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Speaker 1: This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan

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Speaker 1: Lazar and Alex Barth. I'm in Lazar Lazar. Everybody nailed it,

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Speaker 1: joined us always buy our bark Das match. Here he's

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Speaker 1: Evan Lazar and Alex Barr. I know this sounds like

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Speaker 1: a first world problem or Evan It totally more. Evan

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Speaker 1: story of my life. I feel like every every other week,

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Speaker 1: do not make me poor? Even you two shows, there's

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Speaker 1: some sort of poor Evan moment all all season long.

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Speaker 1: And I would even have a little bit of an

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Speaker 1: game or something like that on Thanksgiving, you know whatever.

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Speaker 1: It was Alex in the in the brigade, down in

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Speaker 1: the media workroom, Poor Evan, Oh my goodness, A right,

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Speaker 1: I get it, all right, it's first world problem. I'm spoiled.

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Speaker 1: I am very lucky. I understand that that doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: that sometimes you know, things are are kind of stinky,

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Speaker 1: all right, Alex Evan Lazar, Alex Barth Patriots Catch twenty two.

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Speaker 1: We got a big theme of the show today. Okay,

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Speaker 1: hang on, before we start, Before we started real quick,

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Speaker 1: I was, you know, I'm in the other room. I

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Speaker 1: got here early. I was listening. It was killed. He's

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Speaker 1: texting me from the other room. I was trying to

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Speaker 1: get you to laugh on air. Yeah, you walked into

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Speaker 1: a poll. Okay. So we were telling old stories about

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Speaker 1: when we went to Patriots games as fans, you know,

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Speaker 1: into a Gillette stadium telephone poll outstanding. Yes, and I was,

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Speaker 1: I just needed that story. Yep. So there's that story again.

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Speaker 1: So everybody that was listening to Chiltern has now heard

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Speaker 1: it twice today. Okay, now we can get into your themes.

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Speaker 1: So I like themes. I enjoyed when we do this

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Speaker 1: because I think it's a good jumping off point for

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Speaker 1: the show. So everybody wants to talk wide receivers. It's

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Speaker 1: the it's the fun position. Let's face it, it's the

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Speaker 1: fun position to talk about it. It's not the only

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Speaker 1: position the Patriots need by any stretch of the imagination

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Speaker 1: this offseason, but it's the fun position to talk about.

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Speaker 1: So my theme, my question that I want to present

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Speaker 1: dot com. And this goes hand in hand with what

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Speaker 1: How would you like the Patriots to go about upgrading

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Speaker 1: them draft a wide receiver? Do you even believe that

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Speaker 1: they actually have better receivers than we think because of

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Speaker 1: So what direction would you like to see the Patriots

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Speaker 1: one of those guys, right, one of the one and

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Speaker 1: But let's start there, Alex, how would you ideally Now

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Speaker 1: What are you giving up for Jerry Judy? So I

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Speaker 1: And if I am the Patriots, the fourteenth overall pick

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Speaker 1: I would say that that needs to be on the table.

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Speaker 1: If you look across the league. The teams that were

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Speaker 1: Jacoby would be a decent compliment to those guys. But unfortunately,

425
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Speaker 1: now you're allocating like millions at that point. That's my thing,

426
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,120
Speaker 1: like they're gonna have to spend that kind of money

427
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Speaker 1: on a wide receiver. I don't there there is a

428
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Speaker 1: way in where keeping Jacoby makes sense strategically. Yeah, if

429
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Speaker 1: you take the money out of it, like you just said,

430
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Speaker 1: if you pair with T Higgins, that's out pairing right, right,

431
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: it's Tyler Boyd and T Higgins. But Patriot version right

432
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 1: and Tyler Boyd I think is a guy. He's very

433
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 1: similar to Kobe Myners, although you don't have Jamar Chase.

434
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 1: But it's it's it's it's an embarrassment of riches there

435
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati shout out tracks. Yeah, I don't there, there's

436
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:20,439
Speaker 1: not They're not going to spend all that money on

437
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 1: one position. They're just not so to go out and

438
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 1: get that guy that we're talking about. I don't like it.

439
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 1: I don't like that we can't spend all that money

440
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 1: on one but I don't like it. This show's not

441
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 1: about what we would do. Nobody cares what we would do.

442
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 1: We're not running the team. Well, I'm telling you that

443
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: you the team needs to change. Is thinking. We just

444
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 1: got an email from Mike, okay, and Mike said, this

445
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 1: is exactly what I'm saying, is I have an issue

446
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 1: with with the way the Patriots think about these things,

447
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 1: and I'm getting mad at them for something they haven't

448
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: even done yet, Like, I just want to put that

449
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 1: out there. Maybe they do change their thinking, but based

450
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Speaker 1: off of their thinking, Mike writes, Bill would never trade

451
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Speaker 1: number fourteen for t Higgins. Higgins is allegedly demanding a

452
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Speaker 1: fortune to resign. Welcome to twenty twenty three, right, okay?

453
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: Where aj Brown goes for a first round pick and

454
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars, where Tyree Hill goes for six

455
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 1: draft picks and one hundred million dollars. That's the market.

456
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 1: That's the world we live in now. If you want

457
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,439
Speaker 1: to compete, we read off the stats earlier. And this

458
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 1: is why I wanted to get out there that the

459
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,880
Speaker 1: numbers earlier on the top four teams in the playoffs

460
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 1: this year, the semifinalists, and where they ranked in passing efficiency.

461
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 1: If you want to compete at that level, we are

462
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: at the point in NFL times, whatever you want to

463
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 1: call it, where you need to be an elite passing attack.

464
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: You need to be a top ten passing offense in

465
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Speaker 1: the NFL to win anything anymore. We can just look

466
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Speaker 1: at the last five years as a sample, right, If

467
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Speaker 1: you want to go case study like super Bowl matchups,

468
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,479
Speaker 1: we can do that. If you want to just go

469
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 1: trend in the league, we can do that too. If

470
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Speaker 1: you are not in a lead passing offense, you are

471
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 1: not winning jack in the league anymore. So this notion

472
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Speaker 1: that they can't give up a draft pick and a

473
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Speaker 1: big contract to a wide receiver, because that's not what

474
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Speaker 1: Bill would do. That needs to be what Bill does, right,

475
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: He needs to change. They need to adapt because that

476
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 1: is now becoming the second quarterback, right, Like the contracts,

477
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: the assets needed for it, all of it is becoming

478
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Speaker 1: the second quarterback. And that's just the reality of the situation.

479
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: And if you don't do that, you're gonna be stuck

480
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Speaker 1: throwing the football to the guys that they've been throwing

481
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 1: the football to the next couple of last couple of years,

482
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Speaker 1: which are those mid tier players, and you're never gonna

483
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Speaker 1: get there like that, You're never gonna get there. Now. Obviously,

484
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Speaker 1: drafting them is the best way to go because that's

485
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Speaker 1: the cheapest wor out. You draft a guy, he's on

486
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Speaker 1: a rookie contract, he's cost effective, he's yours for at

487
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 1: least four years. Like that's the best way to go

488
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Speaker 1: about it. But the problem that we have, and we'll

489
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Speaker 1: get into the list here shortly, is that they're not

490
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Speaker 1: very good at that. Right. Can I add one thing

491
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Speaker 1: to what you just said, and it's kind of off

492
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Speaker 1: to the side, but I feel like we need to

493
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Speaker 1: hammer this point home because I feel like there's people

494
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: listening to me talking about don't get the X, get

495
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: the slot and yards after the catch and rolling their eyes.

496
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Speaker 1: You need to be a good passing offense. That doesn't

497
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Speaker 1: mean you need to be the Buffalo Bills or Kansas

498
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Speaker 1: City Chiefs. You can be a good passing offense without

499
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Speaker 1: having an elite down field presence. I mean the Chiefs

500
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: didn't have a really an elite downfield presence this year.

501
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: You're right, and honestly, in the Super Bowl we're to

502
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 1: turn for them when they started with the yards after

503
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 1: catch opportunities. San Francisco forty nine ers ranked twenty fourth

504
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: in the league last year in yards before the catch,

505
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Speaker 1: and now that you brought up the Chiefs, I'm trying

506
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: to find them they are. Wow, they might be anyway.

507
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Speaker 1: San Francisco, for the Niners, actually had the same yards

508
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Speaker 1: before the catches the Patriots. The difference is they added

509
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Speaker 1: two yards per catch after right, So I just I

510
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: want to clarify what we're saying. You need to have

511
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Speaker 1: a great passing offense, but there's more than one way

512
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Speaker 1: to do that. Yeah, And that's why, Like, that's why

513
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: I look at it and say, well, Jerry Judas should

514
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Speaker 1: be on the table, and I get he's not Te Higgins,

515
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,479
Speaker 1: but there's another way to do this, yeah, right, Yeah, No,

516
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: I like Jerry Judy too. I would take ry. The

517
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: Chiefs are tied for twenty fourth with the Niners. Yeah,

518
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: they were not a big time passing downfield passing offense

519
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: this year. They always have been, but not this year

520
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: because they Tyrell the receivers broke the most tackles. Though.

521
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Speaker 1: I just I think that this line of thought. I

522
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: know some people have this line of thought, like with

523
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 1: similar things with roster building, like team speed on defense, linebacker,

524
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: like that sort of thing. And I'm not necessarily dismissing

525
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: that either. They need to evolve what they're thinking at

526
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: the wide receiver position. They tried to do the let's

527
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 1: just pay a couple of different guys and spread the

528
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: ball around two off seasons ago, and they signed Agalore

529
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 1: and they signed Kendrick Bourne and Hunter Henry and it

530
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: made it better, but it didn't make it great, right,

531
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Speaker 1: and they need to be great to win super Bowls

532
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Speaker 1: and compete for championships in this league now. And I

533
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: know there's a whole conversation about the quarterback and that.

534
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest too. They tried to do

535
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: the spread of a round thing and then had an

536
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator that refused to spread the ball around. That

537
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: didn't help either, Right, So that's where we're at. I

538
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: want to take this call from Patty and then we'll

539
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: get into my rankings. But I really feel like we

540
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: need to just change. I understand what you're saying that

541
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: people care what we think Bill's gonna do. They don't

542
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 1: care what Evans are and Alex bart would do. But

543
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: I'm telling you what I think that they need to

544
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: evolve from things. So for what it's worth, For what

545
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 1: it's worth, we did this on the show a couple

546
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. Evan, we haven't heard the term uncharacteristically

547
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: aggressive yet we need that. But some of these moves

548
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: they've made, it does feel different. So I think totally

549
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: going by the status quo, is it right either. I

550
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: think that we do need to leave room for them

551
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 1: to expand and grow. But to me, that's trading for

552
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: t Higgins and paying him one hundred million dollars. I

553
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 1: think then paying Jacobe Myers another sixty. Now. I don't

554
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: know that they're willing to go to that step yet,

555
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: but I know I could see them growing to the

556
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: point where they see the success the Dolphins had the

557
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: Eagles had, and they they're willing to take that step.

