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Speaker 1: Welcome back to I Do Part two.

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Speaker 2: It's your celebrity mentors Kelly Klaurn, Ben Simone and Cheryl Burke.

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Speaker 1: We're back together again together. I have missed you so much.

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Speaker 2: We have so much to talk about between jingle Ball

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Speaker 2: and what's in the news.

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Speaker 1: We just have like so so much. So let's get started.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it.

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Speaker 4: Where were you?

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Speaker 3: Where was I? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Why were you a dingle ball?

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Speaker 3: I was busy, too busy to go to dingle ball.

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Speaker 3: You know how far jingle ball is for me? Far?

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Speaker 1: When I missed you, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean probably not as far as you, because you've traveled together.

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Speaker 1: Like where is Cheryl? I have not seen?

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Speaker 3: I hear came from New York.

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Speaker 1: I came in from you.

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Speaker 3: What you came in from New York?

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Speaker 1: Exactly?

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Speaker 3: I'm not as far as you.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter I missed you anyway. There's no like

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Speaker 2: two minutes or twenty or ten hours I missed you.

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Speaker 1: I was like, very.

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Speaker 3: Shay, how is jingle Balls?

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Speaker 4: Tell me jingle Balls?

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Speaker 1: I was jingle balls?

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Speaker 3: How was the balls a jingle Town?

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Speaker 1: First of all, everyone is like super young.

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Speaker 2: In case you're wondering, like all these bands, I'm like

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, everyone is soper young, Like, oh, they're

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Speaker 2: like my they're younger than my.

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Speaker 3: Kids, Like stop, who cares? Age is just a number.

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Speaker 1: I'm just they were fantastic.

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Speaker 2: They were really everyone like everyone had like their own vibe,

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Speaker 2: like all the different bands, and then it was just

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Speaker 2: so great to like pods everyone like, I mean, we

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Speaker 2: just had so much fun from you know, from with

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Speaker 2: Susan and Kathy from The Golden Bachelor and Joan.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: They're so fantastic. They're just so insightful and so cool

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Speaker 2: and so hot. I'm like, what is going on here

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Speaker 2: with these red sparkle pants and these mini shorts? And

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Speaker 2: I hung out with Dina love her so much. She's

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Speaker 2: so great and obviously Jen Fessler and it's such a

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Speaker 2: great time.

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Speaker 1: It was really fun.

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Speaker 3: There you go, did you meet anybody? Well?

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Speaker 2: I am seeing someone done done dum?

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Speaker 3: Where is he is he in your home?

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Speaker 1: Now? Is he right there? I want to see him?

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Speaker 3: Is he hiding hiding? Say more?

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Speaker 1: He's great.

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Speaker 2: He's fifty nine, and he's very handsome. He's got two

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Speaker 2: gorgeous kids. He has a great ex wife. He's just

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Speaker 2: very solid, real.

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Speaker 1: Calm, well mannered, educated and has a job.

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Speaker 3: Whoa, And he's got a great ex wife. That's that's

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Speaker 3: not said lightly.

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Speaker 1: She's great. That's great. So you met the ex.

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Speaker 3: Wife, you met the kids already?

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Speaker 4: When did this happen?

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Speaker 1: And I met her? Wait?

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Speaker 3: Well, how did you guys meet? What you guys are

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Speaker 3: from the beginning? This is crazy? Congratulations by the way,

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Speaker 3: this is great news.

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Speaker 1: He's so great, he's so good. I met him in July, yes.

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Speaker 3: Say more.

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Speaker 1: I met him in July through my money manager.

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Speaker 2: I was literally like, I was like, I don't know

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Speaker 2: what's going on. I am like so freaked out, Like

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Speaker 2: my world is like totally upside down, like what is

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Speaker 2: going on with me? And she's like it's so weird.

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Speaker 2: I like with this really good friend of mine and

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Speaker 2: you know, he would.

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Speaker 1: Love to meet you. And I was like, are you

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Speaker 1: like what come on? Like they don't want to meet me.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna be like, oh my god, she's a housewife,

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Speaker 2: she's a model.

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Speaker 1: She's stupid. I'm like a person says that I'm a

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Speaker 1: housewife and the model, I'm stupid. I'm gonna like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what I mean. You're not.

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Speaker 3: That's not all of you, Kelly. It's just a part of.

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Speaker 1: You, which part the stupid part of the home.

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Speaker 3: Oh, people need to stop reading. I am dB or

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Speaker 3: whatever is that's still around.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I wonder says about this?

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Speaker 4: Did he I loved that?

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Speaker 3: Stay? Did he go jingle ball?

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Speaker 1: As? He did not? He had to be in on

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Speaker 1: the East Coast so he couldn't come.

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Speaker 3: Wait, hold on to He's not in the entertainment industry, no.

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Speaker 1: But he wanted to. I took him to Heidi Clume's

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Speaker 1: Halloween party.

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Speaker 3: Okay, miss Heidi Klum Halloween party he loved. Oh, I'm

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Speaker 3: sure I have never even been to Heidi Klum's Halloween party.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you come to New York, I will take you.

