1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Betting Pros. It's time to place 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: your bets. It is me, Joey Paid, joe p. Zapia, 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: and this is BP NFL ladies and gentlemen. We finally 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: got here. The preseason is behind us and we're looking 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: ahead to the future. That's right. Today, we're going to 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: look at some of our favorite picks for MVP, for 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year, everything when it comes to awards, 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the Super Bowl features. We're 9 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: going to talk about all kinds of fun things, our 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: favorite props, win totals, divisions, you name it. This is 11 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: the show for it. So make sure if you haven't 12 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: already subscribed to the Betting Pros YouTube channel, because we're 13 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: here for you to help win you some cash and 14 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: of course to help us along the journey. Terrell Ferman Junior, 15 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: The Undertaker, Andrew Erickson, we're here. We are ready. We 16 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,959 Speaker 1: are locked and loaded, and let's start with the big game. 17 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: Let's just jump in here. And I have made no bones. 18 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: I've alluded to it many times over the preseason shows. 19 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: I think this is a simple one. I think this 20 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 1: is the year for John Harbaugh and Lamar Jackson and 21 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry to hoist that trophy. That's right. I think 22 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: they are very close to being on that track last year. 23 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: Unfortunately it fell a little short in the snow in Buffalo. 24 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: I think this year a chip on their shoulder. Give 25 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: me the Baltimore Ravens at plus seven hundred. Now they're 26 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: not the only ones at plus seven hundred. The Buffalo 27 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: Bills are there as well as the rating defending champion Eagles, 28 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: the Chiefs at plus eight hundred, the Lines at plus 29 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: eleven hundred, and the San Francisco forty nine ers at 30 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: plus nineteen hundred. Those are the favorites, but maybe the 31 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: guys like a long shot as well. I want to 32 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: hear from you, Rope Ferman Junior. Let's talk about it. 33 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: I am locked and load in the Ravens. You can't 34 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: push me off of it. I think they're the most 35 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: complete team. I think Lamar is a little bit frustrated 36 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: that he wasn't MVP last year, considering the year that 37 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: he put up there, and I think this team is 38 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: going to have a little bit of a different attitude 39 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: this season. Where are you going? Is there a favorite, 40 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: a long shot or both that you are investing in. 41 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm closer to the favorites. But I'm sorry, 42 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: I've yet to see anything that has told me any 43 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: different that the Chiefs dynasty is completely over. I just 44 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: really don't. I think that at the end of the day. 45 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: Are still poster Would you like to see something? 46 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: I would love I would love to see. 47 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: Okay, you're eight. Since the year two thousand, no team 48 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: has won the Super has lost the Super Bowl and 49 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: the next year gotten back there except one, and it 50 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 1: was Tom Brady the Patriots and they won. So one 51 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: out of twenty five. Is that enough data to think 52 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: that maybe the Chiefs can't get back there after not 53 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: just a loss, but a crushing loss to the Eagles 54 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: last year? Nope? 55 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: Not enough? 56 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: Not an Okay, I tried, I tried. 57 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 3: Well well during that span. Are the again going? The 58 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 3: Patriots are a team that had won Super Bowls already. 59 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 3: Of all those teams that lost, how many have already 60 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 3: had won Super Bowl? 61 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: Are you trying to encourage Terrella? You feel that's what 62 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: you're trying to do here, Andrew. You're trying to encourage 63 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: him to bettle the Chiefs, and I'm trying to steer 64 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: him away from it. 65 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 3: I think that I think that investing in the Chiefs 66 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 3: to in the Super Bowls never a bad bet. 67 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: But what about you? Were the guys talking about last 68 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: year they can't keep this up? They keep winning these 69 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: bringing this one score games every single week. 70 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: What are the eleven. 71 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: Torell's total? 72 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 3: Overrell, They're gonna be live for the superl. 73 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: Hitting the hammock while Andrew and I may y'all get 74 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: to y'all have it my debate for me. 75 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: I don't even have to talk here. I mean, come 76 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: on going, I. 77 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: Don't know, but I want you to earn your salary today. 78 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,399 Speaker 1: All right, come back, come back, I will shut up. Now, 79 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: go ahead, talk about why you think the Chiefs are 80 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: still a good bad I wanted to give you a 81 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 1: shot to get off of it and not burn your money. 82 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: So I still believe in this Chiefs. D's fits and 83 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 2: Steve's bagnola. They continue to be very very good every 84 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: year and honestly carrying this team. And now you talk 85 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 2: about Isaiah Pacheco, who looks good. And if Isaiah Pachecko 86 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: revers back to a couple of years ago and not 87 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: when he was hurt and injured last year, that's a 88 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: big hole that was missing out of that Chiefs offense 89 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 2: last year. You add in a Racie Rice. However, many 90 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: games we get him. Maybe there's a suspension there that 91 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: comes in the middle, but we still got some Raschi Rice. 92 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: You're gonna get Hollywood Brown a little bit healthier. You're 93 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: gonna get exeber Worthy in another level. And then all 94 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: the reports that I've been hearing all training camp is 95 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 2: Travis Kelce looks like him again, and it looks like 96 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: this team is putting it together. They have revamped the 97 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: offensive line and they said, hey, we are going for 98 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: it again. And at the end of the day, when 99 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: we get into the playoffs, one side of the ball 100 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: has Patrick Mahomes and the other side doesn't. So I'm 101 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: gonna take shit my shot with the side that has 102 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes. So I like them. I think that they're 103 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: going to get there. I think the Eagles did what 104 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: they need to do in the Super Bowl last year. 105 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: We'll see if the Eagles get back, but I think 106 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 2: the Chiefs are going to be angry, pissed off. It 107 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: was a horrible Super Bowl loss, and that's going to 108 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 2: propel them back to the Super Bowl again this year. 109 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: All right, Andrew Erickson. The board is yours super Bowl. 110 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 3: Where you're going, I'm going off the board here. You 111 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 3: did not list my team that I'm going with. I'm 112 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 3: all with the Bengals twenty two to one. I think 113 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 3: that's too long of odds for Cincinnati when you look 114 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 3: at this team versus the other teams the AFC. I 115 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: know the Cincinnati Bengals can beat the Chiefs had to head, 116 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: Ravens had ahead, Bills had to head, and they're a 117 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 3: team that nobody wants to play if they make the playoffs. 