558
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: Just yeah, to close the book on my Jacoby thing,

559
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: I think if Jacoby ends up becoming below comes in

560
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: below that market value, let's say he's closer to like

561
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: ten to twelve, yeah, then I think you start to

562
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Speaker 1: entertain that as good wide receiver two money. Let's say

563
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: it becomes like three for forty, yeah, then then three forty,

564
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: and I think four for forty. I don't think he

565
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: takes like I think he'll get better than that, but

566
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Speaker 1: three for forty and then for the Patriots you buy

567
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: that year back. I could see that's that's yeah, like

568
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: you said good second receiver money. Yeah, And there's a

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Speaker 1: Jack email didn't and said that there's no way Jacoby's

570
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: work that I go ask the Jaguars and Christian Kirk

571
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: how much Jacobe is working. Yeah, player, here's an open market.

572
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: He's worth it. I'm not saying he's worth it. I'm

573
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: saying on the opening, but he it's it's look I

574
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: gotta see in economics in college, but I understand this

575
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: much an asset And I hate to refer to like

576
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: people as assets, but it's the only way to do this. Yeah,

577
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: an asset is worth whatever the market deems their worth.

578
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers, it doesn't matter what you think Jacoby Myers

579
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: is worth. These contracts get bigger and bigger every year

580
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: because the calf gets bigger and bigger every year. Jacoby

581
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: Myers is only worth as much as the team that's

582
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: willing to pay him the most money. And I guarantee

583
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: you it's going to be more than we think it is,

584
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: especially if he hits unrestricted free agency, because he's probably

585
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: going to be the best wide receiver. Yeah. Yeah, And

586
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: then then you get into supplying demand like it's a

587
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: it's a good year to be a wide receiver free agent.

588
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: It really is, all right, Patty, what's going on going on? Guys?

589
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: Not much? So quick quick comment and quick question for

590
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: you guys, Alex, I love your take on Mahomes being

591
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: rogers of balls. Thank him. My question is, have you

592
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: guys taken a look at Mozzy Smith's defensive lineman's from

593
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: Michigan yet? And I'll throw out some some sets per

594
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: Seldman's freaklist over the summer. He had a thirty three

595
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: inch vertical nine four five broad jump and a nine

596
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: six five three cone time. He also loved twenty two

597
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: reps of three twenty five pounds on the bench press

598
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: in the NFL, all the uses to twenty five. I

599
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: have not looked at him yet. I did some stuff

600
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: on defensive lineman, but it just his defensive lineman in general.

601
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Speaker 1: And thanks for the call, Patty. I'm not really sure

602
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: how you can always use another big body up front,

603
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: right like you can get that covered stock every year

604
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: if they took a defensive lineman in the fourth round

605
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: just to keep it rolling like no one's gonna complain.

606
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: But I have a tough time seeing that as like

607
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: a major need that there. I don't think this guy

608
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: is like a top one hundred pick or anything. He

609
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: has no he is, he's gonna he's he might sneak

610
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: in the first round. Okay, well, he's one of these guys.

611
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: You know how I feel about Jordan Davis. I'm not

612
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: going to compare him to Jordan Davis because I don't

613
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: think he's that level of athlete. He's not going to

614
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: run sub five but six, three, three thirty seven and

615
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: then the numbers he mentioned there was some of the

616
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: ways he moves. He is a great athlete. He's gonna

617
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: kill the combine. It's gonna shoot his stock up. Yeah,

618
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: I take it if the Patriots won it, but they're

619
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: gonna have to use forty six to get him. And

620
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. We saw some guys in Look, they're

621
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: not three hundred forty pounds like Smith is. But whether

622
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: it be Dante Stills, Moro Joemo, some of the guys

623
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: you saw at the Shrine Bowl, it's a it's a

624
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: pretty good year for defensive tackles. I don't think that

625
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: they're in a spot where they need to overextend at

626
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: that position. And Smith's a great player, but I don't

627
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: think they need to be that aggressive at that spot.

628
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: I think that, Yeah, I guess defensive line. To me,

629
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: they have to be so far in a way best

630
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: player available when they come up to pick, and they

631
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: don't want to move off the pick, right obviously, they

632
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: don't want to trade down or something like that. Where

633
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: you know, I watched the kid from Texas Tech, Tyree Wilson.

634
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: I think is his name really talented player? I mean

635
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: he's he jumps off the film at you, all the

636
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: things that you would want to see what the player

637
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,719
Speaker 1: like that. But taking that guy at fourteen don't I

638
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: don't know right like it's it's not really the best

639
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: way to use that asset this year. I don't thank Yes,

640
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: that's all my opinion is. All right, let's get to

641
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: the wide receiver rankings that I posted today, kind of

642
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: use that to piggyback on this conversation and turn to

643
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: the draft. We talked a lot about you know, NFL players, right,

644
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: veteran players that they could go out and acquire, and

645
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: Jacobe Meyers and things like that. So I posted this

646
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: this morning or late afternoon, and there's definitely some pushback

647
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: on one player in particular, and we're going to talk

648
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: about it a little bit. Talked about it a little

649
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: bit impu as well, but we can get my take.

650
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: But I think originally what my plan here was this

651
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: is sort of tiered as well as ranked. Right, So

652
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: I think it's also it's for the Patriots, it's not

653
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: just overall. That's a really big piece of it. And

654
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: what I was going to kind of explain with the

655
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: guy that I'm saying was a little bit controversial where

656
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: I had him ranked, is that this is one hundred

657
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: and ten percent through a Patriot lens, like, who are

658
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: the best fits in the draft for the New England Patriots.

659
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: If I were to make a rankings list of just

660
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: the best receivers in the draft, it would probably look

661
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: a little bit different than it came out. Okay, so

662
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: these first four names, and I'll do it by the tiers.

663
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: Would I read them out? These first four names? I

664
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: feel like, are the tier one guys in this draft?

665
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: So are these the guys you'd use the fourteenth pick on?

666
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: So this is a problem, right, This is an interesting question.

667
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: This is tough because to me, the first tier should

668
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: be the guys you'd take with the fourteenth pick. So

669
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if I would take any of these

670
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: guys with the fourteen I love that, honestly. I love that.

671
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: That's because about so many people say just take the

672
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: first round wide receiver. I heard you guys talking about

673
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: this on Pee as well. With the quarterback, right, we'll

674
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: just take the second round athletic quarterback. That guy's not

675
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: in this draft. Every draft class is structure differently. There

676
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: are guys, and this is true at every position every year.

677
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: A player being a first round talent does not necessarily

678
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: mean he's a first round pick, and a player being

679
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: a first round pick does not mean he's a first

680
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: round talent. It can go both ways. Yeah, take a

681
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: wide receiver at fourteen doesn't mean anything unless you attach

682
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: a name to it. You don't just get to say,

683
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: take a wide receiver for what if they're some of

684
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: these guys that we're gonna talk about who are gonna

685
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 1: go in the top ten might not have been first

686
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: round picks last year. Period. Take a wide receiver at

687
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 1: fourteen doesn't mean anything. It's relative, right, It's all relative.

688
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: So this is I didn't want to get too into

689
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: the big picture of the draft with this because I

690
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: really just wanted to talk names. But I think the

691
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: one thing that I after doing the deep dive into

692
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: this class, the one thing that I do see as

693
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: so I guess I can not a concern to worry,

694
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. Twenty through forty feels

695
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: like the sweet spot for this draft a wide receiver

696
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: from that instance, I know when I bring up this draft,

697
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: everybody cries about nik Kill Harry, But this draft reminds

698
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 1: me a lot of the twenty nineteen draft where Hollywood

699
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: Brown was the first wide receiver taken. I think he

700
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: was like twenty fifth, right, and then Nikkil Harry was

701
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: the second one, and he was thirty two, and then

702
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: all the good guys went early day two, mid day two, right,

703
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: like you know, the A J. Browns, A Deebo, Samuel's

704
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: DK McLaurin, like all those guys came after that. So

705
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: this draft reminds me a lot of that draft, where

706
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: I think a lot of these guys have the potential

707
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: to be studs in the NFL, but their sweet spot

708
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: is probably a little bit further down the board than

709
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: where the Patriots are currently at. So my tier one

710
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: sort of guys here number one on my list, and

711
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: it will be number one on my list unless he

712
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: absolutely bombs the forty yard dash at the combine Jackson

713
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: Smith and Jigbo from Ohio state number one. I thought,

714
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: you think he's not gonna run. So I looked, I

715
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: looked to Dick dug into this a little bit, and

716
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: it said that he is planning was going to be

717
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: healthy enough to participate at the combine. So if he

718
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: participates at the combine, we talk about this all the time.

719
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: If he's running a forty at the combine, that means

720
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 1: he's gonna run faster than we think, right, if he's

721
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: not going to run fast and he's going to run right,

722
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: or maybe he'll wait for his pro day where he

723
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 1: gets a little bit of a nicer clock, a little

724
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: bundy right, So if he runs at the combine, he's

725
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: gonna run quick. So to me, the reason why I

726
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 1: like him so much is his just his route running,

727
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: his nuance. But I think that his suddenness is quickness

728
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: at the top of the route, off the line of scrimmage,

729
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: like those are the separation qualities that I think stand out,

730
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more sometimes than just straight line speed.

731
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: I think sometimes we get infatuated with forty times in

732
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: straight line speed when what we're really looking for is

733
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 1: guys that can separate. And I think js N separates

734
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: with that suddenness, with that burstiness at the top of

735
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: the route off the line of scrimmage, of those little

736
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: sudden movements of lateral agility where he can just explode

737
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: quickly in a cut and get in and out of

738
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: the break and create separation. Some of the player comps

739
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: that I've used for him in the past, like a

740
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: guy like a mon Ross Saint Brown who ran like

741
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: a four six right, but it's just tearing it up.

742
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: I mean he's got like two thousand yards in his

743
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: first two years. Jarvis Landry back in the day, Yeah,

744
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry, those types of guys, Jarvis Landry in the

745
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: same forty is Jordan Davis. Yeah he was. He might

746
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: have been hurt when he ran that for I know,

747
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: But like it's still I just my thing with Smith

748
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: and Jigla and look, I say this take now. I

749
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,919
Speaker 1: reserve the right to change my mind if after seeing

750
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: him run. Yeah, they need that yak ability, And so

751
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: I think you watch the Super Bowl, guys like Darius Tony,

752
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: guys like Isaiah Pacheco who could create after the catch.

