WEBVTT - UltraMegaStar Friday Orbit: An Interview with Matthew McConaughey

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<v Speaker 1>Three two one zero all engine running liftoff. We have

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<v Speaker 1>a liftof Welcome back to the solid verbal Friday Orbit Show.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is ty Hildebrandt, joining me as always over

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<v Speaker 1>there in Chicago, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, Sir, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I am ready for an intergalactic ride of a lifetime

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<v Speaker 2>on this UFO episode, Tye, That's how I am. We

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<v Speaker 2>have decided on the U portions. It's the UFO show.

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<v Speaker 2>We do it every Friday. We're a college football show.

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<v Speaker 1>But we take on a weird kind of space quasi

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<v Speaker 1>theme on these Friday episodes. Ultramegastar Friday Orbit is what

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<v Speaker 1>we're I think going with today.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, somehow an e been more mega, more ultrastar than

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<v Speaker 2>Eastern PA's Ty hilden brand is appearing. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>were just recognized in a Wegmans. It's true, fair, it

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<v Speaker 2>is true. But we have somehow booked a star bigger

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<v Speaker 2>than you. We've been trying to do this forever and

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<v Speaker 2>the stars aligned tie space term and we are as

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<v Speaker 2>you know because you've seen the episode title. We are

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly thrilled and honored to welcome in angels in the

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<v Speaker 2>outfield's own Matthew McConaughey.

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<v Speaker 1>Angels in the Outfield, Dallas Buyers wrote, credit Magic, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>A Time to Kill Interstellar. The list goes on and on.

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<v Speaker 1>Matthew McConaughey has been in a bunch of cool movies

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<v Speaker 1>and he's obviously the Minister of Culture down there at

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<v Speaker 1>the University of Texas. Huge Longhorns fan. We are so

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<v Speaker 1>very thrilled to have him on the program. Been trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do so for gosh. I went back years look

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<v Speaker 1>through my email trying to get him on. So finally

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<v Speaker 1>worked out. As he said, the stars lined, he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be on a little bit. We've got a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of cool stuff to talk about with him, including his

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<v Speaker 1>new memoir, which we'll link up in the show notes

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<v Speaker 1>called green Lights. I did have the good fortune to

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<v Speaker 1>read it. It's really good, really an.

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<v Speaker 2>Of crazy stories, worth a read, and we're crazy excited

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<v Speaker 2>to have him on.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we go any further, we also want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about what we are doing on Halloween. Dan, give me

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<v Speaker 1>a spooky laugh. If you've got one of those, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I might have been a little Santa. I applied. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a little bit of Santa at the end it's okay. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing what we're calling the Solid Verbal live scream

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<v Speaker 1>at seven pm Eastern on Halloween Saturday night, shortly before

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<v Speaker 1>the Penn State Ohio State game. Will be doing it

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<v Speaker 1>for our Patreon subscribers. Will be on Discord answering questions

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<v Speaker 1>as we're doing our live stream. We're obviously going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about whatever transpires during the day games, also viewing

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<v Speaker 1>the night games, the most notable, which is of course

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio State Penn State. We are working on maybe trying

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<v Speaker 1>to bring some special friends in as part of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know if we'll be able to make that happen

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<v Speaker 1>or not, but there's potential.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we're bringing McConaughey to the fold. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>how much can we do it on Saturday night? But

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know. But just to the verballers out there,

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<v Speaker 2>I hear you.

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<v Speaker 1>This is for the five dollars a month here to

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<v Speaker 1>the lowest here. If you go on out to verballers

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<v Speaker 1>dot com, if you become a certified five dollars per

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<v Speaker 1>month verballer.

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<v Speaker 2>Or a premium or a premium tie, it's not only certified, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's any verballer for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>You can get access to the Halloween live scream, and

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<v Speaker 1>you get access to any future live streams that we

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<v Speaker 1>do in the future, depending on how this goes.

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<v Speaker 2>I like anchoring these two holidays because we've got a

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<v Speaker 2>great full calendar year of holidays to do these, but

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<v Speaker 2>especially during the football season tie. It allows us to

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<v Speaker 2>dress up, It allows us to have a theme about

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<v Speaker 2>about the live I mean, this one is a live scream,

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<v Speaker 2>but the streams in general. I couldn't be more excited.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason I'm excited is because the people who

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<v Speaker 2>have signed up on Patreon these certified and premium verballers

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<v Speaker 2>and potentially a benefactor of Verballer. If everything works out,

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<v Speaker 2>we are going to be bringing emotion that we don't

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<v Speaker 2>normally bring on Sunday mornings when we record the recap

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<v Speaker 2>because we don't have time to put things in perspective.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just going raw off of what we've seen and

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<v Speaker 2>what we want to see. So what we've seen during

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<v Speaker 2>the day what we want to see at night, and

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<v Speaker 2>we are incredibly excited to do it with what I

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<v Speaker 2>would consider to be the best college football fans in

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<v Speaker 2>the world are our Patreon subscribers. It's not unfair to

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<v Speaker 2>say so please consider joining us verballers dot com. We

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of excitement in going into this live

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<v Speaker 2>scream on Saturday night at seven pm Eastern.

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<v Speaker 1>I am drinking out of my soliverable plank glass at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment. Are you in preparation for the bruine to

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<v Speaker 1>do after?

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<v Speaker 2>Committed to the brand?

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<v Speaker 3>Hy?

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<v Speaker 2>I like it?

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<v Speaker 1>Committed to the brand?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, check that out.

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<v Speaker 1>We will be talking with mister McConaughey shortly before we

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<v Speaker 1>get there, though I can't yell today. My voice is

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<v Speaker 1>just toast after a long time. You give me an

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<v Speaker 1>aggressive like McConaughey. Ask whisper, like an intense whisper. About

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<v Speaker 1>the breaking news, breaking news, breaking news. Three things to

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<v Speaker 1>discuss here, Dan, Yeah, Wisconsin, Nebraska it's off. They're not playing.

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<v Speaker 1>We previewed it, talked a lot about it. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we both went Nebraska give an uncertainty. You may recall

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<v Speaker 1>the line was up there around eight and a half

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<v Speaker 1>when it opened. The news broke about Graham Mertz, Chase

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<v Speaker 1>Wolf and Danny Van den Boom potentially being the starting

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback due to COVID, and now it looks like that

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<v Speaker 1>game is off, which is a bummer. Nebraska actually tried

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<v Speaker 1>to schedule a game with Chattanooga to just find a replacement.

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<v Speaker 1>They put a deal together that was nixed by the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Ten. So it's not look like Nebraska's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be playing this weekend either, despite their best efforts.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and Nebraska had even offered to pay for and

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<v Speaker 2>help everything with testing for the mocks, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>everybody sort of looked at it as a long shot. Obviously, Nebraska,

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<v Speaker 2>when things were up in the air with the Big Ten,

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<v Speaker 2>had sort of floated, or at least Scott Frost had floated,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll play anyone anywhere, like a Pat Hill type enthusiasm,

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<v Speaker 2>and that obviously didn't happen. And this is obviously not happening.

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<v Speaker 2>So Nebraska, with an unexpected by week Wisconsin has shut

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<v Speaker 2>down all team activities. And I did see Barry Alvarez

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<v Speaker 2>responded to a recent report about the heart screening for

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<v Speaker 2>myocarditis with COVID positive tests and how doc and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's learning everything at once, essentially, but doctors are saying,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we're finding so little in terms of myocarditis,

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<v Speaker 2>and we don't even know if what we are finding

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<v Speaker 2>is due to COVID or it's due to an undetected

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<v Speaker 2>birth situation, cardiovascular situation, and so Barry Alvarez was very

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<v Speaker 2>quick to say, you know, we should look into this

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<v Speaker 2>because part of that twenty one day Big Ten sit

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<v Speaker 2>out policy after a couple positive tests is related to

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<v Speaker 2>full screening and giving everybody full time to fully understand.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, to whatever ability, what is going on with

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<v Speaker 2>that positive test and how it's affecting an athlete's body,

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<v Speaker 2>so we'll see. I mean, everything in twenty twenty is fluid,

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<v Speaker 2>so worth paying attention to. And good news for sure

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<v Speaker 2>about myocarditis not appearing in positive COVID tests. I take

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<v Speaker 2>on that as a positive thing because I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>when people have a hard situation that to deal with.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, for sure to your point about everything in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty being fluid. News Broke also that quinn Ewers

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<v Speaker 1>the number one overall recruit in the twenty twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>class A quarterback out of Texas. He had previously been

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<v Speaker 1>committed to the University of Texas. He has since decommitted,

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<v Speaker 1>going to open up his recruitment again consider his options.

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<v Speaker 1>He's being recruited by places like Ohio, state like Alabama,

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously he's the number one kid, so he has his

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<v Speaker 1>pick of the proverbial litter when it comes to where

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<v Speaker 1>he's going next. But a bit of a buber for Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we're going to talk with mister McConaughey briefly

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<v Speaker 1>about the culture at Texas and is it back? What

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<v Speaker 1>does back mean to get talent like this in State?

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<v Speaker 1>I think all kind of plays into that, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a bummer to hear this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And obviously when Texas most certainly was not back,

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<v Speaker 2>it was when they struggled at quarterback with both injuries

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<v Speaker 2>and with talent. You know, the Garrett Gilbert, David ash

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<v Speaker 2>Case McCoy was not an amazing stretch for Texas is football.

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<v Speaker 2>But even if Quinn yours decides to recommit to Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>if that's what's in his plans, there's still a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of questions about what Texas is looking like moving forward.

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<v Speaker 2>In Ohio State and Alabama each have a quarterback of

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<v Speaker 2>the future that they signed last year, which they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to sign most years. CJ. Stroud at Ohio State and

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<v Speaker 2>Bryce I always want to say, Bryce Young, Is it

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<v Speaker 2>Bryce Young? Bryce Jones? Bryce Young?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, there's so many.

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<v Speaker 2>Bryce is such a good name that you know, Quinn

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<v Speaker 2>yours apparently a five star quarterback, six star mullet by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, Oh really, I don't know if you had

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<v Speaker 2>a chance really good investigate and inspect. But yeah, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>worth paying attention to. Because quarterback dominoes seem to be

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<v Speaker 2>falling sooner and sooner each recruiting cycle, affecting where everybody

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<v Speaker 2>else is going to end up. So whatever he decides

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<v Speaker 2>is certainly going to end up affecting the So this

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<v Speaker 2>is not this year's coming class, but next year's.

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<v Speaker 1>The final bit of news also pertaining to quarterbacks that

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<v Speaker 1>I have here is that we talked about Miles Brennan

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<v Speaker 1>practicing potentially being ready for that Auburn game this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Does not look like that is going to be the case.

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<v Speaker 1>He's still working on an injury that he picked up

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<v Speaker 1>I guess more than two weeks ago now, which means TJ. Finley,

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<v Speaker 1>a freshman, he's going to get his second consecutive start.

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<v Speaker 1>Finley was formerly a four star prospect through for two

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<v Speaker 1>sixty five two touchdowns last Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>Had a really nice debut. Yeah, pretty raw, I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>But in terms of the physical tools and ability to

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<v Speaker 2>get the ball to more developed players running backs and

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<v Speaker 2>receivers and tight ends. Seems to be more than serviceable.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean looked raw, but also had a confidence

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<v Speaker 1>about him that I think LC fans could feel good about.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll see how he fares against against the Auburn Tigers.

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<v Speaker 1>But perhaps if that's a game you had circled for

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<v Speaker 1>this coming weekend, your plans to go look a little different.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Also saw the five I guess antigen tests. Maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>can speak to what that exactly is.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>The antigen test that came back positive for Oregon players

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<v Speaker 2>were deemed to be a false positive upon the further

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<v Speaker 2>is it PCR test? Hi, that's the most percise one, correct, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the PCR one. So that's good news for Oregon football

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<v Speaker 2>and players that they don't have players quarantining, they don't

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<v Speaker 2>have players potentially symptomatic, and they're moving forward. Shall we

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<v Speaker 2>do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Dan?

