1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: From the Bloomberg Interactive Burger's Studios. This is Bloomberg day 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: Break for Friday, June twenty third. Coming up today, the. 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 2: Search for the missing Titanic sub comes to a tragic end. 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: Global stocks are on track for their biggest weekly decline 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: in three months. 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 2: Janet Yellen says the risk of a US recession is receding. 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: And City Group has a warning for employees on office attendance. 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 3: A section of I ninety five that collapsed in Philadelphia 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 3: reopens today. Plus Congress mon Santos slams a judge for 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 3: revealing the names behind posting his bond. I'm Michael Barr. 11 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 3: More ahead. 12 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 4: John stas Shower sports a lopsided loss to the Yankees. 13 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 4: The Mets to night visit Philadelphia. They held the NBA 14 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 4: Draft in Brooklyn. 15 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 5: That's all straight ahead on Bloomberg day Break, The Business 16 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 5: news you need to starn your day in just one 17 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 5: fifteen minute podcast each morning on Apples, Spotify, the Bloomberg 18 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 5: Business app, and everywhere you get your podcasts. 19 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan. 20 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the stories we're 21 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: following today. 22 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: First, we begin with a tragic end to the search 23 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: for that submersible it was exploring the Titanic. Rescuers have 24 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: found the nose cone and other debris from the vessel, 25 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: known as the Titan. Coastguard Rear Admiral John Monger says 26 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 2: the five people on board are dead. 27 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 6: In consultation with experts from within the Unified Command, the 28 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 6: debris is consistent with the catastrophic loss of the pressure chamber. 29 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: We're Admiral John Mager says, they're going to keep collecting 30 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 2: information to determine the cause of that implosion. Bloomberg News 31 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: has learned the US Navy detected the implosion on Sunday 32 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: at the site where the Titan loss communications. A senior 33 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: Navy official says a decision was made to continue the 34 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: search and rescue to make every effort to save lives. 35 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: Well, Nathan, we turn now to the nation's capital, where 36 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: geopolitics and foreign relations are in focus. It was a 37 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: red carpet welcome for India's Prime Minister as Narndra of 38 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: Mody met with President Biden at the White House yesterday. 39 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: I joined press conference was followed by Modi addressing Congress. 40 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: Amy Morris has Moore from our Bloomberg ninety nine one 41 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: newsroom in Washington. 42 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 7: President Biden in Prime Minister Mody announced a series of 43 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 7: defense and commercial deals designed to improve military and economic 44 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 7: ties between the two nations during yesterday's state visit at 45 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 7: the White House. Later, Mody made a rare address to 46 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 7: a joint meeting of Congress, where he stressed the importance 47 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 7: of democracy. 48 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 5: The beauty of democracy in the constant connect with the people, 49 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 5: to listen to them. 50 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 7: At least seventy lawmakers called on President Biden to address 51 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 7: human rights violations in India. Still, Mody was met with 52 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 7: applause on Capitol Hill. The evening ended with a state 53 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 7: dinner at the White House in Washington. I'm Amy Morris 54 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 7: Bloomberg Daybreak. 55 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 8: Thank you Amy. 56 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: At that joint news conference with Prime Minister Modi, President 57 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: Biden also addressed relations with answering questions about this week's 58 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: comment where he referred to Chinese President Shi Jinping as 59 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: a dictator. 60 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 9: We had an incident that caused some confusion, you might say, 61 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 9: but President, but the Secretary of b Lincoln had a 62 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 9: great trip to China. I expect to be meeting with 63 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 9: President she sometime in the future, in the near term, 64 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 9: and I don't think it's had any real consequence. 65 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: All those sentiments from President Biden do not appear to 66 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: be shared by China. A spokesman for the Chinese embassy 67 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: says the president's remarks were quote erroneous, absurd, and irresponsible. 68 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: Well, we turned to the markets now, Nathan, and are 69 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: seeing global stocks had for their biggest weekly decline in 70 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: more than three months. Concerns of our higher interest rates 71 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: appear to be the catalyst. At the same time, we're 72 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: getting a positive outlook from the Treasury Secretary Jennet Yellen 73 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: says the risk of a US recession is declining. We 74 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: get more from Bloomberg's dun Krisner. 