1 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature future production of I Heart Radio. I'm 2 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology 3 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and today on the show mirror Cats. 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: What are they? Why do we love them? What are 5 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: the horrifying, salacious details of mere cat murders? And where's 6 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: the love for their kinder cousins? The banded mongoose? Discover 7 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: this more as we answer to the angel question or Hua, 8 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: what is it good for absolutely mating? Yeah? No, that 9 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: was I think it was a little pitchy. Joining me 10 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: today is host of the podcast Hood Politics, co host 11 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: of the Red Couch podcast, Poet Rapper, political activist, and 12 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: author Propaganda. Welcome, What out? What Out? What out? Team 13 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: mer Cats? Did you like? Did you like my singing? 14 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: I did? It was the singing was incredible? That what 15 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: is good for for mating? And it's like there are 16 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: such facts in that, like just you set a mouthful, 17 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: like yeah, one might even say, I myself am a poet, right, 18 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: One could say that you've you've you've turned a phrase 19 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: here there Anyone could say that, Yes, doesn't make it true, 20 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: but you could say it the words I am a poet. 21 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: You have photo freedom to allow to come out of 22 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: your mouth exactly exactly. It is technically a sentence in 23 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: the English will language that I can't say the free 24 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: country well properly. I heard through the grape vine that 25 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: you are a fan of mere cats. This is not 26 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: a rumor, this is true. I just I think they're funny, um, 27 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: just out of you know, the cursory knowledge I have 28 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: of them. Just like they just stand as tall as 29 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: a regular school ruler and just sunbathe and they just 30 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: like just post it up. They travel in packs. It 31 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: just looks like they just they chilling. I'm like, hey, 32 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: you're like it's great, y'all just stand up in sunbathe 33 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: and just kicking it. You know. They're just so funny 34 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: to me because I'm like, why why are you shaped 35 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: like that? Like why are y'all still? Like what is this? 36 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: It's just they're just funny to me. Now I get 37 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: it because they kind of they look a little bit 38 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: too big for their boots, you know, like they're they're 39 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: just like they're like standing up on their hind legs, 40 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: Like what are you doing? Who do you think you are? Yeah? 41 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: Why are you doing this? Are you? And are you 42 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: intimidating somebody because I'm like, you don't look scary, you know, 43 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: but I know not to cuddle you, Like I could tell, 44 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: like I probably shouldn't cuddle this thing. But I'm like, 45 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: that's like, you look funny. Man. Yeah, they're standing there 46 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: and giving you a look, and it's like, well, who 47 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: are you trying to fool? Man? I know you're an animal. 48 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: I know you're not a person. Yea, look, you're not 49 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: fooling anyone. But then they don't they don't stop doing it. 50 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you are not the only one who loves 51 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: mere cats because it is there, I guess the soap 52 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: opera slash reality TV show Stars of the Animal Kingdom. 53 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: There was that show mere Cat Manner, which I get. 54 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: Do you remember that I never actually watched it. First 55 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: time I ever heard those two words together. Well, so 56 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: I never watched it. It was basically, I believe a 57 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: show was it on Animal Planet, might have been on 58 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: Animal Planet. They followed some mere cats and presented it 59 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: sort of like the Real Housewives but mere cats. And yeah, yeah, 60 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: I mean I think they tried to make it. I 61 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: think they did try to give it the the veneer 62 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: of like a serious kind of documentary thing, but it 63 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: really was just Real Housewives but with mere Cat. Okay, yes, yes, 64 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: I love it. When the first time I took my 65 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: child to the zoo, don't judge me, but the first 66 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: time I took her to the zoo, I was just 67 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: excited about her seeing the mirror Cats. She introduced herself 68 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: to the Flamingos, though, which was, so my name is 69 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: so that's so cute. But do you like the mirror Cats? Sure, daddy, Yeah, no, 70 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. It's sort of like 71 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: when you're trying to get someone to like music that 72 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: you like and you're having them listen to it, and 73 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: it's like when you take someone to see your favorite 74 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: animal at the zoo and you're like looking at them 75 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 1: and you're like, you like this, right, yeah, like like 76 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,799 Speaker 1: it's a cool little dude, right, that's right looking at it? Yeah? 77 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: And no, I mean yeah, it's cool. I guess. Yeah. 78 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: They're talking through the song. You're just like, man, no, 79 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: listen to the side, talking through the whole thing. Hey, 80 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: what do you guys trying to eat? Bro? And I'm like, 81 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: but do you hear that? Okay? Uh, I don't know. 82 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: Tacos it's always the right answer. Yeah, you gotta focus 83 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: on the mirror cat. It will hurt my Like I 84 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: love the I love the otters at the zoo, like 85 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: the river otters who goof around. They're always like jumping 86 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: in and out and I'm showing people like look at 87 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: them though, and if they're just like yeah, okay, all right, 88 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: it's like that. I take that personally and it's disappointing 89 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: because I'm like, no, but you get it. It's an 90 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: otter and they're just like running around, you get it, 91 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: Like this is like jumping in and out of the water, 92 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: like right, yeah, exactly. There's also another show coming out 93 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: called Meet the Mere Cats, which so mere cat manner. 94 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: I guess the reboot is going to be uh narrated 95 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: by Bill Nigh so the British guy, fancy British guy. 96 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: But then the Meat the Mere Cats is going to 97 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: be narrated by Rob Delaney. I think it's a better fit. Yeah. 98 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. If you've seen Snoop Snoop Dogg narrate 99 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: the Lizard Hunt, Oh my god, it was one of 100 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: the greatest things I've ever seen in my life. Snoop 101 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: is hilarious, but yeah, no, man, I feel like I 102 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: should have been first to market with this mere cat thing. 103 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: I didn't know it was like full show. See. Sometimes, man, 104 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: when you get an idea, you gotta like, you gotta, 105 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: you gotta put it out there, because I could have. 106 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: I could have been on this mere cat wave. It's 107 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: not too late, though. There's a new wave because like 108 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: the reboots coming out and the Meat the mere Cats 109 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: is coming out. So, uh, mere cats are having another 110 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: moment in popular culture. Yeah, it's happening. Okay, I gotta 111 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: get something in there. I can be third in line. Yeah, yeah, 112 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: still makes money on third. Let's see like mere cat. 113 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: I mean, we've got mere cat manner. They like the 114 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: alliteration in the time, so there's like mere cat manner, 115 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: Meet the mere Cats, mere cat mama's uh you know yeah. 116 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: It was just yeah, it's like moms. Yeah. No, that's 117 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: perfect because that is actually an integral part of the 118 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: mere Cats society. The most drama is the mama's Let's go, 119 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: So I did a good transition, Yes you did, you did. 120 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: So let's first quickly say, like, what is a mere cat? Right? 121 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you know everyone's seen Lion King. It's basically timone. 