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Speaker 1: Ridiculous crime. It's a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And there she is here. I am missus ridiculous Howdy dooties.

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Speaker 3: So I got a question for you, Elizabeth Dutton, is

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Speaker 3: do you know it's ridiculous?

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Speaker 4: I do. It's a mashup.

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Speaker 3: I can tell from your face that I'm not gonna

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Speaker 3: like this.

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Speaker 4: It's a up esther on Instagram.

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Speaker 3: Esther.

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Speaker 5: She sent this, and she and I were kind of

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Speaker 5: on the same page with how this is just kind

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Speaker 5: of not al right.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, that's at least that you guys are coming around.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw.

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Speaker 5: I saw like what she had typed in about, you know,

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Speaker 5: the emojis and what the interns emoji dot it. Basically

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Speaker 5: it was like this this Instagram reel by and I

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Speaker 5: think it was originated on TikTok by this food influencer

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Speaker 5: eats by Nat.

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Speaker 4: I'm familiar whatever, Yeah, it's I am not the audience

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Speaker 4: for this.

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Speaker 5: Like she's one of those ones has those long, pointy

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Speaker 5: fake nails and taps them on things and then when

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Speaker 5: she eats things, she puts.

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Speaker 4: It right up.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to look while you're like really going

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Speaker 5: to town on something.

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Speaker 3: I've been sent to videos I just can't.

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Speaker 4: I can't with any of that stuff. It's just all garbage.

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Speaker 5: Everybody garbage, everything's garbage. So the garbage that she was

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Speaker 5: slinging was that she had Panda Express with her.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I've ever had Panda Express.

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Speaker 3: Really yeah, California, and you just jumped out, You're just

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Speaker 3: like I never dained.

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Speaker 4: I just just it dawned on me when I was

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Speaker 4: watching it. I was like, Oh, that looks like Safeway,

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Speaker 4: like grocery store Chinese.

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Speaker 3: No, it's more like mall food court Chinese food. It's

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Speaker 3: as good as grocery store.

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Speaker 4: Because I have a soft spot for cheap grocery store Chinese.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. No, that's better than mall food.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So she was like horfing on some But what she

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Speaker 5: was pulling out and tapping her nails on is there's

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Speaker 5: this company Campartis, and I think I've talked about them before.

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Speaker 5: There there are frequent flyers on here. They're you know,

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Speaker 5: they've done time with me before. Chocolate company. Oh, they

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Speaker 5: have a selection of Panda Express chocolate bars. That doesn't

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Speaker 5: seem No, they're twelve bucks a pop. There's Fortune Cookie

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Speaker 5: and then honey Walnut. Okay, those aren't so bad. White

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Speaker 3: Gross.

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Speaker 5: Then there's orange, like the orange chicken, and that was

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Speaker 5: what she was mowing down on and apparently just tastes

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Speaker 5: like orange sauce.

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Speaker 3: That's what I would imagine.

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Speaker 5: No chicken in the chocolate. And then there's like a

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Speaker 5: Kung pao chicken, which I would imagine is just like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's what I did. Today's Aaron, What did

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Speaker 4: you do today? Elizabeth? Oh?

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Speaker 5: I looked at this and then I got really mad

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Speaker 5: about a lot of things in life. Welcome to I

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Speaker 5: got mad about not at esther for recommending this never ever.

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Speaker 5: I got mad about influencers. I got mad about those

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Speaker 5: long ass nails and they took it a tap tap

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Speaker 5: things like knock it off, stop it, I don't care,

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Speaker 5: stop it, and then like you know, forcefully putting this

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Speaker 4: I didn't need to see that.

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Speaker 5: And what I do for you, s Sarin, and what

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Speaker 5: I do for this show, I demand respect.

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Speaker 3: You're like a moderator just to look the most heinous

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Speaker 3: stuff I am.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, yes, I sometimes when I look at these mashups.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, you know what, this is what it must

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Speaker 5: be like to work for Inner pol and have to

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Speaker 5: look at really upsetting images and be like, okay, where

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Speaker 5: would that that package in the back? Can I narrow

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 4: The psychological scarring that happens.

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Speaker 3: I have a hard time with just eating on camera.

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Speaker 3: And I saw recently this person who like they went

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Speaker 3: to eat something and they were like, Oh, I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: And I was like, okay, that's that's your own problem, right,

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Speaker 3: And then he goes and he takes like, you know,

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Speaker 4: That's disgusting.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if you remember, but one time we

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Speaker 5: were here at work and I had a burrito and

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Speaker 5: you weren't eating, and you were sitting at the table

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Speaker 5: and you were looking at me. As I told you

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Speaker 5: to turn around, don't watch me eat this burrito. You

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Speaker 5: were like, what, Like, no one should watch someone eat

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Speaker 5: a burrito. You're about to see something unholy.

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Speaker 3: I have to admit I don't remember that, but it

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Speaker 3: does sound like us.

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Speaker 4: And your honor insummation. That's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: Gabble, gabble, gabble. We agreed. By by the way, sit

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Speaker 3: back down, because I got something ridiculous for you.

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Speaker 4: I'm so mad.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, being the most famous draft dodger from a

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Speaker 3: world war and that's not even the most interesting part

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Speaker 3: of your life.

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Speaker 2: Oh really, this is Ridiculous Crime A podcast about absurd

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Speaker 2: and outrageous.

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Speaker 3: Capers, heists, and cons. It's always ninety nine percent murder

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Speaker 3: free and one hundred percent but ridiculous. Woo oh, Elizabeth.

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Speaker 3: Now I say this often, but this is a wild one.

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Speaker 3: My goodness, and I need to give credit for credit

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Speaker 3: as due. A rude dude emailed us this story as

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Speaker 3: a tip. Oh really, Alexandra Spurlock, wrote deer producer d

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Speaker 3: great start. By the way, Alexandra that's how they're supposed

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Speaker 3: to go. And then Alex, because that's she later on

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Speaker 3: signed the email, Yeah you're nasty to write quote. I'm

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Speaker 3: reading this book called Burg Doll Boys about a rich

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Speaker 3: brewery family in the early nineteen hundreds who were daredevil

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Speaker 3: race car drivers, early flyers of right airplanes, and committed

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Speaker 3: a series of ridiculous crimes to evade the draft in

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Speaker 3: World War One. And I was like, you got me?

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Speaker 5: Yeah right, Like that's that's so custom made for It

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Speaker 5: was engineered in a lab for you.

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Speaker 3: For real. It was like if you were going to

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Speaker 3: make like a baited hook for a fish, that hook

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Speaker 5: I if I wanted to trap you, I would put

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you just got me. So I looked into the

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Speaker 3: story and thank you, Alex. Just a great one. Is

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Speaker 3: Alex is a doozy, a full dews in Burg. So

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Speaker 3: in order to from spiraling this into a multi part series,

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Speaker 3: we will focus on just one of the Burg Doll Boys,

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Speaker 3: the one that they named Grover.

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Speaker 4: Cleveland Burg Doll Get out of town.

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Speaker 3: Swear to God, I'm staying in town. He was the

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Speaker 3: son of a wealthy family of brewers, as Alex noted

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Speaker 3: in the Philadelphia area, the family owned City Park Brewery

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Speaker 3: rap City Park Brewery, as well as the aptly named

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Speaker 3: Bergdhal Mansion. More on that later. Now, Grover Cleveland Burghdahll

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Speaker 3: Grover Cleveland Burgdall, Yes, thank you. He had an older

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Speaker 4: Erwin Burgdal, Yeah, I know someone named Erwin with an E.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Thus the book told the burg Doll boys. Now

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Speaker 3: Erwin Bergdahl was born June twenty fourth, eighteen ninety and

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Speaker 3: his baby brother, Grover Cleveland Bergdahl, was born October eighteenth,

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Speaker 3: keep typing brother the twins, Yes in your mind, Yes,

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Speaker 3: not of the president but you know who has obviously

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Speaker 3: the same name, sure, but rather it reminded me of

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Speaker 3: the sesame Street bluefird monster character Grover, who I much

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Speaker 3: does he count as a Muppet. Yeah. Sure. According to Wikipedia,

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Speaker 3: he is a blue Muppet character.