753
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: They need speed, Evan, I just they need speed. It's fair.

754
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: I don't know if he has like home run speed.

755
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 1: I don't think he does. Where he's gonna take a

756
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 1: five yard slant and turn it into a forty yard game.

757
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: But I think he'll take a five yard slant and

758
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: turn it into a twelve yard game. Right. And if

759
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: he can be a hundred catch guy out of the

760
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: slot that averages eleven twelve yards per catch, that's a star,

761
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: a straw that stirs the drink type of god. They've

762
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: always been able to find that guy elsewhere, either it

763
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 1: was Edelman or Welk or like they've been. You don't

764
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: need to use the fourteenth pick on that guy. I

765
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: just don't think that that happens anymore. I don't think

766
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: you find that guy elsewhere like it did ten years ago.

767
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: Maybe not undrafted or in a throw away trade, but

768
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: I don't think you need to use the fourteenth pick

769
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: on that guy either. And if they wanted Jake, but

770
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: they have to use the fourteenth pick, that's fair. They

771
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: have to at least trade down and target him in

772
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: the first round. Sure, and look, if they get a

773
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: guy like Tiggy, well then they wouldn't have them. Ok So,

774
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: so j I'm in fatuate with JSM because I just

775
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: watch his film and I'm like, that's because you like

776
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: him as the route runner. That's how that's how it's

777
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 1: supposed to. Let me ask you this. You're you're talking

778
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: about the ceiling, right, you said the ceiling is like

779
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 1: a Monross Saint Brown. Yes, how different is he than

780
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: Kendrick Bourne, A Monross Saint Brown, No, Smith and Jiba

781
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: different when you look at the projection, different in what way?

782
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 1: I think that he's way more consistent getting open. Okay,

783
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: I think he's way more consistent getting open as like

784
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: as a guy who can dictate coverage, I think he

785
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: dictates coverage in the middle of the field. I don't

786
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: necessarily think that you're talking about like we gotta you know,

787
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: comb bracket double or whatever. This guy like that. But

788
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: I think he keeps bodies in the middle of the

789
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: field for sure, and he has a really great understanding.

790
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: The whole problem is there's too many bodies in the

791
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: middle of the field already against them. They need to

792
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: spread it horizontally. I guess I don't know. I just

793
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: know that guy's gonna catch one hundred balls in the league.

794
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 1: That's all I know. I know. I know he's Jacobe Myers.

795
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: Now not like this. I think you're gonna drop that

796
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: guy into that Julian Edelman, Wes Welker, slot roll, Troy Brown, whatever,

797
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: and he's gonna catch a one hundred passes and he's

798
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: gonna have eleven hundred yards and he's gonna be an

799
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: absolute chain mover for you, just like he was in

800
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: Ohio State. I just think they need more more explosive

801
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: angle than Okay, So look, I think I think it.

802
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: Jack was the first round pick. I think he's a

803
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: really good player. But if we're gonna take if we're

804
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: doing a receiver at fourteen, I like this next guy lots,

805
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: So let's do two and three because here's your explosiveness, right.

806
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 1: I love Jordan Addison. And the reason why I probably

807
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: have Jordan Addison number two and not number one is

808
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: because I'm not trying to I'm trying not to be

809
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: biased towards Jordan Addison because he's a conduct I love him.

810
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: You were You were very openly stated you don't like

811
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve. I don't like the PAC twelve, So

812
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: I don't think it's biased if you put him ahead.

813
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: I really don't. I know how you feel about the

814
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: PAC twelve. I love Jordan Addison. Can I ask you

815
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: I keep interrupting you. But how much pit tape did

816
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: you watch of Addison? A little bit because his press

817
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: coverage rafts were much better at pit than they were

818
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: at SCA just statistically right, PFF had him as like

819
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: one of the best press coverage beaters in college football

820
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: the year before he was a lot better pit, And

821
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: I wonder how much this was like level of competition maybe, right, Well,

822
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: but you hate the Pack twelve, I do, But he

823
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: played in the Pac twelve against Clark Phillips, against Key

824
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: Blue Kelly, like against the NFL corners. I don't know

825
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: if he was facing those guys at pit, not really,

826
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: not if he wasn't facing Clembs anymore. Right, So, when

827
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: I looked at him against Clark phil Ups, who's probably

828
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 1: going to be like a top fifty's definitely be top fifty.

829
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: He probably like fringe first round corner from Utah. His

830
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: biggest problem was playing through contact getting off a press

831
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: coverage and I would say even more so than that,

832
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: once he got off the line of scrimmage, actually separating

833
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: vertically over the top and being able to stack the

834
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: corner and then finished by holding the line and catching

835
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: the football right like that type of skill I don't

836
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: think is necessarily there for Jordan Addison, but he is

837
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 1: absolutely explosive, like he's a burst of energy right whenever

838
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: he gets on the field. He's versatile, can play inside,

839
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: he can play a little bit outside. When he faces

840
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: off coverage, forget it, like he eats up off coverage.

841
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: Like his breaks are fantastic. I love how he's deceptive

842
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 1: and his routes to every route looks the same coming

843
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 1: off the line, which makes it really difficult to defend,

844
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: especially at that speed. And then you also want the

845
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 1: scheme touches, the yak, the Cadarius tony like that. He's

846
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: got that element of his game as well. And Lincoln

847
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: Riley really featured that last year at SC, so he

848
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: can do all the those things. The pro comp is

849
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: DeVante Smith. I think he's DeVante Smith two point zero

850
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: with one huge caveat DeVante was much better at beating

851
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: press coverage at Alabama than Addison is at USC. But

852
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: if you can scheme him away from contact, like I know,

853
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 1: a good coach like Bill O'Brien can, he's a stud

854
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: and you've also seen him beat press elsewhere. Might have

855
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: just been a down year kind of thing, right, Yeah,

856
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 1: So I just he doesn't pull away from press corners, right,

857
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: they they grind him down, and that worries me a

858
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: little bit. I just think that versatility, the explosiveness, all

859
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 1: of it. You give him to a guy like Bill O'Brien,

860
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: this is the kind of like I think js N

861
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: would be very good in New England. I do, but

862
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be like an all

863
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: pro here in this system. Addison's got that potential. Jordan Addison,

864
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: if they use him correctly, has top ten, maybe top

865
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: five receiver in the league. Potentially He's and I'm not

866
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: saying he's definitely going to get there, but I love

867
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: his ceiling way more. And if they're really going to

868
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: do this and take a wide receiver in the first round, yeah,

869
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: I'm all boom. So I just want the boom. So

870
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: this is funny because I have Jason is number one,

871
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: because I'm I'm a I'm a tactician, right like I'm

872
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: a nerd, and when a guy runs the route the

873
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: right way, it gets me all hot and bothered. It does.

874
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: Right when you are told, Okay, we gotta run a

875
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: twelve yard dig, and you run a twelve yard dig

876
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, that guy's the dude, right right. I would

877
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: take Jordan Addison at fourteen over js N. I take

878
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: George Yeah, okay, well so then why do you have

879
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: him ranked lower? Because I just think Jordan. I think

880
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: Jason is a better player right now. But I would

881
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: take but you you we started this whole thing by

882
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 1: saying the list is it's about who's a fit for

883
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: the Patriots. I would take you didn't adhere to your

884
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: own rules. I love this. This is so peak sports radio.

885
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: I would take Jason. I would take Jordan Addison at

886
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: fourteen over js N because unless Jason runs like a

887
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: four four okay, so let me have if Jordan Addison

888
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: runs like or if if Jason runs low four fours,

889
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 1: all they take completely changing well because they're both Jays. Yeah,

890
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: um Addison to me for the exact act reason that

891
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: you just said, yeah potential seal ye right, I think

892
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: that that guy. And it's funny because when I thought

893
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: about this, I in my head, I was like, Addison's like,

894
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: it's still a little early from me at fourteen. But

895
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: then I remembered last year in the draft. You know,

896
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson goes ten Elave goes eleven, Jamison went twelve,

897
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: and then Johan Dotson right and at sixteen we thought

898
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: was the second round pick. So right, So this is

899
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: what this is the board. Quentin Johnson goes in the

900
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: top five, then jas sends off the board. Because I

901
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: do think there are teams that will have Jasen over Addison's,

902
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: like those who could go in the top ten. Now,

903
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Jordan Addison a fourteen. If that's

904
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,919
Speaker 1: the guy you want, makes a ton of sense. Love

905
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: that guy. Okay, number three on my list is everybody

906
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: else's favorite guy. So one more thing about George had

907
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: all your eagles out there. One more thing about Jordan

908
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: Addison because it hits the tradition, yeah, or it hits

909
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: the transition. Jordan Addison is what everybody around here thinks.

910
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: Zay Flowers is. Zay Flowers is number three. Yeah. I

911
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: like Zay Flowers. I do. I see a lot of

912
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: what everybody around here that gets them all hot and

913
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: bothered at Zay or bust like I see it. He

914
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: is an absolute jitterbug, like that is what he is.

915
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: He's quick off the line, he's quick at the top

916
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: of the round. He won, he runs a whip route

917
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: like Julian Edelman and Wes Welker would be proud of, right,

918
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: Like he can get open on that short underneath type

919
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 1: of stuff. He does that, and you want a guy

920
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: that can create after the catch. This is a guy

921
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: that can wiggle out of a tackle, slip a few

922
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: other dudes and break it forty yards down the sideline

923
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: and you wouldn't be surprised, right, Like that's Zay Flowers.

924
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: I also think that you have a little bit more

925
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: of a vertical element to his game than JSN and

926
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: Jordan Addison at BC at least, I don't know if

927
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 1: it will translate fully. We'll see, but his ability on

928
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: the outside on double moves, even against press coverage, Like

929
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: there's some really good reps of him getting off a

930
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: press you know, with his feet obviously, and he's not

931
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: a big guy. You're getting off with your feed and

932
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: then you're getting vertical like he can do that too.

933
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: He is a very very talented player. The size does

934
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: worry be and I know I'm like splitting hairs with

935
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: certain guys with size, but five nine, one eighty is

936
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: he built to catch eighty passes in the NFL? I

937
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: don't think he's ever gonna like, I don't think he

938
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,479
Speaker 1: needs to be one hundred twenty right, Like, he doesn't

939
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: need to be that volume because he's gonna hit some

940
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: big plays. But isn't he gonna be that volume if

941
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: they draft him? It's possible like here he might need

942
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 1: to like is he does his frame hold up over

943
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 1: eighty one hundred catches? And does his ability to get

944
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: off contact and get out, you know, get away from

945
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: physical coverage? Is that? Is he able to do that?

946
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: So the sort of yin and yang that I gave

947
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: was is he Hollywood Brown or is he Jalen Waddle? Right? Like?

