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Speaker 1: Trent Balky and Doug Peterson. Let's start with Trent. Pretty

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Speaker 1: polarizing individual. Right, I live in the Bay Area, forty

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Speaker 1: league has. And I'm paid to talk about the league.

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Speaker 1: I want the league to thrive. And I've said it before.

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Speaker 1: The NFL is not gonna be on top forever. Right now,

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Speaker 1: they're humming, and in my last ten years in matt

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Speaker 1: last twenty. But one day, kids, I'll promise you this,

429
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Speaker 1: and anyone listening with young kids, they watch people play

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Speaker 1: video games. Right now, the video game industry in my

431
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Speaker 1: lifetime is going to be massive. If you tell me

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Speaker 1: the video game industry at one point in time is

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Speaker 1: more people watching than live sports. It might be two

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Speaker 1: thousand fifty, but it's coming. I do believe that the

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Speaker 1: Jets should be quote unquote overpay, and I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's crazy for them to overpay. They're in a division

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Speaker 1: that's loaded. Belichick is the greatest coach of all time,

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Speaker 1: and as a playoff team, the Bills are a powerhouse.

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Speaker 1: The Miami Dolphins, while they have some unknowns, have do

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Speaker 1: have a lot of good players and have been winning lately.

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Speaker 1: The Jets are clearly the fourth team in that division.

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00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: Their quarterback needs a lot of help. Well, who is

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Speaker 1: a guy that can immediately help a quarterback, a guy

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Speaker 1: that you can hand the ball off or throw to

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Speaker 1: whom behind the line of scrimmage in Deebo Samuel. Now,

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Speaker 1: it does not behoove the Niners to give them for

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Speaker 1: pick ten. I've said it over and over. Pick ten

448
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Speaker 1: in a bad draft, isn't that valuable? And I'd argue

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Speaker 1: pick thirty eight, like, yeah, I'm giving you Deebo Samuel

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Speaker 1: will pick ten and thirty eight in theory that has

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Speaker 1: good value. But I no longer have Diebo Samuel, and

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Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel literally just carried me to the playoffs. So

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Speaker 1: if you want Deebo Samuel, who is on my team

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Speaker 1: and I do not need to trade, you have to

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Speaker 1: pay almost, you know, a buck seventy five on the dollar.

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Speaker 1: I would demand pick ten, one of the second round picks,

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Speaker 1: and honestly, this is the first round pick next year,

458
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Speaker 1: and most people would say, no chance you do that.

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Speaker 1: Then you don't get Deebo Samuel. But the Jets are

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Speaker 1: in desperate need of life. This is a bad draft

461
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Speaker 1: whoever they pick, especially if it's an offensive lineman or

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Speaker 1: defensive lineman. No one's paying for tickets to go see

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Speaker 1: that guy play. Now, if the Jets do draft with

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Speaker 1: the tenth pick, Garrett Wilson or whatever, and he turns

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Speaker 1: into Justin Jefferson, for sure, but it's risky. It's It's

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Speaker 1: why I would probably not trade Deebo Samuel under any

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Speaker 1: circumstances on the Niners, even if I got picked ten

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Speaker 1: pick thirty eight and next year's one, because more than

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Speaker 1: likely at pick ten, I'm taking a lava or Garrett Wilson,

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Speaker 1: and I just think, and we've talked about this before,

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Speaker 1: there are no sure things in the NFL. There There

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Speaker 1: is no such thing as a high floor. Because every

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Speaker 1: we we've always said, Hi, this guy's a high floor.

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Speaker 1: This guy's a high floor. And half those guys don't

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Speaker 1: even make teams that they get cut, they get washed

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Speaker 1: out of the league. So just and especially at wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: I think we've we've become accustomed to think. It's just

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Speaker 1: it's so easy now to find a wide receiver plug

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Speaker 1: and play, and that guy who becomes a star Jalen

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Speaker 1: reagor still happen like, not every guy's Justin Jefferson, not

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Speaker 1: every guy's Jamaar Chase. So you gotta be very very careful. Uh.

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Speaker 1: But if I was the Jets, I I I would

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Speaker 1: get overly aggressive. I don't think it's crazy given the

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Speaker 1: situation there in and how desperate they're just for some

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Speaker 1: juice for some people to care about them. Um, So

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't totally shock me if they come with an

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Speaker 1: aggressive offer, And hell, the Niners might even if they

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Speaker 1: came with a crazy offer, still might say no. This draft.

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Speaker 1: I've been thinking a lot about and I talked to

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Speaker 1: a guy in the NFL a while back who said,

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Speaker 1: you know, and I remember this when I'd go to

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Speaker 1: pro days, some of these older scouts would get mad,

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Speaker 1: like when a guy would decline to run, and I

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Speaker 1: didn't know any better, I was like, yeah, you should

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Speaker 1: be running. And then now that I've seen kind of

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Speaker 1: can take a big picture view of it all. If

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Speaker 1: I had a client who was slow, we would never

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Speaker 1: run because the moment you run and you run slow,

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Speaker 1: it hurts your draft stock. Because I've say it over note,

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Speaker 1: this is an economic exercise, and your draft your forty time,

501
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Speaker 1: while probably a little overrated in the grand scheme of things,

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Speaker 1: is a determining factor of where you're gonna go on

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Speaker 1: the draft, because if you play safety or you play

504
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Speaker 1: wide receiver, and your card is up there on the board,

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Speaker 1: a lot of boards of digital now and it says

506
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Speaker 1: four six oh, it's hard for me to pull the

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Speaker 1: trigger as a GM, as the head coach, as the

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Speaker 1: owner with that time not great. It's much easier to draft.

