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Speaker 1: a liftof Welcome back to the solid verbal Friday Orbit Show.

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Speaker 1: My name is ty Hildebrandt, joining me as always over

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Speaker 1: there in Chicago, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, Sir, how

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Speaker 2: I am ready for an intergalactic ride of a lifetime

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Speaker 2: on this UFO episode, Tye, That's how I am. We

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Speaker 2: We do it every Friday. We're a college football show.

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Speaker 1: But we take on a weird kind of space quasi

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Speaker 1: theme on these Friday episodes. Ultramegastar Friday Orbit is what

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Speaker 1: we're I think going with today.

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Speaker 2: Right, somehow an e been more mega, more ultrastar than

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Speaker 2: Eastern PA's Ty hilden brand is appearing. I mean, you

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Speaker 2: were just recognized in a Wegmans. It's true, fair, it

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Speaker 2: the stars aligned tie space term and we are as

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Speaker 2: you know because you've seen the episode title. We are

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Speaker 2: incredibly thrilled and honored to welcome in angels in the

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Speaker 2: outfield's own Matthew McConaughey.

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Speaker 1: Angels in the Outfield, Dallas Buyers wrote, credit Magic, Mike,

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Speaker 1: A Time to Kill Interstellar. The list goes on and on.

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Speaker 1: Matthew McConaughey has been in a bunch of cool movies

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Speaker 1: and he's obviously the Minister of Culture down there at

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Speaker 1: the University of Texas. Huge Longhorns fan. We are so

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Speaker 1: of cool stuff to talk about with him, including his

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Speaker 1: new memoir, which we'll link up in the show notes

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Speaker 1: called green Lights. I did have the good fortune to

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Speaker 1: read it. It's really good, really an.

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Speaker 2: Of crazy stories, worth a read, and we're crazy excited

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Speaker 1: Before we go any further, we also want to talk

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Speaker 1: about what we are doing on Halloween. Dan, give me

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Speaker 1: we're doing what we're calling the Solid Verbal live scream

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Speaker 1: at seven pm Eastern on Halloween Saturday night, shortly before

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Speaker 1: the Penn State Ohio State game. Will be doing it

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Speaker 1: for our Patreon subscribers. Will be on Discord answering questions

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Speaker 1: as we're doing our live stream. We're obviously going to

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Speaker 1: Don't know if we'll be able to make that happen

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Speaker 1: the breaking news, breaking news, breaking news. Three things to

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Speaker 2: I cannot wait joining us now.

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Speaker 1: It's a gentleman we've wanted to have on the show

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Speaker 1: the one and only Matthew McConaughey, Sir, Welcome to the

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Speaker 3: Dan, Tom doing relatively pretty well? How are y'all doing?

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, fantastic.

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Speaker 1: We are doing well. So we're obviously going to talk

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Speaker 1: congratulations on the book green Lights. I see the hat.

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Speaker 3: one of the best dramas I've ever seen, and it

433
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Speaker 3: was live. So that's that's some of the stuff I

434
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Speaker 3: love about it.

435
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Speaker 2: What would it have taken for you? You were not

436
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Speaker 2: a college football recruit when you were talking about SMU

437
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 2: VERSUS Texas. Yeah, if you were a college football recruit,

438
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 2: what is in the seventeen or eighteen year old Matthew

439
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 2: McConaughey's mind that would have unlocked him to get him

440
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 2: to Texas, USC cal Florida State. What would have swayed

441
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 2: you at that moment?

442
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 3: Well, one, I think my legs would need to be

443
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 3: about two inches longer.

444
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 2: Well, in the hypothetical that you are a five star

445
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 2: Our Blue cheperd Crew, what.

446
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 3: Would have gotten me to go play? Well, you know,

447
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 3: my dad played at University of Kentucky unto Bear Bryant.

448
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 3: He had a falling out with him, transferred to Houston,

449
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 3: and then got drafted by the Green Bay Packers. He

450
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 3: let me tell you this story about football. He came

451
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 3: to us and we were you know, I grew up

452
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 3: in Texas. My brothers and I all played football up

453
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 3: to a certain level. I remember being very nervous. And

454
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 3: this story is not in the book, but I remember

455
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 3: being very nervous about telling him I didn't want to

456
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 3: play football in high school. And I called him back

457
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 3: from my room and tell him. And I was nervous

458
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 3: and I told him, and he goes, oh, great, great idea, buddy.

459
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 3: I told him I wanted to play golf, and he goes, great,

460
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 3: play golf. You can play that too. You go down.

461
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 3: I go, Dad, why are you so? Why is he?

462
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 3: Why are you so amendable to this idea? He goes,

463
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 3: you know, how can you tell it's me coming to

464
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 3: your room before I get there? I go, yeah, yes, sir,

465
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 3: And he goes, how can you tell? I said, I

466
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 3: can hear you. He goes, what do you hear? I

467
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 3: go out here, Bob. He goes, yeah, man, I gotta

468
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 3: played in here. I got screwed in here. He goes

469
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 3: play golf, you'll play it til you go down. I

470
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 3: would have been a good linebacker, That's my mentality, meaning

471
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 3: that spot on defense that has to do with speed

472
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 3: and power and really putting your nose in it and

473
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 3: reading an offense in the middle of the field is

474
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Speaker 3: where I would have where I mentally excel. Meaning when

475
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 3: I played baseball, I was an all star catcher. When

476
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 3: I played soccer, I was an all star goalie. I

477
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 3: love defense, and that place in linebacker was where I

478
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 3: thought my body was going to go to give me

479
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 3: the ability to play. And then I got kind of

480
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 3: my growth kind of got stumped around the eighth ninth

481
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 3: grade and where I was bigger before now I wasn't bigger,

482
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 3: but I also didn't have the speed, so I would

483
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 3: have played linebacker. My favorite one of my favorite football

484
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 3: players growing up as a guy in Hall of Famer named

485
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 3: Chris Hanburger for what is now called the Washington football team,

486
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 3: and his deal was he could hit you at the

487
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage, have you completely wrapped up. He may

488
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 3: give you two extra yards past that, but he loved

489
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 3: to grab you and throw you down and then stand

490
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 3: over you and go, look, see I didn't go down

491
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 3: the ground with you. And he may give you two

492
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 3: extra yards on that, but I loved I. I have

493
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 3: a linebacker's mentality, and I've carried that linebacker's mentality throughout

494
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 3: my life and it's helped me in my own career.