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Speaker 4: Sesame Street Guy Muppets.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's like Jim Henson's name for the puppets

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Speaker 3: he created were muppets.

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Speaker 4: Right, Okay, man puppets.

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Speaker 3: Now. The reason I ask about this is that Kermit

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Speaker 3: the grandson of Teddy Roosevelt. Kermit Roosevelt. Right, Kermit Roosevelt

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Speaker 5: Wait, he's literally that was what Kermit the Frog. Kermit

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Speaker 5: the Frog was named after. I don't know for fair,

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Speaker 5: you're just making this.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's my supposition. So, Kermit Roosevelt, he overthrows Prime

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Speaker 3: Minister Mohammed Mosadek in Iran in nineteen fifty three, Okay,

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 3: Coincidentally, Kermit the Frog was created in nineteen fifty five.

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Speaker 3: It seems interesting that Kermit, who's in the news in

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Speaker 3: fifty three, and then we have Kermit in fifty five.

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Speaker 4: Wait, so that you didn't find any other sources connecting them.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Jim Henson would want to admit.

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Speaker 3: Yes, me doing the full Charlie Day like this is

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Speaker 3: look at all this. I got the wall of red thread.

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Speaker 4: Now, miir.

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Speaker 5: I was like, wow, that's fascinating. Would you read that

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Speaker 3: No, this is just but I got more. My point

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Speaker 3: is with Grover and Kermit, it made me wonder how

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Speaker 3: many muppets were named after US presidents or their descendants.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean there's snuffle Up, I guess yeah.

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Speaker 3: But there is another one, Roosevelt Franklin, which is obviously

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Speaker 3: a reverse of Franklin, Roosevelt Ak and my man. Roosevelt

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Speaker 3: Franklin was a black Muppet character, even though he had

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Speaker 3: seventies as a response to criticism that Sesame Street was

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Speaker 3: too white, so they created Franklin Roosevelt, and he was

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Speaker 3: He would spit little raps and rhymes about up and down,

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Speaker 3: decide how many muppets are named after presidents or their descendants.

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Speaker 3: The character of Grover isn't called Grover around the world,

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Speaker 3: like in Puerto Rico and much of Latin America, Grover

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, totally, And like all my nephew was suddenly

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Speaker 3: Anything with Whalen.

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Speaker 4: I'll watch right me too.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, back to the Start Today show, Grover Cleveland Burke Dall.

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Speaker 3: Now he's this early twentieth century rich kid, and he

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Speaker 4: That's you. I go slow, you go fast.

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Speaker 3: So he owned like mini fast cars. And this is

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Speaker 4: For speeding arrested.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and he was so reckless that he was

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Speaker 4: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: He was arrested on multiple occasions for his speeding habit

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Speaker 4: Grow over the speed Fend, right, It was.

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Speaker 3: Like, I mean, I just love anytime you can put

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Speaker 3: was born in eighteen ninety three, which means when he

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Speaker 3: was amazed by this feet like, can you imagine being

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Speaker 3: or really just being an eleven just regardless of gender, Like,

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Speaker 4: Yeah you can go.

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Speaker 5: Fast in the sky now, right, I mean that wasn't

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Speaker 4: It was like, oh god, we're like eight feet off

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, not the very first.

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Speaker 4: The very first you could see kitty hawk, baby, you.

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Speaker 3: Can see where it's going.

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Speaker 5: I would be an unimpressed eleven year old. You know

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Speaker 5: you're not going where eagles dare to fly.

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Speaker 4: Get back to me when you are.

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Speaker 3: You're a tough one. I am so Grover Cleveland burg Doll.

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Speaker 3: He grows up fascinated by this new fangled invention the airplane,

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Speaker 3: the lucky one hundred and nineteen people who got to

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Speaker 5: This is like Jeff Bezos and has going to space

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Speaker 5: stuff like he's basically Katie Perry.

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Speaker 3: Way cooler, Jaale King so much cool.

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Speaker 4: No, this is exactly like that.

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Speaker 3: To this point, he likes flying so much he buys

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Speaker 4: Which what was up today? Did you even did bother

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Speaker 3: Elizabeth? Of course conversion match. I had to look this

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Speaker 4: I he use a special one. I'll give you the link.

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Speaker 3: No, I have a couple, give me the link. So anyway,

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Speaker 3: it was one hundred and sixty seven thousand dollars to.

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Speaker 4: A young guy.

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Speaker 3: He's about eighteen maybe nineteen years old, and his parents

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Speaker 4: They had to, they didn't have it yet totally.

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Speaker 3: And he's a precedent center pretty much that you look

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Speaker 3: burg Doll Amendment. So Grover, the Philly police they bust

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Speaker 3: him for one of his daredevil moves where he would

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Speaker 3: just like always scaring barnyard animals, he's scaring the fine

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Speaker 3: Oh literally, like you know that in Philadelphia there's a

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Speaker 3: build right. Well, he would go and my man Grover

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Speaker 3: Cleveland burg Doll would give the old like Tom Cruise

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Speaker 3: and forty eight flights and not once did he killed

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Speaker 4: Total success, kill anybody else?

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Speaker 3: No, did not good for this. Yes, Eventually, thanks to

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Speaker 3: his behavior, and his place in society, it earned this

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Speaker 3: Playboy of the Eastern Seaboard. Oh yeah, he's he's single, ladies.

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Speaker 4: So playboy.

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Speaker 3: He goes off to college at the University of Penn.

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Speaker 5: If it was just so raunchy, it could be all

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a zine of porn, but like just

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Speaker 3: this they Love Speed Elizabeth. From nineteen oh nine to

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Speaker 3: this is a grover. He also obviously speed right, and

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Speaker 3: And so he went to join his big brother who

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Speaker 5: My grandpa told me once that when he was a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I was like, what's too fast. He's like

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Speaker 5: Seriously, I was like, that makes sense, That's how I

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Speaker 3: But also you have to remember they they didn't have windshields,

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Speaker 5: Behind that even with the full windshield. Yeah, windscreen for

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Speaker 4: Grandpa, I like, my skin's pulling back from my face.

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Speaker 3: He's turning blue.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, as I pass out now.

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Speaker 3: At this point, I don't know if Grover Cleveland BERGDLL

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Speaker 3: attempted to have him declared legally insane, but it didn't work.

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Speaker 3: I guess Mama gave him money for the lawyer because

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Speaker 4: So just like we only do that to the ladies

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Speaker 3: Family now, despite as many crashes, the litany of people

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Speaker 3: dodging of death. Things were going well for Grover Cleveland

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Speaker 3: Burgdhal right up until nineteen seventeen. Okay, Elizabeth, you want

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Speaker 3: to guess what happened in nineteen seventeen that changed everything

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Speaker 3: for the playboy of the Eastern Seaboard. Uh, you're gonna

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Speaker 3: the US entered World War One. And no, yes, truly,

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Speaker 3: Really they called it the Great One.

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Speaker 5: No, at the time, they said it's World War One,

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Speaker 3: Now, being that he was just twenty three years old

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Speaker 3: at the time, Grover Cleveland Bergdal was drafted into the

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Speaker 3: they were like, no, I don't want to go. Well, flat,

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Speaker 4: They are good for them, Dulce at the Kora mess.

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Speaker 3: Seriously, right, but the fat that the family was ethnically

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Speaker 5: That goes over well at home to be ethnically German

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Speaker 5: and dodging the drum right.