122 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: It's not a cat. It's only about as related to 123 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: a house cat as a hyena is. So housecats hyena, 124 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: they're both both in like this larger group of animals 125 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: that are all somewhat related but not closely related. But 126 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: mere cats are mongooses, so they are a Mongoose's I 127 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: think that when people think of a mongoose, they don't 128 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: think mere cat. It just like doesn't. But that's they are. 129 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: They're a mongoose. They're a mongoose. Sorry to be the 130 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: one to break it to everyone, but you know, yeah, 131 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: I knew they weren't cats, but I also knew they 132 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: weren't a mere because I don't know what the hell 133 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: of mere is. Yeah, I don't know, like what, I 134 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: don't know. It's a it feels like it feels slightly 135 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: like a negative connotation to like a mere cat, like, oh, 136 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: you're hat that's crazy. I never thought of it like that. 137 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: That's yeah, you know, And I think that's part of 138 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: the funny of mere cats, because it's like, well, what 139 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: are you right, Like, y'all look like nothing else. Yeah, 140 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: it's really a it's really a mere mongoose, mongoose, a 141 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: mere goose. So Most mongoose species are found on the 142 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: African continent, but they're also found in southern Asia and 143 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: some coastal regions in the Mediterranean, So they like sort 144 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: of like dry savannah scrub areas. But they can be 145 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: invasive species. So the small Indian mongoose is considered one 146 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: of the world's most terrible invasive species. So it was 147 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: introduced to the Caribbean and Pacific islands including Hawaii, often 148 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: buy sugarcane plantation owners trying to use them to kill 149 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: snakes and rats, and they have since wreaked havoc on 150 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: the indigenous species and have caused a number of extinctions. See, 151 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: just like they're colonial overlords. They just did the same 152 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: things to the animal kingdom as the human counterparts did. 153 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 1: See yeah, yeah, I mean it is uh, it is unfortunate, 154 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: but yeah, they really kind of are a smaller version 155 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: of the colonizers. Look at that little face. That's the 156 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: space of a murderous colonizer. That's what it is, a 157 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: little colonizer. They are quite cute, but yeah, it is 158 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: an international criminal who has, you know, driven many species 159 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: to extinctions and then smiles the whole time. Look at them. 160 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: But luckily mere cats are not environmental troublemakers like some 161 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: of their fellow mongooses. Mere Cats live in Southern Africa 162 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: and arid savannah regions in Botswana, Namibia, and South Africa. 163 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: So it is not the only mongoose specie that lives 164 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: in Southern Africa. There's also the banded mongoose, who actually 165 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: leads a somewhat similar life to the mere cat. And 166 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the banded mongoose later because 167 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: I think they're really cool. But you know, I know, 168 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: mere cats are sort of constantly on everyone's mind. They're 169 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: they're the ones that the paparazzi are really harassing. So 170 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: we we do have to we do have to talk 171 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: about the elephant in the room, or I guess the 172 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: mere cat in the room, the mongoose in the room, 173 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: the mere cat. Many mongoose species are solitary. They just 174 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 1: eat snakes and insects, you know, go around like Ricky 175 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: Ticky tavvy, remember that, like saving boys, saving little boys, 176 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: saving little boys with their little animal brains. Yeah, but 177 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: mere cats are highly social and living colonies. They're also 178 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: called packs or mobs. I know, just like thinking of 179 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: like like a little little mafia, Like, what are you 180 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: looking at? Yeah, that's what they So they really just 181 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: gang banging when they standing up like that pretty much. Yeah, 182 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: these packs are called you social. They are similar to 183 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: the colonies of bees, ants, termites, and naked mole rats. 184 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: So you social just means that there are dominant breeding 185 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: females and subordinate colony members who do not generally breed, 186 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: and they work together to help raise the brood of 187 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: the dominant females. Yeah, so that's that's why. You know, 188 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: with bees, you got your queen bee. It's the same 189 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: thing with ants and termites. You have a queen aunt 190 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: or queen termite that is the one procreating. The rest 191 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: of them don't really procreate. In insects, they accomplish this 192 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: through weird genetic shenanigans and pheromones. But in mammals, the 193 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: way that you social behaviors come up is much more 194 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: dramatic because they don't have pheromones. They don't have genetic 195 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: shenanigans to help enforce a you social hierarchy. Wait, wait, 196 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: way back up. They don't have pheromones period. Well they 197 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: may they may have some, they may have some mating pheromones, 198 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: but they don't can bees. The queen has queen pheromones 199 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: that she used to suppress the reproductive system of subordinate females. Yeah, 200 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: she turned on a birth control by her yep, yep. 201 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: But before we get too much into their social structure, 202 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: because it's very complicated and dramatic. So here's just some 203 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: basic facts about mere cat daily life and what they 204 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: look like, and you know what what their general deal is. 205 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: So they're about like you mentioned earlier, they're just like 206 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: about a foot tall. They're not big. They're under two 207 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: pounds um. So for the Europeans out there there, or 208 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 1: Canadians actually everyone I think right other than the US 209 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: thirty centimeters tall and uh, just under two pounds it 210 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: is nine. They're very fluffy. They have a pointy little 211 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: tail a bit shorter than cat's tail. They got a 212 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: pointy snout, little digging claws. Their claws are actually quite long, 213 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: but they are mostly used for digging. And they've got 214 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: that beautiful dark eyeshadow um and tan fur. And they 215 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: love to stand up and just hold their little paws 216 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: on their bellies. Uh it's adorable, and like to moan 217 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: from lion king. Meercats love to eat insects. That's their 218 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: favorite food. Uh. They will eat on occasion scorpions, amphibians, reptiles, 219 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 1: even small birds. So nothing's off the menu for them. 220 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: The menu. Yeah, no, they're not. They are not on 221 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: any kind of special diet. They will eat what they 222 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: can eat. The fact that they can kill scorpions and 223 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: they can kill snakes, and they have some resistance to 224 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: scorpion venom and snake venom. People have this concept that 225 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: meercats are just always out there ripping snake heads off 226 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: and eating them like spaghetti and killing a bunch of scorpions. Generally, 227 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: the they really do just eat regular old bugs like 228 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: beetles and grubs, and if they encounter a scorpion, they'll 229 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: eat it. Uh. And they do a really good job 230 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: of ripping off the stinger. They like, really impressive. Yeah, 231 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: they it's kind of if you have any sympathy for scorpions, 232 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: it's kind of sadistic because they rip off its stinger. 233 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: They'll like rip off its claws, uh, and just sort 234 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: of viciously pull off all its limbs before eating it, 235 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: probably still alive. I would love to meet a person 236 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: that has sympathy for a scorpion, which is some sympathy. Yeah, 237 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: my wife has a scorpion tattoo because she's a scorpion too. 238 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: There it is, Yeah, and it's definitely the most I mean, 239 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: it's the most badass looking in sect. Like they look 240 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: hard like yeah, there's I mean full respect. So the 241 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: idea of you looking at a scorpion and not being like, yeah, 242 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: that's scary. You like, well, there's nothing else to eat, 243 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: so I mean, what part of it hurts us? All right? 244 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: So take that part right. It's got a harpoon for 245 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: a butt. Yeahs off its butt off? Hey man, watch 246 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: out for the butt though, Like that's brilliant, you know. Yeah, okay, okay, 247 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: mere cats, you're bored and fuffy dangerous. I like that. Yeah, 248 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: no they are. Oh it gets it gets much much better. Yeah, 249 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: they can kill cobras. It doesn't happen very often, but 250 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: they will sometimes send out an alarm call that's basically 251 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: like a recruitment call. And so so everybody comes together 252 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: and we'll chase off a cobra, sometimes even kill the cobra. 