948
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: Because those are the those are the two prototypes, right

949
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 1: and Hollywood Brown and Jalen Waddle are smaller, but it

950
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: came out they were both four to three guys. But

951
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: Waddle is an awesome player and Hollywood Brown is like fine, right, Like,

952
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: he's a fine player. So which one is he? Is

953
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: he gonna be? Which one? Which side of the spectrum

954
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: is he gonna fall on? Because I think it's possible

955
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: that he can go either in either direction. Honestly, that's

956
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: not even necessarily my concern. I just think he's pretty

957
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: similar to Jordan Addison, but Jordan Addison's a better player.

958
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: Jordan Adison's got was like probably like six feet sip.

959
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: So I just they're probably both gonna be there at fourteen.

960
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: I don't think Zay Flowers is a bad player, but

961
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: I'm taking Jordan Addison ten times out of ten between

962
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: the two of them, and I don't think either one's

963
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: going to be there at forty six. So if you

964
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: have a shot to draft one, odds are you have

965
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: a shot to draft both. And if you have a

966
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: shot to draft both, I'd much rather have Jordan Addison.

967
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: So that's why I can't get excited about Zay Flowers.

968
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: I do like Zay Flowers, though I do too, but

969
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: I like Jordan Haddie comparison. You know, I'm mentioned Jayalen

970
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: Waddle because I think Jayalen Waddle has come into the

971
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: league and as good as he is, he's a really

972
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: good player, don't get me wrong, But I don't know

973
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: if he's necessarily been and maybe it's just because of

974
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: the way Miami uses him, especially now with Tyreek, but

975
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: he's not been that like down the field vertical threat.

976
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: I think that most people thought he was coming out

977
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: He's been much more of like that slot receiver, right, Yeah,

978
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: And I think that maybe that ends up being where

979
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 1: Za ends up filling in in the NFL. Is more

980
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 1: of like a really really good slot receiver that wins

981
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: on the inside, that wins at the short and intermediate

982
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: levels and then picks up the acc not necessarily someone

983
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: that takes the top off the defense. And I think

984
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: that ends up ended up what happened a little bit

985
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: with Waddle, And that's okay. You know, Waddle's got what

986
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: like a hundred catches for twelve hundred yards this year

987
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah, that's in an offense where

988
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: there's a lot of mouse defeed. So I like that comparison.

989
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: I've also heard, just quickly with those A Flowers comparison.

990
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: I've heard a little bit on the field of Antonio

991
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: Brown comparisons with Yeah, I'm not sure. I think that's

992
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,959
Speaker 1: a very lofty Like there's certain guys that I best

993
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: receiver in the league. There's certain guys that I try

994
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: not to compare people too, right, Like, I'm not going

995
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: to compare anybody to Randy Moss because Randy Moss is

996
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: one of one as much as AB's a headcase. I

997
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: think ab As the player was one of one as well,

998
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: where I don't. I think that's unfair to put that

999
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 1: in ZAA Flowers category, But I can I can see

1000
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: from a playing style standpoint how you would get there.

1001
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,439
Speaker 1: That makes sense. But I can see something with Jordan

1002
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: Adison too. Yeah, Jordan Addison. I think it is just

1003
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: Davante Smith Ree Ducks. I really do. And that's on

1004
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: the I love Davant. I'm not saying that's a bad thing.

1005
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: Addison could be a slot receiver though, Yeah, I think so.

1006
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like, if he plays in the slot,

1007
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: I see, I see Antonio Brown, but he can play

1008
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: in the boundary too. Okay, So here's my last Tier

1009
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: one guy, and we got some calls. We'll take those

1010
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: and then we'll get it quickly. We'll do the rapid fire.

1011
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm more on the Tier two guys. Here's the big one. Yeah,

1012
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: number four on the list. The guy that everybody's already

1013
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: emailed in called in and told me how much of

1014
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: a dumb dumb I am for having him in the

1015
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: slow Quentin Johnston from TCU. Number four. Yeah, he's too

1016
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: talented to not have in the top five of my ranking.

1017
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: I'll give you that. I will also give you that

1018
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: if the Pittsburgh Steelers draft him in April, he's going

1019
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 1: to be a star. Yep. Or the Bengals. We know that.

1020
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: I name me the six foot four, two hundred and

1021
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: fifteen pound outside big X receiver. But the Patriots have

1022
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: drafted I will even go as far as to say

1023
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: have acquired that's not named Randy Moss. Right, that's turned

1024
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 1: out to be a good investment, by the way, T

1025
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: Hagan six four two nineteen. So you're campaigning for Higgs,

1026
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 1: but this is kind of the point, Right, who is

1027
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: name they name? Hey, don't do it. I mean the

1028
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: next closest guy, honestly, like in that prototype who had

1029
00:50:54,920 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: success here is probably Damarius Thomas. Did Marius Thomas had

1030
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: a success here? The next closest behind who was more

1031
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: successful than him in that prototype? Besides Moss? Like does

1032
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: Brandon Law? He's a different kind fell does he count?

1033
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: He was a different kind of receiver? Also? Is he

1034
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: that big? But he was definitely over six feet I

1035
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: don't know if he was that yeah, but I don't

1036
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 1: think he was like that. I never thought of him

1037
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: as like that big body jump all six, three two ten, Yeah,

1038
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: all right to Brandon Fell would be the next closest.

1039
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: And LaFell was already an NFL receiver, right like, he

1040
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: already in Carolina, so he came here at the end

1041
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: of his career. This is my thing with with this

1042
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: type of player. If you told me that the Patriots

1043
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: were going to go out and get DK Metcalf, I

1044
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: would tell you, Yeah, DK Metcalf's is stud He would

1045
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: be a study here. He would be a studded all

1046
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,919
Speaker 1: thirty two teams. But Seattle already developed DK Metcalf for

1047
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: you people, forget this. If DK Metcalf was drafted in

1048
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 1: New England, he wouldn't be DK met r exactly. It's

1049
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: nature verse nurture. The team that selects the play or

1050
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 1: the environment has as much to do with what the

1051
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: player becomes as the player himself. Quentin Johnston's strains are

1052
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: a parent. He averaged eighteen yards a catch last year

1053
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 1: at TCU. He has stat lines like Moss like stat

1054
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: line sometimes where it was like four for one sixty

1055
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: and two touchdowns right like, you know, just incredible big playability.

1056
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 1: He can get open down the field at ease. He

1057
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: wins at the catch point down the field. He uses

1058
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: that contested catchability at six foot four. I went back

1059
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: and watched the National Championship game at against Georgia, and

1060
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: if Duggan wasn't under siege the entire game, he got

1061
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: open down the field a couple of times, you know,

1062
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: for those big plays that he's known for. He's a

1063
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 1: runaway freight train with the football. If you can get

1064
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: him away from everybody right like they did it was

1065
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: against Michigan right where he came on the shallow and

1066
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 1: just takes a shallow drag sixty yards to the house,

1067
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: he can He can do that. If you ask him

1068
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: to cut at the top of the route and get open,

1069
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: he cannot do it. He wears coverage every single time

1070
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: he went up against Julius Brentz, who we both really like.

1071
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: He won every single time against Julian Sprents. Every time

1072
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: he ran a vertical he won. Though a couple of

1073
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: times that they asked him to run like an under

1074
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: or a slant or a dig, Brents was all over him.

1075
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: He can't separate at the top of the route. So

1076
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 1: unless they are gonna be able to build an offense

1077
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: with this quarterback, that can amplify a downfield threat like that,

1078
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: then Quentin Johnson is gonna have a tough time in

1079
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: this offense. And I don't think he's gonna kill Harry.

1080
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: I don't. I think he's more explosive than to Kill Harry,

1081
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: and I think that he's a much much more of

1082
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: a specimen than to kill Harry was. But is he

1083
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: Chad Jackson? Maybe so. Chad Jackson to me, is the

1084
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 1: camp because Chad Jackson was an athlete. Again, we didn't

1085
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: think Nick kill Harry was nickil Harry. To me, it's

1086
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: simpler than that. And I know I sound like a

1087
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: broken record, but here we go. They need speed, they

1088
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: need speed, And people come back and say, well, Quintin

1089
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: Johnson's gonna run a four four four four flat. Yeah,

1090
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: If Quinton Johnson at six fifteen runs a four four flat,

1091
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: you're not getting him in fourteen, right, He's going in

1092
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: the top five. Right. If Quinton Johnson runs the forty,

1093
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: that justifies the Patriots drafting him. They will not be

1094
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: able to draft him. It's a catch twenty two said

1095
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: the name of the show. He's not he can't be

1096
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: fast enough for you and still be on the board.

1097
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: At fourteen because he does other things so well that

1098
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: twists the brain a little at that point. At that

1099
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: point again, take Jordan Addison. Okay, so last thing on

1100
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: Quinton Johnston. And I'm sure we'll debate this until we're

1101
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: blue in the face for the next two months with

1102
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: people that disagree with me on this point, or ess

1103
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: I should say, because I think you're on my side.

1104
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: I really just want to hammer home the point that

1105
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: I think he will be a good player in the league. Yeah,

1106
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: I don't think he will be the player. He will

1107
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: not reach his potential with you, correct. And that's what

1108
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: we're talking about. And that's not just a Quinton Johnson thing,

1109
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: and that's not a Patriots thing. There are players the

1110
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: Patriots could draft that I think would hit their potential

1111
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: here that wouldn't hit their potential elsewhere. This is how

1112
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: the whole draft works. I said this two years ago.

1113
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 1: I said, we learned this lesson. I was going to

1114
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: make it a key point of whenever I cover the draft,

1115
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna bring it back. Will this player be

1116
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: good is not a question we can answer because it's

1117
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:19,240
Speaker 1: the team that drafts the player makes such a different

1118
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 1: look at what happen with Trevor Lawrence? Right, where does

1119
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,280
Speaker 1: he have that that bad first year if he doesn't

1120
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: go to Jackson. Let's say the Niners draft him. Does

1121
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: he have that lost first year? Does Zach Wilson completely

1122
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: fall apart if he goes to another team? Right? Uh?

1123
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: And it's not. It's in every position. Does Jamar Chase

1124
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: become Jamar Chase if he gets drafted by the Lions

1125
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: instead of the Bengals? Right? It's the team that drafts

1126
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 1: the player is such a part of the equation. So yeah,

1127
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: with Quinton and with certain guys, that's more true than others.

1128
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: There's some guys I think they go anywhere, they'll succeed

1129
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: to a certain level. To me, a guy like Quinton Johnson,

1130
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: I would know, as say Johnson and Za Furs, this

1131
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,879
Speaker 1: applies to both of them. People are calling into yell

1132
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: at me about their level of success will depend on

1133
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: where they end up in the scheme. They end up

1134
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: in very very last thing on Quentin Johnson, I promise

1135
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 1: is that he's terrible and you hate him. No, Remember,

1136
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: I late in the process. I'm not going to say

1137
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: I discovered Christian Watson, but I start I didn't really

1138
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 1: like Christian Watson. The difference that I, oh, it's Eldred.

