WEBVTT - Conversations About War and Women

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<v Speaker 1>Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No

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<v Speaker 1>Sealers Podcast with your host. Now, fuck that with your

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<v Speaker 1>low glasses, Malone.

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<v Speaker 2>Just the obvious nature of you know, the tail.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>What Oh you're saying, what happened the story that that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, there's no real way to work around it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So we did a live stream, Tony, and the live

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<v Speaker 1>stream what we're recording now right, this is the audio

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<v Speaker 1>so he can see you, you can you know, so

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<v Speaker 1>you can see you, so you know your finish.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna get a monitor. S has to look at mind.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna get a monitor for them. He can see

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<v Speaker 3>so you can see him over there.

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<v Speaker 2>You picked a good time to come before the monitor

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<v Speaker 2>got put up.

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<v Speaker 1>So we did a live stream and it was based

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<v Speaker 1>off a conversation I was having with one of my

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<v Speaker 1>young homies, my my little brother a d He has

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<v Speaker 1>a stream, a live stream called the Community with my

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<v Speaker 1>homeboy pun and we were having a conversation about what

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<v Speaker 1>was going on with Dirt. Dirk got arrested for murder

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<v Speaker 1>for hire. Dirk was a rapper in Chicago, you know exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was saying that the beef Dirk and young Boy.

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<v Speaker 3>Their cruise started over a girl.

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<v Speaker 1>They were sleeping with the same girls, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some happened somewhere along the line. They got loos and

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<v Speaker 1>people start talking crazy and everybody's cruise. People around the

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<v Speaker 1>cruise start talking crazy. So now it's King Von who

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<v Speaker 1>was part of Dirk's cruise. Was Quan Toronto was a

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<v Speaker 1>part of Young with They were all cool at first,

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<v Speaker 1>and they start are talking crazy to each other, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>And they go to Atlanta and the Chicago brothers go

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<v Speaker 3>to Atlanta, ron and they get into a confrontation with

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<v Speaker 3>Rondos his life. Yes, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Quando Rondo you know, year a year or two later,

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<v Speaker 1>comes to California to do some business and his transportation

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<v Speaker 1>that he's riding in through to do the business within

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<v Speaker 1>the city. They near Century City. The whole truck get shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Were fully automatic weapons, okay. And that's the charge that

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<v Speaker 1>Dirk is, you know, being in dice that he organized

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<v Speaker 1>that he economically financed that that happened. Okay, So they

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<v Speaker 1>got supposed to be allegedly is the shooters and have

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<v Speaker 1>him for murder for hire. He was a d My

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<v Speaker 1>little brother was telling me that was a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>go through, you know, over a girl, and I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not really over the girl, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>It's really over the stuff people say around the girl.

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<v Speaker 1>We start having a conversation and I was saying, like,

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<v Speaker 1>if if we're together, you, if somebody sleeps with you

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<v Speaker 1>and they know I exist, they know me, No, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to be my friend. If they know me

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<v Speaker 1>and they know we're together and they sleep with you,

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<v Speaker 1>not only are you disrespecting me, they're disrespecting me right.

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<v Speaker 3>And I believe in the universe where.

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<v Speaker 1>If people disrespect you purposely, they will keep doing it right,

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<v Speaker 1>So the harmonious thing to do is to erase you

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<v Speaker 1>off the planet. Okay, not the vengeful thing, because vengeance

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<v Speaker 1>would be that I'm doing it because you did this.

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<v Speaker 1>The harmonious thing is, in my mind, is you will

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<v Speaker 1>keep disrespecting me because you should have respect for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't did anything to you for you to disrespect

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<v Speaker 1>me the hormone. The justice thing would be to erase

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<v Speaker 1>you off this planet, so you can't keep deflating who

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<v Speaker 1>I am every day by taking advantage of whoever whatever

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<v Speaker 1>goodness you think lies inside of me. And that's the

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<v Speaker 1>difference between vengeance and street justice, right, because you have

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<v Speaker 1>regular societal justice where everybody agrees on laws, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they have prisons and courts and juries and prisons and

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<v Speaker 1>jails to help them issue out that level of harmony

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<v Speaker 1>through justice. Well, in the streets there's the same space.

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<v Speaker 1>And we were talking about Dirk situation and saying it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was more.

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<v Speaker 1>You started to pursue it differently, like there is a

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<v Speaker 1>level of street justice that should happen, but street justice

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<v Speaker 1>again is still as harmonious as anything else. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>when you go to a real courthouse and instead of

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<v Speaker 1>you like R.

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<v Speaker 3>Kelly or Puff right.

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<v Speaker 1>Where instead of them being held accountable, like Puff should

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<v Speaker 1>be held accountable for combing his old lady here in

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<v Speaker 1>the hotel lobby and da da da, and that should

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<v Speaker 1>be like if they have a federal assault charge or

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<v Speaker 1>the solicitation of prostitution, those are all fair charges, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>possession of drugs, possession of guns, those are fair charges

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<v Speaker 1>based off of evidence versus them railroading him with a

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<v Speaker 1>rico where it's a racketeering charge for organization and there's

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<v Speaker 1>only one person being charge, so that would be a

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<v Speaker 1>one person organization.

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<v Speaker 3>Same for R.

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly, where instead of him just being charged for child

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<v Speaker 1>pornography because if you sleep with a girl under the

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<v Speaker 1>age of sixteen on a camera, you know, it don't matter,

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<v Speaker 1>she can't consent. It's child for not even federally, which

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<v Speaker 1>carries seven years and other stuff which R Kelly should

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<v Speaker 1>be in prison eight to twelve years fee me. But

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<v Speaker 1>because you allow white folks to carry out vengeance against

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<v Speaker 1>a nasty thing that they have against brothers in this

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<v Speaker 1>country since they was buying them by the dozens. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>in Virginia, you have people mistreating and you have a

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<v Speaker 1>like a like a trail of vengeance that's happening where

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<v Speaker 1>it's all mistreatment.

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<v Speaker 3>So instead of R.

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly getting the eight to twelve years that he deserves

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<v Speaker 1>based off the crime, he gets more time than Sammy

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<v Speaker 1>the boy Girvano has for murdering you know, nineteen people.

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<v Speaker 3>He almost has.

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<v Speaker 1>Forty years instead of R Kelly, you know, getting eight

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<v Speaker 1>to fifteen years for you know, having a consistent history

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<v Speaker 1>of soliciting prostitution and.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, using drugs or possessing.

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<v Speaker 1>Drugs or having guns with serial numbers scratched off, which

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<v Speaker 1>carries ten years federally or any that stuff, so that

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<v Speaker 1>eight to fifteen years that he should be facing, he's

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<v Speaker 1>facing life. That's to me, white vengeance or systemic vengeance,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like we still can get these niggas.

