Speaker 1: Three two one zero all engine running liftoff. We have
Speaker 1: a liftof Welcome back to the solid verbal Friday Orbit Show.
Speaker 1: My name is ty Hildebrandt, joining me as always over
Speaker 1: there in Chicago, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, Sir, how
Speaker 1: are you?
Speaker 2: I am ready for an intergalactic ride of a lifetime
Speaker 2: on this UFO episode, Tye, That's how I am. We
Speaker 2: have decided on the U portions. It's the UFO show.
Speaker 2: We do it every Friday. We're a college football show.
Speaker 1: But we take on a weird kind of space quasi
Speaker 1: theme on these Friday episodes. Ultramegastar Friday Orbit is what
Speaker 1: we're I think going with today.
Speaker 2: Right, somehow an e been more mega, more ultrastar than
Speaker 2: Eastern PA's Ty hilden brand is appearing. I mean, you
Speaker 2: were just recognized in a Wegmans. It's true, fair, it
Speaker 2: is true. But we have somehow booked a star bigger
Speaker 2: than you. We've been trying to do this forever and
Speaker 2: the stars aligned tie space term and we are as
Speaker 2: you know because you've seen the episode title. We are
Speaker 2: incredibly thrilled and honored to welcome in angels in the
Speaker 2: outfield's own Matthew McConaughey.
Speaker 1: Angels in the Outfield, Dallas Buyers wrote, credit Magic, Mike,
Speaker 1: A Time to Kill Interstellar. The list goes on and on.
Speaker 1: Matthew McConaughey has been in a bunch of cool movies
Speaker 1: and he's obviously the Minister of Culture down there at
Speaker 1: the University of Texas. Huge Longhorns fan. We are so
Speaker 1: very thrilled to have him on the program. Been trying
Speaker 1: to do so for gosh. I went back years look
Speaker 1: through my email trying to get him on. So finally
Speaker 1: worked out. As he said, the stars lined, he's going
Speaker 1: to be on a little bit. We've got a bunch
Speaker 1: of cool stuff to talk about with him, including his
Speaker 1: new memoir, which we'll link up in the show notes
Speaker 1: called green Lights. I did have the good fortune to
Speaker 1: read it. It's really good, really an.
Speaker 2: Of crazy stories, worth a read, and we're crazy excited
Speaker 2: to have him on.
Speaker 1: Before we go any further, we also want to talk
Speaker 1: about what we are doing on Halloween. Dan, give me
Speaker 1: a spooky laugh. If you've got one of those, Thank you.
Speaker 1: I might have been a little Santa. I applied. It
Speaker 1: was a little bit of Santa at the end it's okay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're doing what we're calling the Solid Verbal live scream
Speaker 1: at seven pm Eastern on Halloween Saturday night, shortly before
Speaker 1: the Penn State Ohio State game. Will be doing it
Speaker 1: for our Patreon subscribers. Will be on Discord answering questions
Speaker 1: as we're doing our live stream. We're obviously going to
Speaker 1: talk about whatever transpires during the day games, also viewing
Speaker 1: the night games, the most notable, which is of course
Speaker 1: Ohio State Penn State. We are working on maybe trying
Speaker 1: to bring some special friends in as part of that.
Speaker 1: Don't know if we'll be able to make that happen
Speaker 1: or not, but there's potential.
Speaker 2: I mean, we're bringing McConaughey to the fold. I mean,
Speaker 2: how much can we do it on Saturday night? But
Speaker 2: I know, I know. But just to the verballers out there,
Speaker 2: I hear you.
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Speaker 1: You can get access to the Halloween live scream, and
Speaker 1: you get access to any future live streams that we
Speaker 1: do in the future, depending on how this goes.
Speaker 2: I like anchoring these two holidays because we've got a
Speaker 2: great full calendar year of holidays to do these, but
Speaker 2: especially during the football season tie. It allows us to
Speaker 2: dress up, It allows us to have a theme about
Speaker 2: about the live I mean, this one is a live scream,
Speaker 2: but the streams in general. I couldn't be more excited.
Speaker 2: And the reason I'm excited is because the people who
Speaker 2: have signed up on Patreon these certified and premium verballers
Speaker 2: and potentially a benefactor of Verballer. If everything works out,
Speaker 2: we are going to be bringing emotion that we don't
Speaker 2: normally bring on Sunday mornings when we record the recap
Speaker 2: because we don't have time to put things in perspective.
Speaker 2: We're just going raw off of what we've seen and
Speaker 2: what we want to see. So what we've seen during
Speaker 2: the day what we want to see at night, and
Speaker 2: we are incredibly excited to do it with what I
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Speaker 2: have a lot of excitement in going into this live
Speaker 2: scream on Saturday night at seven pm Eastern.
Speaker 1: I am drinking out of my soliverable plank glass at
Speaker 1: the moment. Are you in preparation for the bruine to
Speaker 1: do after?
Speaker 2: Committed to the brand?
Speaker 3: Hy?
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Speaker 1: Committed to the brand?
Speaker 2: Okay, check that out.
Speaker 1: We will be talking with mister McConaughey shortly before we
Speaker 1: get there, though I can't yell today. My voice is
Speaker 1: just toast after a long time. You give me an
Speaker 1: aggressive like McConaughey. Ask whisper, like an intense whisper. About
Speaker 1: the breaking news, breaking news, breaking news. Three things to
Speaker 1: discuss here, Dan, Yeah, Wisconsin, Nebraska it's off. They're not playing.
Speaker 1: We previewed it, talked a lot about it. I think
Speaker 1: we both went Nebraska give an uncertainty. You may recall
Speaker 1: the line was up there around eight and a half
Speaker 1: when it opened. The news broke about Graham Mertz, Chase
Speaker 1: Wolf and Danny Van den Boom potentially being the starting
Speaker 1: quarterback due to COVID, and now it looks like that
Speaker 1: game is off, which is a bummer. Nebraska actually tried
Speaker 1: to schedule a game with Chattanooga to just find a replacement.
Speaker 1: They put a deal together that was nixed by the
Speaker 1: Big Ten. So it's not look like Nebraska's going to
Speaker 1: be playing this weekend either, despite their best efforts.
Speaker 2: Right, and Nebraska had even offered to pay for and
Speaker 2: help everything with testing for the mocks, and I think
Speaker 2: everybody sort of looked at it as a long shot. Obviously, Nebraska,
Speaker 2: when things were up in the air with the Big Ten,
Speaker 2: had sort of floated, or at least Scott Frost had floated,
Speaker 2: we'll play anyone anywhere, like a Pat Hill type enthusiasm,
Speaker 2: and that obviously didn't happen. And this is obviously not happening.
Speaker 2: So Nebraska, with an unexpected by week Wisconsin has shut
Speaker 2: down all team activities. And I did see Barry Alvarez
Speaker 2: responded to a recent report about the heart screening for
Speaker 2: myocarditis with COVID positive tests and how doc and you know,
Speaker 2: everybody's learning everything at once, essentially, but doctors are saying,
Speaker 2: you know, we're finding so little in terms of myocarditis,
Speaker 2: and we don't even know if what we are finding
Speaker 2: is due to COVID or it's due to an undetected
Speaker 2: birth situation, cardiovascular situation, and so Barry Alvarez was very
Speaker 2: quick to say, you know, we should look into this
Speaker 2: because part of that twenty one day Big Ten sit
Speaker 2: out policy after a couple positive tests is related to
Speaker 2: full screening and giving everybody full time to fully understand.
Speaker 2: I guess, to whatever ability, what is going on with
Speaker 2: that positive test and how it's affecting an athlete's body,
Speaker 2: so we'll see. I mean, everything in twenty twenty is fluid,
Speaker 2: so worth paying attention to. And good news for sure
Speaker 2: about myocarditis not appearing in positive COVID tests. I take
Speaker 2: on that as a positive thing because I don't like
Speaker 2: when people have a hard situation that to deal with.
Speaker 1: No, no, for sure to your point about everything in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty being fluid. News Broke also that quinn Ewers
Speaker 1: the number one overall recruit in the twenty twenty two
Speaker 1: class A quarterback out of Texas. He had previously been
Speaker 1: committed to the University of Texas. He has since decommitted,
Speaker 1: going to open up his recruitment again consider his options.
Speaker 1: He's being recruited by places like Ohio, state like Alabama,
Speaker 1: Obviously he's the number one kid, so he has his
Speaker 1: pick of the proverbial litter when it comes to where
Speaker 1: he's going next. But a bit of a buber for Texas.
Speaker 1: You know, we're going to talk with mister McConaughey briefly
Speaker 1: about the culture at Texas and is it back? What
Speaker 1: does back mean to get talent like this in State?
Speaker 1: I think all kind of plays into that, and it's
Speaker 1: it's a bummer to hear this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And obviously when Texas most certainly was not back,
Speaker 2: it was when they struggled at quarterback with both injuries
Speaker 2: and with talent. You know, the Garrett Gilbert, David ash
Speaker 2: Case McCoy was not an amazing stretch for Texas is football.
Speaker 2: But even if Quinn yours decides to recommit to Texas,
Speaker 2: if that's what's in his plans, there's still a lot
Speaker 2: of questions about what Texas is looking like moving forward.