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Speaker 3: So, first up, Grover Cleveland burg Doll skips out on

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Speaker 3: his physical, Then he fails to show up for his

440
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Speaker 3: intake questionnaire, and finally, on the day he he's due

441
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Speaker 3: to be inducted officially, he's also a no show. Three strikes,

442
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 3: He's out. It took a few months for the army

443
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 3: to catch up on paperwork, but finally, nineteen eighteen, Grover

444
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 3: Cleveland burg Doll gets declared an official deserter and for

445
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,159
Speaker 3: the next two years he has to evade police and

446
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 3: the military police in order to continue to dodge the draft. Wow,

447
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 3: his big brother, Irwin wasn't so lucky. He was caught.

448
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 3: He was locked up in prison for three years for

449
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 3: violating the Selective Service Act of nineteen seventy.

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Speaker 4: So they just put him in jail. They didn't send

451
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Speaker 4: him over to fight the jerry.

452
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Speaker 3: No, they don't think they trusted him at that point.

453
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, probably now.

454
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, the US government. They decided to turn this draft

455
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Speaker 3: dodging rich kid into a cautionary tale, and so they

456
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,439
Speaker 3: make wanted posters. They create them, they circulate them around

457
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Speaker 3: the country and declare that Grover Cleveland burg Doll is

458
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Speaker 3: a wanted man. So where is Grover Cleveland burg Doll?

459
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Speaker 3: Is he? Great question, Elizabeth, After this short commercial break,

460
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Speaker 3: which we have nothing to do with, by the way,

461
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Speaker 3: so don't blame us if you don't like the ads,

462
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 3: so we don't select them. We will catch back up

463
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Speaker 3: with the draft dodging rich kid, who it'd soon become

464
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Speaker 3: the most hated man in America. We're back, Elizabeth. There

465
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Speaker 3: are you ready to catch up with Grover Cleveland berg Doll.

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Speaker 4: I have been waiting my whole life for this.

467
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Speaker 3: So where do you think this cocky rich kid is

468
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 3: hiding out while other young men his age are being

469
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Speaker 3: shipped off to war in Europe.

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Speaker 4: In tunnels under the city of Poughkeepsie.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, Elizabeth. I can tell you this

472
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 3: I did where I can tell you where he gets caught.

473
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Speaker 4: At your mom's house.

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Speaker 3: No close guests though. In nineteen twenty, after spending two

475
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Speaker 3: years on the LAMB, during which time he was sending

476
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Speaker 3: letters to taunt the draft board, what from various places

477
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Speaker 3: like in the southern United States. Some letters were postmarked

478
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Speaker 3: from Mexico see the zodiac just pretty much just not

479
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 3: as ambitious. So clearly, why why would you right? You?

480
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:11,199
Speaker 3: Like I said, some cocky ridge can't catch me. So

481
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 3: eventually the authorities they discovered that Grover Cleveland burg Doll

482
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 3: was presently hiding out at his parents' house. Not my

483
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 3: mom's house, Elizabeth. His mom's house is the Burgdll Mansion

484
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,439
Speaker 3: now Elizabeth. This place lived up to the hype. It

485
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Speaker 3: was a twenty four room greystone like they have in Pennsylvania. Greystone, yeah,

486
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Speaker 3: castle in a suburb of Philadelphia. It was a big

487
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Speaker 3: ass home. It wouldn't be easy to find him hiding

488
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Speaker 3: in there, that's how big the house is. Oh I'm sure,

489
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Speaker 3: but scratch that. It wasn't easy getting in to look

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Speaker 3: for him.

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Speaker 5: Into the house, they've got like gates and moats and alligators.

492
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Speaker 4: And his mom and his big old mama.

493
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Speaker 3: With a pistol. When the federal agent showed up in

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Speaker 3: the twenty four room castle, his mother, Emma Bergdahal, was

495
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Speaker 3: there to greet them, and she was packed heat, like

496
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Speaker 3: she was Mab Barker. She came out onto the steps

497
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Speaker 3: and like aimed a thirty eight caliber pistol at the

498
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Speaker 3: federal agents and said, you can't have my baby boy.

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Speaker 3: According to the New York Times, Mama Bergdall quote threatened

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Speaker 3: to shoot the officers and was disarmed after a rough

501
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 3: and tuble fight.

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Speaker 4: So she put up a hot fight with.

503
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Speaker 3: Like more than a dozen federal agents.

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Speaker 5: You know, those are the good old days when you

505
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Speaker 5: could hold federal agents at gunpoint and not get lit

506
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Speaker 5: up on your own front porch.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for real though, So eventually the more than a

508
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Speaker 3: dozen federal officers were able to overpower and disarm the mother,

509
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Speaker 3: and then they raided the castle from the front and

510
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Speaker 3: the back. As the New York Times reported, strategy was

511
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Speaker 3: used and the front and rear entrances were forced at

512
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Speaker 3: the same time. So once they enter the home and

513
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Speaker 3: search the premises of federal agents do end up locating

514
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Speaker 3: old Grover Cleveland. Where they found him was he was

515
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Speaker 3: hiding out in a window seat, buried beneath a few blankets.

516
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Speaker 3: But that kind of undersells it. Back to the New

517
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Speaker 3: York Times quote, a search of the house revealed grover

518
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Speaker 3: hiding a a window box seat on the second floor

519
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 3: of the house. The seat was covered with neatly folded blankets,

520
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 3: and on top of these were thick plush curtains. The

521
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 3: hunted man lying inside the box was covered with a

522
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 3: blue cloth. He made no resistance as he was instantly

523
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 3: covered by several pistols. I guess it's all up. I'm

524
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 3: glad it is over, but I am no deserter, was

525
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 3: all berg Doll would say when captured.

526
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Speaker 4: You know that he was like, this is the best

527
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Speaker 4: hiding spot.

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Speaker 5: Totally, Mom, put the blankets in the tot on me

529
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Speaker 5: close the top stack all these blankets, pull the drapes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll never look in the box seat.

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Speaker 4: Why don't they have secret rooms?

532
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 3: And like I'm sure they don't.

533
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Speaker 4: The tunnel system.

534
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Speaker 3: I just don't think that he got to those in time,

535
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Speaker 3: like they might have been just like hanging out playing peanuckle.

536
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 3: And also the.

537
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Speaker 4: Exactly yelling at the front so that he can hear

538
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Speaker 4: in the.

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Speaker 3: And the staff can like get the one last blanket

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Speaker 3: and placed on top. So after the authorities discover the

541
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Speaker 3: wanted man in the aforementioned window box seat hidden beneath

542
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Speaker 3: the blankets. They also found the family was holed up

543
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Speaker 3: with a small cache of weapons, and I'm talking like

544
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Speaker 3: a three foot tall stack of German propaganda pamphlets. Oh yeah,

545
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 3: they're like a little cell of like pro Kaiser sentiment. So,

546
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Speaker 3: according to the New York Times quote, in addition to

547
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Speaker 3: a three foot stack of pro German pamphlets, the federal

548
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 3: agents found in the dining room a twelve gage automatic

549
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 3: pump gun with a large supply of shells. Handy on

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Speaker 3: the oak buffet were seven boxes of shells for the

551
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 3: thirty eight caliber revolver with which she threatened the invaders.

552
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 3: There was also an automatic rifle with a silencer attachment,

553
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 3: a large dagger, and other weapons. All were confiscated. Oh wow, Elizabeth,

554
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 3: they had like a Tommy gun with the sockey.

555
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 4: Yes, and it's like a sleeper cell.

556
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 3: Family don't play.

557
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Speaker 4: I guess they all get locked up now.

558
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 3: No, No, they did not. They're rich people, Elizabeth did.

