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Speaker 1: Hi. I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationships and

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Speaker 1: what it's like to be siblings.

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Speaker 2: We are a sibling raivalry.

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Speaker 1: No, no, sibling. You don't do that with your mouth, Vely,

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Speaker 1: that's good. Hi you guys. Happy Mother's Day.

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Speaker 3: Podcast, Happy podcast mothers.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited that I get to talk to my

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Speaker 1: sister in laws for our me too. Oliver is on

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Speaker 1: his boat fishing, surprise, surprise, and I get to have

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Speaker 1: these girls, gorgeous ladies. Favor little trio you get.

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Speaker 4: I know we're a trio. We get, we get you.

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Speaker 4: The listeners get Aaron, who is my maybe my therapist.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, that's all that's a disaster. I'm so sure

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Speaker 1: that you're good. I'm Aaron's the best listener, right, don't

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Speaker 1: you think you're like the perfect listener?

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Speaker 5: Definitely a good listener. I feel like I'm kind of

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Speaker 5: everybody's go to therapists.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you listen and you and you don't like fix,

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Speaker 1: meaning like you're not interested in like, okay, this is

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Speaker 1: I'm I have to like fix that. I'm a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a fixer.

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Speaker 5: Though, you think at least always said don't try and

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Speaker 5: fix it, just listen. I feel like I can be

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Speaker 5: if somebody wants it, maybe if they don't want interesting,

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Speaker 5: but you're.

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Speaker 4: Always positive about it, like it's like okay.

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Speaker 6: Like I could be like, I have a rash that's

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Speaker 6: gone from my scalp to my vagina, and Aaron's like, okay,

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Speaker 6: we're to figure this out, like you're terrible rash, very

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Speaker 6: like okay, I haven't actually had that, but I'm just

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Speaker 6: a mephorical example of an emotional rash. Like you would

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Speaker 6: be like, okay, we've got this one thousand percent.

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Speaker 4: Okay. It's always we're always fixing.

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Speaker 5: I'm very good at helping others, not really maybe taking

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Speaker 5: my own personal advice.

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Speaker 1: No, that's true. I always feel like it's like with Aaron,

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Speaker 1: it's it's like soothing. Yeah, it's like the South, very neutral.

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Speaker 1: I see both sides.

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Speaker 5: I'm very much uh okay, well let's look at it

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Speaker 5: from their point of view.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like no, no, no.

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Speaker 5: This one over here with her opinions. I wish I

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Speaker 5: had strong hands like that.

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Speaker 6: The other day, you were like such a cheerleader for me,

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Speaker 6: and I was like shacked up off it.

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Speaker 4: I was, God, I know, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Her mo speed. I was like, I was like my dad.

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Speaker 1: I was like paw and miracle. I was like, it's

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Speaker 1: your speech. It's come to me for the calming speech.

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Speaker 1: Come to cap for the fucking what do you come

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Speaker 1: to me for about Yes to feet, like, yeah, you're

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Speaker 1: a cheerleader, the best cheerleader, You're the always you. You

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Speaker 1: always make me feel like I've contributed enough, meaning like that,

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Speaker 1: like I like you make me. You remind me that

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Speaker 1: I have made some contribution in the world, like when

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Speaker 1: I need to feel that, you know what it's like.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's like in soap Dish when Whoopy Goldberg

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Speaker 1: takes Sally Field to the mall because she's feeling down,

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Speaker 1: and she takes you to the mall, and it's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, just so she can get noticed. That's how

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Speaker 1: I feel like I always doing done. You'd be like,

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Speaker 1: come on, we're going to the mall. We're not shopping.

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Speaker 4: God shit, babe, deal with it.

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Speaker 5: I feel like Mayor the mall is very positive and

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Speaker 5: girl like supportive vibes always best compliments, like you feel

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Speaker 5: like a million dollars.

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Speaker 4: As people, so like I will shout it from the.

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Speaker 1: Also, I feel like I feel like mayor you there's

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Speaker 1: like Aaron, you feel like it's very soothing and like okay, right,

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Speaker 1: like you're like Switzerland, definitely, you know where is whereas Meredith.

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Speaker 1: Meredith's perspective makes me makes not only it feels seen,

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Speaker 1: but makes me like laugh. Yes, right, there's always a

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Speaker 1: little touch of humor. Yeah, there's sort of like the

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Speaker 1: realistic if it's like family drama or whatever, it's like

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Speaker 1: you just know how to lean into the comedy of it.

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Speaker 6: How we now we're all close enough where like I

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Speaker 6: do love there is that moment that's so sweet. I

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Speaker 6: I was like, oh my god, Like if all goes well,

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Speaker 6: we'll get to like the old ladies together. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 6: because it's already been God that we've all like you

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Speaker 6: were a part of the family for a long time, Aaron.

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Speaker 1: But thank god you came along.

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Speaker 6: Like there's moments you're not in and alone, we catch

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Speaker 6: and it's just like I know that this is like

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Speaker 5: It's crazy I mean, if you think about it, we're

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Speaker 5: dating Kate's two brothers.

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Speaker 1: Dating married married sorry it's married to.

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Speaker 5: But I was thinking when we first started, you know, dating,

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Speaker 5: you were like and you'd be protective.

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Speaker 1: It's like, this is these are my brothers, Like you know,

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Speaker 5: Family, who are they with, like all of that kind

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Speaker 5: of stuff, which is important. You know, you think about

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Speaker 5: it because you're like, have high standards.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I definitely not that hit the jackpot. Well yes,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know you're like you go in kind

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Speaker 1: to I feel like it was super easy when we

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Speaker 5: It was yes, okay, first birthday, you're starting to date, Chris,

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Speaker 5: Allie and I were not together yet. No, that's why

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Speaker 5: we met in the kitchen your parents house now Jackie

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Speaker 5: and Adam's house, and you were on the phone and

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Speaker 5: put him on speakerphone, and Allie and I had walked

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Speaker 5: in the kitchen, just friends.