Speaker 2: In Ohio State and Alabama each have a quarterback of
Speaker 2: the future that they signed last year, which they're going
Speaker 2: to sign most years. CJ. Stroud at Ohio State and
Speaker 2: Bryce I always want to say, Bryce Young, Is it
Speaker 2: Bryce Young? Bryce Jones? Bryce Young?
Speaker 3: Okay, there's so many.
Speaker 2: Bryce is such a good name that you know, Quinn
Speaker 2: yours apparently a five star quarterback, six star mullet by
Speaker 2: the way, Oh really, I don't know if you had
Speaker 2: a chance really good investigate and inspect. But yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 2: worth paying attention to. Because quarterback dominoes seem to be
Speaker 2: falling sooner and sooner each recruiting cycle, affecting where everybody
Speaker 2: else is going to end up. So whatever he decides
Speaker 2: is certainly going to end up affecting the So this
Speaker 2: is not this year's coming class, but next year's.
Speaker 1: The final bit of news also pertaining to quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: I have here is that we talked about Miles Brennan
Speaker 1: practicing potentially being ready for that Auburn game this weekend.
Speaker 1: Does not look like that is going to be the case.
Speaker 1: He's still working on an injury that he picked up
Speaker 1: I guess more than two weeks ago now, which means TJ. Finley,
Speaker 1: a freshman, he's going to get his second consecutive start.
Speaker 1: Finley was formerly a four star prospect through for two
Speaker 1: sixty five two touchdowns last Saturday.
Speaker 2: Had a really nice debut. Yeah, pretty raw, I would say,
Speaker 2: But in terms of the physical tools and ability to
Speaker 2: get the ball to more developed players running backs and
Speaker 2: receivers and tight ends. Seems to be more than serviceable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean looked raw, but also had a confidence
Speaker 1: about him that I think LC fans could feel good about.
Speaker 1: So we'll see how he fares against against the Auburn Tigers.
Speaker 1: But perhaps if that's a game you had circled for
Speaker 1: this coming weekend, your plans to go look a little different.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Also saw the five I guess antigen tests. Maybe you
Speaker 2: can speak to what that exactly is.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: The antigen test that came back positive for Oregon players
Speaker 2: were deemed to be a false positive upon the further
Speaker 2: is it PCR test? Hi, that's the most percise one, correct, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the PCR one. So that's good news for Oregon football
Speaker 2: and players that they don't have players quarantining, they don't
Speaker 2: have players potentially symptomatic, and they're moving forward. Shall we
Speaker 2: do it?
Speaker 1: Dan?
Speaker 2: I cannot wait joining us now.
Speaker 1: It's a gentleman we've wanted to have on the show
Speaker 1: for quite some time. He needs no introduction. It is
Speaker 1: the one and only Matthew McConaughey, Sir, Welcome to the
Speaker 1: solid verbal How are you.
Speaker 3: Dan, Tom doing relatively pretty well? How are y'all doing?
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, fantastic.
Speaker 1: We are doing well. So we're obviously going to talk
Speaker 1: some football with you. Sure, but before we get their
Speaker 1: congratulations on the book green Lights. I see the hat.
Speaker 1: I like the hat.
Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, thank you. This is the truest permanent extension
Speaker 3: of me I've ever put out, and I'm happy to
Speaker 3: hear how it's training out there and being received in
Speaker 3: the world. I'm honored. I'm honored with it, and I'm
Speaker 3: happy to say that that was no guarantee.
Speaker 1: It's been out for what about a week now. I
Speaker 1: had the good fortune to read it this past week
Speaker 1: and I couldn't put the thing down. Man, it's a
Speaker 1: hell of a story. So kudos to.
Speaker 3: You, thank you, Thank you much.
Speaker 1: Man. So in the opening chapter of the book, it
Speaker 1: is your mother brandishing a knife at your father, which
Speaker 1: is a hell of a way to grab an audience's attention.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of personal stories in this book,
Speaker 1: which it's a risky move, frankly, not just because you're
Speaker 1: showing a lot of vulnerability, but because personal stories don't
Speaker 1: always land with other people. The way they might with you.
Speaker 1: That was not the case here, at least not for me.
Speaker 1: Is that something that you considered when putting this together?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I did consider it. Look, I went away to write,
Speaker 3: you know, my diaries and journals of thirty six years.
Speaker 3: On the surface, that's like, well, so what I mean,
Speaker 3: so you want to share that with the world. How's
Speaker 3: that going to translate? What I found out? And I
Speaker 3: didn't know, you know, if if there were if I
Speaker 3: was going to find in those journals something that was
Speaker 3: worthy of sharing. I do remember this. I remember writing
Speaker 3: this down on day four when I took When I
Speaker 3: was writing, I said, the words on these pages need
Speaker 3: to be worthy if signed by anonymous, but at the
Speaker 3: same time be a book that only I could have written.
Speaker 3: And that's what I tried to pull off. So what
Speaker 3: I mean by that, I can tell you a personal story,
Speaker 3: but is that relatable? Can you see yourself in it?
Speaker 3: Do you have the did you did you you know,
Speaker 3: did your life story open up with a story with
Speaker 3: your mom brandishing a twelve inch knife on your dad
Speaker 3: and your dad with the ketchup bottle? Probably not, But
Speaker 3: did you have times and things you may have seen
Speaker 3: as a kid that shaped who you were or or
Speaker 3: or you know, hardships in your own life at times
Speaker 3: where you're like, wow, I would have wished that hardship
Speaker 3: on anybody, but it had a green light asset that
Speaker 3: it revealed to me later in life. Lesson that I
Speaker 3: learned that helped me move and get on my way
Speaker 3: and on my path. So what I did find that
Speaker 3: surprised me is the more personal I got, the more
Speaker 3: relatable actually that the stories became, which happens. You know,
Speaker 3: it surprised me, But then I look back at acting.
Speaker 3: My best roles are when I go to the most personal,
Speaker 3: and my roles that have translated to more people that
Speaker 3: they go I saw myself in that were the roles
Speaker 3: that were the most personal to me. And that's that's
Speaker 3: that's so in that way, the book is about the
Speaker 3: human condition. You may not have the same examples and
Speaker 3: circumstances experiences exactly that I had, but we've all had
Speaker 3: similar times in our life when we were lost or
Speaker 3: needed to find our frequency and could not, but then
Speaker 3: later did And well, it's all science in the rearview mirror.
Speaker 3: It all adds up in the rear view mirror going forward,
Speaker 3: it's all a mystery, but looking back you can kind
Speaker 3: of connect the dots and see how we got to
Speaker 3: where we are.
Speaker 1: The title is green lights. Explain to the audience what
Speaker 1: that means to you.
Speaker 3: So green lights, right, we love green lights. They say, go,
Speaker 3: we can keep our pedal, We can keep our foot
Speaker 3: on the pedal. Man, They affirm our way. They say, yes,
Speaker 3: they are freedom. We do not like yellow and red lights.
Speaker 3: They slow us down and they stop us in our tracks.
Speaker 3: We don't want red and yell lights. But often, most
Speaker 3: of the times I've found that red and yell lights
Speaker 3: can cometimes give us what we need. Maybe we don't
Speaker 3: want it, but they can give us what we need
Speaker 3: and help us grow. There are green lights that we
Speaker 3: can create in our lives with our own choices, meaning like,
Speaker 3: we can make choices today that tee us up for
Speaker 3: success tomorrow, that bring us less stress tomorrow, all the
Speaker 3: way down to the simplest things I'm talking about. Put
Speaker 3: your coffee and your coffee filter tonight before you go
Speaker 3: to bed, so tomorrow morning, all you gotta do is
Speaker 3: press the button that's a green light. You've teed yourself
Speaker 3: up for ease. You were kind to your future self
Speaker 3: but they also come in choices that we make with
Speaker 3: our relationships, our responsibilities to our relationships, our accountability for
Speaker 3: our relationships, and ourselves out They reveal choices we can
Speaker 3: make on our careers as well that TuS up for
Speaker 3: more success and more things that turn us on personally
Speaker 3: in our future. We were responsible for those other times
Speaker 3: green light's just fall in our laps and we get
Speaker 3: damn lucky. I don't know where they came from. I
Speaker 3: got lucky. What am I going to do with it? Sometimes,
Speaker 3: as I was mentioned in the beginning, a green light
Speaker 3: is just how we see a certain situation at that time.
Speaker 3: It's about perspective. We can be in a hardship and
Speaker 3: notice when we're in it, ooh, there's a green light
Speaker 3: lesson I'm supposed to learn here. This just sucks, but
Speaker 3: it's going to be good in the long run. Sometimes
Speaker 3: we don't notice till tomorrow. Sometimes we don't know this
Speaker 3: till next week. Sometimes we're probably not going to notice
Speaker 3: what those green lights were in those red and yellow
Speaker 3: lights until we're on our deathbed. But eventually, the red
Speaker 3: and yellow lights in our lives, I do believe, do
Speaker 3: reveal green light assets or actually turn Green themselves.
