1 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Welcome into the postseason edition of the Minnesota Vikings podcast. 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: I'm your host Tatum Everett from the Vikings Entertainment Network. 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: The fourteen and three Vikings are headed to la for 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: the first round of the NFL Playoffs. As number five 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: seed in the NFC, the Vikings now face the NFC 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: West winners in the La Rams the NFL saving the 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: best for last again as it's Monday night football kick 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: from SOFI Stadium, and now it feels like a really 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: good time to bring in our guest, former Vikings running 10 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: back Robert Smith. He's a longtime friend of the program. Robert, 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,319 Speaker 1: thank you so much for talking to us today. How 12 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: have you been enjoying this season? 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 2: It was pretty enjoyable until this past weekend. 14 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 3: It was a tough loss. You know. 15 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: There was so much build up going into the game 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: and just excited to see a really good game, and 17 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: I thought that it would be a high scoring affair 18 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: on both sides, and of course it only ended up 19 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: being above thirty for one team, so it was it 20 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: was kind of a letdown. But I think you know, 21 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: from a timing perspective, you always talk about wanting to 22 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 2: play your best going into the playoffs. But when you 23 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: prepare to play your best and you don't, I think 24 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: it can expose or at least reveal some of the 25 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: weaknesses that you definitely need to work on. So if 26 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: there's a bright spot, that would be the one. 27 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: This team was on a nine game winning streak before 28 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: this game, and you like to see this happen in 29 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: a contest where you've already clinched the playoff berth. So 30 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: now you know you put stuff on tape that maybe 31 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 1: teams can see from you. 32 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 4: But how can you learn from this experience? 33 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: Well, I think you look at the way that teams 34 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: have exposed some of your weaknesses and some of the 35 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: areas that they felt that they were going to be 36 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: able to gain an advantage. I think you start to 37 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: look at your protection schemes, you'd look at the execution 38 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: of those schemes. And then on the defensive side, you know, 39 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: there aren't many Jremior Gibbs fortunately in the National Football League, 40 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: and he's one of those guys that can just change 41 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: a game and it forces a really bad matchup a 42 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 2: lot of times with the linebacker and situations like that, 43 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: you need to react a little bit better and in 44 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: some cases just tackle a little bit better by taking 45 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: better angles. 46 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you talk about the defense. I mean, I 47 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: feel like they had a really really. 48 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 4: Good day there in the first half. 49 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: And coach even saidas I think this week in Ex's 50 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: and O's with Paul Allen, that if you don't have 51 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: the complimentary football, it doesn't matter how well your defense 52 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: plays there in the first half, because in the second 53 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: half it's just wasn't sustainable. 54 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely not. 55 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 2: You know, you're on the field too much, and I 56 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 2: think guys just get a little bit worn out and 57 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 2: get a little bit worn out. Sometimes you do take 58 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: those bad angles and even the fundamentals start to break 59 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: down a little bit. So just chalk that one up 60 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 2: to experience. What else can you do? Right, The most 61 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 2: important play is always the next one, and the most 62 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: important game is always the next one. 63 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. It's funny because I think that the mindset of 64 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: this team has been and what I felt myself around 65 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: this facility since the game on Sunday night is that 66 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: they're moving on. They're going to correct what they need 67 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: to correct, and they know they're gonna be honest. They 68 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: know that they need to get better in certain areas. 69 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: But if I have to say, like, following Sam Donald's 70 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: lead and his mental fortitude I think has been a 71 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: bit a nice blueprint for this team. It takes me 72 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: back to that Jacksonville game, was a game where they 73 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: didn't score a touchdown, and ever since then he's been 74 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: on a heater. 75 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 4: How can he start that all over again? 76 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's just going back to fundamentals. And 77 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: I think the thing that made Sam Donald different this year, 78 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: and you saw a little bit with San Francisco a 79 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: year ago, and we had an opportunity to call it 80 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: one of his games when he was a. 81 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: Starter down in Carolina. 82 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: He's just gotten so much better with his fundamentals of 83 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: playing the position, whether it's understanding protections how he needs 84 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: to climb or slide, move subtly in the pocket, and 85 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: his anticipy patient just reading defenses extremely well. And credit 86 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: Aaron Glenn and that Detroit Lions defense, even with the 87 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: missing pieces, I think that they made Sam hold on 88 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: to the ball a little bit longer than he wanted 89 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: to sometimes probably should have gotten rid of it maybe 90 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: two or three times. And that's the thing about the 91 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: quarterback position. You have to have a short memory and 92 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: you have to just kind of let it go sometimes, 93 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 2: and I don't think that was the case with Sam Darnold. 