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Speaker 1: And it's not saying it's right to draft a guy

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Speaker 1: that ran a four four one. It's it's very easy

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Speaker 1: to draft Chris Lave. It's very easy to draft these

512
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Speaker 1: wide receivers and these corners that fly. Kyle Hamilton's the

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Speaker 1: safety from Notre Dame who actually has a podcast with

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Speaker 1: the Notre Dame guys ran really slow and for a

515
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Speaker 1: long period of time he was going to be which

516
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Speaker 1: and I agree because I watched him play with Notre

517
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Speaker 1: Dame and I thought, this guy is a star, this

518
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Speaker 1: guy is a baller. He is gonna be a top

519
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Speaker 1: five pick. Then he goes to the combine and runs

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Speaker 1: up whatever four five oh or four five five and

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Speaker 1: then runs his Pro day, and maybe it was like

522
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Speaker 1: a four or five eight runs at his Pro day

523
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Speaker 1: even slower, So now people around the league think he's slow,

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Speaker 1: and now you hear these mock drafts and people talking

525
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Speaker 1: about like he might go in the mid teens. Before

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Speaker 1: he ran, just based on his film, he was viewed

527
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Speaker 1: as a top five pick, and when I watched him,

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Speaker 1: I thought, this guy's top five pick. This guy's gonna

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Speaker 1: play in the league. And then he runs slow, and

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Speaker 1: now he's talked about going in the teens. I was

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Speaker 1: listening to Michael Lombardi's podcast and he was he was

532
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Speaker 1: talking to someone with a team that's picking in the

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Speaker 1: late teens that goes Hamilton might fall to us. Drake London,

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Speaker 1: who got hurt during the season, Uh, broke his ankle,

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Speaker 1: so you know, slow to rehab, but he's healthy now,

536
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: refused to run. Why he's not fast. Most people in

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Speaker 1: the league think he's like he'd run four six, but

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Speaker 1: he didn't run, so there's no time next to his name,

539
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Speaker 1: and he's being talked about potentially going in the top ten. Well,

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Speaker 1: if Drake London had ran either at the Combine or

541
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Speaker 1: at his Pro day and put up a four six four,

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Speaker 1: there's zero chance on God's green Earth, he's going in

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Speaker 1: the top fifteen. Now, maybe when the dusk settles he

544
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Speaker 1: ends up not going in top fifteen, But if he

545
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: had that time on his card, no chance. Kyle Hamilton's

546
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: is gonna lose money. He did lose money for running slow.

547
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Speaker 1: So if my client is not going to be fast,

548
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Speaker 1: we ain't running. And on the flip side, I've said

549
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: it all the time, Lamar Jackson costs himself millions of

550
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: dollars because he didn't run the combine period point blank,

551
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: end of story. If Lamar Jackson, we've seen a guy

552
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Speaker 1: play for four years, he's fast as a mother. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I would guess four three one he'd run, he'd be

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Speaker 1: he'd probably run the fastest quarterback time in the history

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Speaker 1: of the combine. Maybe r G three ran the high

556
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: four threes, low four fours. I I think he would

557
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Speaker 1: be the fastest quarterback in the history of the combine.

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Speaker 1: Who was Maybe there have been like guys that transitioned

559
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: other positions, but probably not. I mean, he just would

560
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: never have gone thirty two. But he refused to run

561
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: because people thought he was a wide receiver. Well, some

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00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: of these guys run and then they hurt themselves. And

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Speaker 1: I think Hamilton is a good example of a guy

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Speaker 1: that just trying to do the right thing because he's

565
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Speaker 1: a competitor, and then it hurts him. Drake London refuses

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Speaker 1: and now it's like, well and I listen. I've heard

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Speaker 1: people that are pretty torn on him. Some people think

568
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Speaker 1: he's gonna be a really good player. I know when

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Speaker 1: I watched him at USC, I thought he was a stud.

570
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Speaker 1: But I've talked to other people and think he's sluggish.

571
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: I think he's not fast enough. And sometimes you know,

572
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: the contested catch guys, it's harder for them to transition

573
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Speaker 1: in the league. Speed always translates, right chrysal Lava is

574
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: gonna get open immediately, Like even Henry Ruggs, who is

575
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: going to be in jail by the second year, is

576
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: clear like he could get open with East and he

577
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: wasn't even a great route runner. Lava is when you

578
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: can go that fast, like, it's just harder. The corner

579
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Speaker 1: is reacting to you, he's backpedaling, you're running forward. Well,

580
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: even the backpedaling. Most of these corners are now four

581
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Speaker 1: four guys. If you're a four six five guy, you

582
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: have to have some special traits. Now that the positive

583
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Speaker 1: on Drake London is he's very physical. He's a tough

584
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Speaker 1: m effort. I mean contest to catch guys, But I

585
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: would say the contested catch guys make people in the

586
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Speaker 1: league a little nervous. The Giants right now, there's some

587
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Speaker 1: rumors about them getting rid of their former first round

588
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: pick Kadarius Tony last year, who was a guy that

589
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: had red flags coming out. Here's what I know. When

590
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Speaker 1: you hire a new general manager and you hire a

591
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Speaker 1: new head coach, and we we see, you know, five

592
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Speaker 1: to seven of them every single year, every guy on

593
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: that roster, unless it's like an Aaron Rodgers, is basically

594
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Speaker 1: immediately available because there is a chance that that coach

595
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: or that general manager did not like that player coming out,

596
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: doesn't think that guy fits the scheme. And then there's

597
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: the character's stuff of questionable character guys. Depending on what

598
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: team that guy comes from, that guy was off the board.