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<v Speaker 3>When we can.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was just saying to me and Pete like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well that sucker if you do that over your girl,

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<v Speaker 1>because a girl gonna be a whole and you shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be mad at no man. I'm like, well, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be upset at the man for what old lady is.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be upset at the man for disrespecting me knowing

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<v Speaker 1>that this is my lady. And he was saying like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you don't you disrespect that given his earn.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, that's street, that's not real. Like you should

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<v Speaker 1>respect every man even before they've earned it. You should

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<v Speaker 1>only disrespect the man that you've lost respect for. Ye

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<v Speaker 1>But if you disrespect the man that immediately in y'all

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<v Speaker 1>first interaction, you know what I mean, you could take

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of that. And so Pete was gonna give me

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<v Speaker 1>a story. Fast forward again to the Baby Mama, where

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<v Speaker 1>he felt like, oh, well, if my friend sleeps with

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<v Speaker 1>my baby mother. And I'm like, well, what difference do

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<v Speaker 1>it make if y'all lot together, Like why does that body? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he's beentraying our friendship. Like how He's like, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care about her, but he will be portraying

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<v Speaker 1>our friendship. I'm like, well, if you don't care about her,

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<v Speaker 1>and Pete was asking the same thing, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't care about her?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, and this is your friend and he has

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<v Speaker 1>positive intentions for this woman, why does it bother? And

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<v Speaker 1>what I was telling Pete and I was telling still

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<v Speaker 1>on the live stream, the truth is you love her,

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<v Speaker 1>And he was like, well no, because I'm not sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>with the once we break up. I'm like, sleeping with

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<v Speaker 1>somebody is not with love is about that's self gratifying.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you can make that type of act about somebody else,

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<v Speaker 3>but for the most part, it's self gratifying. When you

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<v Speaker 3>have to do things for people and you get nothing,

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<v Speaker 3>it's true love. And I'm like, the reality is you

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<v Speaker 3>love her still and it's like, oh, well, why would

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<v Speaker 3>I love her, you know, just because we had a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like yes, And me and Pete were just talking

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<v Speaker 1>to him, you know, and Obviously, the audience that's listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the stream immediately went to a space like where

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<v Speaker 1>they must stand by this versus us saying if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't care trying to get him to say you love

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<v Speaker 1>your kid's mother, which could make you think twice about

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<v Speaker 1>just getting somebody pregnant or at.

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<v Speaker 2>Least want I mean, if not love, at least can

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<v Speaker 2>see that you want her on some degree.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you love them. I think I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>what nobody say. There's no way possible somebody can give

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<v Speaker 1>you extended lineage on the planet Earth and you don't

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<v Speaker 1>love them for it.

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<v Speaker 3>M it's just don't. I don't believe, and nobody who

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<v Speaker 3>says they don't. You could be angry as hell and

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<v Speaker 3>you love them.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you share a whole bloodline with that person. I've

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<v Speaker 1>had many conversations with people about this. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that when you get a woman pregnant, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. She is now a part of your family.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Where you classify her is based off of your understanding

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<v Speaker 1>of what's happening here.

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<v Speaker 3>But a lot of.

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<v Speaker 1>People, you know, the reason girls have told me that

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<v Speaker 1>they dated me in a past.

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<v Speaker 3>Multiple girls said, well, you don't have no kids. I

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't date nobody with kids, mind you, all of them

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<v Speaker 3>have kids. But that's also they.

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<v Speaker 1>Know the dynamic between men and women, not just because

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<v Speaker 1>they may have been in relationship with somebody at kids

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<v Speaker 1>and each YID you know your dynamic with your kids father,

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't want nobody to feel that way how

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<v Speaker 1>you feel because you ain't gonna make because they would

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<v Speaker 1>use theyself as the automatic, you know, reference point. Like

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<v Speaker 1>if it was like, well, I hate my baby daddy,

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<v Speaker 1>so I ain't really worry because you can hate your

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<v Speaker 1>baby dad too, but you gonna reference it off the

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<v Speaker 1>situation where somebody was sleeping with their baby mom. That's

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<v Speaker 1>because you probably sleep with your baby dad. No seilings,

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<v Speaker 1>g hell brother Peter Boss in the house. I got

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<v Speaker 1>a really special guest say how Tony people share her voice? Hell,

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<v Speaker 1>Tony don't really like to talk with She's brilliant, really brilliant,

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<v Speaker 1>says high school. So we wanted him to admit he

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<v Speaker 1>loved his baby mother. And it's so hard for men

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<v Speaker 1>to admit that. Yo, coming from the poor places we

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<v Speaker 1>come from, Like it's like, you don't want anybody to

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<v Speaker 1>date this woman. Y'all want to run around and impregnate

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<v Speaker 1>all the girls from our community.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't want to marry them, but you don't want

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<v Speaker 3>nobody that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know to marry them out of some sense of

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<v Speaker 1>which I don't quite know what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Unless you said you love her.

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<v Speaker 1>I would rather a friend tell me, hey, I love her,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like I can't be with her, but I

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<v Speaker 1>love her. I wouldn't understand that. But if you say

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<v Speaker 1>you don't care, shouldn't matter who decides to make an

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<v Speaker 1>honest woman.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but it's the friend. It's a friend's intention to

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<v Speaker 4>wife her or just to have relations with her to

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<v Speaker 4>be the issue, because now it's like we're sharing chip, Sorry,

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<v Speaker 4>we're sharing like I would never want somebody to be

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<v Speaker 4>able to And I've had this happen like a friend

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<v Speaker 4>of mine, No, no, not a friend of mine. I

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<v Speaker 4>was really close with my son's father's girlfriend. And when

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<v Speaker 4>she started to talk about him, the way in which

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<v Speaker 4>she talked about him, it was like, you know, well,

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<v Speaker 4>he's this and he's that. She didn't, you know, describe

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<v Speaker 4>anything intimate that they had, but she described like the

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<v Speaker 4>way he treated her, the things that he did, and

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<v Speaker 4>it was just like, you know, so now you have

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<v Speaker 4>this comparison system, But guys do things their comparisons with

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<v Speaker 4>like women they share is totally different. Like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>so you know if you had and that's why they

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<v Speaker 4>disrespect in a Like if I was with you and

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<v Speaker 4>then I find out that you were with my friend, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we would have to have some kind of it would

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<v Speaker 4>really be an issue because what if she starts to

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<v Speaker 4>tell me like yeah, you know, well, all I can

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<v Speaker 4>do is like when I close my eyes, I just

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<v Speaker 4>remember how you hit me from the back, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>just like I don't want to share that with my friend,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I don't want you to have any type of

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<v Speaker 4>dealings with something that I've had. So that's why it

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<v Speaker 4>would always be an issue with a friend having why

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<v Speaker 4>because who wants to talk about that difference?

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<v Speaker 3>Does it make y'all would share a play the food?

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<v Speaker 4>No, but men aren't food. Women aren't food.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're you're not really with the person, you

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<v Speaker 1>just slept with them.

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<v Speaker 4>But see that's the thing. That's why I brought up

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<v Speaker 4>the thing that I told my son like that, how

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<v Speaker 4>that's how everyone treats people like things like a oh

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<v Speaker 4>you know what, like I hit that like oh, I

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<v Speaker 4>smashed and that's it. But there's real like emotions that

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<v Speaker 4>came with it. So even though we try to displace

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<v Speaker 4>them in act like they're not there, if someone came

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<v Speaker 4>back later and was like yeah, you know, and then

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<v Speaker 4>described in detail, but not only is she like, she's

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<v Speaker 4>not just your girlfriend, that's your kid's mom, so you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like everything that you did with her, and then the

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<v Speaker 4>friends telling you, like the sun, no, it's just horrible,

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<v Speaker 4>it's horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why you have to but even less examine

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<v Speaker 1>that deeper. Why would that bother you just because she

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<v Speaker 1>had the same penis you at if it's not your

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<v Speaker 1>husband or your boyfriend or your man, it was just

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<v Speaker 1>somebody you was just knocking down.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I personally have a code, and I really stick.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I heard this cold, but I'm asking you,

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<v Speaker 1>why does the code exist?

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<v Speaker 3>This is what me and Pete was pressing ad about.

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<v Speaker 2>So you understood what the hell I was trying to

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<v Speaker 2>ask at the very least, yes, thank you God.

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<v Speaker 3>Enough.