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Speaker 1: And she was like, Ollie, like this is my new boyfriend,

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Speaker 5: Hours literally, and there's Chris Robinson on the phone like

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Speaker 1: She's like yeah, and it was her twenty first birthday.

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Speaker 1: And then I walk in.

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Speaker 5: You guys had a band going, okay, Vanessa was like

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Speaker 5: on the bongo drums.

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Speaker 1: Boston, You're singing, Allie singing.

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Speaker 5: It was like a whole vibe and Vanessa was like stunning, beautiful,

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Speaker 5: And I don't even sing to myself in the shower

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Speaker 5: Thought, okay, this is we're gonna be friends. You're just

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Speaker 5: broke up and you know what was the bath story?

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Speaker 1: So that was Oliver and I.

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Speaker 5: Your parents were out of town, you were maybe home, yeah,

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Speaker 5: like still this is like your childhood home. And we

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Speaker 5: had decided to have like a date night at his

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Speaker 1: So we had like.

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Speaker 5: God, I remember, and it's a gorgeous tub with like

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Speaker 5: there literally candles lit. It's probably like Arley has like

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Speaker 5: R and B music playing like you name it.

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Speaker 1: It's like a vibe. And Kate's like kno, knock, knock,

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, can I come in? And I'm like trying

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Speaker 5: So Chris and no No, But it was like stories

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Speaker 5: I gonna like get out with her here?

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Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna be naked in front of her? What's happening?

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Speaker 5: Cut to I Like the next time I see her,

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Speaker 5: I'm in the shower at Ally's okay, like taking your shower.

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Speaker 5: She comes in and sits down to go pee.

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Speaker 1: About your talking to me? Well, I'm in the shower

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Speaker 1: naked and I'm like, hey, like so classic, and she's

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, She's like.

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Speaker 1: Are your boobs real? Oh my god, let me.

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Speaker 4: See you showed me your boobs, like.

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Speaker 1: My real boobs? Back again, Aaron or me?

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Speaker 4: Aaron? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I did?

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Speaker 4: How we got around?

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Speaker 5: I think I got a little more comfort around.

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Speaker 1: But bro was My introduction to Kate was just like

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Speaker 1: peeing in front of you, inspecting my naked body.

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Speaker 5: Wanted to get in the tub, telling me your whole

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Speaker 5: I want to be more like this person because I

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Speaker 1: You're not shy. I mean you get a couple like

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Speaker 1: who is this person? For Mother's Day? First? That will

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Speaker 1: be another podcast. First time we met mayor was I

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Speaker 4: The first time I met Kate was different. The first

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Speaker 1: Am I forgetting this.

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Speaker 4: Time I met you? Kate is a classic story.

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Speaker 1: It's a great one.

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Speaker 6: So I had met the family everybody else I don't.

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Speaker 6: I think you were working at Aaron and Ali's house

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Speaker 6: and I was so nervous whatever.

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Speaker 4: We had dinner, and I was just like holding my

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Speaker 4: breathled I'm like, oh my god, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: But it was amazing, but it was awkward.

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Speaker 5: It was like me all a goldie Kurt and you

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Speaker 5: and why I come into my house and everyone's.

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Speaker 1: Like, hey, you know there she is so cute.

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Speaker 1: And immediately I was like, oh my god, I feel

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Speaker 1: We're going to make this.

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Speaker 4: Great, so sweet, and I was just like she's.

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Speaker 6: But everyone was so great, and I was like why,

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Speaker 6: I just like shut down, Like I remember, he wasn't

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Speaker 4: He just was like he had he turned into.

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Speaker 1: Like through it. He's like, let's see how she handles.

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Speaker 6: Like he turned into like a sixteen year old boy.

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Speaker 6: And I was like, oh, hot dog shirt on. And

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Speaker 6: then those like straight guy jock like mesh long shorts.

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Speaker 6: I don't know where he got them. I think he

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Speaker 1: I was just gonna say so, And I had.

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Speaker 6: Like a candle and then I wrapped it in twine

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Speaker 5: And it was just like she just breezed in talking,

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Speaker 5: It's so interesting the kids and you know, travels and

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Speaker 5: think you're Julia Roberts. You know, walk into a family

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Speaker 1: And they're like, oh, you're you're girl number one on CSI,

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Speaker 5: And I would be embarrassed to even like say anything,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they were sort of like, you know, the energy,

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Speaker 5: No, they were like hosting parties, coming home from parties,

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Speaker 5: There was a whole like surprise party and all that

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Speaker 5: Okay, So I met Wyat when he was thirteen, So

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Speaker 5: You would think it would be so intimidating, and you were,

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Speaker 6: What about you? Mayor It wasn't anything to do with

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Speaker 6: Another thing that I really respect too, which is just

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Speaker 4: You were just like I've I.

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Speaker 6: Was like, come here, it's funny with your family. For me,

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Speaker 6: It was almost like two with my friend dating somebody or.

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Speaker 4: Like I'd be like, oh my god, it's who.

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Speaker 4: That we all know, that feeling of just well, you're still.