495
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Speaker 2: You now have, well, you have a couple roles at

496
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 2: the University of Texas. Obviously, the Minister of Culture thing

497
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 2: has been well written about and it's well known at

498
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 2: this point. Also, you teach a class at UT, and

499
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 2: your class is your background. It's film studies, it's you know,

500
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 2: from the screen to the studio, all sorts of things

501
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 2: that you have decades of experience, and you didn't have

502
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 2: experience in college sports. This is a foreign industry to you.

503
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 2: Where does the confidence come from within you to go

504
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 2: to UT and say I have ideas, I have thoughts, Yeah,

505
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 2: I am committed. Where does that confidence come from?

506
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 3: Well, the same values and business. Part of my work

507
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 3: as a Mister of Culture trying to align the same

508
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 3: values that look the same values. It takes to have

509
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 3: a championship team on the field or in the pool,

510
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 3: or on the on the pitch or or on the course.

511
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 3: The same values for championships. There are the same values

512
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 3: that it takes for students who are not athletes to

513
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,479
Speaker 3: go and succeed and do the best they can and

514
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 3: succeed in business. So I want to align those values

515
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 3: and how do how do we maintain and make sure

516
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 3: we are still becoming even more so a university that's

517
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 3: not only putting champions out on the field in a sport,

518
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 3: but also putting champions out into life as civilians, in

519
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 3: the workplaces, as individuals. So, you know, I'm now fifty.

520
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 3: You know the class that I teach, it was it

521
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 3: was a very I remember the time I was sitting there.

522
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 3: I would always go talk to the students in film

523
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,959
Speaker 3: classes long before the class got started, and they started

524
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 3: to be like really really interested in what I was

525
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 3: saying and take notes and tell me that was so

526
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,959
Speaker 3: awesome that with knowledge you dropped on so and I

527
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 3: was like, in my mind, really, I just took that

528
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 3: for granted. I thought everyone knew that, and I always

529
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 3: felt like I was just here in college like four

530
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 3: years ago. Well, no, it's been a little bit longer

531
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 3: than that. So I realized, oh, I put together a

532
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 3: career and gained experience that is worth sharing. And actually

533
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 3: then I got the confidence say well, let's create a

534
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 3: class because I may take it for granted, but I

535
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 3: have a lot of experience that these students, these serious

536
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 3: film students do not have. And then I thought about

537
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 3: what is the class I would have wanted? What is

538
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 3: the class I wish they would have had for me

539
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 3: when I was at films, And it was this, how

540
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 3: does an original script get to screen? Many many changes

541
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 3: and adaptations along the way. So in our class, we

542
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,719
Speaker 3: chronologically follow the journey as script takes to get to screen,

543
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 3: and we show you the science behind the magic of

544
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 3: movie making and storytelling.

545
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: And the college sports element. Where do you get the

546
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 2: confidence to say I have ideas that college apfter fleets

547
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 2: need to hear well.

548
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 3: For instance, you know I don't know how to go

549
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 3: you know, run better. I don't know how to go

550
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 3: better run a college offense. I don't know how to

551
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 3: I don't go to Tom Herman or Mac Brown and

552
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 3: say I got ideas for a play. Sure I should.

553
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 3: I mean I had to share is things that I know.

554
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 3: I've always been intrigued with the intangibles. You know, there's

555
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 3: there's two, like, for instance, the Utah game where we

556
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 3: where we waxed Utah last year. The two plays that

557
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 3: I show the team that I want to talk to

558
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 3: coaches about are one when KeAndre Coburn gets his helmet

559
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 3: knocked off his head in the middle of the field

560
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,959
Speaker 3: and still runs after the guy with the ball and

561
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 3: gets in on the tackle. And then as on the

562
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 3: sideline where you can see his mouth after he's kicked

563
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 3: out of the game. You have to take a playoff,

564
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 3: right because you can't be on the field without you

565
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 3: can't pursue a play without your helmet on. And you

566
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 3: see his mouth going. I didn't know that was a

567
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 3: beep and rule. I'm like, that is a great intangible.

568
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 3: That mental capacity right there, that you were balling without

569
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 3: a helmet is an intangible that can speak volumes across

570
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 3: a board for a team. Another one is this Sam

571
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 3: Allinger breaks out to the left, goes on like a

572
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 3: thirty two yard run. We're well ahead, he's coming back

573
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,719
Speaker 3: on the field. The cornerback that finally got him out

574
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 3: of bounds is up in his face. Three linemen ran

575
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 3: the thirty two yards down the field and just build

576
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 3: a wall up and from that cornerback and backed him

577
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 3: off of their quarterback. And Sam Allinger didn't even not

578
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 3: didn't even didn't even look at the cornerback, just ran

579
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 3: back to the huddle. But his three linemen were down

580
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 3: the field in that cornerback's face go no, no, no, you

581
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 3: don't touch you don't talk any smack tar quarterback, we're

582
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 3: rolling your ass right now. Those are two intangibles that

583
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 3: don't have anything to do with the specific play, but

584
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 3: they had to do with a major They majorly have

585
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 3: to do with the mentality that can help you succeed

586
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 3: on a football field.

587
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: And by the way, there's a lot of parallel there

588
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: between what you saw on that play and some of

589
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: the passages in your book, your experiences with your father

590
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: about getting into his good graces. Yeah, there were several

591
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: interesting stories about that in the book. How you sort of,

592
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: I guess, got on the good side if you want

593
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: to say, for your.

594
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 3: Fights with my father initiations, Yeah, you know my dad's

595
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 3: You know, if I asked my dad, what was your

596
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,479
Speaker 3: your biggest asset as a football player when you were

597
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 3: your best, he goes played to the whistleblows and sometimes

598
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 3: a little bit further even longer. So I've had many

599
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 3: things in my life where maybe I didn't have the

600
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 3: equal ability as the person next to me I was

601
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 3: competing with. But I got the job or succeeded because

602
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 3: I out hustled that person. I got, I got back

603
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 3: up again, I got. I got up from more failures

604
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 3: than that person did, and that person finally went, I

605
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 3: give man, I can't beat this guy. He just won't

606
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 3: quit coming. And so that underdog mentality is something that

607
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 3: I've taked and into my work throughout my life. You know,

608
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,959
Speaker 3: our family, we had big rights of passage, and some

609
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 3: of them are physical. Quite a few of them were,

610
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 3: and that was a rite of passage in my dad's

611
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 3: mind of when you become a man. Part of it

612
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 3: was to challenge him. If you got the kahonas to

613
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 3: challenge me, he'd always say, boys, you know where to

614
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 3: find me. Now that was a big challenge. My dad

615
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 3: was a big man. You know, six four, two sixty

616
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 3: five that those numbers don't didn't didn't bode well for actually.

