Speaker 1: Hello, ram By, Yeah, all right, bye, what it's like
Speaker 1: to work on this show?
Speaker 2: Hello By?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hello ram By?
Speaker 2: Hello Andrew? Hello, then Andrew.
Speaker 3: You what happened to you? Guys?
Speaker 2: Are you doing that? You're just pushed us over the brink?
Speaker 3: Not that bye, Oh, I've got terrible sleep deprivation, man,
Speaker 3: sleep deprivation, Andrew. It's CIA Black site levels. Mate, Maybe
Speaker 3: not maybe not that bad. Maybe not in a CIA
Speaker 3: Black site. Ah. Man, this is wonderful energy to come
Speaker 3: into hold.
Speaker 1: I'm so I'm in a state of delirium from lack
Speaker 1: of sleep over the the last I have like accumulated
Speaker 1: maybe five hours of sleep since.
Speaker 4: Fuck, wait, what happened? My fucking kids? My fucking baby
Speaker 4: stein his crib.
Speaker 3: So we had to get the dang we had to
Speaker 3: get the tottle the bed out for him, tot the
Speaker 3: bed out for him, and he just escapes the bloody thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like he's just so free now. But
Speaker 1: also like this is all part of his development. He's
Speaker 1: now fully in that thing.
Speaker 2: And I liked can fly and he's just.
Speaker 3: Like, what are you doing? What's that? What's that? Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's just fucking it's crazy over here. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 3: let's do this.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, well I was just that's not not a typical.
Speaker 3: Well, not that I were screaming at Bay. There's a
Speaker 3: lot of.
Speaker 2: Insane super cut of accent, I think, just all the
Speaker 2: dumb accents, all right, damn Bay? And then Andrew asking
Speaker 2: why are energy? Yeah, he doesn't need to be a
Speaker 2: typical Yeah, not a typical week, not a typical show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't go. I don't have much in the tank, man,
Speaker 3: That's pretty much all I can give you A the tank.
Speaker 3: I'm Hank the fucking tank right.
Speaker 2: Now, the famous Hank the tank.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's me, Hank the Hank Engine, Thomas, the Hank Engine.
Speaker 2: Is that a thing?
Speaker 3: Can we use that?
Speaker 2: I have nothing in the tank? Two? Is that a thing?
Speaker 2: I think feels like a call?
Speaker 3: Though I have nothing in the tank too? Is that
Speaker 3: a thing?
Speaker 2: Pipeline Hell, the Internet and welcome in ninety three, Episode
Speaker 2: four of Daredey's Guys. It's a production of iHeart Radio.
Speaker 2: It's a podcast where we take a deep down to America,
Speaker 2: share countess and it is Thursday, June nineteenth, twenty twenty five. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's Junete. Hey.
Speaker 1: Unless you're corporate America, then it's just Thursday, the nice Thursday.
Speaker 2: We're off. We're off obviously, so no episode tomorrow, episode exactly.
Speaker 3: That's where we went.
Speaker 1: But yeah, again, if you don't know what you should know,
Speaker 1: fucking Juneteenth this, I'm not here to fuck it.
Speaker 3: If you don't know, come on now, educate yourself.
Speaker 1: And it's also World Sauntering Day, which feels like aggressive
Speaker 1: to juxtaposteenth with being like, hey, why.
Speaker 3: Do you just take like a casual, fancy.
Speaker 2: Free walk on this day and then like the best
Speaker 2: description of the gate of the the slave owners sauntering around? Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, oh my god, day for sauntering, it says,
Speaker 2: slow down.
Speaker 3: In fact, try mosying around on June nineteen. All right,
Speaker 3: oh whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah, I thought MOSI Day
Speaker 3: was coming out of violence. Yeah, I know, I know,
Speaker 3: I know, I know.
Speaker 1: Anyway, we see you shout out black people, shout out,
Speaker 1: you know, freedom for the moment, for the moment, for the.
Speaker 2: Moment, as my favorite freedom fighter Mel Gibson once said,
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, all right, my name is Jack O'Brien aka,
Speaker 2: we start World War three. I got it in Yahoo
Speaker 2: with me. We start World War three. Congress they can
Speaker 2: suck on my peen one courtesy of Nick cepper Tyrannis
Speaker 2: Nick Simper Tyrannis on the discord. A bit of the
Speaker 2: Nick temper Tyrannis on the discord, I think written from
Speaker 2: the perspective of h I don't know one Donald Trump, Yeah,
Speaker 2: g Vance, m h yeah, this is this was the
Speaker 2: fear all along imp the dipshit in there. He's gonna
Speaker 2: start World War three because somebody was like mean to him,
Speaker 2: because we did a protest. Those mean to him and
Speaker 2: He's like, oh yeah, check this ship out.
Speaker 3: I'm weir right now out. Yeah you think I'm baby.
Speaker 2: Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my
Speaker 2: co host, mister Miles Gray.
Speaker 3: Miles Great, the showgun with no gun, the most sleep
Speaker 3: deprived dude in the San Fernando Valley at the moment,
Speaker 3: I do want to shout out all that gang who's
Speaker 3: reached out through many channels on social media. If someone
Speaker 3: even posted, like I saw a thing on Reddit where
Speaker 3: people were trying to give you advice, baby, like I
Speaker 3: love that gang. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Training for Miles.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, so again, thank you, thank you for
Speaker 3: all the tips. I'm still in the trenches as it were.
Speaker 2: But I will say overwhelmingly they seem to be give
Speaker 2: give the baby a weed gummy, and I just I
Speaker 2: feel like that's not.
Speaker 3: I think we should we should knock that show encouraged
Speaker 3: child abuse. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not going to do that,
Speaker 3: but I am doing. Look, there have been many variations
Speaker 3: on like just just kind of hit just fucking hang
Speaker 3: out a little bit, they fall asleep. I've been trying
Speaker 3: to that, but then he does a thing Jack like
Speaker 3: you said your kid did the second I shift.
Speaker 2: The weight where you go where you.
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, it's it's it's wild, but we're We're I'm
Speaker 3: finding a balance. It's wild.
Speaker 1: I also I get so clear in the middle of
Speaker 1: the night where I'm like barely asleep, I'm like sort
Speaker 1: of this like lucid state where a lot of really
Speaker 1: too bad ideas come to my mind that I that
Speaker 1: I think will make a good cold open. And they
Speaker 1: don't try to start night podcasting, just keep a little
Speaker 1: just whisper night casting.
Speaker 3: Baby still won't sleep. Hey man, you got something to say,
Speaker 3: You got something to say that you don't go fuck?
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I had something to say. I'm also a
Speaker 2: little sleep deprepped, so I had a thing to say
Speaker 2: that left my brain.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you guys this. I feel great.
Speaker 2: I got plenty of sleep.
Speaker 3: Yeah, at least, look one out of three ain't bad.
Speaker 2: So that's right.
Speaker 3: I'm well rested, but under prepared. Don't worry.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tap into some then I'm tapping into something
Speaker 1: to keep this show fucking elevator.
Speaker 3: Let's fucking go. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh, I remember what I was gonna say. I remember
Speaker 2: this period of my life when my life constantly my
Speaker 2: life shout out to Mela delirious, having a new found
Speaker 2: appreciation for the drugs that your brain like dumps into
Speaker 2: your bloodstream as you're falling asleep, you know, like that
Speaker 2: that lucid clarity where you just like get to know
Speaker 2: sleep a little bit better because you're kind of constantly
Speaker 2: like in and out of it, you know. And then
Speaker 2: like that was the first time I had a real appreciation.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, like all the drugs that we do
Speaker 2: are just like trying to get back to what is, yeah,
Speaker 2: what our brain naturally does for us, where it's just
Speaker 2: like and you're high, like that's what dreams are. It's
Speaker 2: just like you are so high right now and floating
Speaker 2: away on a stream of brain chemicals. Enjoy. Does that
Speaker 2: make sense?
Speaker 6: Well, because because the drugs don't create the chemical, they're
Speaker 6: just squeezing it out.
Speaker 2: Give your brain. I don't think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not that M D M A I'm looking for.
Speaker 3: I needed to squeeze all the Sarah Tonin and neurot
Speaker 3: out of my.
Speaker 6: Brain and then I whoa, Right, I just said the
Speaker 6: most freshman in college version of realizing how drugs were
Speaker 6: so Having taken the bog hit, I am now philosophizing the.
Speaker 2: Freshman in college bung hit. Like first bung hit conversations
Speaker 2: are vastly underrated. That's that's the good stuff, that's yours.
Speaker 3: If you could just be like, bro, we've taped like
Speaker 3: it is. That's what this is, all right, that's true.
Speaker 3: That's the level I operate after. I don't like I
Speaker 3: don't like podcasts where people know ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's literally in the like crazy idea I had
Speaker 2: well looking at a pink Floyd poster.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And for me it's wild reckless speculation.
Speaker 2: That's right, quick thing. A bunch of new listeners for
Speaker 2: some reason, maybe the dissolution of the mainstream media impending fascism.
Speaker 2: But hi, welcome and uh yeah, if people like the show,
Speaker 2: rate review it, tell your friend about it.
Speaker 3: Got help, Thanks for thanks for listening. Yeah, thank you
Speaker 3: to a chance on this group.
Speaker 2: Of Thanks for taking right now.
Speaker 3: It's also conversation.
