1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind from how Stuff 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. 3 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Julie Douglass. Julie, 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: have you ever seen or read Peter Benchley's The Deep? 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: I've not, but I know of it. Yeah, the movie 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: had I think Nicknoledy in it, Speedos or something Better Days. Yeah, 7 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: it is Better Days day. But um, but as I 8 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: recall that, the plot is basically, um, everyone gets excited 9 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: because there's like a World War two vessel uh shipwreck 10 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: all right down there on the sea floor, and it's 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: just loaded with morphine. So people are like, hey, let's 12 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: go down and get that morphine and then sell it 13 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: and we'll be rich. Or maybe they're just really into morphine. 14 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. But but then the thing is underneath 15 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: that shipwreck, there's a second shipwreck. It's like an old 16 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: like Spanish galleon filled with gold. And then but then 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: there's more under that. There's a third shipwreck, and that 18 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: is an old has tech vessel and it's filled with 19 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: silver and uh and like and like other treasures. And 20 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: then underneath that there's a fourth wreck and this one's 21 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: actually an alien spaceship that Nick Nolty is able to 22 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: dive down to and bear he discovers his long lost father, 23 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: who is Culo. Right, So spoilers abound there and then 24 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: shows up and then the cracking shows up, but the 25 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: Nautilus comes to the rescue. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is 26 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: not always the way. Yeah yeah, I mean, if you 27 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: guys haven't figured out we're talking about today, we are 28 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: talking about the ocean and all the tritus that lives 29 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: in there. Yeah, because we don't. We hear a fair 30 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: amount about sunken treasure ships every now and then. It's 31 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: like it's great, uh, you know, boys, life, pirate adventure, fair. 32 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: But the reality is there is we have dropped a 33 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: lot of stuff onto the ocean floor, and and it's 34 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: not all just like you know that. You also see 35 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: stuff about like oh a ship, a ship sinks and 36 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: it becomes a natural environment for fish, it becomes a 37 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: new coral reef for something. And you see situations where 38 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: people take these stripped vessels out and sink them so 39 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: that the various forms of sea lift can make it home. 40 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: But in reality, you have a whole lot of ships 41 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: that have gone down with oil aboard with unexploded ordinance aboard, 42 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: well with with human lives aboard as well, not that 43 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: that's as much of an environmental factor at all, right, 44 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: but some some areas are essentially in underwater graveyards, right, Yeah, 45 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: So in this podcast, we're going to talk about these 46 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: sunken dangers and what they what they mean for the environment. Yeah, 47 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: and not only that, um, you know, how they how 48 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: they affect the oceans, which we have like even like 49 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: the most minutest understanding about right now, and we'll talk 50 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: about more about that later. But this really is something 51 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: that's very important to our existence. So let's talk about 52 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: those tankers. Yeah, so stinking tankers. A lot of this 53 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: originates from the Second World War. In first and foremost, 54 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: it's it's easy for those of us who grew up 55 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: for years and years decades after the Second War War 56 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: to forget that this was a truly global scenario. This 57 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: was a major deal. Like like nations around the world 58 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: became immersed in total warfare. And I think my battleship 59 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: is just not the cry of a board game, right right. 60 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: It was. WARAR two was the single largest saw the 61 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: single largest loss of shipping in a relatively short period 62 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: of time that the world has ever witnessed to. To 63 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: put some numbers on that, I have some stats here 64 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: that come from Sea Australia, which is an organization that 65 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: has concerned itself with the fate of these various vessels 66 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: and their potential impact in the environment. They said, seventy 67 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: eight hundred sunken World War two vessels worldwide, including eight 68 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty oil tankers, and they've been setting there 69 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: in many cases, you know, in the bottom of the 70 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: sea floor for sixty years or more seventy I guess 71 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: now we're looking at um just corroding Asia Pacific Regional 72 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: Loan thirteen million tons of sunken vessels in the Pacific, 73 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: including three hundred and thirty tankers and oilers, and then Atlantic, 74 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: Mediterranean and Indian Ocean somewhere in the neighborhood of three thousand, 75 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: nine hundred and fifty vessels over a thousand tons of 76 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: ship and nine of those are thought to be oil tankers. 