118 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 3: The AFC team's got lucky last year where the Chiefs 119 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: or the Bengals started off so terribly they were not 120 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 3: able to sneak in. But everybody knows that when you're 121 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 3: facing Joe Burrow like, you don't feel good about it, 122 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 3: regardless of how bad the Bengals defense is. If you 123 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: score thirty five on your team and your defense, you 124 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 3: might go home the loser that day, even if you 125 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 3: have the more complete team. So I think that the 126 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 3: way the Bengals have handled this offseason differently from last 127 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 3: year and years before where they rested their guys in 128 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 3: the preseason, not the case, like they're ready to come 129 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 3: out guns blazing here, start out hot. And I think 130 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 3: the fact that the Bills and the Ravens play each 131 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,799 Speaker 3: other in week one, you're gonna see these odds dramatically shift, 132 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 3: like after week one, if they beat the Browns in 133 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 3: a good by a good amount, I think that these 134 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 3: are gonna shift way more than twenty two to one odds. 135 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 3: And I think this is the best time to get 136 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 3: on the Bengals. And you know how it is, Joe. 137 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 3: You play the futures like the stock market a little bit. 138 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: I think that investing in the Bengals right now is 139 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 3: the best time to do so. 140 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: I get that. I think you will win money on 141 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: it because I think they will be a playoff team. 142 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: But I think you got to cash out at a 143 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: certain point if you get the option. I'll tell you why. 144 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: I just don't think the defense is good enough. That's 145 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: why I keep coming back to the Ravens. 146 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: That's for a December show. 147 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's for a December show. But Andrew's not wrong 148 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: at plus twenty two. 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The board 182 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: is stacking up right now at Lamar Jackson plus four 183 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: thirty Allen plus six Burrow plus six Mahomes plus six 184 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: fifty Jaden Daniels at ten to one. Then he got 185 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,559 Speaker 1: Herbert at twenty to one, same with Jalen Hurts, Jordan 186 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: Love and C. J. Stroud plus twenty five hundred. So look, 187 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: it's a quarterback award, Andrew Erickson. I believe you and 188 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: I are holding hands on this one, correct now? 189 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 3: That is that is not? 190 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: Go? 191 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 3: Oh okay, well, I'm curious of your your breakdown of 192 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow because he's gonna win MVP if they win 193 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 3: the division. Like the Ravens are gonna win the division, 194 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 3: Joe Burro is gonna win MVP. That doesn't racee n O. 195 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: I think he throws for five thousand yards and becomes undeliable. No, 196 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: he didn't. He threw a forty nine hundred forty nine hundred, 197 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: five thousand yards forty something touchdowns. And because the defense 198 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: is so bad, he wills them to let's say a 199 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: situation where they just miss winning that division or it's 200 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: a tiebreaker situation. Again, it's like, you know, we go 201 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: through little things. It's the Lamar Jackson era. Then it's 202 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: gonna be the Josh Allen one. We had Patrick Mahomes with, 203 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: you know, Okay, we like to spread it around here. 204 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: And I just think the media again, all the defense 205 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: is so bad. Look at Joe Burrow, Look how special 206 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: he is to carry this team on his back. I 207 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: just think that's gonna be the narrative, just like it 208 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: was last year for Josh Allen. 209 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, but he won his division. 210 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: He did, But I don't think you have to win 211 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: the division to win. 212 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 3: Imagine that the Ravens. The Ravens have a better record 213 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 3: than the Bengals that they're gonna decide Will Burrow is 214 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 3: gonna win. 215 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, you throw for forty five touchdowns of 216 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: five thousand yards. 217 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: I mean, well, they gave the First Team QB to 218 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson and gave the MVP award to Josh Allen 219 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 2: next year, so I mean there's no. 220 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 3: Josh all Yeah, but he's still won his the vision. 221 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 3: Like I'm just saying, like you have to come. 222 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: I would throw out I would throw out anything you 223 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 2: think you knew about the MVP award. It doesn't matter 224 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: anymore because they just broke up crazy precedent. There has 225 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 2: never been an MVP that was not First Team QB, 226 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 2: even the year that it was co MVPs. Still the 227 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: first Team QB made the MVP and was one of 228 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: the co MVPs. Like, there's there's nothing to talk about here. 229 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: It's clearly a participation trophy. Now it's going to Joe Burrow. 230 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: They wanted to give it to him last year and 231 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: they can give it to him. And so Josh Allen 232 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 2: now is sitting here like, oh, we finally got Josh 233 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 2: is now we're gonna get Joe theirs. This is clearly 234 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow's award this year. They already teased it up 235 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 2: by giving it to the second team QB last year. 236 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 2: How do you give MVP to the second team QB. 237 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 2: How do you want your MVP on the second team QB. 238 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: If you're telling me Josh Allen was MVP, okay, I'll 239 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: believe it, But he should have been first team QB. 240 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 2: They made Lamar Jackson first Team QB because he was 241 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: supposed to win. MVP is now a glorified participation show. 242 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 2: And guess what, Joe, No matter what happens this year, 243 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: as long as y'all don't look terrible, you're gonna get 244 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: an MVP award. Congratulations me or Joe Burrow or both 245 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: or both. 246 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: I don't know which Joe you were talking about the end, 247 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: Terrell Firman jun your unlikely voice of reason, ladies and gentlemen, 248 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Trell for backing me up. So 249 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: wait ericson and all that arguing. Did you make a 250 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: pick there for MVP? I don't feel like you did. 251 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 3: No, I did not make my pick because I'm not 252 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 3: looking to the AFC to make my pick for LKP. 253 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 3: I'm going to the easy conference in the NFC with 254 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 3: Jordan Love, I think that at twenty five to one odds, 255 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 3: I think that he is the best bang for your 256 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 3: buck when it comes to MVP. Last year at this 257 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 3: time he was fourteen to one, and what happened he 258 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 3: got injured. Last year, they leaned a lot on the 259 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 3: run game. All his receivers let him down. And I 260 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 3: think that when you look at what Green Bay has 261 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 3: done heading into the season, and he's healthy now aside 262 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 3: from this non throwing thumb injury, which he should be fine. 263 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 3: They added another receiver to the full with Matthew Golden. 264 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 3: I think their offensive line is pretty good. It's better 265 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 3: than the Bengals offensive lines, better than some of these 266 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 3: other quarterbacks that are ranked up here in terms of 267 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: their offensive line. CJ. 268 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 2: Strout. 