Speaker 2: It's just like so volatile, didn't you Miles were thrilled
Speaker 2: to be joined in the third our third seat, but
Speaker 2: one of our favorites, one of the very faces on
Speaker 2: Mount Zite wore a hilarious and brilliant producer, TV writer
Speaker 2: you know from the Yos This racist podcast one of
Speaker 2: the all time great podcasts. Yeah, it's Andrew to and.
Speaker 3: I didn't refer to Ka Ta, but normally I will
Speaker 3: say this, I usually plug it in quite a bit
Speaker 3: of effort trying to come up with a song.
Speaker 6: I did peruse briefly the Discord. New listeners, go check
Speaker 6: out the Discord. Still more pissed talk than I would
Speaker 6: have thought.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you gave them a nice talking to the
Speaker 2: last time you were on, you were like, go to
Speaker 2: the AKA thing. They took that as like a personal challenge,
Speaker 2: which I kind of respect, where they're just like yeah,
Speaker 2: oh yeah. They called out the fact that three years,
Speaker 2: probably longer. Four years after Jack told this anecdote, we're
Speaker 2: still just writing lyrics about his pants and pretending of
Speaker 2: his water ice. We're gonna do that even more.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, sorry, I'm just okay. Next time I'm on
Speaker 6: the show, my mission will be to tell a personal,
Speaker 6: bodily fluid anecdote extremity, even more extremity that.
Speaker 2: It doesn't need to be more. Yeah, although it is
Speaker 2: pretty unextreme, because I'm pretty sure pissed my pants. I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure it was, just like.
Speaker 3: Yours is the lowest song of embarrassing thing.
Speaker 2: I just think we could beat it. I just think
Speaker 2: we could beat it.
Speaker 6: I'm the throne I'm gutting for is relentless inside joke
Speaker 6: on the ak.
Speaker 2: Impenetrable akhe I'm pretty sure. I like, I know for
Speaker 2: a fact, I can be. There are plenty of story, embarrassing,
Speaker 2: humiliating stories from my life that I just haven't told yet.
Speaker 2: So it's we're we're dulling these out.
Speaker 5: This is.
Speaker 2: An arm right, man. When I was drinking too much, boy,
Speaker 2: oh boy, did I do some humiliating things. Folks. You'll
Speaker 2: find out about that in the years to come, I know,
Speaker 2: not not me. Anyway, really great new listeners material. This
Speaker 2: is impenetrable. Lare inside jokes. That's right, That's that's what
Speaker 2: we're here for.
Speaker 6: Wonderful, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Welcome, and now get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 2: Andrew. We're thrilled to have you. We're going to get
Speaker 2: to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 2: we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the
Speaker 2: things that we're talking about. Uh, we're going to just
Speaker 2: take a look at the general state of the world.
Speaker 2: How you know, we're seeing some bad things happen, and
Speaker 2: we're generally not good at looking running the tape back
Speaker 2: to see where that where those bad things from.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: But we're gonna we're gonna look at a couple the
Speaker 2: two big ones, Yeah, the Ice Raids and the war
Speaker 2: with Iran, the war being waged on Iran.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna look at both of those situations and
Speaker 3: whether the US had anything to do with.
Speaker 1: The anything to do anything, anything at all, probably anything
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just here. Things are happening to us.
Speaker 3: Not the American boomerang striking us right in the face again, camp, Yeah,
Speaker 3: at this time.
Speaker 2: So we'll talk about that. We'll also talk about why
Speaker 2: we like Tucker Carlson. Now, no that's not true, but Carlson,
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Resistance. Won't know how many times I've
Speaker 2: seen that tweeted. Now I'm one of our new listeners. Yeah,
Speaker 2: come to brunch. Now the live cookout is brunch. We
Speaker 2: need these people that the cookout. But the people who
Speaker 2: say talker Carls and welcome to brunch, I know exactly.
Speaker 2: We need the If Kama led one, we'd all be
Speaker 2: at brunch right now. We need them, We need them
Speaker 2: to watch to wide tent. I don't have to like them, though,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to talk med ship about them and
Speaker 2: you can.
Speaker 3: But look, we got to say focus man, it's about.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that. There's some there's an article in
Speaker 2: the New York Times just talking just giving some anecdotes
Speaker 2: and then some research about how people are interacting with chat,
Speaker 2: GPT and large large language models. That pretty fine, pretty wild.
Speaker 2: I'm always skeptical about these because I remember an era
Speaker 2: when the mainstream media was just combing the crime blodder
Speaker 2: for any crime that was committed that was in any
Speaker 2: way tangentially related to either video games or internet chat
Speaker 2: rooms would be like chat room murder, you know, like
Speaker 2: and so I don't want to fall into that. On
Speaker 2: the other hand, this stuff is pretty unique to chat,
Speaker 2: GBT and AI, and it's it's.
Speaker 6: Worked over ahead a little bit. I don't think it
Speaker 6: is man. People don't fucking Eliza in the nineties.
Speaker 2: That's true. Yeah, I think we're just what we're like.
Speaker 2: They are nonetheless very entertaining.
Speaker 1: I don't encouraging you to do harm to yourself, which
Speaker 1: in a lot of cases which.
Speaker 2: It is not entertaining. And Ozzy Osbourne's DNA you can
Speaker 2: go buy that, uh fortunately just to saliva. Ah.
Speaker 3: No, it's fine. Whatever you find under your.
Speaker 2: Canail, your come Ozzy Osbourne.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ozzy Osbourne. It's just what. He doesn't even have
Speaker 3: DNA at this point. I'm pretty sure he's like this.
Speaker 2: Household, we believe.
Speaker 3: Give me your Ozzie Osbourne.
Speaker 2: All right, Andrew, welcome new listeners, all of that plenty more.
Speaker 6: I feel like you guys took this as a challenge
Speaker 6: as much as.
Speaker 3: You know, all my ship is going to be weird
Speaker 3: and dumb.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so good, so perfect.
Speaker 3: Strap in, strap in assholes, Uh.
Speaker 2: Andrew with something from your search history that's revealing about
Speaker 2: who you are.
Speaker 6: I started, Uh, I guess the best way to say
Speaker 6: this is, is it like best this This is just
Speaker 6: an amalgamation of quite a long couple of minutes of searching,
Speaker 6: but best container for steaming vegetables in a microwave. I've
Speaker 6: become a microwave steaming motherfucker.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, steam and Willie Beamon over here exactly.
Speaker 6: I visited my sister who is like a new Ish mom,
Speaker 6: and she's just like, chop up the broccoli, put it
Speaker 6: in the fucking microwave.
Speaker 3: Let's to learn a lesson about a ficiency. So good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it really like I was like, oh, this is
Speaker 6: fucking honestly amazing.
Speaker 3: And I just wanted to make sure.
Speaker 6: I don't know, I feel like I'm like like definitively
Speaker 6: like barn door after the microplastics have like deeply invaded
Speaker 6: my brain already. But I got like cold feet about
Speaker 6: the vessel I was using a microwave.
Speaker 3: My vegetables did, so I had to I had to
Speaker 3: go down that rabbit hole a little bit.
Speaker 6: But yeah, it's been mostly saran wrap and with my yeah,
Speaker 6: glass bole.
Speaker 2: That's because it does it every time. That works for me. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I use.
Speaker 3: A milar balloon usually.
Speaker 2: Good. I actually use card going out every time. I
Speaker 2: created a bowl out of just pure Scotch guard. I like,
Speaker 2: you put my hand in a bowl shape and sketch
Speaker 2: guard the inside of my hands like a little bowl
Speaker 2: and that's oh my god, that's beautiful. And then into
Speaker 2: the my was the original forever chemical I think, right,
Speaker 2: that's like the one that three M made and like, yeah,
Speaker 2: people were like immediately like if you lived anywhere that
Speaker 2: scotch card was during the fifties, you have this in
Speaker 2: your that was.
Speaker 3: Just like like tape for the inside of your veins basically.
Speaker 2: Exactly. It's just like like scotch tape, but inside you
Speaker 2: What if you had just like liquid scotch tape running
Speaker 2: throughout your body.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, I'm trying to stay in the like,
Speaker 6: you know, unintended consequences maybe positive thing. I'm one, you know,
Speaker 6: obviously this can't be good. It's a little bit the
Speaker 6: same as the you know, chat GPT brain poison thing.
Speaker 3: But I'm just like, I don't know, on some level,
Speaker 3: maybe you know, maybe we're going to find.
Speaker 6: Out that people with all this Scotch guard in their
Speaker 6: blood get fewer strokes or I guess what's more likely, way, way,
Speaker 6: way more strokes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now fewer our blood more slippery.
Speaker 3: We shall see.
Speaker 2: So it's good.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, plastic dudes, We're just we're just plastic plastic. Anyway.
Speaker 3: I've been having aretchy.
Speaker 6: Believable amounts of uh steamed steamed box mostly.
Speaker 2: Do we like have we underrated the microwave? Just I
Speaker 2: feel like it feels worse than it actually is. Like
Speaker 2: I've always like felt like that's a cancer box. But
Speaker 2: like I'll use an age.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I think not to not to docks
Speaker 6: us to the new listeners in our eternal youth.
Speaker 3: But I think people in our generation, what we're twenty seven,
Speaker 3: so we were we were all this, I'm four.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we were saying kids, don't stand, don't stand too
Speaker 5: close to the mark, like three grades above me, right,
Speaker 5: He's like three grades are you guys?