Speaker 1: One of the more interesting stories in the book was
Speaker 1: how you describe the process of picking Texas as your college.
Speaker 1: So certainly everyone on this call, certainly everybody listening to
Speaker 1: the show knows, Matthew McConaughey, native son of Texas, proud Longhorn,
Speaker 1: you actually wanted to go to SMU. Yeah, how did
Speaker 1: that go down?
Speaker 3: So I'm in Australia as an exchange student. I want
Speaker 3: to be a lawyer. I figure you're SMUs in Dallas,
Speaker 3: at a major metropolis. I've always been a big fan
Speaker 3: of experiential learning, so in my mind at that time,
Speaker 3: I'm like, look, as a metropolis, I'll be able to
Speaker 3: get an internship in a law school in Dallas sooner
Speaker 3: than I would in Austin. Therefore, I could be in
Speaker 3: practice as a lawyer probably sooner, with more options in
Speaker 3: places to do. So my dad, who was going to
Speaker 3: pay for school, calls me one time. I'm in Australia,
Speaker 3: right fro, I'm about to come home and I just
Speaker 3: started applying to colleges and he says he always called
Speaker 3: a school by their mascot. He's like, so you want
Speaker 3: to be a Mustang? Huh? I yes, sir. I told
Speaker 3: him those reasons why, and he goes, what about what
Speaker 3: about being a longhorn, buddy? And I was like, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: I want to be a Mustang and here's those reasons why.
Speaker 3: And he's like you sure, like yeah, yeah, I'm sure
Speaker 3: me Hang up, I have no idea why my dad's
Speaker 3: saying want to be a longhorn. The phone rings five
Speaker 3: minutes later and to my brother Pat middle brother. He goes, hey, man,
Speaker 3: thet brother. Dad ain't gonna tell you this, but financial
Speaker 3: times are tough. The oil business has gone on the tank.
Speaker 3: He's kind of broke, and it's going to cost him
Speaker 3: three times as much to send you to SMU then
Speaker 3: it will you t you should go to Texas And
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know about that, you know,
Speaker 3: And he goes, man, have you ever been to Austin?
Speaker 3: And I said no. He goes your shirtlet's no shoes wearing.
Speaker 3: I say, is gonna love it, man. You can walk
Speaker 3: in Austin and saddle up at a bar and you're
Speaker 3: gonna have a cowboy to the right of your Texas
Speaker 3: ranger to the right of you, and a lesbian to
Speaker 3: your left and a dwarf on the other side of them,
Speaker 3: and and and and somebody else on the other side.
Speaker 3: It's your kind of place. All you got to be
Speaker 3: is you in Austin. And I was like, that sounds good.
Speaker 3: Well he was right. I called. I called my dad
Speaker 3: right after that, knowing that it would financially help him,
Speaker 3: and said, I want to be a long horn. He's like, oh,
Speaker 3: great idea, buddy, Come horns man. And that's why I went.
Speaker 3: And Look, if I didn't go to University of Texas,
Speaker 3: I probably wouldn't be sitting there talking to you with
Speaker 3: life I have right now.
Speaker 2: It's true and one of the things that obviously came
Speaker 2: of that, especially coming from Texas. You've written about how
Speaker 2: football has been meaningful to you basically your entire life,
Speaker 2: from your dad's playing career. It's obviously going to ut
Speaker 2: What is it about college though, that has resonated with
Speaker 2: you more so than the pros, more than high school,
Speaker 2: more than any other level. What is it about the
Speaker 2: college football level that is in your DNA?
Speaker 3: Well, the purity and look it might be in somewhat romantic,
Speaker 3: it's getting to be more and more of a romantic
Speaker 3: notion with each day as college sports become their own business.
Speaker 3: But that fact of you've got four years on average
Speaker 3: at one place to play school. There's not a free agency,
Speaker 3: you're not gonna you know, now you've got more transfers
Speaker 3: than you used to is still overall. It's not like
Speaker 3: you know, in the pros. Now you can love your
Speaker 3: team this year and it may be a completely different
Speaker 3: team next year. You still may love the team, but
Speaker 3: your players may be completely different. In college, you've got
Speaker 3: that that they're you know, they're essentially not getting paid
Speaker 3: like they do in pro sports. They're still eighteen to
Speaker 3: twenty two years old, most of them in a place
Speaker 3: at the University of Texas where the absolute stud in
Speaker 3: their high school. They really find out how much of
Speaker 3: a stud they are on an overall level. Obviously, most
Speaker 3: of them do not go pro. A lot more of
Speaker 3: them think they're going to go pro than they actually do. Obviously,
Speaker 3: it's the ritual around it, it's the school spirit behind it.
Speaker 3: It's where the mascot still really means something, or at
Speaker 3: least I sure like to believe that it really means something.
Speaker 3: It's an expectation and it's time when young men are
Speaker 3: growing into becoming men it is teamwork at the same time,
Speaker 3: it's individual responsibility. That's what I love about the sport
Speaker 3: of football. It's battle at the University of Texas one
Speaker 3: of my favorite things. And this is under debate now
Speaker 3: of should the Eyes of Texas still remain. But one
Speaker 3: of the things I love about the song is that
Speaker 3: we play it and stand for it after wins and losses,
Speaker 3: which is basically after a loss is saying we may
Speaker 3: have lost the battle, but we're still going to win
Speaker 3: the war. When it's an ongoing thing, you're playing for
Speaker 3: Alma made that was there before you. You're playing for
Speaker 3: young athletes that are going to come after you. And
Speaker 3: it's my favorite. It's my favorite sport in the world.
Speaker 3: College football is my favorite sport that I like to
Speaker 3: I like to follow, and I'm just you know, you see,
Speaker 3: these young men are more impressionable. It's so much about
Speaker 3: I say this all the time. If someone can figure
Speaker 3: out the key to unlock the mind of the eighteen
Speaker 3: to twenty two year old young male athlete, there's more
Speaker 3: than gold in there. I mean, they're because so much
Speaker 3: of it is about confidence. So much it is about
Speaker 3: where are they mentally? You see teams go out there
Speaker 3: that you know, do not have the physical capacity to
Speaker 3: even wear the jockstrap of the team they're playing, But
Speaker 3: if they're mentally on it, they can beat that team
Speaker 3: on that Saturday. You know, I've been I've been able
Speaker 3: to see games like the two thousand and five National
Speaker 3: Championship when we beat USC. You couldn't write that script
Speaker 3: in Hollywood, you couldn't write that script. That's the best drama,
Speaker 3: one of the best dramas I've ever seen, and it
Speaker 3: was live. So that's that's some of the stuff I
Speaker 3: love about it.
Speaker 2: What would it have taken for you? You were not
Speaker 2: a college football recruit when you were talking about SMU
Speaker 2: VERSUS Texas. Yeah, if you were a college football recruit,
Speaker 2: what is in the seventeen or eighteen year old Matthew
Speaker 2: McConaughey's mind that would have unlocked him to get him
Speaker 2: to Texas, USC cal Florida State. What would have swayed
Speaker 2: you at that moment?
Speaker 3: Well, one, I think my legs would need to be
Speaker 3: about two inches longer.
Speaker 2: Well, in the hypothetical that you are a five star
Speaker 2: Our Blue cheperd Crew, what.
Speaker 3: Would have gotten me to go play? Well, you know,
Speaker 3: my dad played at University of Kentucky unto Bear Bryant.
Speaker 3: He had a falling out with him, transferred to Houston,
Speaker 3: and then got drafted by the Green Bay Packers. He
Speaker 3: let me tell you this story about football. He came
Speaker 3: to us and we were you know, I grew up
Speaker 3: in Texas. My brothers and I all played football up
Speaker 3: to a certain level. I remember being very nervous. And
Speaker 3: this story is not in the book, but I remember
Speaker 3: being very nervous about telling him I didn't want to
Speaker 3: play football in high school. And I called him back
Speaker 3: from my room and tell him. And I was nervous
Speaker 3: and I told him, and he goes, oh, great, great idea, buddy.
Speaker 3: I told him I wanted to play golf, and he goes, great,
Speaker 3: play golf. You can play that too. You go down.
Speaker 3: I go, Dad, why are you so? Why is he?
Speaker 3: Why are you so amendable to this idea? He goes,
Speaker 3: you know, how can you tell it's me coming to
Speaker 3: your room before I get there? I go, yeah, yes, sir,
Speaker 3: And he goes, how can you tell? I said, I
Speaker 3: can hear you. He goes, what do you hear? I
Speaker 3: go out here, Bob. He goes, yeah, man, I gotta
Speaker 3: played in here. I got screwed in here. He goes
Speaker 3: play golf, you'll play it til you go down. I
Speaker 3: would have been a good linebacker, That's my mentality, meaning
Speaker 3: that spot on defense that has to do with speed
Speaker 3: and power and really putting your nose in it and
Speaker 3: reading an offense in the middle of the field is
Speaker 3: where I would have where I mentally excel. Meaning when
Speaker 3: I played baseball, I was an all star catcher. When
Speaker 3: I played soccer, I was an all star goalie. I
Speaker 3: love defense, and that place in linebacker was where I
Speaker 3: thought my body was going to go to give me
Speaker 3: the ability to play. And then I got kind of
Speaker 3: my growth kind of got stumped around the eighth ninth
Speaker 3: grade and where I was bigger before now I wasn't bigger,
Speaker 3: but I also didn't have the speed, so I would
Speaker 3: have played linebacker. My favorite one of my favorite football
Speaker 3: players growing up as a guy in Hall of Famer named
Speaker 3: Chris Hanburger for what is now called the Washington football team,
Speaker 3: and his deal was he could hit you at the
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage, have you completely wrapped up. He may
Speaker 3: give you two extra yards past that, but he loved
Speaker 3: to grab you and throw you down and then stand
Speaker 3: over you and go, look, see I didn't go down
Speaker 3: the ground with you. And he may give you two
Speaker 3: extra yards on that, but I loved I. I have
Speaker 3: a linebacker's mentality, and I've carried that linebacker's mentality throughout
Speaker 3: my life and it's helped me in my own career.