269 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 3: It's better than his offensive line. So and we talked 270 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 3: about it when we breaked we wrote down the NFC 271 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 3: North Division. I don't think this Stefens is that good. 272 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 3: Like I think Jordan Love is gonna have to throw 273 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 3: a lot. I think they're gonna have opportunities. So, yes, 274 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 3: the Bengals offense could have put up bonkers numbers. I 275 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 3: think the Packers are gonna put up some really strong 276 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 3: passing numbers, and I think they're also going to win 277 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 3: a decent chunk of games, especially in that NFC North. 278 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 3: If they win that division, they beat the Lines, they 279 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 3: beat the Vikings, they beat the Bears, they beat the 280 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 3: they win these key match against the Eagles and the Commanders. 281 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 3: Well that's gonna put Jordan Love in the limelight, as Hey, 282 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 3: this guy's bawling out like we want about him for MVP. 283 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 3: And you look at quarterbacks the last two years, only 284 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 3: one guy has a passing touchdown rate top six at 285 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 3: least five point five percent. Jordan Love is the only 286 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 3: quarterback that has that. So I think he's gonna throw 287 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 3: for over thirty five touchdowns for the ten hundred yards. 288 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be in the MVP conversation when 289 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 3: it's all said. 290 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 2: Let's go ahead. Interesting take there, throw out there that 291 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 2: he did not count the Aaron Rodgers revenge game as 292 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 2: a key game for the Packers season. 293 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 3: Oh and Rogers red game too. 294 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: Okay, well, let's not forget that. That's very important. We 295 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: got to circle that all on our calendars, all right. 296 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: Next one, here is a ap NFL offensive rookie of 297 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: the year. And this is a little tricky, I gotta say. 298 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: Last year I was very very clear it was Jaden 299 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: Daniels at plus seven hundred, and if you listen and 300 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: you locked it in your bed hard the way we did, 301 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: then you want a lot of money. But this year 302 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 1: it's a little trickier. You have Ashton Genty at the 303 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: top plus two fifty, cam Ward who's the QB, and 304 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: that's typically tough to beat, although Ashton Genty certainly could 305 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 1: do it. At plus three hundred, not a ton of 306 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: value there, but still a good return on investment. Omari 307 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: and Hampton at plus nine hundred, Travis Hunter at the 308 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: same I'm not touching Hunter for this one, but I do. 309 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: I do find myself looking and I haven't bet it yet, 310 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: but I keep looking closer and closer at Trevon Henderson 311 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: at plus twelve and Tedrow McMillan at plus twelve as well, 312 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: and I see value there where I think, maybe, just 313 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: maybe you sprinkle a little bit there on McMillan and 314 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: Henderson early and then you wait this out and you 315 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: revisit it maybe around week eight. What do you think 316 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: about that approach here? Because right now I'm not really 317 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: locked into one person. I don't know where you are 318 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: with this one. 319 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not really locked into anybody either. I think 320 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 2: Teed McMillan is probably is the bet that I already have, 321 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: and it's probably the one that I'm just gonna go 322 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 2: ahead and say that I'm giving out here. Tat mc millan. 323 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 2: I am just a complete believer in the Carolina Panthers 324 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 2: this year. I think that this is gonna be a 325 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 2: great step above for Bryce Young. They got him that 326 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 2: number one bona fide receiver, and I think that he's 327 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 2: gonna look great over the course of the season. We've 328 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: seen him look good in the preseason and Andy Dalton 329 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 2: throw him alof so like I think that those moments 330 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 2: are gonna happen in the regular season. We're gonna see 331 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 2: a really really good side of Tet McMillan. So I 332 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 2: like him at twelve to one. But somebody else that 333 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 2: I think is very interesting that we didn't talk about 334 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 2: in the odds and he's potentially the starting running back 335 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 2: and it's not even closed and if they figure it out, 336 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 2: he could be really really good. And it's just are 337 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 2: the media members going to vote for him? And that's 338 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 2: Quinn Sewan Juckkins. Quinn Sewan Juckkins. 339 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: Could Oh, I don't think they will. 340 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 2: And that's but that's the question though, that's the that's 341 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: the question. Is the media gonna vote for him because 342 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: he has to make it undeniable? Can he make it undeniable? 343 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 2: Possibly there's a room. I think that the Cleveland Browns 344 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 2: actually are gonna be one of the teams that make 345 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: a very very big leap in terms of their win 346 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 2: total this season. So if quinch Sewn Juckkins is getting 347 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 2: a bunch of touchdowns and a bunch of yards and 348 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 2: he looks amazing over the course of the year, like 349 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 2: he could have a case. It's just the only reason 350 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 2: I'm not one hundred percent there yet is the media. 351 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: The media might not give it to me. 352 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 3: What are what are his odds? Judgens? Are they even 353 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 3: posting a question theres rookie of the years like like 354 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 3: thirty five to one? 355 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: See, I just don't think. I don't think he has 356 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: a chance, especially in the running back class that's got R. J. 357 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: Harvey in it, that's got Amari and Hampton, Traveon Henderson. 358 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: I mean, look, you can laugh, but like if kam 359 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: Scattabou catches fire in the last ten weeks of the 360 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: season or something like that. If he ends up taking 361 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: that roll over, he's gonna be a media darling. The 362 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: media is gonna fall in love with that kid because 363 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: he is just, you know, a little fire hydrant that 364 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: plays for Yeah, but of. 365 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: All those players you listed, the only person that's getting 366 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: more work off the gate if he's there, is Ashton James. 367 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: So we don't know that. I you know, between Ford 368 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: and Samson there and with Judkins, they're working behind everybody. Yeah, 369 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: Jendy's probably the one guy that is clear away you know, 370 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: the guy quote unquote in the backfield, which is why 371 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: again I struggle with this award because I mean, plus 372 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: two fifty, Okay, if you really just believe is GENTI 373 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: you can go all in on that. I just don't 374 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: know because it is such a quarterback driven award to 375 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: a lot of years, and I feel like cam Ward 376 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: isn't getting any respect, isn't getting any love, And maybe 377 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: it becomes the mia culpa of the media Erickson to 378 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: turn that around and say, oh, well, you know, look 379 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: at cam Ward leading this Titans team to let's say 380 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: a five hundred record. If they can get there were 381 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: above five hundred record, that would be something. 382 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 3: I think so, But maybe it's just the fact that 383 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 3: the media is not as high on cam Ward as 384 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 3: NFL analysts are, and I don't know. I feel like 385 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 3: he's still facing an uphill battle to really put up 386 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 3: a great statistical season. That okay, he is the obvious 387 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 3: candidate to win Rookie of the Year offensively, So I 388 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 3: think that in generally speaking, in a weaker quarterback class, 389 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 3: I think that I feel safe for just fading the quarterbacks. 