253 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: A cobra bite could kill them, but they are very fast, 254 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: very careful to try to avoid getting bitten. But according 255 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: to Marta Manser, a twenty year mere cat research veteran. 256 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: She says that cobra encounters are very rare, and seeing 257 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: it so often on documentaries may actually mean that someone 258 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: like someone making the film is actually introducing Yeah, yeah, 259 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: manufacturing an incident, faking it. Look at instigators, Yeah they are. 260 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: I really don't like that, you know what, because like cheating, man, 261 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: it is cheating. It's like, look, I think that it 262 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: seems that cobras and mercats generally don't like to mess 263 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: with each other. And if you're just like, you know, 264 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: going to the cobra and said did you hear what 265 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: they said about you? And then going to the mirrorcats, 266 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: did you hear what that cobra said about you? And 267 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: then making them fight, it's like, mean, girls, Yeah, it's 268 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: not reality TV anymore. It's it's contrived, you know. Yeah, 269 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: that's I'm not feeling that. And especially it's like, yeah, 270 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: you're pushing these fools to the extreme. Now. Obviously I've 271 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: never been on any sort of like animal shoot, but 272 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: I imagine that, Uh yeah, it's six months of nothing, yeah, 273 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: and then and then you then you go get a 274 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: cup of coffee and then all the action happens. And 275 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: I mean like Planet Earth, which is an amazing, you know, 276 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: just amazing footage. It took them years of literally just 277 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: like sitting in the worst possible places for human body 278 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: to sit in with their video cameras for hours and 279 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: hours and hours of absolutely nothing happening. I don't know how. 280 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: I don't know how you do that. I can't imagine, 281 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's just I can't imagine, you know, I 282 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: could understand being someone getting to the breaking point of 283 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: just throwing a snake. Yeah, you know what, just somebody 284 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: go get a cobra. Man like I need to go home. 285 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: But it doesn't it doesn't make it right. But I 286 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: do understand that human being has certain limits. But again, 287 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 1: like mere cats, I think they're super interesting all on 288 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: their own. You don't need to throw a cobra into 289 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: the mix. And we're actually, when we get back, we're 290 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: going to talk about mere cats society and how it 291 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: is way more brutal than you would expect from the 292 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: cute little buddies who just they look so cute, but 293 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: they are devious, cold blooded murderers like five year olds. 294 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: And we're back, and when you look into the face 295 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: of a mere cat. What do you see? Do you 296 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: see something cute or cold? Little eyes full of betrayal, 297 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: murder and southern fuge. Man, now that you say that, 298 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: Like I thought they little eyeshadow was cute, but now 299 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, they're goth. Yeah, I didn't even think 300 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: of him as God dang extremely goth. All right, they're 301 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: they're not They're beyond hot topic goth too. Yeah. Yeah, 302 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: come on, man, they're not hot topic goth. They are 303 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: They're beyond mall goth even even I don't even know 304 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: the level like this. These are levels of goth that 305 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: I think have been not recorded in human history. Yeah, 306 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: I oh no, none about this. They fly in the 307 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: translate golf so, like I mentioned earlier, they are you social, 308 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: so they form packs of up to fifty individuals typically, 309 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: though there are fewer there. I think the average is 310 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: about twenty. But yeah, they can be form huge, huge societies, 311 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: and the packs are run by dominant females. So hey, 312 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: look I love it for feminism. Girl Boss, girl Boss 313 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: boss Bay. Yeah, um, she she's she's a she's a yes, 314 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: slay queen quite literally. As we soon discussed, the larger, 315 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: more aggressive females tend to become the dominant matriarchs of 316 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: the pack also called the mob, and only the dominant 317 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: female and dominant male is allowed to breed, so they're 318 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: the only ones having offspring. And it's like, you know, 319 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: might mix, right If you're the biggest, baddest female of 320 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: the group, you bully all the other females into letting 321 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: you be the only one breeding, and you bully everyone 322 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: else into taking care of your kids. God, dog man, 323 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: don't yeah, don't be the second place. That's gotta be miserable, 324 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: No wonder it's so violent because I'm like, can't nobody 325 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: get note Yep, only y'all, and I gotta take care 326 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: of your children. Yep. This is for the birds. Brutal. 327 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: I mean mongooses they are monkeys, um, and mongooses are 328 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: are what mirror cats are. I'm just oh, is mongy 329 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: the plural of mongoose, mongese or mongoose is? I think? Yeah? 330 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: I love it. Okay, that's good. Yeah, it's a monkey's 331 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: On the surface, it may seem like they have a 332 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: really nice, functioning society of cooperative little mirrorcats. Um. They 333 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: take turns babysitting, digging burrows, hunting, and keeping watch for 334 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: predators and threats and taking care of the pups, the 335 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: little babies. They're classic standing post that they do is 336 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: their lookout stance, so that's when they are on the 337 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: lookout for danger. Bang yeah. And they have different alarm 338 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: calls depending on the type of predators, so terrestrial versus aerial, 339 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: so that their fellow merecats note where to look and 340 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: to run from. So if like they see a hawk, 341 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: they have a call thing like the dangers coming from 342 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: the sky. And if they see, you know, some kind 343 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: of terrestrial predator, they go, hey, somebody's coming on the ground, 344 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: and the mere cats will either duck from from the 345 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: aerial threat or they will gather together and like sort 346 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: of keep a lookout for whatever is coming from them 347 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: on the ground. And they'll also have different levels of urgency, 348 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 1: so like if it's a really big threat, they'll sound 349 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: much more urgent, and if it's just like maybe not 350 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: that big of a threat, they just like, hey, check 351 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: that out. Just make sure you see that. They also 352 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: like to get to the highest ground possible when they're 353 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: looking out for threats, which me if you are a 354 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: researcher or a park ranger or a photographer or anyone 355 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: just hanging around where mere cats are, they will stand 356 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: on you. That's hilarious. That's the picture I've been looking 357 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: at this whole time. I'm like, this is hilarious. This 358 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: is my dream. If you're still, if you're quiet and 359 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 1: still enough and they trust you, because like if you 360 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: if you are like around their place enough and they're like, okay, 361 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: this this whatever, this human is, there of no threat 362 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: to me. They will use you as a perch to 363 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: get a better view of stuff. Yeah, dude, like you demied, 364 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: you made it into the squad. That's dope. They just 365 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if you furniture or if it's like 366 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: at some point you're gonna have to like do your 367 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: your your rotation with babysitting. They just hand you the 368 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: baby and all ways of instructions. Yeah, just mere cat talk. 369 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: And they're yelling at you like I don't understand why 370 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: you don't get this. They're like, look, the scorpions are 371 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: in the fridge. You reheat them at three degrees for 372 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. It's so easy. Listen, listen, take the butt off. 373 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: I don't understand why y'all can't figure this out. How 374 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: you'll collapse in over just take the butt off. Unlike 375 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: ants and bees, who have very rigid youth social structures, 376 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: so the queen is very They've evolved to be very 377 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: efficient at cracking down on dissidents. Mere Cats have more 378 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: there's more opportunities for rebellions, so the pack structure is 379 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: more fluid than the colony structure of bees. Uh. So, 380 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: lower level females will often try to break the rules, 381 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: which can lead to a lot of drama. And when 382 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: I say drama, I mean literally murders in fantaside. It 383 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: gets chez. So scientists, yeah, scientists are very judgmental. Like 384 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: there's this Nature article titled quote cute mere cats actually 385 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: vicious baby killers, which I just coming down hard on 386 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: the mere cats. Uh you know, judge little Yeah. A 387 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: little context is King Fan like, hey do you I mean, 388 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: come on, now you are now I would like you 389 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: yoh no, you know we live in Okay. Like sounds 390 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: like a case of libel or slanderers slander, but I 391 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: mean it is true. They do. They do kill babies sometimes, 392 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: So the subordinate females reproductive systems are not suppressed with 393 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: pheromones like in bees. Instead, it's the matriarchs willingness to 394 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: bully kill their offspring or exile subordinates. That keeps them 395 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: in line. My lord. Yeah, the bullying can be so 396 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: intense and the stress and stress them out so much 397 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: that like they can actually buy. Just through the sheer 398 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: force of bullying cause their fertility to suffer to like 399 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 1: they become less fertile because the dominant female is bullying 400 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: them so hard. You who Brooklyn, Straight, New York. Listen, 401 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: if you touch any of these men, not even the 402 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: ones I won't. If you touch any of them, I 403 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: will murder your children and turn off your fallopian twos. Dang, 404 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: say something, try it again, you know what I'm saying. 405 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: Like I just pitched you a little mirrecat going to 406 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: pick up an insect, and then the girl just knocking 407 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: it out of her hand, like you ain't ready yet, 408 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: that's mine insect? Like why are you just randomly bullying me? 409 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: Put that in set down, go give me that scorpion, 410 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: take off its but do it now, now bow and say, queen, 411 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: here is your score. Thank you. You know what I'm saying. 412 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: I don't like it. It's cold. Heat it up. Yeah, 413 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: these are mere cats are getting shoved into the lockers 414 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: so hard they lose their ability to reproduce. It's good, 415 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: it's yeah, dang turned off your ovaries. If a mere 416 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: cat subordinate tries to mate and is caught, she will 417 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: be ruthlessly attacked by the matriarch and must literally grovel 418 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: at her feet to regain the matriarch's favor. They will, 419 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: they'll grovel. They'll like roll over and grovel to try 420 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: to get back into the pack. Makes me so sad. 421 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, listen, girl, you don't need her approval. Well, 422 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,719 Speaker 1: they kind of do because if they get if they 423 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: get kicked out of the pack, because life in these areas, 424 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: like in the Savan, where there's so many predators, it 425 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: can be really tough, and so they can die without 426 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: the safety of the pack. So getting exiled from the 427 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: pack is often deadly. But once in a while it 428 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 1: will work out in the rebellious subordinates favor because she 429 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: might go on and start her own colony. If she 430 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: happens to find an eligible bachelor and has some babies, 431 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: starts her own college, she might become the matriarch of 432 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 1: a new colony, and she's going to be just as 433 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: ruthless and brutal as the old matriarchs oppressed using the 434 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: tool of the oppressor. It's so sad. Yep, it's the 435 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: story as old as time or as old as meercats. 436 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. Who eats meercats? See, 437 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: there are a lot of birds of prey, I would 438 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: imagine because I'm like, if I'm a just mid level predator, 439 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,479 Speaker 1: I would be like, yeah, this, I could do this. 440 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: You know, if I'm a young cheetah, which isn't a 441 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: mid level, but if I'm a young cheetah and I'm like, 442 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 1: when you got run too hard, I'll get this one cat, yeah, 443 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: I think. Okay, So the main I'm looking it up 444 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: because like, while there are a lot, there are so 445 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:42,719 Speaker 1: many predators. Sometimes their territories don't exactly overlap with mere cats, 446 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: but snakes are one of them. So like, even though 447 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 1: mere cats can kill snakes, sometimes snakes can kill meercats, 448 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: especially younger meercats, um jackals, and birds of prey such 449 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: as eagles. Okay, yeah, there's a danger from there's danger 450 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: from the sky, there's dane, you're from the ground. There's 451 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: danger from under the ground because of the snakes. That's 452 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: why they had at perch. Okay, it makes sense. You know, 453 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: you gotta have a whole team of people on the 454 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: lookout while the one person is getting busy. That's cold, 455 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: it is. It sucks. Hey what you're doing in there? 456 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: Hold on, watch the door. It's like a high school party. Yeah, 457 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: you're just like, watch the door. I want everybody to 458 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: watch the door. Yeah yeah. Man, Well if we're all 459 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 1: watching the door, clearly nobody's going in because you're making 460 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: us all watch the door. Hey man. Anyway, yeah, and 461 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: if if one of those subordinates actually does manage to 462 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: have offspring, say they mate, they don't get caught mating, um, 463 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: and then they actually have their offspring, the matriarch, more 464 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: often than not, we'll try to kill that subordinate's offspring 465 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: so they with often with a witness too, like like yeah, yeah, 466 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: because it's like it's about the message. Yeah, it's about 467 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: sending a message. In a message. This is awful, mirror cats. 468 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: I'm disappointed, guys. I'm impressed, but I'm also disappointed. It 469 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: does explain the like, you know how like timone is 470 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: like he's got issues in the Lion King. We don't 471 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: talk about it much, but he's got deep insecurities. Yeah, 472 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: he's like he kind of gaslights pumba. He's like, oh, 473 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: you know, no, that was my cool idea. He's deeply insecure, 474 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: very jittery, very afraid of like you know, of his 475 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: friends betraying him. I think, like, you know, he's this 476 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: is his background. His life was like he was like 477 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: Brand from Game of Thrones essentially. Yes, his family trauma 478 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: is just kind of playing out as a backstory for 479 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: this lovable cartoon of another family trauma where your uncle 480 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: tried to kill you, right exactly. Yeah, this movie is 481 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: about this movie about family trauma. I think so we 482 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: just I mean, the kid's dad, the Lion kids dad 483 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: dies and he like tries to cuddle. Is dead dad. 484 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: It's dark. It's dark man. And he was killed by 485 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: his uncle. Yeah yeah, Like, hey, hey uncle Scar, it's 486 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: a weird name you got there? Oops killed my dad? 487 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: Hey man, I don't know, man, I kind of think 488 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: you killed my dad. I think, look, you know, I 489 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: want to play we with you, but I think he 490 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: killed that. Hey Champ, Hey little bud, listen, come on, 491 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: how you doing. I don't really care. Listen, your dad's dead. 492 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened well, yeah I do, but 493 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: I'm the king now, Okay, the beasts kicked him real hard. 494 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: Now he is dead. Don't question. And also get out 495 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: of here, kid. Yeah, I'll call you up on your birthday. 496 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: Call you on your birthday. That's not to say, though, 497 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: that the matriarch is the only one ruthlessly committing in fantaside. 