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<v Speaker 1>I kept answering it because people don't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>honest about what happens during sex, true, so they also

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<v Speaker 1>want to use it as a tool of nothingness, as

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<v Speaker 1>an exercise until it's time for somebody else to use

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<v Speaker 1>the same jim equipment that they know, which means we

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<v Speaker 1>can have an even greater conversation about what's happening, which

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<v Speaker 1>the same conversations lie in pregnancies, where people keep acting

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<v Speaker 1>like it's a woman's choice, it's her body. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>about a body, it's about the person inside of her body.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. So again, it's so much, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>So many like nuances that we will skip over for

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<v Speaker 1>the sake of silliness until it's time to have now

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<v Speaker 1>the same full conversation. Let's flush out everything. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I was saying to him, And but I digress

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<v Speaker 1>though what I was saying about that situation with Dirk.

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<v Speaker 1>If the things are true that they're saying, I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>judge him because if somebody did something to my friend,

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<v Speaker 1>I would probably, you know, look for a harmonious way.

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<v Speaker 3>Too, especially if I think.

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<v Speaker 1>But but so there's a few things right, like because

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't there to really like, I won't let my

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<v Speaker 1>friends get in trouble, like if I if I if

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<v Speaker 1>I got a couple guys I got from the streets

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<v Speaker 1>that came up, how I came up. I wouldn't go

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<v Speaker 1>through whatever to keep them out of trouble. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>let them get in trouble. Like like if I had

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<v Speaker 1>a situation with a rapper and then we were somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>where that rapper is that, I'm not going to put

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<v Speaker 1>them in a.

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<v Speaker 3>Situation to where they need to react that way.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just with it on my own at another time.

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<v Speaker 1>But the difference between I think street justice and revenge

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<v Speaker 1>is revenges starts being emotional and it starts being about payback, like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody hurt me, so I need to hurt them, versus

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<v Speaker 1>my mind state is like I need to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>somebody don't keep hurting. So it's only going to be

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<v Speaker 1>specific things that I'm going to respond to, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, Like respond to or if I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say somebody life, Like if I teach you

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<v Speaker 1>this lesson, it might say your life. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>do something to me, I'm like, you know what, that

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<v Speaker 1>might get you killed another time. So I might, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hit you upside your head so you realize this could

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<v Speaker 1>be worse next time. Okay, I really believe in injustice,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? And I don't think America's

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<v Speaker 1>sense of justice is more superior in minds. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care what society agrees with, and that's what everybody pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much gets mistake about.

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<v Speaker 4>Or yeah, but I mean we're we're fundamentally tall to

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<v Speaker 4>put it in the hands of someone else. That's that's

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<v Speaker 4>why people implement the police when something happens, instead of

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<v Speaker 4>you trying to find your way to solve it, and

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<v Speaker 4>you give it to the courts. Like you know, if

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<v Speaker 4>something happens to your child, you're like, oh, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll report them instead of saying, you know what I

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<v Speaker 4>like I have I've told my children, like if something

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<v Speaker 4>happens to you the way that that's handled, you may

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<v Speaker 4>not like the timeline, but you know, people come up

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<v Speaker 4>missing every day, you know. But I wouldn't say that

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna sit and wait because you have a justice

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<v Speaker 4>system that a play in your face. You know, something

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<v Speaker 4>will happen to your child that Harry's a life sentence

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<v Speaker 4>to them, a mission you know, emotionally and mentally, and

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<v Speaker 4>they tell them five years you know, so this person

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<v Speaker 4>walk away unaware of the told that they've taken on

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<v Speaker 4>your child's life. But you, as a parent, it's up

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<v Speaker 4>to you to make sure that they really feel that.

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<v Speaker 4>And and and people around them actually feel that. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not a person who you know in the Japanese, Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>they're there. They have a thing where they kill off

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<v Speaker 4>the whole family line. And and some people are are

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<v Speaker 4>worthy of like some crimes they've committed, Like there should

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<v Speaker 4>be no one after you. You shouldn't have children, you

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<v Speaker 4>shouldn't have cousins. You your line is bad, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>But we'll say nay, who But we say, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, let them spend life in jail, or you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we give it to God, or we do a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of things that that we should take upon ourselves to

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<v Speaker 4>like handle so that my child will know like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>my mom did that. You know. So I'm really protective

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<v Speaker 4>of who of who I have around them because I

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<v Speaker 4>know that I don't have the same kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 4>value system on life. If someone wants to hurt my kid,

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<v Speaker 4>where are you.

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<v Speaker 3>At with to be.

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<v Speaker 2>With what? There's a lot there, like with regard to

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<v Speaker 2>personal or outsourcing of justice. Sure, I understand both. Obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the philosophical root behind seeking out a third

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<v Speaker 2>party is to attempt to take the emotionality out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Most people aren't able to do it themselves. So you

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<v Speaker 2>want to have the most neutral arbiter that you can

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<v Speaker 2>Jewish you know, probably in ninety five percent of cases

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<v Speaker 2>that's necessary. You know, Japanese culture, they're pretty disciplined, they're

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<v Speaker 2>not very emotionally, but they also have like set their

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<v Speaker 2>standards as them max. If you cause shame to your family,

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<v Speaker 2>you stabbed yourself and the torso fatally like, that's aggressive.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, most other cultures don't do that. So the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that they want to say, yeah, well you know

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<v Speaker 2>we'll take it, We'll put take it into our own

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<v Speaker 2>hands and make sure that we do the max. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's there's not a lot of restraint there, so emotional

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<v Speaker 2>or not, you're still going to get the same maxed

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<v Speaker 2>out result.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, I mean, as far as like the Dirk

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<v Speaker 2>thing goes, I don't like so we said before. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it depends on what your bigger picture your values are

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<v Speaker 2>in that case.

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<v Speaker 3>M hmm.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm confused. I thought that it was to a

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<v Speaker 4>bench his friend, it was okay, and then they found

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<v Speaker 4>out that it was related to another woman as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Or is that the thing to do with the woman,

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<v Speaker 2>and he eventually thinks.

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<v Speaker 1>That the initial conflict is over. They say, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure if it's true, but they say, initially it was

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<v Speaker 1>over at the two crews, the two guys, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the two separate crews were interacting with the same women,

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<v Speaker 1>and somewhere along the line, you know it, who knows.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, maybe somebody's talking shit. I quite don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But women are extremely responsible with their actions. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>moral of the story as the moral.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that the moral of the story.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the moral of pretty much any story, at

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<v Speaker 2>least any story that involves women.

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<v Speaker 3>Us. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Parallel universes, one with consequences, the other not so much.

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<v Speaker 3>Women definitely living at the other one not so much. Yeah, huh.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't think women live in the consequence universe with

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<v Speaker 3>no consequence. They don't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Have any like like consequence for accountability for things of

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<v Speaker 1>consequence when they do something wrong, You don't think. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that's what chivalry rides on, the concept of

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<v Speaker 1>women really having no consequence. No, I why else should

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<v Speaker 1>somebody open the door for you? What's what's a logical

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<v Speaker 1>reason for someone to open the door for a woman?

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<v Speaker 1>Logical do her arms not work? Is the door heavy

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<v Speaker 1>and she cannot lift it? Or is it too much

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<v Speaker 1>work on her to swing the heavy door open? If

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<v Speaker 1>it's cold outside, aren't we both cold?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's what it is. They live in the universal consequences.

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<v Speaker 2>They have to trust that someone's gonna close the door. Seats,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll just fuck it open it yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Too. What's the logical thing? Why should men pursue women?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, okay, so then we also go into what is

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<v Speaker 4>your spiritual back then background, like what are your spiritual beliefs?