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Speaker 5: Meeting in laws, You're meeting in laws and sister, no

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Speaker 1: What I mean, like just anybody. Yeah, but I mean

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Speaker 1: was what?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 1: Who was the first person that you felt like the

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Speaker 7: Yeah, oh yeah, I mean well, first of all, we

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Speaker 5: But you're also it's like, okay, wait, you're the sister

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Speaker 1: Give me the fucking down. I was like, old, let

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Speaker 2: Are this is what Thanksgiving is going to look.

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Speaker 5: Be prepared for this and and honestly, be prepared for

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Speaker 5: was you have the best like presence and energy. Everybody

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00:23:55,080 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 5: fell in love with you in literally three seconds. And

442
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 5: also everybody saw how in love you were, Like why it.

443
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: Was with you?

444
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 5: I haven't you guys are different, you know what I mean?

445
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 5: Like me and Ollie, he was still so young. We're dating,

446
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 5: You're traveling the world, like why it's off playing hockey?

447
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, Mom live up to after.

448
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: I remember when my mom told me that you and

449
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: Wyatt met why his new girlfriend, and I was like, oh,

450
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 1: what's her name? She's an actress? And you know, I'm

451
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: like oh, And I remember googling you and the picture

452
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: that came up on a boat. The picture that came

453
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: up was one that later Meredith told me about because

454
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 1: she had gotten this spray tan and I remember looking

455
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: at this picture and I was going like, okay, okay,

456
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: she looks like and I was like, all right, like

457
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: it's you know, she's really cute. She's a little like

458
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: it's a very rang orange strong tanner.

459
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 6: And felt like I thought I looked so hot that

460
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 6: night that I s I was like.

461
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Speaker 1: I love that. When I when I had to like

462
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: go and try to find it, like those were the

463
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: pictures that came up, and it was like, oh god,

464
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 1: it just that was my favorite thing ever. Okay, mothers,

465
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: let's talk about being mommies. Now years go by, we

466
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: are now all family, which people sometimes are like your family,

467
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 1: your sister in laws. It's so crazy because you guys

468
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 1: all look like sisters, look like sisters and special. I'd

469
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 1: love to get into like some mothers, some like you know,

470
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 1: some some parenting.

471
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 4: Style, let's do it.

472
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 1: I feel like we all have very different parenting styles.

473
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Speaker 6: I feel like I'm still new enough as a mom

474
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 6: where I'm like, is this a style?

475
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: I am?

476
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,479
Speaker 4: What's the style here?

477
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Speaker 5: I just survival survival happiness is. Kate was like, I

478
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 5: don't even know what were you when you had Rider

479
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 5: twenty four? Yeah, so literally a baby having a baby.

480
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 5: But what's interesting is you and I had our babies

481
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 5: kind of right together, so you're thrown into this like

482
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 5: toddler and a newborn and the craziness. And Kate like

483
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 5: elegantly had these like seven years apart, so she was

484
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 5: like a different mom to each kid.

485
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,360
Speaker 4: That's such a cool way of looking at it.

486
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 5: It's so cool and like the evolution of who you've

487
00:26:54,760 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 5: become as a mother is so amazing. And I think

488
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 5: that's the beauty of it, you know, because sometimes you're like,

489
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 5: do you have.

490
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: Babies close together? It's good for the kids, ba ba bah.

491
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: But again my positive outlook on at all interesting.

492
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, each kid, I mean, you know had this like

493
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 5: kind of real one on one time, which is beautiful.

494
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: And you got to evolve.

495
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 5: I mean you were in your twenties with Rider, literally

496
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 5: your thirties basically with Bang and Ronnie you know now

497
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 5: in forties. But also just the evolution of what you

498
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 5: learn from each kid, what changes in the world of parenting,

499
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 5: and then also just having the two boys and then.

500
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: Getting the girl which we both have, which we.

501
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 5: Both have, and we're gonna we're gonna manifest the little

502
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 5: baby girl.

503
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: So we have the two boys and the girls family so.

504
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 4: Well obviously probably have a boy. So we'll just we're gonna.

505
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: But I do think if you look back, that's what

506
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 1: I said. And you know, it was time to find

507
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: out what it was. I was like, it's fine if

508
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 1: it's a boy. And then I was like, no, it's

509
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 1: not the same thing. I like pregnant. I'm like, wait

510
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: a minute, if this is a boy, it actually I'll

511
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: have a moment of tears, tears like I will. And

512
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: then if the course you love it, it's like, yeah,

513
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 1: like you love the baby. You know, five boys and

514
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: be hit me. Like two months into my pregnancy, I

515
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: was like, oh.

516
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 5: So mine hit is another boy. So we went for

517
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 5: the third. You know our story, like the first two

518
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 5: we didn't try. It was just very lucky. It got

519
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 5: pregnant third one, and I was like, I'm going to

520
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 5: be forty are we doing this?

521
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: Should wait? Blah blah blah, Let's go for it. Did

522
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: a few like things to try, you know, time of

523
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: the month and this and that whatever, and.

524
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Speaker 5: My doctor was like, just make sure you want a

525
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 5: third kid, actually think about having a boy. Do you

526
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 5: want three boys? And I was like, I actually do

527
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 5: because I like being a boy. Mom, you're the only

528
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 5: want girl.

529
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: Like, it's just great.

530
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 5: I was like, okay, he goes, because I don't care

531
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Speaker 5: what you do and what you try, you're you know

532
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 5: what I mean, there's a very good chance you're gonna

533
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 5: have a third boy.

534
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: Don't do this because you want the girl. And I

535
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, no, not at all.

536
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 5: And then I thought to myself, I really want a

537
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 5: girl for Allie, okay, because like, I'm so close with

538
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 5: my dad.

539
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: I think he would be such an amazing girl. Dad

540
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: this and that. That's when it started to creep up.