75 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 10: In an interview with Bloomberg News, Yellen said the odds 76 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 10: of recession, if anything, have gone down. That's because of 77 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 10: a tight labor market and inflation coming down. When it 78 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 10: comes to consumption, Yellen said we probably need to see 79 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 10: some slow down in spending in order to get inflation 80 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 10: under control. She said the core measure of price increases 81 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 10: is quite high. Yellen also said we could have a 82 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 10: lovely debate about what the inflation target would be, but 83 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 10: this is not the time for that debate. Fedhair J. 84 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 10: Powell has rejected the idea of entertaining a change in 85 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 10: the two percent target sentiment. He reiterated before Congress this 86 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 10: week in New York. I'm Doug Krisner Bloomberg Daybreak. 87 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 2: Thank you, Doug. Speaking of Jay Powell. The Fed chairs 88 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 2: wrapped up his semi annual testimony to Congress, and yesterday 89 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 2: saw Powell weighing in on the banking crisis. He says 90 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: Wall Street's biggest lenders may have to increase capital requirements 91 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 2: by twenty percent. 92 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 11: The capital requirements will be very, very skewed to the 93 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 11: eight largest banks. The jesips there may be some capital 94 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 11: increases for the other banks, and they won't. I'm not 95 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 11: I think none of this should affect banks under a 96 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 11: hundred billion. 97 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 2: Pal made those comments before the Senate Banking Committee as 98 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 2: he wrapped up two days of Congressional testimony. 99 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: Sticking with the banking sector, plenty of other news to 100 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: catch you up on this morning. Nathan Blackrock says it's 101 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: cutting staff. The firm says it's shifting its budget to 102 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: support critical priorities. Blackrock says the move will affect less 103 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: than one percent of employees. 104 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 2: And City Group's ramping up it's pushed to get its 105 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: workers back. 106 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 12: In the office. 107 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 5: Karen. 108 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 2: The firm's telling managers to let staff know they will 109 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 2: face consequences if they don't comply with office attendance policies. 110 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 2: We get the details from Bloomberg's Charlie Pellett. 111 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 12: Sources tell Bloomberg. While the vast majority of staffers are 112 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 12: following the firm's rules for hybrid work, the moves are 113 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 12: focused on those employees with persistent, unexplained absences, the sources, 114 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 12: managers will consider compliance with the rules when rating performance 115 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 12: and crafting pay packages. Citygroup is widely seen as to 116 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 12: be among the most amenable financial firms when it comes 117 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 12: to flexible work arrangements. Following the COVID nineteen pandemic in 118 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 12: New York, Charlie Pellett Bloomberg Daybreak. 119 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: All right, Charlie, thanks well. Another big bank has made 120 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: a settlement involving litigation over Jeffrey Epstein. JP Morgan has 121 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: agreed to pay two hundred ninety million dollars to settle 122 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: a lawsuit alleging it knowingly benefited from Epstein's sex trafficking. 123 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: The deal has been okayed by the lead plaintiff, but 124 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: must still be approved by a judge. Last month, Deutsche 125 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: Bank agreed to pay seventy five million dollars to settle 126 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: it's Epstein related lawsuit. 127 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 2: And a settlement's been reached in the first US Zantac 128 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: cancer lawsuit. British drugmaker GSK has reached a deal with 129 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: a man who claimed the drug maker's heartburn medication caused 130 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: his cancer. This is Bloomberg, and now it's time to 131 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 2: take a look at some of the other stories making 132 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 2: news in New York and around the world. 133 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 12: Good morning, Michael barn Good morning. 134 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 3: Nathan ben Dott says the temporary lanes of I ninety 135 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 3: five will reopen today in Philadelphia. Cruz have been working 136 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 3: twenty four to seven since the portion of the interstate collapsed. 137 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 3: On June eleventh. Petation Secretary Mike Carroll reached out to 138 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: Ricky Durst at the Pocono Raceway to see if the 139 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: state could use its dryer to keep moisture off the road. 140 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 13: It is a jet engine. It's gonna blow out about 141 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 13: fourteen hundred at fourteen hundred Greece fahrenheit. It's about three 142 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 13: thousand pounds of forty as the secretary says, it's buckled 143 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 13: into chabby Silverado, So it's a little bit of Franks 144 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 13: time thing. 145 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 3: Pen Dot says. During the asphalt paving, there were concerns 146 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 3: that rain would hold up repair crews. A judge just 147 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 3: blocked Wyoming's first in the nation ban on abortion pills 148 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 3: before it was set to be implemented July first. Several 149 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 3: states have banned abortion outright or restricted access to abortion pills. 150 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 3: The ruling comes just ahead of the one year anniversary 151 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 3: of the Supreme Court, essentially overturning Roe v. Wade In 152 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 3: battled Congressman George Santos is slamming a judge for revealing 153 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 3: his father and aunt were the ones who co signed 154 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 3: a bail bond to keep him out of jail. 155 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: My whole thing around keeping the sureties secret. What's for 156 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: their safety? 