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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology? With

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Speaker 1: and welcome to tech stuff. My name is Chris Poette,

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Speaker 1: and I am an editor here at how stuff works

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Speaker 1: on these occasions, as senior writer Jonathan Strickland. And today

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Speaker 1: we are Wibbly Wobbly Timey winmy stuff, and we also

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Speaker 1: have a special guest, Yes we do. Our special guest

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Speaker 1: is Tracy Wilson, who's also here at how Stuff Works.

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Speaker 1: She's a blogger for fan Stuff, among many other duties

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Speaker 1: that she performs here. And Tracy, the reason we brought

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Speaker 1: about doctor Who, the tech Inductor Who, and what Doctor

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Speaker 1: Who's all about. And since you're the fans stuff aficionado

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Speaker 1: on your part. Right. We also felt very badly about

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Speaker 1: not bringing you in here when we did how Lightsabers Work,

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Speaker 1: and so we're correcting that. From all future fictional technology

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Speaker 1: less guilty if you knew that I haven't actually listened

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Speaker 1: all know now that that your boss is a terrible person.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about Doctor Who, shall we? Indeed, so

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Speaker 1: this is a series that began in across the Pond

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Speaker 1: over in jolly old England. Yes, and it's it's fairly

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Speaker 1: So the story follows the adventures of a an alien

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Speaker 1: He looks like a human, but he's definitely an alien.

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Speaker 1: He's from the planet Gallifrey, and in his younger and

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Speaker 1: more impetuous days, he's old a time machine called the Tartists. Yes,

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Speaker 1: That turns out that the the the Gallifrey, the race

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Speaker 1: Colleges because of course another anagram there um there the

426
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Speaker 1: college began to mutate as a as a result of

427
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Speaker 1: some of the nuclear war that was going on as

428
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 1: well as they were just undergoing some genetic mutations, and

429
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 1: a uh by the name of dav Ross decided, Hey,

430
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,959
Speaker 1: I wonder what these things are gonna end up turning into.

431
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: He also, by the way, was very much injured in

432
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Speaker 1: the war between his his people, the College, and the

433
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: fall the their opponent race, and as a result, he

434
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: had to create a chair that kept him alive and

435
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: would allow him to sense his environment because all of

436
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 1: his faculties were pretty much destroyed as a result of

437
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: the war. I was gonna say rubber, but that'll work, Okay, Yeah,

438
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be I'm trying to work within the

439
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 1: universe here. But the colleges are much smaller. They're they're

440
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: pretty tiny creatures. So they have mutated into tiny and

441
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: tinier creatures, and they don't have very good survival rates either.

442
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: So Davros started to build these um these suits that

443
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Speaker 1: would keep them alive, keep the college alive. But the

444
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 1: suits ended up not just becoming life support but became

445
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Speaker 1: soldier suits, and this is what turned into the Daleks. Yeah. Yeah,

446
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 1: so they look like they're these cone shaped robots, but

447
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 1: really it's a giant mechanical suit for a little bitty

448
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Speaker 1: organism that's living inside it. And as a result, Davros

449
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: also decided to uh to fiddle with the genetics of

450
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Speaker 1: the College and eventually messed with them enough so that

451
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: they did not experience emotions like love or sympathy or

452
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Speaker 1: anything like that, and also came to believe that they

453
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Speaker 1: were the superior race in the universe. And that ended

454
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Speaker 1: up turning up badly for Davros, because eventually they turned

455
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: to him and said, well, why the heck are we

456
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: following you? We're superior and zapped him. Um, but he,

457
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: like any great villain, he comes back. Of course. It's

458
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: like you know, the Joker or any other villain in

459
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Speaker 1: any other franchise. You can't really kill them off permanently, right, Well,

460
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: in the Daleks themselves have been exterminated at a couple

461
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 1: of times as an entire race, but they've come back well,

462
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: and and if nothing else, you have the excuse of

463
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Speaker 1: time travel, which means that really they could they could

464
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Speaker 1: be in the future but die in the past. Well,

465
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: and that's sort of the premise of the the newer

466
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 1: version of Dr who is that there was a time lower,

467
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 1: a time war, and the time Lords and the Daleks

468
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 1: were both involved, and that the event exterminated both the

469
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Speaker 1: time Lords and the Daleks from the entirety of spacetime.

470
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 1: But they came back from that, of course they did.

471
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: And the Daleks have their suits have some interesting abilities

472
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 1: as well. They're made out by the way, I looked

473
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:56,360
Speaker 1: this up out of della kinium, Yes, which is ten

474
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Speaker 1: times stronger than steel and a quarter of the weight

475
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: of aluminium. We'll have to see. We'll have to take

476
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: that into the lab with some adam antium and see

477
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: which one comes out on top. And vibratium and unobtainium, unobtainium.

478
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: Let's just go ahead and throw all the fictional elements

479
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: out there, shall we. Um. But they have an ice talk,

480
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 1: which is their most probably recognizable feature, because they have

481
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: a turret on top of their heads. Oh, I don't know.