541
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 5: So I was like, it's just a little thought in

542
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 5: the back of my head, but I was prepared for

543
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 5: the boy. I remember I peed on the stick to

544
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 5: see if I was pregnant. The two lines popped up,

545
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 5: and I was like.

546
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: Oh fuck, I hope it's a girl. I had this

547
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: like wave of emotion.

548
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 5: Oh my god, it's already done, like we already, it's happened,

549
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,719
Speaker 5: it's it's figured out, it's already done.

550
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: There's nothing else I can do. And it was in

551
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: that first real wave where I admitted to myself.

552
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh my god, I kind of My doctor was right,

553
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 5: I'll be devastating. And I told him and I was like,

554
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 5: it worked, and he goes, did it didn't really?

555
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: He's like, you never know.

556
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 5: He's like, you can think it did, and he's like,

557
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 5: but really is that just left to nature?

558
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: But but it's so funny because like our parents, I think

559
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: our parenting styles are very different to go back to

560
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: like oh yeah, you know, sure, And but Aaron and

561
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: I have a very similar thing, which is we're super

562
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: anxious when it comes to the kids doing it. Like

563
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: Aaron and I like when they were like bmxing, we'd

564
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: we would.

565
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 5: Like hide in each other's necks, like don't look, don't look,

566
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 5: oh god.

567
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: Dirt bike skateboarding. Like it's like I go into the kitchen,

568
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: We're just like, okay, I have to leave this area,

569
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: make a martini, and yeah, try to ignore that they're

570
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: doing things that are always.

571
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 5: Said that, like she has the musical kids, and I

572
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 5: was like, I just want my boys to like play

573
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 5: an instrument and be in a band because.

574
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: They're gonna be nice and safe playing the clarinet instead

575
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, they're like doing office trail.

576
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 4: I mean, Aaron playing the clarinet.

577
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: Oh god, but you get what you're like supposed to have.

578
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: But Mayor, like, you know, then I see Mayor with

579
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: her kids and they're like, you know, like climbing up

580
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: the bed and they're like climbing on the concrete.

581
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 4: Just constant mental mathematics and this might be fun. So

582
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 4: my thing is can you die from this?

583
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 6: And if the answer is yes, I get fucking so anxious.

584
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 6: So like I get really anxious about like car seats.

585
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 6: I get anxious about pools. I can't even anyone want

586
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 6: to buy a house with the pool. I get crazy

587
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 6: if I can only if my brain goes to broken bone,

588
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 6: twisted ankle, splinter.

589
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: All if there's a splinter, we're out.

590
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 5: You.

591
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: I like, what wrong?

592
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 4: I know, like back can happen.

593
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 6: I am like I will wake up in the middle

594
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 6: of then I panicked, like choking, like batteries, blueberries, popcorn,

595
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 6: like the things that pop it in my head.

596
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 4: But I just yeah, I don't I.

597
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,719
Speaker 1: Don't know that. I was really proud of myself as

598
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: a sister in law because I literally I just showed

599
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:28,959
Speaker 1: Aaron this video of me like bird feeding Ronnie and

600
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: I was eating, well really she was eating from my mouth,

601
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: which was even funnier because I'm amazating my food and

602
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: she was just going right like a monk, like a monkey.

603
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: She's going right into my mouth, taking my food and

604
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: eating it from my mouth. And I was like, this

605
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: is very this is this is kind of gross. But

606
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: I literally like bird fed my kids. I mushed everything.

607
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 5: You haven't choking. We all have our triggers choking. The

608
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,959
Speaker 5: biggest one is the choky, but yeah, it does that.

609
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: You do the self, the baby livating, and I literally

610
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: like my court is all level roll level, like I

611
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: can't be back like Booney. I'm like, oh my god,

612
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: I can piece of chicken or something. And I had

613
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: Boon in my arms of the.

614
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 6: Day and he anxiously around like the area, and I'm like, well.

615
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: I don't. Everyone everybody has their own thing and right,

616
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: but then like Bood, I was with Boon by myself

617
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: like don't you want to try then? And he was like,

618
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: you know, wanted the app wanted an apple and I

619
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: was eating an apple and I was like, oh god,

620
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: I'm going to give him an apple. I was like,

621
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm want to do it. I was like,

622
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to do it because I can because it's

623
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: not my child, it's their child, and they and they

624
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: give him apples and I so I like, cut it up.

625
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: I cut him like a piece of apple and I

626
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: gave it to him and he's just he's so happy

627
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: and he's having the whole thing in his mouth, and

628
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: I'm just like having a heart attack. It's so because

629
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: I was really proud of myself because I viewed me too.

630
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: Baby steps, baby steps. Ronnie's gonna be seven, So yeah,

631
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: she's she she just started solid. I wasn't gonna say

632
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: it on air, but now that's out there. Yeah, we've

633
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: gone from queam of wheat to oatmeal. It's a big,

634
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 1: big year. But so yeah, so so and then but having.

635
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 5: Boys, I will say a lot of boy moms out

636
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 5: there would agree, you do have to kind of let

637
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 5: him go and let him get hurt.

638
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: Allie was so good at that.

639
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 5: He was such a balance for me where he's like, babe,

640
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 5: they're boys, let him go. And I was like, okay,

641
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 5: I'll be stuck in my misery of being you know, fearful.

642
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 4: Also, I have this theory too, And it is not

643
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 4: a theory.

644
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 6: It's just what I've found if I'm too no, no, no,

645
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 6: don't do that's about things that aren't that dangerous.

646
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: You're gonna give them anxcity.

647
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 6: So psycho about like the street and the pool, and

648
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 6: my voice gets firm and I and I just I

649
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 6: have this thing with Buddy where it's like he now

650
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 6: knows this is serious, and this is also something where

651
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 6: it's like, hey, be careful jumping on that. You could

652
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 6: hurt yourself. Is it different than yes?

653
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 5: And you're not putting it on to them like that's

654
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 5: what I had to learn. I learned that in therapy.

655
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 5: I also learned that when Wilder captured with his bare

656
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 5: hands a tarantula that we brought home in my car,

657
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 5: and I have like pretty much a you're a good

658
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 5: case of arachnophobia.

659
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 4: And I've never seen anything like you're a ractophobia.

660
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: It's pretty bad.

661
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 5: And so I had a pet tarantula and Oliver looked

662
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 5: at me and I said, we're not bringing that thing home.

663
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 5: He's like, yes, we are. You're not going to crush

664
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 5: his dreams. He's already named it Harry. So we brought

665
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 5: it home and went to Petco and got you know,

666
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 5: container thing.

667
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: To put it in crickets to feed it.

668
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 5: We brought it home and I made sure that Locke

669
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 5: like basically could never come off.

670
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: And Allie looked at me and he said, this great thing.

671
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 5: He goes, don't transfer your you know, fear of spiders

672
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 5: onto the kids.

673
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: He's a little boy, like let him be. So then

674
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: we had a snake that ended up dying, which was

675
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: not our fault because I was being very good about it,

676
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: but it was quite sick and it was so I

677
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: took it to the snake the place and he's like, yeah,

678
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 1: it's not very well, Like, we'll give you another snake.

679
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: We got another, same snake, another snake, and then one

680
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 1: day I woke up and the snake was gone. It

681
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 1: was in Rider's room. Snake gone, and it got into

682
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: the house, it got out out. We have no idea

683
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: where Claudia, have you no idea that snake could be

684
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: living in the air ducks And you still don't know,

685
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: absolutely no idea. You were like, we have no idea?

686
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: Isn't it delayed response on my part? Yeah, like what

687
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: I like, I didn't realize what was going on. And

688
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: then oh, that's funny.

689
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, so bad.

690
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: You guys.

691
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 1: It's I have never found.

692
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 6: I never found like you're always constantly Probably is that

693
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 6: the kind of thing that like once every month pops

694
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 6: into your.

695
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: Head like yeah, of course, and I mean it's probably

696
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 1: I'm I'm assuming would be dead by now because you

697
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: to figure it out, dude or yeah. But I also

698
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: was like had to tell writerer. I was like, honey

699
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: that this one got sick too, and I had to

700
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: take it back because I didn't want to say like

701
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: he got out and could be in your room somewhere

702
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: and pop, and so I just and then every night

703
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: before I would go to bed, I'd be like, what

704
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: if the snake like you know, you're those crazy stories

705
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: where like it strangles the so so then I started, yeah,

706
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: so I put like snake try. It was the whole thing,

707
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: but we got through it, and for sure, he's twenty one.

708
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 4: I got through it.

709
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: We're gonna would just wait.

710
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 5: We had like get gos snakes, Ranchela's I don't know what, buddy,

711
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 5: and then it was you do that's right, that's right.

712
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 4: I'm like, it's one of my sexiest qualities.

713
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to.

714
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 4: Say you're both such good moms.

715
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 6: You guys be moms because there's not there's so many

716
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 6: like nuanced depths to the experience of motherhood and new

717
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 6: motherhood that like I'm only now feel like I'm processing

718
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 6: feeling and I've started just having such a love and respect,

719
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 6: especially for you guys in the moms in my life

720
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 6: that really do inspire me. And like nobody ever talks

721
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 6: about being a mom is like embracing your unique gifts

722
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 6: as a human being and just being that for your kids.

723
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 4: Like watching U Kate.

724
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 6: This last like Eastern Time, and like I just felt

725
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 6: like you're so in your You're such this like authentic

726
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 6: I was telling you this, but this like authentic place,

727
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 6: and watching your kids and this beautiful family that you've

728
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 6: built that's like messy and complicated and gorgeous and fun

729
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 6: and just like felt like everything was like clicked in

730
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 6: this really and just watching you be so authentically you

731
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 6: and then sharing that with your kids and creating magic

732
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 6: that's not like homogenized magic or like some idea of

733
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 6: motherhood that you feel like you need to like be

734
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 6: You're you, and your nice is that gift to your kids.

735
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 4: And it's the same with you, it's like either of

736
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 4: you have lost It's like my favorite thing to talk

737
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 4: about right now because I feel so in it with

738
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 4: the baby so little, but like, I.

739
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 6: Just love watching each of you be fucking yourself and

740
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 6: like that's like to be fucking yourself.

741
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny you're saying this because I was

742
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: just talking about this being you know, when you go

743
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: through these different stages of your kid's life, right, So

744
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: it's like you have you're in the sort of you know,

745
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: baby toddler years, and then you have the teen years,

746
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: and then you know, then you have the adulthood. And

747
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: the thing that I've noticed is that you want them.

748
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: You're this unique thing is really only seen by them

749
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: when they get older, because you want them to want

750
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: a different kind of like as much as they love you, Like,

751
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: it's actually a very human respect bonds for children to

752
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: be like, oh, that life looks interesting. Oh, but what

753
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: about those people over there that's an interesting life too,

754
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: Like it's actually good for them to look outside of

755
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: the family to experience something else. And sometimes they kind

756
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: of reject you because they want to go discover something new, right,

757
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: And that's a super normal response to like teenage years

758
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: and when they're growing and individuating. Then they get to

759
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: be twenty one. Like Rider, they get to be older

760
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: and they get to reflect and start their young adult

761
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: life of like what do I want to be? Who

762
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: do I And then they get to really see you.

763
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: And that's when you go like, oh, wait, I think

764
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: I did a good job. He likes me, you know,

765
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: he liked his childhood. True.

766
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 5: It's really interesting in the moment and just going on

767
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 5: that right, you're going off instinct. You know, you might

768
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 5: be nowadays there's so many podcasts and things and you

769
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 5: can learn, but really you're learning just like kids do

770
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 5: by watching. So you see your mom, friends, you know,

771
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 5: you see your family, people that had kids before you.

772
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: And you're like, ooh, I want to do it like that,

773
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: or oh I don't know if I would do that.

774
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 5: You know, you're kind of soaking it all in as

775
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 5: you go, but then you're thrown into the fire and

776
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 5: sometimes the plan that you think you know, the way

777
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 5: you're going to mother our parent goes, you know, completely

778
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 5: off the tracks due to who your kid is and

779
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 5: so adapting to kind of who your child is and

780
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 5: still being able to be kind of you know, who

781
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 5: you are. It's interesting and each kid is going to

782
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 5: be different and kind of challenge you in those different ways.

783
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 5: But on our end, I mean you're looking at us

784
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 5: right because you're in it right now, and you're like, wow, okay,

785
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 5: two people to look up to and kind of their

786
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 5: children and who they are, and we parents are not

787
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 5: very different.

788
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: Amazing, but we look back.

789
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 5: I mean, you're still in it obviously, Ronnie is still

790
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 5: you know, little, but I can look so fondly and

791
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 5: say talk about doing things instinctually and authentically. I mean

792
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 5: that is you to the core. You are like so

793
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 5: just naturally, like an incredible mom. And I'm going to

794
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 5: sing your praises right now because I think it's true.

795
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: But you are who you are.

796
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 5: You're an amazing boy mom because you are all about

797
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 5: adventure and all about kind of you know, creating joy,

798
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 5: which is who you are in your real life. Like

799
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 5: when you when Wyatt came home telling us about you.

800
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 5: The first moment it was this girl that I can't

801
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 5: describe it. I just want to be around her. Yeah,

802
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 5: and he he is somebody who's you know, kind of

803
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 5: more internal. I mean maybe obviously not with the family.

804
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: But he should talk about are good ten minutes just

805
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: to like make incredibly uncomfortable. Exactly why, Russell, he was

806
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: walking down the street with you. He's an avenger. Now

807
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: he has to be more open. This is true. He's

808
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: got to get ready. You have to get ready.

809
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 4: By the way, he wants to go on.

810
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: Oh good finally. Anyways, my point was he was like,

811
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: I want to be around her. She's magnetic.

812
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 5: And you pulled him in to do karrieok, like walking

813
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 5: down a street on a bar. Yeah, and we were like,

814
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 5: she was like, let's go, let's go to karaoke. He's like, no, spontaneous,

815
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 5: doesn't feel like wyat going in and doing like karaoke

816
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 5: in a bar.

817
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

818
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 5: But there he was, and he's like, I'm doing all

819
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 5: this because I wanted. She makes me want to do it, right,

820
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 5: So that's who you are, and that's who you are

821
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 5: for us, right, You're fun there.

822
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 1: You also said to me before we met you too,

823
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: was that he was like, she I know I know her,

824
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: like I know this person. This is familiar familiar to me.

825
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: And he was just like, you're gonna love her like

826
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: I remember him. When you're gonna you're gonna love.

827
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 4: Well now, Kate.

828
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 6: It's so funny because I feel so close to you now,

829
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 6: especially after the fire, and like that it is this

830
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 6: weird thing where you're like, wow, I would be really

831
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 6: good friends.

832
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 4: We would be great friends even if I wasn't, and

833
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 4: you too, Aaron. It's so fucking lucky to feel that.

834
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 6: I mean, it's so rare where I'm like wow, Like

835
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 6: there's times where I'm like, oh yeah, like wow, it's.

836
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: So bad great and all, it's like the best. I'm

837
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: so I'm so grateful that my brothers were so swart.

838
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 4: Loves fire right now.

839
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 6: But I also think that like it's I don't know,

840
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 6: there's so much about motherhood that I don't know. I

841
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 6: was so scared I didn't have My sister obviously doesn't

842
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 6: have kids, and I I didn't hadn't.

843
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 4: Been around babies ever almost real and bang where the.

844
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 6: Two little kids that I had been around, and they

845
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 6: made me so excited and watching you guys be mothers.

846
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 6: But also like it is so singular, it's your own

847
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 6: experience and I just wasn't prepared for how like healing

848
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 6: it is.

849
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,959
Speaker 4: And I get to kind of like this like reparenting

850
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 4: intentional that.

851
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 6: You also are like there is no right, like, there's

852
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 6: no doing it right. There's just this desire to love

853
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 6: my kids and not.

854
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 4: I don't know. I also don't think there's enough like

855
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 4: cultural narrative around.

856
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 6: And it's easy to say this when you're privileged and

857
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 6: you have access to childcare.

858
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 4: Which is a really big thing.

859
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 6: Like I wouldn't be able to be shooting this right

860
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 6: now if I didn't have like an amazing nanny Gaga

861
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 6: who was both you guys like helping me, like she

862
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 6: has my kids right now. I can go to work

863
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 6: and be with you guys and keep my meanness when

864
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 6: I need to tap into that.

865
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 4: Like, but nobody talks about how fucking fun it is,

866
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 4: like they're so fun.

867
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: To have kids. It's not. So here's what I'll say.

868
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 5: I look back in fondness, as I started to say before,

869
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 5: because I wasn't.

870
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: Having as much fun as you are. And I look

871
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: and I'm like, god, damn it, if I could go back, Well,

872
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: that's because of your anxiety, anxiety, sleep, anxiety.

873
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just you know, it was just a different time.

874
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 5: But I look back at you and I'm like, oh

875
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 5: my god, you have I wasn't so much fun that.

876
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 4: You was a baby because I was so nervous, like

877
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 4: am I doing it right?

878
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: Is this what to do?

879
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 6: And then even eating all that stuff and I'm like

880
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 6: can we die, Like let's have some fun exactly I was.

881
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: I was like I took writer, I had writer.

882
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,439
Speaker 5: I started your free spirit vibe. That transferred into being

883
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 5: a free spirit mom. Even though you were so strict,

884
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 5: very strict, and very very tough, you still had that

885
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 5: free spirit of like, let's go, let's travel. Like you

886
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 5: didn't stay super structured, you know what I mean. You

887
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 5: were like especially like.

888
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: You know, more like mayor yes, in the fact that

889
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: we would I would travel and take the kids everywhere.

890
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 1: I never went. I don't go anywhere without my kids. Yeah.

891
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: I still am sort of like that. I kind of yeah,

892
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: it's not.

893
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 4: It's not natural to want to. I mean, it's like

894
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 4: it's you. They're your cubs.

895
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 5: You.

896
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like what am I doing? Every time I'm

897
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: away everyone's in a while with with Danny, like when

898
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: we have a trip together, I feel like we need it.

899
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 1: Like I was like, oh wow, that feels really nice.

900
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: But when I'm not, after like three or four days,

901
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, what am I doing? All I want to

902
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: do is be with my kids. You know, what is

903
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: the most challenging thing for you as a parent If

904
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: you could I know there's a lot, but if you

905
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: could really take like like almost like in a relationship

906
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: where there's like a core issue, what is that core

907
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 1: thing for you as a as a mom? That is

908
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: the most challenging. For me.

909
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 6: It's like the constant just me feeling like it's my

910
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 6: job to manage my emotions and like be in the

911
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 6: like parenting myself along with my kids, which I know

912
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 6: is because it is like there's moments where you want

913
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 6: to I don't. I want to be in possession of

914
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 6: my emotions and I want them to not feel like

915
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 6: they're responsible for my feelings.

916
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 4: And so that is really hard and really challenging.

917
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 6: And that is actually when I've been to like Martyr,

918
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 6: I don't need help, I need to do it by myself.

919
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 6: That's when it starts to get harder and wear on me.

920
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 6: And that's something that I find challenging. But in the

921
00:49:51,080 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 6: challenge is such a fucking geese And it's so like

922
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 6: I love anything that that's making you grow, you know, I.

923
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: Love that answer.

924
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 4: I cannot about you.

925
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 1: I feel the same, So I totally agree.

926
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 5: I would say, I would say, you know, you're so

927
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 5: in the thick of it, so to even be able

928
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 5: to be aware of that is incredible. Again, another thing

929
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 5: that I think is amazing about you just in this

930
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 5: motherhood journey.

931
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: You're so present.

932
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 5: But I would say I battle a little bit of

933
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 5: not wanting to put my ans you know, like anxiety

934
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 5: or you know, that kind of stuff onto them. And

935
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 5: I find obviously Oliver was an incredible balance with that,

936
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 5: but I do it with humor. I try to be

937
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 5: aware of that kind of stuff.

938
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: But it is a challenge. Like with the boys, and

939
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: they do risky things.

940
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 5: So like obviously you know, they're downhill mountain bike and

941
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 5: going off of jumps, They're riding you know, motorcycle, dirt bikes, skiing,

942
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 5: I mean, they're fucking crazy skiers, all of that kind

943
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 5: of stuff, right, But also just in life, I want

944
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 5: them to be aware, you know, and so just you know,

945
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 5: trying to do that, I think without making them so nervous.

946
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 5: I want them to go off and do all of

947
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 5: those things and not hold them back. But I would

948
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 5: say that's my biggest job. Yeah, I agree with that too.

949
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 5: It's like I also feel like too. It's like the

950
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 5: more you trust them, the more they trust themselves.

951
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 1: And I always say, I trust you guys. It's usually

952
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: either mother nature or other people around them that you

953
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: don't trust, but I do. I don't know, I mean

954
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: other people. I don't see other people.

955
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, because, like you know, in therapy or whatever, I learned,

956
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,879
Speaker 5: as long as you have kind of instilled in them

957
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 5: the information and the safety that they need to know,

958
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 5: right if it's little kids crossing a street, if it's

959
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 5: the boys and they have on their helmets and they

960
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 5: know what to do and urgency blah blah blah, then

961
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 5: you gotta let them go.

962
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 1: It's just seems really like you controlling your fears exactly

963
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: being and yeah, yep, I love that too.

964
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 5: I relate to all or even just like say having

965
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 5: a girl too, Like with Rio, There'll be certain things

966
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 5: where I'm like, by your tongue, like just I'm not

967
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 5: want to fix things for them, the girl and like

968
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 5: well also just not even getting into the girl. That

969
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 5: could be a whole nother podcasts daughters, but not wanting

970
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 5: to fix something right or doing it like sometimes I

971
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 5: want to, you know, fix something because I see it

972
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 5: in a certain way, but she loves.

973
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: It in that way, and I'm like, just let her

974
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,439
Speaker 1: love it that way. It's beautiful. So I'm a little

975
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: more conscious.

976
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 5: I think of what's my feeling or opinion that I'm

977
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 5: going to put off on them, and trying to let

978
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 5: them just have their own and let it be, you

979
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 5: know not.

980
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: I asked the question, and then I'm trying to think

981
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: of what my corrior thing is. I don't have an answer,

982
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: but if I was to just kind of go off

983
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: the top of my head, I would say my core

984
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: challenge is a mother would be to not feel like

985
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: I have to take it all on. Like I have

986
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: a tendency to feel like I can do everything. I

987
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 1: can be the mom, I can be the dad. I

988
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: can organize, I can I can structure, I can be

989
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 1: their best friend. I could be there. I could be there,

990
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: you know, parent and disciplinarian. And it really hit me

991
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: most in COVID because I realized that I had this

992
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: like almost like type a mothering thing where it was

993
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: like I just have to do everything and then and

994
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: then the challenge is then not being upset when I

995
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 1: feel like I'm doing everything. It's like so it's like

996
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: I bring it on myself, right, and then I get

997
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: upset because I feel like I don't have the help

998
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: or the support, even though I have a great partner.

999
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: And it's my biggest challenge is to like actually just

1000
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: let sometimes it go go and like not be a perfect.

1001
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 4: Moment, not all that important all the time.

1002
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's okay if like you know, yes exactly,

1003
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: and it's okay if someone forgot to make Ronnie's lunch

1004
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,439
Speaker 1: and I forgot to do it and you know, someone else.

1005
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: It's like there's moments where I think, because I'm so like,

1006
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: I function at a certain kind of level which might

1007
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: not be normal.

1008
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 4: I've never seen anything like it.

1009
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: But it's like, okay, if like I say that, like

1010
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: it sounds like I'm some sort of up type person.

1011
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: Really I'm actually not. But but I do have this

1012
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: thing where I just always feel like I like I'm

1013
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: carrying everything and I I think that that's something I

1014
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: do to myself. I don't think that's something that other

1015
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: people are doing to me. And and and so it's

1016
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: like that's the thing you've learned to let that go,

1017
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: I would say, even just with Ronnie, oh yeah, not

1018
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: a little bit more oh much change so much in

1019
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: the last like five years for.

1020
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 4: Surely, Well, it's also a desire. It's like it's hard

1021
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 4: to feel like if you've got fifty things, the amount

1022
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 4: of stuff I watch you juggle.

1023
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 6: Kate between career and companies and family, and I mean

1024
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 6: it's crazy. I feel like I etch out my small

1025
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 6: little chunk and that's all I can handle because I

1026
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 6: because I don't know, I honestly don't know how you

1027
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 6: do it.

1028
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 4: But it's true.

1029
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 6: It's like I'm sure it feels like if one thing falls,

1030
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 6: then the whole thing will drop.

1031
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 4: And then realize I'm like, wait, no, this can.

1032
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: Be for that's the thing. It works, She's good at it,

1033
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: she knows how to do it.

1034
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,760
Speaker 5: It's just having actually the ability to kind of reflect

1035
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 5: a little and say, you know what, like maybe if

1036
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 5: I let that go, it's going to make it easier

1037
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 5: for me and everyone else around me.

1038
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: And like and like, I think I overcompensate with wanting

1039
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: to be there for the kids and do everything for

1040
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: the kids, just based on my own childhood, the fact

1041
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,959
Speaker 1: that you know, my situation with my father, the fact

1042
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: that Go Go was you know, worked a lot when

1043
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: we were kids, and wasn't there as much as sometimes

1044
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: I wanted her to be there, and and so so

1045
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 1: it's like I do all these things, but then I

1046
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 1: want to be everything for my kids and do everything.

1047
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 2: And sometimes I just need to like like not be

1048
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 2: kids they want to be, Like, it's okay right to

1049
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 2: like not go.

1050
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 4: Go.

1051
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 5: Look, we all take things from our childhood, which is

1052
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 5: a perfect example of I think why both you and

1053
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 5: Oliver are like that you do not want to be

1054
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 5: away from your kids. That is literally due to kind

1055
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 5: of part of your childhood. And there was amazing things

1056
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 5: about you childhood, and then there was more hard thing,

1057
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 5: harder things, but you kind of learn your parenting style

1058
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 5: and you're gonna take away things we're gonna you know,

1059
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 5: from our parents.

1060
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 6: Also, the balance that I'm finding is like impossible. It's

1061
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 6: like this elusive idea, Like I don't know what balance is.

1062
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 6: I'd love to meet the person that finds it. I

1063
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 6: find like momentary feelings of today we from between twelve

1064
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 6: and three, the balance struck.

1065
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: I love you guys. This has been so much fun.

1066
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: What is the Mother's day plan?

1067
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 6: Fly that I think I can fly back from Vancouver

1068
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 6: because I'm not I'm going to bring the kids and

1069
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 6: come back for like five days.

1070
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 4: Yes it, I'll be together. What are you guys doing?

1071
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: Are we gonna Well, we were gonna go to the desert.

1072
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: We were going to go and vacate together away, but everybody, yeah,

1073
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: were Weirdly, we're going to It's early summer in Europe,

1074
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: so we're leaving the kids. Oh my god.

1075
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 5: I feel like there was so much more we could discuss.

1076
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 5: We need like a part two Mother's Day moms and

1077
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 5: sister in laws.

1078
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: Well, hopefully we'll all be together. My favorite mothers in

1079
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 1: the world. I love you so much, the best time.

1080
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: Send pictures you know you and your little baby boys

1081
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: love you beautiful

1082
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 4: The kids fa yay, so bad