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Speaker 1: Tom joins us this morning, Tom Mutton, Jerry, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I got good morning. How are you doing morning? We're

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Speaker 1: doing excellent. Your team winning on the road yesterday. And

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Speaker 1: a part of that was this, what do you call

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Speaker 1: the thing you do to James the pass you do

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Speaker 1: to James White, that touch pass? What do you guys

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Speaker 1: call that? And where did that come from? Because now

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Speaker 1: the entire league is doing call like the quarterback's favorite play.

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Speaker 1: You get to credit for a touchdown pass for that.

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Speaker 1: That's why we're talking about here. Yeah, that's you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of a lot of teams are doing that, and

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Speaker 1: it's just I think different ways to you know, take

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Speaker 1: advantage of, you know, some soft edges and you know,

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Speaker 1: really we do so much where we bring James back

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Speaker 1: into the backfield and sometimes it looks like that and

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Speaker 1: he does set and then other times, you know, you

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Speaker 1: can keep running across and the ball snapped and I

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Speaker 1: pitched to him, so he made a great run. I

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Speaker 1: thought Dwayne Alan did a great job on that play,

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Speaker 1: kind of a deacon the defensive end and then getting

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Speaker 1: What is it called? That's a good question from what

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Speaker 1: do we call that. It's just like a half back pitch. Now,

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Speaker 1: if they told you, if they told you to hand

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Speaker 1: it to him, would you still flip it in the

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Speaker 1: air just a little bit to make sure you get

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Speaker 1: the Well, the interesting things if you know, if you

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Speaker 1: throw it and for some reason the ball hands messed

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Speaker 1: up and it drops, it ends up being an inkling.

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Speaker 1: That's right, So the ball handling. In some ways, it

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Speaker 1: might be a little safer pitching it because if anything

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Speaker 1: gets screwed up and ends up being just kind of

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Speaker 1: you get back to the line of scrimmage. But in completion,

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Speaker 1: most teams have the shovel pass you know, to the

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Speaker 1: running back, more up the middle, none around the end.

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Speaker 1: You don't, do you I assume you have it, but

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Speaker 1: you don't use it a whole lot. It's another easy

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Speaker 1: touchdown for the QB. I know we haven't used on

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Speaker 1: you know, shovel toss in a while, but we have it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's in our playbook too. I just think,

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Speaker 1: you know, you're always trying to find ways to create

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Speaker 1: you know, a little softness in the defense, and if

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Speaker 1: you can take a obviously a very low risk play,

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Speaker 1: you know, for a potential you know, big reward. I

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Speaker 1: think it's always worth it in football to do that,

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Speaker 1: and you're always gaging risk reward, and you know, a

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Speaker 1: play like that ended up being a big play, and

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Speaker 1: it's tough to stop, especially when you get fast guys

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Speaker 1: A lot of teams do it, I mean basically every

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Speaker 1: team does it. Now you can give it to running backs,

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Speaker 1: you can give it to receivers, the guys who are

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Speaker 1: good with the ball in the hands, whether it's a reverse,

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Speaker 1: you know, a speed sweep which we do a lot

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Speaker 1: from under center, both that little half back pitch play.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of different varieties you can

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Speaker 1: run it. Just in the end you're trying to keep

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Speaker 1: teams off balance. You mentioned James White. You move around

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Speaker 1: quite a bit in the backfield, and it seems like

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Speaker 1: from the couch watching at home, when you get him

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Speaker 1: matched up with a linebacker, Tom, there is not a

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Speaker 1: more salivating matchup for you as a quarterback. Do you

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Speaker 1: know when you're running the setting the play up and

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Speaker 1: he's in motion, when you're going to get him on

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Speaker 1: a linebacker and get that miss actual like you had

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Speaker 1: for the touchdown yeah, definitely. And that one for the

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Speaker 1: touchdown on Floyd was just a great play by James.

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Speaker 1: You know, the guy was trying to protect his outside

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Speaker 1: and there was nobody out there. So it's really great protection.

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Speaker 1: It takes sometimes a little bit of time for those

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Speaker 1: plays that developed, and I thought the line just played

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Speaker 1: so great yesterday and their ability to keep the pocket

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Speaker 1: clean allowed me to really see downfield and try to

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Speaker 1: pick out the open guys and that's what we needed.

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Speaker 1: A lot of teams are taken, i would say, very

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Speaker 1: conservative approaches to defending US this year, and they're putting

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Speaker 1: and we got to be able to take advantage when

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Speaker 1: we get a more regretive style of play. Is that

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Speaker 1: if he makes even when he knows he has to

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Speaker 1: just I mean, I know I talked about James White

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Speaker 1: and consistent as he's been for as long as he's

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Speaker 1: been here. It's just very incredible thing for me to watch.

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Speaker 1: We would talk as a teammate, We talked early tom

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Speaker 1: We saw him drop a ball yesterday and I couldn't remember.

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Speaker 1: last trump. I know, it's it's it's it's it's harder.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to remember. He's got incredible hands is run

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Speaker 1: he's just it's it's it's an incredible job he has

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Speaker 1: done and he's doing and he's really invaluable to our team.

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Speaker 1: Oh he got thrown into it when Sony Michelle got hurt. Uh.

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Speaker 1: It sounded like the team maybe found out late about

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Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski Tom we I guess were reported Saturday night,

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Speaker 1: are voting the right game in the past game, and

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Speaker 1: he gets many opportunities in the past game. Yes, today,

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Speaker 1: give the ball to James White, what was it eleven times?

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Speaker 1: A number of times between the tackles. You don't want that, though,

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Speaker 1: but we're in a situation where I don't think there's

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Speaker 1: some up and coming guy going against you. Yesterday, Mitchell

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Speaker 1: playmakers is really important to me. But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: Breeze is pretty quick. But when you think about it,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a great skill set to have. I think,

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Speaker 1: you really have to it's really about great decision making

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Speaker 1: when you're doing that, because it's very easy to get

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Speaker 1: And if you're injured, then I think it really hurts

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Speaker 1: Oh who's a Dodger that you guys hated? You or

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