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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff you Should Know

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Speaker 1: from house Stuff Works dot Com. Hey, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. With me is always this

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Speaker 1: Charles W Chuck Bryant. He's got a new haircut. Everybody

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Speaker 1: looks really good. You can take my word for short,

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Speaker 1: high and tight. Yeah, high and tight. Makeing stuff you

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Speaker 1: should know? Chuck out his ears lowered? Have you ever

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Speaker 1: heard that? And I don't think anyone under seventy has

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Speaker 1: ever said that? Though, Yeah, well I just had. I

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Speaker 1: took the cake. Yes, speaking of have you ever heard

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Speaker 1: of the origin of the word cakewalk? The term cake walk?

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Speaker 1: I wrote a blog on it. You should check it out.

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Speaker 1: Very surprising. I'll check it out, very eye opening. Again,

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Speaker 1: tell us just go to the blog blog. Um, it's

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Speaker 1: so Chuck. Are you ready? Yes, Chuck, Yes, I want

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Speaker 1: to commend you. Okay, Um, just a day ago I

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Speaker 1: woke up, checked my smartphone and found an email and

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Speaker 1: you said, how about these for stuff you should know?

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Speaker 1: And one of them was what happens in the brain

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Speaker 1: during an orgasm? I'm sorry. Last week what happens in

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Speaker 1: the brain during an orgasm. And I thought, oh, man,

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that one. Like we've got some

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Speaker 1: younger listeners, like are we qualified to talk about this stuff?

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Speaker 1: I got I started sweating. Um, it was just it

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Speaker 1: was a wreck. It was a terrible way to wake up. Um.

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Speaker 1: And I emailed you and was like, are you sure?

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Speaker 1: And you said something that I thought was this is

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Speaker 1: why I'm commending you. You're like, look, man, we've done

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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff on like really violent things which

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Speaker 1: just off the top of my head, shrunken heads are

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Speaker 1: cannibalism at the Ripper. Um, and we have we've done

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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff about violent stuff. And you're like,

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Speaker 1: especially in America. It's a scene we just celebrated Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: We're a very puritanical country still. And that's absolutely true.

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Speaker 1: Like violence is celebrated and okay, sexuality is hidden and

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Speaker 1: it's not okay. Uh, And yeah, I don't subscribe to

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Speaker 1: that either. So I wanted to commend you for having

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Speaker 1: that level of foresight insight every kind of site and

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Speaker 1: forum suggesting we do this. Thanks for having said that.

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Speaker 1: If you're a parent, if you're a younger listener, maybe

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Speaker 1: you should ask your parents. We're gonna be very mature

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Speaker 1: if you uh, if you don't think you want your

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Speaker 1: kid listening to uh anything about orgasms, then switch it off.

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Speaker 1: Hey man, you're the parent, we're not. It's up to

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Speaker 1: you to decide when you want your kid. Personally, I

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to this, chuck. Yeah, let's this

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Speaker 1: So let's do that the first one. There a sudden movement, spasm, contraction,

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Speaker 1: discharge of neuromuscular tension at the height of sexual arousal uh,

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Speaker 1: smut peddler Dr Alfred Kinsey, I'm sorry, sex researcher. Researcher

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Speaker 1: Chuck a k a. Paraplegics sample who have suffered catastrophic

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Speaker 1: some people can orgasm from being touched in other parts

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Speaker 1: of their body other than the genitalium. I did know that,

423
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Speaker 1: for instance, the nipples that happened. Sometimes they think that

424
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Speaker 1: these sensations are transmitted to the same areas of the

425
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Speaker 1: brain as the ones that come from your genitals, and

426
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Speaker 1: so it's just the brain saying all right, I'll give

427
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Speaker 1: you a little bonus there. You know, it's it's lighting

428
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Speaker 1: up the right part of the brain. So here's an orgasm.