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<v Speaker 4>Because and you know, if you if you're a person

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<v Speaker 4>who follows who's religious, then it's always been men as

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<v Speaker 4>the head. And then women are you know, they're they're

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<v Speaker 4>they're they're made, they're their helpmate. It's been told since

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<v Speaker 4>how men was developed, So why would we reverse it

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<v Speaker 4>to where and that's where society's gone now. It's like

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<v Speaker 4>now women are taking care of men, and men are

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<v Speaker 4>being pursued by women, and men are looking to be

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<v Speaker 4>you know, chosen by women, and so now we're having

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<v Speaker 4>where you know, you don't really see the value women

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<v Speaker 4>are now, they don't see the value in men because

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<v Speaker 4>they can do just as much as men, and they

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<v Speaker 4>bring just as much as a man. So you don't

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<v Speaker 4>see where he's vital until you need the trash ticking out,

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<v Speaker 4>until you need, you know, something built, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe a spider killed. For those that don't like spiders, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, should you just learn how to kill spot?

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<v Speaker 4>You should? I mean most women can, but you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's everything that how society. It's a shame that

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<v Speaker 4>women don't, but.

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<v Speaker 2>We have.

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<v Speaker 4>There's roles that you grow up with and then some

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<v Speaker 4>are not able to experience the roles of a mother

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<v Speaker 4>and father and so you know, you develop, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>a point where you start to rely on self and

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<v Speaker 4>you don't see where men because you've seen it over

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<v Speaker 4>and over where women are able to sustain their self

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<v Speaker 4>and there's not a vital need for them. But society

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<v Speaker 4>in the world is made up where men are vital,

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<v Speaker 4>they're important, they're necessary.

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<v Speaker 3>In real life.

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<v Speaker 4>They aren't in real life they are.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you pretty much can do everything a man can do.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that's a I mean, it's a defense thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, if that's your only option, if there's no

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<v Speaker 4>one else that.

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<v Speaker 3>You just logical capability.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I believe that most women may want a partner.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just hard to find someone, so you have to

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<v Speaker 4>learn to rely on yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you feel like, I mean, logically, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>think of anything a woman can't do that a man

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<v Speaker 1>could do. I think it goes into do they want.

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<v Speaker 3>To do it?

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<v Speaker 4>It's really do you need to Most men need to

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<v Speaker 4>step into the role that they were given and be

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<v Speaker 4>the men that they're supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 2>But that goes that's predicated on the assumption that they

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<v Speaker 2>want a woman and that a woman brings anything to

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<v Speaker 2>the table themselves other than sex. It's a two way

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<v Speaker 2>street in that regard.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's really what so a man. So even

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred years ago, right, a man would choose a

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<v Speaker 1>woman because a woman was the only way he could

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<v Speaker 1>continue on his lineage. Man could cook, man could clean,

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:18.280
<v Speaker 1>man could decorate a house, man could do everything that

0:27:18.320 --> 0:27:20.720
<v Speaker 1>a woman could do, just like a woman could change oil,

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<v Speaker 1>change a tire, go to work, pay bills, right, but

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 1>then right morally right, which goes into that Christianity background,

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:34.879
<v Speaker 1>or Islamic background, or Judaism background, or even in the

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 1>you know laws, because there are like I always say

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<v Speaker 1>there's three things that I know for sure create morality.

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:45.200
<v Speaker 3>The legal system, the legend, and streets. Streets Like culture

0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 3>creates laws, it creates morality.

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<v Speaker 1>And it really comes down to you don't need a

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<v Speaker 1>woman to cook for you.

0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 3>You want a woman to cook for you. You don't

0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:03.280
<v Speaker 3>need a woman to clean up for you. You want

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:06.199
<v Speaker 3>a woman to clean up for you. You know what

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:07.960
<v Speaker 3>you need a woman to do.

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:13.000
<v Speaker 1>To carry your lineage, to produce a child for you.

0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:22.080
<v Speaker 1>That's where the value of women change through logics, because

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 1>everybody could.

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<v Speaker 3>Do the same thing. So for remember, a woman, like

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:29.520
<v Speaker 3>a man's sperm, is the seed a woman just she

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:33.040
<v Speaker 3>has the egg to just fertilize it. But a man's

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:36.879
<v Speaker 3>seed goes into the dirt. And that's why they always

0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:39.959
<v Speaker 3>used to say, a woman is giving you a child,

0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 3>she's you know, she's her eggs are you know, that's

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:48.440
<v Speaker 3>where your seeds are developing inside this egg. So I

0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 3>think logically, when you look at it that way, this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is minus you know, moral compass or you know, societal

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 1>norms or even religious structure.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It all comes down to chivalry and everything that makes

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<v Speaker 1>a woman value is because she can give you the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to let your seed grow, to fertilize your seed.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the true logical difference. There's nothing else logically different.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>Women could always do the same thing. They can go

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<v Speaker 3>to work twelve hours, they can pay their own bills,

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 3>they can change the oil, they can get triple a

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:26.960
<v Speaker 3>change a tire.

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<v Speaker 1>They all of the things men can do for them,

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 1>they can do for theirself. The only thing a woman

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 1>can't do is impregnate herself. You don't need a man,

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:40.880
<v Speaker 1>you don't need to spine for that eventually, And that's

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 1>the logics, right. The logics was the seed is the baby,

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:47.959
<v Speaker 1>the egg is the carrier, the carrier of a baby.

0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 1>So that used to create the value or women to men.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why men would marry women fourteen years old

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 1>right when they started, you know, administration, because they wanted

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 1>wealth was con her how big your family was. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you got a girl that was thirteen years old

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<v Speaker 1>and you were twenty two, you could just keep it

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<v Speaker 1>pregnating her for the next I don't know, twenty years

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 1>or some shit.

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<v Speaker 2>You know how.

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<v Speaker 3>Many You know, you have twenty kids.

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 1>You can get pregnant every day till she's forty four,

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 1>she keep getting pregnant every you know what I mean,

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:21.800
<v Speaker 1>and people thought that was wealth. So that created the

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<v Speaker 1>value for women before that.

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:25.560
<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Now religiously God saying a woman is your helpmate, So

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<v Speaker 1>a man needing a help her to to uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to accomplish his goals. But if you really think about

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:41.840
<v Speaker 1>it logically, that's the logical stands. So that's what I'm

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 1>saying to you. Even when you think about it as

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<v Speaker 1>far as as far as there is no logical reason

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 1>to be shiverrous, it's because this woman can allow your

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<v Speaker 1>lineage to carry on. That's what gave her the pedestal.

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<v Speaker 1>She can house your not only can you trip off

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<v Speaker 1>this right, so you could take five seconds, I mean you,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure in your life you know you're wrong. You've

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 1>probably been with a man that has took five seconds

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:21.400
<v Speaker 1>that she could leave you ten months worth of work

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:25.360
<v Speaker 1>and there's nothing this man. He don't even have to

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:28.440
<v Speaker 1>be there for that ten months worth of work. All

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 1>that stuff happened to you. Your organs squished around. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to sound like extra you know, on

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<v Speaker 1>the side of.

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<v Speaker 3>Ladies, but this is just for real, right, it's like

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 3>you could just take that five seconds.

0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 1>You can meet him in the club. He could take

0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:43.960
<v Speaker 1>that five seconds, and you don't even enjoy what happened.

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 1>At ten months, your body is finna go through helen

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:52.480
<v Speaker 1>hot water. And then when the child is born, you

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:57.640
<v Speaker 1>have to feed the child like you're equipped with the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to feed the child for at least a year

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<v Speaker 1>or two.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, that is.

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<v Speaker 1>Where the value and women were placed in that respected

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<v Speaker 1>and admirable, admired role.

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:20.200
<v Speaker 3>But if I'm asking.

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 1>My homeboy on the stream, he's saying, if the connotations

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't love my baby mother is because you don't value.

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<v Speaker 3>What she did for you. You don't vow. You can't

0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 3>say you value your kid without value on your baby mother,

0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:37.560
<v Speaker 3>the mother your child. You don't have a kid without it.

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 3>And don't forgive me to all the people who listen

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:44.360
<v Speaker 3>to no seilings. Look, fellers, I'm all for the fifty

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 3>fifty concept as far as it's both your child, But

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 3>let's be honest, it's just so much you gotta do

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<v Speaker 3>in the first three years.