498 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes subordinates will try to rise up against the matriarch 499 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: by killing her offsprings. So subordinate might be pregnant and 500 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: be thinking, oh, like if I have these pups, you 501 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: know they're probably gonna get killed by the matriarchs. So 502 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: you know, she strikes first by trying to kill the 503 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: matriarch's offspring and maybe even tries to take the matriarch's 504 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: place by by fighting with her like literally, you know, 505 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: like taking over the throne. Yeah, shooting her shot, Yeah, 506 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: taking the throne. Yeah, good luck. There is no try 507 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: only do with these mere cats, because yeah, if you 508 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: try and you don't do, you're dead or yeah, and 509 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: then you're eaten by a bird of prey. And it's 510 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: like this is really worth it, right, what a hard life? Yeah? 511 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: And I mean, like like I said earlier, you know, 512 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: this question of like, well, why do mere cats subject 513 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: themselves to this horrible tyranny? You know, life alone as 514 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: a little mere cat. You know, they're there, are five 515 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: dollar foot long, they're tasty treat for so many things 516 00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: in the savannah. It's it's dangerous out here. Yeah, best 517 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: try your luck. Yeah, yeah, you don't want to be 518 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: a little five dollar foot long and like around jackals 519 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: and hawks, you don't have no chances. Yeah, you best 520 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: run along home home, you sit right on the couch 521 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: while a queen, king and king, queen and king go 522 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: get it home. Sit here, watch my babies. Yeah, no, exactly, 523 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: because like this is the gamble, right, which is you 524 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: can't you can't have offspring if you're dead, if a 525 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: jackal eats you, you can't have offspring. But maybe you 526 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: could sneakily have offspring if you are able to do 527 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: it with enough like kind of discretion in your in 528 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: your mating autocracy, or if some day you managed to 529 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: either start your own mob or take over the place 530 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: of the rulers, so you at least have a chance 531 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: because you're alive. So yeah, I mean, you know it 532 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: is it is a real a real gamble. It's a 533 00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: real tortal existence, vicious mongoose man? Have you read? Uh, 534 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: white fish don't exist? So it's Lulu Miller. She's from 535 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: Radio Lab the Pot So she wrote this book. She 536 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: was like, it's basically about her like categories in life, 537 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: what a success? How did you picture your future? Right? 538 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: And how we put these categories around things that really 539 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: don't have to be there, right, So as a as 540 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: a jump off, she was like, well, if you compare 541 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: a salmon and a toothfish to a cow, and you 542 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: were to ask which one of these animals are more 543 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,959 Speaker 1: related to each other, and she's like, well, from a 544 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: taxonomy perspective, the toothfish is more related to the cow 545 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: than it is the salmon. Right, So then she goes 546 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: through all these fish in the ocean and she's like, 547 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: you know, actually every fish in the ocean is something else, 548 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: Like they're all none of them are fish, like as 549 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: we know it, they're all something else. So then she's like, 550 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: it's the same way as like you go to a 551 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: mountain and say every animal on that mountain is all 552 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: one species, it's all the thing. And she's like, that's 553 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: just all they have in in you know, in common 554 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: is location. So so she was like, so ultimately again 555 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: as a springboard for her own life, like maybe maybe 556 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: success isn't what I think it is, Like maybe it's 557 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: something else. Whatever. It's this great book, but that like 558 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: blew my mind. You know what I'm saying when you're 559 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: just and she was saying that there's like pushing the 560 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: industry to be like we need to do away with 561 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: the term fish, and then I switched me as like 562 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: a non expert. I was like, so, then what's on 563 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: my plate? Then? You know what I'm saying, Like she 564 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 1: was like, well, what it is is on your plate? 565 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: A salmon? Salmon's on your plate? And I'm like, was 566 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: that fish? Like no, it's actually something else. Like anyway 567 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: I thought about that when you was like, what's a 568 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: humanless mermaid? Yes, you know, no human parts added mermaid. 569 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: It's a humanless mermaid. That's brilliant. Yeah, so I just 570 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: thought that. He was like, they're actually a mongoose. It's 571 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: like I would have never of all the animals I was, 572 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: I would have never. I wouldn't like have a little 573 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: moving arrow to point at which one do you think 574 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: this animal is? Like? What? Yeah? I mean, it's it 575 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: is incredible because it's like just a few adaptations, like 576 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 1: probably their society and being able to stand up a 577 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: little straighter that they can view a little farther in 578 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: the structure of their they're like mere cat culture probably 579 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:43,280 Speaker 1: shaped their bodies such that they do look different from 580 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: most other mongis. Also, it's interesting, so a hyena and 581 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,879 Speaker 1: a mongoose or a hyena and a mere cat are 582 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: more closely related than like a hyena and a dog. 583 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: Is like, yeah, yeah, they should have been they should 584 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: have been friends, and you know what mean I mean. Also, 585 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: they're they're also somewhat related to because they are technically 586 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 1: in the philoforma I think um clade. I don't remember 587 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: what it is, but it's like they are. There's this suit, 588 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 1: this big group of animals that includes like all all feelines, 589 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: so like lions, cats, everything, also hyenas, also mongooses, and 590 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: then some other ones weird weird animals like Fausa's and 591 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: the bent wrongs, and they're they're just like it's they're 592 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: not that closely related to like weasels, for example. It's crazy. 593 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 1: Yeah see I but yeah, I could picture a weasel 594 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: like I feel like, okay, that's your cousin. I see that, 595 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: but like heang yeah ya, all right, well there it is. Yeah, 596 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: And speaking of one of their relatives, We're actually gonna 597 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: talk when we get back from the break about one 598 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: of their close relatives, the banded mongoose. And I'm gonna 599 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: say it's unfair that mere cats get all this attention 600 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,919 Speaker 1: in the banded mongooses do not, because they are way 601 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:10,720 Speaker 1: nicer than Okay, way more chill, and we are back, 602 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,879 Speaker 1: and I want to talk about the banded mongoose. They 603 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:19,720 Speaker 1: are the mere cats, lesser known cousin who I think there. 604 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: They don't win the popularity contest. They don't get the 605 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: good publicity, they don't get all the attention, they don't 606 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: get all the book deals. But they are way nicer 607 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: than the way cuter in terms of their behavior or 608 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,959 Speaker 1: guys I know right underappreciate. It's like the nice nice 609 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 1: monkeys finished last, you know. Yeah. I was like we're 610 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: in an eighties movie right now, Like the sweet one 611 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: just finishes last, the shy the shy one, and then 612 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: they like take down their their ponytail and glasses and 613 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 1: suddenly they're very hot and attractive mongoose. Yeah, and you know, 614 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: and and the bully in the bully loses the basketball game. Right, Unfortunately, 615 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: sure is not not a teen movie. Or maybe fortunately, 616 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with fortunately. I'm gonna go with fortunately. 617 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 1: So the banded mongoose, Uh, they do not have that 618 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: that cute eyeshadow. I think that's like that is what 619 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: does it for the mere cats. Also the fact that 620 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: they have that really cute standing pose. I think the 621 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: banded mongoose is kind of slouch a little more when 622 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: they're standing, so they don't have this good posture. Yeah, 623 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: it's it's the posture like that. That's a good lesson 624 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: for us, right, like posture and makeup. It's like, you know, 625 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: if you shoulders back, have good posture and then just 626 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: like put so much eyeshadow on, that's the cheek codes 627 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 1: but a little rouge you'd be all right. Right. They 628 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: have some cute little stripes on their backs. They have 629 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: little pink noses. I think they're quite cute. They're a 630 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: little bigger than mere cats. They stand a little taller. 