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Speaker 1: Hi. Everyone, Welcome to Mother Knows. I'm here with Maria

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Speaker 1: and we are going to get started with our story

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Speaker 1: of the week.

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Speaker 2: So our featured story this week is all about Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure everybody's extremely irritated hearing her name with the

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Speaker 2: pop culture phenomenon happening right now with her.

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Speaker 1: Wait, can I just cut you off for a second.

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Speaker 1: So obviously, like I was just like intrigued by their

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Speaker 1: relationship in the beginning, So I read a couple stories

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Speaker 1: and now my entire algorithm is just stories about Travis

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Speaker 1: Kelsey and Tyler Swift all the time. It seriously is

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Speaker 1: so annoying.

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Speaker 2: I mean, really, I don't mind it. I think he's

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Speaker 2: a very attractive person, so I don't mind seeing his

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Speaker 2: pretty nice family. We talked about them a little bit

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Speaker 2: last week. Anyway, this is not your standard Taylor Swift

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Speaker 2: story because it actually has everything to do with us.

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Speaker 2: So she was she brought her eras tour internationally. She

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Speaker 2: was playing in Rio de Jannio in Brazil on Friday evening,

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Speaker 2: and in this area they were reaching record breaking heat wave.

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Speaker 2: They were saying that the temperatures reached around one hundred

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Speaker 2: and four degrees, but some were saying it felt between

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Speaker 2: the humidity index and everything around one hundred and forty degrees.

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Speaker 2: I can't even fathom that. So it was really hot.

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Speaker 2: You could even see in videos taken of her singing

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Speaker 2: that she's almost gasping for air, which I can't even

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Speaker 2: imagine performing being in a situation that hot. But one

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Speaker 1: One hundred million dollars, could could you imagine doing it? Then?

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Speaker 2: I could deal.

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Speaker 1: Of course, all of a sudden, it want to feel

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Speaker 2: Right exactly, But all of a sudden, one of the

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Speaker 2: So this has been kind of a crazy situation because

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Speaker 1: Well, there's been news reports that they were not letting

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Speaker 1: people bring water into the stadium, which is a huge

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Speaker 1: So if it gets too cold and you can get hypothermia,

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Speaker 1: about this, obviously, I did. I also heard reports that

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Speaker 1: reminds me of another story of that we did a

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Speaker 1: It's it's just scary when you have a large volume

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't imagine she feels good. I feel like

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Speaker 2: well being on like a lot of people that just.

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Speaker 1: that he felt too bad about that. Well didn't see Yeah,

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Speaker 1: It was disgustingly hot. And then the whole time I

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Speaker 1: with those disc right lights and everything. Well, that's another

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Speaker 1: thing that they were saying about this show was that

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Speaker 1: and you could see that. I mean, when you went

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Speaker 1: just it's very hard to be in control of a

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, And I just think the venue in Brazil

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Speaker 2: band I understand people can sneak in alcohol, and.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they care about alcohol. They more

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Speaker 1: care about like terrorism stuff, I'm sure, which which is understandable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally understand that we just have to kind

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you watched that Woodstock ninety nine

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Speaker 1: But they had I was busy, exhausting girl at that time,

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's get onto some juicy celebrity gossip.

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Speaker 2: Okay. Our first story is, I can't even believe we're

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Speaker 2: Kim Kardashian's new ailment. I can't even pronounce this coxid what?

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Speaker 1: She's saying that she has pain in her lower back

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Speaker 1: slash but and she thinks she has a condition called coccidonia.

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Speaker 1: very clear to me. I can't believe no one's brought

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Speaker 1: this up. A big specimen that we get in surgical

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Speaker 1: It really puts people in pain on muscular skeletal pain.

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Speaker 1: And I also did an autopsy once on an obese

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Speaker 1: but it's not. It's not a joke. Cocxidiny is more

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Speaker 1: and that's why she's having pain. So, Kim, if you're listening,

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Speaker 1: it's because your ass is big.

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Speaker 2: I just I don't know. I saw this headline of

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Speaker 2: reading this article, and I'm like, they seriously have nothing

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Speaker 2: to contribute. Their show's not doing well. They are just

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Speaker 2: doing every nothing burger to try to get their name

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Speaker 2: but I think this show is not working out and

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Speaker 2: the way they wanted it to, and we're just going

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Speaker 2: to keep seeing these dumb little articles trickling in.

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Speaker 1: It is dumb, but I think it's worth I think

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Speaker 1: it's worth mentioning because that's it. It is a thing

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Speaker 1: you to get seriously ill or die. So yeah, and

436
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Speaker 1: this is the part of the story that I think

437
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,479
Speaker 1: you're being a little nice, because when I read it,

438
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: I was just like Jesus, these people need to Like

439
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 1: there was so many warnings and she kept blowing it off.

440
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 1: The biggest being like one friend has a headache, okay, whatever,

441
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 1: people get headaches, but then the other one gets a headache.

442
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 1: You should be like, all right, something's a little weird.

443
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 1: But then when your carbon monoxide detector goes off, I

444
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: understand those things are annoying because actually that happened. I

445
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: was like a week ago, like ours started going off

446
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night. But I guess the

447
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 1: battery was going dead, but like you get it. But

448
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: she just completely blew off all of the signs that

449
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 1: were telling her something was wrong. Turned off the carbon

450
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 1: monoxide detector. It came back on when she plugged it in,

451
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Speaker 1: so there's another warning sign. Still didn't really understand what

452
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Speaker 1: was going on, and then one of the friends was like,

453
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Speaker 1: I think we should call nine one one, and they

454
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Speaker 1: did and they brought them to So the firefighters come

455
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: in and they check and they could tell that the

456
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Speaker 1: carbon monoxide levels high, and they brought her to the

457
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Speaker 1: hospital and her carbon dioxer level was like carbon monoxide

458
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Speaker 1: level was around seventeen percent. So in like in you

459
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Speaker 1: you or me, our carbon monoxide level would be like

460
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Speaker 1: less than two or three percent. Smokers sometimes they always

461
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 1: have like a higher level because they in how carbon

462
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 1: monoxide all the time. But I mean anything like if

463
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: it gets to twenty, you're it's considered serious illness. So

464
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Speaker 1: she's she's pretty close there to having serious carbon monoxide poisoning.