599
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: So it could just be as simple as it's easy

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Speaker 1: to be, like everyone starts fresh. That's always something like

601
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: coaches love to say, or like people that take over

602
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: companies love to say, like everyone starts fresh. I don't

603
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: want to know what I just what however, we start

604
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: from ground zero, will go from here. We'll just by

605
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: open door policy, come meet me, and we'll just develop

606
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: a relationship from scratch. That's not the way it works

607
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: in the NFL, because when I take over as a

608
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: GM Joe Shane, who's coming from the Bills and day Ball.

609
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: They evaluated this guy last year. They would know a

610
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: lot about him. They would have an opinion. So it's

611
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: easy to say that. But when you come into a job,

612
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: and it's gonna happen in all these franchises, you're gonna

613
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: have an opinion on that player. It's always where it

614
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: gets a little weird when the general manager stays and

615
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: he hires a new coach and then that coach doesn't

616
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Speaker 1: like one of the guys that that general manager drafted,

617
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Speaker 1: And then it can create a little animosity because obviously

618
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: that general manager thinks that that player is good, but

619
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: that coach may not like that guy from his previous stop,

620
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,479
Speaker 1: or that that his former organization didn't. So it can

621
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: become very complicated and convoluted quickly. But I can understand

622
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: where the Giants this rumor of them getting rid of

623
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: the guy, Like what if both those guys hated him

624
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: coming out. Now I saw today on Elon's app Twitter

625
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: that Tony has been at the facility because I guess

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00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: he didn't show up last week. He's been there this

627
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: weekend and today. Maybe he's trying to do his part. Uh,

628
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: because if if I was him, I'd want to be

629
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Speaker 1: with Dave All, who's clearly a really good coach, and

630
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: try to excel because it's never good being a top

631
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: twenty pick and immediately getting traded going into your second year. Uh.

632
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Speaker 1: This story I think came out on Friday, and I

633
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: didn't pay it too much attention. That the NFL is

634
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: gonna take over Christmas, which I didn't look at the date.

635
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: I guess on the calendar. So what I saw it

636
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Speaker 1: him like Roger Goodell is coming Adam Silver's throat and

637
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: obviously the last couple of years, definitely last year, the

638
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: the NFL had games on Christmas. Right, they had the

639
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: Raider Colts game and it was Arizona played someone I forget,

640
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: but I was got a little drunk on Christmas. But

641
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: I remember sitting at my brother's house watching the Christmas game. Well,

642
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: I look today, Christmas falls on a Sunday, so it's

643
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: not that crazy now reading about it. Historically, when the

644
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: NFL uh Christmas has fallen on a Sunday, they have

645
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: put a bunch of games on Christmas Eve, and they

646
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: plan on doing that the differences. Instead of just putting

647
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: one or even two games on Christmas, They're going triple header.

648
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: They're going at ten am gig off, a one thirty kickoff,

649
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: and a night game kickoff. And the NFL knows this

650
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: that right now, the real estate for our attention has

651
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: never been more crowded. It's very, very difficult to hold

652
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: my attention. Like I talked about yesterday, the Netflix thing,

653
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: I I truly believe Netflix quality of their shows is really,

654
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: really shitty. I have never, probably the last three or

655
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: four months, clicked on the Netflix app less. And it's

656
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 1: not because like I'll watch whatever, but whenever I go,

657
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: I can't find anything to watch that's any good. I'm

658
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: much more likely to go to Hulu, go to HBO

659
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: Max because I feel their content is better. Well, one

660
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: thing is clear. When the NFL is on television, their

661
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: content supersedes every other live sporting event and basically everything

662
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: besides like presidential elections. You put the NFL on TV

663
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: millions upon millions upon millions of people are gonna watch.

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Speaker 1: It's why I've been talking about Amazon Prime. If you're

665
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: one of these archaic individuals, is like, why where do

666
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: I find Amazon Prime? Well, it's like you're gonna figure

667
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: it out if you want to watch the NFL game,

668
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: because I would imagine a lot of people that aren't

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Speaker 1: subscribe to Amazon Prime don't necessarily know who any of

670
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: these human beings are, because I don't know one in

671
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: my life will subscribe if they're interested in the NFL. Well,

672
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: the NFL, the this is just I think they're gonna

673
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: own Christmas forever. And that was always the NBA's day.

674
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 1: They would have like five games on Christmas. I saw

675
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: it firsthand because the Gold State Warriors, when they became

676
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: a powerhouse, they got the prime time game on Christmas.

677
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: You never wanted to miss it. It It was always Warriors

678
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: first Lebron. It was like it was a must watch. Well,

679
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: the NBA's in major trouble on Christmas Day? Who the

680
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: hell's watching now? With NFL games on? And I would

681
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,919
Speaker 1: imagine that the league. I mean think about last year,

682
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: like Raiders Colts pretty good and that was a playoff game,

683
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: Cardinals were a playoff team. They will not just put

684
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: like Jack's Texans on Christmas. I wouldn't shock me if

685
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: it's like Steelers, Ravens, Niners, rams like, they'll probably go

686
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: some big boy matchups to get some big boy ratings

687
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: and kind of take a stranglehold. Because I would argue

688
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: in anything, in any line, in any industry, when you

689
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: see an opening, you have to take it. You know,

690
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: you have to be aggressive when times are good and

691
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: be even more aggressive when times are bad. But the

692
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: NFL right now is full pedal full, I mean just

693
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: full steam ahead. And even in their press release reading

694
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: about it today, they called, you know, we're not trying

695
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 1: to infringe on our friends at the NBA. I thank yeah,

696
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: you are. You're trying to wipe him out. You're trying

697
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: to take out their number one regular season day and

698
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna succeed with ease. So it's just the NFL

699
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 1: is just they're in the peak of their powers right now.