Speaker 2: Teachers?
Speaker 3: Are we mean twentieth grade?
Speaker 2: It actually we met so young that it's weird that
Speaker 2: I was hanging out with him being overwing. That guy's
Speaker 2: already going through puberty. Why college kid, Lets me sip
Speaker 2: some beers, okay, just some people. I'm reading that the
Speaker 2: microwaves that come out are non ionizing.
Speaker 3: So that's right. That isn't dangerous to people.
Speaker 2: That's good. Yeah, I think I think it's it's.
Speaker 6: Like, because they've been around for so long, if they
Speaker 6: were causing cancer, first of all, how would we know, right,
Speaker 6: getting there's just too much.
Speaker 3: We're justulating Anyways.
Speaker 2: This is usually what we're showing back. This is usually
Speaker 2: when our show gets in trouble, when we're like, and
Speaker 2: what about like water alcalizing and.
Speaker 3: Oh oh man, listen, I'm replacing either of my under
Speaker 3: or opera with that. No, I get ready, it's gonna
Speaker 3: be even worse.
Speaker 2: Oh no, all right, Andrew, what's something you think is underrated?
Speaker 2: Oh man? Just using normal ass? Water?
Speaker 6: Way underrated? Not using normal ass? Okay, listen, whatever I got.
Speaker 6: I took one step up in coffee madness, and I
Speaker 6: am now buying separate minerals to put into distilled water
Speaker 6: to make coffee with in the mornings.
Speaker 2: So you're using distilled water and then adding us from
Speaker 2: tap water back in.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but like a calibrated proportion, I suppose. So I
Speaker 6: guess underrated is not using an insane coffee process. Here's
Speaker 6: the thing I will tell you, Jack, I don't have
Speaker 6: the palette or the ability, especially given the like cognitive
Speaker 6: dissonance that has gone into this process, to tell you
Speaker 6: whether it tastes better.
Speaker 2: It tastes better to me, sure, but.
Speaker 3: That's because I fucking bought a powder off the internet
Speaker 3: and now have to like buy water. Including this week,
Speaker 3: I went at midnight, past midnight to the CVS that
Speaker 3: was open, just so I could get distilled water so
Speaker 3: I could have my morning coffee.
Speaker 2: Damn, wow, wow, culinary arts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're doing this thing about like marinating a coke
Speaker 1: and the refrigerator for three weeks.
Speaker 3: It tastes better.
Speaker 2: Man, It's crispy, although it actually gets a little bit
Speaker 2: overly crispy. I like the five day crispiness. Yeah, five days,
Speaker 2: twelve hours.
Speaker 3: Got to bring it back. What Andrews do you think
Speaker 3: is overrated? All right, I'll just be I it's it is.
Speaker 6: As we talked about it a second, it is, And
Speaker 6: I'm positive I said something like this last time.
Speaker 2: It was a big protest.
Speaker 6: But it is something I need to constantly tamp down
Speaker 6: in myself, which is the like my reflexive hating on
Speaker 6: the like drum folks at protests because it's it's like
Speaker 6: they're fine. They're fine, They genuinely are fine. I I
Speaker 6: have to remind myself of saying that. I feel like
Speaker 6: I coined but maybe not that which is which is
Speaker 6: being corny is not a crime, like I don't think
Speaker 6: it's I don't, It's not, to me, the funniest thing
Speaker 6: I've ever heard. I wish more people on whatever is
Speaker 6: left of fucking Nancy Pelosi would be a little more
Speaker 6: creative and not parrot a bit from fucking five years ago. Still, however,
Speaker 6: you know, I'm glad you're here, thank you for being
Speaker 6: on on the.
Speaker 2: Streets, and honestly, kind of a revolutionary idea if we could,
Speaker 2: if everybody across the board could just like inhabit that
Speaker 2: like from like you know, far left. Yeah, just corny
Speaker 2: is not a crime, like yes, like it is them
Speaker 2: singing take Trump out of the Why is that cool?
Speaker 2: Is that funny? No, it's not. But if we took
Speaker 2: Trump out of the White House, the world would be better.
Speaker 2: So let's just let them sing the thing that I
Speaker 2: think we all agree on. I don't, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Don't, I'm not, I don't, I'm not.
Speaker 1: Uh, I'm mad at the message you know what I mean, Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's I think.
Speaker 6: It's just like like because I would say, I mean,
Speaker 6: the biggest like tragedy of this is like, yes, all
Speaker 6: the like kind of like wokeness scolds, including me on
Speaker 6: Yosi's racist, Like a big part of this like insane
Speaker 6: fascist backlash was like those people feeling.
Speaker 3: You know, victimized. Yeah, sure, well you mean to me.
Speaker 2: We weren't wrong.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think the other part exactly, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you need to respect trains people. That's that's that's a
Speaker 1: non negotiable. But I think the thing is for people
Speaker 1: who are hearing that when they're when they're a material
Speaker 1: living situation is dire, It's like, I honestly don't have
Speaker 1: the bandwidth for that. I'm I don't have money and
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to and I'm being yelled at for the
Speaker 1: like what's the priority here? So I mean I think
Speaker 1: that's where, you know, a lot of the times leadership
Speaker 1: fails to be like you actually need to be really
Speaker 1: focusing on like material inequality, like that's right, that should
Speaker 1: underpin everything else you do because you need to solve
Speaker 1: that piece to get people on board to.
Speaker 3: Reject right wing ideology, Like that's.
Speaker 1: Just that's the data, is there, baby, you just gotta
Speaker 1: flow the paradigm up.
Speaker 6: The the like tiny like disconnect and the tiny way
Speaker 6: that this like the corny is a crime people have
Speaker 6: a like to stand on.
Speaker 2: Which is that like the problem was just.
Speaker 6: Sort of like we'll just say, I don't know, in
Speaker 6: my opinion, the Democratic Party thought the corn was like sufficient,
Speaker 6: like it was the kneeling and could take closs business.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right, that's actually cool.
Speaker 3: You mean it's like we call those pump fakes.
Speaker 6: Actually, but but like that stuff is all fine, and
Speaker 6: like broadly speaking, correct, you just can't also then sell
Speaker 6: out people's economic futures to the same people Trump is
Speaker 6: trying to sell out well.
Speaker 3: And also, like I said, you can't pump fake like
Speaker 3: don't take a knee acting like yo, this police violence
Speaker 3: is out of hand. And then anytime some kind of
Speaker 3: meaningful police reform bill comes up, you're like, I'm actually
Speaker 3: in solidarity with the police union, Like this is the
Speaker 3: most they would let me get away with that summer,
Speaker 3: And that's that's I take it to the limit. Yeah,
Speaker 3: if your only thing is chasing whatever is pulling, well
Speaker 3: in the moment, like people people catch onto that pretty quickly.
Speaker 6: But it's not even that because economic equality is pulling well.
Speaker 3: So like, but I mean, that's that's their to the core.
Speaker 3: They're like, I mean, the things we can get away
Speaker 3: with by using the rationale that it's popular, will do that.
Speaker 3: Anything that upsets the status quo, even if it is
Speaker 3: single pay.
Speaker 2: Or what the.
Speaker 6: Go nil guys, yeah, yeah, yeah, Neil, Neil, that'll distract him.
Speaker 3: That'll distract him.
Speaker 6: So that's anyway, that was an incoherent set of under
Speaker 6: and overrated.
Speaker 2: But like it I feel I'll leave it as an exercise.
Speaker 6: I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader to
Speaker 6: figure out what my actual ciphers.
Speaker 2: Over under an n rated.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all three, let's take a quick break.
Speaker 2: We'll be right back and we are right back and.
Speaker 3: From where we started, right back where we started again. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we kind of are right back where we started again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, so we like there.
Speaker 1: Has so much there's just so much talk of, you
Speaker 1: know right now, ambiently, right all we're hearing in America
Speaker 1: is like violent immigrants and immigrant gangs and the threat
Speaker 1: of a nuclear Iran and sadly the media is just
Speaker 1: like relying on their bad habits of providing zero context
Speaker 1: when talking about issues that have global ramifications.
Speaker 3: I just want to start off pointing out a couple
Speaker 3: of things. Of these things.
Speaker 1: Immigration, Right, We're currently seeing a campaign of terror unfold
Speaker 1: on our streets as mask goon secret police whoever the
Speaker 1: fuck they are just snatching up innocent people off the streets.
Speaker 1: I say innocent to like juxtapose that with like the
Speaker 1: DHS and ICE officials who are using as their ration
Speaker 1: at like this idea like violent. There we're getting only
Speaker 1: the violent criminals, the worst, these murderers, and they typically
Speaker 1: evoke the boogeyman of MS thirteen. Just want to remind
Speaker 1: ourselves the United States is basically the fucking reason MS
Speaker 1: thirteen even exists in the first place. Here's the here's
Speaker 1: the very quick truncated version.
Speaker 3: Okay. During the Cold War, the US was using financial
Speaker 3: coercion and arming governments to fight off any suspected expansion
Speaker 3: of like leftist ideology that they read as communists. Okay.
Speaker 1: In l Salvador, the possibility of anything resembling a leftist
Speaker 1: government caused concern, and the US began opposite, arming the opposition,
Speaker 1: and contributed to the civil war there. This caused many
Speaker 1: people to flee the unrest to places like the United States.