94 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: And as you go into the playoffs, I think it's 95 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 2: good to have that lesson in live action under your belt. 96 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it really is kind of interesting. I mean, 97 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: it didn't feel like all of the win was out 98 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: of the sales. 99 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 4: I mean, this is a fourteen win team. 100 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: And to be able to accomplish that in the NFL, 101 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: I mean throughout your years of playing. Obviously there weren't 102 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: seventeen games and whatnot, so that was really hard to 103 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: get to. But how hard is it to be able 104 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: to stack wins like that in this league? 105 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 3: That's extremely difficult. 106 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: And I think when you look at coach O'Connell's record, 107 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 2: I think it was somewhere around twenty six and eight 108 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: or twenty six and nine, and those one score games, 109 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: and a lot of those were one score games. 110 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 3: I think the. 111 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 2: Fundamentals are there, the structure, the foundation is there for 112 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 2: the team. And again, when you look at film like that, 113 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: as difficult as it can be to kind of relive 114 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: the loss that you just have, it really does kind 115 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: of point out those areas where you get better and 116 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 2: that ultimately is what each person has to do on 117 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: each play is look back and say, did I really 118 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 2: step the way that I was supposed to step? Did 119 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: I take that blitzerer on the way that I was 120 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: supposed to Did I use that correct angle when I 121 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: was going in for that tackle? Did I see that 122 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: route combination unfolding the. 123 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 3: Way that it was? 124 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: And so when you go back and you individually look 125 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: at your one to eleventh, it becomes a pretty clear 126 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: path as to how you need to improve. 127 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this team hopes to have improved over that 128 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,239 Speaker 1: stretch of games since the last time they played the Rams. 129 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: Obviously this is a team they saw before. The Veggans 130 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: have two losses on the year, one of them being 131 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: the Rams, and it was a way total different situation. 132 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: You're coming off of that Lions game, you have a 133 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: short week, you go in, your left tackle goes down 134 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: mid game, You're forced to play with your backup. Now 135 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: you've had a few games to get even better. Cam 136 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: Robinson in a trade has been a sneaky move by 137 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,679 Speaker 1: this front office this entire season. 138 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 4: How do you think this. 139 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: Team can use what happened in LA to their advantage 140 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: this time? Being that it's so or can they use 141 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: it at all since it's been such a long time. 142 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a you don't really kind of 143 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: look at it that way. And I think you know, 144 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 2: what you've seen out of the Rams really over the 145 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: last couple of years is they've gotten better as the 146 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: season has gone on, and I think, you know, it's 147 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: going to be a tough defensive challenge our offense against 148 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: their defense. I think it's a tougher challenge, maybe even 149 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: tougher than what they faced against the Lions. And you 150 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 2: don't really think, I don't believe that a team's going 151 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: to be the same because they generally don't play you 152 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: the same way that they did before. The things that 153 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: you see in that first matchup are going to be 154 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 2: a lot different than what they're going to use against you. 155 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: And I think again, it's fortunate for the Vikings to 156 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: have had that loss at the end of the year 157 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: because you better believe that the Rams are going to 158 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: be breaking that film down and say, well, this is 159 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 2: that we can try, this is a protection that we 160 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: think we're going to be able to exploit, or these 161 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: are players defensively that we think we can get out 162 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: of position so I think it's more about breaking down 163 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 2: the individual matchup on that week than it is going 164 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: all the way back to whatever that was. I guess 165 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: it was October and say, well, I think this is 166 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: what we're going to build our Branda. 167 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: It's funny you mentioned that. Have you watched any RAMS 168 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: games this season? 169 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 3: It's been a while, you know for me too. 170 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 4: But one thing that I saw that was really interesting. 171 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: Obviously this past week when they lost to the Seahawks, 172 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: they rested all their starters. But before that, to your 173 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: point of their defense, they've been playing exceptionally well in 174 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: the last three weeks. Before then, in weeks fifteen through seventeen, 175 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: they only allowed eight points per game on average, four 176 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: point eight yards per play on average, two passing touchdowns total, 177 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: and eighty three point seven rushing yards per game. I mean, 178 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: hearing those stats, you're like, man, what are they doing correct? Like, 179 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: what are they doing so good right now? 180 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 4: Right? 181 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? 