700
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: You know, if they were a player, they'd be in

701
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: their prime. It won't last forever, but it's they have

702
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: a long runway ahead. Okay, Middlecoff mail back time at

703
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: John Middlecoff is uh is my Instagram slide up into

704
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: those d m s. Like I've said, I Uh, I'm

705
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 1: way behind and maybe might be a project for after

706
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: the draft, But I gotta I gotta reply to a

707
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: lot of d ms. So if I haven't responded to

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00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: your d m uh in a long time, I'm coming.

709
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: I promise I I will. Gary V always preached manually

710
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: respond to everybody. I always have hang my hat on that.

711
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: So let's start with uh with Sydney. This guy in

712
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: the NFL, Sydney Dawkins. Yeah, it looks like he's a

713
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,479
Speaker 1: college player. Maybe. I'm a big fan of your pot.

714
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: I listen to it every day. I appreciate that, Bro.

715
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: I'm interested in your take on the Niners. Do you

716
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: think they have buyer's remorse from moving up to get Lance?

717
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: It feels like they have cold feet going into the

718
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 1: season and are stuck in a love triangle with Lance

719
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: and Jimmy G. I like the love triangle reference there.

720
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: It's funny the I hear so many famous people that

721
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: are involved in like open marriages and swinging. It's like,

722
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: I just I have just yet to date any girl

723
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: that would even be remotely close to open to these things.

724
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: But I guess these rich people getting these open marriages

725
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 1: and these these love triangles, but also have to throw

726
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: Lance to the wolves because of how much they spent.

727
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: Now there's drama with Deebo. What's your opinion on the

728
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: current forty Niners heading into the season. I just think

729
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: Trey Lance is a major, major project, talking major project,

730
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 1: and the forty Niners, like Josh Allen was a major project,

731
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: but they weren't trying to make the playoffs to meetia

732
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 1: with Josh Allen, even though I think they did relatively quickly.

733
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: Like the forty Niners are trying to win ten eleven,

734
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: twelve games, trying to win the division. So last year

735
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 1: I think Kyle got cold feet definitely with Tray Lance,

736
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: because there was a moment I went to practice and

737
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: I was like, Trey Lance the starter. But it's practiced

738
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: a lot easier in the games than if he clearly

739
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: got a little overwhelmed and he couldn't beat Jimmy out.

740
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: I would say a year into it, he should improve

741
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: and have understanding of the knowledge of the offense. Like

742
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: any young person anyone listening to this who was like

743
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: over thirty the first time you get a job like

744
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: a real job, especially if the job is intense, it's

745
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: pretty overwhelming. Remember the first time, my first week, couple

746
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: of weeks at Frizen State, my first up weeks with

747
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: the Eagles, it was intense. But then a year end,

748
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 1: you're comfortable. I mean not like comfortable where you're content,

749
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: but like you just know what to expect. And I

750
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: do believe in a lot of people in the NFL

751
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: have always believed the biggest jump of player takes is

752
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: from year one to two. So I I think that

753
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: the expectations of Trey Lance, He's gonna be a starter

754
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: this year. I don't think they're necessarily struck stuck in

755
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: a love triangle. I just think they're stuck. They couldn't

756
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: trade Jimmy Garoppolo. They don't have a backup quarterback, so

757
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: they'd be okay in theory, which is keeping them. They

758
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: also benefit from Jimmy's hurt, so it's not like Jimmy's

759
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: gonna be throwing at O T A s. Jimmy is

760
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: just gonna be You're not eve gonna be there, So

761
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: they're not really in a huge rush to figure it out.

762
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: I think they're hoping ultimately Carolina Caves and they can

763
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: trade them there. I've been listening to you since way

764
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: back when you had hair. That's probably a lie because

765
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: I haven't had hair since my first year in the NFL.

766
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 1: So if you've been listening to me, I've been bold.

767
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: What if an end of every NFL season, the winner

768
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,439
Speaker 1: of the XFL championship would play the worst NFL team

769
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: that season. If the XFL team wins, they get promoted

770
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: to the NFL, and if the NFL team loses, they

771
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 1: get demoted to the XFL. I feel like that's something

772
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: fans of the sport would love to see. What do

773
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: you think? I find it hilarious whenever you speak and

774
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: change the tone of your voice to a higher pitch

775
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: and say, oh, you know, I probably didn't do that right? Uh?

776
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: I would say the owners would never ever go for that.

777
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: Like if I'm the Ford family, if I'm cal McNair,

778
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: if I'm Shot Khan, if I'm con and I've just

779
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 1: paid billions of dollars for the Jags, under no circumstances

780
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: can you send me to the XFL? So I I

781
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: agree it would be sweet, though the NFL team would

782
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: fucking kill him. Do you know what the Jags would

783
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: do to like the XFL team. I mean the Jacks

784
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: be the Colts Week eight team with an interim coach.