390 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 3: I mean, this class, what was its strength, It was 391 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 3: the running backs. So to your point about Ashton Genty, 392 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 3: he's favored for a reason, but if he misses a 393 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 3: couple of games, it gets banged up. Then it wheels 394 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 3: up for all these other running backs to jump up 395 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 3: and take on that opportunity. Again, trying to forecast what 396 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 3: these odds look like after week one? What if Orman 397 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 3: and Hampton balls out in Week one? Like he's not 398 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 3: gonna be plus nine hundred anymore, Like Trevon Henderson is 399 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 3: playing the Raiders, Like who rushes for more yards in 400 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 3: that game against Raiders and Patriots? Like, yeah, it could 401 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 3: be a wash like Henderson could play better in that 402 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 3: one week, and then the odds are going to dramatically, 403 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 3: So I think right now it's better to get the 404 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 3: long shots on some of the other running backs not 405 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 3: named Ash and Gent. And then for me, I grew 406 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 3: with Furman. Where tedor McMillan I've seen as long as 407 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 3: sixteen one, he was a top ten pick. Sixteen one 408 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 3: is the number one wide receiver That to me just 409 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 3: is like bonkers. Garrett Wilson won this award with eighty 410 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 3: three catches for eleven hundred yards and four touchdowns, Like 411 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 3: that's not that. 412 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: Hard of a no. But he also wasn't in a 413 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: class that had eschen Gent in it either compete. 414 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 2: That's fair. 415 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 3: The only so many strong running backs. 416 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: I'm with you. 417 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 3: If there are so many strong running backs, it could 418 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 3: it could dilute the pool a little bit. Where if 419 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 3: tedrov Villin is head over heel better than every other 420 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 3: rookie wide receiver by a long shot, whereas the running 421 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 3: backs are all kind of like clustered together, like oh 422 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 3: like some good running backs like pretty solid years, I 423 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 3: think that they can lean towards team ac especially if 424 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 3: he's the reason why Bryce Young takes his head forward 425 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 3: like he's the reason why the Panthers are winning. 426 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 2: And also think that we're looking at this of if 427 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 2: it's not Jinx, who is it. I think everybody should 428 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 2: have the mindset of is more more than likely gonna 429 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 2: be jen X. But if it's not, then the flight 430 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 2: gates a open and this is who is not? But like, 431 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: if you ask me, like for sure, who I think 432 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 2: is gonna win, I'm gonna say jen X. Who am 433 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 2: I betting on? Is different because I'm not gonna lay. 434 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna take the two seventy five with jen Zy. 435 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 2: I'd rather take some of the other long shots. But 436 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 2: if you ask me who I think is gonna win, Yes, 437 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 2: jen Zy but ted. 438 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 3: At plus two fifty. 439 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we all agree. McMillan's the wager. But 440 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 1: Gent is the favorite for a reason. Let's talk about 441 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: the AP defensive rookie of the Year. Now, this one 442 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: I feel differently about. He got abdulkar At plus twenty 443 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: eighty five, Jalen Walker plus nine to fifty, Michael Williams, 444 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: Mike Green, Travis Hunter, John Campbell. I do think it's 445 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: Abdul Carter plus oney eighty five, I think this is 446 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: one that you bet hard because I think he is 447 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: going to be a sack machine. He is going to 448 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: wreak havoc in the New York media market. He's gonna 449 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: get a ton of buzz. You're mister Blue, here's mister 450 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: giant here. What do you think of my take on 451 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: Dual Carter here for defensive Rookie of the Year. 452 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 2: I think that it is good. The only thing that 453 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 2: will happen. And as a Giants fan, I've seen it 454 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 2: before his injury, that's it. It turns out that somebody 455 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 2: along this Giants defensive line is gonna get injured. It 456 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 2: was Dexter Lawrence last year's Kevon Tibodaux before that. This 457 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 2: time it would be Abdull Carter. That would be the 458 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: only thing that would derail this. So if you want 459 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 2: to talk about, hey, if Abdil Carter gets hurt, who 460 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: is somebody else that she'll take a shot on. Give 461 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 2: me Shamar Stewart at twenty five to one. I think 462 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: that he stood. I think that there's respect that he 463 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: stood in his values and what he valued himself as 464 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 2: a player. And I think that if you talk about 465 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: this Bengals team and everything talking up this Bengals team. 466 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 2: The defense has to play better. They have to play 467 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: better for all of this, like we're talking about Joe 468 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: Burrow all this stuff. If they give the exact same 469 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 2: defense as they did last year, it's not gonna matter. 470 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 2: So that defense has to be better. Who's going to 471 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 2: make them better? Well, the first their first round draft 472 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 2: picks Shamar Stewart, who was absolute dull. So yeah, I 473 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 2: will buy into Shamar Stewart twenty five to one and 474 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 2: say that he's the reason that the Bengals look tremendously 475 00:19:58,520 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 2: different and they reward him for it. 476 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: All right, let's get your take here. Andrew rickson ap 477 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year. Do you have a 478 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: bet you want to make? 479 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? I like both the bets that you guys made 480 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 3: on the pass rushers, because that's usually who wins this 481 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 3: award and usually goes to the guy that was the 482 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 3: highest drafted. Five to the last six devensive rookie years 483 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 3: have been the highest drafted pass rusher. Are the ones 484 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 3: that have won of the pass rush last year the 485 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 3: exception was with Jared Verse. For me, though, I always 486 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 3: try to find some of these long shots because a 487 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 3: little bit more fun for me. I'm going to the 488 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals with Will Johnson cornerback thirty one to one odds. 489 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 3: He should have been the first round pick, but it 490 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 3: was because he wasn't healthy. But he's healthy now and 491 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 3: he's in camp for the Arizona Cardinals. Arizona also was 492 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 3: twenty fifth in interceptions last year, so I think that 493 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 3: Arizona defense is underrated. I think Jonathan Gannon is underrated 494 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 3: as a head coach. And if this Cardinals defense, which 495 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 3: I think is vastly improved, it's healthier than it was 496 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 3: in past years, if it takes a step forward and 497 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 3: is the reason why the Cardinals are winning games, I think, Well, 498 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 3: Johnson's gonna be out there getting a lot of interceptions. 