WEBVTT - Conversations About Fixing The Records (Vol. 3) 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.400 What's up? And welcome back to another episode of No 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:07.520 Sealer's podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:20.400 loaw glasses Malone. 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:18.600 That due all of us, probably the most influential producer 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:19.880 in Detroit right now with. 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:21.759 The boone boom boom, them thick. 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:24.200 Base lines that he you know, he came with them 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:26.880 base lines, you know, with the bone bone and you 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:28.040 hear it an every damn song. 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:30.360 Damn there Now, I don't know what. 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:36.320 The fuck you're talking about you from. 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:38.440 Let's make sure we don't talk over each other because 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:42.880 they get real digitized and all like that again Part 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:46.640 three of this three part podcast. We started off having 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:52.400 a conversation. The first podcast rooted in just culture in general, 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:55.720 like what hip hop was street urban culture, right, and 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:58.560 we started to break it down, dissected and loosely. We 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:02.720 cover brand, We talk about marketing, We talked about you know, 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:04.679 the culture itself. 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:04.960 Right. 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:07.800 And then the second one, the last time we talked 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:12.360 about this, right, we talked about what were we talking about? 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:15.360 We were talking about what was wrong with the content 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:18.800 creating space and hip hop? Right, we were talking about 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:21.839 everything wrong with the content creating space and hip hop. 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:25.520 Hip hop is just kind of following, like they don't 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:28.080 have a real angle. They're just doing shit. They're just 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:33.120 trying to be popular. Everybody's trying to win the popularity lottery, 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:35.840 so they get so popular, you know what I mean, 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:42.640 that they records start to matter. Also, we chopped it 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:48.160 up because about so not only trying to win the 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:54.280 popularity lottery, but not really having a true direct line 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:57.480 of business. 0:01:57.120 --> 0:02:02.440 It's interesting bid obviously over the weekend, which you guys 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:07.840 have heard about, how the dollar and pussy left the 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:11.880 gold standard and hip hop, the culture at the street 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:16.480 level is the gold standard. They've decoupled. It's now floating 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:21.240 currencies of just random popularities tied to other random popularities 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:26.160 of performers. There's no gold standard anymore. What was happening 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:30.040 is we're experiencing the hypertrophy and the inflation of hip 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:34.360 hop because there's no gold standard anymore, and therefore the 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:36.440 value is on borrowed time. 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:41.480 Totally fucking agree. 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:43.840 The value. 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:49.480 Is the gold standard that gave hip hop its true value. 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:56.360 M Oh my god, I never thought about it like that. 0:02:56.480 --> 0:03:00.040 It just came to me. Everything is about currency. I 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:05.360 think it's about stability of currency. So now we're up 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:08.080 to this third part. And again I call this my 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:11.480 hip hop stimulus package. It's for the West, but anybody 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:13.400 can adopt this and I'm glad you had it that 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:17.640 that's brilliant to the music. You know, we we haven't 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:21.560 talked about the music. We've talked about marketing and branding 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:24.519 to me, and that's important because visually, you know what 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:26.840 I mean. That's we see music before we hear it 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:30.320 today because everything we discover is based off looking down 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:32.520 at our phones, right, you know what I mean. 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:34.920 It's not like when Still was young or when I 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:36.800 was younger, you heard it on the radio, you heard 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:39.600 it just at a party. Now we see it on 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:43.160 our phone. Being back, so I understand why we took 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:47.160 a really deep dive into content and and and and 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:50.000 even the brand of what is hip hop? Right, But 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:53.080 back to the music, because that's the finishing point. Like 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:55.560 we was talking about Sexy read to me, who has 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:58.800 a fantastic job of brand Her brand is a one 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:01.880 any of us, all four of us, could see Sexy 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:04.400 Red on the street and we know her right too. 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:09.040 We know everything internally she represents, like if I ask 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:12.800 y'all different things, expressions and where she's from We know 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:16.320 her marketing, we know her outfit, we know her morals. 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:19.720 But I think her true problem lies in the music. 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:26.640 Like her music is really great ideas, but they're not finished. 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:29.880 The ideas are not produced and finished. And that's why 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:32.880 if you look at her on the chart, her chart 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:36.360 performance is never great even with all that attention, Like 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:39.359 it's great for any hip hop artist, right, because that's dope, 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:42.720 Like she's getting close to the top forty, right, she's 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:46.400 forty six or fifty seven or sixty something, right, which 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:51.200 is incredible for urban acts. But hip hop has already 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:55.360 paved a way to the top ten on the Billboard 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:59.400 Hot one hundred charts. So there's no excuse any longer 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.840 to only be you know, outside of it. Now you 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:07.080 have a trail blaze for thirty years since Doctor dreading them. 