617
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 3: But if you went to him, which my brother did

618
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 3: and I did it in some fashion a little bit

619
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 3: later in life, it wasn't about you didn't ever get

620
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 3: in there in the in the in the real fight.

621
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 3: It was that if you actually meant the challenge, like

622
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 3: come on, old man, let's do it. That's when he went, ah,

623
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 3: there's my boy, that's what I was looking for. Then

624
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 3: you were buddies with him, but you needed to come

625
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 3: in and mean it and say I'm going my own way.

626
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 3: I'm not taking any more. Here's what I'm going to do.

627
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 3: And that's when he would That's when you got the

628
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 3: bear hug in the tiers from him saying that's my boy.

629
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: So I want to go back to the intangibles for

630
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: a second, because this is also something that you talk

631
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: about in the book. With regard to sports betting, you're

632
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: not necessarily First off, you're not betting for the money.

633
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: It's not about the money. It's about it's about saying

634
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: I told you so right. That's what it's about.

635
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 3: You knew it. It's about saying I knew it. It's

636
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 3: about buying a ticket to the game that I'm not

637
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 3: that interested in, so I'm going to lay fifty bucks

638
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 3: on the on the on the on the pro game.

639
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 3: It's it's about you know, when uh, I say, oh,

640
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 3: I'm betting on whoever. I'm betting on Brett fav team

641
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 3: Monday night because his dad passed away last Tuesday. And

642
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 3: if he's going to actually play in this game, which

643
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 3: he says he is those intended, he will be playing

644
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 3: for more than just a game. He's going to be

645
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 3: on another level. And he actually was you know what

646
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 3: I mean?

647
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: I told you so right there you go.

648
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 3: I knew it. It's an intangible you know, the the

649
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 3: pick of just the straight spread is not that interesting

650
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 3: to me. It's how is that team in practice who

651
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 3: traveled across the country is going to be jet lagged?

652
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 3: And I'm not always right. I'd say I'm fifty one

653
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 3: percent right. And if you're fifty one percent right, you

654
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 3: could actually make a bit of a living, do it.

655
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 3: I thought, when i'm you know, it is when you're wrong,

656
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: you're like, well, there must be a glitch in the system,

657
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But when you're right, you're like,

658
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 3: I knew I was on the pulse. And whether that's

659
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 3: full of myself or not, I don't care. It's fun

660
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 3: to go. I knew it. I knew it. I read

661
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 3: the future.

662
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: Well, so with all that being said, we're a college

663
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: football show. Eighteen to twenty two year old athletes a

664
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: crazy time in all of their lives, raging hormones, wild emotions,

665
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: insane rivalries. I would think if intangibles are your thing

666
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: as a better that college football might might be something

667
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: you're interested in. Do you bet at all on college football?

668
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 3: Not really? And and and I don't with with with

669
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 3: my teams, kind of keep that out of it, you know,

670
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 3: I I I don't want to. I've got a relationship

671
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 3: with with players and coaches at the University of Texas.

672
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 3: I I do have an inside eye. I want to

673
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 3: keep that pure as I can with them. Yeah, you know,

674
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 3: right now, what's this season going to end up being?

675
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 3: I mean, what have we got? We got? Ohio? Big

676
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 3: ten comes out last week, plays their first games. You're

677
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 3: looking at these lopsided numbers when you're seeing teams play

678
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 3: Texas two and two, playing Baylor one on one. Wait,

679
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 3: what where were the other two games? Oh? Yeah, I

680
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 3: think Wisconsin just canceled another game. Here, we're going to

681
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 3: find out that this grand experiment is going to work

682
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 3: here that we're in you know right now, the team,

683
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 3: this is more of a mental game, this mental season,

684
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 3: this season than any season it's an abbreviated season. Uh,

685
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 3: the kids routines are not the same. The coaches have

686
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 3: not had the same access or time has been with

687
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 3: the teams. You know, I would think it's probably a

688
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 3: good time to simplify some awesome game plans and say,

689
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 3: you know, let your athletes take the full advantage of

690
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,479
Speaker 3: their athletic ability as you can, because the kids haven't

691
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 3: had the time to go through the reps that they

692
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 3: would have had time before, you know, and again the

693
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: hard thing in a season, it's impossible to get those

694
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 3: young men on a college football field to be absolutely

695
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 3: in peak performance position and they're mentally and physically ten

696
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 3: saturdays a year now on paper, you go, it's ten

697
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,959
Speaker 3: saturdays a year for three and a half hours. Can

698
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 3: we everything go to having it?

699
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 2: Won't?

700
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 3: It doesn't happen. There's I remember, you know, coach mac

701
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 3: brime used to say, you know, Texas when he was there, Oh,

702
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 3: you know, we'll play good against Oklahoma or Nebraska in

703
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 3: your background, which there's a story of when we beat

704
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 3: Nebraska in ninety nine in the in the book. But

705
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 3: he would say, you know, at that time, Rice wasn't

706
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 3: very good, and he was like, but we're gonna need

707
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 3: you to pump up the team for the Rice game

708
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 3: because I have a tendency to play just good enough

709
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 3: and maybe make it closer than it should have been,

710
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 3: you know. And that's one of Texas has challenged right now,

711
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 3: is it has been. It's not only is being good

712
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 3: enough to roll the teams you should roll and put

713
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 3: put put put, with the proverbial foot down on the

714
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 3: throat when it's time. And because we played some of

715
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 3: the big games good. Our best game we probably played

716
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 3: lest She was against LSU. We lost, but we played

717
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 3: good in those in those big games. It's about finding

718
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 3: a consistency across the board for us right now, of

719
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 3: going out there and playing for a par excellence that

720
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 3: we ourselves hold ourselves accountable to, not what anyone else thinks.

721
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,479
Speaker 1: Now with you, what's your relationship with the age old

722
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: question now of is Texas back? Is it annoying to

723
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: hear that? I'm sure you've heard it by now. Is

724
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 1: it annoying to hear that?

725
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 2: Is it something.

726
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: That that you hear and you sort of chuckle about it?

727
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? What does Texas back

728
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: even really mean to a Texas slum and a long

729
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: time Texas fan.

730
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 3: Well, Texas back means earnestly competing for national championships period.