559
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 3: They're like, how many lawyer fights do we want to

560
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 3: get into? They can get the boy dead to rights,

561
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 3: But mama is like, well she's protecting No.

562
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 4: Like pro German propaganda champhlets.

563
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 5: It's not They got all their German zines and their

564
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 5: German porn zines.

565
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 3: Weird leather porn. So, as you might imagine, the rest

566
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 3: of the former playboy of the Eastern Seaboy becomes national news. Meanwhile,

567
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 3: his race car driving brother is still at large. Remember

568
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 3: they are both draft dodged at the same time. Now,

569
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 3: when he gets asked about his big brother, Grover Cleveland

570
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 3: burg Doll tells authorities that they'd gone their separate ways

571
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 3: and that quote he saw his brother Irwin only once

572
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 3: and that was in Cincinnati six months ago. So his

573
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 3: brother Irwin would later be apprehended and jailed on his own.

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Speaker 3: These are not pacifists, No, no, they're not principled in

575
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 3: the least. Their principle is I don't want to go.

576
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 3: You can't make me. I like the Kaiser. So meanwhile,

577
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 3: Grover Cleveland burghdal he stood trial for his draft dodging.

578
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 3: He was tried in a military court martial because he

579
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 3: was technically a soldier who'd gone a wall and shocking

580
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 3: no one, he was found guilty of desertion and sentenced

581
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 3: to five years in prison. Yeah, However, before he could

582
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 3: be sent to prison, he cut a deal with the military.

583
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 4: What I didn't know you could do that.

584
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 3: Well, here's the deal he cut Elizabeth. He explained to

585
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 3: the military the officers that he had a huge cash

586
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 3: of gold that he'd buried in a secret location somewhere

587
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 3: near Hager'stown, Maryland, and if the army would let him

588
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 3: go to collect his buried treasure, he would hand it

589
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 3: over to help fund the war effort, and in return,

590
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 3: the army would shorten his prison sentence. The army officers

591
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 3: heard this deal, They're like, you got a deal. Yeah.

592
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 5: I guess they were desperate for I mean, they were

593
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 5: hawking war bonds at this point pretty much.

594
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this sounds like, you know, like hundreds of

595
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 3: thousands of dollars which would be to us for this.

596
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 3: So he gets released from the military prison.

597
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Speaker 5: He's like, I have to go by myself. This is

598
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 5: a very personal journey. This is my quest.

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00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 3: It's practically that bad. He's taken underguard two guards to

600
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 3: go dig up his buried treasure. But before the guards

601
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Speaker 3: take him to Hager's town, was like, yo, guys, I

602
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 3: need to stop off right quick at my mom's house,

603
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 3: I mean her castle. So is that cool? And like,

604
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 3: I don't know if he was like, yeah, I need

605
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 3: to get a pick and a shovel or whatever. Yeah,

606
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 3: ask my questions, like did you have like like a

607
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 3: crayon treasure map. We're a pot of gold under the

608
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 3: X whatever he said. It worked right because these two

609
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 3: like MP's are really there were sergeants. They took the

610
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 3: prisoner to his mom's house, and you remember how she

611
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 3: was last time the authorities showed up her house on

612
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,239
Speaker 3: the downs. Anyway, he arrives at his mom's castle with

613
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 3: his armed military police as his guards, and he's like, hey, mom,

614
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 3: me and the boys want to like get some meals.

615
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 3: And we're maybe like tomorrow or maybe later today, we're

616
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 3: gonna they're gonna take me to Maryland to go dig

617
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 3: up my secret bury treasure. So like, don't shoot him, Mom.

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00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 3: She's like, oh, I'm not. She puts her guns away

619
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 3: or whatever. Now why anyone thought this whole idea was

620
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 3: a good idea is beyond me reading about it. I'm

621
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 3: like they did what yeah?

622
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 4: Wow.

623
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 3: Like, for instance, he wasn't wearing a prison uniform. Instead,

624
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 3: they didn't want to call attention to themselves, so Grover

625
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 3: Cleveland Bergdall was given a uniform that's identical to the

626
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Speaker 3: ones worn by the two sergeants who are guarding him.

627
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 3: Not only that, Elizabeth, he's not handcuffed for the same

628
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 3: reason they call attention to him. So we're gonna have

629
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Speaker 3: him dressed just like us, not handcuff him. We're gonna

630
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 3: take him to his mom's castle.

631
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Speaker 5: I mean, it's one thing to be like, we don't

632
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 5: want to put him in the old prisoner stripes totally,

633
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 5: but we're gonna give.

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00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 3: You a sergeant's uniform. Yeah. So they go, and then

635
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 3: he talks to these guards once they're off base into

636
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 3: going to his mom's place, and they're like, yeah, totally,

637
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 3: let's go.

638
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 5: Do you think he said, I'll pay you off, like,

639
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 5: we'll have like money for you if you take me

640
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 5: over there.

641
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 3: I'll skip ahead to tell you they court marshaled these

642
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 3: two sergeants and they found them clean. They said that

643
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 3: there was nothing wrong, that they did everything according to

644
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 3: apparently military orders. To me, the whole trip is hanky,

645
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 3: yeah yeah, or it's an embarrassment. Your choice. I'm gonna

646
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 3: have to go with embarrassment in this case. Right now.

647
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 3: I should add. Some reports say that his pot of

648
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 3: gold was buried in the Appalachian Mountains in West Virginia,

649
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 3: which is not close to Hagerstown, Maryland like Gettysburg is

650
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 3: closer to that than West Virginia is. But whatever doesn't matter.

651
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 3: What does matter, Elizabeth? It's May nineteen twenty, So burg

652
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 3: Doll's like, hey, guys, before we go dig up my

653
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 3: buried pot of gold, how about we hit up a burlesque.

654
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 3: And the two Army sergeants are like, yeah, it's still

655
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 3: I love it. I love seeing that.

656
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 4: Count me in.

657
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 3: So after some light in frisky entertainment, the US Army esports.

658
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 5: And then one of them they walk out and one

659
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 5: of them has a feather bow on other.

660
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 3: One has a pasty on his face. So burg Doll

661
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 3: he takes them to his next arranged stop, which is like, hey,

662
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 3: let's go see my mom. So they go burlesque, then

663
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 3: they go to.

664
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 4: The Mass priorities.

665
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 3: And then when baby boy Burgdall in his two uniform

666
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 3: guard show up at his mother's house, she was like, oh,

667
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 3: I'll have the house staff serve the men breakfast, because

668
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 3: they apparently they showed up early enough for breakfast. Sure,

669
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 3: I don't know what burlesque you're seeing at six am

670
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 3: I overnight exactly. So then after breakfast, she has the

671
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 3: staff make them a big extravagant lunch, meanwater breakfast. After breakfast,

672
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 3: they eat a break big breakfast. They hang out a

673
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 3: while longer, they have a big lunch. After that, the

674
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 3: men all retire to the billiard's room in the castle

675
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 3: and they play a few games of pool. Meanwhile, the

676
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 3: purp not handcuff just kind of sneaks off. Oh my god,

677
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 3: what do you think happens next, Elizabeth?

678
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 4: The mom comes down into the pool room.

679
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 3: Wow, if you said the former daredevil makes a break

680
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 3: for it, you win today's grand no prize. Apparently, while

681
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 3: his US Army sergeant escorts are busy playing pool and

682
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 3: the mom's giving her feather boa like seven Vales dance

683
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 3: Grover Cleveland, burg Doll slips out of a window, hops

684
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 3: in a car with his chauffeur, mind you, and together

685
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 3: they speed off. Jeez. Yeah, this escape of Bergdoll launch

686
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 3: is a second nationwide man hunt for him because he

687
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 3: was gone for two years before. She's like, oh, no,

688
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 3: darn it, this is to be bad. So it turns

689
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 3: out the chauffeur driven car didn't like go you know,

690
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 3: drifting around the country. Instead, he didn't stop speeding until

691
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 3: they got to the Canadian border.

692
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 4: Wow.

693
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 3: From there, Bergdahll arranged passage on a ship to Europe

694
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 3: and he fled to Germany. That's where Grover Cleveland Burgdhal

695
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 3: linked up with his wife, who was the daughter of

696
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 3: the gardener at his mom's castle. Stop why it sent

697
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 3: her ahead.

698
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 4: And apparently I'm just learning of this now.

699
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 3: The US military in the State Department missed that his

700
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 3: wife was clearing customs and going to Germany.

701
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 4: And they're like, no, she's probably married the daughter of

702
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 4: the gardener.

703
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then sent her to Germany ahead of him,

704
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 3: and then made his escape and then she met up

705
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 3: with her. So at this point he finds safe refuge

706
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 3: in a town of Aberbach now where he resides in

707
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 3: a lap of luxury at a hotel owned by his

708
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: uncle or his cousin. I found differing reports so his

709
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 3: family newspaper accounts, you know, they are a little unreliable

710
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 3: from the nineteen early nineteen hundreds. Regardless, either way, how

711
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 3: this scion of wealth and privilege, he's living it up

712
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 3: in Germany while the Allies are waging war against the

713
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 3: Kaiser in France. However, being him, can't stay still he

714
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 3: just loves speed, Elizabeth, so he keeps popping back to

715
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 3: the United States for secret tricks.

716
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 4: Are you kidding me?

717
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 3: Soon enough, there are scattered reports from people who spotted

718
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 3: berg Doll all across the US, even down in Mexico.

719
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 3: He just back in Mexico. He's getting this point, say,

720
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 3: the Germans love Mexico. I think it's the upp I

721
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 3: like the Accordion. You like the Accordian. I like a

722
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 3: good who.

723
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 4: We are Sympetico.

724
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 3: So the colossal failure to take Bergdal to prison and

725
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 3: the whole hey help me dig up my buried treasure bill,

726
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 3: It makes it into the newspapers of the day, which

727
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 3: causes a congressional investigation into what happened? How could you

728
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 3: mess up this badly? And he escapes to Germany. The

729
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 3: American public, they grow angry at this symbol of draft

730
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 3: evasion while all these young men are going to die,

731
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 3: and even though the war is at this point now

732
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 3: over in nineteen twelve, veterans back home they despise berg

733
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 3: Doll not just for being a coward afraid to do

734
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 3: his part in the war, but they also come to

735
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 3: think of him as a trader. This is when he

736
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 3: becomes known as the most hated man in America.

737
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah.

738
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 3: In fact, American soldiers still stationed in Europe after the

739
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 3: war decided to make it their private mission to go

740
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 3: capture burg Doll now bring him back to the US

741
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 3: to stand trial. The first attempt goes down in nineteen

742
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 3: twenty one, and true to his nature, it's a daredevil affair. Elizabeth,

743
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 3: close your eyes.

744
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 4: My eyes are closed.

745
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 3: I want you to picture it. It's January twenty sixth,

746
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 3: nineteen twenty one. You are waiting for a train at

747
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 3: the station in Aberbach, Germany. You are here in Germany,

748
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 3: a couple of years after the end of what everyone

749
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 3: is calling the Great War, what you are now calling

750
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 3: the Great Reset, because you've come to Germany to shake

751
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 3: off the ugliness of the war by adopting some dogs

752
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 3: that have no safe place to call their home. If

753
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 3: you can rescue them from the countryside and take them

754
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 3: back with you to Paris, you feel like you have

755
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 3: done something good to offset the many ugly realities of

756
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 3: this war. Anyway, you're waiting for a train and it's

757
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 3: about to arrive. Unbeknownst to you, there is also an

758
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 3: internationally wanted criminal also at the station. Only he is

759
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 3: enough to know good or doing any suspicious behavior, and

760
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 3: a bad wig and a phony mustache. Quite the contrary.

761
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 3: At the moment, Grover Cleveland Bergdal is in a car

762
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 3: with his friend and bodyguard along with a young newlywed couple.

763
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,479
Speaker 3: The two men have agreed to drive to the train

764
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 3: station so they can meet their wedding party. Finally, the

765
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 3: train arrives, A long whistle announces its approach. The train

766
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 3: pulls into the station and slows to a stop. You

767
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,479
Speaker 3: are growing ever more excited now that the last train

768
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 3: you need for your journey has arrived. Meanwhile, the internationally

769
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 3: wanted man waits in the car with his bodyguard while

770
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 3: the newlywed couple walks over to the platform to meet

771
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 3: the disembarking passengers. The newlywed couple catches your eye because

772
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 3: of the joyous meeting between them and their wedding party

773
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 3: that's just arrived. They're all smiles and joyful tears. You

774
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 3: love to see people so happy. It makes you happy.

775
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 3: You watch the couple in their wedding party guests as

776
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 3: they make their way back to the waiting car, and

777
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 3: that's when you hear it. The loud purring engine of

778
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,959
Speaker 3: a car speeding toward them. You can count six men

779
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 3: huddled inside the approaching car. You've seen trouble before, and

780
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 3: that's what it looks like. Your instincts are sound. It

781
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 3: is trouble. The newlyweds are busy climbing back into the

782
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 3: waiting car with the driver notices what you just saw,

783
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,919
Speaker 3: the car with the six men racing towards him. He

784
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 3: does what most bodyguards in his position to do. He

785
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 3: slips the key back into the ignition as fast as

786
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 3: you can. It starts the car. However, you spy the

787
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 3: car racing at him as it slams on its brakes,

788
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 3: and the six men all hop out like American cops

789
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 3: used to hitting in gunfights withootlegging racketeers back in Chicago.

790
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 3: The six men surround the vehicle. One of the men,

791
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 3: clearly an American soldier based on his haircut and how

792
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 3: he's dressed, draws a pistol and aims it into the vehicle.

793
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 3: He points the gun at the head of the man

794
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 3: riding in the passenger seat. He orders the driver to

795
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 3: turn off the car's ignition as his eyes shift to

796
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 3: the driver to see if he's complying. You see the

797
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 3: passenger swat the gun from his head. Now in German.

798
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 3: He orders the driver to drive off, which is exactly

799
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 3: what he does. The driver punches it, the car speeds off.

800
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 3: The men surrounding the car leap out of the way.

801
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 3: The gunman, who aimed his pistol at the head of

802
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 3: the passenger, squeezes off a few rounds of the fleeing car.

803
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 3: He looks to be aiming at the car tires. You

804
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 3: wonder if that ever works outside of the movies. In

805
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 3: this case, it does not. He misses the car tires,

806
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 3: but he does put one bullet into the car's passenger compartment,

807
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 3: and the bullet strikes the bride. You gasp, not it's

808
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 3: a bride, you think, not on her special day. But

809
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 3: she's fine, It's only a flesh woman. She's been shot

810
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 3: in her hand. Meanwhile, the six men all load back

811
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 3: up into their car and they give Chase what a

812
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 3: totally unexpected and thrilling moment to happen At a German

813
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 3: train station in the middle of nowhere, you notice one

814
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 3: of the train goers runs towards the car before it

815
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 3: gets up to speed. He leaps and hops onto the

816
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 3: car's running board. Standing alongside the car, the man is

817
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 3: able to reach into the open window and yank the

818
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 3: emergency brake. The car's break engages and it screeches to

819
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 3: a heart. Turns out that brave young man is the

820
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 3: cousin of the internationally wanted man. You don't know this,

821
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 3: but you'll learn it later on once the gossip and

822
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 3: stories are getting shared by eyewitnesses. At the moment, you

823
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 3: have a new concern. The six men in the car

824
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 3: that had its emergency break yanked are now being surrounded

825
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 3: by an angry mob of Germans. From their accents and

826
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 3: haircuts and clothing, you determine the two of the men

827
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 3: are a man Americans and the other four are Germans.

828
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: The crowd figures this out too. The angry mob begins

829
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,760
Speaker 3: to shout insults at the six men, saving their hottest

830
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 3: anger for the two American servicemen. They begin to beat

831
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 3: the men with fists and kick them both. You and

832
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 3: the two Americans are happy to see the local German

833
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 3: police arrive just in time to save the two men

834
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 3: from the anger of the German mob. Still apparently a

835
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 3: bit heated about losing the World War.

836
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, but.

837
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 3: There you go, Elizabethankness. You came to Aberbach to save

838
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 3: some popular and you leave with the story about American

839
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 3: dough boys who almost lost their lives in Germany to

840
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 3: an angry mob of bitter losers. So the story is

841
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 3: two US sergeants, Carl Naff and Franz Zimmer, who were

842
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 3: stationed at a nearby American headquarters for the occupying US

843
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 3: Expeditionary Force. They left their base and they attempted to

844
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 3: enlist four German men to help them kidnap Bergdal bring

845
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 3: him back to Allied controlled territories or Bergdal could face

846
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 3: just for his draft dodging and traitorous acts such as

847
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 3: his offer to join the Kaiser's Air Force, because remember

848
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 3: he's a flyboy, and he's like, I can bomb Americans,

849
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 3: give me a Plane's like, I don't trust you with

850
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 3: my plans. But when their abduction fails and a German

851
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 3: bride gets shot in the hand, it causes this major

852
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 3: international incident. And you see that after that failed attempt

853
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 3: to capture Grover Cleveland berg Doll that you witness fail,

854
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 3: the major result is that the American sergeants are arrested

855
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 3: by German authorities for attempt at kidnapping, which is totally legit,

856
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 3: which then leads to the international row and the two

857
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 3: American servicemen had to be negotiated over like a pair

858
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 3: of prize spies.

859
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 4: Oh wow.

860
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 3: Eventually they are released thanks to the US government and

861
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 3: their German counterparts. Now, Elizabeth, as the old saying goes,

862
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 3: when you fail once, what are you supposed to do?

863
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 4: Fail again?

864
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 3: That's right, try try again, And that's exactly what US

865
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 3: soldiers did. After these messages, we'll hear about the second

866
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 3: extraordinary rendition of Grover Cleveland Burgdal. And we're back, Elizabeth,

867
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 3: we are back. So you ready to hear about this

868
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 3: second attempt to capture Burber Cleveland Bergdal and bring him

869
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 3: back to the US. Yes, please, all right. In August

870
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 3: of nineteen twenty three, Just two years later, Corliss Hoven Griffiths,

871
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 3: that's with an S, not a thh. Corliss, Corliss Hoven, Griffiths.

872
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 4: Cordless Hoven Griffish.

873
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 3: Let a secret raid into Germany backed by a team

874
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 3: of four men, Roger Sperber, John Nielsen, Faus Gagerian and

875
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 3: Carl Schmidt.

876
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 4: You're making this stuff, No I'm not.

877
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 3: And with names like that. I hope at least one

878
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 3: of them spoke German. So unlike the first attempt, the

879
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 3: second attempt was more straightforward, right to the point, and

880
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 3: rather than attempt some public kidnapping at a busy German

881
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 3: train station, this second crew they opted to grab Bergdahl

882
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 3: at his hotel in Aberbach. And better than that, they

883
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 3: planned to grab him from his hotel room, not even

884
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 3: like where to get him in the lobby right totally.

885
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 3: The team they meet up in Paris and they plan

886
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 3: their extraction. They would grab Bergdahl from the hotel, snatch

887
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 3: him up, toss him in the trunk of a fast car,

888
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 3: and then race over the German border get back to Paris.

889
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 3: Then they'd hand him over to US officials for his

890
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 3: rendition home to stand trial. Eazyps right now. According to

891
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 3: reporting at the time, the raid was organized and run

892
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 3: by a mystery man named Count Romanoff. It was alleged

893
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 3: that he was an agent of the American Secret Service,

894
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 3: and as The New York Times reported, he was working

895
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 3: with Victor Nielsen and Lieutenant G. H. Griffith with a

896
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 3: thh who were then later they're determined to be John

897
00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 3: Nielsen and cordless Griffith with a s out at thh Anyway,

898
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 3: it's not really totally matter. But the plan was Count

899
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 3: Romanov was the wheelman and he would wait in the

900
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,720
Speaker 3: car outside the hotel. He would act as the lookout.

901
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,439
Speaker 3: Once he spied Bergdahl returned to the hotel, he would

902
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 3: signal the men hidden inside. They would sneak into the

903
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 3: hotel room so that way they would know when to

904
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 3: expect him, and once he set foot in his hotel room,

905
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 3: they grab him. And then that's where the two of

906
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 3: the men, Carl Schmidt and Roger Sperber, would be waiting.

907
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 4: I wish I knew the real identity of Count Romanov.

908
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 3: Totally same, right, So the trouble was Bergdahl was somewhat

909
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 3: onto them and had begun to suspect he was being

910
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 3: tailed by American agents, so he started to stay away

911
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 3: from it. He didn't think that exactly you got Count Romanov,

912
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 3: Well you.

913
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 4: Just like you almost got grabbed in a train station.

914
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, but this also two years later, and he said,

915
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 3: you know, he has to be suspicious, but I mean

916
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 3: I think that they basically tip their hand, like just

917
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 3: staring at him from across the cafe across the like plaza. Anyway,

918
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 3: at this point he starts staying in a village not

919
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 3: too far away that's like just his family. So if

920
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 3: you came in, everybody would know like one of those.

921
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 3: And so he would only come to the hotel, which

922
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 3: is also owned by his family, in the daytime to

923
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 3: visit his uncle cousin whoever. This goes on for months,

924
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 3: so Count Romanov is out there every night acting as

925
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 3: the lookout, waiting in the car for any side of Bergdal.

926
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 3: I'm like, did he at least think to get a

927
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 3: cab because otherwise any other.

928
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 5: Car and it's like a packard. It's like totally an American.

929
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 3: Big American car. Finally, one night, around midnight, Count Romanov

930
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 3: spots Grover Cleveland Bergdll and when he's like showing up

931
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 3: that the hotel in Aberbach and it's so late at night,

932
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,720
Speaker 3: it's like around midnight. Clearly he intends to spend the night.

933
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 3: He not there to see his uncle slash cousin. So

934
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 3: Count Romanov he gives the signal to his men hidden

935
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 3: inside the hotel. I'm like to believe it was not

936
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 3: just I hit the car horn, but he just leans

937
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 3: on it. So they wait in Bergdahl's hotel room. He

938
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 3: eventually goes to his room intending to bed down for

939
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 3: the night, only these two soldiers leap out and surprise him. Now,

940
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 3: remember how I described the weapons that his mother kept

941
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 3: in their home back in Philadelphia. No, well, I guess

942
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 3: it was a family trade, Elizabeth, because Grover also kept

943
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 3: some weapons on him. So when the soldiers jump out

944
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 3: to surprise him, he gets in a fight with them.

945
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 3: They just start scuffling, right. Burndall is desperate not to

946
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 3: be caught, so he's fighting dirty. In fact, for one instance,

947
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 3: he bites off Roger Sperber's thumb, his thumb, just like

948
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 3: right down through the meat.

949
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 4: And that's a lot of tendon and bone.