465
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Speaker 1: And what happens is when you breathe in carbon monoxide

466
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: with oxygen, when it goes onto your cells that normally

467
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Speaker 1: bring oxygen to all your organs, that carbon monoxide doesn't

468
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Speaker 1: let the oxygen get the molecule get released to go

469
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Speaker 1: into your organs, and it causes severe symptoms, which it

470
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Speaker 1: starts off with a headache. You always hear about that,

471
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Speaker 1: but it could lead to coma death. It's an asphyxial death.

472
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Speaker 1: And we wrote about that last year. Remember when all

473
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Speaker 1: of the when a couple of those people died on

474
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Speaker 1: their vacation in the Bahamas, and it turns out that

475
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 1: it was from a carbon monoxide leak. So yeah, the

476
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Speaker 1: hookah itself is when you have something like that lit

477
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Speaker 1: indoors for multiple hours. That's exactly what happened. It's it's scary,

478
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Speaker 1: but I guess regular people just don't think about that

479
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Speaker 1: kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: No, thanks for explaining that, because I just the way

481
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Speaker 2: in which the story was written. I was like, okay,

482
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Speaker 2: there seemingly blaming the hookah, but also not directly saying

483
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Speaker 2: it was that. And I, as a non scientist, don't

484
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 2: understand how this could happen. And I think this is

485
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 2: a really good I don't personally know anybody that smokes

486
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 2: the hugah, but I think this is a really good

487
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Speaker 2: warning to a lot of young people that are inclined

488
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Speaker 2: to do it and making sure that you have if

489
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Speaker 2: you are going to do you have proper ventilation, taking

490
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Speaker 2: all the proper steps. You have to remember too, that

491
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Speaker 2: they were really intoxicated when all the signals started going off,

492
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Speaker 2: So yeah, you have to think that's really scary. So

493
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Speaker 2: at least this didn't end in tragedy and they all

494
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Speaker 2: ended up being okay.

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Speaker 1: Well. I think that there's always this thing that people

496
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Speaker 1: are always trying to find these safer alternatives to smoking,

497
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: and one of them is there's buzz that the hookah

498
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 1: is safer because you're breathing it out of a water

499
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 1: pipe and people have been doing it for centuries, but

500
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Speaker 1: it's not safe for multiple reasons. Number one, you're still

501
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 1: breathing in car. When you burn any chemical and you

502
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: breathe it in, it changes the composition of that chemical

503
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Speaker 1: and it could become a carcinogen, so it could be

504
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: a carcinogen number one, and number two, the carbon monoxide

505
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Speaker 1: Now we're gonna get started with violent crimes. This week

524
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: is especially weird because all of them involve young kids.

525
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Speaker 2: So this first story we have in this section is

526
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Speaker 2: about this kid that's now eighteen. His name's Jeremy Goodale.

527
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Speaker 2: When he was sixteen years old November twenty twenty one,

528
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: him and his friend devised a plan to kill their

529
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Speaker 2: sixty six year old teacher because the teacher had given

530
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 2: the friend a bad grade. So the friend has yet

531
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Speaker 2: to be sentenced, but Jeremy has now been sentenced as

532
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Speaker 2: of this week, so he has been sentenced to life

533
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: in prison with the possibility of pearol in twenty five years.

534
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: In Iowa, there's this requirement that if you're convicted of

535
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: first degree murder that you have to be sentenced to

536
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: life in prison without the possibility of pearol. But since

537
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: he was a teenager when it occurred, they're kind of

538
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 2: letting it slip a little, I guess, even though he

539
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: was tried as an adult. I think this story is

540
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: really concerning. The judge was saying, he was clearly showing remorse,

541
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Speaker 2: but still he has to be accountable for his actions.

542
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Speaker 2: And I think it's really terrifying that a sixteen year

543
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 2: old who is so young, just had the foresight to

544
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 2: kill their teacher over a bad grade, just to help

545
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 2: their friend. It wasn't even for him, so it's really scary,

546
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 2: and now his whole life is ruined because of this.

547
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Speaker 1: All Right, we need to talk about what the most

548
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: terrifying part of this story is this week is that

549
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Speaker 1: when this kid was sentenced, this kid that killed his

550
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: teacher with a baseball bat. He started spontaneously bleeding out

551
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Speaker 1: of his nose in the courtroom. Did you see the

552
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: photo of that. It's so eerie to me.

553
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: I did, and is I'm not so familiar with nose

554
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 2: bleeding so that I've never really experienced them in my life.

555
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 2: But could they be triggered by stress?

556
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you if you're stressed out, it's kind of

557
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: a combination of both things. Likely like the kids a

558
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: nosepicker or like rubs his nose a lot if you're stressed,

559
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: so you can kind of rough up the nose by

560
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: doing that and then being really stressed, like something like

561
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Speaker 1: figuring out where you're going to be spending the rest

562
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: of your life, for the rest you know whatever. This

563
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: sentence is that he was about to get his blood

564
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: pressure and heart rate probably went really high, which would

565
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: just increase the risk of bleeding to a car. So

566
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: that's probably what happened, like a combination of nose trauma

567
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,959
Speaker 1: and also stress. But yeah, it's just there was something

568
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: like really really eerie about it, you know what I mean,

569
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Speaker 1: Because you always have to think, like what's going on

570
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: in the mind of a young person's that wants to

571
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,479
Speaker 1: kill somebody like they that they have these sick thoughts,

572
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: you know, and it just was so creepy to see that.

573
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really disturbing. And even more disturbingly is our

574
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 2: next story about. I'm sure everybody's seen this circulating in

575
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 2: the news for like the past year. I guess right,

576
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 2: this happened earlier this year. So this this six year

577
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: old had brought a gun to school and shot his teacher.