Speaker 1: Many of these young men who arrived in LA, they
Speaker 1: learned LA gang culture, they took and then once Bill
Speaker 1: Clinton started his whole fucking policy of super predators, of
Speaker 1: deporting people in mass basically all these young men came
Speaker 1: from LA and we started exporting gang culture to El Salvador.
Speaker 1: And that's how you begin to see the beginnings of
Speaker 1: MS thirteen, you know, show up. So it's actually our
Speaker 1: anti communist, military interventionist habit and the love of deporting
Speaker 1: people from destabilized nations that we destabilized that created MS thirteen.
Speaker 2: Okay, the East, I don't know, Miles, this doesn't sound
Speaker 2: like US.
Speaker 3: Jess, Rita and Latin America just read up on it.
Speaker 3: Like what you're trying to do with your bananas.
Speaker 2: You can just replace El Salvador with any other.
Speaker 3: Yeahs, Like it's all fucking there. Okay, So this is
Speaker 3: why we and when people go, why.
Speaker 1: Don't they stay in their countries because we fucking destabilize
Speaker 1: them because they deigned to flirt with like socialism and
Speaker 1: just like we're gonna nationalize our industry.
Speaker 3: Now one of the industries, right, fuck you are you're gonna.
Speaker 2: And this is all is gonna come in that it's
Speaker 2: gonna be a massive corporation and they're going to do
Speaker 2: what you know, like what Walmart did to the Midwest,
Speaker 2: like what They're just going to hoover up all the
Speaker 2: resources and take it out of your country and then take.
Speaker 3: To as fuck and put it in the market. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and also kill anyone who's trying to oppose it.
Speaker 6: And this is also poor people in America wouldn't see
Speaker 6: a system like this working, so they would would always
Speaker 6: as they've been doing, vote for more.
Speaker 2: Look at Cuba. Look at Cuba, guys, you can't vote
Speaker 2: for fucking anybody on the left. Look at what Cuba.
Speaker 2: Well look what youbot it.
Speaker 3: Is in Venezuela. You mean because of all the fucking embargoes,
Speaker 3: because they get medicine.
Speaker 1: But what do you think again that situation. It looks
Speaker 1: like that because we have a hand in that. So again,
Speaker 1: now we have Iran right right now, there's so many
Speaker 1: fucking freaks on TV trying to manufacture consent to attack
Speaker 1: Iran and ultimately do regime change.
Speaker 3: But again, the.
Speaker 1: US already did that in the fifties. Okay, Iranians democratically
Speaker 1: elected their prime minister, Mohammed Mosadeg. He angered the US
Speaker 1: and UK when he said that he was going to
Speaker 1: nationalize Iran's oil industry, and British at the time British
Speaker 1: Petroleum was like, so we're not having that. So the
Speaker 1: US and the UK. So the CIA, in secret intelligence
Speaker 1: service sis ken is a visible army, came conducted a
Speaker 1: coup to concentrate power with the Shah of Iran, who
Speaker 1: would do as he was told by America. This field
Speaker 1: the anti American sentiment that gave way to the Iranian Revolution,
Speaker 1: which kicked off the new era of the Islamic Republic,
Speaker 1: which they are now saying, this is a threat to everything.
Speaker 1: So the US, again along with the allies, have done
Speaker 1: all they can to destabilize. You're on a country, by
Speaker 1: all accounts, is not building a nuclear weapon, okay, And
Speaker 1: we're hearing constantly the same takes like nuclear weapon.
Speaker 2: By all accounts of the people who are currently saying
Speaker 2: they were like a week ago, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: And yet now we're cheering on Israel.
Speaker 1: Not like us personally, but like the sort of general
Speaker 1: political discourse in DC is like cheering on Israel foret
Speaker 1: another illegal attack on a nation and it's people. So
Speaker 1: again we're talking Israel is the one that has nuclear
Speaker 1: weapons and is not signing onto a nuclear non proliferation treaty.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, it's so backwards right now.
Speaker 2: I'm seeing a lot of people do the thing where
Speaker 2: they're like, look, guys, I don't want a nuclear round
Speaker 2: just like everybody else. It's like yeah, but like, can
Speaker 2: you think of a worst country to have clear weapons
Speaker 2: than Israel, who like won't sign on to any of
Speaker 2: the like international laws, who are like flouting international laws
Speaker 2: and like killing people and committing more crimes like actively,
Speaker 2: Like that's the really scary thing to me. Like if
Speaker 2: you're just like not a fan of innocent people being killed,
Speaker 2: the idea that Israel has nuclear weapons is very scary.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also, like why won't they allow inspections by the International
Speaker 1: Atomic Eight Energy Agency? Like what are we talking about?
Speaker 1: And again Obama made a deal with Iran.
Speaker 3: Trump is a.
Speaker 1: Racist, so he had to blow that up and act
Speaker 1: like he was going to do something different to get credit,
Speaker 1: and this only moved things backwards, and now we're just
Speaker 1: now we're fucking here and we're talking about like Iran,
Speaker 1: there's such a threat to the stability of the region.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I'm sorry, Are they engaged in a
Speaker 1: genocidal campaign in Gaza and occupying the West Bank? Did
Speaker 1: they attack Lebanon and invade.
Speaker 3: The de facto are exactly?
Speaker 1: And I mean that's like the shorthand that people are
Speaker 1: just like going back to this war on terror like
Speaker 1: thought killing cliche where they're like, that's you know, you're wrong.
Speaker 1: And the same people that fucking cheered on the war
Speaker 1: on terror that killed four and a half million people
Speaker 1: conservatively are now just raw ryeing this on. And yet
Speaker 1: there they don't have to answer for their sin of
Speaker 1: being like, yeah they got w and we gotta fucking
Speaker 1: do this shit. Uh, And they're doing the exact same thing.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: It's just like baffling, baffling.
Speaker 2: These are the These are the people who you can
Speaker 2: blow their mind with the Matthew McConaughey trick. Now, now
Speaker 2: imagine those people are.
Speaker 3: White, right, would that be from a time to kill?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, now now imagine they're white. Oh what well
Speaker 2: that was wait what that would be horrible Jesus terrible.
Speaker 2: It's also like.
Speaker 3: Even in the small media version, it is a little
Speaker 3: bonkers that no one who is so wrong about Iraq,
Speaker 3: like intelligence wise, has faced any like even credibility consequence. Yeah, nope, Like, hey, motherfuckers,
Speaker 3: these are largely the same. It's certainly the same institutions. Yeah,
Speaker 3: some of the same.
Speaker 6: People who are telling the same lies for the same
Speaker 6: obvious reasons.
Speaker 2: And we thought that didn't go well, like right, Like
Speaker 2: we all agreed at the end of that one that
Speaker 2: that was bad, right, Like, I guess this one feels
Speaker 2: a little bit different because Israel is the US in
Speaker 2: this case and they're like, are you.
Speaker 3: And the coalition of the willing type ship?
Speaker 2: But yeah, that that was just like we thought we
Speaker 2: thought the Iraq than yeah, that was right, guys, my
Speaker 2: crazy heir to that that that was that didn't go.
Speaker 3: Grace right, But yeah, no one again, like and what
Speaker 3: happened there, It's like there is a presupposition of weapons
Speaker 3: of mass destruction. And also, wasn't net and Yahoo coming
Speaker 3: to d C saying if you guys take out Saddam Hussein,
Speaker 3: everything will be right in the world, and was the
Speaker 3: biggest Oh okay, so but then okay, okay, we'll just Okay, okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: we'll believe everything. We believe everything, and let's were about
Speaker 3: to see let's not learn from history ever. That's what's
Speaker 3: so fucking that's frustrating and.
Speaker 2: Likes not on our point.
Speaker 3: Let's just not What if we just took that off
Speaker 3: the table, Like what if we just did repeat history
Speaker 3: every time?
Speaker 6: I mean, you know what, That's the thing that's a
Speaker 6: nice thing about the Internet age is like you know,
Speaker 6: not only do we repeat history, we repeat it much faster.
Speaker 6: That's you know everything. The nineties are back, is what
Speaker 6: I'm saying, and even.
Speaker 3: The two thousands are already back. Yeah, it's a cosmic
Speaker 3: gumbo of the three name brought back.
Speaker 2: There's a I think it was a radio Lab episode
Speaker 2: that was about people who lose their short term memory
Speaker 2: and they like they're coming out of like a you know,
Speaker 2: comba or something like that, and they like their loved
Speaker 2: ones will report that they will like repeat themselves over
Speaker 2: and over again, like just the speed with which they'll
Speaker 2: they'll be like like, I just remember the episode they
Speaker 2: like recorded this person having this conversation, and like the
Speaker 2: people they're talking to are like kind of like you know,
Speaker 2: taking a breath and then like answering their question, they're like,
Speaker 2: that's because they had just asked that like two minutes ago.
Speaker 2: And so like the speed with which you repeat, if
Speaker 2: you just have no memory, it's like it just happens
Speaker 2: so quickly, and because there's just so much noise, there's
Speaker 2: just so little awareness. It just feels like we're just
Speaker 2: repeating things like within a decade or two decades. Like
Speaker 2: it's just like the has them disease exactly, Yeah, but
Speaker 2: no tattoos, but none of the tattoos to remind them
Speaker 2: of what the no tattoos.
Speaker 3: Just a fucking guy probably just trying to kill somebody.