631 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: They're a little over foot long, a little little chunkier. Um. 632 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: But just like the mere cat, they live in large 633 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: groups in Den's but don't really have the brutal tyrannical 634 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 1: society that mere cats have. So they are found in 635 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 1: savannah areas of Central and Eastern Africa just kind of 636 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,760 Speaker 1: they I think they start to go into South Africa, 637 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: but not as far as the mere cats do. So 638 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: their dens are much more transient than merecats, So they 639 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: will change den's every few days, or maybe they'll take 640 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 1: advantage of abandoned termite mounds there. You know, they're just 641 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: like they're kind of they're kind of hippies. It's like 642 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 1: a placelets groovy, right, Yeah, they couch surf, except the 643 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 1: couches like a termite mound. It's gross, man, couch and dirty. 644 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,959 Speaker 1: Got it's got termites. I don't know if you know. Yeah, yeah, 645 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 1: I don't know. Man. I think you're gonna get bed 646 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: bugs yeah, or butt bugs, but bugs, that's gross. If 647 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: they can't find a din, they will all sleep together 648 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: in a big mongoose pile with their butts together in 649 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,359 Speaker 1: their heads facing outwards to detect threats. Like just a 650 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:13,879 Speaker 1: big bouquet of mongoose is it's adorable? Is adorable? Yeah? 651 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: Just what to but but but to but just and 652 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 1: and and and even and with like much better like 653 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:28,319 Speaker 1: this like community protection, but not from a bully perspective. 654 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,320 Speaker 1: It's like, no, I'm not being bullied into this because 655 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: if I don't protect you, you're going to kill my children. 656 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: It's no, like this is the best thing for all 657 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: of us, exactly, handed mongoose, don't listen. Don't be changing 658 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,839 Speaker 1: my mind. Man, it's starting to change my mind. Yeah. 659 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 1: And unlike the mercats, there is no single dominant breeding pair. 660 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 1: Uh so, there is not a tyrannical female in charge. 661 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 1: Multiple females can have their offspring in the group. The 662 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: only option is if the group gets too large to maintain, 663 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: then the older females will force the younger females out. 664 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,399 Speaker 1: But then those younger females will tend to go off 665 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: and start their own their own group. So it's really 666 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: only once there is their resources are running so thin 667 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 1: they really need to That's functional, you know. Yeah, yeah, 668 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: that's a functional, loving answer. It's not that like you 669 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: can't have kids because we're all going to die. It's look, 670 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 1: there's really not enough food around. So hey, man, you 671 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: set up, set out, you are free to go start 672 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: your own plan. I am proud of you. Just remember 673 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 1: all the things we taught you having many kids as 674 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: you want, get out of the termite hill basement, stop 675 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 1: playing call of duty and get out there. Just get 676 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: out there. There's a cutie out there for you. Yeah, 677 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 1: you can procreate. The key to their success in terms 678 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 1: of being a lot more peaceful than the mere cats 679 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: is the fact that the females tend to all give 680 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 1: birth at the same time, even on the same day, 681 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 1: so they are synchronized with their birthing schedules. And by 682 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 1: synchronizing their births, it not only makes community child care 683 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 1: more easy because it's like, all right, you know, all 684 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,879 Speaker 1: the pups are here now they're all the same age. Um, 685 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:18,760 Speaker 1: it's also a way to prevent tyrannical mongoose from taking over. 686 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: So do you want to hear the research study where 687 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:30,840 Speaker 1: researchers gave mongoose is a birth control? Yes, yes I do. 688 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: But when they started giving the older, stronger females birth control, 689 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: the bigger, stronger females started killing the litters of the 690 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 1: other females. So the reasoning is this, So if a 691 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 1: more dominant female, an older, bigger female, doesn't give birth 692 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 1: at the same time as other females, she knows she 693 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 1: can get away with killing the litters without killing any 694 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,720 Speaker 1: of her own young on accident, and so by killing 695 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 1: in this case, it's like, well, you know, she doesn't 696 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,879 Speaker 1: have her own young, they're everyone else has their young, 697 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: So she's making this this decision. I don't know how 698 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 1: much of it is a decision or just instinct, but 699 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 1: it's she she has the instinct of like, well, you know, 700 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: I uh, I need resources, and I'm I didn't give 701 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 1: I don't have any offspring in the game, and it 702 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 1: it's probably some some thing goes with like goes off 703 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: with their hormones, and then they start to become as 704 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: mean as the mere cats. But when the mongoes is 705 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 1: all give birth at the same time, there is no 706 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 1: conflict either if it's through like some kind of hormonal 707 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 1: um just like signaling or something um. They they don't 708 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 1: it would be a disadvantage to them evolutionarily if they 709 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 1: started killing offspring because they might accidentally kill their own, 710 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 1: so they don't do it. So because they have synchronized 711 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 1: their birthing. Uh, it's makes a they're the banded manga 712 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 1: society much more child friendly. It's brilliant. It's absolutely brilliant 713 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 1: because and the calculation of like, well it ain't my 714 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 1: baby in there is like cole hearted because like yeah, 715 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: like goes back today like shared ancestor instinct. But that 716 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 1: but the idea of like, you know, how do you 717 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 1: know how we advanced past the barbarism of our ancestors 718 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 1: is we just all give birth at the same time. Look, 719 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,839 Speaker 1: I'm tired of these arguments. Just do it all at 720 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 1: the same time. Gas you know, yeah, one party, you know, 721 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 1: big old one, big old, gooey birth party. Gooey the 722 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: worst word for this. Yes, So the caring for the 723 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 1: young is a lot cuter and less coercive in the 724 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: banded Monga society. So giving birth is very it takes 725 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 1: a lot of the parents resources. So usually there is 726 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 1: is a younger, non parental babysitter who probably will later 727 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,359 Speaker 1: on have offspring of their own, but for now they're 728 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 1: they're kind of younger, they're less experienced, so they will 729 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:16,280 Speaker 1: babysit uh the young of the mothers who just gave birth. 730 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 1: And so there's usually one babysitter who takes care of 731 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 1: one pups. So each pup will typically get their very 732 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:27,360 Speaker 1: own babysitter. And you know seven attention the parents the 733 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,720 Speaker 1: mothers are usually so tired and wiped out from having 734 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,879 Speaker 1: these litters that they don't do that much in terms 735 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 1: of parental care, whereas the babysitters really take care of 736 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 1: the pups, so they will. The babysitters will escort the 737 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 1: pups out on foraging trips to keep them safe for 738 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,320 Speaker 1: around three months until the pups are old enough to 739 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:51,319 Speaker 1: be out on their own. I'm really starting to feel 740 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 1: a little envy about this mongoose society. This like y'all 741 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 1: gotta figured out, Man, I do, got kids, I do. 742 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 1: How amazing would it be if it was like because 743 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 1: when you have kids, it's like always I call it 744 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 1: tour body because my only comparison was as a professional musician, 745 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 1: like you touring all the time. So when you tour 746 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 1: in ontour, you're you're pretty much at forty to six 747 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 1: energy all day for the whole month. You never really 748 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: get past that. It's just it's for you, just constantly tired. 