WEBVTT - Marlins Manager Clayton McCullough Talks Pushing the Right Buttons, Rotation Plans 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.200 Sometimes why you're listening to Fish on first on Foul's territory. 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:25.439 Network, Fish and Filtered, episode one oh nine. We're here 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:29.120 joined by Clayton McCallum, manager of the red hot Miami Marlins, 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:31.360 who have a fourteen and four record in the month 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:33.760 of June. Clayton, how are you doing? I know there's 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:36.159 a lot to get into. Just what's this month? Then? Like, 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:38.360 how fun has it been just coming? I'm sure it's 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:39.800 a little more fun to coming to work when the 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:40.920 team is playing as good as they have. 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:45.640 Good morning, guys, fun to visit with you again, and certainly, 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:47.720 I mean, winning is a lot more fun than losing. 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:51.760 So it's been a it's been a good month so far, 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:55.440 and yeah, a long way to go, but it has 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:58.480 it's been. Guys are in a good spot right now 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:00.640 and you know, really enjoying coming to the all park. 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:02.520 Plan. 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:04.959 Obviously, the big news yesterday was that the Miami Models 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:08.360 designated Christopher Morele for assignment, activating Griffin Cone. I just 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:12.000 talked about, you know, unfortunately the tough move to move 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:14.600 on from Morele, who the team signed to a one 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:17.480 year contract this past offseason, and why just do you 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:19.319 don't think it ended up working out for him here. 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:21.640 Yeah, it was tough. 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:25.240 So I mean I think, you know, going into it, 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:28.600 the hope was that you know, Christopher could come in 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:31.480 and he still he still hit the ball hard, you know, 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:34.920 had bat speed, maybe catch lighting in a bottle. This 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:40.160 situation helps him be a little bit more productive than 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:41.199 he has the last few years. 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:43.119 He's still a talented person and. 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:47.600 Took to first base, was open to that, and it 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:51.080 just you know, unfortunately, the the oblique opening day. Poor 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:53.520 guy misses opening day with that on the shelf for 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:56.240 a little while, you know. And when he came back, Kevin, 0:01:56.360 --> 0:02:00.360 I did want to I think he deserved a shot, 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:02.040 like to get us some regular playing time, like we 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:04.560 were counting on coming into the season to to get 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:06.400 regular at bats. And then as the year went on, 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:09.200 you know, earn what you know, what you get, and 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:14.440 he just you know, no secret, he struggled, and he 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:15.760 was a real pro about everything. 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:15.960 You know. 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:17.919 We sat down week and a half or so ago 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:19.040 and just you know, I let him know that his 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:21.760 playing time was going to really you know, be diminished 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:24.600 here coming up that some other players had had just 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:27.440 performed it. And and Chris understood that and so then 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:29.280 then it's a really tough spot then when you're not 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:33.120 getting any type of regular opportunity and the sample has 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:35.240 already been somewhat limited. I think, you know what, seventy 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:37.920 five played appearances. Now it's it's a tough ass to 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:40.840 crawl out of a hole. So that part of it 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:43.320 was difficult. But then also it just felt like that 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.880 there were players on our roster currently that were just 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:49.160 playing very well, and you know, our best chance to 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:53.320 win to give those guys opportunity. And then it's coincided 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:57.760 with Griffin, you know, coming off the il. So yeah, 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:01.839 I think Chris, I mean, he he was smiling every day, 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:04.480 he kept working, which I appreciate that he was pro 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:07.680 about everything. It just was you know, unfortunately his time 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:09.840 with us just the performance wasn't wasn't. 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:15.480 There then obviously looking ahead Clayton, a lot of injuries 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:18.280 currently on the Steam are a couple it's Junk, Yuri 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:20.720 and Hicks just and the updates on those guys. I 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:22.399 think the Hicks will may come later in the week, 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:25.920 but at least Yuri and Junk. What's the latest on them? 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:29.519 Yeah, So Yuri will throw a pitch design today in 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:33.920 lone depot and following that pitch design, with how he 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:36.680 feels and comes out of it, will determine where his 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:40.600 next appearance will will be. And with Junk, he was 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:44.360 around the team yesterday, came up for family day and 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:47.080 spent the day with us. He's scheduled to throw live 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:51.480 batting practice like two ups and thirty five pitches on Tuesday, and. 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:53.960 Next steps after that. 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:55.720 You know, again this is you know, assuming he comes 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:58.600 out of it feels good, would be looking to get 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:02.760 some type of a rehab start appearance over the weekend. 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:06.000 So that's those two. 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:09.520 And then with Liam, Liam's gonna get some imaging today 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:12.800 on the back just to you know, also try to 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:14.840 have a clear up picture and an idea what's going on. 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:17.400 He felt a little better yesterday, he was still stiff, 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:20.440 some of the rotational moves still bothered him. 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:22.120 We thought it was just more prudent. 