77 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: Because you have you have ships sinking each other, of submarines, 78 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: you have you have stuff just going down due to 79 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: weather or other factors, and the state that these vessels 80 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: go down there, it varies, you know, because in some 81 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: cases they're sustaining damage before they go down. Stuff is 82 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: blowing up before they go down. H So they're they're 83 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: not exactly tightly wrapped containers. In some cases, the oil 84 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: is burning off in the explosion, or most of it is. 85 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: In other cases, a vessel is hit in such a 86 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: way that most of the oil may be intact and 87 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: it just goes down there and and it's just sitting 88 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: until that container that it's in, that that metal container 89 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: finally deteriorates enough for it to leak out into the 90 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: surrounding environment. Well. Of note recently is the s S Montebello, 91 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: which was sunk by Japanese submarine seventy years ago off 92 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: the coast of central California. Three million gallons of oil 93 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: loaded onto the vessel before it departed on December one, 94 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: and it now sits nine hundred feet below in frigid 95 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: ocean water. It looks like, based on what has been 96 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: released from the survey, and it looks like there's there's 97 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: no oil down there, so really okay, yeah, yeah, it 98 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: looks like there was some concern because this was definitely 99 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: one of those cases where they they thought that like 100 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: the portion of the ship that was hit was was 101 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: not the portion with the oil, so they thought that 102 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: the oil could be intact. But it looks like the 103 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,799 Speaker 1: oil is gone now, so thank you, Robert Lamb. Yeah, 104 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: but but that's just one case out of many. And 105 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: you have to have another factor to remember here is 106 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: that we don't have a countdown for how long any 107 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: of these vessels have because because on top of their 108 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: conditions varying depending on the model of the ship and 109 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: the conditions that it's sank under, you have environmental concerns 110 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, And I mean the thing is too 111 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: is that this is uh as you As you noted, 112 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: there are eight hundred and sixty second oil tankers and 113 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: so this is not new news to anybody. And in fact, 114 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: there's another ship that's ink in nineteen fifty three near 115 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: San Francisco called the s S. Jacob Lukembach, and it 116 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: slowly leaked some of the four seventy five thousand gallons 117 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: of oil that freighter was carrying um and it fouled 118 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: that coast for decades. So you know, this is again 119 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: not new news, but I think that it's one of 120 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: those things that people are starting to back up and 121 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: realize to the extent to which it could be damaging. 122 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: After all these eventually, any shipwreck, I mean, it's going 123 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: to deteriorate to the to the to the state where 124 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: stuff is gonna leak out, right, if there's something in 125 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: there to leak. Uh. And and and then also you have 126 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: cases where if something sinks in a into deep enough water, 127 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna have pressure that's going to crunch the hole 128 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: down even more so, so a number of people are 129 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: keeping trying to keep tabs on on on some of 130 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: these tankers and uh, and try and evaluate what kind 131 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: of a threat they pose, and in some cases something 132 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: can be done about it. In two thousand three, the U. S. 133 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: Navy successfully extracted fuel from a sunken World War two 134 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: tanker off the coast of Micronesia, and they were actually 135 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: able to recoup some of the costs by reselling the salvage. Doi. Okay, 136 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: so yeah, there are some cases where we can do 137 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: something about it. But what do you do about the 138 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: radioactive waste dumping? Right? Yes, radioactive shipwrecks were in many 139 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: cases submarine rex There have been several of these of note, 140 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: cases where a nuclear submarine or a submarine with you know, 141 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: with nuclear capabilities, has sunk to the bottom of the ocean. 142 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: Nineteen sixty three USS Thrasher off the coast of New England, 143 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: UM n U S S Scorpion lost in the mid Atlantic. 