 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: essentially did a version of this, but they weren't doing 116 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: it through the immigration courts. They were doing it by 117 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: just they were going to hand out IDs and work 118 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: visas to everybody who was coming in who was the 119 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: family member of a DACA recipient. I think it was 120 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: it was it was DACA and DAPPA deferred action for 121 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: childhood rivals, deferred action for the parents of arrivals. It 122 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: was gonna be like seven million people something like that 123 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: that they was going to give them. So this is 124 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: what we're heading toward five million people. How could you 125 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: even process that if you wanted to? I just think 126 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: again to contextualize, over half of American states have a 127 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: population that is smaller than that number basically, So if 128 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: you think about it from an Alabama or South Carolina perspective, 129 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: and remember it's going to grow, it'll move into during 130 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: this Biden administration next two years, it will move into 131 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: you know, probably a top ten, top twelve, top fourteen 132 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: state population where wherever you're listening to us right now, 133 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: during Joe Biden's tenure, your state population, there's a good 134 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: chance around twenty five states have five million people. Five 135 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: point two million people are fewer. That contextualizes it. And 136 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: you know a state like Wyoming buck has six hundred 137 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: thousand people, so you basically have had ten Wyomings enter 138 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: since Joe Biden became president. And if you're wondering, you 139 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: know the remember the old the old storyline we used 140 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: to hear about illegal immigrants was always they do the jobs, 141 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: Americans won't do they contribute to the economy, They're gonna 142 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: save Social Security. These are all these are all the 143 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: old Democrat talking foods. Meanwhile, you speak to Eric Adams 144 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: or any large city mayor right now with the influx 145 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: of migrants they have, and what do they all say. 146 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: We can't afford this. We can't afford to pay for 147 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: the housing, the food, effectively the room and board of 148 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: these different of these these migrant groups. And so that's 149 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: why we mentioned this in the last hour. In Hell's Kitchen, 150 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: New York City, they have a hotel where there are 151 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: migrants who have been housed and they are refusing. This 152 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: is on West fifty seventh Street, the Watson Hotel. The 153 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: migrants were told Clay they should move to the Brooklyn 154 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: Cruise Ship Terminal where they've set up a facility for migrants, 155 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: and they're protesting outside the hotel where they're staying at 156 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: tax payer expense, saying, now we like the four star hotel. 157 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna stay here. We don't want to 158 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: go to the other place. That's I'm just that this 159 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: is the mentality everybody. This is what's going on, and 160 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: you are paying for it. If you wonder why people 161 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: are coming, Imagine that you are living incredibly poor in 162 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: Latin America and one of your friends or family members 163 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: texts you and says, hey, I'm in New York City now, 164 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: right off Times Square in a four star hotel. I 165 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: got cable, I got you know, heating air, great bathroom. 166 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: This is how rich the United States is. They're just 167 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: putting us up in hotels that are probably nicer than 168 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: almost any hotels that exist in many of the countries 169 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: where these guys are coming from. Do you think that's 170 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: gonna persuade you that you shouldn't come, or you're gonna 171 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: be like, this is amazing. And remember they also probably 172 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: got a free bus ride to New York City from 173 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: Texas too. Right on top of everything else, you came 174 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: across illegally and you say, Okay, where would you like 175 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: to go? And you're like New York City and you 176 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 1: get popped on a bus. Next thing you know, you're 177 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: in New York City staying in a four star hotel 178 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: I get. I just questioned how many people in in 179 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: our listening audience have ever gotten to stay in a 180 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: four star hotel in Manhattan, much less our taxpayers paying 181 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: for it. It's crazy. I'm an American citizen and a 182 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: five showed up to a four star hotel, and I've 183 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: been paying taxes for time, haven't gotten very much for it. 184 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: If I showed up at a four star hotel and 185 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: said I I'm going to stay here for free and 186 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 1: have people bring me food for free and I get 187 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: to do whatever I want and this is now my home, 188 