157 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: Because of the death threats I. 158 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 2: Get, I can handle that I ran for public office, 159 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: stated not, you're private citizens. One's a United States Postal worker, 160 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: the other ones a painter. 161 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 3: A request granted to when seal Court records revealed the 162 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 3: Long Island Republicans father and on co signed the five 163 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars bond that enabled Santos's release, as he 164 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 3: awaits trial on federal charges of fraud, money laundering, and 165 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 3: theft of public funds. Prosecutors in New Mexico filed a 166 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 3: new charge against the armorer on the set of the 167 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 3: movie rust Hannegutierras Reed is now accused of evidence dampering 168 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 3: related to narcotics in connection with the fatal shooting of 169 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 3: cinematographer Helena Hutchins. The FDA is doubling down on banning 170 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: e cigarettes. It's warning store owners stop selling fruit and 171 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 3: candy flavored vapes, saying they pose a danger to young people. 172 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 3: Global News twenty four hours a day, powered by more 173 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 3: than twenty seven hundred journalists and analysts in over one 174 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 3: hundred twenty countries. I'm Michael Barran. This is Bloomberg. Nathan. 175 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: All right, Michael, thank you time now for the Bloomberg 176 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 2: Sports Update with John Stasheller. All right, Nathan, and the 177 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: Yankee game pretty much over. 178 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 4: Before the Yanks came to the plate, they were already 179 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 4: trailing Seattle four nothing. Mariners then scored twice in each 180 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 4: of the next three innings. It was ten to nothing 181 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 4: until in Isaiah Connor Fi left a two run homer 182 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 4: bottom of the ninth IKF had pitched a perfect top 183 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 4: of the ninth. Mariners won ten to two to avoid 184 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 4: getting swept Yankees os Texas tonight. Mets are in Philadelphia. 185 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 4: They had good success with the Phillis last season, and 186 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 4: they swept them a few weeks ago. But since that sweep, 187 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 4: the Phillies have gone thirteen and four and the Mets 188 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 4: have gone four and thirteen. The Jets back in March 189 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 4: acquired veteran safety Chuff Clark from Baltimore. He tore his 190 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 4: ACL an off season practice. 191 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 3: He'll miss the season. 192 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 4: Convictor wembn Yama live up to a tremendous amount of five, 193 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 4: nineteen years old from France, seven foot four, best NBA 194 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 4: prospect since Lebron James, drafted first overall by San Antonio 195 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 4: and focusing on team goals. 196 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 14: Some Pyers have tried to win the championship, win a 197 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 14: ring for years and haven't made it. And I want to. 198 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 8: I want to. 199 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 14: I don't want to be one of those, you know, 200 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 14: So yeah, this is the this is gonna be my 201 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 14: My goal is going to be to get closer and 202 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 14: closer every time to the ring. 203 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 4: Charlotte, with the second pook took Alabama's Brandon Millard Portland 204 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 4: followed with Stute Henderson who played in the G League, 205 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 4: and then Houston and Detroit and consecutive picks took twin 206 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 4: brothers a man in Ostair Thompson. The Nets back to 207 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 4: back first round picks took Noah Clowney from Alabama, then 208 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 4: Duke's Derek Whitehead. Another big NBA trade, Chris Paul now 209 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 4: goes from Washington to Golden State for Jordan Coole Travelers 210 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 4: Golf near hard for Jenny McCarthy leeds by two. Rory 211 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 4: McElroy trails by eight, but McElroy had the first hole 212 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 4: in one of his pro career John Stash that went 213 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 4: to Bluebird Sports. 214 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 5: From coast to coast, from New York to San Francisco, 215 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 5: Boston to Washington, DC, nationwide on siriusxam the Bloomberg Business 216 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 5: Appen Bloomberg dot com. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 217 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. With the explosion of chat 218 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 2: GPT over the past year, companies are looking to implement 219 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: artificial intelligence across their businesses. But what will the future 220 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 2: look like with AI in it? Open AI CEO and 221 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 2: co founder Sam Altman joined our Emily Chang. At the 222 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: Bloomberg Technology Summit, they discussed existential questions about AI and 223 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: what should be done to regulate this powerful technology. Let's 224 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 2: listen in to part of that discussion. 225 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 15: Now, there's many ways it could go wrong, but we 226 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 15: work with powerful technology that can be used in dangerous 227 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 15: ways very frequently in the world, and I think we've 228 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 15: developed over the decades good safety system practices in many categories. 229 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 8: It's not perfect, and this won't be perfect either. 230 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 15: Things will go wrong, but I think we'll be able 231 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 15: to mitigate some of the worst scenarios you could imagine. 