144 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: And then you've seen several different Soviet subs nineteen seventy 145 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: November Class sub off the coast of Spain, eighty six 146 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: off the coast of Ramuda, eighty nine off the coast 147 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: of Norway, and then in two thousand of the Kursk 148 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: again off the coast of Norway. Yeah. Yeah, And then 149 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: you have the problem of Russia dumping radioactive waste into 150 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: the Arctic Sea. UM while there have been some contested 151 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: x because of course you've got um, you know, Russia 152 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: saying no, this is not the case. And then you 153 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: have other independent groups that have uh actually confirmed some 154 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: of the data. What we do know for sure is 155 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: that in the nineteen fifties the effluent from the nuclear 156 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: weapons factory in there Chadovinsk was dumped into the river 157 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: Ticha and it ended up in the Arctic Ocean. And 158 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: then between nineteen sixty four and nineteen eighty six, some 159 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: seven thousand tons of solid radioactive waste in sixteen hundred 160 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: cubic meters of liquid waste was pitched into the car 161 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: and Barren Sea from the base in Murmansk, which served 162 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: the Soviet fleet um of nuclear powered naval and merchant ships. So, 163 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: and you have also nuclear reactors from at least eighteen 164 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: nuclear uh excuse me that eighteen nuclear reactor submarines and 165 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: ice breakers which were dumped into the barren Sea in 166 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: an entire nuclear sub which was sunk deliberately after an 167 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: accident in May nineteen sixty eight. So just this is 168 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: a very sort of scary area to be in, obviously, 169 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: and a lot of its neighbors are not very happy 170 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: that in Norway fishing industry obviously, I was like, hey, 171 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: I think, could we get a little bit more information, 172 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: but this is what we know now, But some of 173 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 1: this has been leaking out. Yeah, no pun intended, right. 174 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: But another thing that's interesting about both the radioactive and 175 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: the the oil based threats here or that they kind 176 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: of feel like they're like the ghosts of a previous 177 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: age that have come back to haunt us. In the 178 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: case of the World War two vessels, they're like the 179 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: remnants of a time when so many of the nations 180 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: of the Earth were immersed in in global warfare, and 181 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: certainly we we haven't gotten to the point where we 182 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: have completely put aside the idea of of nuclear weapons. 183 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: But it's worth noting that the scorpion, again this was 184 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: and it's sunk under ten thousand feet of water about 185 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: four hundred miles southwest of Azarez, and uh, it had 186 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: to mark forty five anti submarine torpedoes. Those are nuclear torpedoes. 187 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: They were designed by the United States to use against 188 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: high speed, deep diving enemy submarines, which I mean, for 189 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: those of you who keep up with the history of 190 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: of nuclear armaments, that may make more sense to you, 191 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: but for me, I somehow did not realize that. I mean, 192 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: I knew that, you know, submarines have traditionally been given 193 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: the role of of of becoming a mobile platform from 194 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: which the launch intercontinental ballistic missiles and and deliver a 195 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: nuclear payload from anywhere around the world virtually. But the 196 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: idea that you could have one submarine using a nuclear 197 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: weapon against another submarine in the same ocean as itself 198 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: just completely blows my mind. Uh. I mean, it's just 199 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 1: that that we were, that we've been that stupid and 200 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: in in in recent memory. You know, well, I think too. 201 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: I mean some of this is that, um, you know, 202 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: at the time that this was being enacted, that we 203 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: were not really uh thinking about the future. Right, We're 204 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: thinking seventy years from now, what's going to happen to this? Um? 205 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: And I don't think that we have the understanding that 206 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: we do now of the oceans are at least the 207 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: tiny understanding of of what how important ocean life is 208 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: to us, right and with the with the with the 209 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: tankers and all the various vessels that were lost in 210 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: the Second re War. I mean a lot of that 211 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: was the war is going on. We gotta get stuff 212 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: from point A to point B, defeat some troops. Gets 213 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: get oil from point A to point B to uh 214 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: to fuel these these aircraft these right, right. And not 215 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: only is the uh you know, the oceans, the seas 216 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: are and not only are these uh you know, seemingly 217 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: limitless resources great dumping grounds. To write. Another case it's 218 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: worth mentioning, is the Tybee Island mid air collision. Oh yeah, this, 219 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: and of course Tybee Island is off the coast of 220 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: our you know, real pretty out there coastal region near Brunswick, Georgia, 221 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: which I always remember because a newspaper editor I used 222 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: to work with came from there and journalism jobs. They 223 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: would always have a listing for Brunswick, like they were 224 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: constantly needing new editorial staff, and they always had a 225 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: real fancy right up where they were like, come work 226 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: by the beach, and it made it sound really awesome. 