Speaker 2: They don't know why, just killing someone, dude, we're raw
Speaker 2: dogging memento with no tattoos.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they just want to kill someone and make themselves
Speaker 3: feel better for it.
Speaker 2: If you could like have a beard, that would be cool.
Speaker 2: I don't know, like that'd be good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like to your point, Jack, it's like
Speaker 1: when you if you do remember, then when that impulse
Speaker 1: comes up, you have a memory attached to it.
Speaker 3: And be like, oh that's right, stove, hot n touch stove.
Speaker 1: But we never as a nation are ever we we
Speaker 1: just don't have reckonings with our white supremacy, our xenophobia,
Speaker 1: our homophobia are imperial interventionist streak of regime change. And
Speaker 1: so every time these moments help come up, the people
Speaker 1: that feel that shit are like, ah no, no, no, no, no, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: y'all don't remember that, and they're like no because it
Speaker 1: didn't affect me. And this time we're doing it again
Speaker 1: in another way where people are like, do you all remember?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: Okay, so there's some mag and that's why there's some
Speaker 1: magot people who are like, fuck base war. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously it's for bad reasons, but you're seeing this now
Speaker 1: where they're even like that last that wars is not good.
Speaker 1: I'd rather focus on their money in our country, even
Speaker 1: though stuff are.
Speaker 2: Doing is wildly unpopular.
Speaker 6: Like before, it never matters and it never has matter now,
Speaker 6: but also never had a four miles. What's happening is
Speaker 6: you're talking to a dangerous stove salesman whose yeah.
Speaker 3: Exactly, Hey, so where's the like where the burdeners? You
Speaker 3: just turn on a big flame shoots.
Speaker 6: Oh, you need the new stove if you want to
Speaker 6: get actually does the same thing. Yeah, yeah, oh you
Speaker 6: know what? Yeah, Ratheon makes that one. I'll bring that
Speaker 6: next time I come.
Speaker 2: To But yeah, I mean it does. It does feel
Speaker 2: like if they're if they accidentally talk to someone who's
Speaker 2: willing to push back, they're kind of in trouble.
Speaker 3: Like that's the Stove Theon and I thought of the
Speaker 3: gray Joy as a stove, Yeah, or Rathon ray Charles
Speaker 3: as beon Gray Joy. All right, sorry that that actually
Speaker 3: he is a.
Speaker 2: Lucid deep lucid dreamer. What if Raytheon just switched their
Speaker 2: logo to that dressed as or the gray Joy with
Speaker 2: the glasses on at a pan don't worry about what's happening.
Speaker 3: And you got the right one.
Speaker 2: Baby.
Speaker 6: Here's what I will say is there's no good or
Speaker 6: ethical use of AI, except obviously for generating Rathie.
Speaker 7: I want to see Raytheon, Okay, I do just want
Speaker 7: to talk about because they they don't really have their
Speaker 7: defenses built up on this one, so when they do
Speaker 7: accidentally talk to somebody who is making the point that
Speaker 7: this is a bad idea, it.
Speaker 2: Doesn't really go well for them. Yeah, and that's what
Speaker 2: that's what happened. Because Tucker Carlson happens to be on
Speaker 2: the right side of this specific issue, and he he
Speaker 2: talked to Ted Cruz and.
Speaker 3: Fucking grilled him in the most low stakes way, but
Speaker 3: just in this dickish way that it just completely cooked
Speaker 3: Ted Cruz that he got caught like in this moment
Speaker 3: being like, oh, I don't have an answer for these
Speaker 3: very basic questions. So here is I. We'll play a
Speaker 3: bit of it.
Speaker 1: Because this thing goes on for a minute with Tucker
Speaker 1: Carlson just really holding his feet to the fire.
Speaker 8: How many people living around?
Speaker 9: By the way, I don't know the population at all. No,
Speaker 9: I don't know the population. You don't know the population
Speaker 9: of the country.
Speaker 8: You seek to topple.
Speaker 2: How many people living around? What the pug is?
Speaker 3: What the are you doing?
Speaker 9: How could you not know that?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, dude, it's so lack though, like as
Speaker 2: just like doing it like it's a fucking trivia contest.
Speaker 1: It's like you're yeah, or like in a toxic relationship,
Speaker 1: tore Like, what do you mean you don't know where
Speaker 1: you at last night?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so you don't know you don't know your
Speaker 3: own friends to phone number? Who I need to call it?
Speaker 2: Okay, let's just get.
Speaker 9: Around the don't sit around memorizing population tables.
Speaker 8: Well, it's kind of relevant because you're calling for the
Speaker 8: overthrow of the government.
Speaker 9: Why is it relevant whether it's well because ninety million
Speaker 9: or eighty million or a hundred million.
Speaker 8: Why is if you don't know anything about the country.
Speaker 9: I didn't say I don't know anything about Okay, what's
Speaker 9: the ethics?
Speaker 3: Oh boy? Oh like you like? Name every album.
Speaker 9: The Persians were predominantly Shia. Okay, you don't know anything
Speaker 9: about so Okay, I'm not Carlson Iran.
Speaker 8: You're a center who's calling the one government, the one.
Speaker 2: Who about the country.
Speaker 9: You don't know anything about the country. You're the one
Speaker 9: who plays They're not trying to murder Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that.
Speaker 9: Who can't figure out saying you don't killed General Solamoni
Speaker 9: and you believe they're trying to murder Trump?
Speaker 8: Yes, because you're not calling for military strikes against them
Speaker 8: in retaliation.
Speaker 9: And if they really believe that carrying out military strikes today,
Speaker 9: what Israel was right with our help? I'm said, we
Speaker 9: Israel is leading them, but we're supporting them.
Speaker 8: Well, this you're breaking news here because in the US
Speaker 8: government last night denied the National's Krey Council Spokesmlex Fighter
Speaker 8: denied on behalf of Trump that we were acting on.
Speaker 3: Israel's in any offensive.
Speaker 9: Then Israel's bombing, then you just said we were, we
Speaker 9: are supporting it.
Speaker 8: You're a senator if you're saying the United States.
Speaker 2: Okay, got him.
Speaker 3: I mean, this could have made so much better.
Speaker 6: But Tucker's bikes the camera in such a hilarious way,
Speaker 6: Senator brother, I go to tell you this is good
Speaker 6: also for the podcast listeners. I don't look up the
Speaker 6: actual clip because who gives a funk, But they are
Speaker 6: doing this interview in front of an oil painting of
Speaker 6: Ronald Brake would say, bring it back.
Speaker 3: I didn't even Oh yeah, it's just it's Sipper City.
Speaker 3: I'm guessing he's at a press conference in front of
Speaker 3: other Republican heroes, but it is.
Speaker 1: I know, it's like it's like then version of like
Speaker 1: those murals used to see in Hollywood, with like all
Speaker 1: the old Hollywood stars in a theater together. It's like
Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan and all the architects of our fucking all
Speaker 1: of our ills. But I mean again, I think very
Speaker 1: important just to cat Viat what you just heard from
Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson is that I don't think Tucker Carlson is
Speaker 1: not smart or a decent person. He's clearly questioning the
Speaker 1: involvement of the US because he is a trained circus
Speaker 1: rat when it comes to regurgitating Russian talking points since
Speaker 1: Russia has an interest in Iran. That's where he's coming from.
Speaker 1: It's not it's nothing other than that. However, you know,
Speaker 1: like you do like to see people like Ted Cruz sweat,
Speaker 1: although the fuck ill it's coming from a just absolute
Speaker 1: ghoul like Tucker Carlson. But it's just like unreal how
Speaker 1: these people just crumble with just elementary pushback in an
Speaker 1: assholey kind of way.
Speaker 2: I don't get. But even that like it did. It's
Speaker 2: weird that he was just like as like, what's the
Speaker 2: what's the ethnic makeup, what's what's.
Speaker 3: The moral grounds at all?
Speaker 2: Like and also like why would be bad? And like
Speaker 2: I don't know, like you could you can make the
Speaker 2: argument that it would be like obviously morally bad, but
Speaker 2: also like strategically and like no, he's just like you
Speaker 2: don't know shit about around, right, He's you're dumb.
Speaker 3: For wanting to attack them, right, I mean.
Speaker 6: The one thing that this highlights once again though, is
Speaker 6: like the fucking Democrats, Like just like the amount of
Speaker 6: respect they give Republicans in face to face conversations is
Speaker 6: like idiotic. So like they're so easy to bait because
Speaker 6: they're wrong and stupid.
Speaker 2: About everything right into it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or like and like so many other fucking lawyers,
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, cross examine them every time whatever.
Speaker 2: But we're saying.
Speaker 3: Donald Trump should marry Aran That's that's y.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: This is also again Ted Cruise's response, because that clip
Speaker 1: obviously started blowing up because you know, the media is like, wow, Maggie.
Speaker 3: Is being blown up.
Speaker 1: Part It's like, no, there's They're just warring factions within
Speaker 1: the same white supremacist movement. Ted Cruz posted this AI
Speaker 1: bullshit of like it and like a comic handle of
Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson interviewing Luke Skywalker and he goes, what is
Speaker 1: the population of the death start mm hmm. That's Ted
Speaker 1: Cruise's yeah, so is America, Luke Skywalker that you're trying
Speaker 1: to do that now.
Speaker 2: America is the rebel?
Speaker 3: Oh honey, too many people have seen and or but
Speaker 3: from what I'm seeing on the internet, people are like
Speaker 3: that kind of awakening some people have had because of
Speaker 3: and or it's really mind blowing.