1139
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,760
Speaker 1: I know he's calling in to argue about this, okay,

1140
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: the difference between a guy like Quentin Johnson and Christian Watson.

1141
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: Christian Watson was loose, like he was fluid in his movements,

1142
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,879
Speaker 1: and you saw it when they schemed touches for him

1143
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: on jet sweeps and stuff like that, where he could

1144
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: weave and he could cut and he could you know,

1145
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: elude defenders. Quinn Johnson is just a runaway freight trade, right, Like,

1146
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: that's what he is. And I just see a rigid

1147
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: athlete and that terrifies me for them. I just don't

1148
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: think that they get the most out of those types

1149
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: of players. And by the way, we didn't discover Christian Watson.

1150
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 1: Somebody on our old show on the YouTube commented and said,

1151
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,439
Speaker 1: you guys need to check this guy next. Andy Moss. Yeah, yeah,

1152
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 1: all right, Noah and Toronto, thanks for hanging on. Noah,

1153
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: what's up? Great? Um, I know you're talking about um

1154
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: wide receivers today, but actually the question about tackle. Sure, so,

1155
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: I think a common refrain on the show has been

1156
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: to sign one draft one. But I guess I just

1157
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: wonder where Trent Brown fits into that. Um, I think

1158
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: if you take use the first either first round or

1159
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: second round pick on a tackle and spend on like

1160
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,919
Speaker 1: Mike mcglencier Orlando Brown, I feel like it's kind of

1161
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: not the best juice of resources to be paying Trent

1162
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: Brown the fairway significant amount. So, uh, yeah, I guess

1163
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering how you guys view that. Yeah, good,

1164
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: it's a good question. Noah, thanks for calling in Soto baby.

1165
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: So I'm still what do you call it, Soto Soto

1166
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: Sign one draft? I'm still in that in that school

1167
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: thought for the most part. But I really love this

1168
00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: tackle class, And now that we can say report wordedly

1169
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: that Adrian clemm is supposed to be the offensive line

1170
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: coach next year, I'm a little bit more convinced that

1171
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 1: they can draft tackles and develop that. Yeah. So if

1172
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: that's the I'm a little bit getting a little bit

1173
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: off the Sign one train a little bit because I

1174
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: think that are Like, let's take our boy Duan Jones

1175
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 1: from Ohio State. He's probably just a better player than

1176
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: Mike McGlinchey, right, Like, yeah, I shouldn't say he's a

1177
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: better player, but like, like kind of like what Noah

1178
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: was saying, like cost allocation Duwan Jones on a rookie

1179
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: contract or sixty million dollars from Mike McGlinchey. Right, that's

1180
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: a conversation. So when I say signed one draft one,

1181
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: I'm talking about one left one right. And the thing

1182
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: with Trent is he had a down year. He's over thirty,

1183
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: and he's on the final year of his contract anyway,

1184
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: So and I hope I get the numbers right because

1185
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: I know I saw Miguel as listening and shout out

1186
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: to Miguel, Yeah, they save like ten million dollars, I

1187
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: believe if they cut Trent Brown, Yeah, you can go

1188
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: and spend that money significantly, Like that's a good player

1189
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: ten million dollars. And then so it's not you get

1190
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, You're not just like throwing money at

1191
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: a tackle who's not going to play. Even if Trent

1192
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: Brown comes back, though you sign a guy to play

1193
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: opposite for him. I would still like, in a class

1194
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: that's this deep at tackle, draft a guy and maybe

1195
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: it's not in the first round at that point. Maybe

1196
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: now we're getting in the second or third round, but

1197
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: use a premium pick, draft a tackle on a guy

1198
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: who is going to sit behind Trent Brown this year

1199
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: and develop and then next year because you're not resigning

1200
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: Trent Brown after this year. Next year, you have the

1201
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 1: guy you signed or drafted on one side and you

1202
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: have this guy you drafted on the left side. Right.

1203
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: So either like Trent Brown's almost irrelevant to this. They

1204
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: need they're going to need two tackles between this offseason

1205
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: and next season nowhere and depth. They're gonna need depth.

1206
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: They only have two tackles under contract in the draft

1207
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: because and maybe the double dip, you know, if we

1208
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: and if they end up using it on the receiver

1209
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 1: or something, you know, they trade the pack for a

1210
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: receiver or whatever. You know, maybe it's just like what

1211
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: they just did with the Jones is where it's a

1212
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 1: third and a fourth round double day, yeah or something.

1213
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: I don't love that as much. I still think early

1214
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: in mid I swear I would go with it too.

1215
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, if they end up having

1216
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: to not pivot from that idea, and maybe that's something

1217
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 1: that they could look. They need to come out of

1218
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: this offseason with at least one guaranteed plug and play

1219
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: starter tackle, whether that's in free agency or the draft. Yes,

1220
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: at the same time, the second guy they at doesn't

1221
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: need to be plug and play, but he needs to

1222
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: be a guy that's ready to take over for Trent

1223
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 1: Brown in a year. Yeah, I mind the bridge Trent Brown, Right,

1224
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: I don't mind that. I kind of like the idea

1225
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: of getting two plug and play guys in a year

1226
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: where tackles are so readily available, because it might not

1227
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: look like this again next year. Yeah. I like the

1228
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 1: idea of getting two plug and play guys in a

1229
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: year where tackles are so readily available, and then using

1230
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: that ten million dollars he would have spent on Trent

1231
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 1: Brown elsewhere. Yeah, they can cut them. They can have

1232
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 1: a lot of money. What do you think James Bradbury

1233
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: is gonna get on the open market after you? Hell?

1234
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: Do you do some shoester before after we're living in

1235
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,439
Speaker 1: this world like about ten million? Probably right twelve. Yeah,

1236
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 1: I'd rather have James Bradberry than Trent Brown, even if

1237
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 1: it means I have to add another tackle. Yeah. I

1238
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: I'm all for throwing as many resources at tackle as

1239
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: you possibly can, Yes, especially like this year's because you

1240
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: need one, right, like you need one wide receiver. I

1241
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: think at corner you need one corner. You need one

1242
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: six foot three corner. Wherever you find them, it doesn't

1243
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 1: really matter, but you need one guy that can play

1244
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:42,439
Speaker 1: the outside with some size. Right at tackle, you need

1245
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: starters and you need depth, right because your entire right

1246
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: tackle depth chart is a free agent right, Isaiah Wynn,

1247
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 1: Marcus Cannon, uh Yadney McDermott, all of them are free agents.

1248
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: So you need depth. You need you just need numbers,

1249
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: and you also need starting caliber players. But maybe the

1250
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: answer just to throw some names out there, because I

1251
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 1: don't hate Trent Brown as a bridge. If you draft

1252
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 1: more of like a developmental tackle, like a guy like

1253
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 1: Jaylen Duncan from Marylyn. Yeah, he's extremely athletic, has all

1254
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: the tools to play left tackle in the league, but

1255
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 1: super raw like his technique is really needs a lot

1256
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 1: of work. Would it benefit him, I don't know if

1257
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 1: it would benefit him sitting just because of practice rules,

1258
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 1: but that's a whole different can of worms. But would

1259
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 1: it benefit him sitting behind Trent Brown for a year

1260
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: and then taking over in his second season? Maybe? Maybe?

1261
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 1: By the way, mcguilch is still listening, awesome that seven

1262
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: point two five million they save if they cut him,

1263
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: ten point two five if they trade him. So I

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01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: mean either way that's significant money. Yeah, all right, David,

1265
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 1: what's up, David? Hey, guys, that's it going. Hey? Good? Thanks.

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01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 1: So I had my first thing I had on the draft.

1267
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 1: So I know you got to cover all your bases

1268
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 1: when you're preparing for the draft, but I feel like

1269
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 1: I haven't really covered much in the receivers this year

1270
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: at as much as I did last year because I

1271
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 1: just don't see us taking receiver in round one. When

1272
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: Dave Flowers was like a second round pick, I was

1273
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: interested in him, and I still love Zave Flowers, but

1274
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: students he kind of rose into being a first round pick.

1275
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't think. I don't think we're gonna

1276
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 1: get him. So I'm a big fan of taking a

1277
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: tackle in round one, mostly preferable Scronsky if he's there.

1278
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 1: And then for I just wanted to get your thoughts

1279
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: on some receivers. I don't know if he touched on

1280
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 1: this in the beginning of the show, but some potential

1281
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 1: receivers that we could get for rumors I heard. I

1282
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: don't know how true this is, but the Felger Mats

1283
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 1: report about Deevo Samuel and then maybe Keenan Allen shs

1284
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: free agent signing. Yeah, so I'm glad you brought up

1285
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen. David So and your show said that about

1286
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 1: Jimmy Stewart, your show, Jimmy, Jimmy's phone knows. Let me

1287
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 1: let me let me say this about Zay Flowers real quick,

1288
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 1: because he said that thing about I like, say Flowers

1289
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 1: in the second, but not in the first. Zay Flowers

1290
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 1: stock is from here is probably going to drop. Yeah,

1291
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: and that's not a slight at Zay Flowers. But what

1292
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: happens coming out of the Senior Bowl and the Shrine Bowl.

1293
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: So the top tier, like the top top tier players

1294
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 1: don't participate une, Yeah, they have it on right now. Yeah,

1295
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 1: the top top tier of guys don't participate in NEI

1296
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: of those games. Right. So you see guys like Zay Flowers,

1297
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 1: um or even further down like a guy like Da

1298
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 1: Mario Douglas. I showed you the chart of where his

1299
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 1: like consensus stock is it shot up after the Shrine Bowl. Yeah,

1300
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 1: Zay Flowers, he wasn't competing against Jordan Addison. He wasn't

1301
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 1: completing competing against Jackson Smith and Jacobo. It was just him.

1302
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 1: That's why his stock went through the roof, because he

1303
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: was in the spotlight. Once we like, we don't the

1304
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: first real. We use these projections a ton, and it

1305
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 1: is what we have to go buy right now, the

1306
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 1: projections don't like. The first time the projections become real

1307
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 1: is after the combine. Yeah, because Jordan the Addison's going

1308
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 1: to show at the combine and remind everybody why he's

1309
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 1: Jordan Addison. And it's gonna like some people have Zay

1310
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: ahead of him right now. That's not gonna happen once

1311
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 1: the combine happens, right, And this is gonna happen to

1312
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 1: all these other positions too. Everybody's all high in Duan Jones,

1313
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: Well four, the other top five tackles we haven't heard

1314
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 1: from in the last couple of months. I think that

1315
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: I think Zay is an end of the first round pick.

