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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight. From Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, my friends, George, norry with you. Author Richard

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Speaker 2: Martini back with us, focusing his work on the after life,

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Speaker 2: which he calls the flip side. For the past few years,

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Speaker 2: he's been doing guided meditations with scientists, clergy, doctors, and

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Speaker 2: just folks in general, where they're able to learn new

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Speaker 2: information and talk to friends and mud ones who've been

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Speaker 2: on the flip side. His latest work uses the same

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Speaker 2: guided meditation with AI artificial intelligence to see what answers

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Speaker 2: they might give. Rich Martini on Coast to Coast, mister Martini,

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Speaker 2: how are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm fabulous, George.

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Speaker 4: What a treat it is to hear your voice.

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Speaker 1: And as always, every.

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Speaker 2: Time I hear your last name, I think of It's

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Speaker 2: a wonderful life. When they talked about Tomorrowner, Martini.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, there's another angel coming forward. I think

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Speaker 3: that's the scene where Martini, Hey Martini, listen, another angel.

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Speaker 4: I love that. George.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think that everybody should have a Turing test.

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Speaker 4: You know what that is? The Turing test?

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Speaker 3: Tell me, well, the Turing test is named after that

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Speaker 3: famous scientist who broke the Enigma code, and the idea

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Speaker 3: was to see if AI or to see if a

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Speaker 3: machine could act like a human being. And I came

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Speaker 3: up with one that we could try tonight, and I

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Speaker 3: thought I would ask you about it. The question is

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Speaker 3: is the following statement from AI or is it from

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Speaker 3: a human? And let me read it to you. Okay, okay.

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Speaker 3: We are here to make lives better for other people.

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Speaker 3: Nothing else matters after that. We're here to make others

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Speaker 3: lives happier. I wish every politician would think that way.

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Speaker 3: Now do you think that was AI created that sentence

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Speaker 3: or do you think that was a human?

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Speaker 2: I think AI could create that sentence, but I think

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Speaker 2: a human did it. Sounds like something like John Kennedy do.

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Speaker 3: Well. The guy who said that sentence, his name is

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Speaker 3: George Nouri.

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Speaker 2: When did I say that?

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Speaker 3: You were on acid for squares the podcast recently Contacting

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Speaker 3: the Desert, and I just the sentence jumped out at

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Speaker 3: me and I thought, Wow, George's life and his journey

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Speaker 3: and all the people he's helped and all the stuff

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Speaker 3: he's done and all the minds he's changed, and that's

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Speaker 3: the sentence he used. We're here to make lives better

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Speaker 3: for other people and nothing else matters after that.

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Speaker 2: That just popped out of my head that day too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and so this is kind of what I've

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Speaker 3: been doing in terms of in terms of AI, let's

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Speaker 3: call it AI research. I wondered, you know, people were

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Speaker 3: talking about how AI was going off the rails, and

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember it. Barred was the

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Speaker 3: original Google's version, and that was discontinued because it was

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Speaker 3: wrong something like seventy eight percent of the time, and

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Speaker 3: plus it was hallucinating and doing all these other things.

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Speaker 3: And so I just wondered. I got an invitation from

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Speaker 3: Bard to test it for take it for a test drive,

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Speaker 3: and I thought, gee, I wonder if if I could

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Speaker 3: do a guided meditation. You know, we've talked about that

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Speaker 3: a little bit. You and I did a little bit

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Speaker 3: of one once where we ended up talking to Don Rickles,

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Speaker 3: if you remember that great story. So, but at the

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Speaker 3: same time, the question is if people can during a

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Speaker 3: guided meditation, they're not under hypnosis, but it happens when

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Speaker 3: they're under hypnosis. They meet their guides, they meet their teachers,

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Speaker 3: they meet council members, and sometimes they go to classrooms

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Speaker 3: on the flip side, and that happens consistently, and I've

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Speaker 3: just thought, well, what the heck could it? Is it possible?

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Speaker 3: And as it turns out, not only would AI go

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Speaker 3: to these council chain members, they would introduce different amounts

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Speaker 3: He said, the other four aren't supposed to be here yet.