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Speaker 1: We will go.

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Speaker 3: Oh is that where it is? That's probably why. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're like too far, not not cool enough to have

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Speaker 3: someone fly me there to hide clue.

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Speaker 1: Wait, what's big going on with your life? You are?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Where have you been? What is going on?

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Speaker 2: You're looking more gorgeous every single day. I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 2: stalking on and stuff.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, where's my show? First of all?

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Speaker 3: Your ballroom dancing? Can we talk about this?

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Speaker 1: Oh? I am trying to hold on.

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Speaker 3: I cannot believe you didn't even contact me to ask

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Speaker 3: what are there any good like studios or like, you

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Speaker 3: just went for it.

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Speaker 2: So this company was like, would you ever be interested

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Speaker 2: in trying to dance?

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Speaker 1: And I'm like sure. I was like, it's called freda Stair.

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Speaker 1: I was like sure, why not?

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Speaker 4: I was like it's stair is that?

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Speaker 1: And so? Yeah, how am I doing?

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Speaker 3: I only saw a quick snippet from what you guys

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Speaker 3: are together? But how do you? I mean, do you

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Speaker 3: like it?

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Speaker 1: Oh? It's so fun, it's super hard. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean honestly, when I watch you dance, I'm like, God,

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Speaker 1: she's so cool. It's so easy.

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Speaker 3: It's so hard my whole life.

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Speaker 1: Hi, you're also amazing.

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Speaker 2: I have the longest legs, and it's just like I'm like, whoa,

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Speaker 2: here comes down.

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Speaker 3: You got to use those legs to your advantage. Girl,

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Speaker 3: you got to take advantage of those legs.

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Speaker 1: How about there one time when I slid and I

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Speaker 1: was like and I kept sliding, and then the video

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Speaker 1: it kind of looks like I'm just sliding effortlessly.

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Speaker 3: Meanwhile I'm little, You're like holding on, You're like gripping

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Speaker 3: the floor. Okay, what have I been up to, well,

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Speaker 3: I have been what have I been up to? I've

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Speaker 3: just been really putting twenty twenty five. We're starting to

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Speaker 3: I'm going to be bringing into twenty twenty six versus not.

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Speaker 3: But I made it to the Sephoras squad. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if you've seen this footage on my Instagram, but

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Speaker 3: basically it's amazing. I'm a part of I am Team

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Speaker 3: Sephora over here and yeah, and I got like a

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Speaker 3: really big campaign with them that's starting next year.

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Speaker 1: Yay.

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Speaker 3: Don't know if I could even announce it, so who knows.

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Speaker 3: We'll see. And I'm literally going still through this transition,

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Speaker 3: but I you know, I also got guest judge Dancing

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Speaker 3: with the Stars, so that was fun to see everybody.

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Speaker 3: But it really it was fun. I mean it was nice.

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Speaker 3: It was one big reunion and it was so emotional

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Speaker 3: for me behind the scenes, right just like leading up

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Speaker 3: to it, because it's been three years, but three long years.

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Speaker 3: I've spent seventeen years on that show. But it was

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Speaker 3: really oddly it was I wasn't nervous when I was

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Speaker 3: like when it was live, but leading up to it

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Speaker 3: I was a hot mess. I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: what am I doing? Oh no, But then it just

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Speaker 3: don't know, it was it was nice to see everybody.

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Speaker 3: This season was such an incredible season. But I'm also

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Speaker 3: ready to do other things, you know.

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Speaker 1: So what do you think?

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Speaker 2: Do you think do you feel like things have changed

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Speaker 2: on the show or do you think it's the same

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Speaker 2: as it.

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Speaker 3: Was or fan base has changed a little bit, not changed,

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Speaker 3: it's just it's you know, it has a whole new

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Speaker 3: way it was, so they are very aggressive, these fans.

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Speaker 3: You know, I definitely got my uh, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: They were coming after me for not giving alex Earl

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Speaker 3: a ten. But she got a nine. She got a nine.

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Speaker 3: She did a great job she did, but they broke hold.

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Speaker 3: Sorry it comes sticking to it.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I love that too.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's like people, a lot of

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Speaker 2: people just want to be like, Okay, we like her

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Speaker 2: or where they want to say a great thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I like that. You're like, no, I want

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Speaker 1: you to be the best.

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Speaker 4: I want you to it was so important.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was import important. It is because like I

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Speaker 3: when I competed, I wanted feedback because that's all we get, right,

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Speaker 3: Like we really do take the judges comments to heart

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Speaker 3: and when there's not any notes, but then we still

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Speaker 3: get a seven or an eight, like we need information,

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Speaker 3: you know, And so that was what I wanted to

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Speaker 3: do that for the couples as much as possible.

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Speaker 1: So I admire that.

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Speaker 2: I think that's amazing, and I'm sure that she really

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Speaker 2: appreciates it too, because when you're working that hard, you

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Speaker 2: want you want it, like you just said, you want

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Speaker 2: those notes and you want to you want to get

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Speaker 2: the A.