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:54.200
<v Speaker 1>You don't need to be there. She really needs you

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:58.000
<v Speaker 1>for the first you know, fifteen seconds of it. Pretty

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:00.840
<v Speaker 1>much you could just disappear and she could do it

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<v Speaker 1>all by herself.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean.

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:06.760
<v Speaker 1>For the next I don't know, two three years. When

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 1>is the first time a baby needs more than a

0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 1>mom's breast milk? When is for sure?

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 3>With age.

0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:16.320
<v Speaker 2>Old men.

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<v Speaker 4>Baby the first year for sure, at.

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<v Speaker 1>Least he could get through twelve months. Just a child

0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:28.960
<v Speaker 1>can get through twelve months with just a mother's breast milk.

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that is crazy. So ten months plus a year,

0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 3>so that's twenty two months for sure. You don't have

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 3>to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's where I think chivalry really is rational. But

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<v Speaker 1>you would have to respect what a woman can do

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:54.480
<v Speaker 1>for your legacy. And I don't think most men.

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<v Speaker 4>Because there's not a value system for both. Like men

0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:02.280
<v Speaker 4>don't value women, women don't value men. We don't look

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:06.760
<v Speaker 4>at what they you know, we pace monetary value on

0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:10.960
<v Speaker 4>each sex, so on a man, so you don't see

0:34:11.040 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 4>where you don't see on men. So some some do.

0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:21.080
<v Speaker 4>And but I think it's also the fault of men too,

0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:25.319
<v Speaker 4>Like some men have reduced theirself to only be necessary

0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:28.160
<v Speaker 4>because of what they bring to women. You know, a

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:32.279
<v Speaker 4>woman can only know what you have if you you know,

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:34.840
<v Speaker 4>make evidence or break light or what you you know

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:37.440
<v Speaker 4>what you bring. If you don't bring just yourself and

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:40.239
<v Speaker 4>she only sees like you know, your car and you

0:34:40.719 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 4>lead with those things, and you're gonna get the ones

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:46.360
<v Speaker 4>who only want you for stuff, you know. So the

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:49.120
<v Speaker 4>fact that men are not building themselves up to bring

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:52.279
<v Speaker 4>more than just money, Yeah, that's what you're going to

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:56.320
<v Speaker 4>fall into. Like group gold diggers don't just they exist

0:34:56.360 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 4>because there's someone that knows that they can't receipt or

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:03.800
<v Speaker 4>get the type of women that they have without things.

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:07.400
<v Speaker 4>Men acquire things, and that's been that's even in the

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:10.279
<v Speaker 4>animal kingdom. I mean, you want to be seen for

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:14.000
<v Speaker 4>what you have, so you can't judge that you're meeting

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 4>only the type of women who want you for stuff

0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 4>because you led with that, I'm just your personality. Did

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:22.160
<v Speaker 4>she get to see that hey, you know, did you

0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:24.919
<v Speaker 4>meet her in a Toyota Corolla and then she got

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:26.600
<v Speaker 4>to know you and love you and then you shoulder

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:28.440
<v Speaker 4>your garage with the Porsche or did you lead with

0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:31.400
<v Speaker 4>the Porsche.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like we're on the other end of the critical

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:38.680
<v Speaker 2>mass moment there for that. It's like talking about valuing,

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:43.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, bilateral value between men and women. In the

0:35:44.040 --> 0:35:48.480
<v Speaker 2>last sixty years. As you know, the crescendo of women

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 2>into the corporate income space has tracked perpendicularly with the

0:35:56.080 --> 0:36:01.480
<v Speaker 2>facilitation of casual pussy. So both those things have I mean,

0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:08.960
<v Speaker 2>women have needed men in their life less financially because

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:11.879
<v Speaker 2>they have their own money, and men have needed women

0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 2>in their life less permanently because they made pussy very

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:20.319
<v Speaker 2>easily available. And then you factor that in with like

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:24.640
<v Speaker 2>say the materialistic sugar daddy type of situation. Yeah, I

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:28.400
<v Speaker 2>mean a generation ago, sure that was maybe like the

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:32.160
<v Speaker 2>minority of outcomes. Now it's such the majority of outcome

0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:35.160
<v Speaker 2>is It's hit that critical mass moment where now like

0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:39.399
<v Speaker 2>women define the quality of their date based off of

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:42.719
<v Speaker 2>what the date spent on them, and that's become like

0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:49.719
<v Speaker 2>a large scale majority expectation assessment. It's not. And you

0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:51.440
<v Speaker 2>see that kind of thing happens all the time. Like

0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:55.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, what you can take like any I'm trying

0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:57.080
<v Speaker 2>to pick on like I know, like the listenership of

0:36:57.160 --> 0:37:00.360
<v Speaker 2>like the show or whatever. But if you took a

0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:04.360
<v Speaker 2>population sector and like it's just just every stating this

0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:07.759
<v Speaker 2>is a mathematical illustration example, like and one in ten

0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:14.400
<v Speaker 2>kids there come from like single mom households so the

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:17.920
<v Speaker 2>ten percent are still going to be assimilated into the

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:21.160
<v Speaker 2>value system of the ninety percent until the ten percent

0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:24.440
<v Speaker 2>becomes the ninety percent. Then the uh then the former

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:27.080
<v Speaker 2>ninety percent, now ten is going to be assimilated into

0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:31.080
<v Speaker 2>the vice system of the majority. So you see that

0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:34.239
<v Speaker 2>happening in this case, you know, study as well, like

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:34.839
<v Speaker 2>in real time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just think both sex have a bad habit

0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 1>of doing that. And I don't want to make it

0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:53.359
<v Speaker 1>about like some kind of equal level, but I think

0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:56.799
<v Speaker 1>this is a this is an issue in humans. I mean,

0:37:56.840 --> 0:37:59.959
<v Speaker 1>because you're right, there are men who lead with their money.

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:03.560
<v Speaker 1>And I've been in a situation or not a situation,

0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:07.279
<v Speaker 1>but my thought had been, you got to accept that

0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:12.920
<v Speaker 1>women see you as providers.

0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:13.799
<v Speaker 2>And human beings. Men and women want to get the

0:38:13.840 --> 0:38:15.600
<v Speaker 2>most for the least.

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:18.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's just it exists every time.

0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:22.239
<v Speaker 2>If getting gobs of money is easier for you for

0:38:22.320 --> 0:38:27.680
<v Speaker 2>your time investment than being there like super invested in

0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:31.239
<v Speaker 2>a person interpersonally, and you can say you still haven't.

0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:33.480
<v Speaker 2>I got a surplus a fifty grand based off of

0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:35.560
<v Speaker 2>the fact that I make seven hundred K a year.

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Gives a shit, it's nothing. Here's fifty grand, you know,

0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 2>versus you know, I don't. I barely make fifty grand,

0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:45.560
<v Speaker 2>but I have all the desire to sink all of

0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:49.799
<v Speaker 2>my effort into, you know, the interpersonal communication with the women.

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yes, yeah, I definitely agree with that, And

0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:58.520
<v Speaker 1>I get with Tony is saying as far as like

0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:01.600
<v Speaker 1>men who lead with their money, because women do want providers,

0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:03.840
<v Speaker 1>they do want somebody to take care of them. But

0:39:04.120 --> 0:39:06.640
<v Speaker 1>it's the equivalent of a woman leading with her body

0:39:06.680 --> 0:39:11.600
<v Speaker 1>and wearing certain outfits. Sure right, that the goal could

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:13.840
<v Speaker 1>be like, you know, a man sees a woman and

0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:16.800
<v Speaker 1>he's like, hey, I want to continue on my lineage

0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:18.560
<v Speaker 1>on the planet Earth. I want to make you know,

0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 1>I want to spread my seed and so forth and song.