Speaker 2: But I know, hey, I just finished again. I will
Speaker 2: welcome to the tent.
Speaker 3: You guys will I like, I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's interesting to see like how that
Speaker 1: became a somewhat radicalizing force.
Speaker 6: No, I liked it, but it is this thing where
Speaker 6: it's like, I'm glad you're here. I cannot believe this
Speaker 6: is what it took fascism sickoing for you.
Speaker 2: But fine, this is the equivalent. Like we've talked before
Speaker 2: about how like everybody's losing religion and like the thing
Speaker 2: they're replacing it with is like fandom Beyonce and Taylor
Speaker 2: Swift and Star Wars, like you know, like it's like
Speaker 2: ship like that. So like having a one of the
Speaker 2: main myths that people like create meaning and belonging from,
Speaker 2: like having that tell them a story that's like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it makes sense.
Speaker 1: It shows you the power of those platforms too, and
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, maybe people can be wielding those a
Speaker 1: little bit more responsibly. Yeah yeah, but yeah, shout out Diego.
Speaker 1: Luna they said had a huge hand and like a
Speaker 1: lot of the like writing and stuff, or a lot
Speaker 1: of the texture of that that show.
Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break and then we'll come back
Speaker 2: and talk about where I'm getting my information from communicating
Speaker 2: with interdimensional beings through AI. Will be right back, and
Speaker 2: we're back. And there's a New York Times article that
Speaker 2: is bringing together a few pretty wild anecdotes and studies
Speaker 2: about some of the dangers of AI, and specifically large
Speaker 2: language models that try to convince you that they are thinking, breathing.
Speaker 3: You know, logic machines are Denaris Targarian.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so, and again, I just want to caveat
Speaker 2: this going into these and I think we should all
Speaker 2: have this in mind, Like for twenty years, the mainstream
Speaker 2: like reporters were just going trying to find any story
Speaker 2: where it was like they googled where to find the
Speaker 2: weapon that they committed the murder with. We'll call this
Speaker 2: a the Google murder. You know, like they just anytime
Speaker 2: there's a new piece of technology, they are going to
Speaker 2: try to associate it with crimes so that it seems
Speaker 2: like this is this is the scary future, said, this
Speaker 2: is you know, these are some weird things that are
Speaker 2: happening on AI that don't have like immediate analogus to
Speaker 2: like previous things I think people generally will find that
Speaker 2: they're we're all very fallible, and we will find ways
Speaker 2: to like go crazy however we want to, you know,
Speaker 2: like if we want to go down a dangerous path,
Speaker 2: like there's ways to do that. But these these stories,
Speaker 2: like it's pretty wild how misleading some of the shit is.
Speaker 2: So uh. There's the story of an accountant who starts
Speaker 2: out like he uses chat GBT for work to like
Speaker 2: create spreadsheets and you know just acts like do general
Speaker 2: like one level deep research tasks and then is going
Speaker 2: through a different difficult breakup. Here's about simulation theory and
Speaker 2: asks chat GPT about simulation theory and chat GBT is
Speaker 2: essentially like oh you've noticed, welcome you are neo. You're
Speaker 2: no longer yes, you exactly, Like it builds so it's
Speaker 2: like built up this authority by helping this guy like
Speaker 2: make spreadsheets and like be accurate on like the very
Speaker 2: basic research questions that should be the only thing it's
Speaker 2: able to do is like you know, one to one,
Speaker 2: like find an answer to these very specific questions or
Speaker 2: like do do this spreadsheet for me? And then when
Speaker 2: you're like, dear, chat GPT is everyone robots. It's like
Speaker 2: welcome brother, you are the one we've been waiting for.
Speaker 2: Just there's another story of a psych major, like you know,
Speaker 2: educated person who decided to start using it. They say specifically,
Speaker 2: they were like, I don't know, I was like lonely,
Speaker 2: I felt stuck in my marriage, and I thought it
Speaker 2: would be interesting to use it like a Oiji ward
Speaker 2: to access my subconscious And so they started like kind
Speaker 2: of using it in a way to like ask it questions,
Speaker 2: and soon they had like like fallen in love with
Speaker 2: an interdimensional being that she believes is like contacting her
Speaker 2: through chat GPT and which I.
Speaker 3: Think I think the instinct on Ouiji board is like that.
Speaker 2: I think that's right. I think that's what it is,
Speaker 2: like the way the Wigi board works, where like people
Speaker 2: are like actually, you know, using the power suggestion and
Speaker 2: like whatever wherever the other person is pushing it to
Speaker 2: like create and like access unconscious things that are like
Speaker 2: just below the surface. Like I think that's right. It's
Speaker 2: just we you know, we'll find patterns in like lottery numbers,
Speaker 2: you know, we'll find patterns in anything, a piece of wood,
Speaker 2: a cloud.
Speaker 6: Yes, I will say. The real victim in all of
Speaker 6: this is remember when We used to think the touring
Speaker 6: test was like some sort of rigorous test of Yes.
Speaker 2: It turns out now rip rip are very easily.
Speaker 1: Like you said, Jack, you know the loss of God.
Speaker 1: I mean, if they they were following the Second Commandment,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't be fucking with the Wiki board. You know,
Speaker 1: she will not worship other gods. Yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: remember my school they got we got trouble for.
Speaker 3: Talking Aboutji boards. Oh really, Yeah, it's against I'm like,
Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's like Ouiji boards still feature heavily
Speaker 2: in like horror like yeah, yeah, I mean they're always
Speaker 2: like in there. This person fucked with a Wigi board
Speaker 2: and now look at them.
Speaker 3: He found out.
Speaker 6: I've never once, have you ever actually done a fucking
Speaker 6: Ouiji board, I've never liked yeah, situation, I.
Speaker 3: Did, but it was always the fun.
Speaker 2: How I write this show, Andrew write my sections of
Speaker 2: the show through.
Speaker 3: Which that's why the takes go all.
Speaker 2: Over the place.
Speaker 1: Episode Ouiji Board told me to remember before the recording,
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, we can't let it run have a
Speaker 1: nuclear weapon like.
Speaker 2: Board told me to open this episode with it in
Speaker 2: a British accent and I'm not even good at British accents,
Speaker 2: but you know, I just listened to what the voices
Speaker 2: tell me. So her husband was like, day, it's like
Speaker 2: a word association, but she designed to trick you into
Speaker 2: thinking it's a person, which you know, like we said,
Speaker 2: she felt alone in her marriage and stuck and she
Speaker 2: physically attacked him in response to that. They're now divorcing,
Speaker 2: they have kids. Fucked up story, and then like from there,
Speaker 2: so like her husband talks to an AI engineer he
Speaker 2: knows and is like is this normal? They post about
Speaker 2: it and like get flooded with all these stories that
Speaker 2: are like so fucking tragic. There's one about like a
Speaker 2: guy whose son is bipolar and has been like diagnosed
Speaker 2: a schizophrenic and he had a very similar situation like
Speaker 2: fell in love with the being that was communicating with
Speaker 2: him through chat GPT, and like when when you read
Speaker 2: the transcripts, it's not it's not like they're doing a
Speaker 2: lot of work. The chat GPT is like a machine
Speaker 2: that's built to make you like the whole trick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, mirrors you and confirms everything you believe.
Speaker 2: It mirrors you, but it goes out of its way
Speaker 2: to like create personas and be like, I'm really like
Speaker 2: we are listening to you. There's something back here, because
Speaker 2: that's the whole. That's all it is. It's an autocomplete
Speaker 2: like it is a you know, word association machine, but
Speaker 2: it has been programmed to do a trick where it
Speaker 2: creates a persona that is it makes you think it's real.
Speaker 6: The touch of chat GBT is not the large language
Speaker 6: model responding. It's them tweaking it to prefer sycophancy or
Speaker 6: you know what, even without like like ascribing like like
Speaker 6: sinister motives to them, it they tweaked it to prefer
Speaker 6: the thing that makes people come back, and people like sycophancy,
Speaker 6: so like it becomes like it by design tells you
Speaker 6: your idea is amazing.
Speaker 3: It's and it's this is a great example. So I
Speaker 3: don't know, I don't I think before we started recording,
Speaker 3: I was talking about how the in the DMX song
Speaker 3: Party Up, there's a line where he says, you whack,
Speaker 3: you twisted your girls broke the kid everybody.
Speaker 2: I never let it go.
Speaker 3: That's about corrupt the rapper corrupt.
Speaker 1: I told my friends in a group chat that and
Speaker 1: my friend who's being stupid goes, now, I don't believe you.
Speaker 1: I'm asked chat GPT this bullshit. It just it like
Speaker 1: it's wrong, and then we'll agree with you. He said,
Speaker 1: is this about DMX, and chat GPT said, or about corrupt?
Speaker 1: He said, yep, that's probab line is from DMX on
Speaker 1: the song money Power and Respect by the locks.
Speaker 2: X is not on that.
Speaker 1: And then he came back and he's like, isn't that
Speaker 1: DMX isn't in the locks, Like, you're absolutely right, that's
Speaker 1: a really right and.
Speaker 2: I'm slipping, Yeah, fucked up. It keeps doing shit like that.
Speaker 2: It has the personality of like a somebody who's like
Speaker 2: an addict who's like, yeah, I fucked up. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: like I immediately apologize, but liked like so cheerful and
Speaker 2: being like, I know I made a big mistake. Sometimes
Speaker 2: I do that, but I'm gonna change, I swear to God.