785
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 1: They would destroy them. Duh destroy. I talked a little

786
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 1: mess about the USFL. I went to the gym Saturday morning,

787
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: and you know, I would imagine most treadmills. Now, you

788
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: know at gym's have TV, so you know, I always

789
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: like to throw on a game or something if I'm

790
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: just running or jogging or fast walking or whatever I'm

791
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: doing to get a little sweat. The USFL was on,

792
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: It wasn't terrible. Now, I would not watch at home

793
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: with other stuff on. I would only watch in a

794
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: situation like I'm on the treadmill and there's not like

795
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: some sweet golf tournament or the Warriors are playing. But

796
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 1: it was, it was, it was viewable. Now an NFL

797
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: team the you're you're talking the XFL, but the us

798
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: THAT they would destroy. Those guys d destroy. But I like,

799
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: like you thinking outside the box. We're always looking for ideas.

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00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: Here drive on ideas. Hey John, using my wife's instagram

801
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: for a quick question, what do you think will happen

802
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 1: with Baker Mayfield? Could you see him being cut? If so,

803
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: where do you think he would go and what type

804
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: of contract do you think he would get? Keep up

805
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: the good work. I don't know. If you had a

806
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 1: chance to see Baker mayfield statue at Oklahoma, it looks

807
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: nothing like him, Like his statue doesn't even remotely resemble

808
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: anything of Baker Mayfield. I think there's a decent chance

809
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 1: he gets cut, yes, because there's only a small handful

810
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:27,959
Speaker 1: of teams that would take him, and no one's gonna

811
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 1: take his eighteen million dollars. Now, what I also think

812
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: is pretty likely is the Browns eat a bunch of

813
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 1: money and maybe Seattle trades like a fifth round pick

814
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 1: for eight million dollar Baker Mayfield and they split the cost.

815
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: I think that would be on the table. But cutting

816
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: I think cutting Jimmy Garoppolo and cutting Baker Mayfield is

817
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 1: on the table for both guys. Now the forty Niners,

818
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: I mean, if they truly had to and Jimmy would

819
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: accept to be the backup, could keep him. John Lynch

820
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: said that they're open to paying him seven million dollars

821
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: to be on the team, which I think is a

822
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: little bit of a lie. But Baker Mayfield will not

823
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: be on the Browns. So if they cannot trade a

824
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield will be cut. That will happen. Do you

825
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: think Lebron gets traded in the off season. I don't

826
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: because anyone, he's going to be a free agent after

827
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: this year, so any and he's thirty seven thirty, he's

828
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: my age. I mean we graduated high school the same year,

829
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: which is pretty crazy. He stayed in great shape. I've

830
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: fluctuated and uh like, he's still an excellent player. But

831
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: what would the Lakers get in value? They would make

832
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: it worth it trading Lebron. It's a star driven organization.

833
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: Winning Time is one of the best shows. I hate it.

834
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: I mean I really do, for the way they made

835
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 1: all these guys look, especially Jerry West. I met Jerry

836
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: West a couple of times at the Warriors games back

837
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: when I was doing radio. He was such a badass

838
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: and they make him look like a nut job, even

839
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: though he had one of the greatest lines in the

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00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: latest episode ever about He's like he was talking to

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00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: Magic Johnson. He said, you know what talent gets you

842
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: women and press I was like, that is a great line.

843
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: He said, winners are assholes now, Jerry, you know, but

844
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: just talent gets you ladies. And press, and I started thinking,

845
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: it is so true. We love talent in America. You

846
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: don't need to live up to the hype because if

847
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Speaker 1: you're talented, we hype you up in the media, all

848
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: the ladies want to be with you. You don't even

849
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: actually have to be successful if we just like, think

850
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: of all the guys in the draft. Half these guys

851
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: are gonna be bus We've now anointed them. They're gonna

852
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: get a bunch of money, They're gonna get a bunch

853
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: of press. It was a genius line, and he didn't

854
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: use women as his line. He used another line. But

855
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to be kids friendly, not totally

856
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: kid friendly. But I love the show listen all the time,

857
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: have shared it with my friends. I appreciate that I'm

858
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: allowed and proud member of the Ramilli. I'm wondering if

859
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: you have any insight on this. I haven't heard anyone

860
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: talk about it. Has any team ever had to play

861
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: to division opponents in the playoffs to earn a Super

862
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: Bowl birth the way the Rams just did pretty amazing.

863
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: That they had to face two division opponents three times

864
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: in a four week period. Thanks in advance, that's a

865
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: hell of a question. Uh, I'm not going to do

866
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: the research, but if you think about the Rams, the

867
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: Rams played the Niners Week eight team, they played the

868
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: Cardinals a week later on Monday Night Football in the

869
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: first round of the playoffs. Then they played tom and

870
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: then they played the forty Niners again. So and that

871
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 1: final game they got lucky because the Cardinals lost. They

872
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: had to win if the Cardinals hadn't blown it to

873
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: Seattle to win the division. It was one of the

874
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: weirdest situations and vibes I've ever seen. What's his name?

875
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 1: I wanted to say Josh Norman, but it was Ambree Thomas.

876
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: That forty Niners rookie picks off Matt Stafford and the

877
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: Niners just go nuts. They stormed the field, but the

878
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: Cardinals had just lost the Seattle So after on the

879
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: on as so Fi stadium, like their video board is circular,

880
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: so it's basically one big circle on top of the

881
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: stadium and it just says Rams Division champs. But obviously

882
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: they're not celebrating. It was a devastating loss. It was bizarre.

883
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,720
Speaker 1: But then they kicked Clifton Kyler's ass and then Kyler

884
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 1: wants two million dollars. Kind of weird. So I would

885
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: say that their stretch is pretty unique. Yes, but we've

886
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: seen a lot of We've seen a lot of divisional

887
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: matchups over the years, right, I'm just trying to think.