731
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 3: That's the expectation. Players understand that when they come to

732
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 3: Texas that needs to be that par excellence sort of

733
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 3: measure above the above the head and in the mind

734
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 3: of anybody at the University of Texas playing any sport,

735
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 3: we are you know, we have a tradition, we're right

736
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 3: there in the hobbit of incredible athletes we have. No

737
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 3: one has better facilities, no one has a better opportunity

738
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 3: to be great, be any better than we do here

739
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 3: at the University of Texas. So are we back? No,

740
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 3: we're not back. And I believe when we quit even

741
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,479
Speaker 3: fighting to say, oh uh, we got to get back

742
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 3: because the world thinks we should be back, and we're

743
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 3: just like f it, we're back. We're gonna go just

744
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 3: go do the work and we're gonna we're gonna handle it.

745
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 3: I think you know the place like texts you're gonna have,

746
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 3: you're gonna be scrutinized at a different level than anywhere else. Well,

747
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 3: that's part of the package. So in that way, these

748
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 3: young men have to grow up even faster in today's

749
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 3: world of social media, how do you keep from playing

750
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 3: in the dan third person? You know what I mean?

751
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 3: When when we start playing as a team in the

752
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 3: first person as the subject, forget the forget the jumbo trump,

753
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,919
Speaker 3: forget what anyone's saying about me Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wendy

754
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,720
Speaker 3: leading Upstay, we first start forgetting about that and playing

755
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 3: for our ourselves as a team and quit worrying about

756
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 3: what the rest of the world thing that's will actually

757
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 3: be on our way to truly being back.

758
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 2: Does Texas have to worry about the Texas machine becoming

759
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 2: too big? Because as you know, I mean it's similar

760
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 2: to a movie set, and that there are so many

761
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: people that go into a major football program. What is

762
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 2: and I don't mean this in a good nor a

763
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 2: bad way, What does that machine look like behind the scenes?

764
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 2: What does it look What does it mean to have

765
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: to you know, there are so many voices. There are boosters,

766
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 2: there are athletic directors, there there are so many voices

767
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 2: that have opinions about what Texas Football should be doing.

768
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: What does it take to wrangle that machine from what

769
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 2: you've seen?

770
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 3: Wins? That's a w that's not a three that's a w. Wins.

771
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 3: Winning fixes most all of it. And that's not just

772
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 3: at the University of Texas, but it's definitely at the

773
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 3: University of Texas. You know, Tom Harmon, coach, came in

774
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 3: there and talked about the football team. His main word,

775
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 3: which is a good one, is alignment. We've got to

776
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 3: get everyone's expectations aligned and understand what it takes to

777
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 3: play there, and then you go about the course and

778
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 3: you stick to it. It's something you can believe in

779
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 3: and that you're going to take even into next satitay,

780
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 3: even after maybe a loss. Getting everyone aligned again, the

781
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 3: expectations are higher, as high and higher than anywhere else

782
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 3: in any other university in the nation. Good Can you

783
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 3: look at that as not pressure? Here let me give

784
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 3: you an example. I did a film called Killers Show.

785
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 3: The director William Freagan did something that I've never heard

786
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 3: before and it was awesome. But this is what the

787
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 3: mentality needs to be at Texas. Right here, he goes, Okay,

788
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 3: everyone new rule this entire shoot. It's a day one

789
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 3: er shooting. He goes, everybody gets one take. Now you

790
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 3: can go two ways with that. You can go, oh, yeah,

791
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 3: what am I gonna do? It, or you can go, well,

792
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 3: f it, let's rock and roll, don't hold anything back.

793
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 3: You got one take, it's live, there's no take too,

794
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 3: there's no audition, let's go. I was happy to engage

795
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 3: in that second version where where I found it freeing.

796
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 3: I found freedom in it instead of getting tight with

797
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 3: the pressure. We'll get some consistency as as we're as

798
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 3: we're as we're getting into now that will hopefully deem

799
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 3: improve itself to be successful in the long run. This

800
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 3: is a tricky, wild year. This was Tom Irman's fourth year.

801
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 3: These are his guys. This is the year I had

802
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 3: penciled in that I thought we would really compete for

803
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 3: the national championship. It doesn't look like that's gonna happen.

804
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 3: At our record at three and two, I feel like

805
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,959
Speaker 3: we'll go in and play Oklahoma State good because that's

806
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 3: that's that's a big game. It's a conference game. The

807
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 3: other thing you got to remember, Texas is take pride

808
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 3: and honor in the fact that you are eleven other

809
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 3: team's favorite and biggest rival and the next one I

810
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 3: think it's four at Notre Dame and we're like, we

811
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 3: have eleven. Look at that with honor and look at

812
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 3: that with responsibility, account of building and go good. I'd

813
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 3: have it no other way. You know. It's like, like

814
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,439
Speaker 3: I said, Oklahoma, they are indirectly complimenting us. Every time

815
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 3: they do this with their horns. It's like they've grabbed

816
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 3: our sign and all I do is turn upside down.

817
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 3: It's like, thank you, you have your own sign. In

818
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 3: the meantime, keep doing that, because a compliment it means

819
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 3: your identity goes through us.

820
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: One of the things that you've talked about, even as

821
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: it relates to your acting career, is over preparing, just

822
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: knowing everything about a role. And in your current role

823
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 2: as Minister of Culture, you're in the weeds. You're with players,

824
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 2: you're with coaches. Coaches travel and see how other programs operate.

825
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: Have you been to Ohio State, Alabama, Florida, Oregon? Have

826
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 2: you been to those places to familiarize yourself with what

827
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 2: major college football looks like.

828
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 3: I've been to pro sports, have been international sports, and

829
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 3: I've gone around the world and seeing how different organizations,

830
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 3: businesses and sports and institutions handle themselves. One of the

831
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 3: things that you have to do, and this goes back

832
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 3: to alignment, you have to have clear messaging. I have

833
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 3: been in Texas at times in along the past where

834
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 3: the messages were beautiful, but there are too many of them.

835
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 3: You got to have a baseline. You got to have

836
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 3: a bloodline message, a commitment to excellent or a play

837
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 3: like a champion, or what is the baseline theme that

838
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 3: bleeds through twenty four to seven from practice to the

839
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 3: locker rooms to game day and reverberates throughout the entire stadium.

840
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 3: What is the heartbeat that you can go this is

841
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 3: who we are, this is what we rely on. Now,

842
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 3: you can have a different motto each week to get

843
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 3: people up with a new aspirational thought. You can have

844
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 3: a motto each season that you can amend a little bit,

845
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 3: but the heartbeat has to stay and continue to be

846
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 3: consistent throughout. And the greatest teams have that and rely

847
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 3: on that. And it is the thing that takes you

848
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 3: through the losses that you will have, takes you through

849
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 3: the battles because it's the theme that takes you on

850
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 3: to go win the war at the end of the battle.