950
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's a lot of biting power in a

951
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 3: male jaw. I get I've been doing something, you know. No,

952
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 3: I have all those surgery sites that I follow on Instagram,

953
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 3: and they they've been having a bunch of stuff recently

954
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 3: that I've not been related to the bite. And I

955
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 3: was like, wow, the human the human male bite is

956
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 3: really strong, Like you could you can tear open like

957
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 3: a like a throat. No, I've never bitten anybody.

958
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 4: Have you anyone's throat off.

959
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 3: No, never like throats and thumbs where they are a

960
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 3: little nibbling about.

961
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 4: A big toe. Have they ever bitten off another man's

962
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 4: big toe once? But I've questioning uncomfortable.

963
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 3: Yes it is, but I've never been as desperate as

964
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 3: Grover Cleveland Bergdal. So it's easy for me to say

965
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 3: that standing over here. But that's not all Elizabeth. At

966
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 3: one point, Bergdal he manages to get to a revolver

967
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 3: and that he just had out on a table, and

968
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 3: what's he do? He grabs it starts blasting. He's like, yeah,

969
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 3: like Danny DeVito, and then started blasting right so, right

970
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 3: there in the darkened hotel room, he's setting off shots.

971
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 3: Bergdhal shoots both men. H it was bad, Elizabeth. He

972
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 3: shot Roger Sperber and he also shot Carl Schmidt. And

973
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 3: this was a one percent incident.

974
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 4: This is like you're doing a lot of one percent.

975
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 3: Sorry, it's not graphic. Schmid did not make it out

976
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 3: of the hotel room. I'll leave it at that.

977
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 4: Meanwhile, we's been lost their lives.

978
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 3: With both World War One veterans down for the count

979
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 3: one out permanently, Bergdahl tries to flee the hotel. However,

980
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 3: there are two more American veterans waiting for him downstairs.

981
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 3: They managed to overtake Bergdhal. They get him to the

982
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 3: car where Count Romanof is waiting, and they of them

983
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 3: into the car and they now speed off.

984
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 4: And just leave their fallen. I thought you never leave

985
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 4: a man behind.

986
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 3: Well, he wasn't moving fast enough at that point. But

987
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 3: the guy with the not thumb is like moaning, like

988
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 3: you look, what did to me. It's like all of

989
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 3: a sudden, like yeah, it's bad. By this point, the

990
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 3: hotel staff phones the local police, so they come in,

991
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 3: lights flashing, sirens going. Now we have a high speed

992
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 3: pursuit in the German countryside with the Americans and Count

993
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 3: Romanov racing for the border, with the German police chasing

994
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 3: them on motorcycles. Try as they might, the American vets

995
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 3: and Count Romanov were unable to make it to the

996
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 3: French German border before they're overtaken. The men are seized

997
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 3: and they're arrested and the car is searched. The German

998
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 3: police discovered that the car contains rifles, revolvers, ropes, numerous

999
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:52,720
Speaker 3: bottles of chloroform. So now the Americans and count Romanov.

1000
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 3: They don't really need to tell their side of the story.

1001
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 3: It's all right there. Yeah, And they get arrested and

1002
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 3: returned to Aberbach and they're jailed. So so oh the irony, Elizabeth,

1003
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 3: you go there to capture a draft dodger and bring

1004
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 3: him back to justice, and stead you get captured and

1005
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 3: brought to face justice completely. So the men they're tried,

1006
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 3: convicted and sentenced to time behind bars in a German prison.

1007
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 3: Oh boy, still kidnapping. So I guess it's not like oh,

1008
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 3: these is you know, war games. So however, the one

1009
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 3: American veteran, Griffiths, who he ends up getting portrayed as

1010
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 3: a hero and the press back in the States, so

1011
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 3: people get so heated that this like honored American soldier

1012
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 3: is getting jailed for what they see is doing his

1013
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 3: duty to bring a trader back to face justice. At home,

1014
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,959
Speaker 3: there are petitions for his release and they circulate around

1015
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 3: the country. This petition is signed by so many people.

1016
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 3: I read accounts that the petition was twenty three miles long.

1017
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 3: What I didn't know you could ever measure a petition

1018
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 3: in miles.

1019
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 4: Twenty three miles.

1020
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 3: Had two million signatures, of different Americans. Wow, yeah, I

1021
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 3: don't know if the signatures are bigger.

1022
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 4: Back that's an exaggeration.

1023
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 3: I think so too. But that's where I saw a reported.

1024
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 5: Two hundred million signed it. Two thousand billion people.

1025
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 3: Signed it, all the Americans, everyone.

1026
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 4: And had ever been existing throughout history.

1027
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 3: So at this point you have to understand emotions were

1028
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 3: running high. For instance, when there was a congressional hearing

1029
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 3: about how Bergdhal had escaped to Germany, one of Bergdal's

1030
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 3: brothers he was brought in and questioned on the floor

1031
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 3: of Congress. One congressman got so mad at his rich

1032
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 3: boy answers that the New York Times reported that quote

1033
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 3: he nearly drew a pistol on the witness. Imagine that. Yes. So,

1034
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 3: my point is that the twenty three mile long petition

1035
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 3: was enough to express the will and the emotion of

1036
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 3: the people and forced the US government to act. After

1037
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 3: much negotiation, the imprisoned soldier was released by the German

1038
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 3: authorities and returned to the US. Meanwhile, Bergdhal stayed put

1039
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 3: in Germany. A few years later he was to go

1040
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 3: to a sanitarium because by then the Germans had determined, oh,

1041
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 3: he's a pain and so they sent him there. And

1042
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 3: by the way, at the sanitarium, this is where he

1043
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 3: meets his next wife.

1044
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 4: Oh, the first one.

1045
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 3: I just didn't didn't work out apparently. I guess this

1046
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,439
Speaker 3: second wife was a productive pairing because the two had

1047
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 3: five children together. Okay, so they really hit it off.

1048
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 3: The interesting thing is that despite all the international intrigue

1049
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 3: and attempts to bring him back to the US, that

1050
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 3: didn't stop him from coming back to the US on

1051
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 3: his own.

1052
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 4: What is well, he needs to be locked up for

1053
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 4: his own right.

1054
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 3: Even the Germans knew it. Yeah. In nineteen twenty nine,

1055
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 3: when the stock market crash, Bergdhal snuck back into the

1056
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 3: US to grab some spending money, some getting around paper money.

1057
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,240
Speaker 3: So remember his pot of gold? Oh yeah, yeah, turns

1058
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 3: out that part was true.

1059
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 4: You're kidding.

1060
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,439
Speaker 3: Yes, there really was a buried treasure. Only it wasn't

1061
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 3: hidden in the Appalachian Mountains in West Virginia. It wasn't

1062
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 3: outside the Hagerstown area of Maryland. The buried treasure was

1063
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 3: hidden at his mother's house.

1064
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 4: Of course.

1065
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 3: It was aka the family castle right there in the

1066
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 3: suburb of Philly. It was hidden in a closet in

1067
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 3: the house secreted away behind some concrete. Once he grabbed

1068
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 3: his hidden loot, he stayed in the US for a while.

1069
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 3: There's some debate about how long he stayed and when

1070
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 3: he returned to Germany, but according to him, he made

1071
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 3: another trip back to the US in nineteen thirty three,

1072
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 3: and then again in nineteen thirty five. And meanwhile, between

1073
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 3: those two trips, in nineteen thirty four, he asked recently

1074
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 3: elected President Franklin Dono Roosevelt for a pardon. He's like, hey,

1075
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 3: you're in your first term. You mind hook him brother

1076
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 3: up before people get mad?

1077
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 4: Are you kidding?

1078
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 3: Sadly, his pardon was summarily denied. Yeah, in nineteen thirty five.

1079
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 3: The next year, his wife came and asked for a

1080
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 3: pardon on his behalf, like maybe we need a feminine touch.