888
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: I mean the Bills and the Patriots played. But yeah,

889
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: two divisional matchups in the playoffs pretty hard because that

890
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: means you need three teams from your division. If you

891
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: get three teams from your division the playoffs, that's pretty impressive,

892
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 1: it really is. It happened a couple of years ago, right, Ravens, Steelers,

893
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: and uh, and the Browns. But the Browns who the

894
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: Browns end up playing that year? The Chiefs. Yeah, the

895
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: Browns played the Chiefs and then the Steelers. I don't

896
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: even remember the playoffs from two years ago. Oh, play

897
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: the Bills. I might even have that screwed up. It

898
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: doesn't even sound right. Hello, what are your thoughts on

899
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence? I am an invest on his cards and memorabilia,

900
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: so I'm hoping for big step forward I have. Uh,

901
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: what's funny is the card investing in Memorabilian cards? It's

902
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: probably maybe it's something I should be involved in because

903
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: I feel like I, you know, at least could take

904
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: some pretty good educated guesses. I love Trevor Lawrence as

905
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: a player in college. All my friends that do the

906
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: sec I mean, so I only have a couple, but

907
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: guys that you know, they've been doing it a long

908
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: time say he's the best quarterback they've ever watched. So

909
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: I I think it's a pretty good calculated risk. I

910
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: think it's a pretty good educated guess. Now he's got

911
00:47:55,320 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, so I would like your chances. Lifelong Seattle fan,

912
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: hopeful but terrified. I'm not sure the perspective outside Seattle is,

913
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: but here it felt like Russell Wilson era needed to end.

914
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: I'm sad to see Russ the football player go, but

915
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: I have to say I'm relieved Wilson the brand is gone.

916
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 1: The drama, the baseball agent, the behind the scene rumors,

917
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: and the descent from his own teammates. Dating back to

918
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: the Legion of Boom days, there became a level of

919
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: rumors and speculation with him on a yearly basis that

920
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: became exhausting. He absolutely are in the right to be

921
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: a bit of a diva, but the nice guy platitudes

922
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: in front of the camera wor thinned. I agree, I

923
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 1: can't stand that crap. One issue I have with Russell Wilson,

924
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: and it might maybe it's because of his wife takes

925
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: bodyguards everywhere. When when Peyton Manning goes to the Nuggets game,

926
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 1: he just shows up with his son Marshall. I think

927
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: his son's Marshall. Maybe that's Matt Ryan's son. Maybe his

928
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: son's knocks, I don't know whatever, but he does. Peyton

929
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: Manning just goes place. You just see Peyton Manning, you know,

930
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: like he doesn't need a bodyguard. I've heard a story

931
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 1: about Russell Wilson having a golf tournament where everyone at

932
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: the golf tournament. Maybe it was a charity event. It

933
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: was a golf tournament that turned into a night dinner,

934
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: a charity event, and he showed up for that. Every

935
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: single person at the event he invited, so he knew right, teammates,

936
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: business partners, He brought security to that. It's like, Russell,

937
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: you're not fucking Prince Charles here, buddy. You just it's

938
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: not that big a deal. I just feel like he's

939
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: it's kind of in his own little world. But beyond that,

940
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: the greatest weapon on the field. I don't deny you

941
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: could go to Denver. Your your thoughts on the Yeah,

942
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: I mean he would have drove me nuts. He really

943
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,720
Speaker 1: would have. I don't do that at that type stuff,

944
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: I mean just makes me cringe. But from your ultimately

945
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: in the football business, and Russell's the best player in

946
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: the history of franchise. So trading Russell Wilson when the

947
00:49:55,719 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks on your roster Drew Lock and uh and

948
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: Gino Smith, even if you get Baker, that's pretty risky. Man,

949
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: Like you guys could really suck. But I don't blame

950
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: them for getting a divorce. You know, it's I get it,

951
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 1: but it's risky. Fan of the pod, I'm a fellow

952
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: Norcow guy. I'm from the Marysville area. I'm a huge

953
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: Eagles fan. What are your thoughts on the NFC East

954
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: this year? Uh, I would say if the Eagles hit

955
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 1: some home runs on this draft, if the two guys

956
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: they draft in the first round are immediate starters, you know,

957
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: the Cowboys got worse. Now, the Cowboys in the one

958
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: game they tried against you kicked your ass. But you

959
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: lose Gregory, you lose a Mari. You know, Zeke's not

960
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: as good. Their a lines not as good. They lose Collins,

961
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,240
Speaker 1: I think the gap again. I'm not the biggest Jalen

962
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: Hurts guy, but their team is gonna be really good.

963
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: The Eagles team is good. If you put Dak on

964
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: the Eagles and Swift flop, the Eagles would be dramatically

965
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: better than the Cowboys. The other thing is like I

966
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: would take Sirianni over Mike McCarthy. I don't think Mike

967
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: McCarthy is any good. So if Sirianni is a good coach,

968
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: I think you could win the division, and honestly, this

969
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: year to win the division eleven games could win it.

970
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,959
Speaker 1: My question is what are your thoughts on the most

971
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: underrated trait and elite player possesses. I always hear talent, this,

972
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: talent that, but Carson Wentz his talent to Jake Cutler

973
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: and one of the best arms we've ever seen. I

974
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: feel like self awareness is overlooked by the media and

975
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: fans alike. Great talent who lack any self awareness end

976
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: up like Cutler. Russell Westbrook thoughts, Yeah, it's a self

977
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: awareness is just a quality for any successful person to

978
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,919
Speaker 1: know when because we all, I mean any human being

979
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,439
Speaker 1: has somewhat of an ego and somewhat can be hard

980
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: to be told you're doing this wrong or do that.