749 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 1: And so that's like, I mean, that's parenting. Like you're like, 750 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 1: I'm I'm never not exhausted or like feeling like and 751 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,839 Speaker 1: I'm a girl dad, so I'm I mean, it is 752 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:44,279 Speaker 1: is only women in my house, two daughters, you know, 753 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 1: our actual house cat, and then the I'm solely I remember. 754 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 1: So I'm constantly like my head's on a swivel or 755 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:58,280 Speaker 1: I'm constantly have a furled eyebrow because I'm I'm learning 756 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 1: to become um more of a feminist than to understand, 757 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 1: and so I'm seeking and trying to grow in empathy 758 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,319 Speaker 1: all day so something, and sometimes I'm just like, yeah, 759 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 1: I'm tired. I don't I don't understand. I feel like 760 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 1: you all speak Swahili and y'all all understand each other 761 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 1: and I just don't know what you're saying, but I'm translating. 762 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 1: So if you tell me which we kind of have 763 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 1: the house behind us, a couple of neighbors down the street, 764 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 1: like we kind of share the wealth with our kids too, 765 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 1: but like because they got kids, we get anyway. But 766 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,240 Speaker 1: the idea of saying this was built into the fabric 767 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 1: of our I'm like, this would be you wouldn't even 768 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 1: need we wouldn't need parental like paternity leave. Maternity wouldn't 769 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: leave it because it's like kids are fine. Yeah, babysitters 770 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 1: your own personal babysitters. There are theories that like early 771 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 1: on in human society's we had more of a like 772 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:59,919 Speaker 1: cooperative childcare in our in our you know, in our group, 773 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:04,880 Speaker 1: and are like very yeah exactly that that was like 774 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 1: you know, the whole the whole group would take care 775 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,439 Speaker 1: of the children and that would help. But yeah, it's 776 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 1: it's too bad we kind of don't do that anymore. 777 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 1: You know, you kind of pining a memory about about 778 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 1: you know, my anthropology lessons and and it was, I 779 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 1: want to say it was for like the same reasons 780 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 1: of like, well we kind of don't know who's the 781 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,840 Speaker 1: dad or the mom, but we know the mom is, 782 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,319 Speaker 1: but we kind of don't know who the dad is, 783 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 1: So like how about just everybody take care of everybody? Yeah, 784 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 1: and that's there's a theory that that helped reduce our 785 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 1: like aggression towards each other because it's like, well, if 786 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,439 Speaker 1: we're all just like we're not worrying about like whose 787 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,759 Speaker 1: kids who, and like we're not we're not sort of 788 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 1: just trying to have a competition between you know, well, 789 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 1: well is this my kid? Is that my kid? Then 790 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 1: it's just like everyone kind of chills out, and you know, 791 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,919 Speaker 1: we we become more peaceful, we work together better. Yeah, 792 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,799 Speaker 1: So yeah, humans are kind of like the bit of 793 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 1: the banded mongoose of primate. Yeah well wow, um, yeah, man, 794 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:18,280 Speaker 1: I hate that my mind's being changed about your cats 795 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 1: are so cute, though they are very cute. I do actually, 796 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 1: and I do enjoy the drama of them cats because 797 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 1: they're just so messy, right like, yeah, you know, it's 798 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 1: like could be Honestly, I guess like a mere banded 799 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 1: bongoose reality show wouldn't be that interesting because they all 800 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 1: kind of you know, they do have They do have 801 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 1: wars though sometimes so that's the most vicious they get 802 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 1: is in wars with other groups, like rival groups over territories. 803 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 1: So occasionally they do kill each other in these wars, 804 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 1: or depending on their mood, they meet with each other. 805 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 1: So so they could just be like having a big 806 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,800 Speaker 1: war and then a male and a female in opposite 807 00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,600 Speaker 1: sides like make bedroom minds at each other, making like 808 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 1: all of this bloodshed is making me horny. They was 809 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 1: out there to fight and it turns out no kind 810 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 1: of look good over there, like you are good covered 811 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 1: in blood. Anyways, let's take it behind this pile of 812 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 1: dead bodies. Yeah, hey, so what you're doing after this? 813 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 1: What you're doing after the Big war? What you're doing 814 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:24,279 Speaker 1: after this big war? Tell no body Montague, you know, 815 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:29,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying. In fact, there's some observations where they think 816 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:33,040 Speaker 1: that females will instigate wars just so that they can 817 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 1: go off and try to mate with with dudes from 818 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 1: the other side of the war, proving that across all species, 819 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 1: the girls are smarter. Just like this, This is brilliant. 820 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,279 Speaker 1: Just get a bunch of dudes fighting exactly, you just 821 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:57,880 Speaker 1: snag one of them, like, and of course he's gonna stop. Ye, 822 00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:02,799 Speaker 1: I'm saying if you're like, what me me? Yeah, just 823 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,160 Speaker 1: like and I love I love the drama of them, 824 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,759 Speaker 1: like instigating a fight just so they can sneak off, 825 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 1: Like like, hey, did you hear do you hear what 826 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,440 Speaker 1: Timone said about you? Yeah? No, the really handsome the 827 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 1: really handsome mongoose from the other group, Yeah yeah, did 828 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 1: you hear what he said? Yeah, the really hot ones 829 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,759 Speaker 1: that yeah yeah, yeah, he said you're weak, he said 830 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:25,279 Speaker 1: you're the beta. What I mean, I know, like they're 831 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 1: all mere cats. He's like, yeah, I know, yeah, I'm 832 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:29,840 Speaker 1: not what are you talking about? I know it's not 833 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,040 Speaker 1: a diss we all know that. Yeah. Yeah, but no, 834 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 1: but banded mongooses they all they all get. They tend 835 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,800 Speaker 1: to have more chances, so they're much more equitable society. 836 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 1: They're also they're also um. I think if you could 837 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 1: recast the lion king, timone should really be a banded 838 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:50,279 Speaker 1: mongoose and not a meercat because banded mongeese have a 839 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 1: really special relationship with wart hogs, and this is where 840 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,960 Speaker 1: they show a bit of their sweet side. They will 841 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,839 Speaker 1: make friends with wart hogs and remove ticks and other 842 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,440 Speaker 1: parasites from so they can eat the ticks and parasites 843 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,719 Speaker 1: while the wart hog enjoys a spa day with a 844 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:10,600 Speaker 1: bunch of little mongoose massus is so at Disney literally 845 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,919 Speaker 1: deceived us, Yes, because that role. They just said, this 846 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:20,080 Speaker 1: is what mongeese do, but mere cats are cuter. Yeah, 847 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:25,800 Speaker 1: typical Hollywood. Disappointed, typical Hollywood. You know, casting the cutest, 848 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, most socially acceptable person and not not you know, 849 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,160 Speaker 1: the mongoose who would probably reflect that character the best. 850 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god, can you imagine like mongeese sitting in 851 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:41,319 Speaker 1: there termite cave like, are you are you serious? At 852 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 1: a serious? That crazy crazy uncle they got your crazy 853 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:51,320 Speaker 1: uncle playing this okay, yeah, wid yep, yep. It's not fair. 854 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,080 Speaker 1: It's it's not popularity contest. It reminds me, you know, 855 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,759 Speaker 1: in elementary school, you're like running for class president. You 856 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 1: try to get together, big, big speech, but too bad, 857 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,719 Speaker 1: the most popular kid's gonna get it, even though you're 858 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,800 Speaker 1: picking ticks off of ward hogs. Allay, you know what 859 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying, literally picking animals off your body. Yeah, but 860 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm not cute. Okay, cool, but these pictures of the 861 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,439 Speaker 1: mongoose is cleaning off the ward hawks are adorable. It's 862 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:24,359 Speaker 1: you know, it's just there and the ward hog knows 863 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 1: knows what's happening because he just lies down. Let some 864 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 1: go for