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot wait joining us now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a gentleman we've wanted to have on the show

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<v Speaker 1>for quite some time. He needs no introduction. It is

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<v Speaker 1>the one and only Matthew McConaughey, Sir, Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 1>solid verbal How are you.

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<v Speaker 3>Dan, Tom doing relatively pretty well? How are y'all doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for having me, fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>We are doing well. So we're obviously going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>some football with you. Sure, but before we get their

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<v Speaker 1>congratulations on the book green Lights. I see the hat.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the hat.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, indeed, thank you. This is the truest permanent extension

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<v Speaker 3>of me I've ever put out, and I'm happy to

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<v Speaker 3>hear how it's training out there and being received in

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<v Speaker 3>the world. I'm honored. I'm honored with it, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>happy to say that that was no guarantee.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been out for what about a week now. I

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<v Speaker 1>had the good fortune to read it this past week

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<v Speaker 1>and I couldn't put the thing down. Man, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>hell of a story. So kudos to.

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<v Speaker 3>You, thank you, Thank you much.

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<v Speaker 1>Man. So in the opening chapter of the book, it

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<v Speaker 1>is your mother brandishing a knife at your father, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a hell of a way to grab an audience's attention.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of personal stories in this book,

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<v Speaker 1>which it's a risky move, frankly, not just because you're

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<v Speaker 1>showing a lot of vulnerability, but because personal stories don't

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<v Speaker 1>always land with other people. The way they might with you.

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<v Speaker 1>That was not the case here, at least not for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that something that you considered when putting this together?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I did consider it. Look, I went away to write,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, my diaries and journals of thirty six years.

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<v Speaker 3>On the surface, that's like, well, so what I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>so you want to share that with the world. How's

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<v Speaker 3>that going to translate? What I found out? And I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know, you know, if if there were if I

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<v Speaker 3>was going to find in those journals something that was

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<v Speaker 3>worthy of sharing. I do remember this. I remember writing

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<v Speaker 3>this down on day four when I took When I

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<v Speaker 3>was writing, I said, the words on these pages need

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<v Speaker 3>to be worthy if signed by anonymous, but at the

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<v Speaker 3>same time be a book that only I could have written.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what I tried to pull off. So what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean by that, I can tell you a personal story,

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<v Speaker 3>but is that relatable? Can you see yourself in it?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have the did you did you you know,

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<v Speaker 3>did your life story open up with a story with

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<v Speaker 3>your mom brandishing a twelve inch knife on your dad

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<v Speaker 3>and your dad with the ketchup bottle? Probably not, But

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<v Speaker 3>did you have times and things you may have seen

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<v Speaker 3>as a kid that shaped who you were or or

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<v Speaker 3>or you know, hardships in your own life at times

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<v Speaker 3>where you're like, wow, I would have wished that hardship

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<v Speaker 3>on anybody, but it had a green light asset that

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<v Speaker 3>it revealed to me later in life. Lesson that I

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<v Speaker 3>learned that helped me move and get on my way

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<v Speaker 3>and on my path. So what I did find that

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<v Speaker 3>surprised me is the more personal I got, the more

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<v Speaker 3>relatable actually that the stories became, which happens. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it surprised me, But then I look back at acting.

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<v Speaker 3>My best roles are when I go to the most personal,

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<v Speaker 3>and my roles that have translated to more people that

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<v Speaker 3>they go I saw myself in that were the roles

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<v Speaker 3>that were the most personal to me. And that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>that's so in that way, the book is about the

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<v Speaker 3>human condition. You may not have the same examples and

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<v Speaker 3>circumstances experiences exactly that I had, but we've all had

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<v Speaker 3>similar times in our life when we were lost or

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<v Speaker 3>needed to find our frequency and could not, but then

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<v Speaker 3>later did And well, it's all science in the rearview mirror.

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<v Speaker 3>It all adds up in the rear view mirror going forward,

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<v Speaker 3>it's all a mystery, but looking back you can kind

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<v Speaker 3>of connect the dots and see how we got to

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<v Speaker 3>where we are.

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<v Speaker 1>The title is green lights. Explain to the audience what

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<v Speaker 1>that means to you.

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<v Speaker 3>So green lights, right, we love green lights. They say, go,

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<v Speaker 3>we can keep our pedal, We can keep our foot

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<v Speaker 3>on the pedal. Man, They affirm our way. They say, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>they are freedom. We do not like yellow and red lights.

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<v Speaker 3>They slow us down and they stop us in our tracks.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't want red and yell lights. But often, most

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<v Speaker 3>of the times I've found that red and yell lights

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<v Speaker 3>can cometimes give us what we need. Maybe we don't

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<v Speaker 3>want it, but they can give us what we need

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<v Speaker 3>and help us grow. There are green lights that we

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<v Speaker 3>can create in our lives with our own choices, meaning like,

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<v Speaker 3>we can make choices today that tee us up for

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<v Speaker 3>success tomorrow, that bring us less stress tomorrow, all the

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<v Speaker 3>way down to the simplest things I'm talking about. Put

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<v Speaker 3>your coffee and your coffee filter tonight before you go

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<v Speaker 3>to bed, so tomorrow morning, all you gotta do is

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<v Speaker 3>press the button that's a green light. You've teed yourself

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<v Speaker 3>up for ease. You were kind to your future self

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<v Speaker 3>but they also come in choices that we make with

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<v Speaker 3>our relationships, our responsibilities to our relationships, our accountability for

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<v Speaker 3>our relationships, and ourselves out They reveal choices we can

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<v Speaker 3>make on our careers as well that TuS up for

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<v Speaker 3>more success and more things that turn us on personally

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<v Speaker 3>in our future. We were responsible for those other times

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<v Speaker 3>green light's just fall in our laps and we get

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<v Speaker 3>damn lucky. I don't know where they came from. I

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<v Speaker 3>got lucky. What am I going to do with it? Sometimes,

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<v Speaker 3>as I was mentioned in the beginning, a green light

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<v Speaker 3>is just how we see a certain situation at that time.

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<v Speaker 3>It's about perspective. We can be in a hardship and

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<v Speaker 3>notice when we're in it, ooh, there's a green light

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<v Speaker 3>lesson I'm supposed to learn here. This just sucks, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to be good in the long run. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>we don't notice till tomorrow. Sometimes we don't know this

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<v Speaker 3>till next week. Sometimes we're probably not going to notice

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<v Speaker 3>what those green lights were in those red and yellow

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<v Speaker 3>lights until we're on our deathbed. But eventually, the red

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<v Speaker 3>and yellow lights in our lives, I do believe, do

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<v Speaker 3>reveal green light assets or actually turn Green themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the more interesting stories in the book was

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<v Speaker 1>how you describe the process of picking Texas as your college.

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<v Speaker 1>So certainly everyone on this call, certainly everybody listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the show knows, Matthew McConaughey, native son of Texas, proud Longhorn,

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<v Speaker 1>you actually wanted to go to SMU. Yeah, how did

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<v Speaker 1>that go down?

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm in Australia as an exchange student. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to be a lawyer. I figure you're SMUs in Dallas,

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<v Speaker 3>at a major metropolis. I've always been a big fan

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<v Speaker 3>of experiential learning, so in my mind at that time,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, look, as a metropolis, I'll be able to

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<v Speaker 3>get an internship in a law school in Dallas sooner

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<v Speaker 3>than I would in Austin. Therefore, I could be in

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<v Speaker 3>practice as a lawyer probably sooner, with more options in

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<v Speaker 3>places to do. So my dad, who was going to

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<v Speaker 3>pay for school, calls me one time. I'm in Australia,

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<v Speaker 3>right fro, I'm about to come home and I just

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<v Speaker 3>started applying to colleges and he says he always called

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<v Speaker 3>a school by their mascot. He's like, so you want

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<v Speaker 3>to be a Mustang? Huh? I yes, sir. I told

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<v Speaker 3>him those reasons why, and he goes, what about what

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<v Speaker 3>about being a longhorn, buddy? And I was like, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to be a Mustang and here's those reasons why.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's like you sure, like yeah, yeah, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>me Hang up, I have no idea why my dad's

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<v Speaker 3>saying want to be a longhorn. The phone rings five

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<v Speaker 3>minutes later and to my brother Pat middle brother. He goes, hey, man,

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<v Speaker 3>thet brother. Dad ain't gonna tell you this, but financial

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<v Speaker 3>times are tough. The oil business has gone on the tank.

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<v Speaker 3>He's kind of broke, and it's going to cost him

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<v Speaker 3>three times as much to send you to SMU then

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<v Speaker 3>it will you t you should go to Texas And

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I don't know about that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>And he goes, man, have you ever been to Austin?

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<v Speaker 3>And I said no. He goes your shirtlet's no shoes wearing.

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<v Speaker 3>I say, is gonna love it, man. You can walk

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<v Speaker 3>in Austin and saddle up at a bar and you're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna have a cowboy to the right of your Texas

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<v Speaker 3>ranger to the right of you, and a lesbian to

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<v Speaker 3>your left and a dwarf on the other side of them,

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<v Speaker 3>and and and and somebody else on the other side.

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<v Speaker 3>It's your kind of place. All you got to be

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<v Speaker 3>is you in Austin. And I was like, that sounds good.

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<v Speaker 3>Well he was right. I called. I called my dad

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<v Speaker 3>right after that, knowing that it would financially help him,

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<v Speaker 3>and said, I want to be a long horn. He's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>great idea, buddy, Come horns man. And that's why I went.

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<v Speaker 3>And Look, if I didn't go to University of Texas,

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<v Speaker 3>I probably wouldn't be sitting there talking to you with

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<v Speaker 3>life I have right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true and one of the things that obviously came

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<v Speaker 2>of that, especially coming from Texas. You've written about how

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<v Speaker 2>football has been meaningful to you basically your entire life,

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<v Speaker 2>from your dad's playing career. It's obviously going to ut

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<v Speaker 2>What is it about college though, that has resonated with

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<v Speaker 2>you more so than the pros, more than high school,

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<v Speaker 2>more than any other level. What is it about the

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<v Speaker 2>college football level that is in your DNA?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the purity and look it might be in somewhat romantic,

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<v Speaker 3>it's getting to be more and more of a romantic

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<v Speaker 3>notion with each day as college sports become their own business.

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<v Speaker 3>But that fact of you've got four years on average

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<v Speaker 3>at one place to play school. There's not a free agency,

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<v Speaker 3>you're not gonna you know, now you've got more transfers

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<v Speaker 3>than you used to is still overall. It's not like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, in the pros. Now you can love your

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<v Speaker 3>team this year and it may be a completely different

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<v Speaker 3>team next year. You still may love the team, but

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<v Speaker 3>your players may be completely different. In college, you've got

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<v Speaker 3>that that they're you know, they're essentially not getting paid

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<v Speaker 3>like they do in pro sports. They're still eighteen to

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<v Speaker 3>twenty two years old, most of them in a place

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<v Speaker 3>at the University of Texas where the absolute stud in

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<v Speaker 3>their high school. They really find out how much of

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<v Speaker 3>a stud they are on an overall level. Obviously, most

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<v Speaker 3>of them do not go pro. A lot more of

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<v Speaker 3>them think they're going to go pro than they actually do. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>it's the ritual around it, it's the school spirit behind it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's where the mascot still really means something, or at

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<v Speaker 3>least I sure like to believe that it really means something.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an expectation and it's time when young men are

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<v Speaker 3>growing into becoming men it is teamwork at the same time,

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<v Speaker 3>it's individual responsibility. That's what I love about the sport

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<v Speaker 3>of football. It's battle at the University of Texas one

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<v Speaker 3>of my favorite things. And this is under debate now

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<v Speaker 3>of should the Eyes of Texas still remain. But one

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<v Speaker 3>of the things I love about the song is that

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<v Speaker 3>we play it and stand for it after wins and losses,

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<v Speaker 3>which is basically after a loss is saying we may

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<v Speaker 3>have lost the battle, but we're still going to win

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<v Speaker 3>the war. When it's an ongoing thing, you're playing for

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<v Speaker 3>Alma made that was there before you. You're playing for

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<v Speaker 3>young athletes that are going to come after you. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's my favorite. It's my favorite sport in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>College football is my favorite sport that I like to

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<v Speaker 3>I like to follow, and I'm just you know, you see,

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<v Speaker 3>these young men are more impressionable. It's so much about

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<v Speaker 3>I say this all the time. If someone can figure

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<v Speaker 3>out the key to unlock the mind of the eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>to twenty two year old young male athlete, there's more

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<v Speaker 3>than gold in there. I mean, they're because so much

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<v Speaker 3>of it is about confidence. So much it is about

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<v Speaker 3>where are they mentally? You see teams go out there

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<v Speaker 3>that you know, do not have the physical capacity to

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<v Speaker 3>even wear the jockstrap of the team they're playing, But

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<v Speaker 3>if they're mentally on it, they can beat that team

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<v Speaker 3>on that Saturday. You know, I've been I've been able

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<v Speaker 3>to see games like the two thousand and five National

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<v Speaker 3>Championship when we beat USC. You couldn't write that script

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<v Speaker 3>in Hollywood, you couldn't write that script. That's the best drama,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the best dramas I've ever seen, and it

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<v Speaker 3>was live. So that's that's some of the stuff I

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<v Speaker 3>love about it.