578
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: How scary that he knew to bring it, knew how

579
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Speaker 2: to use it enough to injure another person. The teacher

580
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: fortunately survived. But you want to talk about kind of

581
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: the warning signs leading up to this event, Well.

582
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Speaker 1: Didn't didn't he tell another student like I shot that

583
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: bitch dead or something like something crazy like that. There

584
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: was something about that I remember reading about before. But yeah,

585
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: I mean, the kid this story is just there's so

586
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: many different parts to this story. Obviously, the first question

587
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: is how did this kid get a gun to put

588
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: in his backpack to bring to school? But then the

589
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: kid brought the gun to the backpack to school and

590
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: apparently told other children or showed other children, And there

591
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,479
Speaker 1: were like three other warning signs and nobody did anything

592
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: about it, which is why the teacher who got shot

593
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: is actually suing the school right now, which she should.

594
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent supportive of that. So the next

595
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: part of the investigation is like, how did this kid

596
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: even get a gun? Anyway? So the kid got the

597
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: gun from the mom's house. Apparently she had it stored

598
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Speaker 1: in a closet on a shelf that was far away

599
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: from the kid, but the kid knew where it was

600
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: and got it anyway. And this mom had apparently she

601
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Speaker 1: was under the influence of some kind of drugs or alcohol,

602
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Speaker 1: and she had other run ins with the law with

603
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Speaker 1: gun and substance situations. So I'm not sure what that's

604
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Speaker 1: even about. But she went and got this gun. It

605
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: seems like she tried to get it legally, but she

606
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: lied on her application, you know how you have to

607
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: say if you were ever convicted of this or that.

608
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: And we talked about this with doctor Metzel on an

609
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Speaker 1: external exam we did a couple weeks ago, just about

610
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Speaker 1: the gun laws and everything like that, because in my opinion,

611
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Speaker 1: if this woman already had a history of run ins

612
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Speaker 1: with the law with guns and substances, when she goes

613
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Speaker 1: to try to get another gun, there should be something

614
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Speaker 1: in the system, and they shouldn't be relying on people

615
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Speaker 1: to be like honest and tell the truth about their history.

616
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: So whatever it is they she's gotten convicted of illegally

617
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Speaker 1: purchasing a firearm and she's going to go to jail

618
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Speaker 1: for only twenty one months, and I'm not sure what's

619
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Speaker 1: going to happen with the kid, but her, uh, the

620
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Speaker 1: defense was saying like, her going in jail is just

621
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Speaker 1: going to exacerbate her mental health condition, and I can't

622
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Speaker 1: disagree with that because it probably will. I can't imagine

623
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Speaker 1: that if this family was already so broken that this

624
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: six year old child decided to shoot his teacher and

625
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: the mom was some kind of an addict, that now

626
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Speaker 1: her going to jail and that kid being in wherever

627
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: he's going to be, I don't even know what they do.

628
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Speaker 1: I mean, they can't press charges against a six year old, right,

629
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Speaker 1: so he's going to have to be in the custody

630
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: of the state. I mean, how's he going to be

631
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Speaker 1: any better unless somehow, by like, he gets adopted by

632
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Speaker 1: some family that really loves him and takes care of

633
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Speaker 1: him and gets some extensive therapy or something like. I

634
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: don't even know, but this kid's now a product of

635
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: He's going to be in our society now as an adult.

636
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: I don't even don't I don't even know what the

637
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 1: solution is. It's just such a crazy case.

638
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Speaker 2: So the mom is getting This is newsworthy this week

639
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 2: because the mother is getting twenty one months in jail

640
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: for this case for possessing a firearm while on can

641
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: trolled substances and then lying on the purchasing application. And

642
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: then she has also pled guilty to felony child neglect,

643
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 2: so that sentencing is totally separate, and that won't be

644
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Speaker 2: till December fifteenth. But I don't know how that's gonna go.

645
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 2: As far as if she's gonna be away for longer,

646
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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's gonna work out that if

647
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 2: she only goes to prison for a couple of years,

648
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: is she gonna get custody back of the kid or

649
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 2: is he going to be put in the custody of

650
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Speaker 2: a family member. It's we know how this story goes,

651
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 2: and it's not looking great, and all we could hope

652
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 2: is that this kid is just put in the right

653
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: situation and has some chance at turning around this because

654
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 2: it's not even his fault that all of this happened

655
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: necessarily so little.

656
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: He's a baby baby, it's absolutely not his fault, like

657
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: it's people, the adults around him failed him, and it's

658
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: just sucks.

659
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 2: So another disturbing child case we have is that a

660
00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 2: five year old has fatally stabbed his twin brother. So

661
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 2: they were in a fight, one of them grabbed the

662
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 2: kitchen knife and stabbed the other one.

663
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: It's you know, they've done an investigation and they're not

664
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 1: pressing charges against anyone, and obviously it sucks. But like you,

665
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: if you've ever had a sibling or you are, or

666
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 1: if you watch people with siblings, kids kids really screw,

667
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: can mess each other up, sometimes knock each other's teeth out.

668
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: We actually did a post in the Grosser Room once.

669
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: I feel like it was about a kid that was like,

670
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: wasn't it about a kid that was running through a

671
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,959
Speaker 1: door or something and something happened and his penis got

672
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 1: like chopped off because the sibling like shut the door

673
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: and is on his penis or something. It was something crazy.

674
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: But at the end of the post, I said, does

675
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 1: anyone have any situation where you hurt one of your

676
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: siblings and everyone's got. Anyone that has siblings has a story.