499 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 3: Who done that play Week one? Tyler Shuck and in 500 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 3: New Orleans Saints. So Will Johnson gets a pick six 501 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 3: week one, you look up. He's not gonna be thirty 502 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,959 Speaker 3: one to one anymore to win this award. So if 503 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 3: I'm going with a defensive back, I like Will Johnson 504 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 3: at his odds. 505 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: All right, Speaking of defense, ap NFL Defensive Player of 506 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: the Year Michael Parsons at plus six eighten Hundredson plus 507 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: seven then t J. Watt plus eight to fifty along 508 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: with Miles Garrett, Nick Bosa at plus eleven, Jared Verse 509 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: plus fifteen. Look, this is usually a sack award as well, 510 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: that's what it's become lately. Uh And for me, there 511 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: was a guy who had seven and a half sacks 512 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: in just four and change games last year. It was 513 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: Aiden Hutchinson. So as long as he's back and healthy, 514 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: one hundred percent of plus seven hundred. Again, it's a 515 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: good story, it's a good narrative. People love that. I'm 516 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,479 Speaker 1: gonna go with Hutchinson for this award. Ericson how about you? 517 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 1: I was so high on Hutchinson both this award and 518 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 1: it was looking correct, it was looking he was gonna hit. 519 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 3: I mean, before his injury, it was mine. It was 520 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,959 Speaker 3: like minus four hundred for him to win this award 521 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 3: or something like that, and you know, we were ready 522 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 3: to bring the ticket to cash out with our money. 523 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 3: But of course he went down with the injury. But 524 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 3: the process was the same where you're trying to find 525 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 3: a pass rusher that is slated to see more sack 526 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 3: production than the year before, and how do you do that? 527 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 3: You just find the guy that had the most pressures 528 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 3: with low sack totals. Who was that last year? Just 529 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 3: talked about him when defensive Rooie of the year Jared Verse, Yes, 530 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 3: fourth most pressures last season, but just six sacks like 531 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 3: And to put it into again into the voters' mindsets here, 532 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 3: let's say Matthew Steffn misses a couple of games. Jared 533 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 3: Verse in those games is just a monster. He's a machine. 534 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 3: He's the reason why the Rams are winning games. That's 535 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 3: how defensive players win this award. So I feel so 536 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 3: weird having the most confidence and defensive player of the 537 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 3: Year coming from an offensive mindset with fantasy. But I 538 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 3: feel just as confident making this bet with Jared Verse 539 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 3: as it did last year with Aid Hudginson lock and 540 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 3: low Jared Verse def as a player of the year. 541 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: All right, Andrew Erickson is in on Verse. I don't 542 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: mind that as a you know, in that fifteen hundred 543 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: rate and certainly not a bad wager. I'm stick with 544 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: Hudginson Torell. What do you like on this board? Uh, 545 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 1: it's a long sigh from a man looking for a 546 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: sack and he get through the offensive line and find 547 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: a pick that he likes for Defensive Player of the Year. Well, 548 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: you could pass throw. You don't have to give us 549 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: a pick. It's okay, No, So I. 550 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: Think I think Parsons would be interesting if I knew 551 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: exactly where he was at, just the complete anger and 552 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 2: the voters getting to fade the Cowboys and voting him 553 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year. Like, I think that would 554 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 2: be a very very interesting move. I just need him 555 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 2: to already be in a spot, but man, I would 556 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 2: love to play that. I ended up just going with TJ. 557 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 2: Watt though. At the end of the day, when CJ. 558 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 2: Watt plays games for the Pittsburgh Steelers, they're a better 559 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 2: football And as long as he's healthy, for me, it's 560 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 2: always TJ. Watt until he's not healthy, Like, that's what 561 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 2: it is for me. That's how good he is and 562 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 2: how much of a difference maker he is for the 563 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers because unlike some other defensive players, like when CJ. 564 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 2: Watt doesn't play, they legit do not win games, like 565 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 2: they actually do not win games. That's how pivotal he 566 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 2: is for the defense. So I'm gonna just roll back CJ. 567 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: Watt at plus nine to fifty. But I'm telling you 568 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 2: I really really wanted to get down on Michael Parsons. 569 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 2: I just need a trade to happen first. 570 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: Fair enough, all right, those are some good picks there 571 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: for Defensive Player of the Year in a lot of 572 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: different takes too, So choose which one you like the best. 573 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to ap NFL Offensive Player of 574 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: the Year Saquon plus five fifty, Oh, thank you, Jamar 575 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: Chase plus nine yes, please, that's where I'm looking in 576 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: right here. Big year for Burrow means big year for Chase. 577 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson plus eleven. You've got Jamier Gibbs plus thirteen hundred, 578 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: Derek Henry plus fourteen, Bijon and plus sixteen. I'm keeping 579 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: this simple. You know, you put a C note on 580 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: Chase and that's a nine hundred dollars return, almost one 581 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: thousand dollars on that one. So that's what I'm doing. Torell, 582 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: What are you doing with this one? 583 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 2: Has MVP and Offensive Player of the Year. We need 584 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 2: to look into that and how many scenes the. 585 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 3: Same person in the last thirty years changed the Player 586 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 3: of the Year to the fantasy. 587 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: Has been the same team. 588 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 2: Hmmm. 589 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: That's when we'd have to let it back. I will 590 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: go ahead and look. 591 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 3: MVP and OFFENSI Player of the Year. Yeah with Moss 592 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 3: and Brady. 593 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 2: Okay, all the way, that's play three. 594 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: And they didn't win the super Bowl. Let me reiterate 595 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: that they did not win the super Bowl. 596 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 2: No, they did not win the super Bowl that year. Yeah, 597 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 2: they did not. I'm just making sure that everybody knows 598 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 2: the Patriots did not win the super Bowl that year. 599 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 2: Give me Jeon at fourteen to one. I just think 600 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 2: Bjon is that that's good. And I think Jon, you know, 601 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 2: we talk about him in Fantasy as Chase Jeon one two, 602 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 2: and I think it really is those guys at won two. 603 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 2: And if you're telling me that they could find any 604 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 2: way to not just sweep the Bengals of all these 605 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 2: awards after they go ahead and give Joe Burrow his 606 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: participation MVP award, then yeah, one hundred percent, I think 607 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 2: that is going to go down to Jeon of how 608 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: good he is. He could He's one of those guys 609 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 2: that's on a short list for a thousand rushing yards 610 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 2: and close to a thousand receiving yards in a season. 611 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'll go with bijeon year. But I will 612 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 2: not lie. Part of me his number is just not 613 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 2: high enough for me. But part of me was very 614 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 2: interested in Christian McCaffrey. 615 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: It wash, you know what, Wow, go ahead. 