Speaker 2: You now have, well, you have a couple roles at
Speaker 2: the University of Texas. Obviously, the Minister of Culture thing
Speaker 2: has been well written about and it's well known at
Speaker 2: this point. Also, you teach a class at UT, and
Speaker 2: your class is your background. It's film studies, it's you know,
Speaker 2: from the screen to the studio, all sorts of things
Speaker 2: that you have decades of experience, and you didn't have
Speaker 2: experience in college sports. This is a foreign industry to you.
Speaker 2: Where does the confidence come from within you to go
Speaker 2: to UT and say I have ideas, I have thoughts, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I am committed. Where does that confidence come from?
Speaker 3: Well, the same values and business. Part of my work
Speaker 3: as a Mister of Culture trying to align the same
Speaker 3: values that look the same values. It takes to have
Speaker 3: a championship team on the field or in the pool,
Speaker 3: or on the on the pitch or or on the course.
Speaker 3: The same values for championships. There are the same values
Speaker 3: that it takes for students who are not athletes to
Speaker 3: go and succeed and do the best they can and
Speaker 3: succeed in business. So I want to align those values
Speaker 3: and how do how do we maintain and make sure
Speaker 3: we are still becoming even more so a university that's
Speaker 3: not only putting champions out on the field in a sport,
Speaker 3: but also putting champions out into life as civilians, in
Speaker 3: the workplaces, as individuals. So, you know, I'm now fifty.
Speaker 3: You know the class that I teach, it was it
Speaker 3: was a very I remember the time I was sitting there.
Speaker 3: I would always go talk to the students in film
Speaker 3: classes long before the class got started, and they started
Speaker 3: to be like really really interested in what I was
Speaker 3: saying and take notes and tell me that was so
Speaker 3: awesome that with knowledge you dropped on so and I
Speaker 3: was like, in my mind, really, I just took that
Speaker 3: for granted. I thought everyone knew that, and I always
Speaker 3: felt like I was just here in college like four
Speaker 3: years ago. Well, no, it's been a little bit longer
Speaker 3: than that. So I realized, oh, I put together a
Speaker 3: career and gained experience that is worth sharing. And actually
Speaker 3: then I got the confidence say well, let's create a
Speaker 3: class because I may take it for granted, but I
Speaker 3: have a lot of experience that these students, these serious
Speaker 3: film students do not have. And then I thought about
Speaker 3: what is the class I would have wanted? What is
Speaker 3: the class I wish they would have had for me
Speaker 3: when I was at films, And it was this, how
Speaker 3: does an original script get to screen? Many many changes
Speaker 3: and adaptations along the way. So in our class, we
Speaker 3: chronologically follow the journey as script takes to get to screen,
Speaker 3: and we show you the science behind the magic of
Speaker 3: movie making and storytelling.
Speaker 2: And the college sports element. Where do you get the
Speaker 2: confidence to say I have ideas that college apfter fleets
Speaker 2: need to hear well.
Speaker 3: For instance, you know I don't know how to go
Speaker 3: you know, run better. I don't know how to go
Speaker 3: better run a college offense. I don't know how to
Speaker 3: I don't go to Tom Herman or Mac Brown and
Speaker 3: say I got ideas for a play. Sure I should.
Speaker 3: I mean I had to share is things that I know.
Speaker 3: I've always been intrigued with the intangibles. You know, there's
Speaker 3: there's two, like, for instance, the Utah game where we
Speaker 3: where we waxed Utah last year. The two plays that
Speaker 3: I show the team that I want to talk to
Speaker 3: coaches about are one when KeAndre Coburn gets his helmet
Speaker 3: knocked off his head in the middle of the field
Speaker 3: and still runs after the guy with the ball and
Speaker 3: gets in on the tackle. And then as on the
Speaker 3: sideline where you can see his mouth after he's kicked
Speaker 3: out of the game. You have to take a playoff,
Speaker 3: right because you can't be on the field without you
Speaker 3: can't pursue a play without your helmet on. And you
Speaker 3: see his mouth going. I didn't know that was a
Speaker 3: beep and rule. I'm like, that is a great intangible.
Speaker 3: That mental capacity right there, that you were balling without
Speaker 3: a helmet is an intangible that can speak volumes across
Speaker 3: a board for a team. Another one is this Sam
Speaker 3: Allinger breaks out to the left, goes on like a
Speaker 3: thirty two yard run. We're well ahead, he's coming back
Speaker 3: on the field. The cornerback that finally got him out
Speaker 3: of bounds is up in his face. Three linemen ran
Speaker 3: the thirty two yards down the field and just build
Speaker 3: a wall up and from that cornerback and backed him
Speaker 3: off of their quarterback. And Sam Allinger didn't even not
Speaker 3: didn't even didn't even look at the cornerback, just ran
Speaker 3: back to the huddle. But his three linemen were down
Speaker 3: the field in that cornerback's face go no, no, no, you
Speaker 3: don't touch you don't talk any smack tar quarterback, we're
Speaker 3: rolling your ass right now. Those are two intangibles that
Speaker 3: don't have anything to do with the specific play, but
Speaker 3: they had to do with a major They majorly have
Speaker 3: to do with the mentality that can help you succeed
Speaker 3: on a football field.
Speaker 1: And by the way, there's a lot of parallel there
Speaker 1: between what you saw on that play and some of
Speaker 1: the passages in your book, your experiences with your father
Speaker 1: about getting into his good graces. Yeah, there were several
Speaker 1: interesting stories about that in the book. How you sort of,
Speaker 1: I guess, got on the good side if you want
Speaker 1: to say, for your.
Speaker 3: Fights with my father initiations, Yeah, you know my dad's
Speaker 3: You know, if I asked my dad, what was your
Speaker 3: your biggest asset as a football player when you were
Speaker 3: your best, he goes played to the whistleblows and sometimes
Speaker 3: a little bit further even longer. So I've had many
Speaker 3: things in my life where maybe I didn't have the
Speaker 3: equal ability as the person next to me I was
Speaker 3: competing with. But I got the job or succeeded because
Speaker 3: I out hustled that person. I got, I got back
Speaker 3: up again, I got. I got up from more failures
Speaker 3: than that person did, and that person finally went, I
Speaker 3: give man, I can't beat this guy. He just won't
Speaker 3: quit coming. And so that underdog mentality is something that
Speaker 3: I've taked and into my work throughout my life. You know,
Speaker 3: our family, we had big rights of passage, and some
Speaker 3: of them are physical. Quite a few of them were,
Speaker 3: and that was a rite of passage in my dad's
Speaker 3: mind of when you become a man. Part of it
Speaker 3: was to challenge him. If you got the kahonas to
Speaker 3: challenge me, he'd always say, boys, you know where to
Speaker 3: find me. Now that was a big challenge. My dad
Speaker 3: was a big man. You know, six four, two sixty
Speaker 3: five that those numbers don't didn't didn't bode well for actually.
Speaker 3: But if you went to him, which my brother did
Speaker 3: and I did it in some fashion a little bit
Speaker 3: later in life, it wasn't about you didn't ever get
Speaker 3: in there in the in the in the real fight.
Speaker 3: It was that if you actually meant the challenge, like
Speaker 3: come on, old man, let's do it. That's when he went, ah,
Speaker 3: there's my boy, that's what I was looking for. Then
Speaker 3: you were buddies with him, but you needed to come
Speaker 3: in and mean it and say I'm going my own way.
Speaker 3: I'm not taking any more. Here's what I'm going to do.
Speaker 3: And that's when he would That's when you got the
Speaker 3: bear hug in the tiers from him saying that's my boy.
Speaker 1: So I want to go back to the intangibles for
Speaker 1: a second, because this is also something that you talk
Speaker 1: about in the book. With regard to sports betting, you're
Speaker 1: not necessarily First off, you're not betting for the money.
Speaker 1: It's not about the money. It's about it's about saying
Speaker 1: I told you so right. That's what it's about.
Speaker 3: You knew it. It's about saying I knew it. It's
Speaker 3: about buying a ticket to the game that I'm not
Speaker 3: that interested in, so I'm going to lay fifty bucks
Speaker 3: on the on the on the on the pro game.