677
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: Like I'll never forget when we were in Disney World

678
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: years ago, my brother was like all up in my

679
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: sister's face, and she grabbed his tongue and like pulled

680
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: it as hard as she could. I mean, it's funny,

681
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: I like to laugh at about this now, But his

682
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: tongue swelled up really bad, and my mom got scared

683
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: that she was gonna have to take him to the

684
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: hospital because like you can you can like block off

685
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: someone's airway with with tongue swelling. It's it's really scary,

686
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: you know. So, I mean, now it's like funny to

687
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: laugh about that, but like, siblings can really mess each

688
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 1: other up. I think that my husband knocked his sister's

689
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: teeth out. You know, it's like this, this just happens, right,

690
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: And obviously, like a kid grabbed the kitchen knife. There's

691
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: no there's no reason that the parents should be charged

692
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 1: because there was a knife in the kitchen. That's normal.

693
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: I just think it's just this. It's just like a sad,

694
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: freaking thing, you know.

695
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely so. Our last story in the second is

696
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 2: all about this woman that fatally poisoned her friend using

697
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: eye drops. So Jesse, Kurt, I can't even say this

698
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 2: last name, and we're Polish, I should know how to

699
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 2: say it. I'm gonna say Jesse thirty. Jesse. Jesse is

700
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 2: a thirty nine year old woman out of Wisconsin. This

701
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,479
Speaker 2: story is so weird. I don't know if you find

702
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 2: it as weird as I do. So five years ago,

703
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 2: she's saying she gave her This is how I'm understanding it.

704
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 2: Five years ago, she calls nine one one because her

705
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: friend is having difficulty bleeding. And her friend is in

706
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: her sixties, So she's telling the cops that she gave

707
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 2: her a water bottle with equivalent of six containers of

708
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: vizine in it, and she didn't think this time was

709
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: going to kill her because the friend always drank vizine

710
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: and she thought her body was used to it. So

711
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 2: I was like, are you trying to play this off

712
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 2: as a my strange addiction type of thing or did

713
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 2: you murder this? And you're acting like she had this

714
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 2: addiction to drinking eye drops?

715
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: Well, Vizine is a drug that people sometimes abuse it.

716
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: There's all this like buzz that it causes, like psycho

717
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: like it almost makes you like trip or something if

718
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: you take it, but it doesn't it just it just

719
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: it kills you if you take it, and it's it's

720
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: very toxic. Actually, only one to two drops of it

721
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: can can be fatal to a child. So it's important

722
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: because if you have a bottle of eye drops and

723
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: a little kid, they don't have like safety lids on

724
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: them and stuff. If a little kid has access to

725
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 1: that and drinks it, that's it's it's a really big deal.

726
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 1: And it's fatal to adults too. But that and another

727
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: thing is is that like people that are that do

728
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: drugs and stuff, they overuse the drops sometimes to mask

729
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: that they are doing drugs because it clears their eyes out.

730
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: But really the chemical that's in it is what it's

731
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: called the vaso constrictor. So when your eyes are red,

732
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: it's because your blood vessels and your eyes are like

733
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: open and they're engorged and you see blood through them.

734
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: So the vaso constrictor makes the blood vessels smaller in

735
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: the eye. But if you eat it, it also makes

736
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: your blood vessels and your body constrict as well. And

737
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: you don't want the blood vessels around your heart your

738
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: cornary arteries to constrict because that's gonna constrict blood flow

739
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: to your heart. Were the ones in your neck to

740
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: constrict blood flow to your brain? So it's it's toxic.

741
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: And I it is possible that the lady was taking

742
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: basiline or a vizine as a drug, but it just

743
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: when you hear the story of like this girl was

744
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: like a daughter to her and she was about to

745
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: get a huge insurance payout, it seems more likely that

746
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: she poisoned her with it.

747
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, her defense, Jesse's defense, was that really pushing this

748
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 2: suicide narrative, Like she she knew what she was doing,

749
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 2: She knew it was a fatal dose taking this, but

750
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 2: she took it all the time, so it kind of

751
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: hands off situation. But yeah, it came out that she

752
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 2: was a beneficiary of hers and even though she was

753
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: pushing this suicide narrative, the jury certainly was not going forward.

754
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 2: So she is guilty of two counts of fellony, theft

755
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: and for stealing from the woman. So this is really

756
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 2: really sad and scary. And we are gonna have an

757
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 2: interview coming up about with somebody that writes about poisonings.

758
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 2: And I think something really interesting in her book, which

759
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,439
Speaker 2: she said the difference that the difference between what makes

760
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: it a poison is the dose necessarily, right, So we

761
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: have all these everyday household objects and the only thing

762
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 2: that makes them regular to poison is just the amount

763
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 2: we're consuming or accidentally given or somebody's purposely giving us

764
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 2: to end our life. So I think that's a really

765
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 2: interesting point to bring up with this totally. So onto medical,

766
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 2: do you want to talk about this story that happened

767
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 2: at this hospital? Because I don't a lot of the

768
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: stories this week, you're really confusing me, and I don't know.

769
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: This story actually confuses me too. So there's a hospital

770
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: in Massachusetts, Salem, Massachusetts that came out this week and

771
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: said that over the past two years, patients that have

772
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: been going and getting endoscopy, so, which is when they

773
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,959
Speaker 1: stick a camera inside of you to check to see

774
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: people get them all the time. They're checking to see

775
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: if you have any problems with your esophagus or your stomach.

776
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: I actually had one like three or four weeks ago, so,

777
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: which is scary because you just trust the place that

778
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 1: you're going to. And they're saying that over four hundred

779
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: and fifty patients have possibly been exposed to hepatitis B,

780
00:42:55,320 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 1: hepatitis C, or HIV. So my first thought with that

781
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: is how because they clean the endoscopies every single time

782
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: they use them in between patients, that would be that

783
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: was my first thought, Like, Okay, it's coming from the scope.

784
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: They're not cleaning the scopes correctly, but they're saying it

785
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: had something to do with put when they put the

786
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: IV medications in, saying quote, in a matter not consistent

787
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: with our best practice. So I texted my friend Annette,

788
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 1: who's a nurse, to say, like, you put in ivs

789
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: all the time, Like, I don't really understand. I don't

790
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: understand because everything is separate, Like how in order for

791
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: there to be a risk, it has to be like

792
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: you're using a needle from one person and sticking it

793
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: in another person. So we're just trying to figure out,

794
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 1: like like how this exactly happened, and they're not really

795
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: saying exactly how it happened. I just don't know where

796
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 1: the cross contamination occurred. But it's still it's still really scary.