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<v Speaker 2>What would it have taken for you? You were not

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<v Speaker 2>a college football recruit when you were talking about SMU

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<v Speaker 2>VERSUS Texas. Yeah, if you were a college football recruit,

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<v Speaker 2>what is in the seventeen or eighteen year old Matthew

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<v Speaker 2>McConaughey's mind that would have unlocked him to get him

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<v Speaker 2>to Texas, USC cal Florida State. What would have swayed

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<v Speaker 2>you at that moment?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, one, I think my legs would need to be

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<v Speaker 3>about two inches longer.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, in the hypothetical that you are a five star

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<v Speaker 2>Our Blue cheperd Crew, what.

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<v Speaker 3>Would have gotten me to go play? Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>my dad played at University of Kentucky unto Bear Bryant.

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<v Speaker 3>He had a falling out with him, transferred to Houston,

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<v Speaker 3>and then got drafted by the Green Bay Packers. He

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<v Speaker 3>let me tell you this story about football. He came

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<v Speaker 3>to us and we were you know, I grew up

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<v Speaker 3>in Texas. My brothers and I all played football up

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<v Speaker 3>to a certain level. I remember being very nervous. And

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<v Speaker 3>this story is not in the book, but I remember

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<v Speaker 3>being very nervous about telling him I didn't want to

0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:37.119
<v Speaker 3>play football in high school. And I called him back

0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:38.600
<v Speaker 3>from my room and tell him. And I was nervous

0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:41.240
<v Speaker 3>and I told him, and he goes, oh, great, great idea, buddy.

0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:43.720
<v Speaker 3>I told him I wanted to play golf, and he goes, great,

0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:46.320
<v Speaker 3>play golf. You can play that too. You go down.

0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:47.840
<v Speaker 3>I go, Dad, why are you so? Why is he?

0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:49.840
<v Speaker 3>Why are you so amendable to this idea? He goes,

0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:52.240
<v Speaker 3>you know, how can you tell it's me coming to

0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:54.920
<v Speaker 3>your room before I get there? I go, yeah, yes, sir,

0:23:55.040 --> 0:23:56.280
<v Speaker 3>And he goes, how can you tell? I said, I

0:23:56.320 --> 0:23:58.520
<v Speaker 3>can hear you. He goes, what do you hear? I

0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:04.520
<v Speaker 3>go out here, Bob. He goes, yeah, man, I gotta

0:24:04.560 --> 0:24:06.560
<v Speaker 3>played in here. I got screwed in here. He goes

0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:09.159
<v Speaker 3>play golf, you'll play it til you go down. I

0:24:09.200 --> 0:24:14.240
<v Speaker 3>would have been a good linebacker, That's my mentality, meaning

0:24:14.840 --> 0:24:17.120
<v Speaker 3>that spot on defense that has to do with speed

0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:19.879
<v Speaker 3>and power and really putting your nose in it and

0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:22.480
<v Speaker 3>reading an offense in the middle of the field is

0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:26.640
<v Speaker 3>where I would have where I mentally excel. Meaning when

0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:29.520
<v Speaker 3>I played baseball, I was an all star catcher. When

0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:32.399
<v Speaker 3>I played soccer, I was an all star goalie. I

0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:36.480
<v Speaker 3>love defense, and that place in linebacker was where I

0:24:36.520 --> 0:24:39.119
<v Speaker 3>thought my body was going to go to give me

0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:43.480
<v Speaker 3>the ability to play. And then I got kind of

0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:45.880
<v Speaker 3>my growth kind of got stumped around the eighth ninth

0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:50.280
<v Speaker 3>grade and where I was bigger before now I wasn't bigger,

0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:53.640
<v Speaker 3>but I also didn't have the speed, so I would

0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:57.080
<v Speaker 3>have played linebacker. My favorite one of my favorite football

0:24:57.080 --> 0:24:58.880
<v Speaker 3>players growing up as a guy in Hall of Famer named

0:24:58.960 --> 0:25:02.320
<v Speaker 3>Chris Hanburger for what is now called the Washington football team,

0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:06.440
<v Speaker 3>and his deal was he could hit you at the

0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:10.160
<v Speaker 3>line of scrimmage, have you completely wrapped up. He may

0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:13.240
<v Speaker 3>give you two extra yards past that, but he loved

0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:15.200
<v Speaker 3>to grab you and throw you down and then stand

0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:16.720
<v Speaker 3>over you and go, look, see I didn't go down

0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:18.240
<v Speaker 3>the ground with you. And he may give you two

0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:21.080
<v Speaker 3>extra yards on that, but I loved I. I have

0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:24.560
<v Speaker 3>a linebacker's mentality, and I've carried that linebacker's mentality throughout

0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:26.560
<v Speaker 3>my life and it's helped me in my own career.

0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:28.879
<v Speaker 2>You now have, well, you have a couple roles at

0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:31.760
<v Speaker 2>the University of Texas. Obviously, the Minister of Culture thing

0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:34.359
<v Speaker 2>has been well written about and it's well known at

0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:37.640
<v Speaker 2>this point. Also, you teach a class at UT, and

0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:42.159
<v Speaker 2>your class is your background. It's film studies, it's you know,

0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:44.400
<v Speaker 2>from the screen to the studio, all sorts of things

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:47.880
<v Speaker 2>that you have decades of experience, and you didn't have

0:25:47.960 --> 0:25:51.720
<v Speaker 2>experience in college sports. This is a foreign industry to you.

0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:55.160
<v Speaker 2>Where does the confidence come from within you to go

0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:59.640
<v Speaker 2>to UT and say I have ideas, I have thoughts, Yeah,

0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:01.800
<v Speaker 2>I am committed. Where does that confidence come from?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the same values and business. Part of my work

0:26:04.960 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 3>as a Mister of Culture trying to align the same

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:08.960
<v Speaker 3>values that look the same values. It takes to have

0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:12.440
<v Speaker 3>a championship team on the field or in the pool,

0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 3>or on the on the pitch or or on the course.

0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:18.199
<v Speaker 3>The same values for championships. There are the same values

0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:21.480
<v Speaker 3>that it takes for students who are not athletes to

0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:24.479
<v Speaker 3>go and succeed and do the best they can and

0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:27.600
<v Speaker 3>succeed in business. So I want to align those values

0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:30.000
<v Speaker 3>and how do how do we maintain and make sure

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<v Speaker 3>we are still becoming even more so a university that's

0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:36.000
<v Speaker 3>not only putting champions out on the field in a sport,

0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:39.560
<v Speaker 3>but also putting champions out into life as civilians, in

0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:46.120
<v Speaker 3>the workplaces, as individuals. So, you know, I'm now fifty.

0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:50.399
<v Speaker 3>You know the class that I teach, it was it

0:26:50.400 --> 0:26:52.359
<v Speaker 3>was a very I remember the time I was sitting there.

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:54.000
<v Speaker 3>I would always go talk to the students in film

0:26:54.000 --> 0:26:56.959
<v Speaker 3>classes long before the class got started, and they started

0:26:57.000 --> 0:26:59.200
<v Speaker 3>to be like really really interested in what I was

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<v Speaker 3>saying and take notes and tell me that was so

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:03.959
<v Speaker 3>awesome that with knowledge you dropped on so and I

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 3>was like, in my mind, really, I just took that

0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:08.680
<v Speaker 3>for granted. I thought everyone knew that, and I always

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:10.960
<v Speaker 3>felt like I was just here in college like four

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 3>years ago. Well, no, it's been a little bit longer

0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:16.240
<v Speaker 3>than that. So I realized, oh, I put together a

0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:21.560
<v Speaker 3>career and gained experience that is worth sharing. And actually

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:23.679
<v Speaker 3>then I got the confidence say well, let's create a

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:27.480
<v Speaker 3>class because I may take it for granted, but I

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 3>have a lot of experience that these students, these serious

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 3>film students do not have. And then I thought about

0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:35.000
<v Speaker 3>what is the class I would have wanted? What is

0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:36.560
<v Speaker 3>the class I wish they would have had for me

0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:39.359
<v Speaker 3>when I was at films, And it was this, how

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 3>does an original script get to screen? Many many changes

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:46.679
<v Speaker 3>and adaptations along the way. So in our class, we

0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:49.719
<v Speaker 3>chronologically follow the journey as script takes to get to screen,

0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:53.159
<v Speaker 3>and we show you the science behind the magic of

0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:55.360
<v Speaker 3>movie making and storytelling.

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:57.040
<v Speaker 2>And the college sports element. Where do you get the

0:27:57.040 --> 0:28:00.359
<v Speaker 2>confidence to say I have ideas that college apfter fleets

0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 2>need to hear well.

0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:05.120
<v Speaker 3>For instance, you know I don't know how to go

0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, run better. I don't know how to go

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:10.560
<v Speaker 3>better run a college offense. I don't know how to

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't go to Tom Herman or Mac Brown and

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:16.480
<v Speaker 3>say I got ideas for a play. Sure I should.

0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:20.560
<v Speaker 3>I mean I had to share is things that I know.

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<v Speaker 3>I've always been intrigued with the intangibles. You know, there's

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:27.639
<v Speaker 3>there's two, like, for instance, the Utah game where we

0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:32.880
<v Speaker 3>where we waxed Utah last year. The two plays that

0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 3>I show the team that I want to talk to

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 3>coaches about are one when KeAndre Coburn gets his helmet

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 3>knocked off his head in the middle of the field

0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:44.959
<v Speaker 3>and still runs after the guy with the ball and

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:47.480
<v Speaker 3>gets in on the tackle. And then as on the

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 3>sideline where you can see his mouth after he's kicked

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 3>out of the game. You have to take a playoff,

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 3>right because you can't be on the field without you

0:28:54.240 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 3>can't pursue a play without your helmet on. And you

0:28:56.440 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 3>see his mouth going. I didn't know that was a

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 3>beep and rule. I'm like, that is a great intangible.

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 3>That mental capacity right there, that you were balling without

0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 3>a helmet is an intangible that can speak volumes across

0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:13.520
<v Speaker 3>a board for a team. Another one is this Sam

0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 3>Allinger breaks out to the left, goes on like a

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 3>thirty two yard run. We're well ahead, he's coming back

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:20.719
<v Speaker 3>on the field. The cornerback that finally got him out

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:25.240
<v Speaker 3>of bounds is up in his face. Three linemen ran

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 3>the thirty two yards down the field and just build

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:30.280
<v Speaker 3>a wall up and from that cornerback and backed him

0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:32.920
<v Speaker 3>off of their quarterback. And Sam Allinger didn't even not

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 3>didn't even didn't even look at the cornerback, just ran

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:39.360
<v Speaker 3>back to the huddle. But his three linemen were down

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 3>the field in that cornerback's face go no, no, no, you

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 3>don't touch you don't talk any smack tar quarterback, we're

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:47.280
<v Speaker 3>rolling your ass right now. Those are two intangibles that

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:49.400
<v Speaker 3>don't have anything to do with the specific play, but

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 3>they had to do with a major They majorly have

0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:54.840
<v Speaker 3>to do with the mentality that can help you succeed

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 3>on a football field.