Speaker 3: It's it's about you know, when uh, I say, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm betting on whoever. I'm betting on Brett fav team
Speaker 3: Monday night because his dad passed away last Tuesday. And
Speaker 3: if he's going to actually play in this game, which
Speaker 3: he says he is those intended, he will be playing
Speaker 3: for more than just a game. He's going to be
Speaker 3: on another level. And he actually was you know what
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 1: I told you so right there you go.
Speaker 3: I knew it. It's an intangible you know, the the
Speaker 3: pick of just the straight spread is not that interesting
Speaker 3: to me. It's how is that team in practice who
Speaker 3: traveled across the country is going to be jet lagged?
Speaker 3: And I'm not always right. I'd say I'm fifty one
Speaker 3: percent right. And if you're fifty one percent right, you
Speaker 3: could actually make a bit of a living, do it.
Speaker 3: I thought, when i'm you know, it is when you're wrong,
Speaker 3: you're like, well, there must be a glitch in the system,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But when you're right, you're like,
Speaker 3: I knew I was on the pulse. And whether that's
Speaker 3: full of myself or not, I don't care. It's fun
Speaker 3: to go. I knew it. I knew it. I read
Speaker 3: the future.
Speaker 1: Well, so with all that being said, we're a college
Speaker 1: football show. Eighteen to twenty two year old athletes a
Speaker 1: crazy time in all of their lives, raging hormones, wild emotions,
Speaker 1: insane rivalries. I would think if intangibles are your thing
Speaker 1: as a better that college football might might be something
Speaker 1: you're interested in. Do you bet at all on college football?
Speaker 3: Not really? And and and I don't with with with
Speaker 3: my teams, kind of keep that out of it, you know,
Speaker 3: I I I don't want to. I've got a relationship
Speaker 3: with with players and coaches at the University of Texas.
Speaker 3: I I do have an inside eye. I want to
Speaker 3: keep that pure as I can with them. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: right now, what's this season going to end up being?
Speaker 3: I mean, what have we got? We got? Ohio? Big
Speaker 3: ten comes out last week, plays their first games. You're
Speaker 3: looking at these lopsided numbers when you're seeing teams play
Speaker 3: Texas two and two, playing Baylor one on one. Wait,
Speaker 3: what where were the other two games? Oh? Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think Wisconsin just canceled another game. Here, we're going to
Speaker 3: find out that this grand experiment is going to work
Speaker 3: here that we're in you know right now, the team,
Speaker 3: this is more of a mental game, this mental season,
Speaker 3: this season than any season it's an abbreviated season. Uh,
Speaker 3: the kids routines are not the same. The coaches have
Speaker 3: not had the same access or time has been with
Speaker 3: the teams. You know, I would think it's probably a
Speaker 3: good time to simplify some awesome game plans and say,
Speaker 3: you know, let your athletes take the full advantage of
Speaker 3: their athletic ability as you can, because the kids haven't
Speaker 3: had the time to go through the reps that they
Speaker 3: would have had time before, you know, and again the
Speaker 3: hard thing in a season, it's impossible to get those
Speaker 3: young men on a college football field to be absolutely
Speaker 3: in peak performance position and they're mentally and physically ten
Speaker 3: saturdays a year now on paper, you go, it's ten
Speaker 3: saturdays a year for three and a half hours. Can
Speaker 3: we everything go to having it?
Speaker 2: Won't?
Speaker 3: It doesn't happen. There's I remember, you know, coach mac
Speaker 3: brime used to say, you know, Texas when he was there, Oh,
Speaker 3: you know, we'll play good against Oklahoma or Nebraska in
Speaker 3: your background, which there's a story of when we beat
Speaker 3: Nebraska in ninety nine in the in the book. But
Speaker 3: he would say, you know, at that time, Rice wasn't
Speaker 3: very good, and he was like, but we're gonna need
Speaker 3: you to pump up the team for the Rice game
Speaker 3: because I have a tendency to play just good enough
Speaker 3: and maybe make it closer than it should have been,
Speaker 3: you know. And that's one of Texas has challenged right now,
Speaker 3: is it has been. It's not only is being good
Speaker 3: enough to roll the teams you should roll and put
Speaker 3: put put put, with the proverbial foot down on the
Speaker 3: throat when it's time. And because we played some of
Speaker 3: the big games good. Our best game we probably played
Speaker 3: lest She was against LSU. We lost, but we played
Speaker 3: good in those in those big games. It's about finding
Speaker 3: a consistency across the board for us right now, of
Speaker 3: going out there and playing for a par excellence that
Speaker 3: we ourselves hold ourselves accountable to, not what anyone else thinks.
Speaker 1: Now with you, what's your relationship with the age old
Speaker 1: question now of is Texas back? Is it annoying to
Speaker 1: hear that? I'm sure you've heard it by now. Is
Speaker 1: it annoying to hear that?
Speaker 2: Is it something.
Speaker 1: That that you hear and you sort of chuckle about it?
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? What does Texas back
Speaker 1: even really mean to a Texas slum and a long
Speaker 1: time Texas fan.
Speaker 3: Well, Texas back means earnestly competing for national championships period.
Speaker 3: That's the expectation. Players understand that when they come to
Speaker 3: Texas that needs to be that par excellence sort of
Speaker 3: measure above the above the head and in the mind
Speaker 3: of anybody at the University of Texas playing any sport,
Speaker 3: we are you know, we have a tradition, we're right
Speaker 3: there in the hobbit of incredible athletes we have. No
Speaker 3: one has better facilities, no one has a better opportunity
Speaker 3: to be great, be any better than we do here
Speaker 3: at the University of Texas. So are we back? No,
Speaker 3: we're not back. And I believe when we quit even
Speaker 3: fighting to say, oh uh, we got to get back
Speaker 3: because the world thinks we should be back, and we're
Speaker 3: just like f it, we're back. We're gonna go just
Speaker 3: go do the work and we're gonna we're gonna handle it.
Speaker 3: I think you know the place like texts you're gonna have,
Speaker 3: you're gonna be scrutinized at a different level than anywhere else. Well,
Speaker 3: that's part of the package. So in that way, these
Speaker 3: young men have to grow up even faster in today's
Speaker 3: world of social media, how do you keep from playing
Speaker 3: in the dan third person? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: When when we start playing as a team in the
Speaker 3: first person as the subject, forget the forget the jumbo trump,
Speaker 3: forget what anyone's saying about me Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wendy
Speaker 3: leading Upstay, we first start forgetting about that and playing
Speaker 3: for our ourselves as a team and quit worrying about
Speaker 3: what the rest of the world thing that's will actually
Speaker 3: be on our way to truly being back.
Speaker 2: Does Texas have to worry about the Texas machine becoming
Speaker 2: too big? Because as you know, I mean it's similar
Speaker 2: to a movie set, and that there are so many
Speaker 2: people that go into a major football program. What is
Speaker 2: and I don't mean this in a good nor a
Speaker 2: bad way, What does that machine look like behind the scenes?
Speaker 2: What does it look What does it mean to have
Speaker 2: to you know, there are so many voices. There are boosters,
Speaker 2: there are athletic directors, there there are so many voices
Speaker 2: that have opinions about what Texas Football should be doing.
Speaker 2: What does it take to wrangle that machine from what
Speaker 2: you've seen?
Speaker 3: Wins? That's a w that's not a three that's a w. Wins.
Speaker 3: Winning fixes most all of it. And that's not just
Speaker 3: at the University of Texas, but it's definitely at the
Speaker 3: University of Texas. You know, Tom Harmon, coach, came in
Speaker 3: there and talked about the football team. His main word,
Speaker 3: which is a good one, is alignment. We've got to
Speaker 3: get everyone's expectations aligned and understand what it takes to
Speaker 3: play there, and then you go about the course and
Speaker 3: you stick to it. It's something you can believe in
Speaker 3: and that you're going to take even into next satitay,
Speaker 3: even after maybe a loss. Getting everyone aligned again, the
Speaker 3: expectations are higher, as high and higher than anywhere else
Speaker 3: in any other university in the nation. Good Can you
Speaker 3: look at that as not pressure? Here let me give
Speaker 3: you an example. I did a film called Killers Show.
Speaker 3: The director William Freagan did something that I've never heard
Speaker 3: before and it was awesome. But this is what the
Speaker 3: mentality needs to be at Texas. Right here, he goes, Okay,
Speaker 3: everyone new rule this entire shoot. It's a day one
Speaker 3: er shooting. He goes, everybody gets one take. Now you
Speaker 3: can go two ways with that. You can go, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: what am I gonna do? It, or you can go, well,
Speaker 3: f it, let's rock and roll, don't hold anything back.
Speaker 3: You got one take, it's live, there's no take too,
Speaker 3: there's no audition, let's go. I was happy to engage
Speaker 3: in that second version where where I found it freeing.
Speaker 3: I found freedom in it instead of getting tight with
Speaker 3: the pressure. We'll get some consistency as as we're as
Speaker 3: we're as we're getting into now that will hopefully deem
Speaker 3: improve itself to be successful in the long run. This
Speaker 3: is a tricky, wild year. This was Tom Irman's fourth year.