182 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 2: Well, I think when you look at the execution of 183 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: their defense and you just kind of see the way 184 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: that this staff has really been able to kind of 185 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 2: mold this unit into what they wanted it to be 186 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: all year long, I think it's just they've They've gotten 187 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: so much better both sides of the ball, really, but 188 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 2: I think particularly on the defensive side of the ball, 189 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: just playing very disciplined football. And you know, when you 190 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: have a unit that believes in itself, it's got some talent. 191 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: You have coordinator that you know has been around the 192 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 2: game for a while and understands how to use those guys, 193 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: they get better and better as the season goes on. 194 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: We are currently talking to former Vikings running back Robert 195 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: Smith here on the Minnesota Vikings podcast, and Robert, I 196 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: really wanted to get your thoughts on the run game 197 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: this year. You know, it's always been a point of 198 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: emphasis for Kevin O'Connell and the staff is to establish 199 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: that run game, and I really feel like this year 200 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: they were able to get a better, you know, a 201 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: better operation, Goug, I guess you can say than in 202 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: the past two seasons, mainly because Aaron Jones has been awesome. 203 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: What do you like about his game? 204 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 3: I just say he's versatile back. 205 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 2: He can just do so much and he's not the 206 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: biggest back in the world, but he runs with great body, lean, 207 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: he finishes runs extremely hard, and then when you do 208 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: give him those opportunities to come out of the backfield. 209 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 2: He's so quick, so good with his lateral movement for 210 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 2: a guy I believe he just turned thirty, you know, 211 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: for a running back, that's a senior days, right, So. 212 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,719 Speaker 3: It's been around the game that long and it's kind 213 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 3: of molded his game. 214 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 2: I think he's gotten even better at making people miss. 215 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 2: And when you don't have the speed that you had 216 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 2: in your early twenties, you get a little bit better 217 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: with your lab movement. 218 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 3: But he's done a nice job. Think I think he's 219 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 3: done a great job of following as. 220 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 2: Blockers, and you know, you see a little bit more 221 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: insert out of the scheme where you have wide receivers, 222 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 2: you have tight ends kind of moving into the line 223 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: as blocker, almost like a like counter power more of 224 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 2: a gap scheme type of philosophy mixed in with some 225 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: of the zone schemes. So I think they've done a 226 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 2: tremendous job and Aaron's been a great addition. 227 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 1: We have to pause right now, but more from Robert 228 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: Smith after the break. 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Now, those things that you say, 247 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 1: like that you've seen them change THEMIT for two more 248 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: gap skives. Is that something that you've seen Kevin O'Connell 249 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: intentionally add or adjust into his scheme. 250 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it's kind of it's been something 251 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: across the league that we've seen more of, you know, 252 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 2: as these boxes get lighter depending on the personnel or 253 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: depending on the formation, and sometimes you go with a 254 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 2: true lead blocker like a CJ. Ham, or sometimes you 255 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 2: use those tight ends. And of course, the great thing 256 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 2: about versatile tight ends, you know, like a TJ. Howkinson, 257 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 2: is you know you can use a guy like that 258 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: to pull around, get up into the line of scrimmage, 259 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 2: or you can release him and have a favorable matchup 260 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: against a linebacker or a safety. So that's you know, 261 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: you talk about complimentary offense and defense, we also have 262 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 2: complimentary run and pass schemes. You really want to have 263 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 2: counters off of runs, so you see action one way 264 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: and then you have it coming back the other way. 265 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: You want good play action off of those, so you 266 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: really want to kind of give up defenses similar looks 267 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 2: with your run game with slight variations. 268 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: How do you think the one two punch of with 269 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: cam Akers in there has been It's kind of been 270 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of fresh air and just incredible to 271 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: see him come back over what he has faced with 272 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: two achilles injuries and being able to run like that. 273 00:12:58,640 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been awesome. 274 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 2: And you know, when you've been through an injury one time, 275 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 2: kind of coming back the second time, it's a little 276 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 2: bit better. You have a little bit more confidence early 277 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 2: because you kind of know the different milestones that you're 278 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 2: going to experience and you're a little bit more patient 279 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 2: with it. You understand that it's a process. But it's 280 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 2: been great. And obviously coach O'Connell had the experience with 281 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 2: him when he was with the Rams and knew what 282 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: kind of player he was, but more importantly what kind 283 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: of person he was. He's from a personality and mentality standpoint. 284 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: So now Robert, we are headed into the playoffs and 285 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: it's going to be a tough road. 286 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 4: You have to win four games if you want it all. 287 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: And it really starts with the Rams as a player, 288 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: Like what makes playoff football different? 289 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 2: It's win or go home. And I think it's not 290 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: just what makes the playoffs in the NFL different. I 291 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 2: think what makes football so exciting. I mean you talk 292 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 2: about basketball or hockey or baseball and you're like, well, 293 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 2: we lose this game, we'll get them when we get 294 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 2: back to our place or something like that, right, like 295 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: you don't thankfully you don't have seven games series. 