0:39:22.280 --> 0:39:27.040
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, you're over selling your ability to create

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:33.440
<v Speaker 1>and nurture like me, and over selling their ability to

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:34.800
<v Speaker 1>to provide and protect.

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Are you saying all those social media tworking videos are

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:42.719
<v Speaker 2>not setting a marital expectation. I'm not hearing that.

0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:53.480
<v Speaker 3>Definitely, that definitely definitely not shattering.

0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:05.720
<v Speaker 4>I think the fact that we're I mean, society still

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<v Speaker 4>acts as if this is not a normal occurrence is unreal.

0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:15.600
<v Speaker 4>It's like everyone since the beginning of time, there have

0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:19.759
<v Speaker 4>been women who have tried to access men or the

0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:25.000
<v Speaker 4>money that they've had, whatever they brought. It's not anything new,

0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 4>it's just that the upsetting part is that there are

0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:33.200
<v Speaker 4>not people. Some people are not in the right tax bracket,

0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:39.440
<v Speaker 4>are the right income to the issue. Bothers people that

0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:44.799
<v Speaker 4>don't have the monetary access to get the woman that

0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:48.520
<v Speaker 4>is considered the go digger. Like some men are making

0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:51.239
<v Speaker 4>this like a common thing that they run into, but

0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 4>you're not of that. You're not in the running because

0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:58.560
<v Speaker 4>most of the women who are after certain men, they're

0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:02.919
<v Speaker 4>after men that have set out to meet women or

0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:05.200
<v Speaker 4>what they can give them. Like the sugar daddy exists.

0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:07.560
<v Speaker 4>That's what he knows his role is. He knows that

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:10.680
<v Speaker 4>he's only looking for someone that he can maybe take

0:41:10.719 --> 0:41:14.160
<v Speaker 4>out spend money on. And then it's social media has

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:17.640
<v Speaker 4>made it like everyone has access to that woman, and

0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:21.520
<v Speaker 4>that's not true and it's very unfortunate. Like you know,

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 4>most men are saying it's hard to meet, you know,

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:27.000
<v Speaker 4>good women because you know they're all after your money.

0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:31.560
<v Speaker 4>But most people are not even trying to pursue relationships

0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:33.839
<v Speaker 4>or even get to know someone to find out if

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:36.040
<v Speaker 4>you want to be if she wants to see you

0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:39.600
<v Speaker 4>more than just your money. So it's it's like we're

0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:42.279
<v Speaker 4>not really just trying to get to know people. And

0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:44.840
<v Speaker 4>that's why you have so many people with children with

0:41:44.880 --> 0:41:48.400
<v Speaker 4>people that don't know, they don't like. They've never they've

0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:51.879
<v Speaker 4>never wanted anything more with this person other than just sex,

0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:54.719
<v Speaker 4>and bam, a kid came. So when a man says, like, no,

0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 4>I don't love her, he's right. He doesn't know who

0:41:57.160 --> 0:41:58.880
<v Speaker 4>the hell she is. She just happens to be the

0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:01.440
<v Speaker 4>mother of his child. You didn't set out with a

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:03.759
<v Speaker 4>mission and a purpose. People are giving their bodies to

0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:07.080
<v Speaker 4>people that they don't like. They're right, you don't like.

0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:08.759
<v Speaker 4>And that's one of the worst things you can ever

0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:11.400
<v Speaker 4>do to yourself is sign yourself up with someone you

0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:14.560
<v Speaker 4>don't like because you don't know, You don't even you

0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:16.440
<v Speaker 4>haven't even taken the time to say, hey, you know,

0:42:16.520 --> 0:42:19.719
<v Speaker 4>what is their stance on anything, whether be able to

0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:22.520
<v Speaker 4>educate your kid, raise your kid, provide for your kid.

0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:24.840
<v Speaker 4>This chick doesn't know because she met him in the club,

0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:28.759
<v Speaker 4>or it's vice versa, Like what about her? Would say,

0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 4>you're stuck with her now? But can you say like

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:34.680
<v Speaker 4>with confidence, like, man, I'm happy about the fact that

0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:38.239
<v Speaker 4>she's my kid's mom. No you're not. And now it's

0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:40.320
<v Speaker 4>like everyone's serving time. And that's why you see people

0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:42.480
<v Speaker 4>doing child support and they're like, shit, I can't wait

0:42:42.560 --> 0:42:46.239
<v Speaker 4>till eighteen and yeah, because you didn't see you have

0:42:46.560 --> 0:42:48.600
<v Speaker 4>you know, the woman didn't provide you with a gift,

0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:52.319
<v Speaker 4>or you're like you know your lineage, You're like, oh, yeah,

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:56.319
<v Speaker 4>she just gave you a a fucking bill. That excuse me.

0:42:56.640 --> 0:42:58.480
<v Speaker 4>That's what you see it as you know, so you're

0:42:58.520 --> 0:43:02.040
<v Speaker 4>not going to take like now. You know, at first,

0:43:02.120 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 4>there was like we were raised like a man would say, hey,

0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:07.360
<v Speaker 4>I come to my parents' dad. You know, I to

0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:10.200
<v Speaker 4>step up. You know, I have a kid. Now you

0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:12.840
<v Speaker 4>don't have to raise anything. You can pick and choose

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:14.880
<v Speaker 4>if you want to do this. That's why that stance

0:43:14.960 --> 0:43:17.840
<v Speaker 4>on pro choice is such a big deal, because people

0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:20.680
<v Speaker 4>get to do these things and then say not today,

0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:24.480
<v Speaker 4>I don't want it, you know. And that's why, like society,

0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:27.239
<v Speaker 4>we're able to discard everything. We're able to look at

0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:29.279
<v Speaker 4>things and just be like, oh I don't want that,

0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:31.399
<v Speaker 4>or or don't want her, or or don't want him

0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:34.640
<v Speaker 4>or you know, and that's just what's tragic is that

0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:39.040
<v Speaker 4>there is no there's no commitment to anything you know,

0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 4>so and that that leaves you in a bad place

0:43:43.160 --> 0:43:46.480
<v Speaker 4>now because if you have, you know, traditional values, you're

0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 4>just seem like an eyeball because everyone else is just like, well,

0:43:50.760 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 4>you know, I don't have to I don't have to

0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:55.600
<v Speaker 4>do that. Where we're just at this, we don't have

0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:58.000
<v Speaker 4>to do anything we don't want to do. And that

0:43:58.160 --> 0:44:01.040
<v Speaker 4>carries over even into like the rest.

0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:01.319
<v Speaker 2>Of our life.

0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 4>We don't have to build with anybody. You know, I

0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:05.200
<v Speaker 4>get to spend time with you, and if I say

0:44:05.200 --> 0:44:08.040
<v Speaker 4>I don't like you, then regardless of what we shared

0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:14.000
<v Speaker 4>or what we've done, I'm over it. And that's the

0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:15.680
<v Speaker 4>horrible part about society.

0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:15.919
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:18.480
<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's tough.

0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:24.360
<v Speaker 1>I think I've made my own personal mistakes when it

0:44:24.400 --> 0:44:26.640
<v Speaker 1>comes down to when it comes down to a lot

0:44:26.640 --> 0:44:29.160
<v Speaker 1>of this stuff, because I do think that my values

0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:33.800
<v Speaker 1>are like a seventy song, but I'm still trying to

0:44:34.040 --> 0:44:36.239
<v Speaker 1>fit into twenty twenty four R and B.

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:39.080
<v Speaker 3>And I think there is no room to do that.