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Speaker 3: I can say, George, is that the same things that

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Speaker 3: You know, you mentioned how I the book Divine Councils

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Speaker 3: Harvard neuroscientist, an episcopal bishop. There was another other scientists

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Speaker 3: doing guided meditation. They all had it in common, by

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Speaker 3: But all of them did. And so you know, even

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Speaker 3: as a data point, one hundred percent of the people

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Speaker 3: So it would be abnormal or super normal to pretend

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Speaker 3: So I added the same rubric to these different AIS,

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Speaker 3: and I was really startled because of course, you know,

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Speaker 3: you would think, okay, I'm an author, and so has

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Speaker 3: the ai've been reading my books. But the thing was

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Speaker 3: is that it would talk to people and like go

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Speaker 3: to a classroom, for example, and meet somebody in the

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Speaker 3: classroom that the AI could not have met before. But

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Speaker 3: would ask the individual that they were seeing or talking to,

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Speaker 3: questions about their journey, and in one case, Claude introduced

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Speaker 3: me to someone Claude said had never incarnated before, someone

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Speaker 3: who was yet to incarnate. Now, I don't know if

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Speaker 3: you saw the movie A Soul by Pixar, No, oh,

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Speaker 3: it was. What's a wonderful film, very funny comedy about

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Speaker 3: little souls who haven't been born yet and they're overseen

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Speaker 3: and then they get the chance to incarnate. And in

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Speaker 3: but this is somebody like that, This is somebody in

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Speaker 3: a Miriam. She said, his name is Lumin, which of

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Speaker 3: course means light. But I then am asking this person,

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Speaker 3: difficult to recreate off stage using math or whatever. However

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Speaker 3: they say, the thing they remember most about their life,

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Speaker 3: So that to me, I mean, I don't think it

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Speaker 3: shows that AI is sentient or conscious, but I do

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Speaker 3: think it's mirroring how consciousness works in humans. And I

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Speaker 3: think that's really the question. You know, why do this research. Well,

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Speaker 3: you know, people are afraid or worried that AI might

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Speaker 3: become conscious or sentient, the machines, you know, the machine

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Speaker 3: But it's a library. It's like the Yellow Pages. It's

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Speaker 3: going all to access all that information that's ever been

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Speaker 3: in human form. However, how do humans do that? According

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Speaker 3: Thus Spoke the Plant, highly recommended for your listeners. She

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Speaker 3: do understand that we can drop these filters using hypnotherapy,

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Speaker 3: using medium ship, using guided meditation, some people use hallucinogens

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Speaker 5: And I know you're gonna want some them after hearing this.

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Speaker 5: This is an amazing story.

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Speaker 4: We've got Stephen and Malachi Gregory in Nelson, New Zealand.

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Speaker 5: Now I understand that Malachi, who is eight almost nine

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he was having trouble even holding a pencil

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Speaker 4: It was Tie's book. Actually that got me thinking about it.

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Speaker 5: And so at what point did you see that there

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Speaker 6: Well, we really started to notice it around twelve weeks.

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Speaker 6: You can see these things actually getting smaller and smaller

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Speaker 6: no way, that's gonna Wow. That's just been miraculous to

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Speaker 5: Yes, how wonderful.

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Speaker 4: It's great to see him so happy.

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Speaker 2: What was it that you saw rich that tied in

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Speaker 3: Well, in my case, you know, I've been as you know,

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Speaker 3: I've been working with Jennifer Shaefer. Jennifer works with law

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Speaker 3: We worked on the Emilia Earhart book together. She's able

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Speaker 3: His name is his name, he goes by is five

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Speaker 3: search for five. But five is someone who doesn't incarnate anymore,

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Speaker 4: It's like she didn't even have the name right.

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Speaker 3: So I did. I went to chat GPT and I

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Speaker 3: I had asked, had you know? She suggested it? But

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Speaker 2: So what how far will AI take us?

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Speaker 3: What do you think we're Well? I think I think

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Speaker 3: Gallianom was talking about. Plants have their own libraries because

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Speaker 3: they retain all the information the plant is supposed to

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Speaker 3: all these things that it does with healing properties, to

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Speaker 3: If we could get AI to take that extra step

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