Speaker 3: These are his guys. This is the year I had
Speaker 3: penciled in that I thought we would really compete for
Speaker 3: the national championship. It doesn't look like that's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: At our record at three and two, I feel like
Speaker 3: we'll go in and play Oklahoma State good because that's
Speaker 3: that's that's a big game. It's a conference game. The
Speaker 3: other thing you got to remember, Texas is take pride
Speaker 3: and honor in the fact that you are eleven other
Speaker 3: team's favorite and biggest rival and the next one I
Speaker 3: think it's four at Notre Dame and we're like, we
Speaker 3: have eleven. Look at that with honor and look at
Speaker 3: that with responsibility, account of building and go good. I'd
Speaker 3: have it no other way. You know. It's like, like
Speaker 3: I said, Oklahoma, they are indirectly complimenting us. Every time
Speaker 3: they do this with their horns. It's like they've grabbed
Speaker 3: our sign and all I do is turn upside down.
Speaker 3: It's like, thank you, you have your own sign. In
Speaker 3: the meantime, keep doing that, because a compliment it means
Speaker 3: your identity goes through us.
Speaker 2: One of the things that you've talked about, even as
Speaker 2: it relates to your acting career, is over preparing, just
Speaker 2: knowing everything about a role. And in your current role
Speaker 2: as Minister of Culture, you're in the weeds. You're with players,
Speaker 2: you're with coaches. Coaches travel and see how other programs operate.
Speaker 2: Have you been to Ohio State, Alabama, Florida, Oregon? Have
Speaker 2: you been to those places to familiarize yourself with what
Speaker 2: major college football looks like.
Speaker 3: I've been to pro sports, have been international sports, and
Speaker 3: I've gone around the world and seeing how different organizations,
Speaker 3: businesses and sports and institutions handle themselves. One of the
Speaker 3: things that you have to do, and this goes back
Speaker 3: to alignment, you have to have clear messaging. I have
Speaker 3: been in Texas at times in along the past where
Speaker 3: the messages were beautiful, but there are too many of them.
Speaker 3: You got to have a baseline. You got to have
Speaker 3: a bloodline message, a commitment to excellent or a play
Speaker 3: like a champion, or what is the baseline theme that
Speaker 3: bleeds through twenty four to seven from practice to the
Speaker 3: locker rooms to game day and reverberates throughout the entire stadium.
Speaker 3: What is the heartbeat that you can go this is
Speaker 3: who we are, this is what we rely on. Now,
Speaker 3: you can have a different motto each week to get
Speaker 3: people up with a new aspirational thought. You can have
Speaker 3: a motto each season that you can amend a little bit,
Speaker 3: but the heartbeat has to stay and continue to be
Speaker 3: consistent throughout. And the greatest teams have that and rely
Speaker 3: on that. And it is the thing that takes you
Speaker 3: through the losses that you will have, takes you through
Speaker 3: the battles because it's the theme that takes you on
Speaker 3: to go win the war at the end of the battle.
Speaker 2: Is that cohesion close?
Speaker 3: Is it there?
Speaker 2: What sense do you get from seeing successful organizations to
Speaker 2: where Texas is in late October?
Speaker 3: Well, it's hard to say right now at three and
Speaker 3: two that is there because it wouldn't be a parent
Speaker 3: that it is. It wouldn't be a parent that it
Speaker 3: is there because at the end of the day, we
Speaker 3: can talk about it all we want. And myself being
Speaker 3: a huge University of Texas Longhorn Van and people that
Speaker 3: don't like the University of Texas, our biggest robberies would say,
Speaker 3: your record tells you who you are. That's the old
Speaker 3: Bill par Sales thing. Your record tells you where you are.
Speaker 3: So other than that, it's it's talk. And when talk
Speaker 3: leads to actual belief. I want to go to another
Speaker 3: thing you mentioned here, though, sure as to do with
Speaker 3: my work in preparation. If you look at schools that
Speaker 3: get a new defensive coordinator a new offensive coordinator that
Speaker 3: first year, that team on that cell of the ball
Speaker 3: is probably not going to be that good because you're
Speaker 3: going to see them on the field thinking you're going
Speaker 3: to see him trying to measure it. And if a
Speaker 3: player thinks while they're on the field, they're usually a
Speaker 3: half step late. Especially on defense, you're usually a half
Speaker 3: step late if you think, oh, this is the transition
Speaker 3: from the linebacker to me is the safety. If you
Speaker 3: prepare long enough and you go through the reps and
Speaker 3: it gets out of your mind and into your loins
Speaker 3: and instinct and gut, then you're reacting. Then the great
Speaker 3: athlete can react within the structure of what they've learned.
Speaker 3: But you don't want a great athlete or me. My job,
Speaker 3: what I do is an acro. I don't want to be.
Speaker 3: I'm not. I do all the preparation. My hard work
Speaker 3: is preseason pre production. When I go to set and
Speaker 3: it's game time, one take or twenty takes, whatever it's
Speaker 3: I'm playing, I'm enjoying the playfulness of it. I come
Speaker 3: in loaded, man, I got four versions of the truth
Speaker 3: that I'm going to give you, and you can throw
Speaker 3: anything at me. I'll call an audible in sync. Don't
Speaker 3: even yell cut, Let's go throw it at me. I
Speaker 3: love that's the you know. I want to be off
Speaker 3: balanced and find find my way to getting balanced in
Speaker 3: a scene. That's the same thing with an athlete. You
Speaker 3: don't want athletes out there overthinking stuff. At the same time,
Speaker 3: you got a plan, and that's what the pre season
Speaker 3: is about, or before the season. You want to have
Speaker 3: enough reps to follow through that plan by where by
Speaker 3: the time you were playing on Saturdays, you do not
Speaker 3: even think about it. It's instinctly there.
Speaker 1: I want to go back to that theme of preparation
Speaker 1: though having a plan. There's one story in particular where
Speaker 1: you talk about your early acting career, how you figured
Speaker 1: out the character and there was a four page monologue
Speaker 1: that you didn't know it was a four page monologue,
Speaker 1: or that it was in Spanish, but you were prepared,
Speaker 1: you were loaded for bear to go into this scene.
Speaker 1: And it was one of those moments early on where
Speaker 1: you were a little too cavalier. I got the biggest
Speaker 1: kick out of that story.
Speaker 3: I Yeah, it's one of there's quite a few stories
Speaker 3: in here where I step in s hi T and
Speaker 3: this is one of them. Yeah. I get this bright
Speaker 3: idea that I don't need to study the script. I
Speaker 3: don't need to break down the scene. If I know
Speaker 3: my man and I know the circumstance, I'll just go there,
Speaker 3: press record on the camera, let the camera roll, and
Speaker 3: I'll be my man and do and say what he
Speaker 3: would do. Well, that's a great idea until right before
Speaker 3: the take you look at the script, which I did
Speaker 3: notice a four page monologue in Spanish, and I remember
Speaker 3: the sheer embarrassment and the beat of sweat that came
Speaker 3: up on the back of my head and dripped down.
Speaker 4: My neck, and I was like, oh yeah, And I
Speaker 4: said to no one in particular, give me twelve minutes, please,
Speaker 4: thinking that would be not enough time to inconvenience the crew,
Speaker 4: but also enough time to learn a four page monologue
Speaker 4: in Spanish, because.
Speaker 3: Hey, I took Spanish in my one semester in eleventh grade.
Speaker 1: That's all you need.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, all you need negatory. So it was not
Speaker 3: enough to learn that. And I remember I went and
Speaker 3: at the scene. I didn't let anyone on know, didn't
Speaker 3: let anyone know that I wasn't prepared. I think it
Speaker 3: was probably obvious, but from that day on I said, no,
Speaker 3: you have to work, You have to prepare, You have
Speaker 3: to form the structure to then have the freedom to
Speaker 3: play and do job well. Preparation has been incredibly important
Speaker 3: for me since that date. And I learned a lesson
Speaker 3: the hard way because I had a bright idea that
Speaker 3: was not a prudent one.
Speaker 1: So hold on, what did you do though? Were you
Speaker 1: able to learn some bulk of it in Spanish. How
Speaker 1: did you.
Speaker 3: Embarrassed to watch it? Remember what I did? I don't
Speaker 3: remember what I did. I'm sure it was some half
Speaker 3: as horrible version of your poor Kolo valgo. I'm sure
Speaker 3: it didn't tell like I newstandished really well?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I guess to that point. You know, back
Speaker 1: to the book for a second. You do describe the
Speaker 1: process that you seemingly follow to figure out your characters
Speaker 1: before that pre production, that pregame stage of creating any
Speaker 1: kind of motion picture. The first step seemingly is you
Speaker 1: get the script. Once you get the script, you kind
Speaker 1: of craft the persona around your character, and then at
Speaker 1: some point you step into the character. And at that point,
Speaker 1: like I don't want to say, the script goes out
Speaker 1: the window. Obviously it does not. But at that point
Speaker 1: when you kind of merge with the character, that's when
Speaker 1: you take some of those creative liberties that really make.