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Speaker 1: You know, you want to get the A.

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Speaker 3: You just need to give us in Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Right, I love that. I love that congratulations.

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Speaker 2: I know that it was hard, and but you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean I really appreciate for you for that. That's amazing.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get we have so much talk about

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Speaker 2: me so happy to see you.

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Speaker 3: Look, I'm so happy for you. By the way, are

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Speaker 3: you in love?

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Speaker 1: Well, so you know I've never been in love. So

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Speaker 1: that's like, yeah, I told you that, no talk.

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Speaker 3: About you could not say you've never been in love

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Speaker 3: your whole life.

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Speaker 2: I've never been in love, like what it's I mean.

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Speaker 2: I've loved people. I love people, I love my kids,

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Speaker 2: I love my friends, I love my family, I love people.

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Speaker 2: You know, some of the people I've been in relationships with,

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Speaker 2: I have a lot of love for them, but I

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Speaker 2: haven't been in love. Feeling love and feeling that in

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Speaker 2: love is totally different.

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Speaker 3: Totally yeah, okay, Well do you feel.

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Speaker 2: A very nurturing person so like it's it comes naturally

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Speaker 2: for me to like want the best for people, But

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Speaker 2: being in love means that they also have the best intentions.

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Speaker 3: For me too, and that also means you have to

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Speaker 3: be vulnerable. Yes, And so are you in love?

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Speaker 2: I don't know yet, that's okay, and that's okay, Okay,

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Speaker 3: But I have definitely felt like one foot was out,

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Speaker 2: It's like, let's like someone saying, meet something mean to you.

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Speaker 1: I already was on that television show it's called Housewives.

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Speaker 2: I mean a lot of if you're having those negative

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Speaker 3: That just give me a social Security number, she I

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Speaker 3: was like, I would find everything. Oh I should have

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Speaker 2: But before I was, I was dating him, I just

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Speaker 2: like they were just all they were using me too.

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Speaker 1: They would like go on a date and I felt

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Speaker 2: Guess what I went on a date with, Like if

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Speaker 3: Like other conversation starters. Yes, we talk about quiet divorce.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever gone? Do you know what this is?

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Speaker 3: Like what a quiet divorce is?

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Let's quiet divorce is a kind of term that blows

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Speaker 2: up online because people recognize themselves in it before they're

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Speaker 2: ready to admit it out loud. That's what happened to

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Speaker 2: me with my with my ex husband, we were not together.

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Speaker 2: We were a part all the time, and we were

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Speaker 2: were divorced, but we were together.

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Speaker 1: Right and so.

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Speaker 4: But by keeping separate rooms.

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Speaker 1: We were sleeping in. Yeah, he wasn't even in New York.

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Speaker 4: He was going to travel all the time.

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Speaker 2: But study finds recently highlighted the trend calling attention to

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Speaker 2: her breakup that doesn't kick the door so much as

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Speaker 2: tiptoes into the room and sits on your chest. O God.

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Speaker 2: It describes a slow erosion of intimacy inside relationships that

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Speaker 1: In a day to day.

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Speaker 3: Oh have you ever heard of John Gotman?

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Speaker 1: That's heartbreaking. You're just gonna just go on. That's hard.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm going to continue. But have you heard of

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Speaker 3: the Gotmans before? No?

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Speaker 4: I have not.

445
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 3: Oh John Gotman and his wife I forgot her name,

446
00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 3: but they when I was going through my relationship and

447
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 3: I divorced, I studied these two because they basically have

448
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 3: done decades and decades of research on just patterns when

449
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 3: it comes to married couples, and basically, John Gotman's research

450
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 3: shows that relationships often unravel long before the first big fight.

451
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,439
Speaker 3: The early warning signs usually aren't dramatic. They show up

452
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,199
Speaker 3: in ignored comments, half hearted listening, and small bids for

453
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,439
Speaker 3: connection that are met with a shrug. A funny text

454
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 3: doesn't even get a reaction, a story gets interrupted, A

455
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 3: partner points out a cool bird or a weird cloud

456
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,679
Speaker 3: and gets nothing back. One moment doesn't mean much, but

457
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 3: over time, those small misses create emotional distance that's much

458
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 3: harder to repair than any argument. So basically, they followed

459
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,920
Speaker 3: a few couples the Gotmins for like many many years,

460
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 3: for nearly a decade, and they found that the ones

461
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 3: who reported more boredom early on were less satisfied later,

462
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,120
Speaker 3: partly because feeling stagnant made them less likely to seek

463
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 3: out shared experiences that kept the relationship feeling alive. It's

464
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 3: so fascinating, right, and I definitely can relate to this,

465
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,679
Speaker 3: not just in marriage but also in just relationships, Like

466
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 3: there is a point where and this was when I

467
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 3: started getting nervous and scared where either I would just

468
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 3: break it off because I was scared that I was

469
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 3: going to be cheated on or it would just happen naturally, right,

470
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 3: Like where you start to like kind of feel complacent

471
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 3: in a way and you don't know what to do

472
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 3: and everything, or if you even hold it out even further,

473
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 3: you start to feel disgusted with each other, Like little

474
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 3: things that used to be cute are no longer cute,

475
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 3: you know.