797
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 2: They're not saying what yeah, and they're not saying what's happening,

798
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: and they're saying it was brought to their attention earlier

799
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: this year. So I'm thinking this is really sounding familiar

800
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: again with the Good Nurse situation and what happened with

801
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 2: Charlie Cullen. He was contaminating drip bags. So did they

802
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: have somebody on staff that they were made aware was

803
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 2: contaminating the drip bags or contaminating the equipment. I don't know.

804
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 2: I think this is a really unusual case and everything

805
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 2: you just explained it just doesn't even add up how

806
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: these people would have exposure to this.

807
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: I could say, I could say it with the medications, though,

808
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: but how would you because heppie hepsi HIV their blood

809
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: borne pathogen, So what are how is some patient's blood

810
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: getting exposed to another person or getting biopsies or something

811
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: like you could see so like I had biopsies taken

812
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: when I had my endoscopy. So they stick these little

813
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 1: like clippers in down there and they cut a piece off.

814
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: But sometimes you bleed a little bit. You could say, Okay,

815
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: that's where the blood source comes from because the typical endoscopy,

816
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: like you wouldn't have access to blood because you're just

817
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: going in the tube and coming out. I don't know

818
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: the whole thing. I don't like it, but I certainly

819
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: believe them when they when they say this, So who

820
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: knows what happened. I hope they eventually tell us so

821
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen in another place. But it's scary that

822
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three that this was happening for two

823
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: years and they're just kind of saying it now. Yeah,

824
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 1: And my favorite part of this is they said they're

825
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: offering free testing to any thing. It's like, like, it

826
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: better fucking be free if you daminated me. Yeah. Oh,

827
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: that that's really nice of you. Thanks a lot? What gee? Thanks?

828
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about other death news.

829
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: Okay, So this story is is kind of wild, so

830
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 2: it I don't know, it's not uncommon apparently. So this

831
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 2: twenty four year old jumped to his death from a

832
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: parking structure in Disneyland. So it is the sixth suicide

833
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: from this parking structure since twenty ten, but the third

834
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 2: since last December. So what do you think that's about?

835
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: People want to die in the happiest place on Earth?

836
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: I guess I was just gonna bring that up. Do

837
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 2: you think there's some psychology behind it? Like I want

838
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 2: to end my life in the happiest quote unquote place

839
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: on Earth.

840
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do for sure. And we so last year,

841
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 1: maybe even two years ago at this point, we wrote

842
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: a high profile death dissection on It was just Disney.

843
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: World, right, Yeah, just Disney World, all the patrol.

844
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, like all the people who have ever died in

845
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: Disney World. It's a really if you're a Disney person,

846
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,919
Speaker 1: you'll love this because we've always heard that they've never

847
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: pronounced the death at Disney. There's like and that's just

848
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: a total lie. There's lots of people that die just

849
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: like having a heart attack, and there's been suicides. There's

850
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: been all sorts of insane things that have happened in

851
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: Disney World. So that was that was really eye opening

852
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: for us researching that particular post. But yeah, I mean

853
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: we've we've been hearing and this happened. I recall it

854
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: happening a couple times in Disney World, and I think

855
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: that this article is specifically speaking to Disneyland. So yeah,

856
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: I think that there's definitely something to it, Like why

857
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: would you go all the way there to do it?

858
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: It's not really easy to get in there, right, and

859
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 1: clearly you're probably planning the suicide.

860
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 2: So yeah, there has to be some weird psychology behind it,

861
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 2: because I can't explain it, because why else would you

862
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: even pay all that money? Yeah, even if you were

863
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 2: gonna die, you can't give it to somebody else.

864
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. But jumping suicides is really is not

865
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: a very common method of suicide. We did a celebrity

866
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: death to section what two.

867
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 2: Weeks ago, two weeks ago on Tesla, Yes, about beauty pageant.

868
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, a recent jumping suicide, and just talked all about

869
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: the statistic involved with that and everything. But really it's

870
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: not common, and it's just sad because Disney World's like

871
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: kind of a place you want to go to.

872
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 2: To escape all of the.

873
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: Horrible things that go on in this world, and you

874
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: certainly don't want to think about, you know, getting your

875
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: coffee in the morning on your way to the park

876
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: and walking with your kid's hand in hand with your

877
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: matching ears on, and then all of a sudden, some

878
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: person like splatters to the sidewalk next to you. It's

879
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: kind of it's a little depressing.

880
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, So onto this next story. This woman had died.

881
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: Her family goes to her funeral. They like, go through

882
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: the regular motions. They go in there, they sign the book,

883
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 2: and as they're approaching it, one of them's like, I

884
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: don't think that's her, And then they get close to

885
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 2: the casket. It's definitely not their family member in the casket.

886
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 2: But the person in the casket is wearing all the

887
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 2: clothes and jewelry that the family had brought for their

888
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 2: deceased person. So they they confronted the funeral director about it,

889
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 2: who was really rude and was like, well, you have

890
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 2: to pay for this all over.