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:25.240 Right now to take the aisle stint, give this thing 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:29.159 hopefully the minimum amount, calm down, and you know, get 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:32.719 back a healthy version of Liam, because that's the one 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:35.320 that you know has done some really big things this 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:37.440 year and the one that we're gonna need moving forward 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:39.840 to continue to stack up wins. 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:43.560 As far as jury goes, do you guys, does the 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:45.960 location of where he's pitching, Like you know, in Saint 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:48.480 Louis it's going to be crazy hot in Colorado and 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:53.040 the Sacramento those aren't the best places to pitch. Does 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:55.560 that come into a factor of when you want to 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:58.720 throw them to help him ease in, not ease in, 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:01.160 but you know, give him the best answer success, especially 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:03.480 coming off of injury. 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:04.840 It's a good question, a Jed. 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:09.160 I don't knowice we talk about like the location uh County, Colorado. 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:11.880 We'll have you know, guys will be drawing straws to see, 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:16.880 you know, who wants to take the ball there. So no, 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:19.560 I think it's as much health. I mean, and we've 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.760 been operating with you know a number of bullpen games 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:25.120 or you know, using some guys with bulk, and you 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:27.520 know there's potential that you know, Yuri a couple of 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:32.320 days from now has seventy pitches, say, and you know, 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:35.000 in some ways why not use those here if we 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:39.440 feel like he's healthy and and capable and then just 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:41.440 continue to you know, progress from there. 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:42.640 So that's a possibility. 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:46.760 And I think the it was more about if Yuri's 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:52.240 healthy and can give us, you know, an amount within 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:54.240 an outing that we feel like, okay, because knowing that 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:56.360 you're gonna lose a picture when he comes back, something's 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:56.840 going to have. 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:58.960 To you know, have to happen. 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:02.240 We've recovered and and does he in a spot physically 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:03.840 to go out and compete in a major league game. 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:07.360 And I think those will be the deciding points more 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:08.320 than maybe the location. 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:10.880 Clayton with the. 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:15.080 Sorry, with the afore mentioned injury to Hicks, I'm curious, 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:17.960 does that make Star Wars practically the everyday first baseman 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:19.640 going forward until Hicks returns. 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:22.520 I think Star Wars will continue to get a number 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:25.760 of reps at first base. People still see Norby get 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:30.359 over there some and you know, and Griff could go 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:32.520 over there as well. But this does it potentially help 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:34.839 Griff as he gets you know, as he gets back. 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:36.880 I mean we keep in mind too, he played three 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:39.120 rehab games, so he's he was ready to come back, 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:41.040 but there's also going to be some time for him 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:44.240 to get back, you know, used to playing on a 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:46.960 more regular basis, and potentially does some time at first 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.520 space help that transition is as well? 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:52.359 We'll see, So yeah, I. 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:53.799 Think it will just continue to be kind of split 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:59.400 up mostly between Kyle and Connor potentially griff here in 0:06:59.440 --> 0:06:59.760 the you. 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:00.440 Know the time. 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:04.280 And then also a follow up to that, I guess is, 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:07.200 I'm sure you're just as enamored with Joe Mack as 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:09.880 we have been behind the plate and offensively the Pats 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:13.680 coming together shading for more power. So my question is, 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:16.520 I we see Ramirez, we know what he can do 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:18.600 with the bat, we sort of know what he can't 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.440 do with the glove. I'm curious this team has preached 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:24.520 defensive versatility all year long, why not with Gus. 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:29.120 We still think that Gus being able to catch is 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:32.200 a big part of his value, and so he's going 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:34.080 to continue to catch them in triple A. We have 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:38.600 had some internal discussions about the potential of exploring that 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:43.480 first base uh there, So there's definitely say that we 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:47.400 said it's a potential possibility. But then also that going 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:49.560 to moving away from the catcher position, that point is 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:52.120 it's it's not reversible, like once we once we kick 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:55.000 the tires, then it's then it's done. And can Gus 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:59.640 still we believe I do, can Gus catch you know 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:02.120 X amount of games during the season, can he catch 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:05.960 verse left, start games, verse left behind the plate, and 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:08.880 that's valuable And I mean to pull off first base 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:11.280 like every day, like you have to really hit and 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:12.160 like just DH. 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.000 So there's also some. 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:17.200 How would Gus perform offensively if you only focused on 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:19.520 hitting and Okay, like we don't know that either, So 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.760 we still feel like it's a We're at a spot 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:26.240 where we want to continue with the catching progression. We 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:30.600 want to keep that option open. 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See mintmobile for details. 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:49.240 If you guys are fourteen and four in June, what's 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:50.760 what's the catalyst behind that? 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:51.360 What's working? 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:51.760 Is it. 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:56.439 Just a culmination of the hard work just kind of 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:59.360 coming to a head. Is it just right time, or 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:03.280 you know what? What's the underlying reason for this team 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:06.359 being able to perform like they have in June? 