851
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 2: Is that cohesion close?

852
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 3: Is it there?

853
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 2: What sense do you get from seeing successful organizations to

854
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 2: where Texas is in late October?

855
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 3: Well, it's hard to say right now at three and

856
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 3: two that is there because it wouldn't be a parent

857
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 3: that it is. It wouldn't be a parent that it

858
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 3: is there because at the end of the day, we

859
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 3: can talk about it all we want. And myself being

860
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 3: a huge University of Texas Longhorn Van and people that

861
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 3: don't like the University of Texas, our biggest robberies would say,

862
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 3: your record tells you who you are. That's the old

863
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 3: Bill par Sales thing. Your record tells you where you are.

864
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 3: So other than that, it's it's talk. And when talk

865
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 3: leads to actual belief. I want to go to another

866
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 3: thing you mentioned here, though, sure as to do with

867
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 3: my work in preparation. If you look at schools that

868
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 3: get a new defensive coordinator a new offensive coordinator that

869
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 3: first year, that team on that cell of the ball

870
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 3: is probably not going to be that good because you're

871
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: going to see them on the field thinking you're going

872
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 3: to see him trying to measure it. And if a

873
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 3: player thinks while they're on the field, they're usually a

874
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 3: half step late. Especially on defense, you're usually a half

875
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 3: step late if you think, oh, this is the transition

876
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 3: from the linebacker to me is the safety. If you

877
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 3: prepare long enough and you go through the reps and

878
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 3: it gets out of your mind and into your loins

879
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 3: and instinct and gut, then you're reacting. Then the great

880
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 3: athlete can react within the structure of what they've learned.

881
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 3: But you don't want a great athlete or me. My job,

882
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 3: what I do is an acro. I don't want to be.

883
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 3: I'm not. I do all the preparation. My hard work

884
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 3: is preseason pre production. When I go to set and

885
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 3: it's game time, one take or twenty takes, whatever it's

886
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 3: I'm playing, I'm enjoying the playfulness of it. I come

887
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 3: in loaded, man, I got four versions of the truth

888
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 3: that I'm going to give you, and you can throw

889
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 3: anything at me. I'll call an audible in sync. Don't

890
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 3: even yell cut, Let's go throw it at me. I

891
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 3: love that's the you know. I want to be off

892
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 3: balanced and find find my way to getting balanced in

893
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 3: a scene. That's the same thing with an athlete. You

894
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 3: don't want athletes out there overthinking stuff. At the same time,

895
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 3: you got a plan, and that's what the pre season

896
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 3: is about, or before the season. You want to have

897
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 3: enough reps to follow through that plan by where by

898
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 3: the time you were playing on Saturdays, you do not

899
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 3: even think about it. It's instinctly there.

900
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: I want to go back to that theme of preparation

901
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: though having a plan. There's one story in particular where

902
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: you talk about your early acting career, how you figured

903
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: out the character and there was a four page monologue

904
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: that you didn't know it was a four page monologue,

905
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: or that it was in Spanish, but you were prepared,

906
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 1: you were loaded for bear to go into this scene.

907
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: And it was one of those moments early on where

908
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 1: you were a little too cavalier. I got the biggest

909
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:52,280
Speaker 1: kick out of that story.

910
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 3: I Yeah, it's one of there's quite a few stories

911
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 3: in here where I step in s hi T and

912
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 3: this is one of them. Yeah. I get this bright

913
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 3: idea that I don't need to study the script. I

914
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 3: don't need to break down the scene. If I know

915
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 3: my man and I know the circumstance, I'll just go there,

916
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 3: press record on the camera, let the camera roll, and

917
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 3: I'll be my man and do and say what he

918
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 3: would do. Well, that's a great idea until right before

919
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 3: the take you look at the script, which I did

920
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 3: notice a four page monologue in Spanish, and I remember

921
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 3: the sheer embarrassment and the beat of sweat that came

922
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 3: up on the back of my head and dripped down.

923
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 4: My neck, and I was like, oh yeah, And I

924
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,240
Speaker 4: said to no one in particular, give me twelve minutes, please,

925
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 4: thinking that would be not enough time to inconvenience the crew,

926
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 4: but also enough time to learn a four page monologue

927
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 4: in Spanish, because.

928
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 3: Hey, I took Spanish in my one semester in eleventh grade.

929
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: That's all you need.

930
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, all you need negatory. So it was not

931
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 3: enough to learn that. And I remember I went and

932
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 3: at the scene. I didn't let anyone on know, didn't

933
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 3: let anyone know that I wasn't prepared. I think it

934
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 3: was probably obvious, but from that day on I said, no,

935
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 3: you have to work, You have to prepare, You have

936
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 3: to form the structure to then have the freedom to

937
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 3: play and do job well. Preparation has been incredibly important

938
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 3: for me since that date. And I learned a lesson

939
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 3: the hard way because I had a bright idea that

940
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 3: was not a prudent one.

941
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: So hold on, what did you do though? Were you

942
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: able to learn some bulk of it in Spanish. How

943
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 1: did you.

944
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 3: Embarrassed to watch it? Remember what I did? I don't

945
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 3: remember what I did. I'm sure it was some half

946
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 3: as horrible version of your poor Kolo valgo. I'm sure

947
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 3: it didn't tell like I newstandished really well?

948
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I guess to that point. You know, back

949
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: to the book for a second. You do describe the

950
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: process that you seemingly follow to figure out your characters

951
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: before that pre production, that pregame stage of creating any

952
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: kind of motion picture. The first step seemingly is you

953
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: get the script. Once you get the script, you kind

954
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: of craft the persona around your character, and then at

955
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: some point you step into the character. And at that point,

956
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: like I don't want to say, the script goes out

957
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: the window. Obviously it does not. But at that point

958
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: when you kind of merge with the character, that's when

959
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: you take some of those creative liberties that really make.

960
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 3: You absolutely as good as you are all informed by

961
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 3: starting with what the script gave me. So you start

962
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 3: with what is on the page first? What do you

963
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 3: need to learn? Do that before you go towards the

964
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 3: imagination or think about improvising or calling audibles. Know the

965
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 3: playbooks so well that you're confident to call the audible

966
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 3: when you're in the game. I call it owning my men.

967
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 3: The writer may write it, the director may be directing it,

968
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 3: but I need to get to a point where I

969
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 3: own that character. I'm the boss of that character. And

970
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 3: a good director wants his actors to go take ownership.