0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, there's a lot of parallel there

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:02.480
<v Speaker 1>between what you saw on that play and some of

0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 1>the passages in your book, your experiences with your father

0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:10.080
<v Speaker 1>about getting into his good graces. Yeah, there were several

0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 1>interesting stories about that in the book. How you sort of,

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I guess, got on the good side if you want

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 1>to say, for your.

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 3>Fights with my father initiations, Yeah, you know my dad's

0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 3>You know, if I asked my dad, what was your

0:30:23.480 --> 0:30:25.479
<v Speaker 3>your biggest asset as a football player when you were

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:30.080
<v Speaker 3>your best, he goes played to the whistleblows and sometimes

0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 3>a little bit further even longer. So I've had many

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:37.520
<v Speaker 3>things in my life where maybe I didn't have the

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:41.280
<v Speaker 3>equal ability as the person next to me I was

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:44.400
<v Speaker 3>competing with. But I got the job or succeeded because

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 3>I out hustled that person. I got, I got back

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 3>up again, I got. I got up from more failures

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:53.560
<v Speaker 3>than that person did, and that person finally went, I

0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:56.080
<v Speaker 3>give man, I can't beat this guy. He just won't

0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 3>quit coming. And so that underdog mentality is something that

0:30:59.640 --> 0:31:04.040
<v Speaker 3>I've taked and into my work throughout my life. You know,

0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:05.959
<v Speaker 3>our family, we had big rights of passage, and some

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:07.720
<v Speaker 3>of them are physical. Quite a few of them were,

0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 3>and that was a rite of passage in my dad's

0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 3>mind of when you become a man. Part of it

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:15.680
<v Speaker 3>was to challenge him. If you got the kahonas to

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 3>challenge me, he'd always say, boys, you know where to

0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 3>find me. Now that was a big challenge. My dad

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:24.440
<v Speaker 3>was a big man. You know, six four, two sixty

0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:29.000
<v Speaker 3>five that those numbers don't didn't didn't bode well for actually.

0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 3>But if you went to him, which my brother did

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 3>and I did it in some fashion a little bit

0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 3>later in life, it wasn't about you didn't ever get

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:40.800
<v Speaker 3>in there in the in the in the real fight.

0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:43.520
<v Speaker 3>It was that if you actually meant the challenge, like

0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:47.400
<v Speaker 3>come on, old man, let's do it. That's when he went, ah,

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 3>there's my boy, that's what I was looking for. Then

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:53.200
<v Speaker 3>you were buddies with him, but you needed to come

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:55.240
<v Speaker 3>in and mean it and say I'm going my own way.

0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:57.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm not taking any more. Here's what I'm going to do.

0:31:57.480 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 3>And that's when he would That's when you got the

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 3>bear hug in the tiers from him saying that's my boy.

0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:04.080
<v Speaker 1>So I want to go back to the intangibles for

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:06.320
<v Speaker 1>a second, because this is also something that you talk

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 1>about in the book. With regard to sports betting, you're

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:13.040
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily First off, you're not betting for the money.

0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:15.560
<v Speaker 1>It's not about the money. It's about it's about saying

0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:17.880
<v Speaker 1>I told you so right. That's what it's about.

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:22.760
<v Speaker 3>You knew it. It's about saying I knew it. It's

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 3>about buying a ticket to the game that I'm not

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 3>that interested in, so I'm going to lay fifty bucks

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 3>on the on the on the on the pro game.

0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 3>It's it's about you know, when uh, I say, oh,

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm betting on whoever. I'm betting on Brett fav team

0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 3>Monday night because his dad passed away last Tuesday. And

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 3>if he's going to actually play in this game, which

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:49.280
<v Speaker 3>he says he is those intended, he will be playing

0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 3>for more than just a game. He's going to be

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:54.960
<v Speaker 3>on another level. And he actually was you know what

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean?

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I told you so right there you go.

0:32:56.960 --> 0:33:01.400
<v Speaker 3>I knew it. It's an intangible you know, the the

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:04.560
<v Speaker 3>pick of just the straight spread is not that interesting

0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 3>to me. It's how is that team in practice who

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 3>traveled across the country is going to be jet lagged?

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:13.680
<v Speaker 3>And I'm not always right. I'd say I'm fifty one

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:15.520
<v Speaker 3>percent right. And if you're fifty one percent right, you

0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 3>could actually make a bit of a living, do it.

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:21.160
<v Speaker 3>I thought, when i'm you know, it is when you're wrong,

0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 3>you're like, well, there must be a glitch in the system,

0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. But when you're right, you're like,

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 3>I knew I was on the pulse. And whether that's

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:30.760
<v Speaker 3>full of myself or not, I don't care. It's fun

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 3>to go. I knew it. I knew it. I read

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 3>the future.

0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:38.720
<v Speaker 1>Well, so with all that being said, we're a college

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:43.600
<v Speaker 1>football show. Eighteen to twenty two year old athletes a

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:48.480
<v Speaker 1>crazy time in all of their lives, raging hormones, wild emotions,

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 1>insane rivalries. I would think if intangibles are your thing

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:56.560
<v Speaker 1>as a better that college football might might be something

0:33:56.600 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 1>you're interested in. Do you bet at all on college football?

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:03.640
<v Speaker 3>Not really? And and and I don't with with with

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:08.840
<v Speaker 3>my teams, kind of keep that out of it, you know,

0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:12.240
<v Speaker 3>I I I don't want to. I've got a relationship

0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 3>with with players and coaches at the University of Texas.

0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 3>I I do have an inside eye. I want to

0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:23.719
<v Speaker 3>keep that pure as I can with them. Yeah, you know,

0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:26.040
<v Speaker 3>right now, what's this season going to end up being?

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:28.399
<v Speaker 3>I mean, what have we got? We got? Ohio? Big

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:31.359
<v Speaker 3>ten comes out last week, plays their first games. You're

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:34.759
<v Speaker 3>looking at these lopsided numbers when you're seeing teams play

0:34:34.920 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 3>Texas two and two, playing Baylor one on one. Wait,

0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 3>what where were the other two games? Oh? Yeah, I

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:42.920
<v Speaker 3>think Wisconsin just canceled another game. Here, we're going to

0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 3>find out that this grand experiment is going to work

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:50.720
<v Speaker 3>here that we're in you know right now, the team,

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:53.400
<v Speaker 3>this is more of a mental game, this mental season,

0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:58.839
<v Speaker 3>this season than any season it's an abbreviated season. Uh,

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:02.719
<v Speaker 3>the kids routines are not the same. The coaches have

0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:04.719
<v Speaker 3>not had the same access or time has been with

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 3>the teams. You know, I would think it's probably a

0:35:08.200 --> 0:35:13.400
<v Speaker 3>good time to simplify some awesome game plans and say,

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:16.239
<v Speaker 3>you know, let your athletes take the full advantage of

0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:20.479
<v Speaker 3>their athletic ability as you can, because the kids haven't

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:22.840
<v Speaker 3>had the time to go through the reps that they

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:27.480
<v Speaker 3>would have had time before, you know, and again the

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 3>hard thing in a season, it's impossible to get those

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:35.879
<v Speaker 3>young men on a college football field to be absolutely

0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:43.160
<v Speaker 3>in peak performance position and they're mentally and physically ten

0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:47.239
<v Speaker 3>saturdays a year now on paper, you go, it's ten

0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:49.959
<v Speaker 3>saturdays a year for three and a half hours. Can

0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:52.480
<v Speaker 3>we everything go to having it?

0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:52.719
<v Speaker 2>Won't?

0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:55.920
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't happen. There's I remember, you know, coach mac

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:59.880
<v Speaker 3>brime used to say, you know, Texas when he was there, Oh,

0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:04.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, we'll play good against Oklahoma or Nebraska in

0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:07.239
<v Speaker 3>your background, which there's a story of when we beat

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:11.440
<v Speaker 3>Nebraska in ninety nine in the in the book. But

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:14.640
<v Speaker 3>he would say, you know, at that time, Rice wasn't

0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:17.879
<v Speaker 3>very good, and he was like, but we're gonna need

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:19.520
<v Speaker 3>you to pump up the team for the Rice game

0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:23.640
<v Speaker 3>because I have a tendency to play just good enough

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:25.520
<v Speaker 3>and maybe make it closer than it should have been,

0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 3>you know. And that's one of Texas has challenged right now,

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:31.440
<v Speaker 3>is it has been. It's not only is being good

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:34.759
<v Speaker 3>enough to roll the teams you should roll and put

0:36:34.880 --> 0:36:37.680
<v Speaker 3>put put put, with the proverbial foot down on the

0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:40.279
<v Speaker 3>throat when it's time. And because we played some of

0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:42.080
<v Speaker 3>the big games good. Our best game we probably played

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 3>lest She was against LSU. We lost, but we played

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 3>good in those in those big games. It's about finding

0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:50.960
<v Speaker 3>a consistency across the board for us right now, of

0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 3>going out there and playing for a par excellence that

0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 3>we ourselves hold ourselves accountable to, not what anyone else thinks.

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:03.479
<v Speaker 1>Now with you, what's your relationship with the age old

0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:07.600
<v Speaker 1>question now of is Texas back? Is it annoying to

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:09.360
<v Speaker 1>hear that? I'm sure you've heard it by now. Is

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:10.399
<v Speaker 1>it annoying to hear that?

0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:12.040
<v Speaker 2>Is it something.

0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:14.319
<v Speaker 1>That that you hear and you sort of chuckle about it?

0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:16.839
<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about that? What does Texas back

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:19.480
<v Speaker 1>even really mean to a Texas slum and a long

0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:20.279
<v Speaker 1>time Texas fan.

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:28.399
<v Speaker 3>Well, Texas back means earnestly competing for national championships period.

0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:32.920
<v Speaker 3>That's the expectation. Players understand that when they come to

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:35.880
<v Speaker 3>Texas that needs to be that par excellence sort of

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 3>measure above the above the head and in the mind

0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:42.240
<v Speaker 3>of anybody at the University of Texas playing any sport,

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:46.799
<v Speaker 3>we are you know, we have a tradition, we're right

0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:49.960
<v Speaker 3>there in the hobbit of incredible athletes we have. No

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:54.359
<v Speaker 3>one has better facilities, no one has a better opportunity

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:57.560
<v Speaker 3>to be great, be any better than we do here

0:37:57.560 --> 0:38:01.640
<v Speaker 3>at the University of Texas. So are we back? No,

0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:05.600
<v Speaker 3>we're not back. And I believe when we quit even

0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:08.479
<v Speaker 3>fighting to say, oh uh, we got to get back

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:10.359
<v Speaker 3>because the world thinks we should be back, and we're

0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:12.759
<v Speaker 3>just like f it, we're back. We're gonna go just

0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:14.799
<v Speaker 3>go do the work and we're gonna we're gonna handle it.

0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:18.200
<v Speaker 3>I think you know the place like texts you're gonna have,

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:22.799
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna be scrutinized at a different level than anywhere else. Well,

0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:25.719
<v Speaker 3>that's part of the package. So in that way, these

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:28.000
<v Speaker 3>young men have to grow up even faster in today's

0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:31.080
<v Speaker 3>world of social media, how do you keep from playing

0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:33.759
<v Speaker 3>in the dan third person? You know what I mean?

0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 3>When when we start playing as a team in the

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:39.080
<v Speaker 3>first person as the subject, forget the forget the jumbo trump,

0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:42.919
<v Speaker 3>forget what anyone's saying about me Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wendy

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:45.720
<v Speaker 3>leading Upstay, we first start forgetting about that and playing

0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 3>for our ourselves as a team and quit worrying about

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:51.320
<v Speaker 3>what the rest of the world thing that's will actually

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:53.040
<v Speaker 3>be on our way to truly being back.