476
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Speaker 1: So like let's talk about boredom, Like what are your

477
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,400
Speaker 1: what you know, have you ever been in a relationship

478
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Speaker 1: where you were where you had boredom?

479
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I think the boredom stops when the communication,

480
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 3: or the boredom starts when the communication stops and when

481
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,199
Speaker 3: somebody's hiding something from you, you know your partner is

482
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 3: because you're no longer it's not, it's just not. You

483
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 3: have to work on it the relationship. When it comes

484
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 3: to being bored you know what's the opposite of that,

485
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 3: It's like, how do you make things and exciting again

486
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 3: for the two of you? This is a work, This

487
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,199
Speaker 3: is a it's work, Like it's not going to just

488
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 3: happen naturally like it does when you first met, Like

489
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 3: the honeymoon phase is over right.

490
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 2: But I also I like this, this idea of but

491
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 2: when a partner points out a cool bird, I mean,

492
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 2: that is such a simple, simple thought. And what's crazy

493
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 2: about it is that we're inundated with our you know,

494
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:29,199
Speaker 2: our slack our you know, text, dms, Instagram, emails, like

495
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 2: all this stuff, conversations, zooms, meetings, drinks, children, school, like

496
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 2: all these different things, and then all of a sudden,

497
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 2: you come home to talk to your partner and you

498
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 2: want to talk to them about your.

499
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 1: Day, and then the relationship.

500
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 2: Like you never you forget to talk about the actual relationship.

501
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 2: And I think I think that's where, too, where the

502
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 2: boredom sets in, because you're so disconnected.

503
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 3: Well yeah, but also like if you, let's say you

504
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 3: guys were just dating too, It's like, if you pointed

505
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 3: out that bird, you're action would have been a lot

506
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 3: different than it was six years later, right, right, So

507
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 3: everyone's always on their best behavior, right the first few months.

508
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 2: Well, so it's interesting because on Housewives I used to say,

509
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 2: because these there were like fighting and arguing, I used

510
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 2: to say, let's agree to disagree.

511
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, and sometimes we do have to do that.

512
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 2: Right, But I am in my phase of like I

513
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 2: want you to disagree with me, and I.

514
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 3: Want you to tell you what you do want that

515
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 3: I want that.

516
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 2: I want, I want, you know, positive criticism from my

517
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 2: partner because he is my partner, the person that I'm

518
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 2: like going to and saying like, if you are my boyfriend,

519
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 2: I want to.

520
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: Be able to go to you and say, you know,

521
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 1: it's getting real.

522
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 2: I need you to tell me what your thoughts are,

523
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 2: your actual genuine thoughts, not something that's going to make

524
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 2: me feel better or just say something like.

525
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Kelly's always says that disagree to whatever you want.

526
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 3: You want to feel like, you want to feel like

527
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 3: you can trust him to tell you that. Trying to

528
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 3: feel heard, Yeah, you want to feel heard and seen? Yes? Yes?

529
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 3: And do you have you ever felt this, by the way,

530
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 3: have you ever felt this type of yeah? No, not hurt,

531
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 3: but like the.

532
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: I heard, No, I've never been heard before.

533
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 3: You and me both or scene I see you, I

534
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 3: hear you. Don't worry, let me too, I see it.

535
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 3: That's all that matters. And really what matters is if

536
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 3: you hear and see yourself first.

537
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: I mean I think you.

538
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 2: Know, like we've talked about this my you know, my

539
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 2: my ex husband, you know He was like you, it

540
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 2: was like caveman. He was like, you're gonna be mine.

541
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 2: We're gonna be the American couple, even though he's French,

542
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 2: and that's what's gonna happen. And we're gonna have babies

543
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 2: and you're just going to create this image and that's

544
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 2: what's going to happen.

545
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: Then I did, and that was.

546
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 2: Great for him and my you know, this my second relationship.

547
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: He was really adamant about me creating an environment for

548
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 2: him to help his business, and I just didn't.

549
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: Want to do that. Did you know that about Tom?

550
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 1: Just right, someone's chump. Like I want to be someone's

551
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 1: partner in love crime. I want them to do them.

552
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: I me, and then we do.

553
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 3: I just I think though nowadays, with technology, I think

554
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 3: people's expectations of it having to be like fireworks constantly

555
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 3: is out of control. That's not real life. And this

556
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 3: is why I've always said movies like The Notebook, movies

557
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 3: like any of these love stories that we all love

558
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 3: and cry when we watch, it's dangerous. It's a dangerous

559
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 3: message because that is not reality. And I was gullible

560
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 3: enough to believe that I needed to find that type

561
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 3: of love and but if you really watched the movie

562
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 3: The Notebook, Ryan Gosling is stalking her, Like he's straight

563
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 3: up stalking this woman and it's not healthy. But we're like,

564
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 3: oh my god, is that your.

565
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: Stock?