616 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 2: Just if he if he's there, If this is the 617 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 2: off year we had, the off injury year, this could 618 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 2: be the one not injury year. It would be a 619 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 2: good bet, but I would need I wanted it to 620 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 2: be like closer to thirty to one. I'm not gonna lie. 621 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: Eric. It was actually Tom Brady and Tom Brady who 622 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: won MVP and Offensive Player of the Year. Yeah, I'm 623 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 1: just looking at it, and that's happened quite a bit. 624 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: Where one guy's won both mahomes in twenty eighteen, Matt 625 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: Ryan twenty sixteen, Cam Newton twenty fifteen. Happens actually more 626 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: than you realize. Peyton Manning Adrian Peters had to. 627 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 2: Be Burrows Offensive Player of the Year odds fifty to one. 628 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, but you know what, it's got me. 629 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 2: Thinking, an offensive Player of the year. Go ahead and 630 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 2: put it in. I'm adding it to the catalog. Dog, 631 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 2: what can you do? 632 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: Can you bet him both in the parlay? That's a lot. 633 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: Probably no can't. 634 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 2: Right, but how are they? 635 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 3: But but I think that you have to think about 636 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 3: are they really going to give it to Burrow and 637 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 3: not give it to Chase like. 638 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: I nowadays they like to spread things around a little 639 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: bit post COVID, but pre COVID, like by the boys, 640 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: they didn't like this athlete so much. 641 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 2: I mean, Joe Burrow. Fifty fifty to one, fifty to. 642 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: One, it is. It is an interesting approach to it. 643 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: Andrew ericson what's yours? 644 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 3: Uh So I like the Bjon call. I think that's 645 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 3: sixteen to one or or fourteen to one is really 646 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 3: kind of long for someone that we're basically looking as 647 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 3: the one oh one, and a lot of fantasy drafts 648 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 3: are one oh two, And that's kind of what this 649 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 3: ward is. It's the fantasy football the war like who 650 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 3: scores the most fantasy points non quarterback most of the time. 651 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 3: But for me, I'm going down the board a little 652 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 3: bit here with a player that I think could we 653 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 3: have a monster season And honestly, because of the odds, 654 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 3: fifty to one for Drake London, who was fourth in 655 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 3: the NFL and receiving yards last season, and he's going 656 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 3: to catch a ton of touchdowns this year from Michael 657 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 3: Pennix playing in the Dome. It's honestly, the odds I 658 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 3: just think are way too long for Drake London again 659 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 3: this award when he was to a receiver again. I 660 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 3: don't know how Jamar Chase didn't win the last year 661 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 3: because of take on Markley, That's why. But he won 662 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 3: the Triple Crown. We were on this last year and 663 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 3: that's why I can't back it again because he's not 664 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 3: going to win the Triple Crowd again. 665 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 2: And that's why I'm like, I can't bet on. 666 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 3: Jamar Chase again because I don't think he's gonna win it. 667 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: Just because Antonio Brown do it more than one year. 668 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: I want to say he did. 669 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 3: I have to go back and look what lead the 670 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 3: NFL receiving yards to win the Triple Crown, win the Triple. 671 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: Crown two years in a row. 672 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 2: Jamar cha is having a worst season in winning Offensive 673 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 2: Player of the Year will be. 674 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 3: That's the thing I can't like as a voter. I'm like, 675 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 3: are they going to wait? He was worse than last year, 676 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 3: but now he's gonna win any war? 677 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: I don't. 678 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's going to happen. So for me, 679 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 3: it's going down the last year with Drake London. I 680 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 3: think they just have a monster year at fifty to one. Again, 681 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 3: if it's not Jon that's scoring all the touchdowns for 682 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,719 Speaker 3: the Falcons, it's Drake London. 683 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: All right. Let's do coach of the Year here. Ben 684 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: Jonson plus six fifty, Verbel plus seven to fifty. Liam 685 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: Cohne is ten to one, that Aaron Glenn plus eleven hundred, 686 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: p Carol plus fourteen, Mike McDonald of the Seahawks plus fourteen. 687 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: I'm going Vrabel for this one plus seven fifty. I 688 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: think the narrative is already building for the rebirth of 689 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: New England Patriots, and if they win nine or ten games, 690 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: I think that would be good enough, even if they 691 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: just stiff the playoffs. But ericson, how do you see 692 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: this one? 693 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 3: I don't like the odds of Rabel just because he's 694 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 3: the favorite, although I do agree with you that he 695 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 3: should be the favorite. I lean towards a head coach 696 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 3: that's more offensive minded because they get more credit for 697 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 3: when the quarterback actually plays well. And I'm afraid that 698 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 3: if Drake may plays really well, Josh McDaniels will be 699 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 3: getting more of the credit and not necessarily Mike Rabel. 700 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 3: So for me, I'm going back playing the hits bet 701 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 3: this last year obviously did not work out. Dave Canalis 702 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 3: going right back to the Panthers six, I think the one. 703 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 3: I think that he's going to get a ton of 704 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 3: credit if Bryce Sung takes this step in year three. 705 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 3: And yeah, so canals for me? 706 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: All right, Terrell, how about you? 707 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: I hate to hold hands, but it's canal is too. 708 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, look at that. I'm good with that. 709 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 2: I was trying to so much. I was trying to 710 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 2: switch it up, like in moment, like I was like, oh, 711 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 2: I don't want both of us to have the Panthers 712 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 2: head coaches Coach of the year, Like, but gonna I'm 713 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 2: so boring into the defense too, man, Like I think 714 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 2: Derek Brown coming back into this lineup is gonna change 715 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 2: things so much, and it's gonna become a lot easier. 716 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 2: They're gonna be able to stop the run better, and 717 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 2: they've already started adding those courses. Jac Wren healthier, Like 718 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 2: this defense is a lot healthier. I think Bryce Shong 719 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 2: is taking yet another leap in year three and he's 720 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 2: got the number one receiver, and as long as Miller 721 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 2: states healthy throughout the year, like, I think he's gonna 722 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 2: have a really really good shot at this. So if 723 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 2: they win this division and sneak this division, yeah, it's 724 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 2: gonna be really hard not to give it to Canalis. 725 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: Like I, like Cale said. 726 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,239 Speaker 3: Six, do you guys have any love for So the 727 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 3: other guy was looking at down the bar with stiking 728 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 3: twenty five to one because he checks out the boxes 729 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 3: of if he can get it done with Dana Jones 730 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 3: slash Richardson, like he can win this award. But it's 731 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 3: a matter of if you don't believe that's gonna happen, 732 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 3: then he's obviously cooked. Well yeah, I mean, come on, 733 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 3: so you guys don't believe at all, Like the Colts 734 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 3: are cooked. 735 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that the restaurant's closing. 736 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 2: Let's just go ahead and get to the fun futures 737 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 2: part and you'll see my thoughts on the Indianapolis. 