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: I assume hotel management would call the police and I 189 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: would be arrested right like that. That would just be 190 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: my my assumption. Now, I know they've been told by 191 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: the government authorities that they can stay here, but now 192 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: they're being told you gotta go, and they're saying, no, no, 193 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna We're gonna actually try to just stay here 194 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: at taxpayer expense. It's hundreds of millions of dollars, everybody, 195 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: can I also just put that out there, This is 196 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: not a small amount of money that the City of 197 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: New York is spending to houses migrants. And this is 198 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: why it was only that one time. But when the 199 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: migrants were were dropped off in Martha's vineyard. Martha's Vineyard, Yeah, 200 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Nantucket. Oh my gosh, the vineyard. 201 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: People are like, how dare you it was Nantucket, wasn't it. 202 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: I think it was Martha's vineyard. Oh the vineyard. It 203 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: was first time, yeah, yes, okay. So when they were 204 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: dropped off on one of those fancy islands, um it was. 205 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: It showed you what's really going on. It showed you 206 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: fifty people as all it took. Um. Yeah, that's that's 207 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: all it took. It's it's amazing that this is what 208 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: ended up happening. So I I just I can't get 209 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: over buck. I mean again, for anybody out there who's 210 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: who's listening to us, four star hotel in the heart 211 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: of Manhattan, Your taxpayer dollars are going to put illegal 212 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: immigrants in four star hotels in the heart of Manhattan. 213 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: And I just what percentage of you listening to us 214 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: right now could afford to go on a vacation right 215 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: now and stay in a four star hotel in the 216 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: heart of Manhattan. I bet not a huge percentage, right, 217 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: take your whole family travel there. You'd have to pay 218 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: for all of it. Illegal immigrants are doing it on 219 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: your taxpayer dollars. I just want what's the and what 220 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: is the expect these these are people who are really 221 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: not supposed to be in the country at all. Yes, 222 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: And can they live in this? Can they live in 223 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: a taxpayer expense for two years? For five years? You know, 224 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: how long did they get They put up in this 225 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: hotel for how long? Are a taxpayers on the hook 226 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: for this? It's amazing the Democrats are doing. They're protesting 227 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: because they don't want it to add But think about 228 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: what the incentive structure you are sending for people in 229 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: poor countries who hear that this is what happens when 230 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: you come to America. Wouldn't you travel if you had 231 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: an awful existence in a Latin American country and you 232 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: heard you could stay in a four star hotel in 233 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: New York City. I mean, the incentive structure is completely broken. 234 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: If I were a New Yorker who had been evicted 235 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: from my house or you know, my home in the 236 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: last six months, I would be really really angry because 237 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: you know, you didn't pay the bank, so you have 238 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: to go. But other people are getting free housing at 239 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: taxpayer for what on what basis they're not even supposed 240 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: to be in the country. 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Don't miss a 267 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: day of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Welcome 268 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: Back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Buck. I was 269 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: just reading this. One benefit there are relatively few from 270 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: Donald Trump not being in office. Is that CNN. I 271 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: think even Trump himself has said this. CNN has completely collapsed. 272 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: CNN just posted its lowest ratings in nine years, going 273 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: all the way back to twenty fourteen, before the idea 274 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: of Donald Trump ever being a political candidate. And one 275 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: of the fascinating things about the collapse of CNN And 276 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: but you saw it from the inside, because before CNN 277 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: lost its mind, you are actually a contributor there. When 278 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: you see that they are setting nine year failure records, 279 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: what do they do now? Like, how do you solve 280 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: CNN in any way? It is one of the most 281 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: spectacular media meltdowns I've ever seen, and it occurred. Really, 282 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: the transition happened when I was there, because I was 283 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: there for a couple of years, and so the first 284 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: year was pre Trump, and then the second year was 285 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: in the Republican primary, and Trump came to the forefront, 286 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: and the place just became unhinged. I mean you, there 287 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: was nothing that was too crazy that could