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:09.240 Yeah? 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:11.000 And I think you have to point to a number 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:14.040 of things. I think offensively this month we have We've 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:17.079 had some really good games. We've seen stours here recently 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:20.720 really pick it up. Auto has just been mister consistency. 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:25.240 But Barito has been really good this month. Ruiz has 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:30.000 been very good. So I think the Caseys and Joe 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:33.120 Mack have both So I think there's been offensively some 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:37.160 real progress and the pitching has been, for me, phenomenal. 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:40.720 I think how so many individuals we've seen that have 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:44.080 just taken the ball whenever it's they've been called upon 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:46.760 to do it and whatever they're asked of and help 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:51.560 us navigate through a stretch where we had some guys down. 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:53.920 And then also, aj you've done that, you have to 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.520 you have to get lucky some too. I mean, Schmid 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:58.360 hit a ball yesterday in the eighth like if he 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:00.679 hits it twenty more feet to the left, like it's 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:01.480 it's a home run. 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:02.040 Uh. 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:05.880 You know, you need some make great play. 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.960 So I think during stretches like this, you're also things 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:11.960 you know kind of need to go your way, and 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:15.160 you you you play really well, like which I do 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:17.680 think we're playing well. I think we're playing good baseball 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:19.720 right now, and you get some things to go your way. 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:21.240 You're in a lot of games, you have a chance 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:24.320 for the one break in a game to flip up 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:28.319 on your side and now you end up winning. So yeah, 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:29.880 a lot going our way, but I do think we're 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:31.480 making a lot of our own moments as well. 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:35.160 Yeah, it's even more impressive when you take into the 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:37.320 account the injuries to the starting rotation that you guys 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:41.160 have undergone. Right, So I'm just curious. Obviously you're excited 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:43.400 to get your back dunk maybe a little bit ways away, 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:46.840 but you how sustainable I guess is the bullpen games 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.120 because obviously you need them on the non bullpen games 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:50.040 and because you will. 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:51.000 Not require more roster. 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:53.560 It was just how much longer are you guys expected 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:57.800 to be using a bullpen day every fifth five days? 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:00.320 I mean, I know this has been a really hot 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.680 topping you guys, and you know we should go out 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:07.040 and find just someone that hey, just go find a starter, right, 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:08.839 just having a guy guy who started out a game 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:11.680 before has to be better than the potential options that 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:12.440 you might already have. 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:15.319 And how long? 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:17.920 How sustainable, Isaac, I don't know, We've been running it 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:20.680 now for three weeks or so, whatever it is, we 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.600 can you know, continue in the near term to go 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:29.360 do this, And we felt like, look what happened. 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:29.680 Happened? 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:32.280 Yeah, Junk and Urie Boom basically down at the same time, 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.280 and we were still we were stretching Tyler out at 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:37.199 that time, and we thought, well, it's just try to 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:39.280 get as creative as we can with ways at which 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:42.800 to try to go win games. And I think we'll 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:44.480 continue to look at it that way, and certainly when 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:46.920 Uri gets back in the rotation, you know, we get 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:50.000 jumped back, we hope relatively soon and thinks stabilized from 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:53.040 that end a little bit, but I think the near term, 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.040 until we get some of those guys back, we continue 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:57.679 to you know, if we have an open spot, run 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:01.560 a bullpen game, maybe open for guys or you know, 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:03.000 cut guys short, depending on. 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:04.079 What we have available that day. 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:06.480 And it's really just coming into how do we think 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:09.880 is the best way to win today's game, and then 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:12.680 you know, we're worry about tomorrow when we get there. 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:17.400 Talk about the mentality of the bullpen, I mean, because 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:21.040 you know, when you lose two starters like Uri and 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:25.080 Junk who have been producing and URI's starting to get 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:27.760 on the rise, and then you ask the bullpen to 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:32.040 cover all these innings and the way that they've risen 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:34.400 to the challenge I've been in the bullpens where you 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:36.480 go through stretches where you got to carry some of 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.440 the starting staff, maybe getting some short starts, and it 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:42.800 just seems like it bonds the bullpen even tighter and 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:44.920 everyone's like, all right, get on our back, we're going 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:47.360 and that's what's happening. So talk about like the mindset 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:49.720 of the bullpen right now and what it's been able 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:51.760 to do to help this team have a great June. 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:56.000 Yeah, what you know better than any of us, a jman, 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:58.920 what a a special group out there in the bullpen. 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:01.880 I mean, they're kind of like their own little tribe 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:05.520 within a team. And Brandon Man deserves a lot of 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:06.040 credit for this. 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:06.440 I think. 