738 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right, Well, one more award to 739 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: give out comeback Player of the Year. This is where 740 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: I think the McCaffrey plus three hundred is interesting. Dak 741 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: is at plus three hundred Hutchinson plus two seventy. But again, 742 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: if we give him Defensive Player of the Year, we 743 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: can go around. It's interesting. JJ McCarthy is coming back 744 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: from an injury but never played a game. He's plus 745 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: nine hundred, Max Crosby twenty two one, and Trevor Lawrence 746 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: plus five hundred. McCaffrey is the one that I would 747 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: circle here at three to one. Dak isn't a bad 748 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: wager either, Terrell, what are your thoughts on this one? 749 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy ten to one, Okay, I'll take it. I 750 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 2: mean this the QB whisper of Kevin McConnell, and I mean, 751 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 2: did we see what he did to Sam Donald? And 752 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 2: right now everybody's telling me that JJ McCarthy is just 753 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 2: a way better quarterback than Sam Donald. So I mean, 754 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 2: if he takes Sam Donald, get rid of the interceptions, 755 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,479 Speaker 2: the horrible interceptions last year, get some more consistent production 756 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 2: over the course of the year, and the rushing upside, Yeah, 757 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 2: I think that he's going to be a pretty good bet. 758 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 2: And I think the Vikings are going to be in 759 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,479 Speaker 2: it for this division as well. So yeah, ten to one, 760 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 2: I'll take it. 761 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: Ericson comeback player of the Year. 762 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 3: We're hand holding again, Terrell Furman, like though Jim mccartlin. 763 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 3: For me, at ten to one, the Vikings win total 764 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 3: is higher than both the Cowboys and the Jaguars, and 765 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 3: yet both Trevor Lawrence and Dak Prescott have lower odds 766 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 3: or shorter odds to win this ward. That doesn't make 767 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 3: any sense to me. Again, how many games the Vikings 768 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 3: win this year is going to be put on JJ 769 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 3: McCarthy's shoulders and he's gonna get a ton of credit 770 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 3: for that to win Comeback Player of the Year. So 771 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 3: I think this one's easy. Give it to the quarterback, 772 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 3: young quarterback coming off the injury. 773 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: All right? Coming up next our division winners and win 774 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: total favorite picks here Before we get there, just a 775 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: reminder join our discord again, bettingpros dot COM's last chat. 776 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: If you're betting NFL, NBA, MLB, it doesn't matter. 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I'm gonna take the 786 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: Vikings plus two ninety to win the NFC North. As 787 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: Ericson was alluding to, I guess I should reconsider maybe 788 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: a little sprinkle on JJ McCarthy as well on comeback 789 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: Player of the Year if I feel this, so, perhaps 790 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: I will revisit that after the show, and I'll take 791 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: the Patriots over nine and a half wins a plus 792 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: one ninety. Call me a homer. I don't care. I'm 793 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: usually not. Actually I bet the Patriots under last year, 794 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: and I did it very publicly on this program, and 795 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: I was right. And this year, I think it's gonna 796 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: be a different story. I think this team is gonna 797 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: be very different. It's kind of an edge to it. 798 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: It's got a good schedule. I don't think people are 799 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: gonna see them coming. I think if everything breaks right, 800 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: they're a ten win team and plus one ninety is 801 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: what you're getting. Treel Furman Junior. Let's talk about the 802 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: Texans here to kick things off. 803 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, horrible division. I mean I would love the faith Texans, 804 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 2: but at this point, nobody is even competent to come 805 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 2: sniffing clothes at this point. And even though I think 806 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 2: it'll be a rather underwhelming year for the Texans, just 807 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 2: the entire division, Like I'm banking on cam Ward having 808 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 2: an amazing rookie season and dethroning them because I don't 809 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 2: think the Jags are worth anything. Well, the Colts are 810 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 2: for sure not worth anything. And so yeah, give me 811 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 2: the Texans here plus one oh five. It feels like 812 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 2: very free money. And then from b wins Total, you 813 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 2: guys know that Sam Darnold is still a starting QB, 814 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 2: right and he no longer he no longer has Kevin 815 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 2: McConnell giving him the Michael's Secret stuff in the back 816 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 2: of the locker room. That's just giving him superpowers. And 817 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 2: not to be trash, this man is going to be horrible. 818 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 2: I'm down on the Seahawks overalls a year. There's questions 819 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,240 Speaker 2: along the offensive line. I think that's going to be horrible. 820 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 2: They were the second worst offensive line last year. Yeah, yes, 821 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 2: they did get a rookie that is pretty good, but 822 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 2: I still think the offensive line is going to be 823 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 2: bad and that's not going to with things up for 824 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker in the run game. They're going to be 825 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 2: down in games and then Sam Darnold's have to throw 826 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 2: to keep up and then that's when the interceptions go 827 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 2: and it won't be long until we start calling for 828 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 2: Jaln Milroe. So give me the Seahawks under seven and 829 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 2: a half wins plus one forty. 830 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: All right, ericson what are some of your favorite win 831 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: totals or division bets before we move to the fun 832 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: stuff here on the program. 833 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 3: Well, I'm this is a fun bet for me. Panthers 834 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 3: plus four to twenty five to win the NFC South, 835 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 3: and they don't take the qualify for going from last 836 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 3: in the division to first. It's because of a fifth 837 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 3: rule tie breaker with the Saints last year, so spiritually 838 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 3: they're following the pattern going from last to first in 839 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 3: the division. So Panthers are going to win the NFC South. 840 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 3: And then my favorite win totals Cardinals over eight and 841 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 3: a half wins. They have a really easy schedule to 842 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,720 Speaker 3: start off the year. I think the defense has vastly 843 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 3: improved compared to last season. Investing in the draft, I 844 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 3: think the offensive pieces you're gonna take a step forward 845 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 3: with Kyler Murray, Marvin Harrison Junior, and Trey McBride. I 846 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 3: think he's gonna find the en zone a couple more 847 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 3: times in last year. So maybe the over on car 848 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 3: most eight and a half wins. 849 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: A couple more with double as output from last year. 850 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: That would be nice, just saying that would be nice. 851 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to some of the fun futures 852 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: we're talking about, and I'm gonna start with most regular 853 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: season passing yards to lead the league in passing yards. 854 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Joe Burrow. That's the theme of 855 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: the show today. Plus four eighty. That's a really good 856 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: return on investment. Then here's one that I think is sneaky. 