be said 288 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: about Trump. The entire institution was trained effectively to despise 289 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: anyone who was speaking on behalf of Trump, and it 290 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: was obvious that at some point they were just gonna 291 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: drive the planet into a cliff, and they did. I mean, 292 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: this is there's no part of CNN's collapse that is 293 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: surprised that anybody who saw it was happening. It was 294 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 1: disgraceful what they did there. I mean because remember they 295 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: weren't an opinion channel, Clay, they were straight news. They 296 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: were still saying that while Donald Trump was in office. Well, 297 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: they destroyed their brand. And I would argue that the 298 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: greatest moment in CNN's history, and I bet a lot 299 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: of you will remember this was the initial Gulf War 300 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: that we fought. 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You had famous Hollywood actors 327 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: Ben Stiller and Sean Penn, among others, go over to 328 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: visit with Zelenski. He has spoken via did did he speak? 329 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: It was it the oscars or the what was the 330 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: didn't he speak? It's that's happening soon, right, I think? Yeah, yeah, 331 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: So so whenever you're having when big important international people, uh, 332 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: you know, international event happens, Davos, whatever you gotta, you 333 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: gotta pipe in Zelenski via Skype wearing the T shirt, 334 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: the whole thing he spoke to Uh, he spoke to 335 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: our Congress, you remember, and in the obviously recently the 336 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: Biden minis ration invited him. And this has become we're 337 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: supposed to believe a cause of righteousness. That also is 338 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: something that we should be very invested, literally quite invested in. 339 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: As we are paying the bills here, you are paying 340 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: the bills to the tune of one hundred billion dollars 341 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: for this year. Right now, we're having a conversation in 342 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: this country about thirty one trillion dollars of debt. The 343 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: national debt is quite high, I think by anyone standard, 344 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: thirty one trillion dollars a lot of money. We're sending 345 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 1: one hundred billion dollars to Ukraine. We're told that this 346 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: is a good investment. This is something that we both 347 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: are morally obligated to do and strategically benefit from. That 348 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: is the consensus position of the foreign policy elites, whatever 349 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: you think of them, the Biden administration, a lot of 350 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: Republicans too, There are a lot of Republicans are on 351 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: board for this. I'm just going to point out that 352 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: right now there are some people who are whisper and 353 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: increasingly I think, going to start shouting that Russia is 354 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: planning a massive offensive with new conscripts. This is a 355 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: war unlike any of the US has fought in recent decades. 356 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: This is this is tanks against tanks, This is dug 357 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: in fighting positions, advanced militaries slugging it out, and the 358 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: Russian escalation clay is already leading to Zelenski demanding faster provision. 359 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: It's not even enough to get him all the munitions 360 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 1: and pay all the bills. We have to get him 361 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: faster stuff. We're sending Abrams tanks as we know, the 362 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: Germans are sending Leopard tanks. Now there's conversation ongoing about 363 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: an even more advanced weapons missile system that we could 364 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: send to Ukraine to extend their range of being able 365 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: to hit the Russians. We're back to the when are 366 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: we going to start providing planes? And here's the problem. 367 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: A lot of military analysts in Clay are starting to 368 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: see that there is there doesn't There is no reality 369 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: of Ukraine defeating Russia in any short period of time. 370 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: That doesn't seem possible or plausible at all. So are 371 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: we just going to commit to sending never mind the 372 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: possibility of escalation and what could happen if that. It 373 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: feels like we're not even supposed to talk about that. 374 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: But one hundred billion dollars a year. Should the American 375 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: people pay one hundred billion dollars a year for Ukraine 376 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: to fight Russia for the next five years? Is that 377 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: a good usage of American treasure? I would argue no, 378 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: particularly because, as you mentioned, we're now over thirty one 379 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: trillion dollars in debt, and the debt interest alone is 380 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: continuing to eat up a higher and higher percentage of 381 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: that which we are going to be obligated to pay. 382 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 1: But also with the now adding tanks, the next step 383 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: will be, well, should we bring in some old aircraft? 