482
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: I think the plunger. There's the plunger, and then another

483
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: thing that looks a little like an egg whisk. Right,

484
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: that's the gun stick. Yeah. I like the plunger that

485
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: has the powerful suction cup at the end of it,

486
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 1: But it's a plunger. You definitely, Yeah, you can definitely

487
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: tell that that when this series was launched, they were

488
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: creating these these creatures, these monsters, these devices out of

489
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: whatever hardware they could get their hands on. Um and

490
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: and the Cybermen are good examples of that. Yes, the

491
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: Cybermen another another race that started out organic and then

492
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: gradually the race began to replace their own parts with

493
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: synthetic parts and then determined that by becoming synthetic they

494
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: could become perfect uh, and managed to do get all

495
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: the way up to the point where the only thing

496
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: organic left were their brains. And even in their brains

497
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: they decided to eliminate emotion because they thought emotion was

498
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Speaker 1: another sign of weakness, therefore was not perfection. So yeah,

499
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: the Cybermen are another villain that another race of villains

500
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: that pop up in several Doctor Whose stories. Uh, yeah,

501
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: they It's an interesting series of themes. Actually a lot

502
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: of the biggest theme I sense in the Doctor Who

503
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: series is the idea of the Doctor values humans for

504
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: the same qualities that all the villains think of as

505
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: being weakness. Is that fair to say? Things like love

506
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: of compassion and curiosity, that kind of stuff where the

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00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: Doctor thinks those are valuable traits, and the villains all

508
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: think those are things that you should eliminate in order

509
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Speaker 1: to become perfect. And even the time lords, to some extent,

510
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,239
Speaker 1: seem to have a little bit of that. The time

511
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: words don't. They're not warm and fuzzy. No, no, they're not.

512
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: They're really not. But I shouldn't point out that at

513
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: least one of them has a fondness for dogs. Are

514
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: we about to get to Canine? Yes, I wanted to

515
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: mention Canine if I may. Sure. Canine was was actually

516
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: not originally the doctor's dog. He was. He belonged to

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Speaker 1: Professor Marius new Heidelberg University. Well, unfortunately he was not

518
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: able to bring his real dog with him in space,

519
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: and so the doctor ended up sort of inheriting Canine,

520
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: who was a mechanical dog. It was a portable computer

521
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: was really what what Canine was supposed to be. But

522
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: because Marius had such fondness for his dog that he

523
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: had to leave behind because it was weight restrictions actually

524
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: submit that he couldn't bring his dog with him. He

525
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: built this computer in the shape of a dog. Once

526
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: he reached the outpost that he was working on, and

527
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: he works with rollers rather than legs, so he where

528
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: we're not talking like eyebow. Here also stairs problem for

529
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: problematic turns outstairs in England are if you ever being

530
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: chased by a bad guy, look for some stairs, because

531
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: there's at least a fifty fifty chance that you're gonna

532
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: be able to get away. But Canine is moving on.

533
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: Canin is equipped with uh some some sensors which you know,

534
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: you could see his ears, they turned back and forth.

535
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: They look like little right art dishes. And he did

536
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: have a I don't know that they ever identified what

537
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: it is, some kind of ray in his nose that

538
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: he could use to incapacitate villains from time to time.

539
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: And he could talk, and he could talk, which was

540
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: very useful when communicating with the doctor in any of

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00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: the companions who happened to be traveling with them. Yes,

542
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,479
Speaker 1: there's been multiple canines as well. Yes, because what's up

543
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: with Sarah Jane Smith. One ended up with Leela back

544
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: on Gallifrey Um. So the doctor essentially would travel with

545
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: with a companion and with Canine until uh, until he

546
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: would essentially leave. The companion would choose to leave, or

547
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: there'd be some circumstances that would force the companion to leave,

548
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: and sometimes canine would want to stay with the companion

549
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: or stay on some other planet, and so the doctor

550
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: would do the you know, the reasonable thing, go and

551
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: kidnap some other person to be his companion and build

552
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: another canine. Yeah, not so much. I think in a

553
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: lot of cases the canine was intended to be a

554
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: helper and guardian, especially in the case of Sarah Jane

555
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: um Well and he yes and which helped out with

556
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: Mr Smith. Right. Yes, it's a good there's a whole

557
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: One of the reasons that Sarah Jane is one of

558
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: my favorite companions is that she has a whole show

559
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: all of her own in which Canine features. But there

560
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: are rights issues with Canine, which is why Canine is

561
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: not everywhere. See I did not know that there are.

562
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: That's why he only made a couple of appearances in

563
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: the Sarah Jane Adventures. And there's a whole Canine show

564
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: that's not actually affiliated with Dr Who and it all

565
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: has to do with rights. It's another one of those

566
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: complicated issues where you've got uh, you know, especially when

567
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: you have things like a series of novels and comic

568
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: books and cartoons as well as television shows and UH

569
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: and television specials. Um not not every company. These aren't

570
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: all the work of a single group. Like, it's not

571
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: just one company that's putting out all of this stuff.

572
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: So UH. That does bring into some issues with rights

573
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: and UH and not certain writers can claim rights to

574
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,719
Speaker 1: various characters. It. It does get pretty complex, especially when

575
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: you're talking about the series. It's been around on and

576
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: off since sixty three, off more than on in some cases.

577
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: But it's back now and very popular. So we're curious

578
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: to see what happens over the next couple of regenerations.

579
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: I really want to see how they're going to get

580
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: out of that UM and UH. And it is interesting.

581
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: I think it's an interesting idea to get emotionally invested

582
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: in a show and that in which you know the

583
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: main character at some point is going to quote unquote

584
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: die and come back. But you know, when you start

585
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: watching it, like, it's not just that the show is

586
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: gonna end, it's the character that you've become attached to

587
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: is not going to be the same in another season

588
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: or two seasons or three seasons or however long. That's

589
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: so yeah, but it's the only show I can think

590
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: of that actually built that in. It's like, eventually this

591
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: actor is going to want to leave and this is

592
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: a really successful show. Yeah, there's also there's the theory

593
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: that James Bond is the Time Lord for that reason

594
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: because all these different actors who all have British accents

595
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: have all played James Bond and but the same James

596
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: Bond different. I have a similar theory about Santa Claus.

597
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: I think he's a time Lord. Well we already know that.

598
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: I think Wesley Crusher is a Timelord. Oh that's true.

599
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: Wesley Krusher is also a Timelord. Yeah, it turns out

600
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: there's a lot of them. So anyway, if you guys

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