891
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: Again, yeah, and the family and the family was like,

892
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to get us new clothes and a

893
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: new casket because you're not putting like these clothes that

894
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: are on this random dead lady on our family member now,

895
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 1: Like we don't want it. It's kind of gross, which

896
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 1: I kind of agree, like it's it's just kind of skeeve,

897
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: you know. And they did eventually agree to buying new

898
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: clothes for the woman, but they wouldn't they wouldn't budge

899
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: on the casket no, and they put the same ear

900
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: rings on her, which really bothered them. In m Like,

901
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: the most annoying part of this was the publication reached

902
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 1: out for comment and the funeral director said he could

903
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: neither confirm nor deny the happenings at the funeral home. Yeah,

904
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: and this is this is not the first time I've

905
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: seen a story like this. Like, obviously I don't work

906
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 1: in funeral homes. I don't know how often it happens,

907
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: but I'm sure it's the same as in the hospital,

908
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: Like we don't autopsy the wrong person because there's multiple

909
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: checks in place to make sure that this person is

910
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: labeled and that this person looks like this person and

911
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: multiple checkpoints. And I mean at a funeral home, you're

912
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: gonna have the same thing. You might have a refrigerator

913
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: that has two or three people in it, but there

914
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: should definitely be checkpoints to make sure that something like

915
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: this doesn't happen, because this could be very traumatic for

916
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: people too. But their biggest point of this, which I

917
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:36,280
Speaker 1: think is like the public service announcement, is thank god

918
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: they had an open casket, because if they didn't, they

919
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: never even they would have totally been visiting the grave

920
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: of someone that wasn't even their family member and not

921
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: knowing that their family member was who knows where. It's

922
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: kind of.

923
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 2: Scary getting that call. I didn't getting that call. Eventually

924
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 2: that inevitably the other, like, your family member is gonna

925
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 2: turn up in somebody else's casket. Imagine if they.

926
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 1: Closed cast gets and then now you're just like, how

927
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: many times does this happen? Does it happen all the time?

928
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: How would you even know?

929
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm just thinking imagine burying your loved one

930
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 2: and then having the closure and then getting a call

931
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 2: a couple of days later being like, oh, the the

932
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 2: wrong persons in there.

933
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 1: This has happened. I have heard this happen before, where

934
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,280
Speaker 1: a person gets cremated that shouldn't have got cremated and stuff.

935
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: I mean, it sucks, but all right, let's talk about this.

936
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:36,439
Speaker 1: So this last case is really really really disturbing, and

937
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: just thank god for police and first responders because some

938
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: of the shit that they have to see every day

939
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: is just on another level.

940
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 2: So State police got a call to investigate a dead body.

941
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 2: They arrive at the house, and they turn up to

942
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 2: this house that's completely infested with rats or feces smeared

943
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,439
Speaker 2: on the walls, rats are everywhere, And it turns out

944
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 2: that this woman and her two children, who were five

945
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 2: and nine years old, lived in this house and their

946
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 2: father was deceased on the second floor. His body was

947
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 2: also covered by rats eating his corpse.

948
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, so do you see now why like first responders amts,

949
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: they need stink bomb because could you imagine walking into

950
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: a house that has feces smeared on the wall? Why

951
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: would that ever need to happen? Rats everywhere, and the

952
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 1: rats are eating away at a dead, decomposing body that

953
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: must just smell completely horrible. I can't even imagine. And

954
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: how do you go home at night to your family

955
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: when you see something like this? And these kids, these

956
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: little kids were right around their father being like like this.

957
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't say that he was murdered by

958
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 1: the wife. They didn't really say anything as to Hallie died.

959
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: He was pretty I mean, he was probably a younger guy,

960
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: I guess you can't really assume that. But the woman

961
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: was well, she was in her thirties, right, You can't

962
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: assume that the dad was that old. But you don't

963
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: just die, right, So something? Was he on drugs? Did

964
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: she kill him? I don't know what happened, but it.

965
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 2: I mean, right now she's just being charged with child

966
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 2: in endangerment, So it's seemingly as of this point in

967
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 2: time that she's not charged with murder or anything, but

968
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 2: it's still horrible and really discussing the children had to

969
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 2: grow up in this environment.

970
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: I'll messed up.

971
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 2: Okay, onto our questions of the day. So just to

972
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 2: start this off, every Friday, we post on the at

973
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 2: mother nos Death Instagram a little question box in the story,

974
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,439
Speaker 2: so if you want your question potentially answered, you could

975
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 2: drop it in the box. We'll take a look at

976
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 2: it and feature a couple on the show. So we

977
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 2: a couple of really go once this week. I want

978
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 2: to start off with the first one, which is how

979
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 2: does forensics play a role in pathology?

980
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: That's a good question, So there's all different There's about

981
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: five different matters of death. We will say you can

982
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: die naturally, which means typically I would say that's pathology.

983
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: That's when you have a disease or something that caused

984
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: you to die. Homicide you die at the hands of another, suicide,

985
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: you die at the hands of yourself, or accident you

986
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: die accidentally, and then the other the fifth manner of

987
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: death is undetermined, which means we did the autopsy, we

988
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: did the toxicology, we just have no idea how you died.

989
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: And it's used sparingly because obviously that doesn't that manner

990
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 1: of death doesn't sit well with people. But there's oftentimes

991
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: you would say that the forensics forensic autopsies are done

992
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: by the Medical Examiner's office. Let's say, for example, let's

993
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: use Philadelphia, because that's where I live, near the closest one.

994
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: And there's oftentimes that people that work in the Medical

995
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: Examiner's office who are doing autopsies of homicides and suicides

996
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: and accidents are also doing natural ones because people die

997
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: all the time and they need to rule out if

998
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: it was suspicious or not, just because if you die

999
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: at home and nobody really knows what happened and you

1000
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: didn't go to the hospital, sometimes just looking at your

1001
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 1: body laying their dead in your living room isn't really

1002
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 1: helpful and doesn't let the medical examiner know exactly how

1003
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 1: you died. So sometimes you have to go there and

1004
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: get an autopsy. And when I was interning at the

1005
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: Medical Examiner's office, I saw lots of natural pathology cases.

1006
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: I saw pulmonary embolisms, I saw lots of heart things,

1007
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: I saw lots of cancers, So there's definitely like an overlap.

1008
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: And then also the other overlap is when you're working

1009
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: in the hospital. You get a lot of people at

1010
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: the hospital that get shot, get in car accidents, but

1011
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: they get brought to the hospital and they live. They

1012
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: might live a couple days, they might live a week,

1013
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: but then they die. So you have forensic cases in

1014
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: the hospital as well, and we need to know like

1015
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 1: which cases need to go to the medical examiner's office,

1016
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: which cases need to stay with us, just because there

1017
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: are natural pathology cases in the hospital. So I hope

1018
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: that answers your question. All right.