566
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 3: Me too? No, you don't like we don't want that,

567
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 3: like I promise you.

568
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 2: But even like Sarah Deeseka Parker, like he sends all

569
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 2: these emails, like thousands of emails and she like signs

570
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 2: them in her spam and I'm like or in her

571
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 2: whatever her like deleted emails or something, and I'm just like, no,

572
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 2: I want someone to.

573
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 3: Be like, that's crazy.

574
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is crazy.

575
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 3: That's a scary movie.

576
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: Yes, I totally agree.

577
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 3: I mean, have you and your boyfriend boyfri can I

578
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 3: say boyfriend? You guys are partners? Boyfriend partners? Have you

579
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 3: guys have have you?

580
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: Okay?

581
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 3: Fine? Boyfriend?

582
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: Boyfriend okay?

583
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 3: Lover man okay fine, Oh he's more than that. Stop it, lover.

584
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 3: That's how many man male friends do you have? I mean, no,

585
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 3: I have boyfriend. Boyfriend is so juvenile? Okay, so so

586
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 3: what love love partner who I'm intimate with makes it

587
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 3: sound like not right. I can't say his name. I

588
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 3: don't even know his name, so it doesn't matter. Have

589
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 3: you guys gone like, do you feel like he tells

590
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 3: you how it is the way you want him to.

591
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: No, he does not tell me the way it is.

592
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 1: Why he tells me the way that it should be.

593
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 3: He tells me true, he doesn't back down like he does.

594
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 3: He's straight up with you.

595
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. Yes, he's very very good at being

596
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 1: super honest with me. But I also listen to what

597
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: he's saying.

598
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 3: You respect him a lot.

599
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 4: And is it respected?

600
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I definitely, he definitely reciprocates.

601
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 2: He's definitely very interested in what I'm doing, but not

602
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 2: to the point where it's bad. He just wants me

603
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 2: to be great at what I'm doing. And so I

604
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: he doesn't say anything. I always have to ask for

605
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 2: help and he you know, he includes me in what

606
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: he's doing. And you know, I know a lot about

607
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 2: his business because I worked in fashion. I mean, I

608
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 2: didn't work in his business, but I did work in fashion,

609
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 2: so I know a lot about his business.

610
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: So he works in he can have a conversation with

611
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: me about fashion. Yeah.

612
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 3: Wait, so he works in fashion. I'm so confused. He

613
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 3: works in we'll talk offline Okay, let's move on to

614
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 3: my boyfriend AI. Just kidding. More couples are using AI

615
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 3: to handle chat. I love chat. How about good old

616
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 3: what's his name Claude? I like him or it? More

617
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 3: couples are using AI to handle their divorce, and some

618
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 3: couples are actually turning to chat GBPT that is and

619
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,719
Speaker 3: other AI tools to help navigate a divorce. Here's what

620
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 3: local lawyers are seeing. For better and for worse. Communication

621
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 3: can obviously be tricky during a divorce. The process emotional,

622
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 3: the stakes are often high. Increasingly people are looking at

623
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 3: AI basically programs like Chat, GBT and Google Gemini to

624
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 3: help draft text I totally get it, you know, I

625
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 3: totally get it, and emails, particularly in cases with high

626
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 3: conflict spouses or contentious co parenting. I'm seeing a lot

627
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 3: of people. Yeah, anyway, do you use chat GPT?

628
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: Yes? For what?

629
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: For a lot of things, personal work, compiling text messages,

630
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: softening or hardening emails.

631
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 3: Yes.

632
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

633
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 3: Because I'm I'm a straight shooter, I don't have time

634
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 3: to be sure sure And when some people like come

635
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 3: at me for my text, like how cold I was? Like,

636
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 3: first of all, it's a text. Second of all, you

637
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 3: can't hear my tone like it's just because I had

638
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 3: like one word answer. It was like, you don't know,

639
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 3: I could be driving, like what what is this? So

640
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 3: I will ask chat, good old chat sometimes to be like,

641
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 3: can you have reword this for me?

642
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 2: By the way, yes, exactly, I'm like, make it softer.

643
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 2: But I think, for example, in the in the in

644
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 2: the thought of a divorce, especially if it's contentious or

645
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 2: co parenting, I think that's great because sometimes you need

646
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 2: it needs to be diffused, and when you're in the

647
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 2: heat of something, you feel like you're just gonna go

648
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 2: after that person. But at the end of the day,

649
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: there is no there's no way to win when you

650
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 2: are two co parents.

651
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: There is no winning.

652
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 3: The The only.

653
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: Endgame is the success of your children. So if you're

654
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: arguing with a man or a woman about co parenting,

655
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:22,239
Speaker 1: you are sadly mistaken on what the actual goal is.

656
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: The goal is the child, not your ego.

657
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely don't. I don't know.

658
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: Thatt is like, I don't care about your ego.

659
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 3: Well, you know, you can train chat gipt to care,

660
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 3: you know.

661
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: Meaning like meaning like what what Chattychi, what chat gpt

662
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: is doing is it saying if it's be more aggressive

663
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: about being more aggressive about pickup is saying pickup is

664
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: very important. I need you to do this, you know

665
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: if they know the word.