296 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 4: No series is right. 297 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 2: It's that excitement, but it's the urgency really that it 298 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 2: brings to the game, and it brings to your preparation 299 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: more importantly, because we say so many times games are 300 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 2: won and lost during the course of the week and 301 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 2: the way you prepare, and I think especially coming off 302 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 2: the loss, the disappointment with all the build up going 303 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 2: in to that Lions. 304 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 3: Game on the road. Now you have to go on 305 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 3: the road again. 306 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: That business trip starts a little bit early, but that 307 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 2: focus is that much more intense. 308 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 4: How does that change things? 309 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: Because it's interesting that you know, sofi stadium rams, it's 310 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: not known as this like treacherous fan environment. 311 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 4: Like we were just experienced at Ford Field. 312 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I've never heard a crowd like ford Field, 313 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: like I mean I have, but only in like massive 314 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: games and sometimes we're in the press boxes and we 315 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: have those closed air press boxes. So like in Seattle, 316 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: for instance, I didn't hear a thing. I'm sure the 317 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: Twelfth Man is awesome. I've heard great things, but like 318 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: me being in the press box not a thing. But 319 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: Ford Field is wide open and my ears are still 320 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: ringing like a few days later, so we're thinking so 321 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: Ifi stadium and as a player you don't really have 322 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: to worry about that too much. 323 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 4: Can that be an advantage, you. 324 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 3: Know for me? 325 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: And I think the best way to prepare is to 326 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: try and block out as much of that stuff as 327 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 2: you can. Obviously, on a game day, when you do 328 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 2: have that noise, it's just more difficult to make communication, 329 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 2: you know, on the offensive side. 330 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 3: Defense. 331 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 2: Defense can be a little bit better on the road 332 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: because they're quiet for that opposing offense, and so you 333 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 2: can do a little bit more on the verbal communication 334 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 2: side with your signaling. So I think it's just important 335 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: to prepare the best you can and understand that games 336 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: always come down to execution. You make a few plays 337 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: here or there, even in that first half again Detroit, 338 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: and maybe get that safety call that should have been 339 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 2: galled against GoF right, little things like that, you know, 340 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 2: you get after that, But little things like that, you 341 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 2: don't worry about the environment so much as really just 342 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: kind of vectoring. 343 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 3: In, zeroing in on your job on. 344 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 2: That particular play, because it always comes down to particular plays, 345 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 2: and the thing is you just don't know which of 346 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 2: those five or six plays are going to be the 347 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 2: difference in the game. 348 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: So let's kind of look forward to Monday night and 349 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: we're watching the game. Is what are the Vikings doing 350 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: right in order to walk away and keep their season alive. 351 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 2: Well, I think offensively, particularly in the middle of that 352 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 2: offensive line, you're going to need better play there. There 353 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 2: are a couple of times where they kind of lost 354 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: blitzers in the middle, and it's kind of something that 355 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: happened in the first game two against the lines, and 356 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: I think three of the first sacks came from the 357 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: linebacker level. So it's really I think the interior of 358 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: that offensive line. You always need to be stout at tackle, 359 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,959 Speaker 2: but I think from a running back perspective and helping 360 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 2: out with pass protection, you really kind of have to 361 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 2: put a little bit more emphasis on those blitzers. Make sure, 362 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: especially if you're a running back out, you don't leak 363 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 2: a little bit too early, even if one of those linebackers. 364 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 2: Blitzing is the assignment of one of the linemen. 365 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: Okay, and then defensively, I mean, this unit was not 366 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: able to get a sack on Matthew Stafford. 367 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 4: How can they bring him to the Crown and. 368 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: Just be sure to rattle his game because you know 369 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: he's a vet. 370 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 4: It's like a Jared Goff situation. 371 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: You know, he's you've got a pressure him, or he's 372 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: just gonna do his checkdowns and then hit you with 373 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: a deep ball. 374 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, he'll light you up. 375 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 2: And you know that Super Bowl victory that they had 376 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 2: against the Bengals, that's actually the only Super Bowl that 377 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: I've ever been to, and that was out there at SOFI, 378 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 2: so I saw Stafford to operate in real time and 379 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: you know, had the no look pass and everything like that. 380 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 3: He's been around the game a long time. He's seen everything. 