Speaker 3: You absolutely as good as you are all informed by
Speaker 3: starting with what the script gave me. So you start
Speaker 3: with what is on the page first? What do you
Speaker 3: need to learn? Do that before you go towards the
Speaker 3: imagination or think about improvising or calling audibles. Know the
Speaker 3: playbooks so well that you're confident to call the audible
Speaker 3: when you're in the game. I call it owning my men.
Speaker 3: The writer may write it, the director may be directing it,
Speaker 3: but I need to get to a point where I
Speaker 3: own that character. I'm the boss of that character. And
Speaker 3: a good director wants his actors to go take ownership.
Speaker 3: You're the bloodline, take it and run. Mac Brown wants
Speaker 3: Vince Young to come over to the sideline and go
Speaker 3: give me the bo I got this. We're you know,
Speaker 3: we're yeah, I know that's the play. But I'm calling
Speaker 3: an audible the line because I see something. You want a
Speaker 3: player to take that ownership. But if it's based off
Speaker 3: of what is the general plan, what's the structure, if
Speaker 3: it's within a good improviser only improvise all the things
Speaker 3: I'll improvise or make up when I'm doing it well,
Speaker 3: is based off of the structure, in the context of
Speaker 3: the plan on the page and who the man is
Speaker 3: on the page. I'm not just making stuff up. It's
Speaker 3: all coming out of the inventory of the study and
Speaker 3: that I've already done, and not just so you can
Speaker 3: see people improvise and scenes and it may seem like, oh,
Speaker 3: that was really clever and good. But sometimes you go,
Speaker 3: but that really isn't what the character would do. Oh,
Speaker 3: that was a kind of a one off scene. You
Speaker 3: see in comedies a lot. There are some great improvisers.
Speaker 3: Some of them do it really well, and they improvise
Speaker 3: within the context of who their character is and the
Speaker 3: relationship with whoever they're in the scene with. Sometimes you'll
Speaker 3: see comedians go off and improvise a scene. You're like, oh,
Speaker 3: they've had that skit written and they were just looking
Speaker 3: for a place to put it in a movie, and
Speaker 3: they just ripped it off and did it. And while
Speaker 3: it may be funny in the moment, you may go
Speaker 3: after the movie it really wasn't true to the guy
Speaker 3: or true to the relationship that the person had in
Speaker 3: the movie. So it needs to be with all improvisation,
Speaker 3: all audibles need to be within the context of the
Speaker 3: original plan.
Speaker 1: So with that said being so, this is a show
Speaker 1: that airs on a Friday, and on Fridays here on
Speaker 1: the Cliverbal we do a weird space themed college football show.
Speaker 1: You were in a movie called Interstellar where you played
Speaker 1: astronautical traveler. How on God's Green Earth did you plan
Speaker 1: for your role as a galactic traveler, because there aren't
Speaker 1: a whole lot of real world reference points that you
Speaker 1: can go off there.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, I mean one. I went to Chris Nolan,
Speaker 3: a lot who he creates these conceptual worlds. So I
Speaker 3: went to him like and I said, like, what's give
Speaker 3: me the rules here? How does time move here? Where
Speaker 3: are we what's gravity like, etcetera. I'm the lead astronaut.
Speaker 3: I need to know this for the survival and the
Speaker 3: success of our mission. He didn't always have the answers.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you go, that's a good question, I'm not quite
Speaker 3: sure what the rules are. And he'd come back to
Speaker 3: me though a week later and go, you know, I
Speaker 3: thought about what you asked me, and we go over
Speaker 3: it and kind of hash it out to where I
Speaker 3: could have some sound information understand the rules of engagement
Speaker 3: with the world he created. You know. That was different
Speaker 3: than say, like my role in Contact, where I played
Speaker 3: a believer in the world of science, and coming away
Speaker 3: from that movie, it was like, oh, you know what,
Speaker 3: as a believer, God's back yards bigger than I thought
Speaker 3: it was, And it opened my eyes to think of
Speaker 3: more places than just earths as the backyard that we're
Speaker 3: all living in Interstellar was more, you know, in some
Speaker 3: ways more personal in that the questions like, what would
Speaker 3: you do if you if you went and time ran
Speaker 3: a different at a different pace and your your kids
Speaker 3: had grown up and you missed their childhood because you're
Speaker 3: in a different time lapse and time ran at the universe?
Speaker 3: Is that worth sacrificing? And what are what are the
Speaker 3: consequences of that? So other than other than that, I
Speaker 3: was able to get very personal with Cooper and then
Speaker 3: try to just understand what the hell is the rules
Speaker 3: in this Tesseract? What does it mean? What does it
Speaker 3: mean when I were on Saturn here? How does time
Speaker 3: move differently? So I can understand what the decisions are
Speaker 3: going to cost me as the character.
Speaker 2: One of the things we hate, and this does tie back,
Speaker 2: I trust me. One of the things we hate as
Speaker 2: college football fans is watching coaches get comfortable, watching coaches
Speaker 2: stay stubborn, watching coaches do what sort of they believe
Speaker 2: to be. Well, this is what people expect of me.
Speaker 2: It was fascinating to hear you've talked about romantic comedies
Speaker 2: and how you felt pigeonholed. You felt that this is
Speaker 2: how you were going to be viewed. This is how
Speaker 2: you felt. Everybody said, well, this is what he does,
Speaker 2: and you just stopped doing those and you never would
Speaker 2: have ended up in a movie like Interstellar. You never
Speaker 2: would have ended up in Dallas Buyer's Club, any of
Speaker 2: these movies that are incredibly well regarded.
Speaker 3: What did did?
Speaker 2: Was that a difficult thing because of obviously financial ramifications,
Speaker 2: and you had made it, you were a movie star.
Speaker 2: What did it take for you to fully sprint out
Speaker 2: of your comfort Zoneah?
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, hell yeah, it was difficult. One
Speaker 3: of the most difficult decisions I've ever made my life.
Speaker 3: I was at the time of my career where I
Speaker 3: was the go to guy for rom Coms and they
Speaker 3: paid me handsomely and I was shirtless on the beach.
Speaker 3: You damn right. Those rom Coms paid the rent of
Speaker 3: the houses on the beaches where I ran shirtless. Guilty, Yes, sir,
Speaker 3: that was me choice. So you know, it's also not
Speaker 3: fair to say, oh, that was you, But now the
Speaker 3: real you comes up. No, that was me as well,
Speaker 3: And what I've been doing is also me. But the
Speaker 3: things that I've been doing over the last twelve years,
Speaker 3: these dramas you bring up those are not getting offered
Speaker 3: me at that time. So while I was fully happy
Speaker 3: and straight faced about the life I was living in
Speaker 3: rom Comms and loved my job and stuff, they had
Speaker 3: pigeonholed me to where that's the only thing I was
Speaker 3: getting offered. So I decided, if I can't do what
Speaker 3: I want to do, I'm going to stop doing what
Speaker 3: I've been doing. And I talked about this in the
Speaker 3: book the process of elimination. If we can't do what
Speaker 3: we want to do or we don't know what we
Speaker 3: want to do or who we are, eliminate the things
Speaker 3: we're not, and by process of elimination, we'll end up
Speaker 3: with the things that feed us and tell us who
Speaker 3: we are in front of us. Well, I checked my
Speaker 3: money manager. I said, I'm going to stop doing rom Comms.
Speaker 3: I don't know how long I'll go with that work.
Speaker 3: Have a saved money? He said, you saved your money, Well,
Speaker 3: you can afford it. I checked with my wife, I
Speaker 3: checked my agent. I shed many a tear on my
Speaker 3: wife's shoulder. Going, I may not work. I don't know
Speaker 3: for how long. I don't know how long I'll be
Speaker 3: in a trout. Well, it was a twenty month trout,
Speaker 3: no work, nothing came in. I was forgotten by Hollywood.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I wasn't in the theater
Speaker 3: or in your living room in a rom com. You
Speaker 3: didn't see me on the beach shirtless anymore. So after
Speaker 3: twenty months of no work, I became a new, fresh novel,
Speaker 3: good idea for those dramatic roles that I was looking for,
Speaker 3: and boy, as soon as it came my way, I
Speaker 3: ferociously attacked him. So I unbranded to rebrand. You know,
Speaker 3: sometimes we don't not sure what the new game plan is.
Speaker 3: Stop doing the old one and press reset, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. Remove yourself from from old habits and
Speaker 3: then you will, hopefully, you know, the ones that the
Speaker 3: new habits you want to you want to partake in,
Speaker 3: will reveal themselves. And sometimes that's by just being away
Speaker 3: and out of the picture. And that's what it was
Speaker 3: for me at that time.
Speaker 2: And now you're away and in Austin. You're not in Malibu,
Speaker 2: you're not in la you're not in Hollywood. You're in Austin.
Speaker 2: And to bring it full circle, because we talked about
Speaker 2: you as a hypothetical recruit, we talked about ut I'm
Speaker 2: not going to say this in the context of a recruit.
Speaker 2: But let's say I. Let's say I Dan Rubinstein am
Speaker 2: coming to Austin for UT, Oklahoma State, UT, TCU, whatever.
Speaker 2: If you are mapping out the perfect Austin college football weekend,
Speaker 2: what is your itinerary? What are we doing?
Speaker 3: What are we eating?
Speaker 2: Where we hiking?