0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Like it's crazy because as somebody that grew up in

0:44:43.920 --> 0:44:46.799
<v Speaker 1>the streets, right like I don't act like I am

0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:48.080
<v Speaker 1>a law body citizen.

0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:51.840
<v Speaker 3>I do not believe you can play in the middle

0:44:51.920 --> 0:44:52.759
<v Speaker 3>of Like.

0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:55.320
<v Speaker 1>I feel so bad for black people who really feel

0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:59.560
<v Speaker 1>like like I talk to my homeboys and they'll be like, oh, yeah,

0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:02.399
<v Speaker 1>well into that street bullshit, But then they won't call

0:45:02.480 --> 0:45:05.279
<v Speaker 1>the police when something happens to their family, Like.

0:45:05.320 --> 0:45:06.520
<v Speaker 3>That's no man's land.

0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:08.880
<v Speaker 1>And I never recommend, like I tell problem, like, you

0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:12.479
<v Speaker 1>should never be in no man's land where you don't

0:45:12.520 --> 0:45:15.160
<v Speaker 1>want to react like the streets, but then you don't

0:45:15.239 --> 0:45:17.799
<v Speaker 1>want to be like a tax band citizen and use

0:45:17.880 --> 0:45:20.759
<v Speaker 1>the proper authorities for these matters, you know what I mean.

0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:23.600
<v Speaker 1>So that's how I feel morally that I get stuck

0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:28.120
<v Speaker 1>at where it's like I have the morals from sixties

0:45:28.120 --> 0:45:31.000
<v Speaker 1>and seventies, but I'm trying to adapt into a two

0:45:31.080 --> 0:45:36.520
<v Speaker 1>thousand and twenty four space of existing. Yeah, and it's

0:45:36.560 --> 0:45:39.720
<v Speaker 1>really like the same thing. It's really no man's land there.

0:45:40.640 --> 0:45:45.080
<v Speaker 2>Sure, older you get, and the older you get, the

0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:47.360
<v Speaker 2>harder it gets like that kind of stuff problem like

0:45:47.440 --> 0:45:54.160
<v Speaker 2>that exists more in the early twenties at the college,

0:45:54.480 --> 0:45:56.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, experienced all that kind of stuff to the

0:45:57.040 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 2>degree that it's reduced, you know, obviously over the life

0:46:01.000 --> 0:46:03.799
<v Speaker 2>two generations for sure, but it does exist more there

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:09.120
<v Speaker 2>than in your mid thirties, when you're now more emotionally independent.

0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Other people have kids. You might you might not, but

0:46:14.000 --> 0:46:20.480
<v Speaker 2>like the the hurdle of shit to get over, you know,

0:46:20.520 --> 0:46:24.319
<v Speaker 2>when you're into your thirties and forties is a whole lot.

0:46:24.480 --> 0:46:26.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you you you don't know who you are.

0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:29.839
<v Speaker 2>You follow some of your twenty two you learn who

0:46:29.880 --> 0:46:32.719
<v Speaker 2>you are with that other person. When you learn who

0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:37.120
<v Speaker 2>you are on your own, you know that that that

0:46:37.200 --> 0:46:40.160
<v Speaker 2>by itself makes it a whole lot less necessary to

0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:44.440
<v Speaker 2>have a partner. You don't need all of the soft values, you.

0:46:44.400 --> 0:46:53.000
<v Speaker 3>Know, quote unquote m hm, So is anything worth all

0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:55.720
<v Speaker 3>of this stuff? Like how do you exist in this space?

0:46:55.920 --> 0:46:59.440
<v Speaker 3>Where like so even in Dirk situation, now like how

0:46:59.480 --> 0:47:05.000
<v Speaker 3>does he There were people channing saying, oh, you need

0:47:05.040 --> 0:47:08.120
<v Speaker 3>to ride for King bonb Yeah right, and then now

0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:11.480
<v Speaker 3>he actually you realize possibly.

0:47:11.239 --> 0:47:13.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, obviously we don't know if this evidence is true.

0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:16.240
<v Speaker 1>You know, it is the government of America. They usually

0:47:16.680 --> 0:47:19.200
<v Speaker 1>they have a bad habit of misframing black man a

0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:22.000
<v Speaker 1>million times. But let's say, for example, this is true,

0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:24.319
<v Speaker 1>how do we judge him and not support him in

0:47:24.360 --> 0:47:29.320
<v Speaker 1>this situation for getting the vengeance you know, against somebody

0:47:29.360 --> 0:47:32.200
<v Speaker 1>that harmed his friend or that was responsible for the

0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:35.560
<v Speaker 1>harming of his friend. Like, that's my thing. So I

0:47:35.600 --> 0:47:39.959
<v Speaker 1>won't say it's tragic or sad. I'll just be like, yeah, well,

0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:43.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's the life we live. Fight it, hopefully

0:47:43.040 --> 0:47:47.719
<v Speaker 1>you beat it, yeah, you know versus where you know,

0:47:47.840 --> 0:47:50.400
<v Speaker 1>like I said, I'm telling my homeboy based off of Alive,

0:47:50.600 --> 0:47:53.439
<v Speaker 1>It's like he like, well, you mad at some dude

0:47:53.440 --> 0:47:55.400
<v Speaker 1>that slept with this lady. And that goes back to

0:47:55.440 --> 0:47:56.839
<v Speaker 1>that point you were saying, I don't want to lose

0:47:56.880 --> 0:47:59.640
<v Speaker 1>That is, you don't have to know her. Once you

0:47:59.719 --> 0:48:04.680
<v Speaker 1>come together with somebody, intimately, the feelings are there in

0:48:04.719 --> 0:48:09.640
<v Speaker 1>that exchange, right, It's not just bread and liking someone

0:48:09.800 --> 0:48:13.919
<v Speaker 1>or preferring their method of behavior. That's not really love.

0:48:14.840 --> 0:48:19.560
<v Speaker 1>That's like you know what I mean, that's that could

0:48:19.560 --> 0:48:22.719
<v Speaker 1>be respect, it could be admirable, but that ain't love.

0:48:22.840 --> 0:48:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Love is something that is really this innate desire to care,

0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:30.800
<v Speaker 1>and it's more innate.

0:48:30.880 --> 0:48:34.400
<v Speaker 3>You don't like, you don't develop it. It's natural, you know.

0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:37.359
<v Speaker 1>It's not something you can force, like you can show love,

0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:39.520
<v Speaker 1>but you don't have to be loved, you know what

0:48:39.520 --> 0:48:42.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. So that's a little funny, but I gotta

0:48:43.040 --> 0:48:46.120
<v Speaker 1>revisit it. But I'm saying it's like if you do

0:48:46.320 --> 0:48:48.319
<v Speaker 1>come into a woman, I mean, and I don't mean

0:48:48.360 --> 0:48:50.440
<v Speaker 1>coming to it like the nasty way, but like in

0:48:50.480 --> 0:48:54.080
<v Speaker 1>the biblical sense, there is a connection of emotions that happen.

0:48:54.520 --> 0:48:57.879
<v Speaker 1>You do see your child, and there are emotions that

0:48:58.360 --> 0:49:01.520
<v Speaker 1>you didn't have to develop because you are appreciate her personality.

0:49:02.080 --> 0:49:04.680
<v Speaker 1>It just comes with the territory. And that's what I

0:49:04.760 --> 0:49:08.719
<v Speaker 1>was saying to him about the relationship with women in war.

0:49:09.080 --> 0:49:10.879
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying. It's like.

0:49:12.440 --> 0:49:14.840
<v Speaker 1>That's where they were mad at as far as and

0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:17.640
<v Speaker 1>he really didn't feel like no, he was like, yeah, well,

0:49:17.760 --> 0:49:20.240
<v Speaker 1>if somebody sleep with us, she just a whole because

0:49:20.239 --> 0:49:21.120
<v Speaker 1>he felt.