1081
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 3: I can't tell if they came back together in thirty

1082
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 3: five or if it was separate trips, but either way, again,

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Speaker 3: his request for a pardon was denied.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: In nineteen thirty eight, he could read the writing on

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Speaker 3: the wall and hear the drums of war beginning to

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Speaker 3: beat in Germany. By now, he's in his forties, He's

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Speaker 3: not interested in living through another world war, especially inside

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Speaker 3: Nazi Germany. He may have been cool with the Kaiser,

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Speaker 3: but he was definitely not down with har Hitler. So

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Speaker 3: he attempts to flee back to the US in the

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Speaker 3: spring of thirty nine. It's like no spring time for

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Speaker 3: Hitler for me. So he hoped that the anger about

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Speaker 3: his draft dodging had cooled off by them, like y'all

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Speaker 3: still mad?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, The pro German sentence was an all time high, right.

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Speaker 3: So the Americans, you know, they were largely though, in

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Speaker 3: an isolationist mood in nineteen thirty nine. So he was

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Speaker 3: hoping that they would see that he was right to

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Speaker 3: not want to go fight in the first of the

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Speaker 3: another bloody European war, and that they would forgive him

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Speaker 3: and welcome him home. And you'd be like, oh, you

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00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 3: were so wise, your sagacity, but so Grover Cleveland Bergdll.

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Speaker 3: He announces publicly that he plans to, as The New

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Speaker 3: York Times reported, returned to the United States and surrender

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Speaker 3: to military authorities and then throw himself on their ability

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Speaker 3: to forgive. Now is the New York Times reporting makes

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Speaker 3: clear berg Doll's read of mood of the Americans seemed

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00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 3: to be sound because as The Times reported quote. Some

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Speaker 3: people even opined that his only crime was having the

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00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 3: foresight to realize that World War One would not be

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Speaker 3: a war to end all wars quote. Any coward can

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Speaker 3: fall into a draft line and march off to a

1114
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Speaker 3: foreign slaughter, two women wrote to the Milwaukee Journal in April.

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Speaker 3: Only a real hero can resist and fight against mob hysteria,

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00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 3: as did Burgdall. Anyone can follow the wild mob, but

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Speaker 3: few have the grit and real patriotism to oppose the

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Speaker 3: bloodthirsty mob. The revision is in this But it's interesting

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Speaker 3: because Milwaukee Journal so big german part of is Milwaukee

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Speaker 3: in the nineteen thirty so I'm thinking they might not

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Speaker 3: have been announcing that they were kind of a little

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Speaker 3: bit u on the side of the kaiserthetic. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 3: it's interesting. In the spring of thirty nine, Burgdall he

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00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 3: bounds the ship headed back to the US as new

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00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 3: circulates of his imminent return, and then his wife and

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Speaker 3: five children had already emigrated back to the States, and

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00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 3: Bergdahl was claiming that, you know, I'm broke, I'm homesick,

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Speaker 3: and like any reasonable person, wanted to get the hell

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Speaker 3: out of Nazi Germany. So he believes America will take

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Speaker 3: pity on him and accept him home Instead. A fight

1131
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 3: breaks out in Congress one Congressman Forrest Harness. He attempted

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00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 3: to pass new legislation. They wanted to make a new

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00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 3: law to keep this dude from the country. They wanted

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Speaker 3: to prohibit Bergdall from entering the United States even as

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00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,240
Speaker 3: a refugee, since he was still technically a draft dodger

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00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 3: and a trader. Legislation did not pass. Instead, when his ship,

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00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 3: the SS Bremen, came into New York Harbor, this middle

1138
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 3: aged draft dodger was arrested aboard the ship before he

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00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 3: set foot in America. As in New York Times reported,

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Speaker 3: when the Bremen arrived in New York on the afternoon

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Speaker 3: of May twenty fifth, nineteen thirty nine, a Coastguard cutter

1142
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 3: met the vessel before it docked. A group of immigration

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00:55:55,719 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 3: officials came aboard and found Nash loitering in the smoking lounge.

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Speaker 3: When asked for his identification, the man replied, I have

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00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 3: no passport. I am Bergdahll. So that Elizabeth is how

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00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 3: Grover Cleveland Burgdall finally returned to the US to face

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00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 3: justice for his crimes in World War One. He gets tried, convicted,

1148
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Speaker 3: and sentenced to spend four years at the Federal Prison

1149
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 3: of Fort Leavenworth in Kansas, which is like the early supermax.

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Speaker 3: So there he stayed until nineteen forty four. And get this, Elizabeth,

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Speaker 3: when he was released in forty four, the US to

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00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 3: government decided to return eighty percent of the property that

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00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 3: they had confiscated under the Harding administration way back in

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00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,479
Speaker 3: nineteen twenty. So now he's sitting on a fortune again.

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Speaker 4: Sure.

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Speaker 3: Interesting side note, As I told you earlier, his brother

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00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 3: Irwin was tried, convicted and sentence for draft division. But

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00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 3: also Bergdahl's eldest son, Alfred, was also found guilty of

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00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 3: draft division in nineteen fifty for skipping out on World

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00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 3: War Two, and he was also sentenced to five years

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00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 3: in prison. The whole family's a bunch of cowards and traders, right,

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Speaker 3: of course, I say this knowing full well and good.

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Speaker 3: If I was drafted and I did not support the

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00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:09,760
Speaker 3: war I was sent to fight, I would have also

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00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 3: skipped out and dodged the draft. But at least I

1166
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 3: would have done it on principles, that's the thing, and

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00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 3: not just because I'm a rich prick and have better

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00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 3: things to do.

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Speaker 4: Is the thing.

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Speaker 5: That's the thing that it depends on the on the

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00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 5: principle of it. That's you know, are you a conscientious objector?

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00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a muhammed.

1173
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 4: That statement. You think about it too? Is it?

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Speaker 5: Every almost every small town I've ever been in in

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00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 5: this country has a war memorial with names from World

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Speaker 5: War One? And it's like that, it's so far reaching,

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Speaker 5: you know, the loss of it all. And then this

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00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 5: cat like he's just a rich goofball. He's not doing

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00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 5: it on a principal stance, you know, he's a sympathizer.

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Speaker 3: Elizabethous.

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Speaker 4: That's my take away.

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Speaker 3: That's good. It's not particularly rediculous, but it's good.

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00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:01,919
Speaker 4: I'm ridiculous.

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00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 3: My ridiculous takeaway here is nobody asks the Grover Cleveland

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00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken the president yet Dodger in the

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00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 3: Civil War paid to have his family paid to have

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Speaker 3: him not.

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Speaker 4: Go to waridding.

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Speaker 3: So it's just ironic that. Yeah, And there's a there

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Speaker 3: was a number of presidents that was true of yah

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00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 3: for the Civil War. They all skipped out.

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Speaker 4: That's true for a lot. If you had any kind

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Speaker 4: of cash at all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you in the mood for a talk back?

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Speaker 3: Washed this all down?

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Speaker 4: You be.

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Speaker 3: Oh god, I went.

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Speaker 6: From New Zealand. It's not I have been really enjoying

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Speaker 6: your show for a long time. It's Christmas stead here

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Speaker 6: and I've just finished making winter suit. Go on, Ovan,

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Speaker 6: That noises my interune Honey who just liked both men

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Speaker 6: think about honey? Of course she does.

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Speaker 3: I loved that. That's awesome.

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Speaker 3: I felt like I was there with the Dan and

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you have a really competent intern to help

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Speaker 5: that's true.

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Speaker 3: Merry Christmas. And uh what is it? Uh that sounds

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Speaker 3: like Orthodox Merry Christmas in the twelve days of Christmas?

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Speaker 3: Aren't those all about to be? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Anyway, what is it April? Now?

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