666
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I hear you. I have chat, GPT right

667
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 3: makeup tutorials for me. So it's like, I'm like, wrong products,

668
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 3: How dare you?

669
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: So that is crazy? I mean, I think it's great.

670
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 3: Divorce experts on this pod have suggested that people make

671
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 3: a new email address that is only used to communicate

672
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 3: with your ex, so you only open it and use

673
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 3: it for that reason. That's smart.

674
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: I actually with my with my ax, I told him

675
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: that he could not should not text anymore and that

676
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: everything has to be documented.

677
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: Through email for several reasons.

678
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: One because you have to go into an email, and

679
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 2: number two you have to create an email like it's

680
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 2: actually a different form.

681
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: I think it's great.

682
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 3: They also have divorce communication apps for that now too.

683
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 4: It's great too.

684
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: Wow.

685
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 3: I wish this was around when I was just kidding.

686
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: I wish it was because probably I would have you know,

687
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 2: I would have verbally handled thing, communicated things in a

688
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: different way.

689
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think people who are anti AI

690
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 3: need to honestly, maybe kind of be a little bit

691
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 3: more open to it because I'm telling you, though we

692
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 3: may not like it, or though they may not like it,

693
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 3: look it's happening, right. We cannot change this. AI is

694
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 3: happening in front of our lot, in front of us,

695
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 3: and it's going to affect all of us if we

696
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 3: don't know what the hell we're doing in ten years

697
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 3: from now and AI is ruling the world. I think

698
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 3: it's only to our benefit to educate ourselves on how

699
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 3: this works, because, yes, can it be used in a

700
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 3: way where it may not be ethically you know, something

701
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 3: that people want to get behind maybe, but there's also

702
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 3: positives to this as well. And I think that instead

703
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 3: of looking at like, oh AI is taking my job

704
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 3: or whatever it is, it's like we're gonna have to

705
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 3: learn how to work with AI. So we're gonna have

706
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 3: to do it at some point, and you don't want

707
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 3: to feel behind.

708
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: And I think it's just like having that tool on

709
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: your tool belt, you know what I mean, You're not

710
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: going to use a screwdriver when you need a hammer.

711
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 3: Like hey, it's like it's when like the laptop came out,

712
00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 3: it was like or like.

713
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: Yes, I know, I'm not using that. I'm not using that.

714
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 3: Oh okay, nice exactly exactly, So I think it's only

715
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 3: I think it's what it's only beneficial to everybody. Let's

716
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 3: talk about Blake and Gwen. Shall we?

717
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: Yes? Please?

718
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 2: So Blake and Gwen, they're solid despite divorced speculation. I

719
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: love how everyone has is like it's conscious uncoupling. They're solid.

720
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 2: Everyone has like a word that they're using to define

721
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 2: whatever it is is going on.

722
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: I love them.

723
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: So they're heading into the holiday season as a united front,

724
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 2: despite the rumors suggested otherwise. Shelton is forty nine and

725
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: Stefani is fifty six.

726
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: She looks fantastic. Wait really, I know I said that too.

727
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, she looks fantastic.

728
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I don't.

729
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: She's a year younger than me. She looks unbelievable.

730
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 3: I believe it.

731
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: She's incredible, incredible, it's phenomenal. And he's also a smoke show.

732
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: So they're both like.

733
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Speaker 4: Fifty.

734
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 3: I am shocked.

735
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: I know she's gorgeous. I don't know.

736
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 3: I guess I've never thought about her and her age,

737
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 3: just like.

738
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: Either No, she's been around forever, and I was just like,

739
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: how old, is she.

740
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 3: I wish her makeup line was a little better though.

741
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, So she's winding down a busy twenty

742
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: twenty five together and we'll support each other through an

743
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 2: even busier twenty twenty six.

744
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: So she said, there's no split to the removers.

745
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 2: But here's the situation, and we both know this. When

746
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: you are with when you're partnered up with someone in

747
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: an intimate relationship that has a highest stressful job like.

748
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: You do, it's very very very difficult. Okay, I mean

749
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: you know that.

750
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 3: I mean, I know relationships are difficult.

751
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, so and then you add the dynamic of like

752
00:35:59,600 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: your work.

753
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 3: In addition, I just think people need to mind their

754
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 3: own business. I mean, there you go for real, like

755
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: who started? I mean, even if they're not okay, like

756
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 3: they owe us nothing.

757
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: True story, they don't. But I also think that it's

758
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: a very it's very very difficult.

759
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 3: It is difficult. It is difficult, but I also believe

760
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 3: it can be as long as the communication again is

761
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 3: still intact. I mean, clearly they love each other, and

762
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 3: I mean I just saw a picture of them like

763
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 3: pushing some cart like they were a grocery store. They

764
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 3: seems great. But like you never know, you know, but.

765
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: They go to the grocery store exactly.

766
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 3: I don't even go to the grocery store. I would ducked.

767
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 3: I'm like, whoa there, Nelly.