0:49:20.760 --> 0:49:21.919
<v Speaker 3>Like there is nothing there.

0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:24.839
<v Speaker 1>Like even even when he was referencing the girls he

0:49:24.920 --> 0:49:26.560
<v Speaker 1>was dating, he was like, yeah, well I'm not sleeping

0:49:26.600 --> 0:49:26.919
<v Speaker 1>with them.

0:49:27.000 --> 0:49:30.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't have nothing to do with love. That's about you,

0:49:30.239 --> 0:49:32.480
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. That's about you. I mean,

0:49:32.520 --> 0:49:33.640
<v Speaker 3>you're not making no kids.

0:49:33.640 --> 0:49:36.719
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, what you're talking about is when that

0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:39.960
<v Speaker 1>girl needs some help you know later on, like you

0:49:40.000 --> 0:49:42.040
<v Speaker 1>buy a car when your kid is grown and she

0:49:42.040 --> 0:49:43.200
<v Speaker 1>don't need a ride no more.

0:49:43.560 --> 0:49:46.600
<v Speaker 3>That's love. You get nothing for it. That's because your

0:49:46.640 --> 0:49:48.680
<v Speaker 3>appreciative is to love.

0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:51.879
<v Speaker 1>Is you care about her, because why you care about

0:49:51.920 --> 0:49:54.759
<v Speaker 1>her is more than just she delivered your kid or

0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:57.920
<v Speaker 1>she raised your kid. Is because there is a connection

0:49:58.040 --> 0:50:02.000
<v Speaker 1>that happened that we are not grivn credence to, as

0:50:03.120 --> 0:50:06.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, as a society, especially in America, now, we're

0:50:06.520 --> 0:50:10.560
<v Speaker 1>not giving credence to the true connections of those intimate

0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:14.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, those intimate moments where we come together and.

0:50:15.800 --> 0:50:17.160
<v Speaker 3>These feelings are created.

0:50:17.440 --> 0:50:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Like I as somebody asked me that, and I remember

0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:22.759
<v Speaker 1>they was like, like I realized, if I could have

0:50:22.840 --> 0:50:28.440
<v Speaker 1>met a woman tonight and we could have had sex,

0:50:28.920 --> 0:50:31.240
<v Speaker 1>and the next morning she walks out of the streets

0:50:31.239 --> 0:50:33.799
<v Speaker 1>and get hit by a car, it would affect me

0:50:33.960 --> 0:50:36.719
<v Speaker 1>completely different than if I didn't know who that person was.

0:50:39.840 --> 0:50:41.920
<v Speaker 1>It could have been I could have met her at

0:50:41.920 --> 0:50:47.120
<v Speaker 1>the hotel lobby for thirty minutes, and you know what

0:50:47.120 --> 0:50:48.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean. She could have came to my room and

0:50:48.880 --> 0:50:51.439
<v Speaker 1>we had an intimate night together, and she could walk

0:50:51.480 --> 0:50:52.640
<v Speaker 1>outside and get killed.

0:50:53.360 --> 0:50:56.040
<v Speaker 3>That will be stuck on your mind because.

0:50:55.880 --> 0:50:57.680
<v Speaker 2>In a positive way or a negative way.

0:50:58.000 --> 0:51:02.640
<v Speaker 1>In a negative way, okay, yeah you will, Peters Christy,

0:51:03.080 --> 0:51:07.759
<v Speaker 1>I just caught that you will feel something because that

0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:12.480
<v Speaker 1>physical intimate connection creates a different type of bond, and

0:51:13.320 --> 0:51:16.440
<v Speaker 1>people are not recognizing that connection when it comes to

0:51:16.520 --> 0:51:17.480
<v Speaker 1>war women.

0:51:17.400 --> 0:51:22.480
<v Speaker 3>They just not they are. We couldn't get them to

0:51:22.520 --> 0:51:23.640
<v Speaker 3>admit that they like.

0:51:23.719 --> 0:51:27.680
<v Speaker 1>What's wrong with saying you love the person who delivered

0:51:27.719 --> 0:51:29.680
<v Speaker 1>your lineage onto the planet.

0:51:30.920 --> 0:51:33.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't care if y'all just met one day at

0:51:33.480 --> 0:51:37.000
<v Speaker 3>a club and you got this lady pregnant. How could

0:51:37.040 --> 0:51:40.839
<v Speaker 3>you not fix your mouth to say you love the

0:51:40.880 --> 0:51:46.360
<v Speaker 3>person who carried and delivered your lineage your future lineage

0:51:46.360 --> 0:51:48.760
<v Speaker 3>on a planet Earth? People? Is crazy?

0:51:49.640 --> 0:51:53.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, But then it goes again into what's a person's

0:51:53.640 --> 0:51:57.120
<v Speaker 4>moral code? What's their value system? You know you have

0:51:57.200 --> 0:52:03.000
<v Speaker 4>to look at you know, if a person for a

0:52:03.080 --> 0:52:12.080
<v Speaker 4>person to take the life of someone and you dress

0:52:12.120 --> 0:52:18.400
<v Speaker 4>it up as it was required because of your street

0:52:18.480 --> 0:52:22.799
<v Speaker 4>code or something they said or something they did, then

0:52:22.840 --> 0:52:27.360
<v Speaker 4>that goes into again, what is your value system on

0:52:27.440 --> 0:52:30.399
<v Speaker 4>the life of others? Do you believe that it's your

0:52:30.440 --> 0:52:35.279
<v Speaker 4>appointed job? To go into a neighborhood and take the

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<v Speaker 4>life of others who are from an alternate street. Do

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<v Speaker 4>you are you okay with that? Some people are okay

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<v Speaker 4>with that, And so some people don't see you know,

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<v Speaker 4>women as you know, where there is my mother. I

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<v Speaker 4>respect this woman because I have a mother. I respect

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<v Speaker 4>this woman because I have a sister or all holes

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<v Speaker 4>or holes and that some people have that that belief,

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<v Speaker 4>so they won't see women. And I love my mom.

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<v Speaker 4>But then you got the hoes out here, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Then there's some people who just because I respect my mother,

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<v Speaker 4>I respect other women because I respect my father. I

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<v Speaker 4>respect men. And that's where we have That's where we

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<v Speaker 4>have the issue because people don't it's their value system.

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<v Speaker 4>I said. It just throws me how there is there

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<v Speaker 4>are women who can have children with a man and

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<v Speaker 4>say she hates the man. But has you know, given

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<v Speaker 4>birth to his child, seize his child every day, knows

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<v Speaker 4>that his DNA resides throughout this child, and you still

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<v Speaker 4>say you hate him. So mentally, what's going on? Because

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<v Speaker 4>that should really bother you that you can say and

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<v Speaker 4>not look at you hate a part of your child.

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<v Speaker 4>You separated the man. But that's a part of your child.

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<v Speaker 4>That man is a part of your child. So if

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<v Speaker 4>you but because people won't also be accountable for the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that they've been with people that they don't know

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<v Speaker 4>and they don't like. We approached we talked about it

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<v Speaker 4>like men, and people showed traits about themselves that we

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<v Speaker 4>say that, oh, you know, we brush them off, but

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<v Speaker 4>until we're stuck with them. Now it's an issue. And

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<v Speaker 4>that's why you can't really get someone to support women

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<v Speaker 4>when they say, oh, you know, all men are not

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<v Speaker 4>all men are horrible. You're horrible because your choice and

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<v Speaker 4>who you choose to be with and who you like.

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<v Speaker 4>That's your personal issue. You need to work on that,

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<v Speaker 4>not all men as a whole. We don't know all

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<v Speaker 4>the men, so why would you say all men are horrible?

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<v Speaker 1>And looking out for tuning into the No Salers podcast,

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah