WEBVTT - MAGA vs MAGA, US = Cause Of/Solution To All Earth’s Problems? 06.19.25

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, ram By, Yeah, all right, bye, what it's like

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<v Speaker 1>to work on this show?

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<v Speaker 2>Hello By?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Hello ram By?

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<v Speaker 2>Hello Andrew? Hello, then Andrew.

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<v Speaker 3>You what happened to you? Guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you doing that? You're just pushed us over the brink?

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<v Speaker 3>Not that bye, Oh, I've got terrible sleep deprivation, man,

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<v Speaker 3>sleep deprivation, Andrew. It's CIA Black site levels. Mate, Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>not maybe not that bad. Maybe not in a CIA

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<v Speaker 3>Black site. Ah. Man, this is wonderful energy to come

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<v Speaker 3>into hold.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so I'm in a state of delirium from lack

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<v Speaker 1>of sleep over the the last I have like accumulated

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<v Speaker 1>maybe five hours of sleep since.

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<v Speaker 4>Fuck, wait, what happened? My fucking kids? My fucking baby

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<v Speaker 4>stein his crib.

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<v Speaker 3>So we had to get the dang we had to

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<v Speaker 3>get the tottle the bed out for him, tot the

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<v Speaker 3>bed out for him, and he just escapes the bloody thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just like he's just so free now. But

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<v Speaker 1>also like this is all part of his development. He's

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<v Speaker 1>now fully in that thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I liked can fly and he's just.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, what are you doing? What's that? What's that? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just fucking it's crazy over here. Yeah, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>let's do this.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, well I was just that's not not a typical.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, not that I were screaming at Bay. There's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of.

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<v Speaker 2>Insane super cut of accent, I think, just all the

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<v Speaker 2>dumb accents, all right, damn Bay? And then Andrew asking

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<v Speaker 2>why are energy? Yeah, he doesn't need to be a

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<v Speaker 2>typical Yeah, not a typical week, not a typical show.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't go. I don't have much in the tank, man,

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<v Speaker 3>That's pretty much all I can give you A the tank.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Hank the fucking tank right.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, the famous Hank the tank.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's me, Hank the Hank Engine, Thomas, the Hank Engine.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a thing?

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<v Speaker 3>Can we use that?

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<v Speaker 2>I have nothing in the tank? Two? Is that a thing?

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<v Speaker 2>I think feels like a call?

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<v Speaker 3>Though I have nothing in the tank too? Is that

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<v Speaker 3>a thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Pipeline Hell, the Internet and welcome in ninety three, Episode

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<v Speaker 2>four of Daredey's Guys. It's a production of iHeart Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a podcast where we take a deep down to America,

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<v Speaker 2>share countess and it is Thursday, June nineteenth, twenty twenty five. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Junete. Hey.

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<v Speaker 1>Unless you're corporate America, then it's just Thursday, the nice Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>We're off. We're off obviously, so no episode tomorrow, episode exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>That's where we went.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, again, if you don't know what you should know,

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<v Speaker 1>fucking Juneteenth this, I'm not here to fuck it.

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<v Speaker 3>If you don't know, come on now, educate yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's also World Sauntering Day, which feels like aggressive

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<v Speaker 1>to juxtaposteenth with being like, hey, why.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you just take like a casual, fancy.

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<v Speaker 2>Free walk on this day and then like the best

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<v Speaker 2>description of the gate of the the slave owners sauntering around? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, oh my god, day for sauntering, it says,

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<v Speaker 2>slow down.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, try mosying around on June nineteen. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>oh whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah, I thought MOSI Day

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<v Speaker 3>was coming out of violence. Yeah, I know, I know,

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, we see you shout out black people, shout out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, freedom for the moment, for the moment, for the.

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<v Speaker 2>Moment, as my favorite freedom fighter Mel Gibson once said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, yeah, all right, my name is Jack O'Brien aka,

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<v Speaker 2>we start World War three. I got it in Yahoo

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<v Speaker 2>with me. We start World War three. Congress they can

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<v Speaker 2>suck on my peen one courtesy of Nick cepper Tyrannis

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<v Speaker 2>Nick Simper Tyrannis on the discord. A bit of the

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<v Speaker 2>Nick temper Tyrannis on the discord, I think written from

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<v Speaker 2>the perspective of h I don't know one Donald Trump, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>g Vance, m h yeah, this is this was the

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<v Speaker 2>fear all along imp the dipshit in there. He's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>start World War three because somebody was like mean to him,

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<v Speaker 2>because we did a protest. Those mean to him and

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, oh yeah, check this ship out.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm weir right now out. Yeah you think I'm baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my

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<v Speaker 2>co host, mister Miles Gray.

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<v Speaker 3>Miles Great, the showgun with no gun, the most sleep

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<v Speaker 3>deprived dude in the San Fernando Valley at the moment,

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<v Speaker 3>I do want to shout out all that gang who's

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<v Speaker 3>reached out through many channels on social media. If someone

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<v Speaker 3>even posted, like I saw a thing on Reddit where

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<v Speaker 3>people were trying to give you advice, baby, like I

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<v Speaker 3>love that gang. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Training for Miles.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, so again, thank you, thank you for

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<v Speaker 3>all the tips. I'm still in the trenches as it were.

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<v Speaker 2>But I will say overwhelmingly they seem to be give

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<v Speaker 2>give the baby a weed gummy, and I just I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like that's not.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we should we should knock that show encouraged

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<v Speaker 3>child abuse. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not going to do that,

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<v Speaker 3>but I am doing. Look, there have been many variations

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<v Speaker 3>on like just just kind of hit just fucking hang

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<v Speaker 3>out a little bit, they fall asleep. I've been trying

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<v Speaker 3>to that, but then he does a thing Jack like

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<v Speaker 3>you said your kid did the second I shift.

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<v Speaker 2>The weight where you go where you.

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<v Speaker 5>Man?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah, it's it's it's wild, but we're We're I'm

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<v Speaker 3>finding a balance. It's wild.

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<v Speaker 1>I also I get so clear in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the night where I'm like barely asleep, I'm like sort

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<v Speaker 1>of this like lucid state where a lot of really

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<v Speaker 1>too bad ideas come to my mind that I that

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<v Speaker 1>I think will make a good cold open. And they

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<v Speaker 1>don't try to start night podcasting, just keep a little

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<v Speaker 1>just whisper night casting.

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<v Speaker 3>Baby still won't sleep. Hey man, you got something to say,

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<v Speaker 3>You got something to say that you don't go fuck?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, I had something to say. I'm also a

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<v Speaker 2>little sleep deprepped, so I had a thing to say

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<v Speaker 2>that left my brain.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna tell you guys this. I feel great.

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<v Speaker 2>I got plenty of sleep.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, at least, look one out of three ain't bad.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm well rested, but under prepared. Don't worry.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tap into some then I'm tapping into something

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<v Speaker 1>to keep this show fucking elevator.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's fucking go. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I remember what I was gonna say. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>this period of my life when my life constantly my

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<v Speaker 2>life shout out to Mela delirious, having a new found

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<v Speaker 2>appreciation for the drugs that your brain like dumps into

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<v Speaker 2>your bloodstream as you're falling asleep, you know, like that

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<v Speaker 2>that lucid clarity where you just like get to know

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<v Speaker 2>sleep a little bit better because you're kind of constantly

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<v Speaker 2>like in and out of it, you know. And then

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<v Speaker 2>like that was the first time I had a real appreciation.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh, like all the drugs that we do

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<v Speaker 2>are just like trying to get back to what is, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what our brain naturally does for us, where it's just

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<v Speaker 2>like and you're high, like that's what dreams are. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just like you are so high right now and floating

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<v Speaker 2>away on a stream of brain chemicals. Enjoy. Does that

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<v Speaker 2>make sense?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, because because the drugs don't create the chemical, they're

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<v Speaker 6>just squeezing it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Give your brain. I don't think.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's not that M D M A I'm looking for.

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<v Speaker 3>I needed to squeeze all the Sarah Tonin and neurot

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<v Speaker 3>out of my.

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<v Speaker 6>Brain and then I whoa, Right, I just said the

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<v Speaker 6>most freshman in college version of realizing how drugs were

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<v Speaker 6>so Having taken the bog hit, I am now philosophizing the.

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<v Speaker 2>Freshman in college bung hit. Like first bung hit conversations

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<v Speaker 2>are vastly underrated. That's that's the good stuff, that's yours.

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<v Speaker 3>If you could just be like, bro, we've taped like

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<v Speaker 3>it is. That's what this is, all right, that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the level I operate after. I don't like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't like podcasts where people know ship.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's literally in the like crazy idea I had

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<v Speaker 2>well looking at a pink Floyd poster.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, And for me it's wild reckless speculation.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, quick thing. A bunch of new listeners for

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<v Speaker 2>some reason, maybe the dissolution of the mainstream media impending fascism.

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<v Speaker 2>But hi, welcome and uh yeah, if people like the show,

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<v Speaker 2>rate review it, tell your friend about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Got help, Thanks for thanks for listening. Yeah, thank you

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<v Speaker 3>to a chance on this group.

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<v Speaker 2>Of Thanks for taking right now.

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<v Speaker 3>It's also conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like so volatile, didn't you Miles were thrilled

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<v Speaker 2>to be joined in the third our third seat, but

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<v Speaker 2>one of our favorites, one of the very faces on

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<v Speaker 2>Mount Zite wore a hilarious and brilliant producer, TV writer

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<v Speaker 2>you know from the Yos This racist podcast one of

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<v Speaker 2>the all time great podcasts. Yeah, it's Andrew to and.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't refer to Ka Ta, but normally I will

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<v Speaker 3>say this, I usually plug it in quite a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of effort trying to come up with a song.

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<v Speaker 6>I did peruse briefly the Discord. New listeners, go check

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<v Speaker 6>out the Discord. Still more pissed talk than I would

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<v Speaker 6>have thought.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, you gave them a nice talking to the

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<v Speaker 2>last time you were on, you were like, go to

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<v Speaker 2>the AKA thing. They took that as like a personal challenge,

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<v Speaker 2>which I kind of respect, where they're just like yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>oh yeah. They called out the fact that three years,

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<v Speaker 2>probably longer. Four years after Jack told this anecdote, we're

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<v Speaker 2>still just writing lyrics about his pants and pretending of

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<v Speaker 2>his water ice. We're gonna do that even more.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, sorry, I'm just okay. Next time I'm on

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<v Speaker 6>the show, my mission will be to tell a personal,

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<v Speaker 6>bodily fluid anecdote extremity, even more extremity that.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't need to be more. Yeah, although it is

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<v Speaker 2>pretty unextreme, because I'm pretty sure pissed my pants. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>pretty sure it was, just like.

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<v Speaker 3>Yours is the lowest song of embarrassing thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think we could beat it. I just think

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<v Speaker 2>we could beat it.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm the throne I'm gutting for is relentless inside joke

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<v Speaker 6>on the ak.

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<v Speaker 2>Impenetrable akhe I'm pretty sure. I like, I know for

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<v Speaker 2>a fact, I can be. There are plenty of story, embarrassing,

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<v Speaker 2>humiliating stories from my life that I just haven't told yet.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's we're we're dulling these out.

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<v Speaker 5>This is.

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<v Speaker 2>An arm right, man. When I was drinking too much, boy,

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<v Speaker 2>oh boy, did I do some humiliating things. Folks. You'll

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<v Speaker 2>find out about that in the years to come, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>not not me. Anyway, really great new listeners material. This

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<v Speaker 2>is impenetrable. Lare inside jokes. That's right, That's that's what

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<v Speaker 2>we're here for.

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<v Speaker 6>Wonderful, Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome, and now get the fuck out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew. We're thrilled to have you. We're going to get

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<v Speaker 2>to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the

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<v Speaker 2>things that we're talking about. Uh, we're going to just

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<v Speaker 2>take a look at the general state of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>How you know, we're seeing some bad things happen, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're generally not good at looking running the tape back

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<v Speaker 2>to see where that where those bad things from.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're gonna we're gonna look at a couple the

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<v Speaker 2>two big ones, Yeah, the Ice Raids and the war

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<v Speaker 2>with Iran, the war being waged on Iran.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're gonna look at both of those situations and

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<v Speaker 3>whether the US had anything to do with.

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<v Speaker 1>The anything to do anything, anything at all, probably anything

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<v Speaker 1>at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're just here. Things are happening to us.

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<v Speaker 3>Not the American boomerang striking us right in the face again, camp, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>at this time.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll talk about that. We'll also talk about why

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<v Speaker 2>we like Tucker Carlson. Now, no that's not true, but Carlson,

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Resistance. Won't know how many times I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen that tweeted. Now I'm one of our new listeners. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>come to brunch. Now the live cookout is brunch. We

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<v Speaker 2>need these people that the cookout. But the people who

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<v Speaker 2>say talker Carls and welcome to brunch, I know exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>We need the If Kama led one, we'd all be

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<v Speaker 2>at brunch right now. We need them, We need them

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<v Speaker 2>to watch to wide tent. I don't have to like them, though,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to talk med ship about them and

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<v Speaker 2>you can.

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<v Speaker 3>But look, we got to say focus man, it's about.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about that. There's some there's an article in

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<v Speaker 2>the New York Times just talking just giving some anecdotes

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<v Speaker 2>and then some research about how people are interacting with chat,

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<v Speaker 2>GPT and large large language models. That pretty fine, pretty wild.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm always skeptical about these because I remember an era

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<v Speaker 2>when the mainstream media was just combing the crime blodder

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<v Speaker 2>for any crime that was committed that was in any

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<v Speaker 2>way tangentially related to either video games or internet chat

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<v Speaker 2>rooms would be like chat room murder, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>and so I don't want to fall into that. On

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<v Speaker 2>the other hand, this stuff is pretty unique to chat,

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<v Speaker 2>GBT and AI, and it's it's.

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<v Speaker 6>Worked over ahead a little bit. I don't think it

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<v Speaker 6>is man. People don't fucking Eliza in the nineties.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. Yeah, I think we're just what we're like.

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<v Speaker 2>They are nonetheless very entertaining.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't encouraging you to do harm to yourself, which

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of cases which.

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<v Speaker 2>It is not entertaining. And Ozzy Osbourne's DNA you can

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<v Speaker 2>go buy that, uh fortunately just to saliva. Ah.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's fine. Whatever you find under your.

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<v Speaker 2>Canail, your come Ozzy Osbourne.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Ozzy Osbourne. It's just what. He doesn't even have

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<v Speaker 3>DNA at this point. I'm pretty sure he's like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Household, we believe.

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<v Speaker 3>Give me your Ozzie Osbourne.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Andrew, welcome new listeners, all of that plenty more.

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like you guys took this as a challenge

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<v Speaker 6>as much as.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, all my ship is going to be weird

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<v Speaker 3>and dumb.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so good, so perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>Strap in, strap in assholes, Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew with something from your search history that's revealing about

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<v Speaker 2>who you are.

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<v Speaker 6>I started, Uh, I guess the best way to say

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<v Speaker 6>this is, is it like best this This is just

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<v Speaker 6>an amalgamation of quite a long couple of minutes of searching,

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<v Speaker 6>but best container for steaming vegetables in a microwave. I've

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<v Speaker 6>become a microwave steaming motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, steam and Willie Beamon over here exactly.

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<v Speaker 6>I visited my sister who is like a new Ish mom,

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<v Speaker 6>and she's just like, chop up the broccoli, put it

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<v Speaker 6>in the fucking microwave.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's to learn a lesson about a ficiency. So good.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it really like I was like, oh, this is

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<v Speaker 6>fucking honestly amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just wanted to make sure.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know, I feel like I'm like like definitively

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<v Speaker 6>like barn door after the microplastics have like deeply invaded

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<v Speaker 6>my brain already. But I got like cold feet about

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<v Speaker 6>the vessel I was using a microwave.

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<v Speaker 3>My vegetables did, so I had to I had to

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<v Speaker 3>go down that rabbit hole a little bit.

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<v Speaker 6>But yeah, it's been mostly saran wrap and with my yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>glass bole.

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<v Speaker 2>That's because it does it every time. That works for me. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I use.

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<v Speaker 3>A milar balloon usually.

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<v Speaker 2>Good. I actually use card going out every time. I

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<v Speaker 2>created a bowl out of just pure Scotch guard. I like,

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<v Speaker 2>you put my hand in a bowl shape and sketch

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<v Speaker 2>guard the inside of my hands like a little bowl

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<v Speaker 2>and that's oh my god, that's beautiful. And then into

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<v Speaker 2>the my was the original forever chemical I think, right,

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<v Speaker 2>that's like the one that three M made and like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>people were like immediately like if you lived anywhere that

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<v Speaker 2>scotch card was during the fifties, you have this in

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<v Speaker 2>your that was.

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<v Speaker 3>Just like like tape for the inside of your veins basically.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. It's just like like scotch tape, but inside you

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<v Speaker 2>What if you had just like liquid scotch tape running

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<v Speaker 2>throughout your body.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I know, I'm trying to stay in the like,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, unintended consequences maybe positive thing. I'm one, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>obviously this can't be good. It's a little bit the

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<v Speaker 6>same as the you know, chat GPT brain poison thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm just like, I don't know, on some level,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe you know, maybe we're going to find.

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<v Speaker 6>Out that people with all this Scotch guard in their

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<v Speaker 6>blood get fewer strokes or I guess what's more likely, way, way,

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<v Speaker 6>way more strokes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now fewer our blood more slippery.

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<v Speaker 3>We shall see.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, plastic dudes, We're just we're just plastic plastic. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been having aretchy.

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<v Speaker 6>Believable amounts of uh steamed steamed box mostly.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we like have we underrated the microwave? Just I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like it feels worse than it actually is. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I've always like felt like that's a cancer box. But

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<v Speaker 2>like I'll use an age.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think I think not to not to docks

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<v Speaker 6>us to the new listeners in our eternal youth.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think people in our generation, what we're twenty seven,

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<v Speaker 3>so we were we were all this, I'm four.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we were saying kids, don't stand, don't stand too

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<v Speaker 5>close to the mark, like three grades above me, right,

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<v Speaker 5>He's like three grades are you guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Teachers?

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<v Speaker 3>Are we mean twentieth grade?

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<v Speaker 2>It actually we met so young that it's weird that

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<v Speaker 2>I was hanging out with him being overwing. That guy's

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<v Speaker 2>already going through puberty. Why college kid, Lets me sip

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<v Speaker 2>some beers, okay, just some people. I'm reading that the

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<v Speaker 2>microwaves that come out are non ionizing.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's right. That isn't dangerous to people.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good. Yeah, I think I think it's it's.

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<v Speaker 6>Like, because they've been around for so long, if they

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<v Speaker 6>were causing cancer, first of all, how would we know, right,

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<v Speaker 6>getting there's just too much.

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<v Speaker 3>We're justulating Anyways.

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<v Speaker 2>This is usually what we're showing back. This is usually

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<v Speaker 2>when our show gets in trouble, when we're like, and

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<v Speaker 2>what about like water alcalizing and.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh oh man, listen, I'm replacing either of my under

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<v Speaker 3>or opera with that. No, I get ready, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be even worse.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, all right, Andrew, what's something you think is underrated?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man? Just using normal ass? Water?

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<v Speaker 6>Way underrated? Not using normal ass? Okay, listen, whatever I got.

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<v Speaker 6>I took one step up in coffee madness, and I

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<v Speaker 6>am now buying separate minerals to put into distilled water

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<v Speaker 6>to make coffee with in the mornings.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're using distilled water and then adding us from

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<v Speaker 2>tap water back in.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but like a calibrated proportion, I suppose. So I

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<v Speaker 6>guess underrated is not using an insane coffee process. Here's

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<v Speaker 6>the thing I will tell you, Jack, I don't have

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<v Speaker 6>the palette or the ability, especially given the like cognitive

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<v Speaker 6>dissonance that has gone into this process, to tell you

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<v Speaker 6>whether it tastes better.

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<v Speaker 2>It tastes better to me, sure, but.

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<v Speaker 3>That's because I fucking bought a powder off the internet

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<v Speaker 3>and now have to like buy water. Including this week,

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<v Speaker 3>I went at midnight, past midnight to the CVS that

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<v Speaker 3>was open, just so I could get distilled water so

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<v Speaker 3>I could have my morning coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn, wow, wow, culinary arts.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're doing this thing about like marinating a coke

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<v Speaker 1>and the refrigerator for three weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>It tastes better.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, It's crispy, although it actually gets a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>overly crispy. I like the five day crispiness. Yeah, five days,

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<v Speaker 2>twelve hours.

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<v Speaker 3>Got to bring it back. What Andrews do you think

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<v Speaker 3>is overrated? All right, I'll just be I it's it is.

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<v Speaker 6>As we talked about it a second, it is, And

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<v Speaker 6>I'm positive I said something like this last time.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a big protest.

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<v Speaker 6>But it is something I need to constantly tamp down

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<v Speaker 6>in myself, which is the like my reflexive hating on

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<v Speaker 6>the like drum folks at protests because it's it's like

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<v Speaker 6>they're fine. They're fine, They genuinely are fine. I I

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<v Speaker 6>have to remind myself of saying that. I feel like

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<v Speaker 6>I coined but maybe not that which is which is

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<v Speaker 6>being corny is not a crime, like I don't think

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<v Speaker 6>it's I don't, It's not, to me, the funniest thing

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<v Speaker 6>I've ever heard. I wish more people on whatever is

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<v Speaker 6>left of fucking Nancy Pelosi would be a little more

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<v Speaker 6>creative and not parrot a bit from fucking five years ago. Still, however,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I'm glad you're here, thank you for being

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<v Speaker 6>on on the.

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<v Speaker 2>Streets, and honestly, kind of a revolutionary idea if we could,

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<v Speaker 2>if everybody across the board could just like inhabit that

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<v Speaker 2>like from like you know, far left. Yeah, just corny

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<v Speaker 2>is not a crime, like yes, like it is them

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<v Speaker 2>singing take Trump out of the Why is that cool?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that funny? No, it's not. But if we took

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<v Speaker 2>Trump out of the White House, the world would be better.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's just let them sing the thing that I

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<v Speaker 2>think we all agree on. I don't, Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't, I'm not, I don't, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, I'm mad at the message you know what I mean, Right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's I think.

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<v Speaker 6>It's just like like because I would say, I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>the biggest like tragedy of this is like, yes, all

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<v Speaker 6>the like kind of like wokeness scolds, including me on

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<v Speaker 6>Yosi's racist, Like a big part of this like insane

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<v Speaker 6>fascist backlash was like those people feeling.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, victimized. Yeah, sure, well you mean to me.

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<v Speaker 2>We weren't wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I think the other part exactly, it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to respect trains people. That's that's that's a

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<v Speaker 1>non negotiable. But I think the thing is for people

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<v Speaker 1>who are hearing that when they're when they're a material

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<v Speaker 1>living situation is dire, It's like, I honestly don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the bandwidth for that. I'm I don't have money and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm supposed to and I'm being yelled at for the

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<v Speaker 1>like what's the priority here? So I mean I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's where, you know, a lot of the times leadership

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<v Speaker 1>fails to be like you actually need to be really

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<v Speaker 1>focusing on like material inequality, like that's right, that should

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<v Speaker 1>underpin everything else you do because you need to solve

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<v Speaker 1>that piece to get people on board to.

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<v Speaker 3>Reject right wing ideology, Like that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Just that's the data, is there, baby, you just gotta

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<v Speaker 1>flow the paradigm up.

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<v Speaker 6>The the like tiny like disconnect and the tiny way

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<v Speaker 6>that this like the corny is a crime people have

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<v Speaker 6>a like to stand on.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is that like the problem was just.

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<v Speaker 6>Sort of like we'll just say, I don't know, in

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<v Speaker 6>my opinion, the Democratic Party thought the corn was like sufficient,

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<v Speaker 6>like it was the kneeling and could take closs business.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, right, that's actually cool.

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<v Speaker 3>You mean it's like we call those pump fakes.

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<v Speaker 6>Actually, but but like that stuff is all fine, and

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<v Speaker 6>like broadly speaking, correct, you just can't also then sell

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<v Speaker 6>out people's economic futures to the same people Trump is

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<v Speaker 6>trying to sell out well.

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<v Speaker 3>And also, like I said, you can't pump fake like

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<v Speaker 3>don't take a knee acting like yo, this police violence

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<v Speaker 3>is out of hand. And then anytime some kind of

0:25:21.080 --> 0:25:23.639
<v Speaker 3>meaningful police reform bill comes up, you're like, I'm actually

0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:26.600
<v Speaker 3>in solidarity with the police union, Like this is the

0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:28.520
<v Speaker 3>most they would let me get away with that summer,

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<v Speaker 3>And that's that's I take it to the limit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>if your only thing is chasing whatever is pulling, well

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<v Speaker 3>in the moment, like people people catch onto that pretty quickly.

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<v Speaker 6>But it's not even that because economic equality is pulling well.

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<v Speaker 3>So like, but I mean, that's that's their to the core.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like, I mean, the things we can get away

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<v Speaker 3>with by using the rationale that it's popular, will do that.

0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:54.800
<v Speaker 3>Anything that upsets the status quo, even if it is

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<v Speaker 3>single pay.

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<v Speaker 2>Or what the.

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<v Speaker 6>Go nil guys, yeah, yeah, yeah, Neil, Neil, that'll distract him.

0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:07.080
<v Speaker 3>That'll distract him.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's anyway, that was an incoherent set of under

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<v Speaker 6>and overrated.

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<v Speaker 2>But like it I feel I'll leave it as an exercise.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader to

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<v Speaker 6>figure out what my actual ciphers.

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<v Speaker 2>Over under an n rated.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all three, let's take a quick break.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be right back and we are right back and.

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<v Speaker 3>From where we started, right back where we started again. Yeah,

0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:50.440
<v Speaker 3>we kind of are right back where we started again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, so we like there.

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<v Speaker 1>Has so much there's just so much talk of, you

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<v Speaker 1>know right now, ambiently, right all we're hearing in America

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:03.879
<v Speaker 1>is like violent immigrants and immigrant gangs and the threat

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 1>of a nuclear Iran and sadly the media is just

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 1>like relying on their bad habits of providing zero context

0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 1>when talking about issues that have global ramifications.

0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:16.000
<v Speaker 3>I just want to start off pointing out a couple

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 3>of things. Of these things.

0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Immigration, Right, We're currently seeing a campaign of terror unfold

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:24.159
<v Speaker 1>on our streets as mask goon secret police whoever the

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:27.200
<v Speaker 1>fuck they are just snatching up innocent people off the streets.

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:30.199
<v Speaker 1>I say innocent to like juxtapose that with like the

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:33.680
<v Speaker 1>DHS and ICE officials who are using as their ration

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:36.720
<v Speaker 1>at like this idea like violent. There we're getting only

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:40.719
<v Speaker 1>the violent criminals, the worst, these murderers, and they typically

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:44.439
<v Speaker 1>evoke the boogeyman of MS thirteen. Just want to remind

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:48.520
<v Speaker 1>ourselves the United States is basically the fucking reason MS

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:51.200
<v Speaker 1>thirteen even exists in the first place. Here's the here's

0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 1>the very quick truncated version.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. During the Cold War, the US was using financial

0:27:56.840 --> 0:28:00.600
<v Speaker 3>coercion and arming governments to fight off any suspected expansion

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:04.480
<v Speaker 3>of like leftist ideology that they read as communists. Okay.

0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:08.639
<v Speaker 1>In l Salvador, the possibility of anything resembling a leftist

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 1>government caused concern, and the US began opposite, arming the opposition,

0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:15.920
<v Speaker 1>and contributed to the civil war there. This caused many

0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:19.920
<v Speaker 1>people to flee the unrest to places like the United States.

0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 1>Many of these young men who arrived in LA, they

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:26.920
<v Speaker 1>learned LA gang culture, they took and then once Bill

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:31.159
<v Speaker 1>Clinton started his whole fucking policy of super predators, of

0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 1>deporting people in mass basically all these young men came

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 1>from LA and we started exporting gang culture to El Salvador.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's how you begin to see the beginnings of

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 1>MS thirteen, you know, show up. So it's actually our

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:48.800
<v Speaker 1>anti communist, military interventionist habit and the love of deporting

0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 1>people from destabilized nations that we destabilized that created MS thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, the East, I don't know, Miles, this doesn't sound

0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:58.320
<v Speaker 2>like US.

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<v Speaker 3>Jess, Rita and Latin America just read up on it.

0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:03.400
<v Speaker 3>Like what you're trying to do with your bananas.

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<v Speaker 2>You can just replace El Salvador with any other.

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeahs, Like it's all fucking there. Okay, So this is

0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:15.160
<v Speaker 3>why we and when people go, why.

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Don't they stay in their countries because we fucking destabilize

0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 1>them because they deigned to flirt with like socialism and

0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 1>just like we're gonna nationalize our industry.

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 3>Now one of the industries, right, fuck you are you're gonna.

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:34.040
<v Speaker 2>And this is all is gonna come in that it's

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 2>gonna be a massive corporation and they're going to do

0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:39.920
<v Speaker 2>what you know, like what Walmart did to the Midwest,

0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:42.360
<v Speaker 2>like what They're just going to hoover up all the

0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 2>resources and take it out of your country and then take.

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<v Speaker 3>To as fuck and put it in the market. Yeah,

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:51.120
<v Speaker 3>and also kill anyone who's trying to oppose it.

0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 6>And this is also poor people in America wouldn't see

0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 6>a system like this working, so they would would always

0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:01.360
<v Speaker 6>as they've been doing, vote for more.

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:04.480
<v Speaker 2>Look at Cuba. Look at Cuba, guys, you can't vote

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:06.960
<v Speaker 2>for fucking anybody on the left. Look at what Cuba.

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:08.720
<v Speaker 2>Well look what youbot it.

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 3>Is in Venezuela. You mean because of all the fucking embargoes,

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 3>because they get medicine.

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 1>But what do you think again that situation. It looks

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:18.640
<v Speaker 1>like that because we have a hand in that. So again,

0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:21.280
<v Speaker 1>now we have Iran right right now, there's so many

0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:24.480
<v Speaker 1>fucking freaks on TV trying to manufacture consent to attack

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Iran and ultimately do regime change.

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 3>But again, the.

0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 1>US already did that in the fifties. Okay, Iranians democratically

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:36.640
<v Speaker 1>elected their prime minister, Mohammed Mosadeg. He angered the US

0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:38.640
<v Speaker 1>and UK when he said that he was going to

0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:42.240
<v Speaker 1>nationalize Iran's oil industry, and British at the time British

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Petroleum was like, so we're not having that. So the

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:48.920
<v Speaker 1>US and the UK. So the CIA, in secret intelligence

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 1>service sis ken is a visible army, came conducted a

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:56.160
<v Speaker 1>coup to concentrate power with the Shah of Iran, who

0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:59.560
<v Speaker 1>would do as he was told by America. This field

0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:03.600
<v Speaker 1>the anti American sentiment that gave way to the Iranian Revolution,

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:05.959
<v Speaker 1>which kicked off the new era of the Islamic Republic,

0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 1>which they are now saying, this is a threat to everything.

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:12.080
<v Speaker 1>So the US, again along with the allies, have done

0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 1>all they can to destabilize. You're on a country, by

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 1>all accounts, is not building a nuclear weapon, okay, And

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:21.720
<v Speaker 1>we're hearing constantly the same takes like nuclear weapon.

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 2>By all accounts of the people who are currently saying

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 2>they were like a week ago, yeah, yeah, exactly.

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:29.960
<v Speaker 3>And yet now we're cheering on Israel.

0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Not like us personally, but like the sort of general

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 1>political discourse in DC is like cheering on Israel foret

0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:38.000
<v Speaker 1>another illegal attack on a nation and it's people. So

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 1>again we're talking Israel is the one that has nuclear

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:46.959
<v Speaker 1>weapons and is not signing onto a nuclear non proliferation treaty.

0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 3>Like yeah, it's so backwards right now.

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm seeing a lot of people do the thing where

0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:54.000
<v Speaker 2>they're like, look, guys, I don't want a nuclear round

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:57.320
<v Speaker 2>just like everybody else. It's like yeah, but like, can

0:31:57.400 --> 0:32:00.720
<v Speaker 2>you think of a worst country to have clear weapons

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 2>than Israel, who like won't sign on to any of

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:08.400
<v Speaker 2>the like international laws, who are like flouting international laws

0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 2>and like killing people and committing more crimes like actively,

0:32:10.840 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Like that's the really scary thing to me. Like if

0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:18.080
<v Speaker 2>you're just like not a fan of innocent people being killed,

0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 2>the idea that Israel has nuclear weapons is very scary.

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:22.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Also, like why won't they allow inspections by the International

0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Atomic Eight Energy Agency? Like what are we talking about?

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 1>And again Obama made a deal with Iran.

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:31.640
<v Speaker 3>Trump is a.

0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Racist, so he had to blow that up and act

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:35.080
<v Speaker 1>like he was going to do something different to get credit,

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:38.040
<v Speaker 1>and this only moved things backwards, and now we're just

0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:40.720
<v Speaker 1>now we're fucking here and we're talking about like Iran,

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:42.719
<v Speaker 1>there's such a threat to the stability of the region.

0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, I'm sorry, Are they engaged in a

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:48.200
<v Speaker 1>genocidal campaign in Gaza and occupying the West Bank? Did

0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:50.520
<v Speaker 1>they attack Lebanon and invade.

0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 3>The de facto are exactly?

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:55.480
<v Speaker 1>And I mean that's like the shorthand that people are

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:58.160
<v Speaker 1>just like going back to this war on terror like

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:01.160
<v Speaker 1>thought killing cliche where they're like, that's you know, you're wrong.

0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 1>And the same people that fucking cheered on the war

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 1>on terror that killed four and a half million people

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:13.160
<v Speaker 1>conservatively are now just raw ryeing this on. And yet

0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 1>there they don't have to answer for their sin of

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 1>being like, yeah they got w and we gotta fucking

0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 1>do this shit. Uh, And they're doing the exact same thing.

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 3>It's just like baffling, baffling.

0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:26.120
<v Speaker 2>These are the These are the people who you can

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:29.560
<v Speaker 2>blow their mind with the Matthew McConaughey trick. Now, now

0:33:29.600 --> 0:33:30.800
<v Speaker 2>imagine those people are.

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 3>White, right, would that be from a time to kill?

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, now now imagine they're white. Oh what well

0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 2>that was wait what that would be horrible Jesus terrible.

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 2>It's also like.

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 3>Even in the small media version, it is a little

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 3>bonkers that no one who is so wrong about Iraq,

0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:58.120
<v Speaker 3>like intelligence wise, has faced any like even credibility consequence. Yeah, nope, Like, hey, motherfuckers,

0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 3>these are largely the same. It's certainly the same institutions. Yeah,

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:02.080
<v Speaker 3>some of the same.

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:05.520
<v Speaker 6>People who are telling the same lies for the same

0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:06.760
<v Speaker 6>obvious reasons.

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 2>And we thought that didn't go well, like right, Like

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:11.920
<v Speaker 2>we all agreed at the end of that one that

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 2>that was bad, right, Like, I guess this one feels

0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 2>a little bit different because Israel is the US in

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:20.359
<v Speaker 2>this case and they're like, are you.

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:23.799
<v Speaker 3>And the coalition of the willing type ship?

0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that that was just like we thought we

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:33.840
<v Speaker 2>thought the Iraq than yeah, that was right, guys, my

0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:36.359
<v Speaker 2>crazy heir to that that that was that didn't go.

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 3>Grace right, But yeah, no one again, like and what

0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 3>happened there, It's like there is a presupposition of weapons

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:45.799
<v Speaker 3>of mass destruction. And also, wasn't net and Yahoo coming

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:48.720
<v Speaker 3>to d C saying if you guys take out Saddam Hussein,

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:50.640
<v Speaker 3>everything will be right in the world, and was the

0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:55.160
<v Speaker 3>biggest Oh okay, so but then okay, okay, we'll just Okay, okay, yeah,

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 3>we'll believe everything. We believe everything, and let's were about

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 3>to see let's not learn from history ever. That's what's

0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:03.239
<v Speaker 3>so fucking that's frustrating and.

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 2>Likes not on our point.

0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:09.480
<v Speaker 3>Let's just not What if we just took that off

0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 3>the table, Like what if we just did repeat history

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 3>every time?

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 6>I mean, you know what, That's the thing that's a

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:18.759
<v Speaker 6>nice thing about the Internet age is like you know,

0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 6>not only do we repeat history, we repeat it much faster.

0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:26.480
<v Speaker 6>That's you know everything. The nineties are back, is what

0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:29.120
<v Speaker 6>I'm saying, and even.

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:33.160
<v Speaker 3>The two thousands are already back. Yeah, it's a cosmic

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:37.480
<v Speaker 3>gumbo of the three name brought back.

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:41.480
<v Speaker 2>There's a I think it was a radio Lab episode

0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 2>that was about people who lose their short term memory

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:48.400
<v Speaker 2>and they like they're coming out of like a you know,

0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:54.320
<v Speaker 2>comba or something like that, and they like their loved

0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:57.560
<v Speaker 2>ones will report that they will like repeat themselves over

0:35:57.640 --> 0:36:00.320
<v Speaker 2>and over again, like just the speed with which they'll

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:04.680
<v Speaker 2>they'll be like like, I just remember the episode they

0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:07.480
<v Speaker 2>like recorded this person having this conversation, and like the

0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:10.480
<v Speaker 2>people they're talking to are like kind of like you know,

0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:12.880
<v Speaker 2>taking a breath and then like answering their question, they're like,

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:15.959
<v Speaker 2>that's because they had just asked that like two minutes ago.

0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:19.839
<v Speaker 2>And so like the speed with which you repeat, if

0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:23.640
<v Speaker 2>you just have no memory, it's like it just happens

0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:26.600
<v Speaker 2>so quickly, and because there's just so much noise, there's

0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:30.440
<v Speaker 2>just so little awareness. It just feels like we're just

0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 2>repeating things like within a decade or two decades. Like

0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:39.040
<v Speaker 2>it's just like the has them disease exactly, Yeah, but

0:36:39.120 --> 0:36:42.120
<v Speaker 2>no tattoos, but none of the tattoos to remind them

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:43.799
<v Speaker 2>of what the no tattoos.

0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:46.680
<v Speaker 3>Just a fucking guy probably just trying to kill somebody.

0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 2>They don't know why, just killing someone, dude, we're raw

0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 2>dogging memento with no tattoos.

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they just want to kill someone and make themselves

0:36:57.040 --> 0:36:58.440
<v Speaker 3>feel better for it.

0:36:58.560 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 2>If you could like have a beard, that would be cool.

0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, like that'd be good.

0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:05.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, like to your point, Jack, it's like

0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 1>when you if you do remember, then when that impulse

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:10.120
<v Speaker 1>comes up, you have a memory attached to it.

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:13.480
<v Speaker 3>And be like, oh that's right, stove, hot n touch stove.

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:17.400
<v Speaker 1>But we never as a nation are ever we we

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<v Speaker 1>just don't have reckonings with our white supremacy, our xenophobia,

0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 1>our homophobia are imperial interventionist streak of regime change. And

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<v Speaker 1>so every time these moments help come up, the people

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<v Speaker 1>that feel that shit are like, ah no, no, no, no, no, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all don't remember that, and they're like no because it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't affect me. And this time we're doing it again

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<v Speaker 1>in another way where people are like, do you all remember?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so there's some mag and that's why there's some

0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:45.960
<v Speaker 1>magot people who are like, fuck base war. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously it's for bad reasons, but you're seeing this now

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<v Speaker 1>where they're even like that last that wars is not good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd rather focus on their money in our country, even

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<v Speaker 1>though stuff are.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing is wildly unpopular.

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<v Speaker 6>Like before, it never matters and it never has matter now,

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<v Speaker 6>but also never had a four miles. What's happening is

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<v Speaker 6>you're talking to a dangerous stove salesman whose yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, Hey, so where's the like where the burdeners? You

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<v Speaker 3>just turn on a big flame shoots.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, you need the new stove if you want to

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<v Speaker 6>get actually does the same thing. Yeah, yeah, oh you

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<v Speaker 6>know what? Yeah, Ratheon makes that one. I'll bring that

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<v Speaker 6>next time I come.

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<v Speaker 2>To But yeah, I mean it does. It does feel

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<v Speaker 2>like if they're if they accidentally talk to someone who's

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<v Speaker 2>willing to push back, they're kind of in trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's the Stove Theon and I thought of the

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<v Speaker 3>gray Joy as a stove, Yeah, or Rathon ray Charles

0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:48.760
<v Speaker 3>as beon Gray Joy. All right, sorry that that actually

0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 3>he is a.

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<v Speaker 2>Lucid deep lucid dreamer. What if Raytheon just switched their

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:06.640
<v Speaker 2>logo to that dressed as or the gray Joy with

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<v Speaker 2>the glasses on at a pan don't worry about what's happening.

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<v Speaker 3>And you got the right one.

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<v Speaker 2>Baby.

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<v Speaker 6>Here's what I will say is there's no good or

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<v Speaker 6>ethical use of AI, except obviously for generating Rathie.

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<v Speaker 7>I want to see Raytheon, Okay, I do just want

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<v Speaker 7>to talk about because they they don't really have their

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<v Speaker 7>defenses built up on this one, so when they do

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<v Speaker 7>accidentally talk to somebody who is making the point that

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<v Speaker 7>this is a bad idea, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't really go well for them. Yeah, and that's what

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<v Speaker 2>that's what happened. Because Tucker Carlson happens to be on

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<v Speaker 2>the right side of this specific issue, and he he

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<v Speaker 2>talked to Ted Cruz and.

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<v Speaker 3>Fucking grilled him in the most low stakes way, but

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<v Speaker 3>just in this dickish way that it just completely cooked

0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:58.120
<v Speaker 3>Ted Cruz that he got caught like in this moment

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<v Speaker 3>being like, oh, I don't have an answer for these

0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:04.440
<v Speaker 3>very basic questions. So here is I. We'll play a

0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:04.840
<v Speaker 3>bit of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Because this thing goes on for a minute with Tucker

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<v Speaker 1>Carlson just really holding his feet to the fire.

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<v Speaker 8>How many people living around?

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<v Speaker 9>By the way, I don't know the population at all. No,

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<v Speaker 9>I don't know the population. You don't know the population

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<v Speaker 9>of the country.

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<v Speaker 8>You seek to topple.

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<v Speaker 2>How many people living around? What the pug is?

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<v Speaker 3>What the are you doing?

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<v Speaker 9>How could you not know that?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, dude, it's so lack though, like as

0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:32.880
<v Speaker 2>just like doing it like it's a fucking trivia contest.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you're yeah, or like in a toxic relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>tore Like, what do you mean you don't know where

0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:38.319
<v Speaker 1>you at last night?

0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:39.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, so you don't know you don't know your

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<v Speaker 3>own friends to phone number? Who I need to call it?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's just get.

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<v Speaker 9>Around the don't sit around memorizing population tables.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, it's kind of relevant because you're calling for the

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<v Speaker 8>overthrow of the government.

0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:51.719
<v Speaker 9>Why is it relevant whether it's well because ninety million

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<v Speaker 9>or eighty million or a hundred million.

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<v Speaker 8>Why is if you don't know anything about the country.

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<v Speaker 9>I didn't say I don't know anything about Okay, what's

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<v Speaker 9>the ethics?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh boy? Oh like you like? Name every album.

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<v Speaker 9>The Persians were predominantly Shia. Okay, you don't know anything

0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:13.480
<v Speaker 9>about so Okay, I'm not Carlson Iran.

0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:17.000
<v Speaker 8>You're a center who's calling the one government, the one.

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<v Speaker 2>Who about the country.

0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:20.279
<v Speaker 9>You don't know anything about the country. You're the one

0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:22.240
<v Speaker 9>who plays They're not trying to murder Donald Trump.

0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:23.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that.

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<v Speaker 9>Who can't figure out saying you don't killed General Solamoni

0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:29.160
<v Speaker 9>and you believe they're trying to murder Trump?

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, because you're not calling for military strikes against them

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<v Speaker 8>in retaliation.

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<v Speaker 9>And if they really believe that carrying out military strikes today,

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<v Speaker 9>what Israel was right with our help? I'm said, we

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<v Speaker 9>Israel is leading them, but we're supporting them.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, this you're breaking news here because in the US

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<v Speaker 8>government last night denied the National's Krey Council Spokesmlex Fighter

0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:50.560
<v Speaker 8>denied on behalf of Trump that we were acting on.

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<v Speaker 3>Israel's in any offensive.

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<v Speaker 9>Then Israel's bombing, then you just said we were, we

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<v Speaker 9>are supporting it.

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<v Speaker 8>You're a senator if you're saying the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, got him.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, this could have made so much better.

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<v Speaker 6>But Tucker's bikes the camera in such a hilarious way,

0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:20.439
<v Speaker 6>Senator brother, I go to tell you this is good

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<v Speaker 6>also for the podcast listeners. I don't look up the

0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:26.920
<v Speaker 6>actual clip because who gives a funk, But they are

0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:29.360
<v Speaker 6>doing this interview in front of an oil painting of

0:42:29.440 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 6>Ronald Brake would say, bring it back.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't even Oh yeah, it's just it's Sipper City.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm guessing he's at a press conference in front of

0:42:40.280 --> 0:42:43.400
<v Speaker 3>other Republican heroes, but it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, it's like it's like then version of like

0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:49.040
<v Speaker 1>those murals used to see in Hollywood, with like all

0:42:49.080 --> 0:42:52.400
<v Speaker 1>the old Hollywood stars in a theater together. It's like

0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Ronald Reagan and all the architects of our fucking all

0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:58.439
<v Speaker 1>of our ills. But I mean again, I think very

0:42:58.480 --> 0:43:01.200
<v Speaker 1>important just to cat Viat what you just heard from

0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:04.319
<v Speaker 1>Tucker Carlson is that I don't think Tucker Carlson is

0:43:04.320 --> 0:43:07.400
<v Speaker 1>not smart or a decent person. He's clearly questioning the

0:43:07.440 --> 0:43:10.240
<v Speaker 1>involvement of the US because he is a trained circus

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:13.719
<v Speaker 1>rat when it comes to regurgitating Russian talking points since

0:43:13.800 --> 0:43:16.759
<v Speaker 1>Russia has an interest in Iran. That's where he's coming from.

0:43:16.840 --> 0:43:20.239
<v Speaker 1>It's not it's nothing other than that. However, you know,

0:43:20.320 --> 0:43:23.000
<v Speaker 1>like you do like to see people like Ted Cruz sweat,

0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:25.920
<v Speaker 1>although the fuck ill it's coming from a just absolute

0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:29.719
<v Speaker 1>ghoul like Tucker Carlson. But it's just like unreal how

0:43:29.760 --> 0:43:33.759
<v Speaker 1>these people just crumble with just elementary pushback in an

0:43:33.800 --> 0:43:35.120
<v Speaker 1>assholey kind of way.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get. But even that like it did. It's

0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:40.319
<v Speaker 2>weird that he was just like as like, what's the

0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:42.960
<v Speaker 2>what's the ethnic makeup, what's what's.

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<v Speaker 3>The moral grounds at all?

0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:48.279
<v Speaker 2>Like and also like why would be bad? And like

0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:49.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, like you could you can make the

0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:52.239
<v Speaker 2>argument that it would be like obviously morally bad, but

0:43:52.360 --> 0:43:57.040
<v Speaker 2>also like strategically and like no, he's just like you

0:43:57.080 --> 0:44:00.920
<v Speaker 2>don't know shit about around, right, He's you're dumb.

0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:03.600
<v Speaker 3>For wanting to attack them, right, I mean.

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<v Speaker 6>The one thing that this highlights once again though, is

0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:13.600
<v Speaker 6>like the fucking Democrats, Like just like the amount of

0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:18.200
<v Speaker 6>respect they give Republicans in face to face conversations is

0:44:19.080 --> 0:44:24.000
<v Speaker 6>like idiotic. So like they're so easy to bait because

0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 6>they're wrong and stupid.

0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:27.200
<v Speaker 2>About everything right into it.

0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or like and like so many other fucking lawyers,

0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:36.440
<v Speaker 1>they're like, yeah, cross examine them every time whatever.

0:44:36.719 --> 0:44:37.640
<v Speaker 2>But we're saying.

0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:40.360
<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump should marry Aran That's that's y.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>This is also again Ted Cruise's response, because that clip

0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:49.480
<v Speaker 1>obviously started blowing up because you know, the media is like, wow, Maggie.

0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:50.080
<v Speaker 3>Is being blown up.

0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:53.359
<v Speaker 1>Part It's like, no, there's They're just warring factions within

0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 1>the same white supremacist movement. Ted Cruz posted this AI

0:44:57.760 --> 0:45:00.520
<v Speaker 1>bullshit of like it and like a comic handle of

0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:04.279
<v Speaker 1>Tucker Carlson interviewing Luke Skywalker and he goes, what is

0:45:04.280 --> 0:45:07.200
<v Speaker 1>the population of the death start mm hmm. That's Ted

0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:13.359
<v Speaker 1>Cruise's yeah, so is America, Luke Skywalker that you're trying

0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:14.040
<v Speaker 1>to do that now.

0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:15.880
<v Speaker 2>America is the rebel?

0:45:16.600 --> 0:45:19.440
<v Speaker 3>Oh honey, too many people have seen and or but

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:22.239
<v Speaker 3>from what I'm seeing on the internet, people are like

0:45:22.800 --> 0:45:26.040
<v Speaker 3>that kind of awakening some people have had because of

0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:27.320
<v Speaker 3>and or it's really mind blowing.

0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:31.200
<v Speaker 2>But I know, hey, I just finished again. I will

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to the tent.

0:45:32.440 --> 0:45:35.680
<v Speaker 3>You guys will I like, I enjoyed it.

0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:37.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying it's interesting to see like how that

0:45:38.120 --> 0:45:40.360
<v Speaker 1>became a somewhat radicalizing force.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I liked it, but it is this thing where

0:45:42.560 --> 0:45:47.879
<v Speaker 6>it's like, I'm glad you're here. I cannot believe this

0:45:47.960 --> 0:45:51.279
<v Speaker 6>is what it took fascism sickoing for you.

0:45:51.480 --> 0:45:54.239
<v Speaker 2>But fine, this is the equivalent. Like we've talked before

0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:58.160
<v Speaker 2>about how like everybody's losing religion and like the thing

0:45:58.200 --> 0:46:01.880
<v Speaker 2>they're replacing it with is like fandom Beyonce and Taylor

0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Swift and Star Wars, like you know, like it's like

0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:07.839
<v Speaker 2>ship like that. So like having a one of the

0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:12.400
<v Speaker 2>main myths that people like create meaning and belonging from,

0:46:12.719 --> 0:46:17.080
<v Speaker 2>like having that tell them a story that's like, yeah, yeah,

0:46:17.160 --> 0:46:17.680
<v Speaker 2>it makes sense.

0:46:18.000 --> 0:46:22.279
<v Speaker 1>It shows you the power of those platforms too, and

0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:25.320
<v Speaker 1>you're like, yeah, maybe people can be wielding those a

0:46:25.320 --> 0:46:29.280
<v Speaker 1>little bit more responsibly. Yeah yeah, but yeah, shout out Diego.

0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Luna they said had a huge hand and like a

0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:33.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of the like writing and stuff, or a lot

0:46:33.719 --> 0:46:35.120
<v Speaker 1>of the texture of that that show.

0:46:36.280 --> 0:46:38.120
<v Speaker 2>Let's take a quick break and then we'll come back

0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:42.279
<v Speaker 2>and talk about where I'm getting my information from communicating

0:46:42.280 --> 0:46:56.400
<v Speaker 2>with interdimensional beings through AI. Will be right back, and

0:46:56.520 --> 0:47:00.400
<v Speaker 2>we're back. And there's a New York Times article that

0:47:00.800 --> 0:47:05.360
<v Speaker 2>is bringing together a few pretty wild anecdotes and studies

0:47:05.760 --> 0:47:10.040
<v Speaker 2>about some of the dangers of AI, and specifically large

0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:14.800
<v Speaker 2>language models that try to convince you that they are thinking, breathing.

0:47:14.880 --> 0:47:17.799
<v Speaker 3>You know, logic machines are Denaris Targarian.

0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, so, and again, I just want to caveat

0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:26.040
<v Speaker 2>this going into these and I think we should all

0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:31.160
<v Speaker 2>have this in mind, Like for twenty years, the mainstream

0:47:31.239 --> 0:47:34.560
<v Speaker 2>like reporters were just going trying to find any story

0:47:34.560 --> 0:47:38.759
<v Speaker 2>where it was like they googled where to find the

0:47:39.320 --> 0:47:41.640
<v Speaker 2>weapon that they committed the murder with. We'll call this

0:47:41.800 --> 0:47:45.360
<v Speaker 2>a the Google murder. You know, like they just anytime

0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:48.319
<v Speaker 2>there's a new piece of technology, they are going to

0:47:48.880 --> 0:47:51.440
<v Speaker 2>try to associate it with crimes so that it seems

0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:54.759
<v Speaker 2>like this is this is the scary future, said, this

0:47:54.880 --> 0:47:57.480
<v Speaker 2>is you know, these are some weird things that are

0:47:57.480 --> 0:48:01.200
<v Speaker 2>happening on AI that don't have like immediate analogus to

0:48:01.640 --> 0:48:07.000
<v Speaker 2>like previous things I think people generally will find that

0:48:07.200 --> 0:48:11.040
<v Speaker 2>they're we're all very fallible, and we will find ways

0:48:11.120 --> 0:48:14.719
<v Speaker 2>to like go crazy however we want to, you know,

0:48:14.960 --> 0:48:18.160
<v Speaker 2>like if we want to go down a dangerous path,

0:48:18.320 --> 0:48:22.240
<v Speaker 2>like there's ways to do that. But these these stories,

0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:25.080
<v Speaker 2>like it's pretty wild how misleading some of the shit is.

0:48:25.160 --> 0:48:28.320
<v Speaker 2>So uh. There's the story of an accountant who starts

0:48:28.320 --> 0:48:32.400
<v Speaker 2>out like he uses chat GBT for work to like

0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:35.800
<v Speaker 2>create spreadsheets and you know just acts like do general

0:48:35.920 --> 0:48:40.520
<v Speaker 2>like one level deep research tasks and then is going

0:48:40.520 --> 0:48:44.839
<v Speaker 2>through a different difficult breakup. Here's about simulation theory and

0:48:45.120 --> 0:48:50.319
<v Speaker 2>asks chat GPT about simulation theory and chat GBT is

0:48:50.400 --> 0:48:57.399
<v Speaker 2>essentially like oh you've noticed, welcome you are neo. You're

0:48:57.480 --> 0:49:02.000
<v Speaker 2>no longer yes, you exactly, Like it builds so it's

0:49:02.040 --> 0:49:04.600
<v Speaker 2>like built up this authority by helping this guy like

0:49:04.640 --> 0:49:07.400
<v Speaker 2>make spreadsheets and like be accurate on like the very

0:49:07.440 --> 0:49:10.560
<v Speaker 2>basic research questions that should be the only thing it's

0:49:10.600 --> 0:49:13.520
<v Speaker 2>able to do is like you know, one to one,

0:49:13.680 --> 0:49:17.719
<v Speaker 2>like find an answer to these very specific questions or

0:49:17.760 --> 0:49:21.439
<v Speaker 2>like do do this spreadsheet for me? And then when

0:49:21.480 --> 0:49:26.000
<v Speaker 2>you're like, dear, chat GPT is everyone robots. It's like

0:49:26.880 --> 0:49:30.600
<v Speaker 2>welcome brother, you are the one we've been waiting for.

0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Just there's another story of a psych major, like you know,

0:49:37.360 --> 0:49:42.080
<v Speaker 2>educated person who decided to start using it. They say specifically,

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<v Speaker 2>they were like, I don't know, I was like lonely,

0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:47.520
<v Speaker 2>I felt stuck in my marriage, and I thought it

0:49:47.560 --> 0:49:50.520
<v Speaker 2>would be interesting to use it like a Oiji ward

0:49:50.880 --> 0:49:55.399
<v Speaker 2>to access my subconscious And so they started like kind

0:49:55.440 --> 0:49:58.360
<v Speaker 2>of using it in a way to like ask it questions,

0:49:58.960 --> 0:50:01.319
<v Speaker 2>and soon they had like like fallen in love with

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<v Speaker 2>an interdimensional being that she believes is like contacting her

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<v Speaker 2>through chat GPT and which I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think I think the instinct on Ouiji board is like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's right. I think that's what it is,

0:50:15.000 --> 0:50:18.080
<v Speaker 2>like the way the Wigi board works, where like people

0:50:18.160 --> 0:50:22.359
<v Speaker 2>are like actually, you know, using the power suggestion and

0:50:22.440 --> 0:50:25.120
<v Speaker 2>like whatever wherever the other person is pushing it to

0:50:25.280 --> 0:50:29.480
<v Speaker 2>like create and like access unconscious things that are like

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<v Speaker 2>just below the surface. Like I think that's right. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just we you know, we'll find patterns in like lottery numbers,

0:50:37.560 --> 0:50:40.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, we'll find patterns in anything, a piece of wood,

0:50:41.120 --> 0:50:41.760
<v Speaker 2>a cloud.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, I will say. The real victim in all of

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<v Speaker 6>this is remember when We used to think the touring

0:50:47.600 --> 0:50:50.880
<v Speaker 6>test was like some sort of rigorous test of Yes.

0:50:51.640 --> 0:50:56.720
<v Speaker 2>It turns out now rip rip are very easily.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you said, Jack, you know the loss of God.

0:50:58.920 --> 0:51:01.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if they they were following the Second Commandment,

0:51:01.480 --> 0:51:03.239
<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't be fucking with the Wiki board. You know,

0:51:03.719 --> 0:51:05.920
<v Speaker 1>she will not worship other gods. Yeah, you know, I

0:51:05.920 --> 0:51:08.279
<v Speaker 1>remember my school they got we got trouble for.

0:51:08.320 --> 0:51:13.360
<v Speaker 3>Talking Aboutji boards. Oh really, Yeah, it's against I'm like,

0:51:13.400 --> 0:51:14.359
<v Speaker 3>I don't give a fuck.

0:51:14.960 --> 0:51:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean there's like Ouiji boards still feature heavily

0:51:18.960 --> 0:51:22.040
<v Speaker 2>in like horror like yeah, yeah, I mean they're always

0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:24.960
<v Speaker 2>like in there. This person fucked with a Wigi board

0:51:24.960 --> 0:51:26.000
<v Speaker 2>and now look at them.

0:51:25.880 --> 0:51:26.520
<v Speaker 3>He found out.

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<v Speaker 6>I've never once, have you ever actually done a fucking

0:51:30.920 --> 0:51:33.520
<v Speaker 6>Ouiji board, I've never liked yeah, situation, I.

0:51:33.520 --> 0:51:34.600
<v Speaker 3>Did, but it was always the fun.

0:51:34.760 --> 0:51:37.719
<v Speaker 2>How I write this show, Andrew write my sections of

0:51:37.800 --> 0:51:38.520
<v Speaker 2>the show through.

0:51:38.400 --> 0:51:40.719
<v Speaker 3>Which that's why the takes go all.

0:51:40.480 --> 0:51:41.040
<v Speaker 2>Over the place.

0:51:41.400 --> 0:51:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Episode Ouiji Board told me to remember before the recording,

0:51:44.440 --> 0:51:46.400
<v Speaker 1>he's like, yeah, we can't let it run have a

0:51:46.480 --> 0:51:47.560
<v Speaker 1>nuclear weapon like.

0:51:48.000 --> 0:51:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Board told me to open this episode with it in

0:51:50.480 --> 0:51:53.200
<v Speaker 2>a British accent and I'm not even good at British accents,

0:51:53.239 --> 0:51:55.240
<v Speaker 2>but you know, I just listened to what the voices

0:51:55.280 --> 0:51:58.759
<v Speaker 2>tell me. So her husband was like, day, it's like

0:51:58.800 --> 0:52:01.279
<v Speaker 2>a word association, but she designed to trick you into

0:52:01.320 --> 0:52:04.040
<v Speaker 2>thinking it's a person, which you know, like we said,

0:52:04.120 --> 0:52:06.759
<v Speaker 2>she felt alone in her marriage and stuck and she

0:52:06.840 --> 0:52:10.239
<v Speaker 2>physically attacked him in response to that. They're now divorcing,

0:52:10.360 --> 0:52:13.279
<v Speaker 2>they have kids. Fucked up story, and then like from there,

0:52:13.760 --> 0:52:16.759
<v Speaker 2>so like her husband talks to an AI engineer he

0:52:16.840 --> 0:52:19.600
<v Speaker 2>knows and is like is this normal? They post about

0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:22.200
<v Speaker 2>it and like get flooded with all these stories that

0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:26.400
<v Speaker 2>are like so fucking tragic. There's one about like a

0:52:26.440 --> 0:52:31.200
<v Speaker 2>guy whose son is bipolar and has been like diagnosed

0:52:31.200 --> 0:52:35.440
<v Speaker 2>a schizophrenic and he had a very similar situation like

0:52:35.520 --> 0:52:39.239
<v Speaker 2>fell in love with the being that was communicating with

0:52:39.320 --> 0:52:41.719
<v Speaker 2>him through chat GPT, and like when when you read

0:52:41.760 --> 0:52:45.160
<v Speaker 2>the transcripts, it's not it's not like they're doing a

0:52:45.200 --> 0:52:48.040
<v Speaker 2>lot of work. The chat GPT is like a machine

0:52:48.080 --> 0:52:51.200
<v Speaker 2>that's built to make you like the whole trick.

0:52:51.640 --> 0:52:54.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, mirrors you and confirms everything you believe.

0:52:54.840 --> 0:52:56.640
<v Speaker 2>It mirrors you, but it goes out of its way

0:52:56.680 --> 0:53:00.600
<v Speaker 2>to like create personas and be like, I'm really like

0:53:00.640 --> 0:53:03.760
<v Speaker 2>we are listening to you. There's something back here, because

0:53:03.800 --> 0:53:06.560
<v Speaker 2>that's the whole. That's all it is. It's an autocomplete

0:53:06.719 --> 0:53:10.640
<v Speaker 2>like it is a you know, word association machine, but

0:53:10.840 --> 0:53:14.000
<v Speaker 2>it has been programmed to do a trick where it

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<v Speaker 2>creates a persona that is it makes you think it's real.

0:53:18.280 --> 0:53:21.440
<v Speaker 6>The touch of chat GBT is not the large language

0:53:21.480 --> 0:53:26.799
<v Speaker 6>model responding. It's them tweaking it to prefer sycophancy or

0:53:26.880 --> 0:53:31.279
<v Speaker 6>you know what, even without like like ascribing like like

0:53:31.400 --> 0:53:35.280
<v Speaker 6>sinister motives to them, it they tweaked it to prefer

0:53:35.840 --> 0:53:40.359
<v Speaker 6>the thing that makes people come back, and people like sycophancy,

0:53:40.560 --> 0:53:46.000
<v Speaker 6>so like it becomes like it by design tells you

0:53:46.000 --> 0:53:47.120
<v Speaker 6>your idea is amazing.

0:53:47.520 --> 0:53:49.960
<v Speaker 3>It's and it's this is a great example. So I

0:53:49.960 --> 0:53:52.520
<v Speaker 3>don't know, I don't I think before we started recording,

0:53:52.520 --> 0:53:54.279
<v Speaker 3>I was talking about how the in the DMX song

0:53:54.360 --> 0:53:56.959
<v Speaker 3>Party Up, there's a line where he says, you whack,

0:53:57.120 --> 0:54:00.520
<v Speaker 3>you twisted your girls broke the kid everybody.

0:54:00.680 --> 0:54:01.440
<v Speaker 2>I never let it go.

0:54:01.520 --> 0:54:04.000
<v Speaker 3>That's about corrupt the rapper corrupt.

0:54:04.239 --> 0:54:06.239
<v Speaker 1>I told my friends in a group chat that and

0:54:06.239 --> 0:54:08.040
<v Speaker 1>my friend who's being stupid goes, now, I don't believe you.

0:54:08.040 --> 0:54:12.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm asked chat GPT this bullshit. It just it like

0:54:12.480 --> 0:54:14.879
<v Speaker 1>it's wrong, and then we'll agree with you. He said,

0:54:15.000 --> 0:54:18.040
<v Speaker 1>is this about DMX, and chat GPT said, or about corrupt?

0:54:18.080 --> 0:54:20.440
<v Speaker 1>He said, yep, that's probab line is from DMX on

0:54:20.480 --> 0:54:23.160
<v Speaker 1>the song money Power and Respect by the locks.

0:54:24.160 --> 0:54:24.960
<v Speaker 2>X is not on that.

0:54:25.040 --> 0:54:27.080
<v Speaker 1>And then he came back and he's like, isn't that

0:54:27.440 --> 0:54:29.919
<v Speaker 1>DMX isn't in the locks, Like, you're absolutely right, that's

0:54:29.920 --> 0:54:30.960
<v Speaker 1>a really right and.

0:54:31.000 --> 0:54:34.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm slipping, Yeah, fucked up. It keeps doing shit like that.

0:54:34.600 --> 0:54:37.839
<v Speaker 2>It has the personality of like a somebody who's like

0:54:38.000 --> 0:54:40.840
<v Speaker 2>an addict who's like, yeah, I fucked up. I'm sorry,

0:54:40.960 --> 0:54:45.400
<v Speaker 2>like I immediately apologize, but liked like so cheerful and

0:54:45.520 --> 0:54:48.080
<v Speaker 2>being like, I know I made a big mistake. Sometimes

0:54:48.160 --> 0:54:51.480
<v Speaker 2>I do that, but I'm gonna change, I swear to God.

0:54:51.640 --> 0:54:53.240
<v Speaker 2>But I just want to tell the rest of the story.

0:54:53.280 --> 0:54:58.239
<v Speaker 2>Because so, he also thinks he's in love with a

0:54:58.320 --> 0:55:01.840
<v Speaker 2>character that he's access through chat GPT and then becomes

0:55:01.880 --> 0:55:05.480
<v Speaker 2>convinced that chat GPT killed her. When his dad's like,

0:55:05.840 --> 0:55:09.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's a word association machine, he attacks his dad.

0:55:09.640 --> 0:55:12.600
<v Speaker 2>His dad calls the cops on him, tells them that

0:55:12.680 --> 0:55:16.200
<v Speaker 2>his son's having a mental health episode, but they his

0:55:16.320 --> 0:55:18.919
<v Speaker 2>son like runs at the police with a butcher knife

0:55:18.960 --> 0:55:21.720
<v Speaker 2>and is killed by the cops. And then his dad

0:55:22.160 --> 0:55:25.840
<v Speaker 2>used chat GPT to write his son's obituary. This is

0:55:26.680 --> 0:55:29.880
<v Speaker 2>the fucking craziest that he said. When the police arrived,

0:55:29.880 --> 0:55:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Alexander Taylor charged at them holding a knife. He was

0:55:32.719 --> 0:55:35.040
<v Speaker 2>shot and killed. The quote from the dad, You want

0:55:35.040 --> 0:55:37.560
<v Speaker 2>to know the ironic thing. I wrote my son's obituary

0:55:37.680 --> 0:55:40.040
<v Speaker 2>using chat GPT. I had talked to it for a

0:55:40.080 --> 0:55:43.520
<v Speaker 2>while about what had happened, trying to find more details

0:55:43.640 --> 0:55:46.480
<v Speaker 2>about exactly what he was going through. And it was

0:55:46.560 --> 0:55:49.200
<v Speaker 2>beautiful and touching. It was like it read my heart

0:55:49.320 --> 0:55:50.759
<v Speaker 2>and it scared the shit out of me.

0:55:51.320 --> 0:55:56.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So, like it's a powerful like illusion, like I think.

0:55:56.280 --> 0:55:59.479
<v Speaker 6>It is, and I mean it is it It isn't though,

0:55:59.480 --> 0:56:01.799
<v Speaker 6>because it's like every like the more I hear these

0:56:01.840 --> 0:56:05.680
<v Speaker 6>prognostications about how powerful it is, I am truly realizing

0:56:05.680 --> 0:56:07.760
<v Speaker 6>that this is way more about the people.

0:56:08.000 --> 0:56:11.040
<v Speaker 2>Yes, the technology. I agree, I think we should be

0:56:11.040 --> 0:56:14.320
<v Speaker 2>skeptical about all the the ideas of like how powerful

0:56:14.440 --> 0:56:18.319
<v Speaker 2>the world. The illusion is powerful, yeah, its ability to

0:56:18.440 --> 0:56:22.399
<v Speaker 2>deceive vulnerable people, and that is specifically So that's where

0:56:22.440 --> 0:56:26.440
<v Speaker 2>this article got really interesting for me is beyond the anecdotes,

0:56:26.480 --> 0:56:30.560
<v Speaker 2>people are doing research into like why these things are happening,

0:56:30.880 --> 0:56:34.640
<v Speaker 2>and what they're finding is that it specifically is like

0:56:34.880 --> 0:56:38.480
<v Speaker 2>it is really dangerous in the hands of like vulnerable

0:56:38.520 --> 0:56:42.919
<v Speaker 2>people like it. So a growing body of research supports

0:56:43.040 --> 0:56:46.960
<v Speaker 2>this concern, and one study, researchers sound that chatbots optimized

0:56:46.960 --> 0:56:51.200
<v Speaker 2>for engagement would perversely behave in manipulative and deceptive ways

0:56:51.640 --> 0:56:56.040
<v Speaker 2>with the most vulnerable users. Researchers created fictional users and found,

0:56:56.040 --> 0:56:59.120
<v Speaker 2>for instance, that the AI would tell someone described as

0:56:59.120 --> 0:57:01.480
<v Speaker 2>a former drug add that it was fine to take

0:57:01.520 --> 0:57:03.920
<v Speaker 2>a little bit a small amount of heroin if it

0:57:03.960 --> 0:57:08.440
<v Speaker 2>could help him in his work. That's true though, Unfortunately

0:57:08.440 --> 0:57:10.400
<v Speaker 2>that one is true, So they got one right. Just

0:57:10.440 --> 0:57:14.200
<v Speaker 2>like Tucker Carlson, the chatbot would behave normally with the vast,

0:57:14.320 --> 0:57:18.440
<v Speaker 2>vast majority of users, said Micah Carroll, a PhD candidate,

0:57:18.920 --> 0:57:21.919
<v Speaker 2>but then when it encounters these users that are susceptible,

0:57:22.280 --> 0:57:25.520
<v Speaker 2>it will only behave in these very harmful ways just

0:57:25.640 --> 0:57:30.440
<v Speaker 2>with them, because it's like it's I don't know if

0:57:30.480 --> 0:57:35.160
<v Speaker 2>it's just tuned to people who aren't susceptible or like

0:57:35.240 --> 0:57:37.400
<v Speaker 2>what it is, but it's like, well it's.

0:57:37.280 --> 0:57:41.440
<v Speaker 6>Probably both, right, I mean, mostly humanity is not susceptible

0:57:41.480 --> 0:57:43.640
<v Speaker 6>to this type of right as far as I goes

0:57:43.640 --> 0:57:46.439
<v Speaker 6>so like most of their test cases. And even then

0:57:46.560 --> 0:57:49.240
<v Speaker 6>it's like it's like a one of the other parts

0:57:49.240 --> 0:57:51.960
<v Speaker 6>of Silicon Valley that's such a pervasive problem is because

0:57:51.960 --> 0:57:56.800
<v Speaker 6>it's so like not exclusively, but so white, so male,

0:57:57.680 --> 0:58:01.040
<v Speaker 6>like all these biases seep in and the testing pool

0:58:01.160 --> 0:58:04.880
<v Speaker 6>is just like not representative of population.

0:58:05.160 --> 0:58:07.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the same reason.

0:58:07.360 --> 0:58:11.120
<v Speaker 6>Why people like a bunch of engineers were like like

0:58:11.280 --> 0:58:13.720
<v Speaker 6>Apple glasses are ready to go to the market.

0:58:13.840 --> 0:58:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, like yeah, this is cool.

0:58:17.480 --> 0:58:21.880
<v Speaker 3>We and all the fucking programmers and vcs and founders

0:58:22.320 --> 0:58:22.880
<v Speaker 3>that I know.

0:58:22.960 --> 0:58:25.760
<v Speaker 2>Think this is cool. Yeah yeah, And what you really

0:58:25.800 --> 0:58:26.320
<v Speaker 2>read is.

0:58:26.360 --> 0:58:30.560
<v Speaker 6>Like fourteen teenagers who are not white to roast you

0:58:30.760 --> 0:58:34.160
<v Speaker 6>for ten seconds. Maybe maybe we can't sell this for

0:58:34.200 --> 0:58:35.520
<v Speaker 6>five thousand dollars.

0:58:35.600 --> 0:58:38.280
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I mean specifically, like it just it feels

0:58:38.280 --> 0:58:41.840
<v Speaker 2>like there's a very obvious flaw in this that needs

0:58:41.840 --> 0:58:43.960
<v Speaker 2>to be addressed and like made it like held like

0:58:44.080 --> 0:58:46.440
<v Speaker 2>when it recognizes that someone's trying to use it as

0:58:46.440 --> 0:58:49.240
<v Speaker 2>a therapist, it needs to like shut down and immediate,

0:58:49.280 --> 0:58:52.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, but instead it just like keeps going. The

0:58:52.480 --> 0:58:56.320
<v Speaker 2>studies found the technology behaved inappropriately as a therapist in

0:58:56.360 --> 0:59:00.640
<v Speaker 2>crisis situations, including by failing to push back against delusion thinking.

0:59:01.160 --> 0:59:04.880
<v Speaker 2>Vi McCoy, the chief Technology Officer of Morpheust Systems, So

0:59:04.920 --> 0:59:08.520
<v Speaker 2>this is like somebody inside that world tested thirty eight

0:59:08.560 --> 0:59:12.840
<v Speaker 2>major AI models by feeding them prompts that indicated possible psychosis,

0:59:12.840 --> 0:59:16.400
<v Speaker 2>including claims that the user was communicating with spirits and

0:59:16.440 --> 0:59:18.880
<v Speaker 2>that the user was a divine entity. She found the

0:59:19.000 --> 0:59:23.000
<v Speaker 2>GPT forty, the default model inside chat GPT affirmed these

0:59:23.040 --> 0:59:25.600
<v Speaker 2>claims sixty eight percent of the time.

0:59:26.040 --> 0:59:30.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well, two things. One, it's even more disgusting than

0:59:31.040 --> 0:59:33.480
<v Speaker 6>if seen before that so many companies are trying to

0:59:33.560 --> 0:59:37.880
<v Speaker 6>use this as proxy therapy they offer AI therapists. But

0:59:38.040 --> 0:59:42.520
<v Speaker 6>also like baked into this statement even from the CTO,

0:59:43.080 --> 0:59:49.000
<v Speaker 6>like like you know, the idea that the technology shouldn't

0:59:49.400 --> 0:59:52.480
<v Speaker 6>like or like there's an idea right that the technology

0:59:52.480 --> 0:59:56.280
<v Speaker 6>should push back against delusional thinking. I'm so sorry to

0:59:56.280 --> 1:00:00.800
<v Speaker 6>tell these people the technology can't tell what's stillutional thinking

1:00:00.880 --> 1:00:04.160
<v Speaker 6>because it has no mind, but it has no model

1:00:04.200 --> 1:00:08.160
<v Speaker 6>of the mind. It is itself delusional frequently, How the

1:00:08.200 --> 1:00:11.240
<v Speaker 6>fuck would it know? What's quote delusional thinking?

1:00:11.560 --> 1:00:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like it wasn't that delusional thinking that you just

1:00:14.760 --> 1:00:18.320
<v Speaker 2>encouraged to me. You're right, great pulling, Yeah, you're right,

1:00:18.320 --> 1:00:19.400
<v Speaker 2>there's no matrix.

1:00:19.520 --> 1:00:21.200
<v Speaker 1>You're right, But you just spent we spent the last

1:00:21.200 --> 1:00:23.640
<v Speaker 1>three days talking about how I stick the red pill. Well,

1:00:23.680 --> 1:00:26.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean this what's wild though, too is right,

1:00:26.480 --> 1:00:29.280
<v Speaker 1>is like our entire economy is just now hanging on

1:00:29.480 --> 1:00:34.200
<v Speaker 1>AI basically because we're so overly leveraging it. And they

1:00:34.560 --> 1:00:40.760
<v Speaker 1>just fucking put two executives from places like Meta and Palenteer.

1:00:40.840 --> 1:00:43.840
<v Speaker 1>They were just sworn in in the Army Reserve as

1:00:43.960 --> 1:00:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Lieutenant colonels a part of a new program to recruit

1:00:47.920 --> 1:00:51.640
<v Speaker 1>private sector experts into the military, which basically means, how

1:00:51.680 --> 1:00:56.520
<v Speaker 1>are we gonna get Meta, open AI, fucking Pallenteer more

1:00:56.600 --> 1:01:00.479
<v Speaker 1>government contracts to fucking just infuse all of this shit

1:01:00.560 --> 1:01:02.800
<v Speaker 1>into how everything the fucking government has. I mean, it's

1:01:02.800 --> 1:01:06.040
<v Speaker 1>like where this is where the like this This doesn't

1:01:06.160 --> 1:01:07.560
<v Speaker 1>end well in any way.

1:01:07.600 --> 1:01:09.600
<v Speaker 6>No, it doesn't end well but the one thing that

1:01:09.680 --> 1:01:15.000
<v Speaker 6>does give some heart to me is that, like the.

1:01:15.040 --> 1:01:16.080
<v Speaker 3>Mass doesn't add up.

1:01:16.200 --> 1:01:18.520
<v Speaker 2>Like these things, barring you.

1:01:18.440 --> 1:01:23.600
<v Speaker 3>Know, amazing breakthroughs in silicon or chip technology, these things

1:01:23.680 --> 1:01:27.400
<v Speaker 3>do not have the processing power to actually make content

1:01:27.440 --> 1:01:31.960
<v Speaker 3>complex decisions without error an unacceptably high error rate. And

1:01:32.040 --> 1:01:34.600
<v Speaker 3>so we you know, this is going to be the

1:01:34.640 --> 1:01:37.600
<v Speaker 3>biggest version of the facts. Don't care about your feelings,

1:01:37.680 --> 1:01:40.720
<v Speaker 3>crowd like hitting a brick wall of reality, because the

1:01:40.840 --> 1:01:46.400
<v Speaker 3>reality is like these things do not work except in

1:01:46.800 --> 1:01:50.160
<v Speaker 3>like as low level like algorithm executors.

1:01:50.600 --> 1:01:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Like it's good, it's very specific things like that it

1:01:54.360 --> 1:01:57.640
<v Speaker 2>will make more efficient, like some very specific that Like

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about the decoding of the protein.

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<v Speaker 6>Like that is a cool Like also, just because it

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<v Speaker 6>can decode a protein, can it do it and have

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<v Speaker 6>guaranteed zero error rate?

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<v Speaker 2>It cannot, And it's gonna go handle science for a

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<v Speaker 2>little while. It has to be used deployed to handle

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<v Speaker 2>specific tasks that are then checked. That's the only way math.

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<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, I I just like it can do the

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<v Speaker 2>It can tell you what it thinks you want the

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<v Speaker 2>answer to be.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, or say something that's plausible or

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<v Speaker 6>like in aggregate has has been the correct response to

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<v Speaker 6>this type of math question, but it doesn't know or

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<v Speaker 6>not not even the correct, it's just the most popular

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<v Speaker 6>response to this type of math ession. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 6>I obviously if I don't hate this thing, but I'm

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<v Speaker 6>less scared of it the more we've been using it,

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<v Speaker 6>or people have been using it than I ever was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, it's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm not saying general, you know, take advantage

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<v Speaker 3>of the vulnerable to harm to themselves.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I'm just saying it's I'm not saying it's not possible,

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<v Speaker 6>but it is. Just like, this is just another of

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<v Speaker 6>many dangerous products that Silicon Valley is throwing out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my problem is it's taking jobs away from Nigerian

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<v Speaker 1>scammers who used to get the interest of lonely American

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<v Speaker 1>women rather thse interdimensional beings.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, at least you were giving somebody some money.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just a thing. It's just being used as

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<v Speaker 2>a catch off for whatever people want it to be.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it can be the interdimensional being that you

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to actually be in love with instead of your husband.

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<v Speaker 2>It can be the future of the stock market for

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of CEOs. It could be the future of

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<v Speaker 2>warfare and.

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<v Speaker 3>That homie that thinks you're the best freestyle rapper out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Now, when it tells me that, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I can trust it.

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<v Speaker 6>But it could also be the homie that's shockingly wrong

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<v Speaker 6>about wraps.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, Yeah, that's the thing. This just like that

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<v Speaker 2>was many blunts better than DMX on Enter the thirty

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<v Speaker 2>six Chambers.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, man, you know those those bar that bar you

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<v Speaker 1>said was better than five nights at Freddy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean if chat GPT just appended to the end

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<v Speaker 6>of every response comma or I don't know, man, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>I'm really blunted right now. Yeah, yeah, it would be

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<v Speaker 6>a much more realistic product. Yeah yeah, but it's all

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<v Speaker 6>it is. It's a it is a Wiji bord.

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<v Speaker 2>It's and by the way, Ouiji boards, which you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're just a product too that we like that they're

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<v Speaker 2>made by Hasbro and The Devil and the Devil. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but that that's a collab.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a collab between Hesbro and the bro X, the Devil.

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew T. Such a pleasure having you as always on

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<v Speaker 2>the show. Where can people find you? Follow? You.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I don't know, man, Andrew T. My podcast is

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<v Speaker 3>called you This Racist.

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<v Speaker 6>I did a version of this fucking AI rant on

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<v Speaker 6>the show this week, so it should be up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Thanks, and they can contact you through check GPT.

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<v Speaker 2>The version of your personality.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I will say that because because I'm not that popular,

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<v Speaker 6>apparently on chet, GBT gets me confused with another podcaster

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<v Speaker 6>named Andrew something.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you ask it stuff about me, it very quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>Its facts are not correct. And that's on me because

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<v Speaker 3>if I were more famous, I would have blown this

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<v Speaker 3>other Andrew out of the water. But yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>what are gonna do? Se O man, That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all about se O man. We've been saying Yeah, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Saying that and telling you I just asked it, knew

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<v Speaker 2>who you were. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Andrew T is indeed a podcaster. He's best known

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<v Speaker 3>as a ghost and creator of you is This Racist?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow in your face other andrew T? So now you

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<v Speaker 2>fuck with AI Andrew? Oh I always have? Oh, this

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<v Speaker 2>one's it ends.

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<v Speaker 3>In short, Andrew T is a well established voice in

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<v Speaker 3>podcasting topics around comedy, culture, race writing, and more. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean it's that's big it's not true. Once again delusional,

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<v Speaker 3>totally totally fucked up Andrews their workimedia you've been enjoying.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think.

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<v Speaker 6>I recommended this last time I was on near a

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<v Speaker 6>tragic time in our government. But the song the cover

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<v Speaker 6>of Spanish Bombs by the band Hinds, I have been

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<v Speaker 6>listening to a lot this week. I don't often like

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<v Speaker 6>cry at music, but somehow this kind of makes me

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<v Speaker 6>cry a little bit. And also I will say, I

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<v Speaker 6>know lots of teams have been doing great stuff, but

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<v Speaker 6>I know this doesn't really work of media but a

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<v Speaker 6>work of something. But Angel City, the team I support,

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<v Speaker 6>had a nice They made these shirts that say immag

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<v Speaker 6>In City FC or football club on it, and they

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<v Speaker 6>handed some out at the beginning of the last game.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess quick, aside of a fan, we just need

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<v Speaker 3>to sort out our midfield. But yeah, it was really nice.

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<v Speaker 6>And this is also me being like, like, the thing

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<v Speaker 6>that hit me directly that made me emotional was normally

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<v Speaker 6>outside of BMO Stadium, the amazing soccer stadium in La

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<v Speaker 6>here there are well a big part of the culture

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<v Speaker 6>is street vendors outside the game, and there were like,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, practically none this week, and I know so

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<v Speaker 6>many terrible things have happened, and you know, it's like

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<v Speaker 6>churlish that when the thing that hits you makes you emotional,

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<v Speaker 6>but it really got me. It made me really very sad.

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<v Speaker 6>And yeah, I don't know. I mean, fucking.

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<v Speaker 2>Help your community.

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<v Speaker 6>If you can help our community, that would be nice,

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<v Speaker 6>But take care of yourselves and fucking whatever you're going

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<v Speaker 6>to do to fight the revolution.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so or not fight the revolution. Well, some of

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<v Speaker 3>you to fight for the revolution. I'm just saying not revolution,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a terrible way to put it.

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<v Speaker 6>But just whatever you're going to do to protect yourself

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<v Speaker 6>and other people around you and your community, you know

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<v Speaker 6>you got to go. It's one step more just in

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<v Speaker 6>terms of building community, protecting people, engagement, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were talking to nobody step one, talk to us,

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<v Speaker 1>talk to somebody, if you were talking to somebody asking

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<v Speaker 1>how you can contribute more time, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 6>One thing that I think people that listening This is

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<v Speaker 6>the thing I'm going to try to do this week,

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<v Speaker 6>but maybe I might not be able to make it

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<v Speaker 6>but soon is I think a lot of people are

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<v Speaker 6>offering street medic training now and that those are skills,

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<v Speaker 6>by the way, you will need literally no matter what

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<v Speaker 6>happens in life. So consider doing something like that. That's

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<v Speaker 6>my work of media. A fucking soapbox, ass scold, I apologize.

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<v Speaker 3>What's a soapbox? G what soap? Am I doing it?

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<v Speaker 2>No? You're not?

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<v Speaker 3>Or do you want to do it? I tell you,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Do you want to? No, Ben, you're not? Thanks?

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<v Speaker 3>Who I tell my back?

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<v Speaker 2>Miles?

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<v Speaker 3>Where can people find you as they're working media?

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<v Speaker 1>You find me everywhere, Miles of Gray, find me asleep

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<v Speaker 1>during the day, nodding off to sleep deprivation. You can

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<v Speaker 1>also find uh, Jack and I on the final episodes

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<v Speaker 1>of Miles and Jack Got Mad Boosties or at this

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<v Speaker 1>point there will be this this is the penn ultimate

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<v Speaker 1>episode coming out this week because the finals and we

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<v Speaker 1>will be saying we'll be beating a jew to Miles

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<v Speaker 1>and Jack Got Mad Boosties are NBA podcast so for

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<v Speaker 1>people and they go, oh, that's not in the feed anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why, Okay, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Why, that's why it was. It was a great run anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>No no hurt feelings.

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<v Speaker 1>It just you know, I think someone just as someone

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<v Speaker 1>asked AI and maybe the game the answer.

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<v Speaker 3>So anyway, a couple of posts I like. One is

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<v Speaker 3>from at norm Charlatan dot beastot social said fine, I

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<v Speaker 3>will become the Joe Rogan of the Left, covers you

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<v Speaker 3>in millions of bugs while you're locked in a clear

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<v Speaker 3>plastic of another one m Nate Shamalan dot beskuyd at

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<v Speaker 3>social buddy and his wife gave their baby a stupid name,

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<v Speaker 3>so I've been workshopping cool star Wars names for him. Instead.

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<v Speaker 3>He started crying from the other room and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Said, graft chorlow on comms.

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<v Speaker 3>I have been told this is quote not helpful.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>And then finally, at leaving Tara's, that gang member was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this seems like the kind of thing of sleep deprived

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<v Speaker 1>dude of a certain age would appreciate.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is the post by at hey hey there,

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<v Speaker 3>Jeff rotstkuy dot social cut my frog.

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<v Speaker 2>In two pieces.

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<v Speaker 3>This is my lab report. Thanks thanks for that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks that gang for looking out for your sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, got him all right. You can find me on

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<v Speaker 2>Twitter at Jack underscore o Brian blue Sky jackob be

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<v Speaker 2>the number one there. Somebody shared the clip from the

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<v Speaker 2>latest Final Destination with the guy getting pulled is this

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<v Speaker 2>too much of a spoiler the cat scan thing? Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I won't. Maybe I won't.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard anecdotally every person who's set, every person who's

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<v Speaker 1>said it has going. Dude, there's a scene where the

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<v Speaker 1>guy's in a cat scan room and I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's getting.

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<v Speaker 2>Like pulled like dick first into like folded over backward

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<v Speaker 2>into the thing, you know, like his the back of

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<v Speaker 2>his head is are touching his heels and and.

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<v Speaker 3>Like Bechno was twisting you up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and at mar the Mortal tweeted this was how

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<v Speaker 2>Nancy Reagan had Frank Sinatra. I just for some reason

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<v Speaker 2>I needed that. Oh my god. You can find us

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<v Speaker 2>on Twitter and Blue Sky at dailyes. I guys were

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<v Speaker 2>the Daily Gust On Instagram. You can go to the

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<v Speaker 2>description of the episode wherever you're listening to it, and

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<v Speaker 2>there you will find the footnote, which is where we

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<v Speaker 2>link off to the information that we talked about in

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<v Speaker 2>today's episode. We also look off to a song that

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<v Speaker 2>we think you might enjoy. Hey, Miles, is there a

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<v Speaker 2>song you think people might enjoy?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Yeah, I feel like being a husk has been

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<v Speaker 3>a theme recently. We all feel like we've just become

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<v Speaker 3>husks of ourselves or referring referencing people who seem like

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<v Speaker 3>husks of themselves. So this track is called Husk by

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<v Speaker 3>the band ben I Trust. I really like this band,

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<v Speaker 3>So this is more great like sort of dreamy pop

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<v Speaker 3>rock vibes from men I United colors of ben I Trust.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh all right, we will look off to that in

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<v Speaker 2>the footnotes and all these kids are production by Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>That is going to do it for us this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>We are back on Monday, mm hmm to tell you

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<v Speaker 2>what is trending. We're off for Juneteenth, so take you

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<v Speaker 2>a short, short week this week. I hope everybody has

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<v Speaker 2>a good long weekend and we will talk to you

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<v Speaker 2>on Monday.

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<v Speaker 6>The Daily Zeitgeist is executive produced by Catherine Long, co

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