227 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: But of course they were always looking for somebody, so 228 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, man, I bet it really sucks there. 229 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: Well maybe that or they just really needed a lot 230 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: of coverage for the Brunswick chili cookoffs. That's true, right, 231 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: But but Tybee Island though, the fifty eight Air Force 232 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: B forty seven strato jet was on a simulated combat 233 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: mission when it collided with an F eight six Saber 234 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: near Savannah, Georgia, and uh, the B forty seven was 235 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: carrying one Mark fifteen hydrogen bomb without its core at 236 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: the time of the accident. So this nuclear payload is 237 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: lost and has never been found. Like at one point 238 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: they thought they were. They they sort of had an 239 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: idea of where it was based on some radioactive signatures, 240 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: but then they just found that found out that the 241 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 1: radioactive signature wasn't anything substantial, And they're like, well, that's 242 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: not it. We don't know where it is, so it 243 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: could be along at the bottom of the sea or not, 244 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: that's what I'm hearing. Well someone's garage. Well yeah, well, 245 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: I mean if you put it like that, it's maybe not. 246 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: I mean it's down there somewhere, but yeah, but still, 247 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: you know, I mean it's not it could be in 248 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 1: someone's garage. Yeah. Yeah. It's like if someone someone were 249 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: to say, I know I have a musket around the 250 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: house here, but I really don't remember where I put it, 251 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: or you know, it's like where did I put that 252 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: hand grenade? Well, yeah, I mean it's like any sort 253 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: of plot on TV or you know in the movies 254 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: where you've got the gun, the smoking gun, you know, 255 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: I mean that's essentially with that is so uh really giant, 256 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: huge gun. Let's talk about this ocean and why it 257 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: is such a mystery to us and why it's so 258 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: important to us. Well, I mean for starters, it's most 259 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 1: of the planet, yes, and uh, only that it is 260 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: estimated has is unmapped is pretty important. There is actually 261 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: more known about the Moon's surface than the ocean depths, 262 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: so said aquatic filmmaker Fabian costUS. Of course, grandson of 263 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: ocean diving pioneer Jacqusto and Um named his son Fabian. 264 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: What you could say Fabian and prefer Fabian. I don't 265 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: know if you if there's a Fabian out there, let 266 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: us know how you prefer your name to be pronounced um. 267 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: But it's thought that there are some points and where 268 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: the ocean is more than thirty thousand feet deep, Okay, 269 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: And you know they use this analogy that twelve men 270 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: have stepped foot on the Moon, but only two people 271 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: have been to the Mariana Trench, which is the deepest 272 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: part of the ocean at roughly seven miles deep. And 273 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: if you were to take like ship based sonar and 274 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: other measurements, and you were to map such a small 275 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: percentage of the ocean floor, it would take a single 276 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: ship two hundred years or ten ships twenty years to 277 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: measure all the ocean floor depths. And this is according 278 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: to the U. S. Navy. So I bring that up 279 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: only because, um, you know, we really don't understand what 280 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: is beneath the surface of the water. Yeah. And in fact, 281 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: I mean there are things like undersea waterfalls that we've 282 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: recently discovered um lakes tools lebrine pools are particularly interesting 283 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: where it basically it looks this thick layer of of 284 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: of salty water just setting down there on the bottom 285 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: and uh, and it looks like a set like it 286 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: really throws your perception off because it looks like a 287 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: lake on the on the on the floor of the 288 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: ocean like that. There's a slight you know, color and 289 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: gleaming difference. Right, so people, I don't understand how deep 290 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: is that? What is that? What's underneath that? Um So 291 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: there's and then of course extremophiles, which we've learned about 292 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: hydrothermal fence. There are all sorts of really incredible things 293 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: that we have found. And there's this great marine biologist 294 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: named Sylvia Earle, who is, you know, one of the 295 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: two people to have dived down to the depth of 296 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: fifty feet more than fifty years ago. And she says 297 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: that it's absolutely scandalous that we've yet