1316
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 1: I think he's an end of the first round. Yeah.

1317
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: People talking about him going in like the top fifteen.

1318
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 1: That's just prisoner of the moment from the shrine. Yeah,

1319
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 1: I think he's end of the first round. Hollywood Brown

1320
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 1: Um Brandon Cooks right like I think Brandon Cooks was

1321
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 1: like twenty four, twenty five, twenty six in his year, Like,

1322
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 1: that's the type of guy that he is. And I

1323
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: think he's right there all right. Aldred laid on me. Aldred, Hey,

1324
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 1: I'm not like those tackles. Most of the drafts, they're

1325
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 1: gonna be gone before they even get the ten most

1326
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 1: of those, most of those tackles. Yeah, I don't disagree

1327
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: with that. But Quinn, I can understand why you think

1328
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 1: the guy is slow because I don't think he's slow.

1329
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 1: He's not slow. He's not slow, and I don't think

1330
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 1: he's slow. We can but also that if he if

1331
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 1: that guy runs four three eight, he's top five pick,

1332
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: we can stop talking about him. Oh he is at

1333
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 1: him going to us. Yeah, he's not He's not slow, No,

1334
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 1: definitely not slow. I just don't think he I don't

1335
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 1: think he gets open at the first and second level

1336
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 1: eldre like on a slant, on an under on a dig,

1337
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 1: like on routes underneath the defense. And I get that

1338
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 1: that's not necessarily what you're asking him to do either,

1339
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 1: but that's what they ask receivers to do here. And

1340
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 1: I don't think that he's got the route running ability

1341
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 1: to thrive here, and I don't know if they necessarily.

1342
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 1: I don't have confidence and them developing him into that

1343
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 1: type of player or using him correctly. So that that's

1344
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 1: sort of where I'm at with Quentin Johnson is it's

1345
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 1: not about Quentin Johnson, It's about the Patriots, Okay, but

1346
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 1: I have seen him run slants and stuff in the end.

1347
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 1: But see, I said the same thing about Debo, not

1348
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 1: to excumeing DK Metcalf, and we picked the dun Harry

1349
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: and Fred did said the same thing. Just so let

1350
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 1: me came in and took out all pro cornerback and

1351
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 1: made him look like he was a battle rena. So Aldred,

1352
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 1: let me ask you this though, because we brought this

1353
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 1: up earlier, because I think DK is a good example.

1354
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 1: Do you think DK Metcalf becomes DK Metcalf if the

1355
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 1: Patriots drafted him, Yeah, with Brady when Brady was still here, Yeah,

1356
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 1: because they've been his breakout receiver and then opened up

1357
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 1: the middle. I think he would have been, but she

1358
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 1: had Josh McDaniels here, so that would have worked. And

1359
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,439
Speaker 1: then why I kept saying and me and b Head

1360
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: we wanted him. And then I'm like, like I told Paul,

1361
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 1: you don't remember he told me at dinner. I told him,

1362
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 1: anybody picked the four Harry and after Harry have a

1363
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 1: better season, heed to and I bet you a dinner.

1364
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: We bet it. But he ain't paid up yet. Well,

1365
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 1: I'll say that. Do you remember who you mentioned the

1366
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 1: coaching staff? Do you remember the wide receiver coach was

1367
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: that year by Brown? It was Joe Judge. It was

1368
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,439
Speaker 1: too who was also the special teams coordinator. It's bad.

1369
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 1: The wide receiver coach of George Joe Judge in the

1370
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 1: nineteen Yeah, that was bad. Bad. He's the running backs

1371
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 1: coach that Yeah. I think he might have been on

1372
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 1: the staff already. But yeah, LJ, I think that's just

1373
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: we We both like Quentin Johnson and the vacuum Mike

1374
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 1: just on his own right. I think we both Troy

1375
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 1: wasn't here. Think he's a great, great talent. We're just

1376
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 1: not convinced that the Patriots would would be the best

1377
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 1: fit for him in terms of scheme and and all

1378
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:42,719
Speaker 1: and you know, development and all that kind of stuff.

1379
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 1: One question, I know this might be a guest with job,

1380
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 1: but I don't ask you one question why they didn't

1381
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 1: bring Sean Jefferies, uh and the Jefferson wide receiver you know,

1382
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 1: with with with Billy O'Brien instead of keeping Troy Brown

1383
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:59,600
Speaker 1: as wide receiver coach after last year, I think he

1384
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 1: failed as a as a coach too. It's it's a

1385
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 1: fair point, and thanks for the call, Elger. We're just

1386
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 1: up against it a little bit Troy Brown. I We

1387
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,759
Speaker 1: got an email about this earlier as well, Alex about

1388
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 1: why has is Troy Brown not in the crosshairs a

1389
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 1: little bit more after the way the wide receivers performed

1390
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 1: last year, we were on this a little bit. Like

1391
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 1: I brought it up a little bit during this in season,

1392
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 1: during the season about how we got to call a

1393
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 1: spade a spade and when the wide receivers are running

1394
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 1: bad routes and have terrible spacing and are not technically sound,

1395
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 1: and some of it has to come on their position coach, right,

1396
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 1: not all of it, but some of it. And so

1397
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:41,639
Speaker 1: I think that that's definitely fair. I think the problem

1398
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:45,600
Speaker 1: with Sean Jefferson or Keenan McCardell, I don't think that

1399
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: they were coming here for lateral moves, right. It would

1400
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 1: have been a lateral move you if you wanted them here,

1401
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 1: that you would have had to make them the offensive coordinator. Yeah, exactly,

1402
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 1: So that that's where they sort of lost out on that.

1403
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 1: Maybe it's Ross Douglas. Maybe he ends up developing into

1404
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 1: a little bit. He's the assistant wide receiver coach right now.

1405
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:05,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm with everybody where. I wish that nothing

1406
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 1: against Troy. I love Troy as a player, and I

1407
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 1: think he's a good guy. But I just think that

1408
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of help there wouldn't kill anybody.

1409
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:17,799
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it is Ross Douglas, or maybe Bill Bryant

1410
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 1: being back and having a respectable NFL caliber scheme will

1411
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 1: change that. There's one other thing that I can't remember

1412
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,719
Speaker 1: which Callar brought it up. Was Keenan Allen I wanted

1413
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 1: to talk about that. I'm not in on Keenan Allen.

1414
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 1: I'm not. I love how Keenan Allen plays football. I

1415
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 1: think he's a great player. I think he was a

1416
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 1: great player. I'm really weary of injuries with him like

1417
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 1: he and it's not like he doesn't have like I

1418
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,639
Speaker 1: don't think like a torn achilles or a torn acl

1419
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 1: on his injury history, but he's got all these nagging

1420
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 1: like hamstring polls, and like he just seems to always

1421
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 1: miss like three or four games a year and then

1422
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 1: a couple more games. He's limited in he plays, but

1423
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,759
Speaker 1: he's limited, right, Like there's always these soft tissue injuries

1424
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 1: and maybe it's just the Chargers training staff, no offense.

1425
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 1: I look, Hunter Henry, we said this about him and

1426
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 1: he came here. I think he's missed one game his

1427
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 1: whole time. If they Yeah, yeah, I I wouldn't mind

1428
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen. He's not at the top of my list. Like,

1429
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 1: they could do a lot worse, but he's been the

1430
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 1: most targeted receiver in the NFL the last two years.

1431
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 1: He was great for Justin Herbert's development. So seeing what

1432
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 1: he does for young quarterback like that part of it

1433
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 1: intrigues me. But yeah, the injuries, the age, Yeah, I again,

1434
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 1: they could do worse. They could do better, but they

1435
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 1: could do worse. All right, Nick and Rhode Island, what's up? Nick? Hey? Guys.

1436
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 1: Horrid guys from this strap are Tank Dell and Cody Mock.

1437
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 1: I know that Tank is Cody short side and everything,

1438
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 1: which is this pointing? Uh? Cody Mock, though, how do

1439
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 1: we get him on this team. Yeah, incredible. Now Nick

1440
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:53,600
Speaker 1: is speaking my lang Heaven wants to take the ye

1441
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: FCS guard. I've watched all his interviews. The guys like

1442
01:11:58,080 --> 01:11:59,680
Speaker 1: an incredible mental I went as far as looking at

1443
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 1: it Gramma like I saw like a back and forth

1444
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 1: with him and his sister. That's how deep I'm going

1445
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 1: with this guy. And they're like talking to each other

1446
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 1: about you know, I'm gonna throw you in a haystack

1447
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:09,600
Speaker 1: and like burry, like messing with each other. Like this

1448
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 1: guy's like corn fed off the eats nails, right, he

1449
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 1: eats nails. Yeah, he's amazing. If you watch this tape,

1450
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 1: be so athletic the way he moves, very smooth. This

1451
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 1: is a great hockey too. So I know we have

1452
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 1: like it's kind of a jigtow puzzle getting tackles and

1453
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 1: line on our team right now with all the needs,

1454
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:26,640
Speaker 1: how do we fit this guy on our team? If

1455
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 1: I'm a coach, I want this mentality on my team.

1456
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 1: What's the way that we can get him on the squad?

1457
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:34,799
Speaker 1: Awesome called Nick, I'm casting called leave. I am sitting

1458
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 1: here with Evan Lazar geeking out about an FBS or

1459
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 1: sorry FCS guard missing teeth with longer. This is the

1460
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 1: guy eats for breakfast. This is the guy hammers and

1461
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 1: then has faded for years, for years. I bring this

1462
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 1: guy up and Evan rolls his eyes at me. We

1463
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 1: did it with Trey Anderson last year. We did it

1464
01:12:56,720 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 1: with all of these guys last year, We did past years.

1465
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 1: This guy's a Hogmali Alex. This guy's nasty. He's nasty,

1466
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 1: all right. He buries people into the ground, he churns

1467
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 1: them out. The problem is is he's a freaking guard.

1468
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 1: If he just had some longer arms, I don't think

1469
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 1: there's he cant chance he can play tackle in the NFL.

1470
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 1: You think there's no chance, I very little, Okay. I

1471
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:24,599
Speaker 1: think he like he could play tackle, like everybody could

1472
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 1: play tackle at this level. Like once we're talking about

1473
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 1: this level where talking about guys that can play NFL football.

1474
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:34,720
Speaker 1: But he's got issues beyond just his length, you know,

1475
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 1: with foot speed and ability to kind of get out

1476
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 1: to the landmarks on an island and redirect and change direction.

1477
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 1: It kills me. I'm doing it. I did wide receivers already,

1478
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,759
Speaker 1: as you know. I'm doing tackles and corners as well.