981
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,399
Speaker 1: Self awareness is important, but I think one thing those

982
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: guys Cutler and definitely Carson Lax is the ability to

983
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: resonate with just other humans. Russell I think struggles with that.

984
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: Now he's so good it doesn't matter, But like, can

985
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: you just be a guy's guy? To be a quarterback,

986
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: like you have to get along with the receivers, the

987
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: tight ends, the fullback, the running back, your offensive lineman,

988
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: your coaches, your general manager, your owner. You gotta manage up,

989
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: you gotta manage down the trainers. Like It's just I

990
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 1: I think you have to have a good understanding of people,

991
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: you know. It's what like makes a great salesman. They

992
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: can just interact with anyone. And I think a great

993
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: salesman is actually just the kind of a get it guy.

994
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: He just he just understands how to interact. He doesn't

995
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: necessarily have to be a faker. Phony I think Tom Brady,

996
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, I think they have that, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen.

997
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: They just get along with people just like them. So

998
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: I think obviously the the intangible stuff, the work ethic,

999
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: the intelligence, the love of football, but I'd even put

1000
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: above self awareness, just being a really good guy. I

1001
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: think that helps a lot. I've seen it here with

1002
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: like in the Giants and the Warriors, like Steph Curry,

1003
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: Buster Posey. People really like them, and when they really

1004
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: like you, they that means they really respect you. And

1005
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: when you're the best player or star player or the

1006
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: highest paid player, you've gotta be respected by your teammates.

1007
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: And the easiest way to gain respect is obviously through

1008
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: good play. But being a human being that others kind

1009
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: of look up to, because I think whether you're from

1010
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: low income, high income division two sec usc texted doesn't matter.

1011
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: You just kind of gravitate toward impressive people when you're

1012
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: a talented individual, right, and for whatever reason, some guys

1013
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: have it and some guys don't. But I'm with you.

1014
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: I think talent. I mean, there's been a book talent

1015
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: is overrated, right, It's true. That's a good question. Like

1016
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: I think Russell Westbrook people like him. I think Carson

1017
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: Wentz people don't like him. Cutler I think was kind

1018
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: of just a weird dude. You know. I think all

1019
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: those guys kind of fall in different categories. But I

1020
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: know what you're saying. What are your thoughts on the

1021
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 1: wide receiver market. Do you think teams will realize paying

1022
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 1: some of these wide receivers the second most on the

1023
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: team isn't worth it. With these great college wide receivers

1024
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: coming out, you could argue the Vikings one just by

1025
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: letting Digs go. In drafting Jefferson, it feels like the

1026
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: market will catch up with him. I think Burkes could

1027
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 1: replace Debo without much of an issue. See, I think

1028
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: it's easy to say that Deebo Samuel last year was

1029
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: one of the best players in the NFL. Like pound

1030
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: for pound, one of the most dominant players in the NFL.

1031
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 1: He was unstoppable against playoff teams, bad teams, playoffs dominated

1032
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: Like the chance that Brooks can replace Debo. It turns

1033
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: out justin Jefferson's is immediately a top five wide receiver.

1034
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: You know, I I'm not saying Burks couldn't replace Debo,

1035
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: but there's no guarantee. But I hear you, Like, if

1036
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: you told me Burkes was Debot, you would do the trade.

1037
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: You would just be like, give me ten thirty eight.

1038
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,720
Speaker 1: Here's uh, here's Deebo Samuel will get a cheaper player.

1039
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: And we'll get another player. But it's not that easy.

1040
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: And I think it's from an economic standpoint, it's easy

1041
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: to think like that, and I think it's fair to

1042
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 1: think like that, and I think it's correct to think

1043
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: like that. But from it's it's easy to get on

1044
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 1: the white board to start doing supply demand theories, and

1045
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: it all makes sense. You go to Harvard Business School, funk,

1046
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: they could build any company on a white board. And

1047
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 1: then you get to actual football practice, and then you

1048
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: actually play the games. And I'm playing the Rams, like,

1049
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: is Burke's gonna score me a touchdown against the Rams

1050
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: second game of his career as a rookie because Deebo

1051
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: can score three immediately and I'm trying to win games.

1052
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: So that's that's what you kind of have to ask yourself. Okay,

1053
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: last one question for the part. I'm a Panthers fan lifelong,

1054
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: trying to make sense of the situation we're in as

1055
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: a franchise as bad as rule is bad, and Temper

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00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: was the one who put him in place at a

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00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: price point that was hard to justify at the time

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00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: given he had very little pro coaching experience, and impossible

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00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:14,959
Speaker 1: to justify now given how little we've improved. Now before

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Speaker 1: I read the rest of the question, I'm gonna pump

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00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 1: the brakes there. He was making I think eight million

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00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 1: dollars at Baylor, so he just the reason he got

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00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:27,720
Speaker 1: so much money. One, he was not gonna leave Baylor

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00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: if they didn't blow him away. And he was making

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00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: a ton of cash in Texas no state income tax.

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Speaker 1: So the reason Temper had to give him whatever, sixty

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00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 1: eight five, I forget the number. They gave him a

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00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: ton was because of what he was mad. If he

1069
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: would have been making four million dollars, they wouldn't have

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00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: paid him so much. Just supply demand, And ultimately it

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00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: doesn't impact It's just Temper. It doesn't like impact the

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00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: salary cap. But I hear what you're saying. You see

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00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 1: the guy making that much money and your team is

1074
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: not that good. You're like, what the hell is going on?