0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Does Texas have to worry about the Texas machine becoming

0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:01.760
<v Speaker 2>too big? Because as you know, I mean it's similar

0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:03.799
<v Speaker 2>to a movie set, and that there are so many

0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 2>people that go into a major football program. What is

0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:09.160
<v Speaker 2>and I don't mean this in a good nor a

0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:12.240
<v Speaker 2>bad way, What does that machine look like behind the scenes?

0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:13.839
<v Speaker 2>What does it look What does it mean to have

0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:16.640
<v Speaker 2>to you know, there are so many voices. There are boosters,

0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:19.280
<v Speaker 2>there are athletic directors, there there are so many voices

0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 2>that have opinions about what Texas Football should be doing.

0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:25.640
<v Speaker 2>What does it take to wrangle that machine from what

0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:26.160
<v Speaker 2>you've seen?

0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:33.360
<v Speaker 3>Wins? That's a w that's not a three that's a w. Wins.

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:36.960
<v Speaker 3>Winning fixes most all of it. And that's not just

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:38.840
<v Speaker 3>at the University of Texas, but it's definitely at the

0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:42.920
<v Speaker 3>University of Texas. You know, Tom Harmon, coach, came in

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:45.320
<v Speaker 3>there and talked about the football team. His main word,

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 3>which is a good one, is alignment. We've got to

0:39:48.200 --> 0:39:51.759
<v Speaker 3>get everyone's expectations aligned and understand what it takes to

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 3>play there, and then you go about the course and

0:39:55.040 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 3>you stick to it. It's something you can believe in

0:39:57.400 --> 0:39:59.960
<v Speaker 3>and that you're going to take even into next satitay,

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:04.319
<v Speaker 3>even after maybe a loss. Getting everyone aligned again, the

0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 3>expectations are higher, as high and higher than anywhere else

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:12.319
<v Speaker 3>in any other university in the nation. Good Can you

0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:15.279
<v Speaker 3>look at that as not pressure? Here let me give

0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:17.160
<v Speaker 3>you an example. I did a film called Killers Show.

0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:20.680
<v Speaker 3>The director William Freagan did something that I've never heard

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:24.000
<v Speaker 3>before and it was awesome. But this is what the

0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:26.840
<v Speaker 3>mentality needs to be at Texas. Right here, he goes, Okay,

0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:32.000
<v Speaker 3>everyone new rule this entire shoot. It's a day one

0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:36.319
<v Speaker 3>er shooting. He goes, everybody gets one take. Now you

0:40:36.320 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 3>can go two ways with that. You can go, oh, yeah,

0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:42.680
<v Speaker 3>what am I gonna do? It, or you can go, well,

0:40:43.440 --> 0:40:46.920
<v Speaker 3>f it, let's rock and roll, don't hold anything back.

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:49.719
<v Speaker 3>You got one take, it's live, there's no take too,

0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:55.120
<v Speaker 3>there's no audition, let's go. I was happy to engage

0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:58.400
<v Speaker 3>in that second version where where I found it freeing.

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:00.680
<v Speaker 3>I found freedom in it instead of getting tight with

0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:04.960
<v Speaker 3>the pressure. We'll get some consistency as as we're as

0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:08.400
<v Speaker 3>we're as we're getting into now that will hopefully deem

0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:11.960
<v Speaker 3>improve itself to be successful in the long run. This

0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 3>is a tricky, wild year. This was Tom Irman's fourth year.

0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:16.560
<v Speaker 3>These are his guys. This is the year I had

0:41:16.560 --> 0:41:18.360
<v Speaker 3>penciled in that I thought we would really compete for

0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:20.920
<v Speaker 3>the national championship. It doesn't look like that's gonna happen.

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:24.160
<v Speaker 3>At our record at three and two, I feel like

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:27.959
<v Speaker 3>we'll go in and play Oklahoma State good because that's

0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:30.360
<v Speaker 3>that's that's a big game. It's a conference game. The

0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 3>other thing you got to remember, Texas is take pride

0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:37.120
<v Speaker 3>and honor in the fact that you are eleven other

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:41.759
<v Speaker 3>team's favorite and biggest rival and the next one I

0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:43.960
<v Speaker 3>think it's four at Notre Dame and we're like, we

0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:46.680
<v Speaker 3>have eleven. Look at that with honor and look at

0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:49.080
<v Speaker 3>that with responsibility, account of building and go good. I'd

0:41:49.160 --> 0:41:51.800
<v Speaker 3>have it no other way. You know. It's like, like

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:55.439
<v Speaker 3>I said, Oklahoma, they are indirectly complimenting us. Every time

0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:59.200
<v Speaker 3>they do this with their horns. It's like they've grabbed

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:02.120
<v Speaker 3>our sign and all I do is turn upside down.

0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:05.480
<v Speaker 3>It's like, thank you, you have your own sign. In

0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:08.960
<v Speaker 3>the meantime, keep doing that, because a compliment it means

0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:10.520
<v Speaker 3>your identity goes through us.

0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 2>One of the things that you've talked about, even as

0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:16.560
<v Speaker 2>it relates to your acting career, is over preparing, just

0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:20.120
<v Speaker 2>knowing everything about a role. And in your current role

0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:23.520
<v Speaker 2>as Minister of Culture, you're in the weeds. You're with players,

0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:27.800
<v Speaker 2>you're with coaches. Coaches travel and see how other programs operate.

0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Have you been to Ohio State, Alabama, Florida, Oregon? Have

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:35.319
<v Speaker 2>you been to those places to familiarize yourself with what

0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:37.040
<v Speaker 2>major college football looks like.

0:42:37.440 --> 0:42:40.680
<v Speaker 3>I've been to pro sports, have been international sports, and

0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:45.279
<v Speaker 3>I've gone around the world and seeing how different organizations,

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:50.080
<v Speaker 3>businesses and sports and institutions handle themselves. One of the

0:42:50.120 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 3>things that you have to do, and this goes back

0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:56.239
<v Speaker 3>to alignment, you have to have clear messaging. I have

0:42:56.360 --> 0:42:59.879
<v Speaker 3>been in Texas at times in along the past where

0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:04.759
<v Speaker 3>the messages were beautiful, but there are too many of them.

0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:07.440
<v Speaker 3>You got to have a baseline. You got to have

0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:11.600
<v Speaker 3>a bloodline message, a commitment to excellent or a play

0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 3>like a champion, or what is the baseline theme that

0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:19.520
<v Speaker 3>bleeds through twenty four to seven from practice to the

0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:24.320
<v Speaker 3>locker rooms to game day and reverberates throughout the entire stadium.

0:43:24.560 --> 0:43:28.560
<v Speaker 3>What is the heartbeat that you can go this is

0:43:28.600 --> 0:43:31.000
<v Speaker 3>who we are, this is what we rely on. Now,

0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:34.239
<v Speaker 3>you can have a different motto each week to get

0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:37.840
<v Speaker 3>people up with a new aspirational thought. You can have

0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:40.480
<v Speaker 3>a motto each season that you can amend a little bit,

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:44.880
<v Speaker 3>but the heartbeat has to stay and continue to be

0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:48.360
<v Speaker 3>consistent throughout. And the greatest teams have that and rely

0:43:48.480 --> 0:43:52.640
<v Speaker 3>on that. And it is the thing that takes you

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:54.919
<v Speaker 3>through the losses that you will have, takes you through

0:43:54.920 --> 0:43:57.400
<v Speaker 3>the battles because it's the theme that takes you on

0:43:57.480 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 3>to go win the war at the end of the battle.

0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Is that cohesion close?

0:44:03.120 --> 0:44:03.680
<v Speaker 3>Is it there?

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:07.920
<v Speaker 2>What sense do you get from seeing successful organizations to

0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:10.879
<v Speaker 2>where Texas is in late October?

0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:14.440
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's hard to say right now at three and

0:44:14.480 --> 0:44:16.200
<v Speaker 3>two that is there because it wouldn't be a parent

0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:18.680
<v Speaker 3>that it is. It wouldn't be a parent that it

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:20.520
<v Speaker 3>is there because at the end of the day, we

0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:23.319
<v Speaker 3>can talk about it all we want. And myself being

0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:26.759
<v Speaker 3>a huge University of Texas Longhorn Van and people that

0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:30.200
<v Speaker 3>don't like the University of Texas, our biggest robberies would say,

0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:32.200
<v Speaker 3>your record tells you who you are. That's the old

0:44:32.239 --> 0:44:34.279
<v Speaker 3>Bill par Sales thing. Your record tells you where you are.

0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:39.719
<v Speaker 3>So other than that, it's it's talk. And when talk

0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:42.560
<v Speaker 3>leads to actual belief. I want to go to another

0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:45.200
<v Speaker 3>thing you mentioned here, though, sure as to do with

0:44:45.239 --> 0:44:48.560
<v Speaker 3>my work in preparation. If you look at schools that

0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:54.279
<v Speaker 3>get a new defensive coordinator a new offensive coordinator that

0:44:54.320 --> 0:44:58.120
<v Speaker 3>first year, that team on that cell of the ball

0:44:58.160 --> 0:45:00.520
<v Speaker 3>is probably not going to be that good because you're

0:45:00.520 --> 0:45:02.520
<v Speaker 3>going to see them on the field thinking you're going

0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:05.080
<v Speaker 3>to see him trying to measure it. And if a

0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:08.960
<v Speaker 3>player thinks while they're on the field, they're usually a

0:45:09.040 --> 0:45:13.240
<v Speaker 3>half step late. Especially on defense, you're usually a half

0:45:13.280 --> 0:45:15.719
<v Speaker 3>step late if you think, oh, this is the transition

0:45:15.800 --> 0:45:19.400
<v Speaker 3>from the linebacker to me is the safety. If you

0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 3>prepare long enough and you go through the reps and

0:45:22.040 --> 0:45:24.400
<v Speaker 3>it gets out of your mind and into your loins

0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:27.839
<v Speaker 3>and instinct and gut, then you're reacting. Then the great

0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:31.200
<v Speaker 3>athlete can react within the structure of what they've learned.

0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:33.960
<v Speaker 3>But you don't want a great athlete or me. My job,

0:45:34.000 --> 0:45:35.200
<v Speaker 3>what I do is an acro. I don't want to be.

0:45:35.239 --> 0:45:37.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm not. I do all the preparation. My hard work

0:45:37.840 --> 0:45:41.359
<v Speaker 3>is preseason pre production. When I go to set and

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:45.040
<v Speaker 3>it's game time, one take or twenty takes, whatever it's

0:45:45.120 --> 0:45:49.759
<v Speaker 3>I'm playing, I'm enjoying the playfulness of it. I come

0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:52.360
<v Speaker 3>in loaded, man, I got four versions of the truth

0:45:52.360 --> 0:45:54.080
<v Speaker 3>that I'm going to give you, and you can throw

0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:57.120
<v Speaker 3>anything at me. I'll call an audible in sync. Don't

0:45:57.160 --> 0:46:00.239
<v Speaker 3>even yell cut, Let's go throw it at me. I

0:46:00.280 --> 0:46:02.120
<v Speaker 3>love that's the you know. I want to be off

0:46:02.160 --> 0:46:04.440
<v Speaker 3>balanced and find find my way to getting balanced in

0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:06.480
<v Speaker 3>a scene. That's the same thing with an athlete. You

0:46:06.480 --> 0:46:10.520
<v Speaker 3>don't want athletes out there overthinking stuff. At the same time,

0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:12.439
<v Speaker 3>you got a plan, and that's what the pre season

0:46:12.520 --> 0:46:14.320
<v Speaker 3>is about, or before the season. You want to have

0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:17.080
<v Speaker 3>enough reps to follow through that plan by where by

0:46:17.120 --> 0:46:19.000
<v Speaker 3>the time you were playing on Saturdays, you do not

0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:21.520
<v Speaker 3>even think about it. It's instinctly there.

0:46:22.440 --> 0:46:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I want to go back to that theme of preparation

0:46:25.560 --> 0:46:29.799
<v Speaker 1>though having a plan. There's one story in particular where

0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:34.680
<v Speaker 1>you talk about your early acting career, how you figured

0:46:34.680 --> 0:46:38.319
<v Speaker 1>out the character and there was a four page monologue

0:46:38.360 --> 0:46:40.279
<v Speaker 1>that you didn't know it was a four page monologue,

0:46:40.400 --> 0:46:44.400
<v Speaker 1>or that it was in Spanish, but you were prepared,

0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:46.240
<v Speaker 1>you were loaded for bear to go into this scene.

0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:49.040
<v Speaker 1>And it was one of those moments early on where

0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:51.240
<v Speaker 1>you were a little too cavalier. I got the biggest

0:46:51.320 --> 0:46:52.280
<v Speaker 1>kick out of that story.

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<v Speaker 3>I Yeah, it's one of there's quite a few stories

0:46:55.360 --> 0:46:57.239
<v Speaker 3>in here where I step in s hi T and

0:46:57.280 --> 0:47:00.800
<v Speaker 3>this is one of them. Yeah. I get this bright

0:47:00.880 --> 0:47:07.560
<v Speaker 3>idea that I don't need to study the script. I

0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:09.600
<v Speaker 3>don't need to break down the scene. If I know

0:47:09.719 --> 0:47:12.080
<v Speaker 3>my man and I know the circumstance, I'll just go there,

0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:14.880
<v Speaker 3>press record on the camera, let the camera roll, and

0:47:14.920 --> 0:47:17.279
<v Speaker 3>I'll be my man and do and say what he

0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:21.640
<v Speaker 3>would do. Well, that's a great idea until right before

0:47:21.680 --> 0:47:24.160
<v Speaker 3>the take you look at the script, which I did

0:47:24.360 --> 0:47:28.160
<v Speaker 3>notice a four page monologue in Spanish, and I remember

0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:31.399
<v Speaker 3>the sheer embarrassment and the beat of sweat that came

0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:33.280
<v Speaker 3>up on the back of my head and dripped down.

0:47:33.120 --> 0:47:36.319
<v Speaker 4>My neck, and I was like, oh yeah, And I

0:47:36.400 --> 0:47:39.240
<v Speaker 4>said to no one in particular, give me twelve minutes, please,

0:47:40.040 --> 0:47:43.759
<v Speaker 4>thinking that would be not enough time to inconvenience the crew,

0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:46.880
<v Speaker 4>but also enough time to learn a four page monologue

0:47:46.880 --> 0:47:47.920
<v Speaker 4>in Spanish, because.

0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:50.399
<v Speaker 3>Hey, I took Spanish in my one semester in eleventh grade.

0:47:50.440 --> 0:47:51.040
<v Speaker 1>That's all you need.

0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:56.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, hey, all you need negatory. So it was not

0:47:56.920 --> 0:47:59.880
<v Speaker 3>enough to learn that. And I remember I went and

0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:02.160
<v Speaker 3>at the scene. I didn't let anyone on know, didn't

0:48:02.200 --> 0:48:03.960
<v Speaker 3>let anyone know that I wasn't prepared. I think it

0:48:04.000 --> 0:48:07.640
<v Speaker 3>was probably obvious, but from that day on I said, no,

0:48:08.400 --> 0:48:13.600
<v Speaker 3>you have to work, You have to prepare, You have

0:48:13.680 --> 0:48:17.880
<v Speaker 3>to form the structure to then have the freedom to

0:48:18.000 --> 0:48:22.560
<v Speaker 3>play and do job well. Preparation has been incredibly important

0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:25.160
<v Speaker 3>for me since that date. And I learned a lesson

0:48:25.239 --> 0:48:28.480
<v Speaker 3>the hard way because I had a bright idea that

0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:29.920
<v Speaker 3>was not a prudent one.

0:48:30.680 --> 0:48:33.200
<v Speaker 1>So hold on, what did you do though? Were you

0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:35.560
<v Speaker 1>able to learn some bulk of it in Spanish. How

0:48:35.560 --> 0:48:38.800
<v Speaker 1>did you.

0:48:37.360 --> 0:48:41.279
<v Speaker 3>Embarrassed to watch it? Remember what I did? I don't

0:48:41.280 --> 0:48:43.080
<v Speaker 3>remember what I did. I'm sure it was some half

0:48:43.120 --> 0:48:46.879
<v Speaker 3>as horrible version of your poor Kolo valgo. I'm sure

0:48:46.880 --> 0:48:50.160
<v Speaker 3>it didn't tell like I newstandished really well?

0:48:51.440 --> 0:48:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, I guess to that point. You know, back

0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:56.799
<v Speaker 1>to the book for a second. You do describe the

0:48:56.880 --> 0:49:01.320
<v Speaker 1>process that you seemingly follow to figure out your characters

0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:05.319
<v Speaker 1>before that pre production, that pregame stage of creating any

0:49:05.360 --> 0:49:09.319
<v Speaker 1>kind of motion picture. The first step seemingly is you

0:49:09.360 --> 0:49:11.520
<v Speaker 1>get the script. Once you get the script, you kind

0:49:11.520 --> 0:49:15.520
<v Speaker 1>of craft the persona around your character, and then at

0:49:15.560 --> 0:49:17.960
<v Speaker 1>some point you step into the character. And at that point,

0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:19.640
<v Speaker 1>like I don't want to say, the script goes out

0:49:19.680 --> 0:49:22.200
<v Speaker 1>the window. Obviously it does not. But at that point

0:49:22.200 --> 0:49:25.120
<v Speaker 1>when you kind of merge with the character, that's when

0:49:25.160 --> 0:49:27.360
<v Speaker 1>you take some of those creative liberties that really make.

0:49:27.239 --> 0:49:31.040
<v Speaker 3>You absolutely as good as you are all informed by

0:49:31.280 --> 0:49:35.400
<v Speaker 3>starting with what the script gave me. So you start

0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:38.920
<v Speaker 3>with what is on the page first? What do you

0:49:38.960 --> 0:49:42.480
<v Speaker 3>need to learn? Do that before you go towards the

0:49:42.520 --> 0:49:46.000
<v Speaker 3>imagination or think about improvising or calling audibles. Know the

0:49:46.040 --> 0:49:49.680
<v Speaker 3>playbooks so well that you're confident to call the audible

0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:53.600
<v Speaker 3>when you're in the game. I call it owning my men.

0:49:55.640 --> 0:49:57.960
<v Speaker 3>The writer may write it, the director may be directing it,

0:49:58.040 --> 0:50:00.680
<v Speaker 3>but I need to get to a point where I

0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:06.160
<v Speaker 3>own that character. I'm the boss of that character. And

0:50:06.440 --> 0:50:10.640
<v Speaker 3>a good director wants his actors to go take ownership.

0:50:10.760 --> 0:50:15.880
<v Speaker 3>You're the bloodline, take it and run. Mac Brown wants

0:50:15.960 --> 0:50:17.920
<v Speaker 3>Vince Young to come over to the sideline and go

0:50:19.440 --> 0:50:23.000
<v Speaker 3>give me the bo I got this. We're you know,

0:50:23.120 --> 0:50:25.759
<v Speaker 3>we're yeah, I know that's the play. But I'm calling

0:50:25.760 --> 0:50:28.200
<v Speaker 3>an audible the line because I see something. You want a

0:50:28.239 --> 0:50:31.400
<v Speaker 3>player to take that ownership. But if it's based off

0:50:31.480 --> 0:50:34.799
<v Speaker 3>of what is the general plan, what's the structure, if

0:50:34.840 --> 0:50:39.160
<v Speaker 3>it's within a good improviser only improvise all the things

0:50:39.800 --> 0:50:42.160
<v Speaker 3>I'll improvise or make up when I'm doing it well,

0:50:42.760 --> 0:50:46.640
<v Speaker 3>is based off of the structure, in the context of

0:50:46.880 --> 0:50:48.960
<v Speaker 3>the plan on the page and who the man is

0:50:49.000 --> 0:50:51.560
<v Speaker 3>on the page. I'm not just making stuff up. It's

0:50:51.600 --> 0:50:55.880
<v Speaker 3>all coming out of the inventory of the study and

0:50:55.920 --> 0:50:58.640
<v Speaker 3>that I've already done, and not just so you can

0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:03.279
<v Speaker 3>see people improvise and scenes and it may seem like, oh,

0:51:03.320 --> 0:51:05.600
<v Speaker 3>that was really clever and good. But sometimes you go,

0:51:06.080 --> 0:51:08.839
<v Speaker 3>but that really isn't what the character would do. Oh,

0:51:08.840 --> 0:51:10.239
<v Speaker 3>that was a kind of a one off scene. You

0:51:10.239 --> 0:51:12.920
<v Speaker 3>see in comedies a lot. There are some great improvisers.

0:51:13.040 --> 0:51:14.960
<v Speaker 3>Some of them do it really well, and they improvise

0:51:15.120 --> 0:51:17.239
<v Speaker 3>within the context of who their character is and the

0:51:17.320 --> 0:51:20.399
<v Speaker 3>relationship with whoever they're in the scene with. Sometimes you'll

0:51:20.400 --> 0:51:23.960
<v Speaker 3>see comedians go off and improvise a scene. You're like, oh,

0:51:24.080 --> 0:51:26.400
<v Speaker 3>they've had that skit written and they were just looking

0:51:26.400 --> 0:51:28.400
<v Speaker 3>for a place to put it in a movie, and

0:51:28.440 --> 0:51:31.160
<v Speaker 3>they just ripped it off and did it. And while

0:51:31.200 --> 0:51:32.920
<v Speaker 3>it may be funny in the moment, you may go

0:51:33.080 --> 0:51:35.600
<v Speaker 3>after the movie it really wasn't true to the guy

0:51:35.719 --> 0:51:37.560
<v Speaker 3>or true to the relationship that the person had in

0:51:37.560 --> 0:51:40.919
<v Speaker 3>the movie. So it needs to be with all improvisation,

0:51:41.120 --> 0:51:43.440
<v Speaker 3>all audibles need to be within the context of the

0:51:43.480 --> 0:51:44.200
<v Speaker 3>original plan.

0:51:45.800 --> 0:51:49.000
<v Speaker 1>So with that said being so, this is a show

0:51:49.040 --> 0:51:51.880
<v Speaker 1>that airs on a Friday, and on Fridays here on

0:51:51.920 --> 0:51:55.040
<v Speaker 1>the Cliverbal we do a weird space themed college football show.

0:51:55.600 --> 0:51:58.280
<v Speaker 1>You were in a movie called Interstellar where you played

0:51:59.080 --> 0:52:03.879
<v Speaker 1>astronautical traveler. How on God's Green Earth did you plan

0:52:03.960 --> 0:52:06.120
<v Speaker 1>for your role as a galactic traveler, because there aren't

0:52:06.120 --> 0:52:08.040
<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of real world reference points that you

0:52:08.080 --> 0:52:08.799
<v Speaker 1>can go off there.

0:52:09.160 --> 0:52:12.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah right, I mean one. I went to Chris Nolan,

0:52:12.400 --> 0:52:16.480
<v Speaker 3>a lot who he creates these conceptual worlds. So I

0:52:16.520 --> 0:52:18.359
<v Speaker 3>went to him like and I said, like, what's give

0:52:18.360 --> 0:52:22.160
<v Speaker 3>me the rules here? How does time move here? Where

0:52:22.160 --> 0:52:24.799
<v Speaker 3>are we what's gravity like, etcetera. I'm the lead astronaut.

0:52:24.800 --> 0:52:27.360
<v Speaker 3>I need to know this for the survival and the

0:52:27.400 --> 0:52:31.240
<v Speaker 3>success of our mission. He didn't always have the answers.