to dive past 298 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: the depths of the ocean skin because that's what she's 299 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: calling in this cyr analogy. And she says that there's 300 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: in fact one little blue green bacterium that's responsible for 301 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: the oxygen in one of every five breaths you take 302 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: the oxygen, which is amazing. And she's saying, this is 303 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: the kind of information that we just didn't know, you know, 304 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: five years, ten years, twenty years ago, how important the 305 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: ocean's ecosystem is to our existence, or sixty or seventy 306 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: years ago when we were sinking ship after ship and 307 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: exactly exact. Yeah, And she was on the panel at 308 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: the World Science Festival in twos and ten, and uh 309 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: there they talked about coral to being the longest living 310 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: organism at four thousand years old and also one of 311 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: the slowest growing organisms, which I think we all know. Um, 312 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: but they're basically saying that the trawlers are scraping the 313 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: bottom of the ocean and clear cutting the coral, which 314 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: we know now is a cornerstone of the ocean's ecosystem. 315 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: So uh, now consider that that statistic about how into 316 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: our action is derived from the ocean, and consider you know, 317 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: how important coral is to see life and how we 318 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: are clear cutting it. And it's very interesting, And they 319 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: make the point in the panel, um, if you were 320 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: to do the same thing to our sky, the same 321 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: sort of trawling through the air. You know, can you 322 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: imagine the sort of wreckage that you would incur. I mean, 323 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: you would scoop up in your nets, you know, some birds, trees, people, cars, 324 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: You would be clear cutting a lot of of life 325 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: in that way. So when you when they put it 326 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: in that perspective, you can really kind of see how 327 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: important it is that we we think differently about the 328 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: ocean and the way we approach it. All right, So 329 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: there you go, sunken dangerous. Yeah, I think about that 330 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: next time you're you're surfing. We're out in the ocean, 331 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: just enjoying the beautiful weather and the scenery. Yeah. Uh, well, 332 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: hey robot, why don't you bring us some listener mail 333 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: and we'll get to that portion of the episode. See 334 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: what we have here, all right, we heard from a 335 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: listener by the name of Corey. Corey writes in and 336 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: Corey's email was was rather lengthy, so we're kind of 337 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: skipping around in it. Yeah, very interesting, but a bit 338 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: too long for reading all of it. And this comes 339 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: off we did the episode about martyrs in which we 340 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: were talking about um about pain, relationship with pain, and uh, 341 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: we didn't really go much into the idea. I think 342 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: we just briefly mentioned, Oh yeah, there are people that 343 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: are straight edge. I wonder how that factors. But into it, 344 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 1: straight edge individuals, of course, they don't take drugs or alcohol, 345 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: and they kind of have a make it part of 346 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:18,959 Speaker 1: their their lifestop choice, and they're going to avoid these temptations, right, 347 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: even if you know, obviously something that that stopped short 348 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: of death. Right, they're going to try to avoid any 349 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 1: sort of medications. And so I was curious. I figured, hey, 350 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: we probably have some straight edge listeners out there. I mean, 351 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: just based on our demographic and our number of listeners, 352 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: that stood reason that they were there listening. And they 353 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: were because Corey writes in says, Hello, Robert and Julie. 354 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: First off, love you guys. Keep doing what it is 355 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: you do so well. Now, in regard to your question 356 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: about a correlation between being straight edge and pain tolerance, 357 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: I can't speak to any case studies or anything, but 358 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 1: my my personal experience being straight edge might imply a 359 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: greater pain tolerance. Um. They and they. Corey points out 360 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: that the they say, for the majority of my life, 361 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: I was very strictly a straight edge. Uh. When I 362 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: was three, I suffered a serious concussion that fractured my 363 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 1: skull and left me unconscious for the better part of 364 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: two days. In the aftermath of this injury, I suffered 365 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: headaches for close to a decade and have more than 366 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: my fair share of them today. I have had several 367 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: broken bones, frostbite real Minnesota frostbite where your flesh turns 368 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: black and dyes, fractures, uh, wildly painful cysts, and migrains, 369 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: to name a few of my great epics in pain tolerance. 