429
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Speaker 1: Um Apparently also knees knows people. Um, there apparently women

430
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Speaker 1: out there who can have orgasms just from imagery alone,

431
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:24,479
Speaker 1: no touching, no touching. Um. And again these people are

432
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Speaker 1: in m r s. The brain is lighting up and

433
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Speaker 1: they're saying it science supports this woman is actually having

434
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Speaker 1: an orgasm from a no touch encounter. The phantom limb

435
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: thing is what it really gets me. Yeah, do you

436
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,719
Speaker 1: want to talk about that? Yeah? I mean apparently some

437
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 1: people can. Did they do they feel the orgasm in

438
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Speaker 1: their phantom limb? Yes? Is that what it's not? It

439
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: doesn't generate there. So you know how you have when

440
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 1: you experience an orgasm, chuck, You know how it's concentrated

441
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: in your genitalia. Imagine if that sensation we're in your foot,

442
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: like that's what felt good, just as easily could right now.

443
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: Imagine that your foot have been amputated years before, but

444
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Speaker 1: you're still feeling your orgasm in your phantom foot. That's

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Speaker 1: what they're talking about that. Well, they think what happened

446
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: is Um. There's a basically a map of your brain.

447
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: The way we interpret it is as a maps called

448
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: the cortical homunculous and the cortical homunculous is like, Okay,

449
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: this part of the body corresponds to this part of

450
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Speaker 1: the brain, like the nerves here correspond here. And apparently

451
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: if you suffer an amputation, your brain is like, well,

452
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: I need to rewire myself and need to remap a

453
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: little bit. So, um, I'm going to assign the sensation

454
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Speaker 1: in the foot that's not there any longer to the genitalia,

455
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 1: so the brain can become confused by the genitalia being

456
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Speaker 1: stimulated that experience can be felt in the amputated foot,

457
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Speaker 1: for example. That's what scientists think right now. You can

458
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Speaker 1: also say that they have no idea what's going but

459
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: people are reporting having orgasms and phantom limbs. I think

460
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: it's my new band name, too, Cortical homunculous. I've got

461
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: some breaking news, Josh. This is a surprise for you.

462
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: My friend Dr oh is at it again. And this

463
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: was just released on the old ap wire last week. No,

464
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 1: they kicked it up a notch and had ladies sit

465
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Speaker 1: in the f m R I machine, which is even

466
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: kicked up a notch from the regular m R I

467
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Speaker 1: And they now have the first movie of the female

468
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: brain as it approaches experiences and recovers from an orgasm.

469
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: So they put this couple of ladies actually, and one

470
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Speaker 1: of them talked about it. She did a little uh,

471
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: I think she blocked about it. She said that one

472
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: of the problems in doing this, obviously is you have

473
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: to not move very much at all because it will

474
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Speaker 1: disrupt the data. So they fitted her with a breathable

475
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: plastic mesh helmet that was screwed into the bed to

476
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Speaker 1: keep her still. And um, how he's got an eyeswight

477
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: chut for some reason. And um, they told her to

478
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: practice being still while you know, bringing yourself to climax.

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00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: So she uh, duct taped a kittie bell from her

480
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: cats uh what do you call it? The collar onto

481
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: her forehead and for two weeks practice bringing yourself to

482
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: climax without ringing that bell. And she said, you know,

483
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: I got good, good enough at it to successfully do

484
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: this in the experiment, and uh, it was successful. So

485
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: you can go on the internet now and look this up,

486
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: um and watch this video the animation plays. Um, you

487
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: see the activity building up in the Genitalia area of

488
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: the century cortex like it should. Then, um, activity is

489
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: spreading to the limbic system. Then it spreads to the

490
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Speaker 1: limbic system, which is involved in emotion and long term memory.