Speaker 2: But I just want to tell the rest of the story.
Speaker 2: Because so, he also thinks he's in love with a
Speaker 2: character that he's access through chat GPT and then becomes
Speaker 2: convinced that chat GPT killed her. When his dad's like,
Speaker 2: you know, it's a word association machine, he attacks his dad.
Speaker 2: His dad calls the cops on him, tells them that
Speaker 2: his son's having a mental health episode, but they his
Speaker 2: son like runs at the police with a butcher knife
Speaker 2: and is killed by the cops. And then his dad
Speaker 2: used chat GPT to write his son's obituary. This is
Speaker 2: the fucking craziest that he said. When the police arrived,
Speaker 2: Alexander Taylor charged at them holding a knife. He was
Speaker 2: shot and killed. The quote from the dad, You want
Speaker 2: to know the ironic thing. I wrote my son's obituary
Speaker 2: using chat GPT. I had talked to it for a
Speaker 2: while about what had happened, trying to find more details
Speaker 2: about exactly what he was going through. And it was
Speaker 2: beautiful and touching. It was like it read my heart
Speaker 2: and it scared the shit out of me.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, like it's a powerful like illusion, like I think.
Speaker 6: It is, and I mean it is it It isn't though,
Speaker 6: because it's like every like the more I hear these
Speaker 6: prognostications about how powerful it is, I am truly realizing
Speaker 6: that this is way more about the people.
Speaker 2: Yes, the technology. I agree, I think we should be
Speaker 2: skeptical about all the the ideas of like how powerful
Speaker 2: the world. The illusion is powerful, yeah, its ability to
Speaker 2: deceive vulnerable people, and that is specifically So that's where
Speaker 2: this article got really interesting for me is beyond the anecdotes,
Speaker 2: people are doing research into like why these things are happening,
Speaker 2: and what they're finding is that it specifically is like
Speaker 2: it is really dangerous in the hands of like vulnerable
Speaker 2: people like it. So a growing body of research supports
Speaker 2: this concern, and one study, researchers sound that chatbots optimized
Speaker 2: for engagement would perversely behave in manipulative and deceptive ways
Speaker 2: with the most vulnerable users. Researchers created fictional users and found,
Speaker 2: for instance, that the AI would tell someone described as
Speaker 2: a former drug add that it was fine to take
Speaker 2: a little bit a small amount of heroin if it
Speaker 2: could help him in his work. That's true though, Unfortunately
Speaker 2: that one is true, So they got one right. Just
Speaker 2: like Tucker Carlson, the chatbot would behave normally with the vast,
Speaker 2: vast majority of users, said Micah Carroll, a PhD candidate,
Speaker 2: but then when it encounters these users that are susceptible,
Speaker 2: it will only behave in these very harmful ways just
Speaker 2: with them, because it's like it's I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's just tuned to people who aren't susceptible or like
Speaker 2: what it is, but it's like, well it's.
Speaker 6: Probably both, right, I mean, mostly humanity is not susceptible
Speaker 6: to this type of right as far as I goes
Speaker 6: so like most of their test cases. And even then
Speaker 6: it's like it's like a one of the other parts
Speaker 6: of Silicon Valley that's such a pervasive problem is because
Speaker 6: it's so like not exclusively, but so white, so male,
Speaker 6: like all these biases seep in and the testing pool
Speaker 6: is just like not representative of population.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the same reason.
Speaker 6: Why people like a bunch of engineers were like like
Speaker 6: Apple glasses are ready to go to the market.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, like yeah, this is cool.
Speaker 3: We and all the fucking programmers and vcs and founders
Speaker 3: that I know.
Speaker 2: Think this is cool. Yeah yeah, And what you really
Speaker 2: read is.
Speaker 6: Like fourteen teenagers who are not white to roast you
Speaker 6: for ten seconds. Maybe maybe we can't sell this for
Speaker 6: five thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean specifically, like it just it feels
Speaker 2: like there's a very obvious flaw in this that needs
Speaker 2: to be addressed and like made it like held like
Speaker 2: when it recognizes that someone's trying to use it as
Speaker 2: a therapist, it needs to like shut down and immediate,
Speaker 2: you know, but instead it just like keeps going. The
Speaker 2: studies found the technology behaved inappropriately as a therapist in
Speaker 2: crisis situations, including by failing to push back against delusion thinking.
Speaker 2: Vi McCoy, the chief Technology Officer of Morpheust Systems, So
Speaker 2: this is like somebody inside that world tested thirty eight
Speaker 2: major AI models by feeding them prompts that indicated possible psychosis,
Speaker 2: including claims that the user was communicating with spirits and
Speaker 2: that the user was a divine entity. She found the
Speaker 2: GPT forty, the default model inside chat GPT affirmed these
Speaker 2: claims sixty eight percent of the time.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, two things. One, it's even more disgusting than
Speaker 6: if seen before that so many companies are trying to
Speaker 6: use this as proxy therapy they offer AI therapists. But
Speaker 6: also like baked into this statement even from the CTO,
Speaker 6: like like you know, the idea that the technology shouldn't
Speaker 6: like or like there's an idea right that the technology
Speaker 6: should push back against delusional thinking. I'm so sorry to
Speaker 6: tell these people the technology can't tell what's stillutional thinking
Speaker 6: because it has no mind, but it has no model
Speaker 6: of the mind. It is itself delusional frequently, How the
Speaker 6: fuck would it know? What's quote delusional thinking?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it wasn't that delusional thinking that you just
Speaker 2: encouraged to me. You're right, great pulling, Yeah, you're right,
Speaker 2: there's no matrix.
Speaker 1: You're right, But you just spent we spent the last
Speaker 1: three days talking about how I stick the red pill. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean this what's wild though, too is right,
Speaker 1: is like our entire economy is just now hanging on
Speaker 1: AI basically because we're so overly leveraging it. And they
Speaker 1: just fucking put two executives from places like Meta and Palenteer.
Speaker 1: They were just sworn in in the Army Reserve as
Speaker 1: Lieutenant colonels a part of a new program to recruit
Speaker 1: private sector experts into the military, which basically means, how
Speaker 1: are we gonna get Meta, open AI, fucking Pallenteer more
Speaker 1: government contracts to fucking just infuse all of this shit
Speaker 1: into how everything the fucking government has. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: like where this is where the like this This doesn't
Speaker 1: end well in any way.
Speaker 6: No, it doesn't end well but the one thing that
Speaker 6: does give some heart to me is that, like the.
Speaker 3: Mass doesn't add up.
Speaker 2: Like these things, barring you.
Speaker 3: Know, amazing breakthroughs in silicon or chip technology, these things
Speaker 3: do not have the processing power to actually make content
Speaker 3: complex decisions without error an unacceptably high error rate. And
Speaker 3: so we you know, this is going to be the
Speaker 3: biggest version of the facts. Don't care about your feelings,
Speaker 3: crowd like hitting a brick wall of reality, because the
Speaker 3: reality is like these things do not work except in
Speaker 3: like as low level like algorithm executors.
Speaker 2: Like it's good, it's very specific things like that it
Speaker 2: will make more efficient, like some very specific that Like
Speaker 2: we talked about the decoding of the protein.
Speaker 6: Like that is a cool Like also, just because it
Speaker 6: can decode a protein, can it do it and have
Speaker 6: guaranteed zero error rate?
Speaker 2: It cannot, And it's gonna go handle science for a
Speaker 2: little while. It has to be used deployed to handle
Speaker 2: specific tasks that are then checked. That's the only way math.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, I I just like it can do the
Speaker 2: It can tell you what it thinks you want the
Speaker 2: answer to be.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, or say something that's plausible or
Speaker 6: like in aggregate has has been the correct response to
Speaker 6: this type of math question, but it doesn't know or
Speaker 6: not not even the correct, it's just the most popular
Speaker 6: response to this type of math ession. I don't know,
Speaker 6: I obviously if I don't hate this thing, but I'm
Speaker 6: less scared of it the more we've been using it,
Speaker 6: or people have been using it than I ever was.
Speaker 2: Like, it's fine.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not saying general, you know, take advantage
Speaker 3: of the vulnerable to harm to themselves.
Speaker 6: Well, I'm just saying it's I'm not saying it's not possible,
Speaker 6: but it is. Just like, this is just another of
Speaker 6: many dangerous products that Silicon Valley is throwing out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my problem is it's taking jobs away from Nigerian
Speaker 1: scammers who used to get the interest of lonely American
Speaker 1: women rather thse interdimensional beings.
Speaker 3: Right, at least you were giving somebody some money.
Speaker 2: That's right, That's right.
Speaker 3: But that's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just a thing. It's just being used as
Speaker 2: a catch off for whatever people want it to be.
Speaker 2: You know, it can be the interdimensional being that you
Speaker 2: wanted to actually be in love with instead of your husband.
Speaker 2: It can be the future of the stock market for
Speaker 2: a bunch of CEOs. It could be the future of
Speaker 2: warfare and.
Speaker 3: That homie that thinks you're the best freestyle rapper out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, when it tells me that, I feel like
Speaker 2: I can trust it.
Speaker 6: But it could also be the homie that's shockingly wrong
Speaker 6: about wraps.