384 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: It seems to me like we are continuing to tiptoe 385 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: into an escalating conflict. And you know, the idea last 386 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: year at this time, I'd bet buck if you had 387 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: floated the idea, hey, we need to send as many 388 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: tanks as we can to Ukraine, I think most people 389 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: would have set out, that's a little bit too much. 390 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: And now we're sending tanks and there doesn't even hardly 391 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: seem to be a debate at all about whether that's 392 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: appropriate or whether it further embeds US in this battle. 393 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: And I would just point out that American responses, very 394 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: often to foreign interests are based on the idea of, hey, 395 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: they sent the weapons that they are using to kill us. Right. 396 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 1: One of the reasons we took out Solomoni was because 397 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: he was involved in helping to provide the material to 398 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: allow the wounding, maiming and killing of American troops, So 399 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: you are thinking about from the Russian perspective, would you 400 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: be like, Oh, those aren't Americans in the tanks, those 401 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: are just American tanks. Would that distinction really start to 402 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: matter to you? Or if you're Russia, are you like, Oh, 403 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: America's now in this war against us and that next 404 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: step of adding planes. At some point the materials are 405 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: substantial enough that you have to almost consider yourself to 406 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: be an enemy combatant. And we should probably think about 407 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: that before we find out the hard way what that 408 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: red line debate about the tanks? Buck? Have you seen 409 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: anybody say, Hey, I don't know that's a that's an escalation. 410 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: I don't know that we need to take that step. 411 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: And the fact that we've gone from we're just going 412 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: to provide certain things, and there'll be limitations on it too. 413 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: Now we're sending Abrams tanks, and we might be sending 414 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: even more advanced self propelled our artillery and missile systems. 415 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: At what point are we just gonna say, you know what, 416 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,959 Speaker 1: We're gonna give them planes? Would give them everything so 417 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: that they can defeat Russia. The interest here in defeating 418 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: Russia and Ukraine? Is it open checkbook time? Is it endless? 419 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: Is there any is there any point at which the 420 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: people that think that we should be provided. Look, Pompeo 421 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 1: was on the show last week and he said, give 422 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 1: them anything they want, anything they need to defeat Russia. 423 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: That seems kind of extreme to be Is this really 424 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: that important to the United States? And also, how does 425 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: this all look. Let's say we do go into and 426 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: I get all the emails people say we're already in 427 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: a recession. Weren't in enough of a recession to get 428 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 1: the Democrats crushed in the midterms, folks, So you know, 429 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: if we're in a recession, it hasn't really hasn't really 430 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: bitten all that hard quite yet. But let's say we 431 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: go into a depression or a major recession. Are we 432 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: gonna want to fund one hundred billion dollars a year 433 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: for the war in Ukraine? Is that something that people 434 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,239 Speaker 1: are going to want to continue to do. I have 435 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: to say, you know, there's not really much communication about this, 436 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: and people that say we have an interest it's an 437 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: investment in our future to keep hearing that an investment 438 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: in our security. I don't think whoever controls Eastern Ukraine 439 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: matters to me in my life. And I'm a little 440 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: bit concerned here that we just went through a couple 441 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: of wars, Clay, where you weren't allowed to ever really 442 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: be the one standing up and saying, hey, what are 443 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: we really trying to accomplish here? Now? Like? What is 444 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: the actual goal? Because anybody who knew anything about Afghanistan 445 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: knew that it was going to end more or less 446 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: the way it ended, minus the way the Biden administration 447 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: did it, but that it was heading in that direction. 