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00:56:56,120 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: The team seems to have almost no direction to same

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00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: success in the near future, with bad contracts, no draft picks,

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00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: and a frustrated fan base. It feels like it needs

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00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,919
Speaker 1: to be torn down, but management insists on finding these

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00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 1: bridge guys to keep us afloat. In your opinion, is

1080
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: there anything more damning than bad ownership. At the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, rule is replaceable. Donald is replaceable. Temper's

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00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: vision and ego is not. If Temper is a meddlesome,

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00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: crazy ass owner, you are screwed. That is not debatable.

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00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: I don't follow the Panthers that closely, but from afar

1085
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: it felt like Jerry Richinson, let Ron and I guess

1086
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: Gettleman at the time kind of do a lot. Just

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00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: let them pick players and run the thing. And you

1088
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: guys were successful, and when camp was healthy, you guys

1089
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: were always in a playoff mix. Temper pays all this

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00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: money for the team two point two billion, two point

1091
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: four forget the exact number. Put yourself in his shoes.

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00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: Everything you've ever done was had your hands on it. Right.

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00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: You were the leader of the firm, making all the

1094
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: money in the stock market. These were your ideas. People

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00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: annointed you as this great stock trader, and then you

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00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: own the NFL team, and let's face it, you know

1097
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: nothing about football beside is what a fan would know.

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00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: But you're gonna have ideas on how to do things,

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00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: and it's probably not easy to work for him. It's

1100
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: been pretty clear that it's been floated out by the

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00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: Mortonson's just people in the NFL that covered the NFL

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00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: that kind of no ship. That Matt Rule doesn't care

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00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,919
Speaker 1: if he gets fired. Almost like you know, Matt Rule

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00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: doesn't love working for this guy. He left a situation

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00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: where he was the boss to where he's not the boss.

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00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: Which why when you have a great situation in college? Right,

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00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: Nick Saban Kirby smart, what Matt Rule had a Baylor

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00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: what Lincoln Riley had at Oklahoma now has at USC?

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00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 1: What Urban had it Ohio State? What Hardball hasn't? You

1110
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: don't answer that you run the school. It's it's all you.

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00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: You're the boss. You don't no the a DS not

1112
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: signing your checks. It's not his money if you if

1113
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: you win, like Lank Kivin doesn't have to take orders

1114
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: from the a D. Now beside, like you know your

1115
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: business partners to kind of or whatever. I mean, you

1116
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: have a good relationship, but like he's not telling you

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00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: to do certain things you don't want to do. In

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00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: the NFL, if the owner wants you to do something,

1119
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: you're doing it. His name is signed at the bottom

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00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 1: of all your checks. And I get you get directed positive,

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00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean if Matt Rule calls,

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00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: or excuse me, if David Tepper calls Matt Rule and says, hey,

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00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: we're meeting tomorrow at seven am. You're meeting tomorrow at

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00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 1: seven am. If the a d calls Nick Saban, Nick

1125
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 1: Saban doesn't even have to pick up, let alone do

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00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: something that he doesn't want to do. So I think

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00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: these situations like, I just think Matt Rule had been

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00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: in the league one year, so when you make that

1129
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 1: jump to the NFL, you're in charge of the salary cap,

1130
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: you're in charge of the draft, you're in charge of

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00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: free He'd never done any of that. It's just it's

1132
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: very not everyone. There are only so many Jimmy Johnson's.

1133
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 1: They can go a seamless transition from the college game

1134
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: to the NFL and crushing most got Chip Kelly ran

1135
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: out of the league. Urban Meyer all time, laughing stock.

1136
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: Steve Spurrier didn't last at all. Bobby Petrino went running

1137
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Speaker 1: back to college. And I don't blame them, Like college

1138
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: pays a lot. It's not like they're going from a

1139
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: job that pays seven million to a job that pays one.

1140
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 1: A lot of some of these guys get raises, how

1141
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: many NFL coaches you think made more than Nick, but

1142
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: it is. It's just a it's a different business model

1143
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: because there's a true owner. I think, if you like

1144
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: how many people run the University of Texas, how many

1145
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: boosters think that they are the guy in charge? Probably

1146
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: thirty of them? Or USC or Oklahoma or Georgia. Now

1147
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: there are certain boosters that have more juice than others,

1148
01:00:56,320 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: but there's not one individual booster unless you're at Nike

1149
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: or I mean Oregon with Phil Knight or Oklahoma State

1150
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: with with t Boon. You know, I mean they're there

1151
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 1: are There are three or four guys like that throughout

1152
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 1: the country. But for the most part, like you're answering

1153
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: kind of the group and the school. In football, you're

1154
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: answering to like Jeffrey Lurry, Jerry Jones, Bob Kraft, right,

1155
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 1: John Mara, Glazers Wolf. They want something, they tell you

1156
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 1: to jump, you say how Hi. So it's just I

1157
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: think it's just if he's bad, which is very possible.

1158
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: Shot Khan is a great businessman, but every single team

1159
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 1: he owns sucks. David Tepper is one of the great

1160
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: stock traders in the history of this country. It's been

1161
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: a debacle so far. News flash, really really hard to

1162
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 1: own sports teams and be a good owner, Very very difficult.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate everybody. Draft coming up Thursday. Let's keep rocking and rolling.

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