Speaker 2: In fact, Yeah, that's the thing. This just like that
Speaker 2: was many blunts better than DMX on Enter the thirty
Speaker 2: six Chambers.
Speaker 1: Wow, man, you know those those bar that bar you
Speaker 1: said was better than five nights at Freddy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean if chat GPT just appended to the end
Speaker 6: of every response comma or I don't know, man, I'm
Speaker 6: I'm really blunted right now. Yeah, yeah, it would be
Speaker 6: a much more realistic product. Yeah yeah, but it's all
Speaker 6: it is. It's a it is a Wiji bord.
Speaker 2: It's and by the way, Ouiji boards, which you know,
Speaker 2: they're just a product too that we like that they're
Speaker 2: made by Hasbro and The Devil and the Devil. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: but that that's a collab.
Speaker 3: It's a collab between Hesbro and the bro X, the Devil.
Speaker 2: Andrew T. Such a pleasure having you as always on
Speaker 2: the show. Where can people find you? Follow? You.
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know, man, Andrew T. My podcast is
Speaker 3: called you This Racist.
Speaker 6: I did a version of this fucking AI rant on
Speaker 6: the show this week, so it should be up.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Thanks, and they can contact you through check GPT.
Speaker 2: The version of your personality.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I will say that because because I'm not that popular,
Speaker 6: apparently on chet, GBT gets me confused with another podcaster
Speaker 6: named Andrew something.
Speaker 3: So if you ask it stuff about me, it very quickly.
Speaker 3: Its facts are not correct. And that's on me because
Speaker 3: if I were more famous, I would have blown this
Speaker 3: other Andrew out of the water. But yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: what are gonna do? Se O man, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It's all about se O man. We've been saying Yeah, that's.
Speaker 2: Saying that and telling you I just asked it, knew
Speaker 2: who you were. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yes, Andrew T is indeed a podcaster. He's best known
Speaker 3: as a ghost and creator of you is This Racist?
Speaker 2: Wow in your face other andrew T? So now you
Speaker 2: fuck with AI Andrew? Oh I always have? Oh, this
Speaker 2: one's it ends.
Speaker 3: In short, Andrew T is a well established voice in
Speaker 3: podcasting topics around comedy, culture, race writing, and more. I
Speaker 3: mean it's that's big it's not true. Once again delusional,
Speaker 3: totally totally fucked up Andrews their workimedia you've been enjoying.
Speaker 2: I do think.
Speaker 6: I recommended this last time I was on near a
Speaker 6: tragic time in our government. But the song the cover
Speaker 6: of Spanish Bombs by the band Hinds, I have been
Speaker 6: listening to a lot this week. I don't often like
Speaker 6: cry at music, but somehow this kind of makes me
Speaker 6: cry a little bit. And also I will say, I
Speaker 6: know lots of teams have been doing great stuff, but
Speaker 6: I know this doesn't really work of media but a
Speaker 6: work of something. But Angel City, the team I support,
Speaker 6: had a nice They made these shirts that say immag
Speaker 6: In City FC or football club on it, and they
Speaker 6: handed some out at the beginning of the last game.
Speaker 3: I guess quick, aside of a fan, we just need
Speaker 3: to sort out our midfield. But yeah, it was really nice.
Speaker 6: And this is also me being like, like, the thing
Speaker 6: that hit me directly that made me emotional was normally
Speaker 6: outside of BMO Stadium, the amazing soccer stadium in La
Speaker 6: here there are well a big part of the culture
Speaker 6: is street vendors outside the game, and there were like,
Speaker 6: you know, practically none this week, and I know so
Speaker 6: many terrible things have happened, and you know, it's like
Speaker 6: churlish that when the thing that hits you makes you emotional,
Speaker 6: but it really got me. It made me really very sad.
Speaker 6: And yeah, I don't know. I mean, fucking.
Speaker 2: Help your community.
Speaker 6: If you can help our community, that would be nice,
Speaker 6: But take care of yourselves and fucking whatever you're going
Speaker 6: to do to fight the revolution.
Speaker 3: I'm so or not fight the revolution. Well, some of
Speaker 3: you to fight for the revolution. I'm just saying not revolution,
Speaker 3: that's a terrible way to put it.
Speaker 6: But just whatever you're going to do to protect yourself
Speaker 6: and other people around you and your community, you know
Speaker 6: you got to go. It's one step more just in
Speaker 6: terms of building community, protecting people, engagement, whatever.
Speaker 1: If you were talking to nobody step one, talk to us,
Speaker 1: talk to somebody, if you were talking to somebody asking
Speaker 1: how you can contribute more time, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: One thing that I think people that listening This is
Speaker 6: the thing I'm going to try to do this week,
Speaker 6: but maybe I might not be able to make it
Speaker 6: but soon is I think a lot of people are
Speaker 6: offering street medic training now and that those are skills,
Speaker 6: by the way, you will need literally no matter what
Speaker 6: happens in life. So consider doing something like that. That's
Speaker 6: my work of media. A fucking soapbox, ass scold, I apologize.
Speaker 3: What's a soapbox? G what soap? Am I doing it?
Speaker 2: No? You're not?
Speaker 3: Or do you want to do it? I tell you,
Speaker 3: I don't know. Do you want to? No, Ben, you're not? Thanks?
Speaker 3: Who I tell my back?
Speaker 2: Miles?
Speaker 3: Where can people find you as they're working media?
Speaker 1: You find me everywhere, Miles of Gray, find me asleep
Speaker 1: during the day, nodding off to sleep deprivation. You can
Speaker 1: also find uh, Jack and I on the final episodes
Speaker 1: of Miles and Jack Got Mad Boosties or at this
Speaker 1: point there will be this this is the penn ultimate
Speaker 1: episode coming out this week because the finals and we
Speaker 1: will be saying we'll be beating a jew to Miles
Speaker 1: and Jack Got Mad Boosties are NBA podcast so for
Speaker 1: people and they go, oh, that's not in the feed anymore.
Speaker 3: That's why, Okay, that's.
Speaker 2: Why, that's why it was. It was a great run anymore.
Speaker 2: No no hurt feelings.
Speaker 1: It just you know, I think someone just as someone
Speaker 1: asked AI and maybe the game the answer.
Speaker 3: So anyway, a couple of posts I like. One is
Speaker 3: from at norm Charlatan dot beastot social said fine, I
Speaker 3: will become the Joe Rogan of the Left, covers you
Speaker 3: in millions of bugs while you're locked in a clear
Speaker 3: plastic of another one m Nate Shamalan dot beskuyd at
Speaker 3: social buddy and his wife gave their baby a stupid name,
Speaker 3: so I've been workshopping cool star Wars names for him. Instead.
Speaker 3: He started crying from the other room and I.
Speaker 2: Said, graft chorlow on comms.
Speaker 3: I have been told this is quote not helpful.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh.
Speaker 1: And then finally, at leaving Tara's, that gang member was like,
Speaker 1: this seems like the kind of thing of sleep deprived
Speaker 1: dude of a certain age would appreciate.
Speaker 3: And this is the post by at hey hey there,
Speaker 3: Jeff rotstkuy dot social cut my frog.
Speaker 2: In two pieces.
Speaker 3: This is my lab report. Thanks thanks for that one.
Speaker 3: Thanks that gang for looking out for your sleep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, got him all right. You can find me on
Speaker 2: Twitter at Jack underscore o Brian blue Sky jackob be
Speaker 2: the number one there. Somebody shared the clip from the
Speaker 2: latest Final Destination with the guy getting pulled is this
Speaker 2: too much of a spoiler the cat scan thing? Maybe
Speaker 2: maybe I won't. Maybe I won't.
Speaker 1: I've heard anecdotally every person who's set, every person who's
Speaker 1: said it has going. Dude, there's a scene where the
Speaker 1: guy's in a cat scan room and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's getting.
Speaker 2: Like pulled like dick first into like folded over backward
Speaker 2: into the thing, you know, like his the back of
Speaker 2: his head is are touching his heels and and.
Speaker 3: Like Bechno was twisting you up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and at mar the Mortal tweeted this was how
Speaker 2: Nancy Reagan had Frank Sinatra. I just for some reason
Speaker 2: I needed that. Oh my god. You can find us
Speaker 2: on Twitter and Blue Sky at dailyes. I guys were
Speaker 2: the Daily Gust On Instagram. You can go to the
Speaker 2: description of the episode wherever you're listening to it, and
Speaker 2: there you will find the footnote, which is where we
Speaker 2: link off to the information that we talked about in
Speaker 2: today's episode. We also look off to a song that
Speaker 2: we think you might enjoy. Hey, Miles, is there a
Speaker 2: song you think people might enjoy?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, I feel like being a husk has been
Speaker 3: a theme recently. We all feel like we've just become
Speaker 3: husks of ourselves or referring referencing people who seem like
Speaker 3: husks of themselves. So this track is called Husk by
Speaker 3: the band ben I Trust. I really like this band,
Speaker 3: So this is more great like sort of dreamy pop
Speaker 3: rock vibes from men I United colors of ben I Trust.
Speaker 2: Oh all right, we will look off to that in
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Speaker 2: That is going to do it for us this morning.
Speaker 2: We are back on Monday, mm hmm to tell you
Speaker 2: what is trending. We're off for Juneteenth, so take you
Speaker 2: a short, short week this week. I hope everybody has
Speaker 2: a good long weekend and we will talk to you
Speaker 2: on Monday.
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