1479
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 1: Before the combine and I might even put Cody mock

1480
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 1: as like as with an asterisk, yeah, because it just

1481
01:13:55,520 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 1: he is awesome, awesome, offensive lineman. But he's guard. He

1482
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 1: is a guard, and some people actually think that his

1483
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 1: best position might actually end up being center because he's

1484
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 1: gonna be like Jason Kelsey at center, right. But this

1485
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 1: is unreal. I'm sorry. You like that, You're you're you're

1486
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:16,639
Speaker 1: super into the kicker. Yeah, you're super North Dakota State Cars.

1487
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 1: Is what happens when you take me to the Shrine

1488
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 1: bowl and I start to like Cody Mack wasn't even

1489
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 1: at the shrine, I know, but he's that. I watched

1490
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 1: the scene. This is unbelieving. It just puts people in

1491
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 1: the dirt and we laughs at you afterwards. We are

1492
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 1: three years away from me with clipsing me and trying

1493
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 1: to take the Navy fullback in the first round. No,

1494
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 1: you wanted to take the Andre Carter from I never

1495
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 1: said I wanted to go everybody. The guy had a

1496
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 1: tough week, all right, So I love that Cody mak call,

1497
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,679
Speaker 1: let's go rapid fire through the next tiers of wide

1498
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 1: receivers and will wrap here. So number five, I have

1499
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 1: all these guys kind of in that day too, same

1500
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 1: sort of round rage. Josh Downs from North Carolina, who

1501
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 1: I mocked in one point zero, really like his game.

1502
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 1: Your guy, Keishan Boutet from LSU Low too low, he's

1503
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 1: the guy. And uh, actually, I'm gonna say those two guys,

1504
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 1: I think the next guys are kind of in the

1505
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 1: next tears. I think so. But let me just say

1506
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,640
Speaker 1: this about Boutet real quick, go ahead, and you wrote this,

1507
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 1: if they really are sniffing around on Deebo Samuel and

1508
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 1: that's the guy they want. Ka Kashan, Remember no, you're not.

1509
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 1: Remember how I said before. Just because the guy doesn't

1510
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 1: go in the first round doesn't mean he's not a

1511
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 1: first round talent. Kashawn Boutet is a first round talent.

1512
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 1: And frankly, if if the other stuff is, if the

1513
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 1: rumors are correct about what the other stuff is, it's bad.

1514
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 1: It's really not that bad. It's he didn't bring any laws.

1515
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 1: Yes he did. This is this is not a conversation.

1516
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 1: First round talent, first round football talent. I'm in. I

1517
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 1: am so eate on him at forty. He's definitely first

1518
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 1: round football talent. I just looked it up. He's not

1519
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 1: quite as as Dick as as Debo. Well you gotta

1520
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 1: add ten pounds when he gets in the NFL. But

1521
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:06,600
Speaker 1: he but he's six feet two h five and he

1522
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 1: goes what like six foot two fifteen No, yeah, like

1523
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 1: two twenty two fifteen. Yeah, he debos Dick. You know

1524
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 1: that guy's that guy's a staunch built all right. Well,

1525
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:18,719
Speaker 1: but Boote can get there. But Boote's got that. He's

1526
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 1: not like a jitterbug like Za Flowers. He's not overly

1527
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:25,639
Speaker 1: elusive in that sense, but he's elusive in the I'm

1528
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,679
Speaker 1: really fast and really big sense where it's like hard attack.

1529
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 1: He will all like he will sneaky run run over you,

1530
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 1: like run for you. He is. Yeah, and this is

1531
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 1: the same about Debo. He's like kind of a power runner.

1532
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 1: He's exactly like he's like sort of power backs. So

1533
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 1: I Boote at forty six, I love it. I would

1534
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 1: love that pick out of all of like the let's

1535
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 1: just take a big swing on day two. Boote is

1536
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 1: the guy if you're just trying to swing big, give

1537
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 1: me the ceiling, give me the boom. He's give me

1538
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 1: the boom. But if I'm the Patriots, and if I'm

1539
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 1: any other team that's really considering drafting him. You better

1540
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 1: really do your homework. Meeting will be import the meeting

1541
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,639
Speaker 1: will be very important. Yeah, but uh, he definitely has

1542
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,640
Speaker 1: that Debo. I'll call him mini Debo because he's not

1543
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 1: quite as big as Debo, I don't think, but he's

1544
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 1: got that that debo running ability where when he gets

1545
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 1: the football in his hands, he's just like he's a

1546
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 1: running back. Yeah, he's a running back. I'll tell you.

1547
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 1: He's like, I know you don't like the fact that

1548
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 1: how little he played when he's on the field, he's

1549
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 1: a gamer. That dude is tough. He'll go over the middle,

1550
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:26,639
Speaker 1: take a shot, pop right back up and go again.

1551
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 1: You can't intimidate that guy. No, he's I like his game.

1552
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 1: I do. I was just I was arguing just to

1553
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 1: argue with you all about that. All right, So we

1554
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 1: got Boote and Josh Downs yea, and that next year

1555
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 1: Josh Downs from unc Um kind of like a Za

1556
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 1: Flowers light right like so sort of like in that

1557
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 1: Za Flowers conversation. I don't think he's that athletic. I

1558
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 1: think he's like his seal is like a better version

1559
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 1: of Jacoby Myers. Yeah, he's he's a little I think

1560
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 1: what I like about him is he's five ten and

1561
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 1: that low center of gravity. He really plays into that

1562
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 1: where he can get low and really sink in and

1563
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 1: out of a cut and really change directions on people.

1564
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:01,680
Speaker 1: I also think like he's just super consistent. Yeah, the

1565
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:03,640
Speaker 1: guy doesn't have I don't want when I say he

1566
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:05,599
Speaker 1: doesn't have good games. He doesn't have bad games. It's

1567
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 1: not to say he doesn't produce, but he's gonna like

1568
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 1: his stat line. His production is so consistent. You know

1569
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 1: what you're getting from him playing and play out, and

1570
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 1: that's so underrated. The last thing I mentioned about Boote, Well,

1571
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 1: worries me about Boote is not that they're gonna miss

1572
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 1: on the talent. What worries me is that he's gonna

1573
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:24,719
Speaker 1: be awesome for like two games, then we're never gonna

1574
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 1: hear from him again because he gets hurt or something

1575
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 1: like that. Right, Like, I'll take the risk. I just

1576
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 1: I don't want to rest. It's gonna break my heart

1577
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 1: happen all right, Here comes like the last tier here,

1578
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 1: I guess we can call it h Tank Dell. Yeah,

1579
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 1: Nathaniel Dell from Houston would be a first round pick.

1580
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 1: If not for his size, he's Marcus Jones, but he's

1581
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 1: a receiver. Yeah, five eight hundred sixty absolutely tiny, like

1582
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 1: literally absolutely time. But let me ask his pound for pound,

1583
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 1: is there a more explosive player in the draft. He's

1584
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 1: up there, and he took over on returns for Marcus Jones,

1585
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 1: and Marcus Jones came to the NFL for the patch.

1586
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:00,679
Speaker 1: He's literally Marcus Jones, but just in stead of a corner,

1587
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 1: he's a receiver, right, That's who he is. Uh. I

1588
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 1: really liked this player. I wish he was better at

1589
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl from what I saw the Senior Bowl.

1590
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 1: Xavier Hutchinson from Iowa State. He uh, some people got

1591
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 1: him all wrong. We talked about this, We were texting

1592
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 1: about this, and some people think that he's like a

1593
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 1: big body outside you know X receiver when his jump balls.

1594
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 1: Now this is a big slot. Yeah, he's Jacoby Myers. Uh,

1595
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd. He's that. Yeah, Which that's not to say

1596
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 1: that he can't. What what he wins contested is like

1597
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:34,640
Speaker 1: over the middle contested right where he's in traffic and

1598
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 1: he's got to catch the football and hang tough with it.

1599
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 1: He has that Jacoby, like that sudden change of direction

1600
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 1: where he's not very fast in a straight line, but

1601
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 1: he's just got that little you know shake in his game.

1602
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:49,600
Speaker 1: They were when he cuts, you can like kind of

1603
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 1: see it pop, right, you know he gets in and

1604
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 1: out of that break. I would like, I said, I

1605
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 1: wish he was a little bit more. Uh alost she

1606
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 1: was better in the film I saw from Mobile, But

1607
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 1: I think one on ones maybe not where he's gonna

1608
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 1: thrive because he doesn't have that pure athleticism like guys

1609
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 1: like Tank Dell or the kid from Michigan State. Read yeah,

1610
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:11,720
Speaker 1: like those guys are gonna pop because they're just fast, right,

1611
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 1: But he's not really like that. Another guy that I

1612
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 1: think is a little bit I've forgotten at times in

1613
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 1: this class is Marvin Mims from Oklahoma. He's really fast.

1614
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 1: That's definitely like bottom line right, really really explosive, really

1615
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 1: fast receiver. He's somebody that fits that speed slot role.

1616
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 1: If that's sort of way go on. I'll say this

1617
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 1: about Marvin Mims. There is not a player in this

1618
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:40,599
Speaker 1: class that is better at making spectacular catches than Marvin Mims.

1619
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 1: And way that however you want go and one catch

1620
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 1: does not to find evaluation probably will urge people this.

1621
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 1: Look up the catch Marvis and Aaron Dobson situation. Look

1622
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:53,720
Speaker 1: up No, because he's done Lauren McKiel harry against sc

1623
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 1: Look up the catch Marvin Mims made in the twenty

1624
01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:01,640
Speaker 1: twenty one Red River game that be the It's a

1625
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 1: top three greatest football catch I've ever seen. It is unbelievable.

1626
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 1: And then he also made the catch of the Year

1627
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:10,639
Speaker 1: last year against Texas Tech. Yeah, so he was somebody.

1628
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 1: Let me let me say, body control, elite, elite, elite,

1629
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:16,679
Speaker 1: body contain speed. What was the what's the wide Receiver

1630
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 1: Award in college football? Against? Yeah, Blatan Coff. He was

1631
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 1: a finalist for the Blatan cough and went to the

1632
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:24,599
Speaker 1: guy that I want to touch on really really quickly. Yeah,

1633
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 1: you're at the end. That's not even on this list

1634
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 1: or an honorable mention for a reason. Number ten Cedric

1635
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:32,799
Speaker 1: Tillman from Tennessee. I wanted to include another big body

1636
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 1: X receiver on this list. Yeah, you have him too high.

1637
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 1: I liked Tillman a lot. What I really liked about

1638
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 1: him was, if you're gonna be that player, if you're

1639
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 1: gonna be an ex receiver, outside boundary receiver. You gotta

1640
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 1: be able to stop. And I know that that sounds

1641
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 1: so silly when I say that, but what I mean

1642
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:52,879
Speaker 1: by the changing directions is it's not just change of direction.