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:10.960 They have trail blaze the path directly to consistent hit 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:14.880 records for hip hop. And I think musically, what's wrong 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:20.159 we've talked about this is when I study all the 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:23.839 time before me, even the generation that still is right 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:29.680 before me. Remember, like you had to pretty much know 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:33.280 something about music to make it. Still generation is kind 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:35.320 of the first generation that didn't know shit about music 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:39.279 to start making music, making records, but they still was 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:42.880 connected closer to musicians. And the ones who went and 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:46.200 embodied and found musicians did well, right, the Doctor Dre's, 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:50.200 the DJ Quicks, the guys who went and found musicians. 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:51.360 Right. 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:55.640 But now we're in a crazier situation because when Stell 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.279 was growing up, they had the drum machine. The drum 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:00.960 machine was new right when still was a little kid, right, 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:04.520 craft Works and then introduced it, fucking you know to 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:08.039 the hip hop and then you know Planet A, you 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:10.960 know Planet Rock, you know, bamming them got it and 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:13.440 start making records, and the hip hop started using the 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:16.839 drum machine, cutting down the time to get to finish records. 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:19.960 Well, if I can get real quick, gee, sure, I'm 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:22.800 gonna tell you what had a profound impact on today 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:25.800 versus you know when I was coming up, is it 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:27.560 was mandatory music. 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:30.160 Before we get there, before we get there, before we. 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:32.880 Hear me all real quick, because this goes right into 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:33.960 what you're saying right now. 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:38.880 We had to take music and as a class. 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:40.440 Right, it wasn't a choice. 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:43.520 I believe when you when they cut those programs off, bro, 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:45.640 I think you saw the decline and then I think 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:46.400 that's what happened. 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:48.920 Well, I don't think it, And that's the point. I 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:52.120 don't think it's just the decline of the music classes. 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:54.080 I do agree with you in a sense because that 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:59.240 affected my generation, me and p generation right whise we 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:03.800 got down there. Now we didn't know, but remember the 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:08.760 drum machine helped your generation get from not being able 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:11.640 to play the drums to having drums to sample over 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:14.480 right outside of the sampler. They was able to use 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:17.960 a drum machine in their fingers and make a rhythm. Yeah, 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:23.320 now it's even worse because technology has came full circle 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:28.600 and there's much they're like, they're way less barriers of entry, 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:32.800 Like now with a laptop, anybody could get in. 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.960 Did you ever see the movie Multiplicity from like the 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:38.360 nineties with Michael Keaton. 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:40.960 No, I remember hearing about it. 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:44.600 It's a stupid goofball comedy movie or whatever. But he's 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:46.760 a guy. He's just like a dad in the suburbs 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:49.520 or whatever the hell, and somehow he clones himself and 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:53.320 makes a guy. He had his clones number, his number two, 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:55.880 and he calls him two so he could split up 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:59.360 the work of being like working being a good dad 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:03.320 all this other shit, and then two clones himself to three, 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:06.560 and now he's three times, but three isn't quite what 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:08.720 one is. And then three closes them off the four 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:12.440 and fourst borderline retarded. So the more you clone away 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:15.200 from the original, the further the generations, the way you 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:20.880 get the worst and worst kind of the quality becomes. 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:23.679 As you're taking a sample of a sample, a sample 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:24.960 of a sample. 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:28.600 You keep copying something in black ink. If you copy copy, 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:30.880 eventually the paper becomes. 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:33.160 You take a picture of a picture, and then a 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:34.560 picture of a picture of a picture, and then you 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:35.719 take a picture of a picture of a picture of 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:39.160 pictures a little foggy. 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:43.400 So I think now that even drum machines, right, because 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:46.080 drum machines, in stealing them time was really more expensive. 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:49.320 When I talked to warring a different people, drum machines 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:53.720 were really expensive, So there was still they wasn't quite 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:58.160 as expensive as drums themselves where you needed talent. But 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:00.319 you know, I mean, because you do need some for 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:02.640 drum machines. It's not completely void, but it's less than 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:05.600 you need for drums to make it up and recorded. Right, 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:06.760 But the drummer sheet. 