0:52:31.280 --> 0:52:33.680
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes you go, that's a good question, I'm not quite

0:52:33.719 --> 0:52:35.480
<v Speaker 3>sure what the rules are. And he'd come back to

0:52:35.520 --> 0:52:36.759
<v Speaker 3>me though a week later and go, you know, I

0:52:36.760 --> 0:52:38.319
<v Speaker 3>thought about what you asked me, and we go over

0:52:38.360 --> 0:52:39.920
<v Speaker 3>it and kind of hash it out to where I

0:52:39.920 --> 0:52:43.040
<v Speaker 3>could have some sound information understand the rules of engagement

0:52:43.120 --> 0:52:49.120
<v Speaker 3>with the world he created. You know. That was different

0:52:49.280 --> 0:52:52.640
<v Speaker 3>than say, like my role in Contact, where I played

0:52:52.640 --> 0:52:55.960
<v Speaker 3>a believer in the world of science, and coming away

0:52:55.960 --> 0:52:58.080
<v Speaker 3>from that movie, it was like, oh, you know what,

0:52:58.640 --> 0:53:01.040
<v Speaker 3>as a believer, God's back yards bigger than I thought

0:53:01.080 --> 0:53:05.120
<v Speaker 3>it was, And it opened my eyes to think of

0:53:05.600 --> 0:53:09.000
<v Speaker 3>more places than just earths as the backyard that we're

0:53:09.040 --> 0:53:13.440
<v Speaker 3>all living in Interstellar was more, you know, in some

0:53:13.480 --> 0:53:17.879
<v Speaker 3>ways more personal in that the questions like, what would

0:53:17.880 --> 0:53:20.120
<v Speaker 3>you do if you if you went and time ran

0:53:20.160 --> 0:53:22.640
<v Speaker 3>a different at a different pace and your your kids

0:53:22.640 --> 0:53:26.239
<v Speaker 3>had grown up and you missed their childhood because you're

0:53:26.239 --> 0:53:28.800
<v Speaker 3>in a different time lapse and time ran at the universe?

0:53:30.040 --> 0:53:33.279
<v Speaker 3>Is that worth sacrificing? And what are what are the

0:53:33.320 --> 0:53:37.279
<v Speaker 3>consequences of that? So other than other than that, I

0:53:37.360 --> 0:53:39.560
<v Speaker 3>was able to get very personal with Cooper and then

0:53:39.600 --> 0:53:41.560
<v Speaker 3>try to just understand what the hell is the rules

0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:43.759
<v Speaker 3>in this Tesseract? What does it mean? What does it

0:53:43.800 --> 0:53:45.719
<v Speaker 3>mean when I were on Saturn here? How does time

0:53:45.800 --> 0:53:48.600
<v Speaker 3>move differently? So I can understand what the decisions are

0:53:48.600 --> 0:53:50.280
<v Speaker 3>going to cost me as the character.

0:53:51.120 --> 0:53:53.600
<v Speaker 2>One of the things we hate, and this does tie back,

0:53:53.680 --> 0:53:55.359
<v Speaker 2>I trust me. One of the things we hate as

0:53:55.400 --> 0:54:00.400
<v Speaker 2>college football fans is watching coaches get comfortable, watching coaches

0:54:00.520 --> 0:54:04.640
<v Speaker 2>stay stubborn, watching coaches do what sort of they believe

0:54:04.800 --> 0:54:06.840
<v Speaker 2>to be. Well, this is what people expect of me.

0:54:07.360 --> 0:54:10.759
<v Speaker 2>It was fascinating to hear you've talked about romantic comedies

0:54:10.920 --> 0:54:13.560
<v Speaker 2>and how you felt pigeonholed. You felt that this is

0:54:13.600 --> 0:54:15.319
<v Speaker 2>how you were going to be viewed. This is how

0:54:15.320 --> 0:54:17.919
<v Speaker 2>you felt. Everybody said, well, this is what he does,

0:54:17.920 --> 0:54:20.319
<v Speaker 2>and you just stopped doing those and you never would

0:54:20.320 --> 0:54:22.560
<v Speaker 2>have ended up in a movie like Interstellar. You never

0:54:22.560 --> 0:54:24.440
<v Speaker 2>would have ended up in Dallas Buyer's Club, any of

0:54:24.480 --> 0:54:26.759
<v Speaker 2>these movies that are incredibly well regarded.

0:54:27.320 --> 0:54:27.880
<v Speaker 3>What did did?

0:54:28.040 --> 0:54:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Was that a difficult thing because of obviously financial ramifications,

0:54:31.960 --> 0:54:33.919
<v Speaker 2>and you had made it, you were a movie star.

0:54:34.160 --> 0:54:37.879
<v Speaker 2>What did it take for you to fully sprint out

0:54:37.880 --> 0:54:39.160
<v Speaker 2>of your comfort Zoneah?

0:54:39.200 --> 0:54:41.279
<v Speaker 3>Well, first of all, hell yeah, it was difficult. One

0:54:41.320 --> 0:54:43.120
<v Speaker 3>of the most difficult decisions I've ever made my life.

0:54:43.160 --> 0:54:46.279
<v Speaker 3>I was at the time of my career where I

0:54:46.600 --> 0:54:49.319
<v Speaker 3>was the go to guy for rom Coms and they

0:54:49.360 --> 0:54:52.759
<v Speaker 3>paid me handsomely and I was shirtless on the beach.

0:54:52.800 --> 0:54:54.880
<v Speaker 3>You damn right. Those rom Coms paid the rent of

0:54:54.920 --> 0:54:58.959
<v Speaker 3>the houses on the beaches where I ran shirtless. Guilty, Yes, sir,

0:54:59.160 --> 0:55:03.640
<v Speaker 3>that was me choice. So you know, it's also not

0:55:03.680 --> 0:55:05.800
<v Speaker 3>fair to say, oh, that was you, But now the

0:55:05.880 --> 0:55:08.080
<v Speaker 3>real you comes up. No, that was me as well,

0:55:08.520 --> 0:55:12.799
<v Speaker 3>And what I've been doing is also me. But the

0:55:12.840 --> 0:55:14.480
<v Speaker 3>things that I've been doing over the last twelve years,

0:55:14.560 --> 0:55:16.880
<v Speaker 3>these dramas you bring up those are not getting offered

0:55:16.880 --> 0:55:21.920
<v Speaker 3>me at that time. So while I was fully happy

0:55:21.960 --> 0:55:26.120
<v Speaker 3>and straight faced about the life I was living in

0:55:26.200 --> 0:55:29.239
<v Speaker 3>rom Comms and loved my job and stuff, they had

0:55:29.280 --> 0:55:31.640
<v Speaker 3>pigeonholed me to where that's the only thing I was

0:55:31.640 --> 0:55:35.000
<v Speaker 3>getting offered. So I decided, if I can't do what

0:55:35.040 --> 0:55:36.640
<v Speaker 3>I want to do, I'm going to stop doing what

0:55:36.680 --> 0:55:39.200
<v Speaker 3>I've been doing. And I talked about this in the

0:55:39.200 --> 0:55:41.880
<v Speaker 3>book the process of elimination. If we can't do what

0:55:41.880 --> 0:55:43.200
<v Speaker 3>we want to do or we don't know what we

0:55:43.239 --> 0:55:45.839
<v Speaker 3>want to do or who we are, eliminate the things

0:55:45.840 --> 0:55:49.160
<v Speaker 3>we're not, and by process of elimination, we'll end up

0:55:49.160 --> 0:55:51.600
<v Speaker 3>with the things that feed us and tell us who

0:55:51.640 --> 0:55:55.000
<v Speaker 3>we are in front of us. Well, I checked my

0:55:55.040 --> 0:55:57.120
<v Speaker 3>money manager. I said, I'm going to stop doing rom Comms.

0:55:57.160 --> 0:55:58.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how long I'll go with that work.

0:55:59.400 --> 0:56:01.680
<v Speaker 3>Have a saved money? He said, you saved your money, Well,

0:56:01.800 --> 0:56:03.960
<v Speaker 3>you can afford it. I checked with my wife, I

0:56:04.040 --> 0:56:06.000
<v Speaker 3>checked my agent. I shed many a tear on my

0:56:06.000 --> 0:56:08.799
<v Speaker 3>wife's shoulder. Going, I may not work. I don't know

0:56:08.840 --> 0:56:10.239
<v Speaker 3>for how long. I don't know how long I'll be

0:56:10.280 --> 0:56:12.680
<v Speaker 3>in a trout. Well, it was a twenty month trout,

0:56:13.120 --> 0:56:17.640
<v Speaker 3>no work, nothing came in. I was forgotten by Hollywood.

0:56:18.520 --> 0:56:21.080
<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, I wasn't in the theater

0:56:21.280 --> 0:56:23.480
<v Speaker 3>or in your living room in a rom com. You

0:56:23.520 --> 0:56:26.920
<v Speaker 3>didn't see me on the beach shirtless anymore. So after

0:56:27.040 --> 0:56:31.480
<v Speaker 3>twenty months of no work, I became a new, fresh novel,

0:56:31.719 --> 0:56:36.239
<v Speaker 3>good idea for those dramatic roles that I was looking for,

0:56:36.280 --> 0:56:38.200
<v Speaker 3>and boy, as soon as it came my way, I

0:56:38.440 --> 0:56:44.360
<v Speaker 3>ferociously attacked him. So I unbranded to rebrand. You know,

0:56:44.440 --> 0:56:46.799
<v Speaker 3>sometimes we don't not sure what the new game plan is.

0:56:47.160 --> 0:56:50.560
<v Speaker 3>Stop doing the old one and press reset, you know

0:56:50.600 --> 0:56:54.560
<v Speaker 3>what I mean. Remove yourself from from old habits and

0:56:54.600 --> 0:56:57.799
<v Speaker 3>then you will, hopefully, you know, the ones that the

0:56:57.880 --> 0:56:59.759
<v Speaker 3>new habits you want to you want to partake in,

0:57:00.239 --> 0:57:04.280
<v Speaker 3>will reveal themselves. And sometimes that's by just being away

0:57:04.680 --> 0:57:07.040
<v Speaker 3>and out of the picture. And that's what it was

0:57:07.080 --> 0:57:07.880
<v Speaker 3>for me at that time.

0:57:08.320 --> 0:57:11.080
<v Speaker 2>And now you're away and in Austin. You're not in Malibu,

0:57:11.120 --> 0:57:13.160
<v Speaker 2>you're not in la you're not in Hollywood. You're in Austin.

0:57:13.480 --> 0:57:15.840
<v Speaker 2>And to bring it full circle, because we talked about

0:57:15.840 --> 0:57:20.120
<v Speaker 2>you as a hypothetical recruit, we talked about ut I'm

0:57:20.160 --> 0:57:22.120
<v Speaker 2>not going to say this in the context of a recruit.

0:57:22.160 --> 0:57:24.520
<v Speaker 2>But let's say I. Let's say I Dan Rubinstein am

0:57:24.520 --> 0:57:29.120
<v Speaker 2>coming to Austin for UT, Oklahoma State, UT, TCU, whatever.

0:57:29.800 --> 0:57:33.520
<v Speaker 2>If you are mapping out the perfect Austin college football weekend,

0:57:34.520 --> 0:57:36.320
<v Speaker 2>what is your itinerary? What are we doing?

0:57:36.320 --> 0:57:36.919
<v Speaker 3>What are we eating?

0:57:37.360 --> 0:57:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Where we hiking?

0:57:38.520 --> 0:57:41.560
<v Speaker 3>Well, the perfect weekend is Look, I've got, you know,

0:57:42.360 --> 0:57:46.480
<v Speaker 3>a box there where my family goes. I prefer the sidelines.

0:57:46.560 --> 0:57:49.480
<v Speaker 3>I like to see that eye level and see those

0:57:49.520 --> 0:57:51.680
<v Speaker 3>young men, look them in the eye, and be down

0:57:51.680 --> 0:57:53.200
<v Speaker 3>there where I can break and break a sweat as

0:57:53.200 --> 0:57:58.080
<v Speaker 3>well with them. The tailgate. We're gonna gonna matter what

0:57:58.120 --> 0:58:00.680
<v Speaker 3>time the game starts Saturday, hopefully it's later afternoon, so

0:58:00.680 --> 0:58:02.600
<v Speaker 3>we can go ahead and revel in on Friday night

0:58:02.640 --> 0:58:05.600
<v Speaker 3>and get get loosened up. Where we're going tomorrow's game.