448 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: That's been the case for fifteen years. Not only that, Buck, 449 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: what about the expense involved if China does decide to 450 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: invade Taiwan? Because I'm sure you saw the American general 451 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: over the weekend that's got a lot of attention. He 452 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 1: had sent a memo basically to all of his troops saying, 453 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: I think that China's going to invade Taiwan in twenty 454 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: twenty five. Now, whether or not that ends up being true, 455 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: we know that we would then, I think more so 456 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: than with Russia, because I think China is a bigger 457 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: threat to US than Russia is. But are we going 458 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: to spend hundreds of billions of dollars also simultaneously defending 459 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,479 Speaker 1: Taiwan from Chinese aggression? Are we going to end up 460 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: in a situation? And I can understand the argument of well, 461 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: what's going on in Ukraine shows that we will stand 462 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: in defense of Taiwan, But can we afford to do both? 463 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: I don't hear anybody hardly asking that question. But if 464 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: we're spending one hundred billion dollars plus and it's a 465 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: never ending checkbook of essentially a ground ward that is 466 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: that is building its own Magino line, it almost feels 467 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: like right where you're just embedded there and neither side 468 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 1: can move that much. Are we going to invest tens 469 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: of billions of dollars on an annuity basis for Ukraine 470 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: while simultaneously potentially having to do the same thing in Taiwan? 471 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: And can we afford to do both given to where 472 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: our budget situations are right now? It's a real honest 473 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: adult questions that are should be asked, that are being 474 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: asked by very many people. I think there's very little 475 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 1: discussion about what the Biden administration is seeking to achieve, 476 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: because anyone who's paying attention to Ukraine right now would say, 477 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,479 Speaker 1: it doesn't look like we will be able to support 478 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: a Ukrainian breakthrough and expulsion of Russian forces in the 479 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: next year and perhaps for years. Yes, So this this 480 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 1: thing of oh, if we just keep giving them stuff, 481 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: they'll do the fighting. Okay, five years, how long do 482 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,719 Speaker 1: we Because the Russian the Russian Federation, as much as 483 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: we were led to believe we're going to cripple them 484 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: with our sanctions, it was all lies, crap, nonsense. The 485 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: Russian Federation is huge, has a lot of people, and 486 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: is not going to stop. So I don't know. I 487 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: feel like maybe maybe the Biden administration, the people that 488 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: are involved in this calling the shots, they're not very 489 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: smart on anything else. I would I assume they're smart 490 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: on this. I was approaching from that perspective. I think 491 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: it's a fantastic question. And again, in the context of 492 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: what might happen in Taiwan in the wake of what 493 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: this American general is saying, are we able to have 494 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: effectively a two fronted war. Maybe we're going to be 495 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: directly involved in Taiwan, and that's going to be different. 496 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: But it seems like a huge mess, and it certainly 497 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: is a massive expenditure that doesn't appear to be ending 498 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: anytime soon. I want to bring your attention to something else. 499 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: I'm here today because my mother chose life. You're here 500 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: today because your mother chose life. 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Really, I would say the first substantial I'm 527 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: running for president moves for Trump Since he announced the 528 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: week after the mid terms, he hadn't really been on 529 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: the road very much. South Carolina early primary. We've talked 530 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: about that could be a battleground state. Certainly New Hampshire 531 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,719 Speaker 1: will be both a battleground state and an early primary. 532 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: And Trump, well, he was talking about as only he can, 533 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: the Hunter Biden Joe Biden laptop. Listen, we have a president. 534 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: His son's laptop from Hill gets taken over and exposes 535 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: massive corruption like nobody's ever seen before. Do you think 536 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: the father do you ever hear this? Do you think 537 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: the father was upset? Dad? I left my laptop in 538 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: a repair shop. I forgot to pick it up, and 539 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: this repair guy went a little crazy when he saw, 540 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: Well what was on it? What's on it's son, every 541 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: crime that you've ever committed. But at what point does 542 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: the father get angry? You know, like this kid is 543 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: not working out well for me. It's actually pretty funny. Again. 544 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: Trump's humor, I think is by far the most underrated 545 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: aspect of his entire political personae. He is very full 546 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: as you know, Buck just don't get it. They don't 547 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: really get the entertainment aspect of him. But he's making 548 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: an important point there. Well, yes, and it's such an 549 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: interesting reminder that Hunter Biden left his laptop. I mean, 550 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: what are the things that you could possibly leave in 551 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: a place that you know you would never forget about? Wallet? Phone, yeah, laptop, 552 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: I mean those are you know, whatever I'm going anywhere, 553 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: traveling anywhere, as long as I have my wallet on 554 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: my phone, my laptop and everything else, I'll have Amazon 555 