971
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 3: You're the bloodline, take it and run. Mac Brown wants

972
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 3: Vince Young to come over to the sideline and go

973
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 3: give me the bo I got this. We're you know,

974
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 3: we're yeah, I know that's the play. But I'm calling

975
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 3: an audible the line because I see something. You want a

976
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 3: player to take that ownership. But if it's based off

977
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 3: of what is the general plan, what's the structure, if

978
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 3: it's within a good improviser only improvise all the things

979
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 3: I'll improvise or make up when I'm doing it well,

980
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 3: is based off of the structure, in the context of

981
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 3: the plan on the page and who the man is

982
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 3: on the page. I'm not just making stuff up. It's

983
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 3: all coming out of the inventory of the study and

984
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 3: that I've already done, and not just so you can

985
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 3: see people improvise and scenes and it may seem like, oh,

986
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 3: that was really clever and good. But sometimes you go,

987
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 3: but that really isn't what the character would do. Oh,

988
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 3: that was a kind of a one off scene. You

989
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 3: see in comedies a lot. There are some great improvisers.

990
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 3: Some of them do it really well, and they improvise

991
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 3: within the context of who their character is and the

992
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 3: relationship with whoever they're in the scene with. Sometimes you'll

993
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 3: see comedians go off and improvise a scene. You're like, oh,

994
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 3: they've had that skit written and they were just looking

995
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 3: for a place to put it in a movie, and

996
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 3: they just ripped it off and did it. And while

997
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 3: it may be funny in the moment, you may go

998
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 3: after the movie it really wasn't true to the guy

999
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 3: or true to the relationship that the person had in

1000
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,919
Speaker 3: the movie. So it needs to be with all improvisation,

1001
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 3: all audibles need to be within the context of the

1002
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 3: original plan.

1003
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: So with that said being so, this is a show

1004
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 1: that airs on a Friday, and on Fridays here on

1005
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: the Cliverbal we do a weird space themed college football show.

1006
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 1: You were in a movie called Interstellar where you played

1007
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 1: astronautical traveler. How on God's Green Earth did you plan

1008
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: for your role as a galactic traveler, because there aren't

1009
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: a whole lot of real world reference points that you

1010
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: can go off there.

1011
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 3: Yeah right, I mean one. I went to Chris Nolan,

1012
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 3: a lot who he creates these conceptual worlds. So I

1013
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 3: went to him like and I said, like, what's give

1014
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 3: me the rules here? How does time move here? Where

1015
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 3: are we what's gravity like, etcetera. I'm the lead astronaut.

1016
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 3: I need to know this for the survival and the

1017
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 3: success of our mission. He didn't always have the answers.

1018
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 3: Sometimes you go, that's a good question, I'm not quite

1019
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 3: sure what the rules are. And he'd come back to

1020
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 3: me though a week later and go, you know, I

1021
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 3: thought about what you asked me, and we go over

1022
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 3: it and kind of hash it out to where I

1023
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 3: could have some sound information understand the rules of engagement

1024
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 3: with the world he created. You know. That was different

1025
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 3: than say, like my role in Contact, where I played

1026
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 3: a believer in the world of science, and coming away

1027
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 3: from that movie, it was like, oh, you know what,

1028
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 3: as a believer, God's back yards bigger than I thought

1029
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 3: it was, And it opened my eyes to think of

1030
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 3: more places than just earths as the backyard that we're

1031
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 3: all living in Interstellar was more, you know, in some

1032
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 3: ways more personal in that the questions like, what would

1033
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 3: you do if you if you went and time ran

1034
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 3: a different at a different pace and your your kids

1035
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 3: had grown up and you missed their childhood because you're

1036
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 3: in a different time lapse and time ran at the universe?

1037
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 3: Is that worth sacrificing? And what are what are the

1038
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 3: consequences of that? So other than other than that, I

1039
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 3: was able to get very personal with Cooper and then

1040
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 3: try to just understand what the hell is the rules

1041
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 3: in this Tesseract? What does it mean? What does it

1042
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 3: mean when I were on Saturn here? How does time

1043
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 3: move differently? So I can understand what the decisions are

1044
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,280
Speaker 3: going to cost me as the character.

1045
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 2: One of the things we hate, and this does tie back,

1046
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 2: I trust me. One of the things we hate as

1047
00:53:55,400 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 2: college football fans is watching coaches get comfortable, watching coaches

1048
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: stay stubborn, watching coaches do what sort of they believe

1049
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 2: to be. Well, this is what people expect of me.

1050
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 2: It was fascinating to hear you've talked about romantic comedies

1051
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: and how you felt pigeonholed. You felt that this is

1052
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 2: how you were going to be viewed. This is how

1053
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,919
Speaker 2: you felt. Everybody said, well, this is what he does,

1054
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 2: and you just stopped doing those and you never would

1055
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 2: have ended up in a movie like Interstellar. You never

1056
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 2: would have ended up in Dallas Buyer's Club, any of

1057
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 2: these movies that are incredibly well regarded.

1058
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 3: What did did?

1059
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 2: Was that a difficult thing because of obviously financial ramifications,

1060
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,919
Speaker 2: and you had made it, you were a movie star.

1061
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 2: What did it take for you to fully sprint out

1062
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 2: of your comfort Zoneah?

1063
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, hell yeah, it was difficult. One

1064
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 3: of the most difficult decisions I've ever made my life.

1065
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 3: I was at the time of my career where I

1066
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 3: was the go to guy for rom Coms and they

1067
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 3: paid me handsomely and I was shirtless on the beach.

1068
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 3: You damn right. Those rom Coms paid the rent of

1069
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,959
Speaker 3: the houses on the beaches where I ran shirtless. Guilty, Yes, sir,

1070
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 3: that was me choice. So you know, it's also not

1071
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 3: fair to say, oh, that was you, But now the

1072
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 3: real you comes up. No, that was me as well,

1073
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 3: And what I've been doing is also me. But the

1074
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 3: things that I've been doing over the last twelve years,

1075
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 3: these dramas you bring up those are not getting offered

1076
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 3: me at that time. So while I was fully happy

1077
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 3: and straight faced about the life I was living in

1078
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 3: rom Comms and loved my job and stuff, they had

1079
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 3: pigeonholed me to where that's the only thing I was

1080
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 3: getting offered. So I decided, if I can't do what

1081
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 3: I want to do, I'm going to stop doing what

1082
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 3: I've been doing. And I talked about this in the

1083
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 3: book the process of elimination. If we can't do what

1084
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 3: we want to do or we don't know what we

1085
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 3: want to do or who we are, eliminate the things

1086
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 3: we're not, and by process of elimination, we'll end up

1087
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 3: with the things that feed us and tell us who

1088
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 3: we are in front of us. Well, I checked my

1089
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 3: money manager. I said, I'm going to stop doing rom Comms.