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Speaker 1: Then as the orgasm arrives, activity shoots up in two

492
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Speaker 1: parts of the brain, the cerebellum in the frontal cortex

493
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: that controlled the muscular tension. So all of a sudden,

494
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: the muscles like contract really heavily, so that shoots up

495
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: during the orgasm um it reaches a peak in the hypothalamus,

496
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: and that's when it releases the oxytocin and all that

497
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: good stuff and causes the uterus to contract and I'm sorry,

498
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: the nucleus acumbens is uh, that's also firing off during

499
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: the peak because controlling the release of yeah, and then

500
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: afterwards everything like you see, it just goes. You goes

501
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,479
Speaker 1: from all colorful back to the cold, dead blackness of

502
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: your brain. The Derrito's center starts becoming active. So check.

503
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: There's a there's a very big question that we haven't

504
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Speaker 1: really answered. We understand why men have orgasms. Why do

505
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: women have orgasms evolutionarily? But why? I mean, it doesn't

506
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: make any sense. If it's an evolutionary adaptation like it

507
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: is for men, then why is it so hard for

508
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: some women to have orgasm? You you know, ten of

509
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: women will go through their entire lifetimes without ever experience

510
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: any or an orgasm. That's a lot. So if it's evolutionary,

511
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: that just that completely pulls the rug out of that

512
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: whole idea, because then it should be really easy for

513
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: women and men. Right, Okay, So one of the ideas

514
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: that's long been bandied about is a byproduct theory, like,

515
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: you know why men have nipples because women have nipples

516
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: all humans, so at some point during gestation or whatever,

517
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: we still keep ours even though we don't need them

518
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: and don't need nipples. But we're humans and women need nipples,

519
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: so it makes sense I don't use mine anymore. Um.

520
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: They think that possibly the female orgasm is the same

521
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: thing men and women are both humans. Men need to

522
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: have orgasms, so women do as byproduct. In this really

523
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: weird study that came out last year of twins, um,

524
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: they studied same sex twins and opposite sex twins, and

525
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: same sex twins had similar orgasm patterns. Right opposite sex twins, who,

526
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: if it is just a byproduct, um, should have the

527
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: same or similar orgasm patterns. It didn't hold up. So

528
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: where does that leave us? Well, we have no ideas.

529
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: Con They think that it could possibly be an evolutionary remnant,

530
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: like it was uh strategic to our survival at some

531
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: point in the distant pass and it's just a relic

532
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: that kind of hangs around, which is kind of a

533
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: depressing thought because then that means we're watching it as

534
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: it's endangered and it's growing extinct, and that's sad, and

535
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: I think that it needs to be snatched back from

536
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: the grips of natural selection. Well, some things maybe just

537
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: shouldn't be studied. Maybe you should just the I don't know,

538
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's women out there saying just put those

539
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: studies away. Yeah, let's just look at it as a

540
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: big as a big bonus. And that's thanks, big guy.

541
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: That's when dr Oe flicks the switch and the disco

542
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: ball comes down from the ceiling. So if you want

543
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: to know more about orgasms and see some pretty cool

544
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: stock images of lit brains and things like that, you

545
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: can type in what happens in the brain during an orgasm?

546
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: You probably just type in orgasm in the search bart

547
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: how stuff works dot com. It will bring up some

548
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: interesting cool stuff. Sure, um and uh, I said search bar.

549
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: I believe. So that means it's time for a listener

550
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: mail Josh. Before we move on, we have to uh

551
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: announce I believe, one final time about our contest. That's

552
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: the last time because the contest ends December thirty one,

553
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Speaker 1: I believe. Right. You have to enter to win, as

554
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: they say, yeah, and you have to enter only through Facebook. Yes,

555
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Speaker 1: you have to like the house stuff Works dot Com

556
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Speaker 1: facebook page, not the stuff you Should Know page. We

557
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Speaker 1: and I say this enough yet still people right in

558
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: on our stuff you should know well and say where

559
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Speaker 1: do you enter how stuffworks dot Com? Like it? You

560
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: have to enter a few small details nothing to uh

561
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: uh obtrusive? Right, nothing too intrusive? What did I say? Uh?