381 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: So it really does come down to execution, and it's 382 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 2: really about execution of your particular technique. You know, we 383 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 2: think of units all the time, but it's really it 384 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 2: comes down a lot of times. And this is Brian 385 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: Floores in the way that he designs things. You want 386 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 2: to try and get isolation on the outside. You know, 387 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: you want Van Ginkle and Grenard to have those opportunities 388 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 2: to be one on one against tackles, and then for 389 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 2: them it's kind of reaching into that bag of tricks, 390 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 2: the toolkit that they have from a pack rush tool 391 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 2: standpoint and going out and executing it, because you are 392 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 2: going to have to try and find a way to 393 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 2: pressure him because, as you said, you give him time, 394 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 2: he's going to make you pay. 395 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: All right, Robert, Well, one more thing before we let 396 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: you head out. This coaching staff, this locker room chemistry. 397 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: As someone who's been in several locker rooms before, what's 398 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: it been like to see that evolve. 399 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 4: Over the year or over this season for this Viking screen? 400 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 4: Like how special is it? 401 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 3: It's been great? 402 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: And you know, Coach O'Connell invited me up to talk 403 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,959 Speaker 2: to the team in the summer of twenty three, and 404 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 2: as you know, I'm up there a fair amount of time, 405 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 2: so I've been in that locker room. I've seen these 406 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: guys and they really are a great unit. And I 407 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 2: think it's just it's, you know, from the top down 408 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 2: in the organization, from the Will family down to Quasi 409 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 2: and a coach of course, with coach O'Connell and his staff, 410 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 2: they're a very sincere group. And you know, there's the 411 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 2: saying that players don't care what you know until they 412 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 2: know that you care when you're a coach, and I 413 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 2: think you certainly have that not just with the staff, 414 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 2: but you have that from the organization, and so this 415 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: is a group that believes in themselves, but they also 416 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 2: understand that that belief has to come with an understanding 417 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 2: of what it is that you didn't do the previous 418 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: week that you're going to need to do on the 419 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 2: road to come away with the victory this time. 420 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: Okay, Monday night, Robert, what's the setup look like? How 421 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: are we how do we game prep for this throughout Monday? 422 00:19:59,240 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 4: Are you? You know? 423 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: Do you go about your day normally? Do you think 424 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 1: about it? Do you watch some tape? Like what are 425 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: you doing to get ready? 426 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 3: No? 427 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 2: No, I don't do a whole unless I'm calling a game. 428 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 2: There's not a whole lot of prep going on. Being 429 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 2: excited about it, you know, it takes me back I remember, 430 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 2: you know on those late games, a lot of times 431 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: you're sitting around the hotel and you can't wait until 432 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 2: that and get started. So you kind of experience that 433 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 2: from Afar because you know that the players are going 434 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 2: through it, and you think about what they're going through. 435 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 3: But I'm just excited. I'm excited for them to have. 436 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 2: An opportunity to go out and get the taste of 437 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 2: ford Field out. 438 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 3: Of their mouth. 439 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: Me too, Me too, Because for me, I've loved the 440 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: way that this team has responded whether they're bad games. 441 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: I mean, they just didn't have a very like spirited 442 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: performance against Jacksonville and watching them come back and be 443 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: so confident, I really think that that's the key, just 444 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: finding that confidence once more and not letting that get 445 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: to you thinking it's a fluke. 446 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 4: Thinking it's like, we know what we did. 447 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: And like, the one thing I took away from Kevin 448 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: O'Connell's press conference that I thought was just really really 449 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: awesome is that we're going to look at ourselves in 450 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: the mirror and be accountable for our mistakes, but we 451 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: want to know why it happened. So it's not being 452 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,479 Speaker 1: upset or pointing fingers or anything like that. It's about 453 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: being accountable and understanding the why, which I mean, if 454 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: that's what we're going off of, I have a lot 455 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: of confidence this week. 456 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I mean that's that's what it comes down to. 457 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 3: The tape doesn't lie. 458 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: Well, your tape never lied. We love having you, Robert Smith. 459 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for everything that you do for us, 460 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: for being one of our awesome vikings. Legends and if 461 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: we have a playoff game back here, Robert, I expect 462 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: to see you. 463 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 4: Okay, deal, all right, deal, Thank you so much, appreciate you, 464 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 4: all right. 465 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 3: Thanks Adam. 466 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 4: Laurie, Thank you. 467 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: So much to former Vikings running back Robert Smith, one 468 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,959 Speaker 1: of my all time favorite Vikings legends, to catch up too. 469 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,719 Speaker 1: I love the fact that he still watches all the games, 470 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: is still so invested in what our team is doing, 471 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: and what they are doing right now is heading to 472 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 1: Los Angeles for the first round of the NFL playoffs. 473 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 4: Fans, don't forget. 474 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: It is a Monday night football kickoff from Sofi Stadium. 475 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 4: And if you're trying to get. 476 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: Into the Viking spirit, check out Vikings dot com. 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