1090
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 3: I don't know how long I'll go with that work.

1091
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 3: Have a saved money? He said, you saved your money, Well,

1092
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 3: you can afford it. I checked with my wife, I

1093
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 3: checked my agent. I shed many a tear on my

1094
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 3: wife's shoulder. Going, I may not work. I don't know

1095
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 3: for how long. I don't know how long I'll be

1096
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 3: in a trout. Well, it was a twenty month trout,

1097
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 3: no work, nothing came in. I was forgotten by Hollywood.

1098
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I wasn't in the theater

1099
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 3: or in your living room in a rom com. You

1100
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 3: didn't see me on the beach shirtless anymore. So after

1101
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 3: twenty months of no work, I became a new, fresh novel,

1102
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 3: good idea for those dramatic roles that I was looking for,

1103
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 3: and boy, as soon as it came my way, I

1104
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 3: ferociously attacked him. So I unbranded to rebrand. You know,

1105
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 3: sometimes we don't not sure what the new game plan is.

1106
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 3: Stop doing the old one and press reset, you know

1107
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 3: what I mean. Remove yourself from from old habits and

1108
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 3: then you will, hopefully, you know, the ones that the

1109
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 3: new habits you want to you want to partake in,

1110
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 3: will reveal themselves. And sometimes that's by just being away

1111
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 3: and out of the picture. And that's what it was

1112
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 3: for me at that time.

1113
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 2: And now you're away and in Austin. You're not in Malibu,

1114
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 2: you're not in la you're not in Hollywood. You're in Austin.

1115
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 2: And to bring it full circle, because we talked about

1116
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 2: you as a hypothetical recruit, we talked about ut I'm

1117
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 2: not going to say this in the context of a recruit.

1118
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 2: But let's say I. Let's say I Dan Rubinstein am

1119
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 2: coming to Austin for UT, Oklahoma State, UT, TCU, whatever.

1120
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 2: If you are mapping out the perfect Austin college football weekend,

1121
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 2: what is your itinerary? What are we doing?

1122
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:36,919
Speaker 3: What are we eating?

1123
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 2: Where we hiking?

1124
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 3: Well, the perfect weekend is Look, I've got, you know,

1125
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 3: a box there where my family goes. I prefer the sidelines.

1126
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 3: I like to see that eye level and see those

1127
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 3: young men, look them in the eye, and be down

1128
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 3: there where I can break and break a sweat as

1129
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 3: well with them. The tailgate. We're gonna gonna matter what

1130
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 3: time the game starts Saturday, hopefully it's later afternoon, so

1131
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 3: we can go ahead and revel in on Friday night

1132
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 3: and get get loosened up. Where we're going tomorrow's game.

1133
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 3: What are we doing for? Well, we're me. We're gonna

1134
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 3: probably hang at my house and I'm gonna be cooking

1135
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 3: inch and five eight ribbis rub right there, and there's

1136
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 3: gonna be some music plaanning. We're gonna be getting ready.

1137
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 3: We're gonna enjoy the night and talk about things. And

1138
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 3: then tomorrow morning it's game time early at my house.

1139
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 3: We're getting in the zone pretty early and to get

1140
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 3: focused and hopefully that our focus is reverberating all the

1141
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 3: way through the city and that the whole city's focus

1142
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 3: is reverberating to the team to where today when we

1143
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 3: go to the game, this is the place to be

1144
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 3: on the planet, and we got to be there and

1145
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 3: we are you know, A and M's got the name

1146
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 3: twelfth man, but we have how can we be the

1147
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 3: twelfth Man? I've seen crowds actually help will teams. I've

1148
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 3: seen we talked earlier about the mind of the eighteen

1149
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 3: to twenty two year old sometimes the fatigue keeps it

1150
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 3: from being a self starter in that fourth quarter to

1151
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 3: find to dig in and find that actually a lot

1152
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 3: of times a crowd can help that. I'm amazed at

1153
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 3: how much players let you know how much a crowd

1154
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:13,439
Speaker 3: has helped them out at certain times. So we get there.

1155
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 3: The only game in town, the only game in the

1156
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 3: planet is right there. The only color in our stidium

1157
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 3: is going to be burnt orange. If we get out

1158
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 3: of the early. We've got a few good places to

1159
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,919
Speaker 3: go to tailgate for sure, to get a good get

1160
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 3: some meal, on us, and before we get to the game,

1161
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 3: you probably be in the box. I may go down.

1162
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 3: I'll kiss everybody good bye. I'm going down on the sideline.

1163
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,479
Speaker 3: We'll see you after the game, hopefully it's a victory.

1164
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 3: Well after we see is of Texas and we'll move

1165
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 3: on and victory. We'll now go continue to celebrate our

1166
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 3: victory afterwards.

1167
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 2: Where's that is that? Your house?

1168
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: Is?

1169
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 2: That is that town?

1170
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 3: After that, after a long day of football combined with

1171
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 3: the night before, I usually go for something a little

1172
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 3: a little lighter. There's a place we'll go by Uchi

1173
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 3: or Uchi Coo, and we're gonna have a nice, nice

1174
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 3: sushi sushi dinner. Because we loaded up on our heavy

1175
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 3: duty carbs all day long and last night as well,

1176
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:06,959
Speaker 3: so we'll go have a sushi dinner. Then if we've

1177
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 3: got a good gig in town, live music, we're gonna

1178
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 3: go check that out. And guess what, I've got a driver.

1179
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 3: He's gonna take us in a bus. Everyone drink up.

1180
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 3: You don't have to drive. We're gonna go do that

1181
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 3: and get everyone back. And then Sunday we'll ease in

1182
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 3: and easy to the today, sleep in. Don't worry about it.

1183
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 3: We'll actually slip by the eleven o'clock church service at

1184
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 3: our church, which is just a mile down the road.

1185
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 3: Great go atone for our sins if we got them,

1186
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 3: we be sure we did, and get ready for the

1187
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 3: week and get ready to do it all over again.

1188
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 2: I'll send you my confirmation number. The breakfast tacos are

1189
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 2: on me. I'm ready heard all right again.

1190
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: His name is Matthew McConaughey. His memoir Green Lights. It

1191
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: is available now. We're going to link it up in

1192
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: our show notes. Go out buy it. He's holding it up.

1193
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: It's a great read. Like I said, I practically read it, Matthew,

1194
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: and it's a really really good.