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:10.160 What's considered expensive then for a drum machine. 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:13.160 How much wisdom NPCs when you were younger still that 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:14.120 you remember. 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.880 Shoot man thirty five hundred three thousand. 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:19.040 Dollars that got damn car. 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:23.040 Yeah, yeah, it was like a fantasy. It was like, Man, 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:25.240 I've never be auld have had one of those. I remember, 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:25.920 I remember. 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:28.440 Yeah, even in the growing up in the nineties, it 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:30.199 was still like they cost that much. 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:35.079 So yeah, so no sailings gl. 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:36.480 In. 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:39.080 This s motherfucker. This is the third part to my 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:45.240 three part series. Hopefully caught the first two. This is 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:47.959 the third version. But this is like my personal hip 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:53.079 hop stimulus kind of summarizing about three and a half 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:58.680 four hours to help really truly clear out a lot 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.480 of the congestion, like Pete saying, which is dope? How 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:03.560 you comparing it to the gold standards? So Pete is 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:07.320 obviously here. My man Joey west Side, he was a 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:09.640 part of the first two conversations, so we got him back. 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:12.360 Joey west Side, one half of the La Giants rap 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:16.119 group by the Los Angeles My Big Brother Manager podcast 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:22.040 or Extraordinaire Steele who they just did a million downloads 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:26.800 on Gangster Chronicles last year for the six seasons, so 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:28.520 we won in the seven season. 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:32.560 So congract one seven and be more precise. 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:38.040 Okay, on the way to seven one point because it's 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:43.760 not two. Yeah, it should be more round down. Uh So, 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:46.480 long story short, like still saying right, So it's thirty 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:49.240 five hundred dollars to get SP or MPC. 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:49.720 Right. 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:53.360 Guess what that eliminated a lot of people that was playing. 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:56.480 You couldn't just wake up one day and play with it, right, 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:59.880 It wasn't no joke. Fast forward to twenty twenty four. 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:03.000 You can get a laptop for one hundred dollars, or 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:06.120 you can get your phone on a payment and download 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:11.240 fucking fruity loops and at that point people can buy 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:15.920 your music. So we're so far away from people having 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:21.240 to really be serious about it. Yet it's enough people 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:23.960 that's taking a chance to try to program. So what 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:28.359 you have is a lot more program ideas than produced ideas. 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:31.640 It's like how we would you know, witnessing the rids 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:34.680 of toob movies where you have now the equipment is 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:38.640 much less, so now you have less barriers of entry 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:40.040 for creators. 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:48.000 It's fascinating that the expansion of participation has resulted in 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:53.440 the homogenization of the result. That is fucking bizarre. 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:54.600 That is bizarre. 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:56.400 Say that when we're time for joe because Joey's staring 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:57.480 at your motherfucking man. 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:02.760 Yeah, the expansion participation so twenty five years ago because 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:06.400 you weeded out only the super super motivated who really 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:11.319 wanted to invest themselves. Twenty people right, made all the beats. 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:14.840 Whatever the number was. Now it's twenty thousand because any 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:18.160 idiot can do it. So you have way more ideas, 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:22.840 way more mind power, way more creative contribution on moss. 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:30.000 Yet thirty years ago versus today, it's way more homogenized. 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:30.400 Sound. 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:33.960 Everything sounds everybody's shit sounds the same. Yet there's way 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:37.120 more creative effort being put in on a broad scale 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:40.920 than there used to be. If they got a out 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:42.880 of twenty thousand, now it sounds the same. 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:47.440 Man, we was able to tell producers apart, like we 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:50.040 knew who did well when you heard it, to the 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:52.840 point where if they said this person produced it, you 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:54.719 was excited to hear like, oh he did. 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:56.160 Let me see what this sound like? 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:59.520 You Timbolins sound like tim Cat, sound like cat, Quick, 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:01.199 sound like Quick like Dre. 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:06.679 You know what I mean neptunes. 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:10.120 And now, man, it's just a you man, you're right, 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:17.000 it's just like awesome. Everybody got the same program. 