370 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: It seems to me people go to a great deal 371 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: of effort to avoid pain, but in reality, pain has 372 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: little to no consequence. It is not like emotional trauma 373 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: that can haunt you for decades and decades. Pain hit, 374 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: it hurts, and it's forgotten almost as fast as it comes. 375 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: In fact, it's really hard to relive a physical pain, 376 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: So why do people try to try so hard to 377 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: avoid it or even fear it so much? Also, I 378 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: have a close friend whom is who is straight edge. UH. 379 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: This guy has a pain tolerance. We go rock climbing 380 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: together and and I'm frequently amazed at how long he 381 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: can hold very very painful holks. I have seen him 382 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: support his entire weight on a finger jam which is 383 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: essentially jamming your fingers into a crack in the rock 384 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: and getting into stick. Some finger jams are not that 385 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: big a deal, but this particular finger jam was in 386 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: a place where the rocks were very sharp and not 387 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: well suited to finger jamming. It's the sort of finger 388 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: jam that rips the skin and uh leaves a little 389 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: indented cuts where the rock digs in. And this guy 390 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: practically did a one hand pull up with just the 391 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: support of that fingerjam. He is crazy tough, trust me. 392 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 1: In conclusion, I wonder if having a low paint tolerance 393 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: may actually be a contributing factor in the body chemistry 394 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: that leads to addiction or vice versa. Maybe the body 395 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: chemistry that supports high paint tolerance has an effect which 396 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 1: reduces to the draw to substances that alter physiological states. 397 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: Because I just prefer sober Corey to alter Corey for 398 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: no other fact than I can't imagine a me that's 399 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: better than I already am. What do you guys think, Well, 400 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: that's a very positive way to look at it. Yeah, yeah, 401 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 1: I like that actually moved me than I already Yeah, 402 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: I had never thought about that. In terms of alcohol 403 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: or drug use, or anything like that. They're altering yourselves 404 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: even with say caffeine. Right. Um, So I don't know. 405 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: He makes an interesting point. I was just thinking about. Uh. 406 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I had a drug free, epidural free birth, 407 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: and I'm not going to say that it was you know, 408 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 1: a cake walk or anything, but it's not something that 409 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: it's not a pain that haunts me. Um. Of course 410 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: I have you know, positive emotions about it because it 411 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: was worth my daughter, so I haven't attached it to 412 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: sort of negative consequences, but you know, it's not something 413 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: I try to relive or uh. And it was momentarian 414 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: and gone. So it's it's interesting. I've been fortunate to 415 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: not have too many pain based encounter but I find 416 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: that like the few things that I have suffered, like 417 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: you know, like you know, cutting myself, stopping vegetables and that, 418 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: well paper cuts too much, lesser extent, but but they 419 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 1: the thing that makes me WinCE when I think about 420 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: them is thinking about, like WHOA, I was kind of 421 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: careless when it was cutting up a potata. That's why 422 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: I cut myself. Imagine had I could have the cut 423 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: been deeper, Imagine if I hit you know, my wrist 424 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: or something instead of my palm, So it tends to 425 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: be that kind of thing for me. Well, also, chronic 426 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: pain is really debilitating for people to and that that 427 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: enters into a different territory where you have to sort 428 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: of feedback loop with your body, which would probably be 429 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: really interesting territory for us to get into it. At 430 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: the point of the podcast, we did do one a minute, 431 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: we did, but what we haven't really talked about the 432 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: feedback loop and um, it's sort of just you know, 433 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: when we have long term pain, um, and how you 434 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: can actually some doctors say you can reroute at can 435 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: you can stop that feedback loop? Okay, well yeah, I know, 436 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: I know we touched on it before, but yeah, maybe 437 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: we should do a more in depth look at it. 438 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: In any case, Thank you, cor Yeah, yeah, you know, 439 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: that's exactly the kind of feedback I was looking for, 440 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: just you know, to see what people that have this 441 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 1: particular view on life and pain, or or specifically on 442 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: on drugs and alcohol, what their take on pain is. 443 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: So so thanks for writing it. And if you would 444 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: like to share something with us, how can you go 445 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: about it? 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