1195
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 2: Fantastic well done.

1196
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: This has been a true pleasure. We wish you nothing

1197
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: but the best with the book and with all your endeavors,

1198
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: and stop by any time you want.

1199
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 3: I dig it. Appreciate it, man.

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01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 1: Take care. Okay, Daniel, there you go.

1201
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm inspired, Ty, I've been reading the book. Who

1202
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 2: It's great.

1203
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 1: That is a bucket list interview for us. I am

1204
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 1: super pumped that we were finally able to pull that off.

1205
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 1: We thank mister McConaughey for being so gracious with this

1206
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: time and what again, urge everybody to go on out

1207
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: there and check out Green Lights. The book we got

1208
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 1: the link in the show notes really a collection of

1209
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: deeply personal stories about Matthew's life, how he got to

1210
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: where he is today, and just a an eclectic mix

1211
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 1: of life experiences that I think you can certainly find inspiration.

1212
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 2: While I'm still opted out of emotionally investing myself into

1213
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 2: Texas football, you picked a really.

1214
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: Weird time to opt out, knowing that this interview is

1215
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 1: on the horizon.

1216
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 2: I'm emotionally, I'm more emotionally invested than I ever was

1217
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 2: in Matthew McConaughey's career. And like, true, So that's what

1218
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 2: I That's where I'm taking that investment. And also I

1219
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 2: will celebrate like it's the birth of my own child

1220
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 2: if Texas were not only to win a national championship,

1221
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 2: but we get you remember what j R. Smith did

1222
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 2: after Cleveland won finally the lebron Remember he goes shirtless

1223
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 2: in a parade. Yeah, feels like that's on the horizon.

1224
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 2: If Texas is able to mount that full come back,

1225
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 2: Matthew McConaughey is going to be a joy in However,

1226
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 2: he celebrates.

1227
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: However, he celebrates. I think that's that's a parent in

1228
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: our interview this evening.

1229
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 2: So have you seen Magic Mike?

1230
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 3: By the way, it's.

1231
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 1: A good movie.

1232
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 2: Magic Mike is really good. It's a good movie, really

1233
01:02:58,920 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 2: good movie.

1234
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: Watch it with my mom, which was a little that

1235
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 1: was different, that was not not not.

1236
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 2: There's a pretty early yeah with Olivia Munn Is that

1237
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 2: who it was?

1238
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 3: It was.

1239
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 1: It was definitely not the movie watching experience that I

1240
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 1: was looking to get, but it was a good I

1241
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: like the movie, movie is really good.

1242
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 2: I just I would like to know what Mama H's

1243
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 2: reaction was in watching that movie. Obviously you cannot tell

1244
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 2: me because it's so specific, but what her reaction was

1245
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 2: when McConaughey gets on stage near the beginning of the

1246
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 2: movie and those leather chaps tie and says the las says,

1247
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 2: there's no touch in but I see a la la

1248
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 2: breakers out there. I'd like to see how Mama H

1249
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 2: reacted it.

1250
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 1: It was a different experience for me.

1251
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, yeah, okay, I'm just I'm just making sure

1252
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 2: I I couldn't be happier with how I was from

1253
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 2: McConaughey on the show. That was fantastic.

1254
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 1: Give us an email saw Verbal at gmail dot com.

1255
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 1: If you don't already, please do subscribe to the show

1256
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 1: at soliverbal dot com. You can find all the listen

1257
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 1: links there in the upright hand corner. While you're there,

1258
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: please do sign up for the newsletter. We send it

1259
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 1: out every Friday. Daniel. Right, just talk about what's going

1260
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 1: on in the college football world, what we're reading in

1261
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: some cases, what we're eating, and last, but certainly not least,

1262
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 1: as you are watching all of the action this weekend.

1263
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 1: Give us a phone call at for zero eight verbal one,

1264
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 1: that is four O eight eight three seven two two

1265
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 1: five one, and let us know stream of consciousness, as

1266
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 1: you're watching the games, what's your reaction, what's your real

1267
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 1: time feedback? We will mash those together into a segment

1268
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 1: we like to call the reverbs, and we will play

1269
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,479
Speaker 1: it for all y'all on our Reaction Show.

1270
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 2: Can I ask you a question? This is just a

1271
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 2: guess from you. I wanted to asked McConaughey this, but

1272
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 2: we sort of ran out of time. He was already

1273
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 2: so generous with this time. He gave us about forty

1274
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 2: five minutes. Right, Yeah, what are the chances to you,

1275
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 2: because McConaughey has a died in the wool burnt Orange

1276
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 2: Texas diehard. What are the odds to you that he

1277
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 2: has a burner account on I looked it up right now,

1278
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 2: Horns twenty four to seven. Now obviously get all of

1279
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:28,919
Speaker 2: the recruiting scoop he wants. He's friends and works alongside.

1280
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 2: You know, he's in the Athletic Department building with Tom

1281
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 2: Herman and Chrystal Conte, and he can text any of

1282
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 2: the players. He can text any of the status when.

1283
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 2: I'm sure he knew about the quinn Ewers thing days ago.

1284
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Speaker 1: But he just because he's a movie star doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: that he's not on message boards.

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Speaker 2: It's got to monitor the vibe.

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Speaker 3: It's gotta be fifty to fifty. I would a fifty.

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Speaker 2: I would say there's a seventy two percent chance he

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Speaker 2: has a burner on either Horns two four seven or

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Speaker 2: some deeply secret Texas recruiting message board. I have to

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Speaker 2: if next time Robert Gates with A and M. I

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Speaker 2: remember the Dennis Franchione newsletter. There was definitely a Secretary

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Speaker 2: of Defense who had to out himself or was outed

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Speaker 2: for a Texas A and m message board membership. I

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Speaker 2: remember there was a potential judge a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 2: a nominated judge who did not believe secure the nomination,

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Speaker 2: and he was outed for his Alabama message board exploits.

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Speaker 2: But I think seventy two percent seventy two plus percent.

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Speaker 2: Mcconaey has a paywall recruiting burner account.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, Solidverbal at gmail dot com. Subscribe to the

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Speaker 1: show if you don't already, I can.

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Speaker 2: Confirm that when I go to Austin for my magical

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Speaker 2: college football weekend.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll be back in a few days to

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Speaker 1: talk about all the college triple action. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for playing along with us, for downloading and supporting

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Speaker 1: the show. Check us out on the live scream tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Go over ballers, don't wait.

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Speaker 1: In the meantime, Stay solid Ultra Megastar Friday Orbit Peace,