it, you know. Oh now, like somebody start 865 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,440 Speaker 1: like nibbling on your ear and massage and you use 866 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:36,600 Speaker 1: his eyes roll back like oh hey don't hey, stop 867 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,279 Speaker 1: it some more, you know, stop it, stop it some more. Man. 868 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,120 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, literally going like getting in the ear, 869 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 1: getting the parasites in the ear. It's luxury, it really is. 870 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:54,080 Speaker 1: And the mongooses get a free disgusting meal. That is 871 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 1: another well, that's another downside. They are ticks. Well, but 872 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,759 Speaker 1: you know, a bug a bug, So if you eat bugs, 873 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 1: you know, who are you to turn your nose up 874 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:10,880 Speaker 1: at a parisite, you know, I mean, like, to be honest, 875 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,040 Speaker 1: I feel like the only problem that banded mongooses have 876 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:18,439 Speaker 1: is a branding problem. You know. You gotta you gotta 877 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:24,399 Speaker 1: get a brand expert. Uh, maybe get some eyeshadow, hold 878 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:28,839 Speaker 1: your hold your paws up, you know, act a little cuter. Yeah, 879 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 1: work on your posture, right right, get one of those 880 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 1: posture corrective harnesses, right uh yeah, and just like and 881 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 1: then pose, you know, like, look, I'm massaging this, this 882 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,479 Speaker 1: word hog see this just yeah, just a whole bunch 883 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,880 Speaker 1: of photos with them standing next to Ward Hobbs and 884 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:52,879 Speaker 1: just like, judge for yourself, guys, yeah yeah, see see 885 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,920 Speaker 1: how it really look? Just for yourself. See any mere cats? 886 00:54:55,960 --> 00:55:01,479 Speaker 1: I'll see no mere cats? Yeah yeah, mirrorcats. So next 887 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 1: time you look at a little cute, little mer cat face, 888 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:08,160 Speaker 1: know that you're possibly staring into the eyes of an 889 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:13,640 Speaker 1: unrepentant killer, stone cold killer. Ye ye, little criminal. Yeah, 890 00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,799 Speaker 1: you tricked us with that. Actually, you know, it's kind 891 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,120 Speaker 1: of crazy because it's like they little eyeshadow was like, oh, 892 00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,120 Speaker 1: we weren't hiding it. Yeah, I don't know why, y'all 893 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 1: thought this about us. Yeah, we dark that's why we 894 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,640 Speaker 1: did this. This metal were death metal? Bro, like, it's metal, 895 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,400 Speaker 1: that's this death metal makeup? What did you think? What 896 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,200 Speaker 1: did you think? I don't know why y'all kept calling 897 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,400 Speaker 1: it qute. We couldn't figure it out. I was asking, 898 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,120 Speaker 1: why do I keep thinking this is death metal? Yeah? 899 00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 1: Imagine you imagine mirrorcats are just confused as to why 900 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:48,799 Speaker 1: everybody thinks they cuddly like what they think? Yeah? No, yeah, no, 901 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,080 Speaker 1: we're we're literally Satanists. What are you talking about? Yeah? 902 00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,759 Speaker 1: They're like what how I mean, how much worse do 903 00:55:55,800 --> 00:56:00,920 Speaker 1: we need to be? Like? Hail Satan? Dude, Satan? We 904 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:04,440 Speaker 1: killed children. I don't understand. You should have had a 905 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,080 Speaker 1: clue when we literally ripped a butt off a scorpion. 906 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,759 Speaker 1: Did you see me not flinched after ripping the butt 907 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:14,320 Speaker 1: off a scorpion's scorpion fangs coming out my mouth? I 908 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:21,839 Speaker 1: don't understand what you don't understand. I love it. I'm 909 00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:26,280 Speaker 1: sorry to uh to you know, uh kind of unveil 910 00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,560 Speaker 1: the truth behind your But I hope you still love 911 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 1: them because I do. You know, they remind me of 912 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,280 Speaker 1: like like Orca whales, to where You're like, these fools 913 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 1: hunt for fun, like these are these are Earth's apex predators? 914 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,560 Speaker 1: Like you can't have somebody as hungry and vicious as 915 00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:49,560 Speaker 1: a lion that's the size of a bus. Yeah, you 916 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,520 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I'm like, but I look 917 00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,960 Speaker 1: at him, and I'm like, you guys are beautiful and majestic. Yeah, 918 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 1: this is a majestic animal that murders. Yeah, they're they're huge, 919 00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,960 Speaker 1: they have a huge brain, they have big teeth. Did 920 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,959 Speaker 1: we not think they would murder? I mean, like what else? 921 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,000 Speaker 1: You know? Yeah, I mean look at what humans have done. 922 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,279 Speaker 1: We're like, oh, no, dolphins, but they're so smart, why 923 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,839 Speaker 1: would they like torture seals? It's like, uh, I mean, 924 00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:21,080 Speaker 1: have you just looked around, gestures wildly, Yeah, yeah, shines 925 00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:25,520 Speaker 1: a mirror in front of your camera and go, yeah, yeah, 926 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,919 Speaker 1: what do you think? Yeah, I mean it's I guess 927 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,840 Speaker 1: it's true that we don't eat our own offspring or 928 00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:35,720 Speaker 1: other people's offspring, generally speaking, but look cast the stone 929 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,040 Speaker 1: from our eyes before you judge a mer cat. You know, 930 00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:44,080 Speaker 1: you go, because we we we we eat our share 931 00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:55,680 Speaker 1: of babies. Yeah, but thank you that note. Yeah, species 932 00:57:55,800 --> 00:58:03,600 Speaker 1: babies inter species babies. Clarification, we eat we feel not human. Yes, 933 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:11,280 Speaker 1: we eat other people's babies and yeah yeah other people's 934 00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:16,200 Speaker 1: rewinded back we eat other species babies. I'm saving. I'm 935 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,520 Speaker 1: isolating that clip and putting it online. There it is, 936 00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:24,360 Speaker 1: we eat babies. Yeah, yeah, where can Where can people 937 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,920 Speaker 1: find you so they can write angry letters to you 938 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:30,920 Speaker 1: about how you are advocating for eat. You can find 939 00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:37,720 Speaker 1: me at Katie Golden No prop hip Hop is my 940 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,080 Speaker 1: website and all my and all my social handles. There's 941 00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:47,240 Speaker 1: a bunch of homes and coffee photos and and I 942 00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,400 Speaker 1: got a book coming out, and the Hood Politics Pod 943 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,840 Speaker 1: is on Network with this fine pod called Hood Politics 944 00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,600 Speaker 1: Pod for the socials and yeah, you just starch up 945 00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:02,320 Speaker 1: politics and and yeah, I'll have an episode about the 946 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,440 Speaker 1: Armenian genocide on this week. Yeah, and kind of like 947 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,240 Speaker 1: just getting your head in your head around it. You 948 00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:12,680 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's very important, very very important. Yeah, Yeah, 949 00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:14,840 Speaker 1: it's a it's a I try to just take these 950 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:20,240 Speaker 1: like super serious, very complicated things that are happening in 951 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:25,040 Speaker 1: geopolitics and just kind of going, well, you know what 952 00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,360 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, No, I mean I think people are 953 00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 1: intimidated sometimes by by politics, especially global politics, and thinking, well, 954 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,840 Speaker 1: I'm I'm just not I'm not an expert, so how 955 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,360 Speaker 1: could I know? But that's not true. Yeah, you actually 956 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,160 Speaker 1: you're more of an expert than you think. Hey, did 957 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,840 Speaker 1: you survive eighth grade? Did you figure out which lunch 958 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,560 Speaker 1: table to sit at when you on the first day 959 00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,720 Speaker 1: of school and you had to make the calculations as 960 00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:51,560 Speaker 1: to which Yeah, you understand you. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, no, 961 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 1: definitely check that out. I think that's super important. And 962 00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:58,280 Speaker 1: you can find the podcast on the internet at Creature 963 00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,280 Speaker 1: Feature Pod on Instagram, at your feet pot on Twitter. 964 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:05,920 Speaker 1: That's Effie Hot Efie Eating had something very different um, 965 01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,560 Speaker 1: and you can find uh. If you want to email 966 01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:14,040 Speaker 1: me your questions, your concerns about mer cats, your petitions 967 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,240 Speaker 1: to get banded mongoose is the attention they deserve, you 968 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:21,800 Speaker 1: can email me at Creature Feature Pod at gmail dot com. 969 01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,480 Speaker 1: And thank you so much for listening. If you're enjoying 970 01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,880 Speaker 1: the show and you leave our rating and review, I 971 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,480 Speaker 1: read all of them and they make me so happy. 972 01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:33,400 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. And thank you to the Space 973 01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:37,400 Speaker 1: Classics for their super awesome song ex Alumina creature features 974 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,240 Speaker 1: the production of I heart Radio. 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