1643
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 1: It's like when you get vertical, right, if you can

1644
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 1: stop it down on a dime, that's really really helpful

1645
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 1: because then you setpary on back shoulders, come back, stop

1646
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 1: right right. So you need to be able to get

1647
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 1: that corner to drive by right where you're running the

1648
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 1: corners running, you stop on that dime and he keeps

1649
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 1: going and you're and you're down and open right right.

1650
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 1: I think that a guy that you know really could

1651
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 1: have benefited from that is somebody like Nikil Harry. If

1652
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 1: he had that ability, then I think he would have

1653
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:24,719
Speaker 1: been a much better NFL prospect. I think Cedric Tillman

1654
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 1: has that ability. Uh you know, you watch him against

1655
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:30,559
Speaker 1: Kiely Ringo from Georgia who has some change of direction

1656
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 1: to hip siffness issues, and he just ate him up

1657
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 1: underneath the defense. Right, he would just get vertical, get

1658
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 1: on that vertical stem, stop it down, and Keiley Ringo

1659
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 1: would be like but bye, right, Like does watch him

1660
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 1: run by you? That's a guy that I can get

1661
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 1: behind there, Cedric Tillman, like his h you know, his

1662
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:53,799
Speaker 1: skill set for that big body, bigger body X receiver

1663
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:55,520
Speaker 1: where I think he has a little bit of fluidity

1664
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:58,680
Speaker 1: and stop start ability. The guy that I did not

1665
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 1: H do have a big take on Cedra Tillman or

1666
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 1: you know, I want to ask you about who your

1667
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 1: honorable mentions, right, Okay, but you're gonna talk about Jalen High.

1668
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 1: I need to talk about Jalen Hyatt. Yeah, he's not

1669
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 1: on the list. You hate Jalen High. I do hate

1670
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:11,840
Speaker 1: Jalen Read. I'll admit it. Like I don't hate literally

1671
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 1: making catches behind us. I don't mean him as a person,

1672
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 1: all right, I hate him as a prospect. Okay, Because

1673
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 1: this is a problem that people need to get their

1674
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 1: head around when it comes to evaluating these receivers, and

1675
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 1: that is that college football is fugazi, all right, It's

1676
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:33,840
Speaker 1: not real. Okay. A lot of the things that they

1677
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 1: do a college football with the way that they use receivers,

1678
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 1: especially in that Tennessee offense, is not translatable to the NFL.

1679
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:44,760
Speaker 1: So what they used to do with with Hyatt is

1680
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 1: they put him in a stack. Right, So we have

1681
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 1: a receiver in front of him, and then he'd be

1682
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 1: behind him, and they'd be all the way out wide,

1683
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 1: like outside the numbers out wide, and then the guy

1684
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 1: would literally just run like a pick for him so

1685
01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 1: that he could get off the line of scrimmage. Okay,

1686
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 1: so the guy would just block for him essentially, and

1687
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 1: then Hyatt would just run behind him and get open.

1688
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 1: And he as soon as Hyatt gets to that top gear,

1689
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 1: he can run through any defense. I'll give him that.

1690
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 1: He's the fastest dude to live in a straight line.

1691
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 1: But at the NFL level, in order to be like

1692
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 1: a true thousand yard big time production receiver, you need

1693
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:23,840
Speaker 1: to be able to beat press coverage. And I have

1694
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:26,719
Speaker 1: no evidence whatsoever from his film, because all they did

1695
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:30,559
Speaker 1: at Tennessee was scheme him away from press coverage where

1696
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 1: there is motion alignment whatever. So I don't know if

1697
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:35,720
Speaker 1: he can beat press coverage because he never did it.

1698
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:37,879
Speaker 1: I don't know if he can run another route besides

1699
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 1: a vertical. All he ran was verticals, and that works

1700
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 1: at the college level. But when you get up here,

1701
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 1: as Taekwon Thornton like, as soon once you get up

1702
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 1: to the NFL, everybody is just as fast as you are,

1703
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:50,759
Speaker 1: you were no longer just the fastest kid on the playground.

1704
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 1: That doesn't apply unless you're Tyreek Hill, all right. So

1705
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 1: that's the problem that I have with Jalen Hyatt. They're

1706
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 1: just guys did their whole life of one by being fast,

1707
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 1: so they don't necessarily develop the rest of this gil set.

1708
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 1: I think with high and a lot of people look

1709
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 1: at the game he had against alabaim and there's say

1710
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 1: five touchdowns against Alabama, there must be something there as

1711
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 1: impressive as that was, and it truly was impressive. You

1712
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 1: can't build an entire draft report off of one game.

1713
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 1: You just can't do it. You have to look at

1714
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 1: the full body of work. All right. I want to

1715
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 1: ask you about two of your honorable mentions. Rick Kim

1716
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 1: Jarrett for Maryland is a guy I actually really think

1717
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 1: he almost was ten on this list. He should have been. Um, sorry, no,

1718
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 1: it's fine, I'm trying to pull something up real quick.

1719
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 1: Rick Kim Jarrett is a guy I think the Patriots

1720
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 1: would like in a big part of that reason is

1721
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 1: they like historically like guys and J. C. Jackson fits

1722
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 1: into this. Who are the other examples? And I'm blanking.

1723
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 1: But there's a bunch guys who are high ranked or

1724
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:55,759
Speaker 1: kurds coming out of high school who maybe Diron Cowart

1725
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 1: Byron Cowart, who maybe didn't click in college, especially at

1726
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 1: smaller programs. To see what's untapped, I want to pull

1727
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 1: up the recruit rankings from that year. But Rick Kim

1728
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 1: Jarrett in the slot, one of these guys that can

1729
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:10,679
Speaker 1: create after the catch in the third or fourth round

1730
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 1: just checks a ton of boxes for them. Yeah, he's

1731
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 1: a little you know, you mentioned like guys like Harman

1732
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 1: and Kadarius Tony. Yeah, I think he's guys that that

1733
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:20,680
Speaker 1: type of speed. I don't know if he's got that

1734
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 1: type of you know, ball carrying skill necessarily like Tony does,

1735
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 1: but he's got that kind of speech. So here we go.

1736
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 1: Hang on the twenty four seven who does the big

1737
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 1: recruiting list? Yeah, this is the twenty twenty class wide

1738
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 1: receiver rankings. Yeah, Julian Fleming still in the school, he's

1739
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:37,600
Speaker 1: at Ohio State. Kashawn Boutet, I'm just gonna skip the

1740
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 1: guys are still in school, so Kishan Boutet. Then Rick

1741
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:43,759
Speaker 1: Kim Jarrett, who was originally committed to Lsee switched to Maryland,

1742
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 1: then Jackson Smith and Jigba and then you gotta go

1743
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 1: way down to get and then Quentin Johnson's down at fourteen.

1744
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 1: Josh downs Is, it's seventeen. Patriots are out well, not

1745
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 1: a good enough high school problems Marvin Mims at twenty nine.

1746
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 1: But here's my point. Jalen Hyatts thirty three, Like, yeah,

1747
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:04,879
Speaker 1: in terms of the high school rank which don't dictate everything.

1748
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 1: Of course you're not drafting out the high school rankings,

1749
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 1: but it is something I think the Patriots like to

1750
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:12,639
Speaker 1: look at. For Kim Jarrett's only behind Kishawn Boutet from

1751
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 1: that class. Yeah. I like Kim Jarrett. I liked what

1752
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 1: I saw out of him. It was one of the

1753
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 1: last guys that I watched, and I was if I

1754
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 1: didn't want to pigeonhole another X outside receiver like Cedric

1755
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 1: Tillman into this list, he probably would have made the list.

1756
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 1: The other guy that I would just mentioned really quickly, um,

1757
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:33,719
Speaker 1: is uh your guy, Charlie Jones. Okay, I can't believe

1758
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 1: you didn't mention it. Well. I said, I wanted to

1759
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:37,719
Speaker 1: ask you about two of your honorable metric you finally

1760
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 1: watched Charlie Jones, I think begging you to watch Charlie

1761
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:42,720
Speaker 1: John and I didn't. I didn't do a full thing

1762
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 1: on him, but I did enough to put him on

1763
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 1: the list. Jacobe Myers, Yeah, yeah, straight up, like straight up.

1764
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 1: So I will say this really quickly though, And we've

1765
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 1: compared half these receivers to Jacobs. It's that kind It's

1766
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:56,720
Speaker 1: not Cooper Cup. He's not Cooper now, okay not And

1767
01:27:56,760 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 1: I don't think he's even Hunter Renfro. Uh. He's closer

1768
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 1: to Renfro than Cup, right, But I don't want to

1769
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 1: get in this out there that like this guy is

1770
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:06,559
Speaker 1: like the next Cooper Cup. That's that's not the case.

1771
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 1: But he was ultra, ultra productive. He's gonna go seven yards,

1772
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 1: he's gonna find the hole in the coverage, he's gonna

1773
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:14,640
Speaker 1: catch the ball and get tackled. And he's gonna do

1774
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:16,640
Speaker 1: that seventeen times a game. But that's what he does.

1775
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:19,439
Speaker 1: And I'm not this is I think still kind of

1776
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 1: we're still in that ceiling territory. But I always like

1777
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:24,640
Speaker 1: look at guys like that, like Danny Amndola right like

1778
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 1: now I am, and Dola is much faster than he is.

1779
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 1: And Charlie Jones is much bigger. Okay, so you think

1780
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 1: he's better than or different than Amudola, Very different than Amndola, Okay,

1781
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:34,800
Speaker 1: Jaco like to me he We've compared a lot of

1782
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:37,799
Speaker 1: players to Jacoby Myers in this but no, said, Hutchinson

1783
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 1: literally is Jacoby Myers. I don't see a huge difference

1784
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 1: between Xavier Hudsonson and Charlie Jones, except Xavier Hutchinson's a

1785
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 1: little bit bigger. Yeah, and that's why I like him.

1786
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 1: I like the catch radius. All right, so there's a

1787
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 1: wide receivers. We're gonna be back next week on Thursday

1788
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 1: to do Combine preview because I'll be headed out to

1789
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 1: India on Tuesday or the following week. So we'll do

1790
01:28:56,840 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 1: a full COMPRIMEE preview on Thursday and the show next week.

1791
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 1: We'll talk arm lengths, we'll talk forty R dashes, what

1792
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 1: else we'll talk you know, hand sizes, right, yeah, yeah,

1793
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 1: we'll get into it. It'll be fun. So we'll see

1794
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 1: you guys then, And thanks so much for listening. Thank

1795
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:19,639
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1796
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:22,760
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01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:29,120
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