Speaker 3: Well, the perfect weekend is Look, I've got, you know,
Speaker 3: a box there where my family goes. I prefer the sidelines.
Speaker 3: I like to see that eye level and see those
Speaker 3: young men, look them in the eye, and be down
Speaker 3: there where I can break and break a sweat as
Speaker 3: well with them. The tailgate. We're gonna gonna matter what
Speaker 3: time the game starts Saturday, hopefully it's later afternoon, so
Speaker 3: we can go ahead and revel in on Friday night
Speaker 3: and get get loosened up. Where we're going tomorrow's game.
Speaker 3: What are we doing for? Well, we're me. We're gonna
Speaker 3: probably hang at my house and I'm gonna be cooking
Speaker 3: inch and five eight ribbis rub right there, and there's
Speaker 3: gonna be some music plaanning. We're gonna be getting ready.
Speaker 3: We're gonna enjoy the night and talk about things. And
Speaker 3: then tomorrow morning it's game time early at my house.
Speaker 3: We're getting in the zone pretty early and to get
Speaker 3: focused and hopefully that our focus is reverberating all the
Speaker 3: way through the city and that the whole city's focus
Speaker 3: is reverberating to the team to where today when we
Speaker 3: go to the game, this is the place to be
Speaker 3: on the planet, and we got to be there and
Speaker 3: we are you know, A and M's got the name
Speaker 3: twelfth man, but we have how can we be the
Speaker 3: twelfth Man? I've seen crowds actually help will teams. I've
Speaker 3: seen we talked earlier about the mind of the eighteen
Speaker 3: to twenty two year old sometimes the fatigue keeps it
Speaker 3: from being a self starter in that fourth quarter to
Speaker 3: find to dig in and find that actually a lot
Speaker 3: of times a crowd can help that. I'm amazed at
Speaker 3: how much players let you know how much a crowd
Speaker 3: has helped them out at certain times. So we get there.
Speaker 3: The only game in town, the only game in the
Speaker 3: planet is right there. The only color in our stidium
Speaker 3: is going to be burnt orange. If we get out
Speaker 3: of the early. We've got a few good places to
Speaker 3: go to tailgate for sure, to get a good get
Speaker 3: some meal, on us, and before we get to the game,
Speaker 3: you probably be in the box. I may go down.
Speaker 3: I'll kiss everybody good bye. I'm going down on the sideline.
Speaker 3: We'll see you after the game, hopefully it's a victory.
Speaker 3: Well after we see is of Texas and we'll move
Speaker 3: on and victory. We'll now go continue to celebrate our
Speaker 3: victory afterwards.
Speaker 2: Where's that is that? Your house?
Speaker 1: Is?
Speaker 2: That is that town?
Speaker 3: After that, after a long day of football combined with
Speaker 3: the night before, I usually go for something a little
Speaker 3: a little lighter. There's a place we'll go by Uchi
Speaker 3: or Uchi Coo, and we're gonna have a nice, nice
Speaker 3: sushi sushi dinner. Because we loaded up on our heavy
Speaker 3: duty carbs all day long and last night as well,
Speaker 3: so we'll go have a sushi dinner. Then if we've
Speaker 3: got a good gig in town, live music, we're gonna
Speaker 3: go check that out. And guess what, I've got a driver.
Speaker 3: He's gonna take us in a bus. Everyone drink up.
Speaker 3: You don't have to drive. We're gonna go do that
Speaker 3: and get everyone back. And then Sunday we'll ease in
Speaker 3: and easy to the today, sleep in. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 3: We'll actually slip by the eleven o'clock church service at
Speaker 3: our church, which is just a mile down the road.
Speaker 3: Great go atone for our sins if we got them,
Speaker 3: we be sure we did, and get ready for the
Speaker 3: week and get ready to do it all over again.
Speaker 2: I'll send you my confirmation number. The breakfast tacos are
Speaker 2: on me. I'm ready heard all right again.
Speaker 1: His name is Matthew McConaughey. His memoir Green Lights. It
Speaker 1: is available now. We're going to link it up in
Speaker 1: our show notes. Go out buy it. He's holding it up.
Speaker 1: It's a great read. Like I said, I practically read it, Matthew,
Speaker 1: and it's a really really good.
Speaker 2: Fantastic well done.
Speaker 1: This has been a true pleasure. We wish you nothing
Speaker 1: but the best with the book and with all your endeavors,
Speaker 1: and stop by any time you want.
Speaker 3: I dig it. Appreciate it, man.
Speaker 1: Take care. Okay, Daniel, there you go.
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm inspired, Ty, I've been reading the book. Who
Speaker 2: It's great.
Speaker 1: That is a bucket list interview for us. I am
Speaker 1: super pumped that we were finally able to pull that off.
Speaker 1: We thank mister McConaughey for being so gracious with this
Speaker 1: time and what again, urge everybody to go on out
Speaker 1: there and check out Green Lights. The book we got
Speaker 1: the link in the show notes really a collection of
Speaker 1: deeply personal stories about Matthew's life, how he got to
Speaker 1: where he is today, and just a an eclectic mix
Speaker 1: of life experiences that I think you can certainly find inspiration.
Speaker 2: While I'm still opted out of emotionally investing myself into
Speaker 2: Texas football, you picked a really.
Speaker 1: Weird time to opt out, knowing that this interview is
Speaker 1: on the horizon.
Speaker 2: I'm emotionally, I'm more emotionally invested than I ever was
Speaker 2: in Matthew McConaughey's career. And like, true, So that's what
Speaker 2: I That's where I'm taking that investment. And also I
Speaker 2: will celebrate like it's the birth of my own child
Speaker 2: if Texas were not only to win a national championship,
Speaker 2: but we get you remember what j R. Smith did
Speaker 2: after Cleveland won finally the lebron Remember he goes shirtless
Speaker 2: in a parade. Yeah, feels like that's on the horizon.
Speaker 2: If Texas is able to mount that full come back,
Speaker 2: Matthew McConaughey is going to be a joy in However,
Speaker 2: he celebrates.
Speaker 1: However, he celebrates. I think that's that's a parent in
Speaker 1: our interview this evening.
Speaker 2: So have you seen Magic Mike?
Speaker 3: By the way, it's.
Speaker 1: A good movie.
Speaker 2: Magic Mike is really good. It's a good movie, really
Speaker 2: good movie.
Speaker 1: Watch it with my mom, which was a little that
Speaker 1: was different, that was not not not.
Speaker 2: There's a pretty early yeah with Olivia Munn Is that
Speaker 2: who it was?
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 1: It was definitely not the movie watching experience that I
Speaker 1: was looking to get, but it was a good I
Speaker 1: like the movie, movie is really good.
Speaker 2: I just I would like to know what Mama H's
Speaker 2: reaction was in watching that movie. Obviously you cannot tell
Speaker 2: me because it's so specific, but what her reaction was
Speaker 2: when McConaughey gets on stage near the beginning of the
Speaker 2: movie and those leather chaps tie and says the las says,
Speaker 2: there's no touch in but I see a la la
Speaker 2: breakers out there. I'd like to see how Mama H
Speaker 2: reacted it.
Speaker 1: It was a different experience for me.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, yeah, okay, I'm just I'm just making sure
Speaker 2: I I couldn't be happier with how I was from
Speaker 2: McConaughey on the show. That was fantastic.
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Speaker 2: Can I ask you a question? This is just a
Speaker 2: guess from you. I wanted to asked McConaughey this, but
Speaker 2: we sort of ran out of time. He was already
Speaker 2: so generous with this time. He gave us about forty
Speaker 2: five minutes. Right, Yeah, what are the chances to you,
Speaker 2: because McConaughey has a died in the wool burnt Orange
Speaker 2: Texas diehard. What are the odds to you that he
Speaker 2: has a burner account on I looked it up right now,
Speaker 2: Horns twenty four to seven. Now obviously get all of
Speaker 2: the recruiting scoop he wants. He's friends and works alongside.
Speaker 2: You know, he's in the Athletic Department building with Tom
Speaker 2: Herman and Chrystal Conte, and he can text any of
Speaker 2: the players. He can text any of the status when.
Speaker 2: I'm sure he knew about the quinn Ewers thing days ago.
Speaker 1: But he just because he's a movie star doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that he's not on message boards.
Speaker 2: It's got to monitor the vibe.
Speaker 3: It's gotta be fifty to fifty. I would a fifty.
Speaker 2: I would say there's a seventy two percent chance he
Speaker 2: has a burner on either Horns two four seven or
Speaker 2: some deeply secret Texas recruiting message board. I have to
Speaker 2: if next time Robert Gates with A and M. I
Speaker 2: remember the Dennis Franchione newsletter. There was definitely a Secretary
Speaker 2: of Defense who had to out himself or was outed
Speaker 2: for a Texas A and m message board membership. I
Speaker 2: remember there was a potential judge a couple of years ago,
Speaker 2: a nominated judge who did not believe secure the nomination,
Speaker 2: and he was outed for his Alabama message board exploits.
Speaker 2: But I think seventy two percent seventy two plus percent.
Speaker 2: Mcconaey has a paywall recruiting burner account.
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