232 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 15: You know, bioterror is like a common example, cybersecurities another, 233 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 15: like many more we could talk about. But the main 234 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 15: thing that I feel is important about this technology is 235 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 15: that we are on an exponential curve and a relatively 236 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 15: steep one, and human intuition for exponential curves is like 237 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 15: really bad in general. It clearly was not that important 238 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 15: in our evolutionary history, and so I think we have 239 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 15: to given that we all have that weakness. I think 240 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 15: we have to like really push ourselves to say, Okay, 241 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 15: GPT four, you know, not a risk like you're talking 242 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 15: about there, but how sure we the GPT nine won't 243 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 15: be and if it might be, even if there's a 244 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 15: small percentage chance of it being really bad, like that 245 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 15: deserves great care. 246 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 16: And if there is that small percentage chance, why keep 247 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 16: doing this at all? 248 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 15: Like why not stop a I think that the upsides 249 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 15: here are tremendous, you know, opportunity for everyone on earth 250 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 15: to have a better quality education than basically any one 251 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 15: can get today. That seems like really important, and that'd 252 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 15: be a bad thing to stop medical care And what's 253 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 15: I think going to happen there and making that available 254 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 15: like truly globally, that's going to be transformative. The scientific 255 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 15: progress we're going to see. I'm a big believer that like, 256 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 15: real sustainable improvements in quality of life come from scientific 257 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 15: and technological progress, and I think we're gonna have a 258 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 15: lot more of that. So there are all the obvious benefits, 259 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 15: and you know, like I think would be good to 260 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 15: end poverty, Like maybe you think we should stop a 261 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 15: technology that can do that, I personally don't, but we 262 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 15: got to manage through the risk to get there. I 263 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 15: also think at this point, given how much people see 264 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 15: the economic benefits and potential, no company could stop it. 265 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 15: But global regulation which I only think should be on 266 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 15: these like powerful existential risk level systems. Global regulation is hard, 267 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 15: and you know you don't want to overdo it for sure, 268 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 15: But I think global regulation can help make it safe, 269 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 15: which is a better answer than stopping it. 270 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 8: So don't think stopping it would work. 271 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 16: Let's talk about the global regulation. You've been around the 272 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 16: world meeting with regulators. You met with President Biden and 273 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 16: the CEOs of Microsoft and Google, and you're calling for regulation, 274 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 16: but with some caveats. The critics say it sounds like 275 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 16: you're saying regulate us but not really, or that you 276 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 16: are calling for regulation in public but lobbying for something 277 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 16: else in private. 278 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 8: How would you respond to that, we're pushing for it 279 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 8: in private too. 280 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 15: I mean, obviously we have some opinions about the ways 281 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 15: to do it that'll be effective and that will be ineffective. We, 282 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 15: for example, don't think small startups and open source models 283 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 15: below a certain very high capability threshold should be subject 284 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 15: to a lot of regulation. But also we think it 285 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 15: is super important that as we think about a system 286 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 15: that could be at a risk level like you were 287 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 15: talking about, that we have a global and as a 288 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 15: coordinated response as possible so we've been talking about that 289 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 15: publicly privately, I think it's really important. 290 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 3: You know. 291 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 15: You could like point out that it's we're like trying 292 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 15: to do regulatory capture here or whatever, but I just don't. 293 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 15: I think that's like so transparently intellectually dishonest. 294 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 8: I don't even know how to respond. 295 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 16: You have an incredible amount of power at this moment 296 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 16: in time. 297 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 8: Why should we trust you? 298 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 15: You shouldn't, you know, mean for a long time public talking, 299 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 15: I'd rather be in the office working, But I think 300 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 15: at this moment in time, like people deserve basically as 301 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 15: much time asking questions as they want, and I'm trying 302 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 15: to show up and do it. But more to that, 303 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 15: like no one person should be trusted here. I don't 304 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 15: have super voting shares. I don't want them. The board 305 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 15: can fire me. I think that's important. I think the 306 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 15: board over time needs to get like democratized to all 307 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 15: of humanity. There's many ways that could be implemented. 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