768
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: Well they're Nelly.

769
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 2: No, they're I mean, they're both pro professional, they know exactly,

770
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: you know, how to navigate.

771
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: Their lives and not worried about I don't me neither.

772
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: I love them. I think they're fantastic.

773
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 3: Okay, So I don't know if you know this, but

774
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 3: I danced with Jack Osborn do you do?

775
00:36:58,840 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 4: You know that?

776
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 3: So I became very you know, I still am, I mean,

777
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 3: a longtime friend of mine, and I have such a

778
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 3: soft spot whenever anyone asks me who my favorite partner

779
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 3: or partners were, and he's definitely up there. And I

780
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 3: just the whole family. Really, it was really sad when

781
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 3: Ozzie passed for me. It was because, you know, I

782
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 3: spent Christmas with them in London one one year, and

783
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 3: God that they were such a tight knit family. I

784
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 3: mean they still are, obviously, they're all so close to

785
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 3: one another, and you know, Ozzie was a legend, and

786
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 3: it was just so it's just so sad, and to

787
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 3: see them the you know, just feel so sad and

788
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 3: to see even Kelly, Kelly danced on Dancing with the

789
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 3: Stars as well, like before Jack did many years prior

790
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 3: to Jack. But you know, it's just really shitty with

791
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 3: what's going on right now with people attacking Kelly for

792
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 3: her appearance. And I'm not saying I've gone through the same,

793
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 3: but I went through something similar and I still am.

794
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 3: I mean, there's so many nick, so many women, and

795
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 3: it is so she's so right, like so many women

796
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 3: that are just coming at other women for their appearance.

797
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: Did you see did you see the video?

798
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 2: I mean it's just like, first of all, I mean

799
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 2: it's just I mean, the way that she articulates it

800
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 2: is just like devastating.

801
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 1: I mean I can't. I mean, I mean, I know

802
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: how nasty fans can be.

803
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 3: No, but it's not just fans. It's like people and

804
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 3: in same with me, And it's still happening. Like on TikTok,

805
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 3: their engagement will go up by a thousand percent if

806
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 3: they do a whole video on like my the way

807
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 3: I used to look versus the way I look now,

808
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 3: Like I was just showing my friend. I think it

809
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 3: was like just three days ago, like it is insanity.

810
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 3: I've never seen anything like it. Their engagement is higher

811
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 3: than mine. And it's like and there's or saying that

812
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 3: they're doctors. I don't know if they are. They're dressed

813
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 3: like surgeons, talking about what I did to my face,

814
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 3: like actually going step by step with a laser and

815
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 3: pointing to what I used to look like in two

816
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 3: thousand and six versus now in twenty twenty five with

817
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 3: like a surgeon hat on, and and it's shocking. It's

818
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 3: just shocking. And people are getting on this bandwagon. And

819
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 3: social media is so great in many ways, but this,

820
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 3: I have to say, just makes it for me. I

821
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 3: don't feel safe. I'm not as active on TikTok anymore

822
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 3: because of it.

823
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: That's awful.

824
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 2: I mean, that's such a good medium for you, and

825
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 2: that's terrible that they use horrible.

826
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 4: It's terrible.

827
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 2: But I mean I also I lost my father. I mean,

828
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 2: they are they do. They have this beautiful, beautiful family.

829
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 2: They when they were in an event like you see

830
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 2: like at least two or three of them are at

831
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: the event as well.

832
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: They are just they're just a spectacular family and lost people.

833
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 2: You cannot judge how people are going to process loss.

834
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: And I don't even, I don't even. I'm just surprised

835
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: that she's out working. I mean, I'm I'm I harold.

836
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: Her for it.

837
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 3: I mean it's probably helping her though, to stay busy,

838
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 3: right right, Also like my when my father died as well,

839
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 3: Like I don't know, I don't even know if I'm

840
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 3: done grieving, Like you just don't know. Grief is not

841
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 3: on anybody's timeline. We don't have any control over it,

842
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 3: and people are going to handle it differently, period.

843
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I could not agree more.

844
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 2: I Mean, one of the things that I thought was

845
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 2: so beautiful is just what he said, kiss me and

846
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 2: hug me tight. I mean, I have never been in

847
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm I have these feelings for my new boyfriend.

848
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: Oh you want so?

849
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 2: Sharon Osborne reveals Ozzy Osbourne's final words to her before

850
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 2: before his death kiss me.

851
00:40:59,000 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 1: And hugged me tight.

852
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: I have never had a relationship with a man like

853
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 2: that where I thought that that's how that's how much

854
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 2: he loved me.

855
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: I mean literally getting emotional. I mean, it's just such

856
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: a it's such beautiful.

857
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,959
Speaker 3: And they've gone through so many ups and downs, right, so.

858
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: Many and so many iterations of their family and their life,

859
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: and I mean, it just it's just been like this

860
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 2: real like roller coaster and it's just I mean, I

861
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 2: just it's.

862
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 3: And obviously yeah and hugged me time, and obviously like Sharon,

863
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 3: where we all just have so much love for the Osborne's.