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: delivered like I don't really care. Yeah, figure it out. 556 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: But those are the things that you obviously need to 557 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: keep keep an eye on and keep track of and 558 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: the fact that he just left it behind and left 559 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: it beyond the time period in which it becomes property 560 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: of the you know, the repair shop John Paul mciaac, 561 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: the guy in the repair shop in Delaware Buck. If 562 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: he hadn't made a copy of it, I think this 563 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: is important. I had this conversation with Miranda Divine. It's 564 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: up in the podcast in the podcast role at Clay 565 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: and Buck. We would have never known this laptop existed 566 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: because remember, the FBI's had it for over three years, now, right, 567 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: They got it in December of twenty nineteen, if I 568 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: remember correctly, and now we're sitting here in twenty twenty three. 569 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: If he hadn't made a copy of everything on that 570 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: laptop and retained it, I don't think the FBI would 571 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: have ever acknowledged that they had this laptop at all. 572 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: Certainly they haven't done anything with it yet. Where is it, 573 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: We don't even know. I think they would have destroyed it, 574 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: and I think they would have claimed they never had 575 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: it and they did a desearch and research on it 576 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: and it wasn't actually Hunter Bidens. I still don't understand 577 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: not to just jump around to topics. I still don't 578 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: understand how all these individuals had You know, the only 579 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: one that makes sense to me is Trump, because Trump 580 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 1: his team took you know, he took the stuff, stored 581 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: it and said, I was a president, I'm taking this stuff. 582 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: It's mine. Yeah, that I can understand you doing. But 583 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: the other stuff with Biden, and yes, with Pence, who 584 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: is now having to do the whole maya culpa thing, 585 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: he's like, you know, oh, actually we have audio of 586 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: him saying this thing. Right, Pence is saying, I'm totally 587 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: responsible for this play it. I think, oh, I thought 588 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,240 Speaker 1: we had it. My bad. I was of the mind 589 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: that we had something along those laves sixteen sixteen. There 590 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: we go. Those classified documents should not have been in 591 00:34:55,600 --> 00:35:00,760 Speaker 1: my personal residence. Mistakes were made, and I take full responsibility, 592 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: and I directed my counsel to work with the National Archives, 593 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: with the Department of Justice, and with the Congress to 594 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: fully cooperate in any investigation. I mean they say fully cooperate. 595 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: They're all gonna skate. None of them are gonna get 596 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 1: in trouble. And people that have worked at the national 597 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: security side, we'll all say, you know, I wouldn't just 598 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: get get to skate on this one, but they'll they'll 599 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 1: all skate. I just think it's it's remarkable they didn't 600 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: just destroy the stuff. Like I keep coming back to this. 601 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: You know, you find this stuff, you throw it in 602 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: the fireplace, you don't call the National Archives. So we 603 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: gotta call last week from a listener that I thought 604 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: was really good, and I went and did research on 605 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,919 Speaker 1: it because I was like, how many classified documents are there? 606 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: Because his question was one that I think a lot 607 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 1: of you out there might in the back of your 608 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: mind have, which is, if something's missing from the classified documents, 609 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: how would there be no one who knew that it 610 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: was missing? Buck The number of classified documents fifty million 611 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: of them right now in the United States, fifty million. 612 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: So if you're out there and you're like, wouldn't they 613 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: know if there were six pages of classified documents missing, No, 614 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: it's the government fifty million classified document designations. Yeah, that's crazy. 615 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: I knew it was a lot, but when I saw 616 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: fifty million, I was like, that is unprecedented amount of 617 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: classified documents. So they don't know where it all is, 618 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: that's for sure. We come back we got some good 619 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: audio far I'm gonna play this for Buck, the Mayor 620 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: of Cincinnati. I'm sorry for those of you in Cincinnati. 621 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: I think we're number one in the city right now 622 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,919 Speaker 1: because you lost last night in the AFC Championship play. 623 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: The Mayor of Cincinnati, Buck has not heard this, gave 624 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: a proclamation that is one of the most ridiculous that 625 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: has everybody furious at him in the city of Cincinnati. 626 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: If you haven't heard it, you're gonna love it. I'm 627 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 1: gonna play it for Anax. This play by