1019
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 2: Next, have you ever done an autopsy on a prisoner

1020
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 2: who was executed? No?

1021
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: So the only two places that I've done autopsies are

1022
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: in the state of New Jersey, and capital punishment doesn't

1023
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: happen in New Jersey, and the last time someone was

1024
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: executed was like in the sixties. And in Pennsylvania, capital

1025
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 1: punishment is a thing, but they haven't executed anybody since

1026
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine, So no, I haven't.

1027
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 2: All right, Next, is it true that pacemakers explode in

1028
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:45,720
Speaker 2: the crematorium?

1029
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 1: So I get asked this a lot. I've never cremated

1030
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: a person, so I personally have not experienced it, but

1031
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: I do know based on medical literature that I've read that, Yes,

1032
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: they do from time to time. It's just but they

1033
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: are lithium ion batteries, which we are we're interviewing someone

1034
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: about that firefighter about that next week because of all

1035
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: the recent fires in New York. But when they burn

1036
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: at a certain temperature, they they can cause like an

1037
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: explosion in the crematorium. So there has been documented cases

1038
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: of it happening, but it doesn't happen. It doesn't happen

1039
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: all the time. I can tell you that I've been

1040
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: shocked by a pacemaker one time. Oh really yeah, And

1041
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what I did wrong, but it

1042
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: did scare I mean obviously, like it wasn't even enough

1043
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: that I needed medical treatment. It just sat me a

1044
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: little bit. But when when I do the autopsy and

1045
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: I open up, when I do the y incision underneath

1046
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: of the flap that we have to cut the wires

1047
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: because it's kind of like a battery that's underneath a

1048
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: pocket of skin up here, and then the wires go

1049
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: into the heart, So you have to cut it because

1050
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: it's hard. It's not really worth it to try to

1051
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: dissect it out intact when you're not really looking for

1052
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: that and I would just cut it with scissors, and

1053
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: one time when I cut it, it zapped me, so obviously,

1054
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: like the metal against the electrode like could cause that.

1055
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: But all of these studies done say that people that

1056
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: do autopsies are not at a risk of like a

1057
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: really bad shock because we wear like rubber gloves and

1058
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: sometimes multiple pairs. I think they were saying in one

1059
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: of the research papers that I read that two pairs

1060
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: of the rubber gloves were the safest, and there is

1061
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: a possibility at that point of the autopsy maybe I

1062
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: only had one pair on for whatever reason. I don't know.

1063
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: I don't know what I did wrong, But every single

1064
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: time after that I would just cut and be like,

1065
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: please don't have it, because it just was like enough

1066
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: to just feel kind of gross.

1067
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's that's really interesting. I hope you

1068
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 2: asked the fireman about well, I guess you wouldn't have

1069
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 2: to ask him. I didn't think about having the lithium

1070
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 2: ion battery in your own body and if that could

1071
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 2: potentially be a fire hazard as well.

1072
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not I'm not really sure. Like I don't

1073
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,439
Speaker 1: really have much experience with pacemakers other than taking them.

1074
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: I would get them in surgical pathology a lot when

1075
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: they were taken out of people, and I took them

1076
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: out of a lot of people. But I really don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't really know much about the ins and outs

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Speaker 1: of them. So we could ask for sure, like as

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Speaker 1: a person ever caught on fire because of a Lithian

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Speaker 1: eye on battery inside their body, I'm not I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that the way that the things are made,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's just different, but maybe not just I

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Speaker 1: really don't know. I'll look it up because I'm kind

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Speaker 1: of interested in that now, honestly.

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Speaker 2: Okay, our last question is what are both of our

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Speaker 2: guilty pleasures? Do you want to start?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I like a guilty pleasure is like

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Speaker 1: what are you saying? It's like something that you're like

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Speaker 1: embarrassed that you like or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess it's like the definition is something you

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Speaker 2: like that's not highly like like highly regarded.

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Speaker 1: Is that actually like talking about dead people all day

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Speaker 1: and stuff like that? I don't know, Like I guess

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Speaker 1: I would say, what, I watch this show called Bunked

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Speaker 1: with my kids, and it's like it's it's definitely a

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Speaker 1: little kids show, but I love it, and I feel

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Speaker 1: like my husband makes fun of me because I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I would prefer to watch that show, like I don't

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Speaker 1: even need the kids to be around to watch it,

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Speaker 1: because I think it's written really well and it's funny

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Speaker 1: and obviously, like I'm into. I always say this to

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Speaker 1: you guys that I really like to watch shows that

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Speaker 1: because like life and Autopsy and everything is so just

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Speaker 1: depressing and serious that whenever I watch stuff for entertainment,

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Speaker 1: I want it to be like happy and funny, and

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Speaker 1: watching a show like Sex and the City of course,

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Speaker 1: is like, it's funny, but it's it's easy to make

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Speaker 1: funny jokes when you use curses and when and when

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Speaker 1: you talk about X. But to write funny stuff that's

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Speaker 1: like g or PG rated that could be funny, I

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Speaker 1: think is like extra clever. So I guess I think

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Speaker 1: that's why I love that show. But it's kind of

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Speaker 1: embarrassing because like it's not something that that people that

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Speaker 1: are like forty four years old typically watch, probably, so

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Speaker 1: I guess that I would say it's bunked on the

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Speaker 1: Disney Channel, how about you? Right?

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Speaker 2: Beat that genuinely all my pleasures. I'm not guilty about

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Speaker 2: even though they could probably be pleasures. No, I'm not

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Speaker 2: like trash television, like reality shows are generally guilty pleasures.

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Speaker 2: I'm not embarrassed to love them. I really love them.

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Speaker 2: I eat pretzels with ketchup, which is probably not popular.

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Speaker 2: I no, like if you get those, well now we're

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Speaker 2: gluten free. But before I would get like my her

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Speaker 2: wave of super pretzels and dip them in ketchup, and

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Speaker 2: they were delicious missing I prefer it like a pretzel.