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:21.720 But what's funny is, to Peat's point, I think there's 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:27.680 less creativity. I think there's more just programming. It's more 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:35.360 calculator work, more follow instructions, listen to this uh artist 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:40.440 type beats. So there's less creative. There's less creativity. I 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:42.680 mean that's probably not true. Probably on the scale, there's 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:46.760 gonna be more. But because there's so much fucking fizz 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:49.079 at the top of the fucking beer, you know what 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:52.000 I mean, you could never even take advantage of how 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:53.920 much beer is in the glass versus how much beer 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:55.400 used to be in the glass, because now at this 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:58.000 point it's just the top of the motherfucker got all 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.400 the fucking fizz and what you call that shit, the 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:03.440 SuDS or the beer, and that motherfucker take up have 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:09.680 to cut. But the point I was saying is you're 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:12.920 gonna still have to invest and take some of these 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:22.040 programmed ideas and have them produced. Still, you have to 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:26.040 take a lot of these programmed ideas, and once you 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:29.480 finish the idea yourself, you put your lyrics on you 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:33.280 have them produced by somebody that's still at the next level. 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:38.760 And I think that's where the creativity truly lies. Like, 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.400 that's the one thing that nobody can argue about with 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.720 cancel these nuts, trust me, people if they can slander me, 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:47.400 because every it's so many people that don't agree with 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.200 my opinion right now. But the one thing they gonna 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:52.920 do when they press play is gonna be like they 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:54.920 can say, oh man, it's west. They gonna know that 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:58.560 shit is tough. And that's because. 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:00.080 All the the. 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:03.360 Ideas are produced. So they could have started off program 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:06.640 but they gonna end up produced. It's like, but nigga 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:08.720 that was making a two B movie took it to 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:12.560 a bomb ass editor and a bomb ass colorist, you 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:15.400 feel me. Even though when he recorded it he may 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:17.800 didn't have the best sound. He might didn't have the 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:22.960 best camera. Man, he might didn't have the best, you know, equipment. 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:26.160 But if you take it to a true pro editor, 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:31.840 you still will end up with some fucking quality crazy shit. 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:34.760 It may not be the top level shit like, cause 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:37.520 you do start. Like one thing I realized when I 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:41.240 was working on Glasshouse two. We was chasing Dre's mixing right. 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:44.360 We was chasing two thousand and one, and I remember 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:49.160 spending over twenty thousand dollars chasing the sound that was 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:52.600 two thousand and one and not even being close. But 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:56.960 what I realized before anybody told me his shit started 0:15:57.040 --> 0:16:01.240 dre mixing starts at the production. He's gonna have a 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:04.400 specific style of kick that that kick started with. It's 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:06.840 not gonna probably be that kick, or he gonna take 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:10.680 fucking days and days of mixing that fucking kick or clap. 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:14.479 Most times, he starts with a certain level of quality 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:19.160 sound to make it work. So even his finishing in 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:21.440 the mix, the final mix of the song where you 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:25.000 balance the sound, is gonna be better because they started 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:27.760 to work early. So I'm not saying somebody that's making 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:31.640 a two B movie, you're gonna make Friday, you know 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:33.840 what I mean? Most likely you're not gonna get a 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:36.280 two B movie that's gonna be as quality or as 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:39.800 great as Friday, because they started with quality things to 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:43.720 start with, right, But you can end up with a 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:49.680 much better product and a much more respectable piece if 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:52.200 you actually let somebody produce and finish. 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:54.520 It, like mixing a two track or something. 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:58.480 It's like still like like like like excuse me, Like 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:01.320 Pete said the gold standard, if you take today's money 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:04.440 and buy gold, gold is still gonna be gold. Even 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:06.720 if it ain't as much gold as it once was yesterday. 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:11.520 Gold still gold, right, you know what I mean? Like, 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:14.520 like you know, gold is what perhaps right now, Pete 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:18.480 was two thousand rod about eighteen nineteen. So if you 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:21.200 spend two thousand of today's money on gold, on the 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:24.320 ounce of gold, still gold, So you can have that gold. 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:26.680 That gold is gonna move with the currency, no matter what. 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:29.600 If currency gets too inflated, that god gonna be worth 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:32.080 thirty two hundred. Now you didn't get it when it 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:33.800 was four hundred. You just started early. 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:36.679 Enough in the production of it. But you could fix it. 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:39.520 And I think that's what needs to happen. But that 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:43.840 also requires us to repair the relationship we have with 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:49.639 hip hop fathers and music fathers. I'm thinking about. We 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:52.240 always talk about how great the Chronic is. We always 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:55.080 talk about how great Doggy Style is. People don't know 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:59.240 how many people contributed to those records that were real 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:01.679 people from a different era of great music. 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:02.639 Right. 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:07.360 Maybe don't realize the Chronic was recorded right at Solar 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:12.840 where they had access to musicians, quality equipment, really talented ears. 