857 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: I like to look for the low numbers. Last year, 858 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: I was looking at that Derek Henry nine to fifty 859 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: and a half of the rushing total. He got that 860 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: at Week nine last year. He was very weird. Dusted 861 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: that one. I got another one. I think we're gonna 862 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 1: dust this season, and it's a low number. Stefan Diggs 863 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: total receiving yards seven to fifty and a half. I 864 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: think he crushes this. I think he gets close to 865 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: a thousand. He looks sharp. Maybe not so sharp in 866 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: early September, but I think we can catch up and 867 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 1: make up some ground. Remember it's seventeen games, it's not 868 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 1: sixteen anymore. So I think this is very achievable here. 869 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: And then there's a FanDuel special I think is kind 870 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: of fun. Patriots and Jaguars to each win more than 871 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: seven and a half games, and the Panthers to win 872 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: more than six and a half. You can get all 873 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: those things right. It's five to one. That's a fun 874 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 1: little special for you. I like special bets. I don't 875 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,800 Speaker 1: about you, guys. Andrew Ericson, walk me through some of 876 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: your specialist bets or your most special or you're a specialistist. 877 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:19,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, super Cali Frederill x bilis specialist bets 878 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty five. 879 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 3: Not a specialist. But I'm also a fader of the 880 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 3: Seattle Seahawks along with Treel Furman. Okay, so I'm going 881 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,760 Speaker 3: to bet then to finish last in the NFC West 882 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 3: plus one sixty five on DraftKings Sportsbook. I just think 883 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 3: all those other teams. Again, it would have to it 884 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 3: would take an injury for Matthew Stafford or Rock Party 885 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,439 Speaker 3: to really put the Seahawks in a position where they're 886 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 3: going to finish higher than some of these other teams. 887 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 3: Really like all the other teams in the division. So 888 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 3: Sam Darnold's never really been a winning quarterback aside from 889 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 3: last season when he was in the perfect offensive ecosystem. 890 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 3: So taking the Seattle Seahawks underwin total and then to 891 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 3: finish the last at plus money and then my favorite 892 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 3: long shot fun bet Jordan Mason to lead the NFL 893 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 3: in rushing touchdowns at plus six five hundred. Again vikings Love. 894 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 3: We think they were gonna be above average offense this year. 895 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 3: That brought in Jordan Mason to be their red zone back. 896 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 3: He's going to score the touchdowns. And if it's not 897 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 3: jaj McCarthy dropping back to throw forty five plus times 898 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 3: per game, they're gonna be giving the ball to Jordan Mason, 899 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 3: and I think he's gonna score a boatload of touchdowns. 900 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 3: So it's sixty five to one odds. That's my super 901 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 3: fun bet for the twenty twenty five NFL season. 902 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: All Right, Terrell Furman Junior. Nobody does fun quite like you, 903 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: So let's give it to the people. What do you have. 904 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 2: Ericson yet again thinking small? I have two bets for 905 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 2: the worst record in the NFL, Sam Darnold and the 906 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 2: Seattle Seahawks at forty to one. I mean, first of all, 907 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 2: their wins total is just way too high, so the 908 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 2: fact that they could potentially be the worst record, absolutely yes, 909 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 2: forty to one. And then the Indianapolis Colts have ties 910 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 2: to the Manning family. Why do you think Daniel Jones 911 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 2: was named the starter? Why they don't want Anthony Richardson anymore? 912 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 2: Woody dropping the woody toy, Andy dropping the woody toy. 913 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,280 Speaker 2: I'm done playing with you. I want buzzlight gear coming 914 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 2: over there from freaking Texas next year, and Daniel Jones, 915 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 2: you're gonna make sure we get them. We are not 916 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 2: giving up on you. Shane Stiken said it. He's the 917 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 2: starting quarterback, and I don't want anybody to think that 918 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 2: we're giving our starting quarterback up leash. They don't have 919 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 2: a Lee show on them because they want to lose games. 920 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 2: Seventeen to one for a team that is attempting to 921 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 2: lose every single game this year. And let's add on 922 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 2: to the fact that they're horrible in Week one and 923 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 2: they're going up against the Miami Dolphins. So let's just 924 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 2: chop that up as an l because it was gonna 925 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 2: be between the Colts and the Dolphins worst record, but 926 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 2: the Dolphins are gonna win Week one. So I mean, 927 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 2: it's comical that Daniel Jones, after what he did to 928 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 2: the New York Giants, is a starting quarterback the next season. 929 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 2: No way, no way. Seventeen to one for the worst 930 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 2: record in the league. They're one hundred percent tanking for 931 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,919 Speaker 2: arch Manning one. 932 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 1: I can't argue with the logic. It's very sound, Tourell, 933 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: it's very sound. Again, unlikely voice of reason, Torell Furman 934 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,439 Speaker 1: Junior back to back here, all right, give me one 935 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: more here, Jayden Daniels, you've got a possible future bet 936 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: as well. 937 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 2: Yes, Look, if Saquone is hurt, somebody else has to 938 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 2: lead the NFC East in rushing, and nobody else in 939 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 2: the division knows what they're doing at the running back position. Apparently, 940 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 2: literally everybody else in the division has no idea what 941 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 2: they're doing at the running back position. So guess what 942 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 2: Jane Daniels twenty to one to be the leading rusher 943 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 2: in the NFC East. All I need is. 944 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 4: A Saquan injury and then the misfortunes of everybody else 945 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 4: at the running back spot is going to cancel each 946 00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,919 Speaker 4: other out, and Daniels is going to lead the NFC 947 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 4: East with like nine hundred rushing yards. 948 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,760 Speaker 3: I so wanted to bet into this market with Jakoy 949 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 3: krossky Merritt. When I looked at it last week, his 950 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 3: name wasn't up there, And now it's up there and 951 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 3: it's eleven to one. He has the second shortest odds 952 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,280 Speaker 3: next to Saquon, which is ridiculous. 953 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,319 Speaker 1: Maybe it makes you like Daniels even more. I think 954 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: those are really good. 955 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, I think that the play on the 956 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,760 Speaker 3: quarterback and just fading every backfield not same the Eagle. 957 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: Taking the under fourteen hundred and yeah, fun. 958 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 3: Sake, I think that's the way to play it, like, 959 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 3: instead of just taking the under on his rushing total, 960 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,399 Speaker 3: cashing on Jayden Daniels and fading every terrible backfield for 961 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 3: the nfseas. This is a great call of Furman. 962 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 1: Appreciate That's why you save fun Furman for last when 963 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: it comes to fun bets on the show. I've learned 964 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 1: this over the years working with Terrell. Great stuff boys. 965 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: As always, what's your favorite bet on the future? Is it? MVP? 966 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 1: Who is it? Get Let us know what are your 967 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 1: favorite bets are. Drop your comments below. Subscribe to the 968 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 1: Betting Pros YouTube channel, and don't forget to ring the 969 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 1: belt that it goes ding soy, you never miss a 970 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: piece of content here on Betting Pros. That'll do it 971 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 1: for all us with the story of the game goes 972 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,959 Speaker 1: on for Terrell, Firman Junior and the Undertaker Andrew ericson 973 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: I'm Joey p. We'll see you next time, Giz. 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