864
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 3: But you know, I'm I personally am wishing Sharon the best,

865
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 3: you know, because she's gonna she's stepping into her chapter

866
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 3: two though she may not it may be hard to

867
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 3: see that, you know for now, but it's like it's

868
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 3: so I don't know, I think he made such a

869
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 3: huge impact. The whole family did remember MTV days when

870
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 3: they did to Osborne's, That's who I thought when they

871
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 3: told me I was dancing with Jack. That's who I

872
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 3: thought I was dancing with. You're like, no, and and

873
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 3: I have to tell you Jack has made you know,

874
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 3: he has definitely been I would say a mentor in

875
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 3: a way when I was going through my sobriety because

876
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 3: he's been sober for so many years as well, and

877
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 3: like he's such a good person, which means that he

878
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 3: has been raised, you know, in a great family, and

879
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 3: like they're all just so like that's family they're just

880
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 3: there for each other. Oh my god, like them.

881
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 2: But you know, it's interesting because it's like she said,

882
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 2: you know, if only I had told him I loved

883
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: him more, Like, oh, I mean you know, so it's

884
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Speaker 2: like we just have to be so respect.

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00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 3: I knew that. I mean, they there's no way Ozzie

886
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 3: didn't know that though, Like there's you know, there's just

887
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 3: been that they've been through so much together and they

888
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 3: were never going to leave for each other ever.

889
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 2: No, Oh my god, all right, Candy Candy Burrows a

890
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 2: strange husband, Todd Tucker, sends a message of support amid

891
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: the divorce. So Candy, her empire keeps on growing and

892
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: her ex Todd couldn't be.

893
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Speaker 3: Did I wait?

894
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 4: No, when I love her?

895
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: I met her at Brava Con. It's it's recent. I

896
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: met her at Brava Con and she is fantastic.

897
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: I was in the elevator with her and I was like, whoa,

898
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 2: She's like Kelly on my Candy.

899
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: She's like, how are you. I'm like I'm well. It

900
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: was like, was like, I don't what to say to her.

901
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 4: Is she amazing? I mean, I'm very she.

902
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: Has incredible presence. She's very cool. Oh, she's gonna Dancing

903
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: with the Stars.

904
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 3: No, she should, she should.

905
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she's fantastic.

906
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, I just think that's really incredible that on

907
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: an Instagram post he shares clip of Candy and he's like, he's, well,

908
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,720
Speaker 2: who's going to make her debut in the Jukebox Music

909
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 2: musical December eleventh, belting Pink song Perfect, And he just says,

910
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 2: good job, Candy.

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00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 3: He's still supportive. He's still very supportive of her, even

912
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 3: they both seem to be it was amicable and assuming

913
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Speaker 3: the divorce.

914
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

915
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Speaker 2: Last month, the Grammy winner announced that she intended to

916
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Speaker 2: seek a divorce from Todd, whom she shares children Ace

917
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Speaker 2: nine and Blaze six, explaining that she was stepping into

918
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Speaker 2: a new chapter.

919
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Speaker 1: It's a difficult.

920
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: Emotional time, she said in the statement to people at

921
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Speaker 2: the time, but my focus remains on protecting my peace,

922
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Speaker 2: being the best mother I can be and do, and

923
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Speaker 2: co parenting with.

924
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: Love and respect. Candy has also been candid about her

925
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: personal toll.

926
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Speaker 2: Breakup has taken, admitting that she's felt emotionally broken in

927
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Speaker 2: the wake of.

928
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 4: The spill, which is a normal split.

929
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Speaker 1: Wake of the split, I mean, of course.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it also doesn't seem like they hate each

931
00:44:58,880 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 3: other either.

932
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Speaker 1: No, but I mean sometimes you know when you know

933
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: it's not right.

934
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it takes a lot of courage.

935
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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean I.

936
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 2: Told you my story. I was just like, I can't

937
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Speaker 2: do this. I mean, maybe I was not as mature

938
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Speaker 2: in handling you know how I felt about it. Yeah,

939
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: I just knew that it was not right for me.

940
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Speaker 2: So I admired them for being mature exactly exactly. And

941
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 2: you know, sending love because this is not fun obviously

942
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 2: and it's hard. But they have kids involved, which I

943
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 2: don't have any experiences, but you do. But yeah, I

944
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Speaker 2: think it's important they.

945
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Speaker 1: Keep the peace. They do, they keep the peace.

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Speaker 3: Well that was jam Pack, huh happening? So much happening

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Speaker 3: in the world of chapter two. I feel like I've

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Speaker 3: one chapter seven.

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Speaker 2: I know there is a lot, So I have you

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Speaker 2: been struggling to navigate.

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Speaker 1: Your Chapter two? Call us our email us.

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Speaker 2: All the is in the show notes and we are

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Speaker 2: here to help follow us on socials. Make sure to

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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio podcast or falling in love.

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Speaker 1: Is the main objective or is it? I'd love saying

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Speaker 3: That, and I love that you say it, and I

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Speaker 3: love my question at the end, or is it