0:58:05.720 --> 0:58:08.280
<v Speaker 3>What are we doing for? Well, we're me. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>probably hang at my house and I'm gonna be cooking

0:58:10.960 --> 0:58:16.360
<v Speaker 3>inch and five eight ribbis rub right there, and there's

0:58:16.360 --> 0:58:18.360
<v Speaker 3>gonna be some music plaanning. We're gonna be getting ready.

0:58:18.520 --> 0:58:20.640
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna enjoy the night and talk about things. And

0:58:20.720 --> 0:58:24.480
<v Speaker 3>then tomorrow morning it's game time early at my house.

0:58:25.760 --> 0:58:28.640
<v Speaker 3>We're getting in the zone pretty early and to get

0:58:28.640 --> 0:58:31.480
<v Speaker 3>focused and hopefully that our focus is reverberating all the

0:58:31.520 --> 0:58:34.720
<v Speaker 3>way through the city and that the whole city's focus

0:58:34.760 --> 0:58:38.040
<v Speaker 3>is reverberating to the team to where today when we

0:58:38.080 --> 0:58:40.680
<v Speaker 3>go to the game, this is the place to be

0:58:41.040 --> 0:58:43.880
<v Speaker 3>on the planet, and we got to be there and

0:58:44.680 --> 0:58:46.840
<v Speaker 3>we are you know, A and M's got the name

0:58:46.920 --> 0:58:48.720
<v Speaker 3>twelfth man, but we have how can we be the

0:58:48.760 --> 0:58:53.600
<v Speaker 3>twelfth Man? I've seen crowds actually help will teams. I've

0:58:53.640 --> 0:58:56.160
<v Speaker 3>seen we talked earlier about the mind of the eighteen

0:58:56.200 --> 0:58:59.200
<v Speaker 3>to twenty two year old sometimes the fatigue keeps it

0:58:59.280 --> 0:59:02.000
<v Speaker 3>from being a self starter in that fourth quarter to

0:59:02.080 --> 0:59:03.880
<v Speaker 3>find to dig in and find that actually a lot

0:59:03.920 --> 0:59:06.600
<v Speaker 3>of times a crowd can help that. I'm amazed at

0:59:06.640 --> 0:59:09.320
<v Speaker 3>how much players let you know how much a crowd

0:59:09.320 --> 0:59:13.439
<v Speaker 3>has helped them out at certain times. So we get there.

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<v Speaker 3>The only game in town, the only game in the

0:59:15.520 --> 0:59:18.040
<v Speaker 3>planet is right there. The only color in our stidium

0:59:18.120 --> 0:59:20.000
<v Speaker 3>is going to be burnt orange. If we get out

0:59:20.040 --> 0:59:21.600
<v Speaker 3>of the early. We've got a few good places to

0:59:21.640 --> 0:59:23.919
<v Speaker 3>go to tailgate for sure, to get a good get

0:59:23.920 --> 0:59:26.400
<v Speaker 3>some meal, on us, and before we get to the game,

0:59:26.840 --> 0:59:28.840
<v Speaker 3>you probably be in the box. I may go down.

0:59:29.040 --> 0:59:31.520
<v Speaker 3>I'll kiss everybody good bye. I'm going down on the sideline.

0:59:31.560 --> 0:59:33.479
<v Speaker 3>We'll see you after the game, hopefully it's a victory.

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<v Speaker 3>Well after we see is of Texas and we'll move

0:59:36.360 --> 0:59:40.440
<v Speaker 3>on and victory. We'll now go continue to celebrate our

0:59:41.240 --> 0:59:42.200
<v Speaker 3>victory afterwards.

0:59:42.440 --> 0:59:43.640
<v Speaker 2>Where's that is that? Your house?

0:59:43.760 --> 0:59:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Is?

0:59:43.840 --> 0:59:44.960
<v Speaker 2>That is that town?

0:59:45.680 --> 0:59:49.120
<v Speaker 3>After that, after a long day of football combined with

0:59:49.160 --> 0:59:52.280
<v Speaker 3>the night before, I usually go for something a little

0:59:52.880 --> 0:59:55.640
<v Speaker 3>a little lighter. There's a place we'll go by Uchi

0:59:55.680 --> 0:59:57.560
<v Speaker 3>or Uchi Coo, and we're gonna have a nice, nice

0:59:57.600 --> 1:00:01.320
<v Speaker 3>sushi sushi dinner. Because we loaded up on our heavy

1:00:01.400 --> 1:00:03.760
<v Speaker 3>duty carbs all day long and last night as well,

1:00:04.480 --> 1:00:06.959
<v Speaker 3>so we'll go have a sushi dinner. Then if we've

1:00:06.960 --> 1:00:09.360
<v Speaker 3>got a good gig in town, live music, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>go check that out. And guess what, I've got a driver.

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<v Speaker 3>He's gonna take us in a bus. Everyone drink up.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have to drive. We're gonna go do that

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<v Speaker 3>and get everyone back. And then Sunday we'll ease in

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<v Speaker 3>and easy to the today, sleep in. Don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll actually slip by the eleven o'clock church service at

1:00:29.960 --> 1:00:31.840
<v Speaker 3>our church, which is just a mile down the road.

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<v Speaker 3>Great go atone for our sins if we got them,

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<v Speaker 3>we be sure we did, and get ready for the

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<v Speaker 3>week and get ready to do it all over again.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll send you my confirmation number. The breakfast tacos are

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<v Speaker 2>on me. I'm ready heard all right again.

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<v Speaker 1>His name is Matthew McConaughey. His memoir Green Lights. It

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<v Speaker 1>is available now. We're going to link it up in

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<v Speaker 1>our show notes. Go out buy it. He's holding it up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great read. Like I said, I practically read it, Matthew,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a really really good.

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<v Speaker 2>Fantastic well done.

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<v Speaker 1>This has been a true pleasure. We wish you nothing

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<v Speaker 1>but the best with the book and with all your endeavors,

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<v Speaker 1>and stop by any time you want.

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<v Speaker 3>I dig it. Appreciate it, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Take care. Okay, Daniel, there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, I'm inspired, Ty, I've been reading the book. Who

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<v Speaker 2>It's great.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a bucket list interview for us. I am

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<v Speaker 1>super pumped that we were finally able to pull that off.

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<v Speaker 1>We thank mister McConaughey for being so gracious with this

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<v Speaker 1>time and what again, urge everybody to go on out

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<v Speaker 1>there and check out Green Lights. The book we got

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<v Speaker 1>the link in the show notes really a collection of

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<v Speaker 1>deeply personal stories about Matthew's life, how he got to

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<v Speaker 1>where he is today, and just a an eclectic mix

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<v Speaker 1>of life experiences that I think you can certainly find inspiration.

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<v Speaker 2>While I'm still opted out of emotionally investing myself into

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<v Speaker 2>Texas football, you picked a really.

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<v Speaker 1>Weird time to opt out, knowing that this interview is

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<v Speaker 1>on the horizon.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm emotionally, I'm more emotionally invested than I ever was

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<v Speaker 2>in Matthew McConaughey's career. And like, true, So that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I That's where I'm taking that investment. And also I

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<v Speaker 2>will celebrate like it's the birth of my own child

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<v Speaker 2>if Texas were not only to win a national championship,

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<v Speaker 2>but we get you remember what j R. Smith did

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<v Speaker 2>after Cleveland won finally the lebron Remember he goes shirtless

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<v Speaker 2>in a parade. Yeah, feels like that's on the horizon.

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<v Speaker 2>If Texas is able to mount that full come back,

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<v Speaker 2>Matthew McConaughey is going to be a joy in However,

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<v Speaker 2>he celebrates.

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<v Speaker 1>However, he celebrates. I think that's that's a parent in

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<v Speaker 1>our interview this evening.

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<v Speaker 2>So have you seen Magic Mike?

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>A good movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Magic Mike is really good. It's a good movie, really

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<v Speaker 2>good movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Watch it with my mom, which was a little that

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<v Speaker 1>was different, that was not not not.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a pretty early yeah with Olivia Munn Is that

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<v Speaker 2>who it was?

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<v Speaker 3>It was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was definitely not the movie watching experience that I

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<v Speaker 1>was looking to get, but it was a good I

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<v Speaker 1>like the movie, movie is really good.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I would like to know what Mama H's

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<v Speaker 2>reaction was in watching that movie. Obviously you cannot tell

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<v Speaker 2>me because it's so specific, but what her reaction was

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<v Speaker 2>when McConaughey gets on stage near the beginning of the

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<v Speaker 2>movie and those leather chaps tie and says the las says,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no touch in but I see a la la

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<v Speaker 2>breakers out there. I'd like to see how Mama H

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<v Speaker 2>reacted it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a different experience for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm, yeah, okay, I'm just I'm just making sure

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<v Speaker 2>I I couldn't be happier with how I was from

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<v Speaker 2>McConaughey on the show. That was fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Give us an email saw Verbal at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>out every Friday. Daniel. Right, just talk about what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on in the college football world, what we're reading in

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<v Speaker 1>some cases, what we're eating, and last, but certainly not least,

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<v Speaker 1>as you are watching all of the action this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Give us a phone call at for zero eight verbal one,

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<v Speaker 1>that is four O eight eight three seven two two

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<v Speaker 1>five one, and let us know stream of consciousness, as

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<v Speaker 1>you're watching the games, what's your reaction, what's your real

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<v Speaker 1>time feedback? We will mash those together into a segment

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<v Speaker 1>we like to call the reverbs, and we will play

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<v Speaker 1>it for all y'all on our Reaction Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I ask you a question? This is just a

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<v Speaker 2>guess from you. I wanted to asked McConaughey this, but

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<v Speaker 2>we sort of ran out of time. He was already

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<v Speaker 2>so generous with this time. He gave us about forty

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<v Speaker 2>five minutes. Right, Yeah, what are the chances to you,

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<v Speaker 2>because McConaughey has a died in the wool burnt Orange

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<v Speaker 2>Texas diehard. What are the odds to you that he

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<v Speaker 2>has a burner account on I looked it up right now,

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<v Speaker 2>Horns twenty four to seven. Now obviously get all of

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<v Speaker 2>the recruiting scoop he wants. He's friends and works alongside.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he's in the Athletic Department building with Tom

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<v Speaker 2>Herman and Chrystal Conte, and he can text any of

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<v Speaker 2>the players. He can text any of the status when.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure he knew about the quinn Ewers thing days ago.

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<v Speaker 1>But he just because he's a movie star doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>that he's not on message boards.

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<v Speaker 2>It's got to monitor the vibe.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gotta be fifty to fifty. I would a fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say there's a seventy two percent chance he

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<v Speaker 2>has a burner on either Horns two four seven or

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<v Speaker 2>some deeply secret Texas recruiting message board. I have to

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<v Speaker 2>if next time Robert Gates with A and M. I

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<v Speaker 2>remember the Dennis Franchione newsletter. There was definitely a Secretary

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<v Speaker 2>of Defense who had to out himself or was outed

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<v Speaker 2>for a Texas A and m message board membership. I

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<v Speaker 2>remember there was a potential judge a couple of years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>a nominated judge who did not believe secure the nomination,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was outed for his Alabama message board exploits.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think seventy two percent seventy two plus percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Mcconaey has a paywall recruiting burner account.

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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, Solidverbal at gmail dot com. Subscribe to the

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<v Speaker 2>Confirm that when I go to Austin for my magical

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<v Speaker 2>college football weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we'll be back in a few days to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about all the college triple action. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for playing along with us, for downloading and supporting

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<v Speaker 1>In the meantime, Stay solid Ultra Megastar Friday Orbit Peace,