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:15.560 You know, fucking Dick Griffy, Rest in peace from Solar. 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:18.880 Solar is Responsible. That's a record label, Sounds of Los 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:23.160 Angeles Recording. It's a record label that gave us the Whispers, right, 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:26.240 that gave us the deal. That's where baby Face and 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:29.680 La Reid came from. They gave us the Mi Max. 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:34.640 They gave us a a lot of dope shit. Yeah 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:37.880 you know what I'm saying. So they recorded the Chronic 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:41.920 at that studio with access to musicians and the ear 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:45.439 as great as Dick Griffy. So even if dre you know, 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:48.159 who was already ten years in at this point, roughly 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:50.560 he can have It's like when I would go to Skip, 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:53.080 say they have Skip come in the room. It's just 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:56.840 gonna be certain things he gonna know better. So I 0:18:56.880 --> 0:18:59.800 think where hip hop needs to really, what they need 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:06.919 to truly, what hip hop truly needs to fix itself musically, 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:12.320 is they have to start connecting with music. You know, 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:14.760 I mean they have to connect with music. They gotta 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:18.479 get back connected with music. You can't just say I 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:21.960 can do this myself. James Brown couldn't say I could 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:22.720 do this. Myself. 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:23.199 I get it. 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:25.840 Prince MIGHTA Prince is probably that one dude that that 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:30.240 I do this myself. You niggas ain't Prince, ain't. 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:33.560 Prince man, they say they're self talk over now, how 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:35.040 many instruments? 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:39.800 Who the fuck? I would not be trying to take 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:40.680 that fucking road. 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:42.760 Yeah that's different man. 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:47.680 He was a different dude, And I don't give a fuck. 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:52.480 And honestly, let's be honest, some people care about that. Listen, man, 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:56.760 The final product is the only thing that mattered. The 0:19:56.840 --> 0:19:59.120 final product is the only thing that matter. 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:01.680 Because you got people that I can play but can't produce. 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:06.480 Hands down, because they're two different journeys, right, They're two 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:12.760 different journeys. They're two different journeys. It's just because the 0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:19.080 equipment is like much more affordable, like because there's less 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:23.760 barriers of entry. That don't mean you shouldn't respect the craft. 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:27.760 So you always should be trying to connect yourself to 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:30.399 the legacy and the rich history of what it is 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:30.760 you do. 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:33.200 If if you. 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:35.320 Are in music, you should be trying to connect. If 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:37.560 you're from LA and you make any level of G 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:41.000 funk like Adjasent cash right or shout out to Jay 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:43.760 shout out to Perico, shout out to certain homies, and 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:46.720 they make any level of connection of funk. There's no 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:49.640 way battle Casts should not be in your mix eventually. Now, 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:52.399 maybe you can't afford battle Cat to do a whole album. 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:55.600 Maybe if you're in Atlanta, you can't afford to do 0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:58.080 Toop a whole album. Maybe if you and you in 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:01.080 New York, you can't afford Swiss to do a whole album. 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:03.760 Maybe if you're in the Midwest, you can't afford Trackster 0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:06.240 to do a whole album. But that don't mean you 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:09.800 shouldn't be using their contributions to your production. Maybe you 0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:11.159 can go to them and say, hey, man, I just 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:13.160 need a baseline. Hey, I just need you to figure 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:16.360 out what's wrong with this. I got this. Their knowledge 0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:19.359 is worth it. Now again, we could all be arrogant 0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:21.520 and talk about where we at in time, and oh, 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:25.040 I could be anybody somewhere along the line. Somebody lied 0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:26.960 to rappers and told them that they need to be 0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:28.200 the most confident. 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:28.240 In the move. 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:31.360 I'm tired of hearing rad niggas talking about I supposed 0:21:31.359 --> 0:21:35.520 to feel like I'm the best. No, you fucking not, No, 0:21:35.600 --> 0:21:38.840 you are fucking not because you are fucking not the best. 0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:42.119 I heard a motherfucker, oh Domi Simba said he was 0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:46.320 better than fucking Eminem and I got mad as a motherfucker. 0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:49.280 I caught his manager. I said, Cuz, this nigga is tripping. Well, 0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:56.439 hold on, no, he is not supposed to feel like 0:21:56.480 --> 0:21:59.000 he's fucking better than Eminem. And I'm tired of niggas 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:01.159 feeling like they need to feel like some way that 0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:05.280 they didn't fucking earn. How the fuck are you better 0:22:05.320 --> 0:22:07.439 than somebody? But doing something thirty fucking years and now 0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:11.359 inside and out, you're not ridiculously ignorant and arrogant. You 0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:14.160 gotta think so all you motherfuckers that think you better 0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:15.919 than some of these motherfuckers, that's your. 0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:20.240 Problem professionally doing it that long, professionally. 0:22:19.880 --> 0:22:21.119 At the highest level. 0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:25.920 Man, So you don't think at some point the MC 0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:27.600 should feel like they're the greatest. 0:22:28.240 --> 0:22:31.960 No, why the fuck would you think you're the fucking greatest? 0:22:32.560 --> 0:22:37.000