562
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: You have through the end of the year, through December

563
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: thirty one to enter. We're gonna announce the winner the

564
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: first week of the year. What a great way to

565
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Speaker 1: start your year off, exactly like knowing that you're coming

566
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Speaker 1: to me. A couple of grand prize is you get

567
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: to fly to Atlanta up to five dollars air fair covered, uh,

568
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: stay in a hotel covered, get an Amex gift cards

569
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: hundred bucks for like um nail clippers because you can't

570
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: fly with those. That's right? And uh, if you refer someone.

571
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: You can tweet it out or say this is my

572
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: Facebook status as I just entered this. If you refer

573
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: someone and they win after they entered, then you win

574
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Speaker 1: a kindle fire, right, and you don't have to keep

575
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: track of that. We have like people who who track

576
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: those metrics. There's an algorithm. Yeah, so it's it's it's

577
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: a pretty cool contest, pretty straightforward. But we get to

578
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: go to lunch. I don't think we said that. You

579
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: come to the office, you get a tour, Yeah, we

580
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: got we take you to lunch. We take you to lunch.

581
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: Yeah with Jerry, Jerry's coming. We're not gonna make you

582
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 1: spend that m X gift card on it. That's for you.

583
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: Although if they want to buy me Neil clippers, I'm

584
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Speaker 1: not gonna stop. And uh, sorry to those of you

585
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: in other countries. I know it's a rub that you

586
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: have to be in the United States here, but we

587
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: can't win your lotteries or your contest in New Zealand,

588
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: so you can't win on ours. It's just the way

589
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: contests work. Yes, and uh, just go to the House

590
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: Stuff Works Facebook page and I'm sure there'll be some

591
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: sort of something up that says Hey, you should enter

592
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 1: this contest. Agreed. Okay, so I think we should get

593
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: on with it. That's right, Josh. This is about gene patenting,

594
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: I believe. And it's from Jim in New Jersey, Garden State.

595
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: I loves your patent podcast. Guys at Dovetail about that

596
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 1: word very nicely with the Tech Stuff patent podcast. Yeah,

597
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: that's what he says. I'm of the opinion that if

598
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: you construct a new gene, then you can patent it. However,

599
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: if you discover a gene already existing in nature, then

600
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that you should be able to patent it.

601
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: This is just Jim's opinion. Maybe you can patent the

602
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: process of identifying the gene seems reasonable. Maybe you can

603
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 1: patent a specific use of the gene, such as for testing,

604
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 1: which you clearly covered as being controversial. However, you shouldn't

605
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: be able to quote own the gene, what if it

606
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: has another use. It's good point and the epilogue on

607
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: the Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks, Rebecca Scalute describes a

608
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: disturbing scenario if you provide a sample of our DNA

609
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: to a medical professional of your own DNA UH and

610
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: it is found to have a mutation that's the foundation

611
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: of the next wonder drug. You are entitled to nothing,

612
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: so legally your sample is considered trash unless you've like

613
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: pre arranged some legal arrangement. That means you've abandoned it.

614
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: That's like Henry Alas. Are you familiar with her now,

615
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: I've heard that though if we talked about this, Yeah,

616
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: she's she's kind of famous in this really weird way.

617
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Speaker 1: She's like an African American lady from the forties or fifties,

618
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 1: and um, somehow she donated like her blood or some

619
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: tissue or something to science and it became the basis

620
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: of like all scientific research after that. So, like all

621
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Speaker 1: these breakthroughs and drugs and cancer blockers and all of

622
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: this pharmaceutical research was based on this culture that's still around.

623
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Speaker 1: Her line is still around. Why she's immortal and her yes,

624
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: and her family has gotten nothing from it. Interesting, and

625
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 1: you know, companies have made hundreds of billions of dollars

626
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: off of this lady's life, like her biology, and they've

627
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: got nothing. I haven't read the book, but I've heard

628
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 1: nothing but good things about it. To check that out.

629
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Speaker 1: So that's from GYM and New Jersey. Thanks Jim. Thanks

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Speaker 1: Henry at Thelas Okay said, I think forties or fifties.

631
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Speaker 1: Look that up, um, and I'm it's probably even worse

632
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,239
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