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:08.840 I mean more than just this moment right now where 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:11.440 guys are stepping up. Brandon has created a culture in 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:14.360 the bullpen where as much as people don't like it, 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:16.640 we don't have someone that throws the seventh inning every 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:20.240 day and this person throws the eighth inning, and you know, 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:22.240 we got okay, Pete's going to close the majority of 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.320 our games. But you know, really these guys just go 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:26.880 in and pitch, you know, whenever they're called upon. I 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:31.920 think Brandon has helped you know, create that mindset and 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:33.600 then you come into now fast forward to where we 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:36.360 are at this point where yes, we are asking Lake 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:39.840 Baker to start games and two days later you're going 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:43.240 to come close the game that they're just willing to 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:47.200 take on whatever's asked of them and very unselfishly what's 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:50.480 in the best interest of the team. And they, yeah, 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:53.240 they know the stakes. Guys are within it. Calus, guys 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:55.800 are aware, they know yet we're running these games. There's 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:57.120 gonna be a lot of them that are used and 0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:00.680 it gets taxed and you know the next day, guys 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:02.720 are gonna have to probably be asked to you know, 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:06.760 going back to back or and they've been great about 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:10.240 they're also their communication with Daniel Brandon to come up 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:11.960 with how they're feeling, and we take that into account 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:14.720 aj you know, player self reportings. 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:16.400 We expect them to be honest. 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:18.040 And if guys say they're a little banged up, like 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:21.280 we recognize what they're going through, that will appreciate that 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.960 and try to take care of him. 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:24.720 As best we can. 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:26.720 And if guys say they can pitch, this is the 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:29.280 big leagues, and you say you can pitch, then if 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:31.320 there's a chance to go win a game, then you 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:35.000 know we'll go, We'll go do that. So but yes, 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:39.120 they have been incredible, and for me, it's it's the 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:42.440 unselfishness they just you know, John King, this guy will 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:47.200 do anything and he has and so you need you 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:49.480 need guys, and you need a group down there that 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:52.760 all they care about is is winning and protecting each 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:53.880 other for this. 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:54.520 To work. 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:59.720 Playing. I'm curious with with Pete. I know, one of 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:02.000 the big things when you guys sawn him, I was like, hey, 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:04.640 maybe this guy could go three straight days, still have 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.480 to happen, Maybe it happens later into the season. Was 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:12.000 he available potentially for that last game or do you 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:13.760 think that could have been an option for you guys 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:15.920 just to see what a three straight days of Pete 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:17.680 could look like. Or I was just still kind of 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:20.160 just having him settle back in after the iyele stint. 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:24.520 Yeah, he wasn't available yesterday. I think you know a 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:26.880 few factors. I mean, it was tougher too that the 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:29.280 day game after a night given, so that is a 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:31.600 really short turnaround for guys, and not just Pete. But 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:33.520 I think a lot of our pitchers talk a lot 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:35.680 about that. There was just not as much recovery time. 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:37.720 So if we were going to do the three in 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:40.320 a row at this point, you know, we're still in June, 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:42.560 that would have been a tough one to ask to 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:45.440 turn around on a you know, day after night, on 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:47.280 a back to back and go three in a row. 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:51.440 So yeah, I think that those things will be on 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:53.080 the table, you know, Kevin, as we go. And we 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:54.600 also have to keep in mind we have over eighty 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:57.640 games left. I believe while it's been a great run 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:01.520 to start June, it's exciting like we have a lot 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:04.200 of baseball ahead of us, and so I think we're 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:07.080 to win and continue to win. It's going to take 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.720 days like yesterday where yep, okay late closed the game 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:11.520 and then we all felt great when lake I did 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:13.840 at least ran out there to close the game. And 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:16.159 you need those things to happen when you're going to 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:19.080 go and sustain stretches of winning, because you do you 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:21.840 have to use a lot of people when you're playing 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:27.520 tight games. When my puppy Bella has something wrong, I'm 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:29.800 not going to go around googling what to do. 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:32.440 Yeah, Kratz, let's have a better plan. Today's episode is 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:36.560 sponsored by the ASPCA Pet Health Insurance program. 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What 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:41.359 has he shown you guys so far and what what 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:43.119 is it that you guys are seeing him that has 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:45.200 allowed you to maybe put him a pretty pretty high 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:48.160 up in the lineup, maybe fourth, fifth spot sometimes up there. 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:49.480 Yeah. 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:51.280 So I think one thing to keep in mind with 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:52.800 with Laos, I mean, he missed a ton of time 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:54.840 recently with injury one like to last year. 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:57.159 So I think this is, you know, we had the 0:18:57.160 --> 0:18:57.880 opportunity to. 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:00.520 Acquire Lao was that he had some under things that 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:03.159 we really value and see is like potentially being a 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:05.080