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Speaker 2: I would just eat that every single day. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: pretzels are one of my favorites. Next ever, so that

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Speaker 2: was a really huge hit. But that is something I

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Speaker 2: really enjoyed doing. But not with salt. It has to

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Speaker 2: be like a saltless bread and ketchup. I'm still not

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Speaker 2: embarrassed of it, though. I guess one of my guilty

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Speaker 2: pleasures is I still like to drive around and like

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Speaker 2: sing emo music in my car, like my colors.

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Speaker 1: And far when we did not need to know that.

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Speaker 2: I'm not embarrassed of it though, like I do it

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Speaker 2: because I like it. I was obsessed with them.

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Speaker 1: But I know you should tell the story about when

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Speaker 1: Maria was how old were you was? Like was I

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Speaker 1: with Gabe.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know.

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Speaker 1: I feel like almostn't even had to be eleven or

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Speaker 1: she was like she was like eleven or twelve. It

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Speaker 1: was before I even met Abe, and she she we

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Speaker 1: finally got her tickets to them my Chemical Romance concert,

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Speaker 1: and she was so ready to go. She was like

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Speaker 1: obsessed with that what was his name, Gerard or something?

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Speaker 1: Was that? Yeah? Yeah, she was like obsessed with this

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Speaker 1: guy and she like had all the albums and wore

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Speaker 1: the t shirts and everything, and then he had to

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Speaker 1: cancel the concert because he was like sick or something.

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Speaker 2: They got like food poisoning or something, and they had

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Speaker 2: to cancel the Philly shows.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she was like, I feel like I let her

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Speaker 1: stay home from school that day so she could cry

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Speaker 1: all day like it was. It was bad. And I

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Speaker 1: still don't think that she's quite over it because you've

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Speaker 1: never have you seen them now.

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Speaker 2: Right, I've seen them two times. They I'm so when

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Speaker 2: they they came in twenty twenty. They were supposed to

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Speaker 2: come in the fall of twenty twenty, and in February

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Speaker 2: the tickets went on sale. I remember this day because

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Speaker 2: I worked the Wing Bowl, which if anybody's from Philly.

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Speaker 2: It'sa like a bunch of strippers and gross men eating wings.

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Speaker 1: That sounds really fun.

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Speaker 2: It's a good event to work if you want to

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Speaker 2: make quick cash. But anyway, I remember we just got

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Speaker 2: done because it happens at six o'clock in the morning,

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Speaker 2: so the tickets went on sale ten. We just got

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Speaker 2: done working at me and my friend Sam and I

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Speaker 2: was trying to get the tickets and my phone kept

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Speaker 2: crashing out and then they ended up being like three

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Speaker 2: hundred dollars a ticket. I'm like, this is ridiculous. They

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Speaker 2: were like eighty. I feel like pop Up talking about

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Speaker 2: it like you were eighteen dollars back.

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Speaker 1: In by day. Yeah, that sounds like me every single

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Speaker 1: day of my life. I just can't I can't even

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Speaker 1: imagine that everything costs a lot. And I'm like, all right,

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Speaker 1: this is how you like officially know that you're old.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: They have a really cool sweatshirt on their website. I

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Speaker 2: saw it earlier today. I was just looking that it's

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Speaker 2: like collegiate and it just says dead and I thought

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Speaker 2: that would be really cute. So somebody that knows them

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Speaker 2: should have them send me.

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Speaker 1: That true God, or you could just buy it.

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Speaker 2: Uh sure, or Christmas said. My birthday is coming up,

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Speaker 2: so you never know. Anyway, if you want to buy

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Speaker 2: some things that are themed Dead and have anything to

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Speaker 2: do with us, you can check out the links in

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Speaker 2: the description of this episode. We have a Favorite Things

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Speaker 2: page where it's some products we really love. It shows

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Speaker 2: some of our sponsors too. If you can't remember the

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Speaker 2: link or the promo code, that's all on there. We

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Speaker 2: have holiday cards, book plates. You could also buy my

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Speaker 2: mom's book. It's on Amazon. It's an awesome coffee table book,

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Speaker 2: the perfect little Christmas present if you want to freak

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Speaker 2: somebody out, but it looks really beautiful, so it's unsuspecting.

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Speaker 2: And we have merch as well, so it's cute little

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Speaker 2: merch you could give to yourself, your friend, your colleague, whatever.

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Speaker 2: But I'll put all those links in the description.

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Speaker 1: Also, don't forget to leave us a review if you

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, thank you guys, and I hope you

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Speaker 2: all have a happy Thanksgiving, happy holiday shopping to our

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Speaker 2: fellow shoppers. We know it's a very important work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're doing Black Friday, right. The kids are all like,

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Speaker 1: what's Black Friday? And we're trying to explain to them,

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Speaker 1: you know, before this internet thing. They just like can't

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Speaker 1: wrap their mind around like life before that. But so

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Speaker 1: we're gonna try to go out at like what Lellian thinks,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna wake up at like two o'clock in the

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Speaker 1: morning and try to go shopping or whatever. And I

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Speaker 1: was like, maybe we could do like six let's let's

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Speaker 1: not go to nuts.

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Speaker 2: Are you like your sister's gonna be here at three am?

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Speaker 1: I just don't understand, Like do they have like like

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Speaker 1: I could just lay in bed do it. I know

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Speaker 1: that we're gonna go like get a coffee and it'll

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Speaker 1: be an experience, but what is Black Friday even a

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Speaker 1: thing at stores anymore?

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Speaker 2: Actually, there's something I really want to get, Ricky that

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Speaker 2: we can maybe get at a store on Friday.

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Speaker 1: Wow, it'll be worth waking up at six am just

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Speaker 1: for that, all right, guys, if the deal is right,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us today. Thank you for listening to

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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Death. As a reminder, my training is as

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Speaker 1: a pathologist's Assistant. I have a master's level education and

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Speaker 1: specialize in anatomy and pathology education. I am not a

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